Welcome to Jets Audibles, Eric Allen, and as always, joined by my partner here Chad Pennyton, on our podcast, a weekly podcast. Okay, Chad, let's get right to it. Let's talk about Jets Eagles seventeen, the Green and White Taste defeat for the first time in two thousand and fifteen. What are your major takeaways from that game? Well, first, Eric, I think it's exactly what we talked about last week.
Going into the Jets Eagles game. You're facing an Eagles team who's obviously struggling offensively, struggling to find some continuity and trying to get a victory. So as the team playing against the Eagles, you don't want to breathe the life into them. And having four turnovers and a special teams touchdown certainly breede life into a team that is struggling. And so that's exactly what happened. That's what the Jets did. They breathe the license to a team, especially in that
first half. Uh, they give them life and and and the Eagles were professional enough to be able to capitalize on some of those opportunities, and that was just enough to come out with the victory. And that's exactly what happened. Everybody deals with injuries in the National Football League, you know that better than most. With both Chris Ivory and Eric Decker out of the line upon watch, did that impact Ryan Fitzpatrick, especially early in that ball game, when
the team failed to establish any kind of rhythm. Well that that's the key word, is rhythm. When you're talking about offensive football, you're looking for establishing rhythm. And sometimes rhythm doesn't necessarily mean points, but it does mean extended drives, it does mean eliminating three and out. It does mean stability within the game. And when you remove two players like Ivory and deck Are from the lineup, some of the rhythm and stability goes away and other players have
to establish that. And I think that the Jets really missed Eric Decker's presence in the passing game because even when he doesn't make flashy plays, he makes rhythm plays that allow an offense to stay on the field, allowing offense to stay ahead of the chains, which is really really important, and that was certainly something that the Jets was missing. The Jets were missing uh in the game
versus the Eagles. Knock on Wood will be back this Sunday when the Jets faced the Dolphins at Wembley Stadium in London, England. Will get to that here in a moment. What do you think about Devin Smith, the rookie from Ohio State. He gets in the lineup. I think he was targeted nine times either three receptions. I know fans are la money net turnover deep uh down in Eagles territory. One fits one up top to him in the corner there when he had a one on one cover. Well,
I think there were flashes of goodness there. There were flashes and signs that hey, this guy could be a really good player for us. I think that the Eagles came into the game knowing that this guy could run, that he was a deep thread in college. They were aware of that. That's why he saw some of the completions to him out on the sideline. With the fad staff routes and the comeback routes, they were successful. I think you also saw that he does have the ability
to penetrate the defense vertically. Um what you saw with the interception, you saw a quarterback trying to get a feel for how to throw to a receiver he's not used to. Number one and then you also saw a young receiver in that same instance not truly understand uh, what it takes to get open down the field in the NFL. It's one thing to outrun defensive backs in college, but in the NFL you typically don't just out run defensive by You have to gain position on them or
they will make you pay. And that's what you saw on the interception, Ryan Fitzpatrick learning that I've got to really push this ball down the field more to Devin Smith type of receiver, but then Devon Smith learning that yes, once I do get by the defender, I've got to now pushed back into him and established position the coast. Position is much more important than speed. Just how difficult is it for any quarterback in the National Football League?
