Welcome to another edition of the Official Jet Podcast. Hope everyone's been enjoying the podcast profile series. I know we have. It's been a been a fun project throughout the off season, and to be able to share it is great. Now we're getting really into the thick of things training camp around the corner. We're gonna talk about some training camp items, maybe some position battles, and then we have Steve Wish
on the podcast. On a sad note, because Wish wrote this great article on NFL dot com detailing the life of Greg Knapp, who passed away at fifty eight years old, and of course was gonna have a prevalent role here with the Jets as an assistant coach. I think the New York Jets organization from the top down, they start
training camp with heavy hearts. If you read what people have said about Greg Knapp of late, it's amazing the connection he had with people, staffers, following, fellow coaches, the player. He loved teaching, and he also was a guy who had a smile on his face everyday, lived life with
a tremendous passion. And I think there's a lot to learn from a guy like Greg Knapp because he connected to people, and he did such a great job in the National Football League he was entering his twenty six season, but beyond that, he left such a legacy that a lot of people who came into his life they exited it that meeting or that introduction or those experiences better people. And I think you saw the impact he had on the current roster even in a short amount of time,
just based on players reactions on social media. I mean, Jack Wilson of course worked a lot with Greg Nap throughout the spring. He posted about him on Instagram, and I think you really saw the ripple effect that Greg Knapp had in the organization in a short amount of time. And we're gonna detail more with Steve Is, who I think brought up a great point. You don't stay in the in the NFL twenty five years without being really
good at what you do. And with that being said, you know, we'll get to that in a little bit. But training camp is around the corner, which is crazy to think about because it feels like yesterday we were in the studio talking about Robert Sala as the new head coach of the New York Jets, and now fast forward about six months and he's about to take the field as head coach of the Jets for the first
time in his first training camp. Yeah, and how about that, it's been a quick forty days since the Jets finish that final mini camp practice. In forty days, that's what's Alla said. I think at the end in mini camp, you take those forty days and see how you can better yourself individually. And now the Jets are gonna come
together collectively. And what Sale is looking forward to with this group, and I think this is just in his d n A. His makeup is how will they ultimately respond to adversity because the Jets are a young team, a young roster, and they're gonna go full throttle bull speed ahead. But the rule be bumps in the process. And also remember that this is the first training camp or and really the first preseason that have had three
preseason games. The cuts timeline in terms of when you have to reduce the amount of players on your rosster a little different this year. And the Jet will have two joint practices as it stands, one in Green Bay then hosting the Eagles here. And you know, there are a couple of different things I think we should get into but training camp, the pads come on next week.
Right now, it's like an acclamation period. When the players come back, they'll report, then they'll have similar to what was O t S and Mini camp in terms of style and shells and no pads, and then before you really ramp it up. And I'm curious, just to kick things off here, which Jet are you most excited to watch and training How about which new Jet are you most excited to see in training camp for the first time.
I would say Carl Lawson because we weren't able to watch these guys with the pads on, and he's a dynamic pass rusher, so I think you'll get a better sense of what he's able to bring to the table. And not only just because the pads are going to be on here in a few days, but also because Lawson he wasn't at all the offseason workouts that we were able to witness on the field, and he is a game changer potentially for this team, for this defense, and I think he's entering a system that suits him
quite well. And you're getting a guy's twenty six years old, and I think he's really relishing the opportunity with this team I'm in a similar vein as you are because we didn't see this player a whole lot in the spring, but because he was sidelines Corey Davis and Corey Davis another young ascending player, and Corey Davis and Tennessee. We've
documented before his success in this la Fleur offense. Now, what Matt Lafleur and what michaela flore will do probably a little different, but also a little similar as well. And I think that you saw what he could do last year in Tennessee where he was sixteen yards shive a thousand yards and working with a rookie quarterback and two other quarterbacks who have who haven't taken a snap in the NFL. I think Corey Davis will be a
stabilizing presence on the outside. And he's not on the physically unable to perform list, he's not on the non football injury list, which you would assume means that he's ready for activities. Yeah, you would imagine he would be in When we talk about laws and talk about Davis the Jets best positional group, you can make the strong argument that it is indeed the defensive line, but the
jets most improved positional group. On paper, I would say it's the wide receiver position because, yeah, Corey Davis a free agency Yeah, Keeling cole or versa dial uh player, was very productive with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And then Elijah More. We saw glimpses of what he is on the field out there in the spring, and I think More is going to be a very good performer for this team, not only as a rookie button of years to come.
