We are presented, but I went bet Betting is a team sport, but together it went bett. Eric Gallen here in Indianapolis at the NFL scouting combine with old friend Adam Kaplan of serious ex M. How are you brother? This is great? It is great to be together, the festivities under way. Is good to be back. I'm really grateful after what we've all been through in our country just to be back here because this is and I
love it. I was laughing. I was just doing radio before you and I got here, and I was saying, how I've been here nineteen years. I don't know any any streets, Seriously, I don't. I know, I've heard of Capital Avenue. I think this is where we are. I never I just know where I am. I know where to go. There's no where I can't get downtown. I know where everything is because it's looked the back of
my hand. And the great thing about being down here is theres only like four streets and you could walk everywhere. And as you know, the weather has been great this week. This has been the best weather. How many is this for you? I don't I don't want to be honest with you. It's been north of ten, it's probably yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's wonderful and it breaks my heart that it's gonna move. Whether where do you think it's going
next year? Nothing, I don't wanna say anything. It's definitely gonna happen where it's gonna move, but it's gonna be in l A at some point. But the league has open it up. Um. Several cities have bid, including in the Annapolis by the way. And let me just tell you this, I would yeah, Jerry Jones love to have it. There is not one NFL person that I respect that wants it to move. They all wanted here. That the scouts,
personal directors, general managers, coaches love it. It's so even the guys out last love it because they know it like the back of your head. That's it's just fantastic. Here. You got everything you want. And unfortunately we realities that the league it's gonna move at some point, and it can move as soon as next year. But it is what it is. We don't control that. I'm just glad that we're all back and it's, uh, it's so much fun being here. I gotta tell you, I didn't know
what I missed it as much as I did. I'm kind of surprised, I said, I I'm getting a little sentimental because I just know what's gonna move. But cover this business for twenty one years, are you just know? Um? You just know the way that the league is like the super Balls on a rotation. I gather that the draft was I'm all not remember when the draft would only be a massacre garden and the the announced it's going to move. Okay, great, but this one's all about football.
This is this is not this is different from from obviously being at the draft. Uh. I do miss it at MSG, though I got it. Used to go for many years. Was pretty cool. Yeah, and the forum over there nextpounded square garden and some of the things that I saw when Maurice Colourette was the last pick of the third round and erupted, the fans went out of their minds and um, my friends who were Jet fans who remember all enough to remember something craziness of the
Jets draft. But we fast forward to now, and I love my man. Joe Douglas is doing a fantastic job build this thing up. Look at you making the transition. I think yesterday I loved it. See him Yeah, yeah, it's great. What was your interaction, like, you know what, No, it's just basically I can almost fill the places. I know the way he thinks. I knew this is coming. He said it right before his the end of his media interview. Well, you know what, Robert and I are
a line. It's we're always gonna buid with the offensive defensive lines. That's his philosophy got for Baltimore. And by the way, when he went to Philly, Howey Roseman had the same one. So it's just it's just funny, nothing changes, and that's the way you build that. It always gives you a chance. If you build on the if you have depth on both lines and they're good players, you're halfway there, and now they have the quarterback. You just continue to build. It's uh, Joe knows how to do it.