Putting it up close to sixty times. We'll take Tom Brady out of the equation here, because sometimes the Pets aren't even interested in moving to football on the ground because they're so prolific in the passing game. But that being said, this Jets team down Fitzpatrick at the end of the afternoon fifty eight pass attempts, and everybody here inside the building has said, hey, listen, that's not our formula for success offensively, well, that's not in the formula
for for anybody success. And and even for the Patriots, they would tell you that they don't want to major in that category throwing the ball fifty eight times. Now, there have been game plans for the Patriots have played really good run fronts and things like that, and they've used a short passing game as an extension of the running game, and that's why they've been able to throw
up twofty times to be successful. But typically for any NFL team, throwing the ball fifty eight times it's not a formula for success, primarily because you can't take the risk of getting your quarterback hit. Anytime you drop back, you're taking your risk giving your quarterback hit and injured. The fifty eight times certainly increases that risk. So it was one of those situations where they had to I think the interesting thing about the game, even I thought
that the two minute drive before halftime was crucial. That was a great drive, some really good plays being made set the tone for the second half, and unfortunately the Jets weren't able to take advantage of some of the opportunities they had in the second half to get back uh, into the game and really make this a bold game, which it could have easily been. Yeah, great point there
about the tempo. And you know, we take Twitter questions every week and Josh asked, with the temple being flat in the first half against Philly, will chan gaily pick
up the speed against the questionable Dolphins defense? And I love that question because Chad a couple of weeks ago we were talking about that as well, that the Jets got off to a relatively slow start against the Browns, but they had that nice drive at the under the first half when they were in hurry up mode as well, and then we saw it happened last week against the Eagles. What do you think about possibly picking up the temple a little bit well, and all the ends on what
your offensive philosophy is. In tempo, there's different ways to look at tempo. Some people believe tempo with no huddle, uh, you know, getting to the line fast. Other people believe that tempo is just getting in and out the huddle, getting the play called efficiently, getting out to the line with second left in the play cards that really decipher what the defense is doing. And see if you can put yourself in a in a better position with a
better play call, whether it being audible or what have you. So, uh, it all depends. I think also, tempo really depends upon first and second down success. And the reason that you didn't see a lot of tempo in the first half was because there was no first down success. There. There wasn't a lot of rhythm plays that allow your offense to get into a tempo and to get into a rhythm where they can start to be successful. There were three and outs, there were negative plays on first down,
the running game or the passing game. So it was just a very difficult half for the Jet to get into a nice tempo and rhythm. You said it before, I think Decker is so key and so vital for this offense movie forward. Not saying that can't win without him in the lineup, obviously, but he makes them a different ball club. What do you think about Marshall's game? You know him, he's got unbelievably high standards, and Tide Bowls said, hey, listen, he didn't play to his standards,
he didn't play to our standards. Did you think Marshall was pressing a little bit? Well, I'm certainly uncharacteristic for him to make both of those plays goes to the turnovers or certainly on him. He would tell you the same thing. Um, it pushed the panic button a little bit, try to make more out of something that was not there.
With the lateral, the attempted lateral which was deemed to fumble. Uh. That reminded me of Bill Parcell's team commandments, and one of the quarterback team commandments would be that impulse decisions normally equal mistakes. That was certainly an impulse decision that turned into a huge mistake, especially in plus territory. It
was a big past completion for the Jets. That was the first down completion as well, and really get your your offense going and the crowd into it, and then something like that happens, and that was a player trying to do too much, take too much upon his shoulders. And then the second one just that's a routine catch for him that he makes and he didn't make it. So I'm sure he's disappointed in that as well. Jets fans obviously want to see Chris Ivory in the lineup.
He started off, uh, really hot this season in that first game against the Browns. He's been slowed by injuries. But you like balal Paul's game, didn't you? I did. I thought pal actually played it well and did some good things, uh in the passing game especially, he created us with space in the passing game, made a couple of good runs. I mean, when you look at his staff, they're not flashy, with a little over thirty yards rushing
in the little over forty yards receiving. But I thought there were some positive signs for him that he is an essential part to this offense and he's a great compliment to Chris Ivory. I think it was more of the situation and then the team performing well that you know, dictated his stat line and his statue sheet. But I thought that for what he was given in the optus, he was given the heat. He did make some really good plays for the joke. But my take on the
defense was they played winning football. But with that being set on the other side of the coin, I don't think they played to their standards. You can't put this one on the defense. When a special team's touchdown is allowed. Darren Sproles goals eighty nine yards. That was a key player early in the game. It makes a three point game at ten nothing game. Uh. And then Ryan Fitzpatrick's uh uh after Marshall's fumble, Actually that lateral, the fell lateral. Uh.