And then don't forget about Jameson Crowder because he became an afterthought in the spring just because we didn't see him a lot, at least when we were out there on the field, and then he had the acclamation period. But Sala expects him to make plays in all the flour lead offense as well. Also, I think what excites a lot of Jets fans is each year the rookie class, and of course this rookie class headlined by Zack Wilson.
You mentioned Elijah More also the first time we'll see Elijah Vera Tucker in pads as a New York Jet. But is there a rookie whether it be the guys I mentioned, let's say X, including Wilson and More, not just excluding Wilson. Well, how about the storyline now that we're taping here on Monday, the Jets are reporting the training camp on Tuesday. The first practice will be on Wednesday. Uh, by the time many people listen to this podcast, the
Jets will already be on the practice field. But how about those practices in Green Bay the eighteenth and nineteenth, Because earlier today it sure seems like Aaron Rodgers is gonna be there for the Packers this year. And one guy that the rookie who's gonna be slinging it for the Jets here in training camp has been compared to a lot do not because he's gonna duplicate the success he's had, but just from a stature standpoint and his athleticism and the way he can bring it from all
different angles. Jack Wilson, Yeah, I also think that would be in a great experience for Zach Wilson after going up against just the Jets defense throughout the spring and then the first week or two of training camp. And also the Jett receiver is gonna see j R. Alexander, assuming he's healthy. That's a pretty good corner that the Packers have. But going back to my original question, is there a rookie you gotta go back? Is there a rookie that you're excited to see in pads that's not
Jack Wilson. Well Vera Tucker, you know, And obviously the Jets feel like they got first the three first round talents in the draft, and Joe Douglas loved this kid. He goes up nine spots in order to get him. And you know, for my money, clean this offensive line prospect McKay Beckton, who was dealing with some soreness. I guess during the spring he's been cleared to go. So we'll be able to see that left side of the
offensive line here early in training camp. And I just want to see Vera Tucker with the pads come on, because we just talked about it before. This is very good Jets defensive line. So let's see how he lines up early on in his career and then let's move on later in the draft class. I'll take two guys for it. Oh boy, I think you're about to take my guys. I'm taking it a linebacker or two. No,
you know, I'm gonna leave the linebackers to you. I'll go on the outside and take Jason Pinnoch out of Pittsburgh because I think he brings a physical presence to the game. He's a big guy, had very good ball production at Pittsburgh. Let's see how heat bears once the paths come on and you could see the cornerbacks get after a little bit more in terms of press coverage and getting their hands on receivers. Yeah, you know Pennock was gonna be I was thinking about going with Pinnock.
But I'm excited to see Jamie Sherwood and Hams of nozz real being in pads because those are two guys who were box safeties in college and now they're full time linebackers, and how are those guys going to translate to being full time linebackers. And this is step well, I know Mini camp was step one, but this is really step one because it's with pads on and you can really start to hit people and get after people
to simulate what will be the NFL for them. So I'm curious to see how they acclimate in this defense. And Jamie and Sherwood listening to Jeff all Brick speak, the defensive coordinator is talking about how how Jamie Sherwood seems to already be in control of the defense and at least up top, meaning he understands what his roles and responsibilities are. And I'm curious to see how that translate if it does. And that leads me to my next question. How about a veteran in training camp that
you that you're excited to see. And the reason why I'm bringing it up is, you know, I was thinking about the linebackers. First time we're seeing c J. Moseley and essentially two years or a year and a half, and I think that c J looking a little slimmer, and Quinn Williams said he looked a little slimmer too. I think that c. J. Mosley has something out to prove and he could potentially be a game changer for the Jets defense. There's no doubt about it, you know,
and we're going to keep our eye on Mosley. But let me go back a level. Um. Marcus May started camp on the n f I list. How about LaMarcus Joyner because the Jets like what he brings from a coverage perspective. He's a safety you can come down and play that nickel spot and he also in bass figure you can use. Marcus May maybe more as your box safety where LaMarcus kind of handles center field. But then in sub packages, you know he's a natural to come down and then play some man to man and that's
what the Jets like about him. And then that's a crowded offensive backfield, who's gonna separate themselves? How many running backs are the Jets going to keep about? Well? Michael p Ryan, the second year player out of Florida. I want to see how it all shakes out for him this summer. Yeah, I like the p Ryan. I like that you brought up p Ryan because last training camp I think you could make the argument Michael p Ryan had one of the best camps, not even among rookies, Like,
he had a very impressive camp and he got hurt. Yeah, I think it was a Green and White practice when he uh rolled his ankle, had an ankle sprain, and then he battled a couple of injuries throughout the season and or eight yard scamper when he did and I was against the first team defense as well, So I do think that I'm I'm very interested to see Michael
Peter Ryan. You mentioned Jamison Crowder. I want to see how quickly he can get on the same page with Zack Wilson, because Jamison Crowder is a quarterback friendly option. No matter where he's been, he's always been a quarterback friendly option because he's quicken and out of his breaks, he knows how to find holes in the defense, whether
that's man coverage or zone coverage. And I think that he could be a real nice addition to this offense that has Elijah Moore, Corey Davis, Keelan Cold, Denzel Mims. I'm also I mean, I mentioned I really should talk about Mims because he's another second year player who we didn't see training camp at all. He was hurt all of last training camp, So what does he look like when the pads come on, when he can be a little physical and on the defensive side of the ball.