You cannot build through the draft. I mean, you can't build through free to You gotta build through the draft and stuff went through free agency. That's that's what he's gonna do. I want to focus more on the draft, but let's talk free agency really quickly. Just the approach. What do the Jets have to get done? The legal tampering period, begins March. You're talking about free up March. You have financial flexibility a little bit under fifth million
under the salary cap. If you keep number four and number ten, then you've got a lot of ten eleven million dollars there. Knowing Joe as I do, he's not gonna spending where to the plus fifty million dollars past phase. Now they may extend a player too if he feels like that, it's times to do it, but he'll be smart about it. Look, do they do they need help? Yeah, Like we'll get into kind of work with the depth in the draft in a minute. But you're not gonna
build your roster through free agency. But the good thing is for some of their needs, uh we're talking about this off, there's some of their needs they can meet for a free agency, but freecy just set you up for the draft. But Howry Roseman, Joe's former boss, made a great point. You cannot think like, Okay, well we just fill this hole here in free agency. We don't need to get it to the draft. If you see an upgrade, you take it. And I know Joe well enough to know that he's not going to pass up
an upgrade for just because they have now quarterback. Okay, they're not drafting quarterback the first round. I think we know that, right. But if there, if there's an upgrade in the second round and be issue, you think you're good, you gotta take that. And that's just that's just the way it is. What's the sweet spot in terms of
financially free agency? I mean, obviously you want to fill and fill some needs, but I'm talking about value because if you're a player early, which the Jets us there there indeed, of course they got in early, and there Carl Lawson, and if he's healthy and I wasn't there the day he got hurt. He's just talking to the Jets. Apparently he was phenomenal before he got hurt. Thee Achilles injury is is it's tough to come back from. But he'll come back from it. So you get him back,
we'll see how he does. For free agency, it's there's one guy, Manuel Ogba, and then interest a bunch of journeymen and mid level of guys by now o boys. But on fortunes, he's really good. He's a he's he's a solid donned elite pass rusher, but he plays the run. He's just a good football player. But you're gonna get it. And the good thing about the Jets for this draft is, and you talked about the draft capital, Uh, this is a good year to need a d n if you
need one. Not a good year to need a quarterback. Thank goodness the Jets of Zack Wilson, because I'm telling you this is not a good year to need a quarterback. Not good for free agency, not good for the draft, and church if you look for high level guys, this is not your draft. What do you think about possibly resigning some of these guys in the house. Obviously Bragson Burials.
It's been a great stay out of nowhere. It broke out last year and that speaks to the development of the coaching staff, but also him taking advantage of his opportunities dynamic in the return game. Um, if he doesn't reach agreement with the Jets, is likely he's going to go out there and test the market well to see
what happens. I'm really focused on the safety position for the Jets too, because LaMarcus Joiner got yeah, I got hurt Week one last year, so we didn't get an opportunity to really see him play and then Marcus May obviously restricted free agent. May May Scott some interests out there, ye that you know, this is kind of what I hear from talking to other changes because they these a guy's very talented. They just want to see how it comes back from his injury. And this is where medical
is very important, as it is for the draft. By the way, this is the big part for folks out there. Medicals is super huge to get correct information. But that's uh, you know that that's what this is about. But um, yeah, Barrius is obviously a priority for them. You don't I know Joe do Joe Douglass well enough to know that you never walk away from talented players. Now you wanna you take him stupid money? And this guy's coming out of nowhere and having this crazy interesting year which you
know no one expected. Now could he Now if they've put this on tape, can he duplicate that? And as the staff gets to know these players, that's another part of free agency. I don't think fans understand when you have your own free agency yet. But you have a new staff, you know you you you don't have that much exposure to him. You have to learn them. And this is with Robert's staff out there back again. They use that that they say institutional knowledge. They have that tape.
They were around them, around these players, and now they kind of know. Okay, they give you know, they're around Joe Douglas. So they tell Joe rex Hogan, Joe Lieutenant, Okay, this is what we saw, this is what we were from around him. They have the practice and game tape, and then you know, they've got the reports and they have to make a decision on what the money should look like. Las Uh has been a good story. Yeah, man out of Connecticut, a real good run flogger. He's
been good inside the room. He's got an expiring contract, um and then level free agent. Yeah, so we'll's see what happens with him. Of course, and LDT, who the Jets traded for. There you go, he came. He played very well for the Jets. So what anyone happened? What you know? I'm sure Jet fans know that the great Humantics like an arch. He's a special person. One of the crazy scoops I had before that draft. Whatever year
it came out, I can't remember. I was talking to a good friend of mine then who was a scouting director. He said, Man, the only problem with him as he played Canadian football as college, we don't know what he can do with because the techniques are are different. Then I gotta I gotta give Andy Reid and I gotta guess John Dorsey with the GM or the Chiefs. Then they did a great job of scouting him and he's
been a great story. And you know, he took the year off obviously for medical reasons, to help doing some great work. And he's back and look he's you know, as long as he still wants to play. He's a little bit up there. But I'm certainly depth of the offensive line is Joe Douglas would tell you I Philly is probably the best. No. One deeper on the offensive on the Eagles are like eleven deep the offensive line. Joe knows that and he knows swim his days with Baltimore.