The Eagles cashed in with the short field. But by and large I thought they played winning football and they shut the door down on the Eagles in the second half. What was your take? They made some really good commondjustments. The one area I would be worried is the matchups with the linebackers and running back. Philadelphia had three chances and only took advantage of one of those with the running back coming out of the backfield on the wheel route where uh, you know, he uh he was able
to beat the linebacker. But there are other two other chances that could have easily been touchdown. You're right, Sprawls. Sprawls and Matthews still could be running. You're right about those two, and I'm gonna jump in right here. It's it's to say, okay, what can you change up? Because other teams obviously are gonna see that, and uh, you know, throughout the National Football League you see a lot of guys who were a quick, explosive backs. You try to
match them up against linebackers. What do the Jets have to do? To counter that, Well, there's two things. Number One, your linebackers have to be conscious of it, and uh, you have to make sure as a linebacker you don't get caught peeking into the backfield in man coverage, because then you lose sight of your running back and you're thinking he's just going to run a typical out route or flat route. Uh, and he does and he turns it up and that's that normally is what happens when
a linebacker gets caught peeking into the backfield. That's number one. So you really got to work on that technique and staying on top of that running back and not giving
giving the adds to him. Secondly, you've got to focus on and you've got to be able to mix up your coverage is to where uh you mix in some zone coverages to where when the teams are trying to call those routes on you, you're in the zone and you've got cornerback there waiting on him and a linebacker just covering the flat end zone and then that takes
away the wheel route as well. So it's a mixture of of being multiple on defense with your coverages and then when you do get the times that you are a man the man on the running backs, especially with an offset running back, you've really got to pay attention to that wheel route. And you were talking about adjustments before, Chad, what do you see from them as far as what they changed up over the second thirty, Well, they they
really honed in on the running game. They did a really good job at the first down production, making sure Billy didn't have uh good first down production. And they competed for every ball in the secondary calls and called the turnover uh you know, and and gave the Jets
a short field with that. And they just seem a little bit more aggressive, seemed more comfortable with their game planning and trying to attack this Philly offense because even though the Philly has been struggling, that offense is difficult and you've got to make sure that your communication lines are right and uh, that your first down and production is really good to keep them from getting into a rhythm and tempo, because once they get into a rhythm and tempo, uh, no one in the league can stop
them with their no huddle uh if you're playing behind the eight ball. So they did a good job of staying ahead of the change of the defense, staying aggressive and making those just slight adjustments to just stay aggressive in the second half. Okay, brother, you were meticulous in your preparation as a player. The Jets this week have
a unique, uh work week. You got practices here are in Florin Park Wednesday and Thursday, and then by the time Friday hits, and people might be listening this on Friday right now, the team will be in London and they'll have a workout at a local rugby club and then a Saturday walk through. How do you think that would impact you as you go about and get ready for the Dolphins. Well, you know, I had the opportunity to play in Tokyo in a preseason game, so I
do understand the travel. As far as a work week, I wouldn't understand that. My guests, my educated guests, would be that you would really want to hone in on these two practices as a player. Two far as the physicality of it, your first and second down on Wednesday, your third down on Thursday, hone in on those physically, getting your reps, maybe even staying after practice will be getting some extra reps physically, um to get those things
in your muscle memory. And really have that all that Heye put in the barn, so to speak, by the time you get on the plane. And then Friday and Saturday, to me, it would be completely mental days. You're gonna have to rely on your mental preparation with your red zone preparations, show the alreadist preparation, and then Saturday you can pull it all together and kind of review mentally. But as far as physically for Friday and Saturday, I
wouldn't think much of it. I would be trying to make sure I got used to the time schedule of that. My my internal clock was okay. So then when Sunday rolls around, I'm ready to play a football game. You're a busy guy. You always keep a loaded schedule. Would you be able to sleep on a plane if you were a player, if you just finished our practice Thursday, you had dinner on the plane and then you know, you gotta you know, six hours ahead. It's basically like
going to Seattle. Well, you would be able to sleep some, but it wouldn't be your normal sleep, so it would be more like, uh, you know, one and a half hour naps or something like that for the most part. And as far as your comfortability is concerned, and then you're gonna try to catch up on on Friday Saturday, ain't be ready to rock and roll on Sunday. I would imagine that's what I would try to do. Your thoughts on National Football League possibly having a full time
team in London, England? What do you think? I'm not a huge fan of it. I understand our international presence. I love our international presence. I think more and more people are growing to love the game of football. I kind of like the format as it is. I just don't know if if that would be you know, the right thing to do for the football, uh, for the NFL and for the game of football, but also for
the players. I think it Uh, you know, there could be a distinct advantage or disadvantaged one way or the other if you had a full time team um overseas. So I like the International series as it is. I think it really drums up a lot of support internationally and takes the game globally. And uh, it's it's a great series the way that it is. Okay, so Papa writes in a s cha does Miami have a home is their home field advantage negated by the fact that
both teams have to make the trip over there. So there's a couple of things that I want to add before you answer that question. Is the Jets have won their last two matchups down in South Florida. And you know this as a former player. You guys used to have a ton of support in South Florida. You still do to this day. And the other interesting thing is, I gotta imagine London, the size of that city, and how many New Yorkers travel and also live over there
and do business over there. This might be like a Jets home game. It could very possibly be like that, but it's still not going to be the same. I mean, you're you're playing in a neutral site. Uh technically for for both teams and for the players. You know, you may hear more Jets um crowd noise and you hear Dolphins crowd noise, but at the same time, you still the neutral site. It's a different arena. You're not playing in Miami, You're not playing in New York, and so
it's different. Now. The one thing that the Dolphins have with for them is that they played in London last year, so they have the routine. They won their last year and and so they understand the drill and the schedule, which will be a little bit different for the Jets. But um, you know, I think this is a big game for Miami. I think this is a team that's struggling, that sitting there at one and two trying to figure out,
you know, what's going on with our team. So I think they'll be ready to play because they understand how important it is for them. I like this question. Uh, this is from the office pool. I ask, and he split loyalty for you, what goes through your mind when the Jets and Dolphins are playing nowadays? Well, you know, I've always said that I have really appreciate both organizations.