There's two guys that I'm interested in. One of them is Sheldon Rankins because he's one of the guys that you saw flashes in New Orleans how good he could be. He had that one year when he had eight and a half sacks from the interior, which is very impressive. And in addition to that, I mean, I might be a sucker for the second year players. So how about Bryce Hall Bryce Hall with an offseason under his belt. And also remember last year he didn't participate in training camp.
He was recovering from the injury that ended his college career, and then he basically played half a year coming off the physically unable to perform list. How how improved can Bryce Hall be in his second year? I think those are the guys that I have my eye. If you're a cornerback here and you're on the Jets rosters, this is a land of opportunity. You look about and say, hey, there are some young guys who are talented here. There
are some young guys who are unproven. But if you're here and you're looking to make your way, I mean this is a team you want to be on. I mean you would say externally, it is a big question mark. There's no doubt about it. Not because there aren't guys who can't make plays or not good football players. It's just we haven't seen it, maybe for a long time in the NFL. Or you have a trio of rookies.
You're talking about Brandon Ancles from Kentucky. You're talking about MC two from Duke, You're talking about Jason Pinnock from Pittsburgh where they fit into the equation. Um So it's a land of opportunity on the outside and on the inside. JA haveon Guidry did a lot of good things for the Jets last season. I'm a big fan of his. But Michael Carter the second uh, he did some good things in the spring and he brings a lot into
injubles to the table that you like. And just going off of the three training camp battles to watch story on New York chet dot com. We talked about linebacker a little bit with the rookies. Also got a factor in Blake Cashman into the equation who's been battling injuries his first two years in the NFL, alongside C. J.
Mosley and Jared Davis. You just mentioned the corners and also backup quarterback right now, Like if you assume Zack Wilson's the guy at number two and he's the starting quarterback week one, right now, the roster is Jack Wilson, Mike White, and James Morgan. They all have combined zero NFL starts. So how do my White and James Morgan separate themselves from each other if they're in fact the
ones competing for the backup spot. You know, is that the preseason which James Morgan, like Mike White, is playing in preseason game. James Morgan is not all the rookies last year who did not play. I think is James Morgan, Cameron Clark off the top of my head, their prese and games will be their first NFL action. Yeah, listen, this is James Morgan's first professional season because you think about last spring, these guys weren't getting any reps on
the field. So he gets drafted in the fourth round, gets no reps in the spring, and the first time he's out there on the field is training camp, and at that point you're trying to get your starter, those top reps. So yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see if Joe Douglas makes a move at the quarterback position, meaning does he bring in a veteran, how early does he do it or to your point, does Joe Douglas,
Robert Sala, MICHAELA. Fleur take a look at how things progress here early in camp before they make that kind of play. And you started, you started getting me thinking about the wide receivers when you talked about Crowder and more. I don't know if people are looking at this the wrong way. ME mean that, Hey, it's either Prouder or more. I think sometimes you're gonna put your best personnel packages on the field, and for the Jets that could mean
a lot of packages with Jameson Prouder and Elijah Moore. Yeah, I think it's a great point, especially when you consider what Robert Sale and Michael Ford we're talking about that Elijah Moore has that inside outside versatility, especially in this offense when you consider the amount of lateral movement that goes on, whether that's a Jet SUEEP or just to use that as an example, Elijah Moore has that ability
and he has the speed to do it. And how about the motions we're gonna be watching from this offense too, That's gonna be different and we've seen that in San Francisco to last four years. You go back to Atlanta and stuff like that used to a lot of priests that motion. I think the forty Niners led the league in pre snap motion last season. So that's just something to keep an eye on. Honorable mention. We I mean
the kickers, Sam picking Chris Negar. We'll see what happens in camp I mean, that's like you're quintessential training camp battle where it's one of you know, it's mono imano, two people fighting for one job. Um, And you know, I think before we hear from Steve Weish, I just want to get your take. Is there any other storylines that you really that you have your eye on. Well, it's the three preseason games, It's the it's the two
joint practices. You know you're gonna be in Green Bay and then the next week you come back after playing the Packers on a Saturday night and all of a sudden, you're in there with the Eagles. And I think that's gonna be very valuable for sale and the coaching staff and Joe Douglas and the personnel staff because they'body able to watch their players compete against. Yes, different personnel, but
also different systems. And I think when you're talking about working in a rookie quarterback, uh it, this is all about youth. To Randy Lang about a New Yorks dot Com the other day, one of his great inside the Numbers pieces that this is the youngest Jets roster at this point, and then it has been in two decades. So the average age of a Jet player out there in training camp is just a little bit over twenty five. And then take that further, the longest tenure players on
this team. Do you know who they are? I do, Marcus May and Thomas Hennessy and they're both entering year five. This is all about a youth movement, but the talent has definitely got better here on the field. Now it's we're going to be fun watching these guys. Yeah, and early on you're going over a lot of review because you did installations in the spring, right, But then we're gonna see these guys compete, not only against the Giants.