You gotta have an offensive line. It was eye opening when the Jets and the Eagles were practicing this song. So I was there for the two days. Yeah, you can see that. You could see what the Eagles were bringing on the day. How about this, I mean, you guys don't know because Joe, Joe will continue to dress the offensive line. The Eagles have a rugby player who's one of the top five left tackles in the league during my lot of I just met at the combine. I met the Super Bowl six eight, UM six eight
three eight. I know he's a monster Mons, but you know, you guys know you gotta get your left tackle healthy. He's got to get his weight down. Um, you got very Tucker is gonna be stud. The Joe has to just keep building. He needs a couple more guys that he needs at least two guys. And Connor McGovern played well last year at the center position. L DT could
be back. We'll have to see what happens that MOREA Moses is another guy he's yeah, okay, So let's get to the draft, number four, number ten overall, four picks in the top thirty eight. If you're a Jets fan, I know what I'm doing. Okay, go for it. Let's all Gardner. I'm not I'm turning the card in. Yeah, best corner for this draft. I don't care what Joe thinks of the corners he has. They they don't have anyone half as good as his kid. He's an absolute superstar, clean, great,
prospect at a University of Cincinnati tall run cover. His coverage numbers are absurd. You can't wait till ten to get him correct. No, he's going. It's funny you say that if you would ask me too much ago top twenty more. I did get more. I asked personnel people. I trust this gets an absolute superstar. I'm telling you you cannot no offense to the kids. Javelin, Gidry and all these guys that they know the Jets needed stud
Okay that the Jet you build with blueship players. Um. Fascinating What came out of Robert Salace of Mouth this week. He talked to the media virtually he's not here. Jets spent a lot of time with many of these prospects at Senior Bowl Mobile Alabama. But he was asked, hey, how can you help your young quarterback? He said, well, you all might be thinking offensively. I can help my
young quarterback by getting better defensibly. But did he elaborate how in terms of given more possessions if they can get off the field, well, Pastor shops, so you get if you can get but just playing overall better defense, well, also getting pet they need edge rushers that that to me is you know if you and I sat down three of us ethan and uh, we'll get Chris. And we can even make it the four of us. We'll get Chris. Okay, give me your give me your top,
give me your team needs. I'm I'm gonna see I I look at it getting a lead. I want a leaf prospects. The Jets don't have an elite corner and even close to it. You you want to and then you gotta get at the add rushure fact. Okay, you give me an intrushure in the corner. That's what I want. Defense. I get to tight end later. Yes, the Titan land later. Yeah. Wind bet is not live in New Jersey and they're bringing the excitement of win Las Vegas to online sports betting.
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will there? From edge rusher perspective at time, that's a good I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I I'm not sure on the edge rushers if they go as high. Um. But my my dream scenario for the j E T S Jets, Jets Jets. I want an edge. I want a corner. I want an edge. I want an offensive lineman, a high end offensive lineman in the first couple of rounds who could come in and play right away. I want, you know what, I want a second edge rusher. I want a rotation because they're running there,
running wide nine Uh. I think they are forty three front with the ends out. Yeah, you need you need, you need three or four guys. Um, We'll see what follow at d tackle if they bring him back linebacker. They need more guys. There's no question they need Jared Davis is up. Uh, they need more linebackers. Yeah, I mean, look, they've got a lot of work to do. Safety. As you mentioned, we don't know about Marcus May Ashton Davis is to stay on the field. He's had some injuries.