I think both organizations served me well and treating me well, and I have great respect for both organizations as well as the people that I have men in both organizations. So, um, I just leave it right down the middle, to be
honest with you. And I know some people think that's wishy washy, but that's the truth because I I just had great experiences and and my time with the Jets was a great experience, and then when I went to the Dolphins, that was the right time to be able to move on and to experience something different and and
uh so I don't root for one or the other. Um, you know, when it comes to to that game, I really focus on the players that I played with and that I know that are still there and I watched them and and I root for them in their own individual performances. But you know, as far as team versus team, I mean, you know, I can't. Uh. I enjoyed playing
for both teams. What stands out to you about the British off first and Nick manguald, David Harris, guys who you saw his young pups and they're still going and they're still playing at high levels. Well, it's exciting to see young play. It is that I was exposed to as a veteran and hopefully you know, shed some knowledge and wisdom to them while I was around them. And
to see their longevity in the league. I think anytime you play with the player, you see a drafted come in when you're with the team, you want to see his longevity because that means that he's number one minute able to stay healthy, he's been able to stay productive, and they've become a really good professional football player. And that's always positive. And I love to see those stories. Yeah,
what are your early memories of Mangolds a center. I know I Fitzpatrick laws working with them, and that's about a common refrain from for all the quarterbacks have come up because you made the transition, I believe from a while you played with for a number of years and then you started working with Mangold. Well what First of all, when Nick was drafted, we had uh signed Trade Teague as a free agent from Buffalo, a really good center,
and Nick was drafted along with the British. All people fired up about the British Shaw coming in and being a staple of tackle UH and Nick was going to be the backup center. And then Trade t gets hurt and uh O t a s and is out for the year, and Nick has to go right in and from day one training camp he is the starting center. And I don't think I'll probably only been around two players as rookies on the offensive line that came in and it was relatively seamless. Number one would be Nick Mangold.
The second with be Jake Long when I played with him in Miami. Uh Nick, I mean, especially as a center to be able to come in as a rookie and do what he did, and uh, we had no issues from a protection standpoint. Our communication was solid from the beginning. And that's a testament to him with his two degrees and how he thinks in his brain power and then be able to match that with his physicality. Uh. Man, it was awesome to play with and because that's what
they're always worried about with Rickie Lyman, is it? Is it two over whelming? Is it's such a steep learning curve that you're gonna, you know, have a lot of ups and downs than with Nick Mango from Bay one? Uh. You know, the Jets have been a fortunate in my opinion, to go from Kevin Way to Nick Mango over this span of time. Wow, well what the luxury? Hey? I know you like Tanny Hill as a player. We saw some good things out of him last year. But up front,
the Dolphins continue to have problems blocking people. And then you put the Jets defensive line up there against them. How do you think they're gonna attack this Jets defense because they really haven't been trying to run the football that much at all? Is it to get Lamar Miller out in space? Like you talked about before, where the Eagles had some success moving the backs around and then
do you move the pocket? Is that what the Jets have to be anticipating because Chad on paper or what I've seen from the Dolphins so far this season, the Jets are gonna be able to get to Tanny Hall if he's sitting back in the pocket, you know. Typically you know, Bill Hayser came from Philadelphia, was under Kip Kelly for a year before he went to UH Miami, and he really liked what Chip Kelly and the Eagles
were doing with their running game. So I think that the running game will have some similarities, um, similar to the Eagles and what you're trying to do. Uh. He will also be able to then, you know, mix in his passing schemes. I think, you know, the Dolphins will have to focus on, first of all, with with Ryan
getting the ball out of his hand quickly. Um, you know, very be very judicious with his footwork and his timing and making sure that he's not having to hold the ball if they're having protection issues against the Jet because flying the ball needs to get out quick. The ball needs to get into the playmaker's hands fast and let them make plays in space. The longer you hold the ball against the Jets defensive line, the more uh it
plays into their hands. So that would be my game plan is to you know, look at the billion running games, see where they have some success in the running game the field. The Eagles did have some success on the edge, being able to run those stretch plays and then find those zone holes, uh to create some yards there. They also did have some success with their running backs against
linebackers and UH. And then also you know, be able to use a Jarvis Landry and and those type of players um uh to to make some hay in the in the passing day. Yeah, Jarvis Landry is a stud and I wonder who the Jets will match up with when you're looking at the Dolphins right now, because they're kind of feeling it seems like they're feeling their way out offensively. They got some new guys in there, whether it be Stills who came from New Orleans or Davonte
Parker who they drafted. Greg Jennings is there, so it still seems like they're kind of trying to figure it out offensively. On the other side of the ball. I know you haven't broken down a hundred and eighty minutes of Dolphins tape so are. But when you look at them defensively and especially at front seven, you would say, shouldn't they be playing better football? They got a lot of talent up front, specifically Nandamid can still Cameron Wake,
they got Verner as well. Uh, you know, I'm surprised by what's happening with them defensively right now. I am too, And I think, you know, it's a it's a player's issue. I would imagine that being able to get on the same page and basically just play better, you know, do what your coach to do, do your job, so to speak, and just play better as a unit and play better as a team. I think that's probably, you know, the
biggest thing. The expectations were high on the Dolphins, and sometimes when the expectations are high on your team, um, you forget the little things that create those expectations and make you a good team. It's the little things that count. It's the details that count. It's a small acrifices that you make player to player to make sure that the team as a whole is functioning correctly and winning football games.
And and that's what it's going to be about. And I think, you know, the Dolphins are probably you know, kind of circling the wagon so to speak this week, understanding that this is a big game for them, Um that they you know, just lost the division game and now they're going on the road playing their second division game, and they don't want to be oh and two and one and three to in the division and one and three after the first quarter of the season. That's too short. Yeah,
And obviously I was talking about Olivier Vernon. Uh So, last question, what do you want to see from fits this week as they come out Sunday at Wembley Stadium. What do you want to see from him commanding this offense? And hopefully the Jets have eighty seven back in the lineup. I think right now it sure looks like Chris Ivory is gonna be a goal so that will be a boost as well. Jets are dealing with the other other
injury upfront. Actually, Brian Winners has taken a place of Willie Colonel's down with the knee in Drie Well, I think I think as a veteran quarterback, your goal, um on the road this week is to uh make your routine plays that create stability and rhythm within your offense. Get the plays that are there, don't force the plays that aren't. It's similar, uh in facing the Dolphins, like when you're facing the Eagles, you don't want to breathe
the life into them. You want to make sure that if they're going to score and they're going to give themselves a chance to beat the Jets, you want to make the Dolphins earn every yard and every point that that they have because if you breathe life into them, they give them a little bit of momentum and it makes it more difficult. So as a quarterback, you you approach this game saying, I need to make rhythm plays.
I need to make plays that stabilize their offense. And when those opportunities are there to score touchdowns and get the bottom of playmakers and one on one situation, let's them make place. I do that, but I certainly don't want to force the issue with a post route down
the middle or or anything like that. Forcing and in the double coverage and really, you know, turning the tables on us as an offense only sixteen games and you playing a lot of them was my final deal is how big of a contest is this for the Jets, considering it is a divisional matchup, considering they started two and all, considering after this week they have a buy. You either go into that by three and one with the divisional road win or two and two after a
two and all start. It's a big game for the Jets. It really is, uh Number one. I think it's a it's a big game because you just want to get that nasty taste out of your mouth of a loss against the Eagles, and and really a loss that you feel like as a team, you called that the Eagles didn't beat you. You lost to them, um, because the opportunity that you gave away. So any time you come off of a loss like that, man, you just you
want to play the game. You're trying to get the Sunday as fast as you can to get that taste out of your mouth. With that being said, if they come back to and two, it's not the end of the world, um, so to speak. Although you'd like to be three and one with the one divisional win, there's no question about it, And you would like to create some separation. You would like to now be up there, um with with Buffalo and with New England um at
at three and one. You know where New England could Plustble be four oh three and one and and Buffalo could be three and one as well. You want to create some separation. You want to try to stay up there at the top of the pack and not be in the middle of the pack. Because these early wins, although it's not um the end of the world, they
really help out at the end of the season. They they do, and sometimes we forget about that, that these early winds and and they just kind to make things a little smoother once you move into the meat of the schedule. On the end of the schedule, well said Buddy, as usual. Well, I'm ready for my trip across the pond. Uh. We're gonna have live coverage all weekend, So if you and the boys are up early on any of those days Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you can check out some of
our programming on New York justt dot com. What do you think about that? No doubt, and have some fish and chips from me and I'll check you out on the program. Okay, okay, Buddy, let's talk to you next week. All right, Thanks Harry,