Talented super athlete. Yeah, I mean they've got a lot of work to do. Defense is gonna look a lot different if just starting with Lawson, if he be but again, well he'll be back, but you just don't know physically where he'll be, Like is he going to be sixty or not? You just don't know. And talking to players over the years, it generally takes the year year and a half to two years to come back fully from it.
Hutcheson in Michigan, we've been all you think he's gone after to whether it's one or two, I just don't think he is. He Okay, So let me put a two. Let me give you this scenario. If Hutchinson and Saucer there the rule of thumb as you take the addresser first. Now we could ask thirty two teams. They may have a different answer because I don't know what Joe thinks of that. But I'm a huge Sauce fan. But man,
Hutchinson is such a good football player. But by the way, buff of needs, I don't care what the Jets take owner you get it, you get you get a stud like Sauce Gardner. You're you're doing things because man if if Laws could come back acent of what he was, and because you got the Jets have how many picks do they have? Nine? Okay, they're in good shape there and got a ton of cast space. You could take the signal next level. Here's a good example. Okay, Philly Joe,
Um Joe came in for seventeen. I think with Philly and sixteen, Eagles were seven and nine. Doug Peterson's first year rosters, your staffage, they went, they didn't go hogwa They saw a ton of free ations. I've never they were ten for ten on the free agents are and uh and their draft was Carson Wentz before you know, before he tours a c L. He was fantastic in sixteen. I'm not saying that the Jets are gonna go from where they were to to get in the Super Bowl,
but to get to remember under seventeen game season. Now to get to seven, eight or nine wins, it's just three hit on three or four draft picks. You can play right away. Do you want free and you run because you got the court. I'll tell you what I want to talk. We talk about tack us for a little bit. Second half of the See, I was gonna get there at some point. You're gonna take it from I love that kid. He's got some jews, he's got some moxie, he's tough as hell. He's an athlete, he's
got an arm. He just had to take a little bit off his fastball. Because that's what Joe Flacco told me many years ago. He struggled the first couple of years. Yeah, because he could. He didn't. He had never been asked to do it. Yeah, And it took him a while to do it. And it just takes time. And you you gotta coach up, you know, guy, coach guys up. And you think he's gonna look like a different player
in here two. Yeah, because you're gonna build up what he did in the second half, and he's being coached hard. I know that that Kavanaugh still there, right, I think um not not. I think his contract expired Rob Calbaries Calgary right right, right, right right, And Calbaries did a great job by the way in Mobile, Alabama where they had the staff elevation opportunity for the Jets and UM and just you know, the coaching is good. I like the staff. Just you know, I know Jets Jet fans
are sick of being patient. But you know what, you've been patient, law enough. You got a good GM is really Sharper knows what he's doing. Just he's gonna build the right way it because once he gets it what it over like a five year period he goes because they always Joe will tell you. I think he talked about I know what the Scott Fitterer, the GM and the Pethers talking about this. So he's about three years out. This is Joe's third draft, right, yes, okay, um first
one second one right right right. Well that's another important point because you have to learn their schemes. But I saw start to this discussion you and are having about that what they need because every new staff alert they have to learn each other. And look at what these guys did together last year. You mentioned how hi you are on Zach Wilson, but you took Elijah Vera Tucker Joe to get him by and by the way, how
about my my guy more more even games. He's gonna be stunt now I did in the fourth Yeah, you know, I know, Joe what Joe? What's this? Joe said, what's his nickname? What's it? Hey? What? No? No know Michael Carter's nickname? What do you called me? Young? I didn't know that was the nickname? No, But I'd like to see them get size running back to compliment because I know why You're always gonna do that here, have to, Yeah,
you have to because Carter. Ye, he's explosive. Yeah, I gotta get him out in space, no doubt, no doubt about it. But need a tight end. That's the other thing. Man. That's and I like what you can see them address end free agency and the draft correct, well draft, perhaps if you don't dress it this year in the draft, you'll never do it. They're like eight guys, eight to ten guys. But I like what Joe said, and that's important. Note. I'm really glad he said this in his interview earlier
this week with the media. My job is to help our quarterback, and you do it by getting more past targets. You can't run the West Coast offense which they run without a stud tight end. You have to go get a tight end. You just have to Um Shoultz out there from Dell is gonna have a lot of uns, gonna be a big number. Yeah, he's multiple suit. His agent Steve Characters the tight end agent. He's got zach Ertz. He's got Dolcinch from U C. L A. He get
uh the tight end with the with the Browns. I used to be with the Falcon's his name escaping right now? You're not talking about jo No, no, no, he's but no the starting tight end who came from the Falcons um a year. Yeah, Austin Hooper the Niners, we're gonna actually sign and they pushed the number up and they signed with the Browns. Yeah. Yeah, Austin Hooper's a good player who who's more of it's been used more of
a blocker board than I thought he would be. But getting back to the Jets, they just they have a lot of work to do. They have not a lot of needs, there's no question about it. But the Joe's position this thing to do it the right way and the end it's all about the end game. What's this thing going to look like in a couple more years when there they should be finished this rebuild. And then because you got the quarterback, just building around him, as
Joe said, and he'll do that. He knows that. Jeff Fan knows that. Yeah, assention. Here two wins, four wins, we'll see if they're playing meaningful games next to Sumber. I think they should be in position to do that real quickly as we head out. I want to get your thoughts on the top of the second round. We focused on four and ten, but being in that spot at the top of the second round with those two
early picks, where might the depth fit the Jets? Quite There's some really good edge rushers in the second round. Just based on personal people I've spoken with, very deep ad dresser draft you pretty good. Corner good, solid safety, um somewhat top heavy, offensive line good, uh, interior good Where I think the Jets need some help um. George Fanpi was a great story. I didn't know he could do as well as he did, you know, being pushed into service thereous he there's a great story for college
basketball player. It was George Bason always get it wrong. With him. Yeah, but I remember talking and he wasn't just he just wasn't a coming off the bench. I mean George was putting up and remember remember he towards a c all some years ago with Seattle. You didn't know. But so yeah, I think that I think we do find the second round. Yeah you um, and then the question would be, um, what's the start of that? What's
the starting twenty two gonna look like? Because obviously, um Moore is going to be the starter, and coordinations will be back. He'll be a starter tight end. You don't have one offensive line, So what does the offensive line look like? Very Tucker starting a guard, right tackles open, left tackle is we know he's opening it up? Robert said that it's opened up between George right, and then who's the right tackle? The center is McGovern right, who's
got stay here? And then right right guard again l D. T is uh is up. Yeah. So you need adapt and you need to build it. So you need players. You need two or three more players. Okay, alright, so listen, two consecutive years Jets have addressed the offensive line. Could be says defense Dee, I would inten cornerback edge, but what I would do with Hutchinson shockolates at four. I'm going there. That's the tough one between him and Sauce. Man.
That's a tough because I'm a little bit higher than Saucer probably most people, just because how I've known about him since last fall, and everything I've heard is even he's he's gonna have a big week. He's gonna have a big week. And I'll tell you Ikey Kwano out of anc State just listen to his media availability. Wow, he's an impressive Yes, so sauces um the analytics and Saucer tremendous because the analytic numbers that's what helps him. Us. The tape matches up to the numbers, which is not
always the case here, you know. But we'll see how these guys work out. Enjoyed it man, Thank you. Win is not live in New Jersey and they're bringing the excitement of wind Las Vegas to online sports betting, getting on all your favorite teams, players, and sports from boostep parlays to live in game odds on every major sport.
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