I love the fact that you're getting in there those joint sessions with the Packers and then the Giants, I mean the Packers and then the Eagles, and then you had that long break, which is interesting this. Yeah, I think that's I think probably a lot of teams will like that where they have a little bit of time before they can start preparing for week one, And for the Jets, that will be when they prepare to travel down to North Carolina to take on the Panthers. And
that's that's a training camp preview right there. Now. It's here from Steve White, Steve, thanks so much for joining us here on the Official Jets podcast. You know, e A and I just broke down training camp and we said that the Jets are starting training camp with a
heavy heart with the passing of Greg Nap. And you wrote a great article on NFL dot com about Nap and from your time around Nap and hearing others speak of him, what kind of person and what kind of effect did Greg Nap have in the different places that he coached. Yeah, I appreciate you guys have me on especially to talk about this. Look I make Greg back in oh five when I covered the Falcons. He was the offensive needed there when Jim Moore was the head coach.
Um And and the one thing about Greg that has carried on because you've been with so many teams, you know, Atlanta, Oakland, Seattle, Denver, the Jets, Houston, is that he was a real positive guy, very upbeat guy like players. You know, you saw some a lot of player reaction, you know, from Matt Ryan, from Todd Clure, a lot of offensive lineman from Matt Shaw. Um. Just a very positive guy like no matter what was going on, lost the ballgame or he makes a you know,
questionable series of calls or whatever. He was just always that guy saying, hey, look, we're gonna get to the next play, We're gonna we're gonna make this happen. It was constantly educating and you know, I'm not the only media member who could say this, but you know that. But always take time to spend with us too. You know.
I would ask him like, hey, look, I know you're running this West Coast scheme, but I saw when you got in this situation, you guys did this or this defense responded like this, and you countered with that, and he would take the time to really educate um. And you know, I think a lot of the guys in
the media really appreciated that. But more than anything, you know, Napper was just just a super positive guy, Like he would have been so good for this Jets locker room with so many young players, you know, especially Zach Wilson, and everything is gonna be thrown at him to have that positive voice in his ear, uh no matter what I mean, just a real encouraging guy. And that's why what happened with his death, his tragedy is just just
so painstaking. How rare is that kind of guy in this business sometimes it can be so cut throat from a player perspective, from a coaching perspective, for even from a media perspective. But everybody who's talked about Greg recently, he's just raved about that positivity, that presence that he was always uplifting people. Yeah, look, I mean a lot of you know, it's rare. And I wrote this in this column because and you guys know this, most coaches
you talked about it being cut throat. At some point, these coaches are going to speak negatively about a player or speak negatively about a coaching staff or coaches on the staff he'd been on here or there, because they're trying to climb up that rung right there, trying to get up to be that coordinator, to be that head coach. Greg Napp was always very comfortable, um being an act
or being a quarterback coach, being a passing game coordinator. Um. He he didn't you know, necessarily want to use others two benefit himself. You know, he was gonna where he's gonna get, buying his own merit and his own connection. So it was just a real positive having a guy like him, you know around. You know again, like dealing even with the media. You know, you would see you know, on the field before games, everybody running up to Hi Napper,
Hey Napper, Hey Napper. You know, and that's really important in for a locker room and just relationships to have somebody who's not trying to backstab another coach so he can move up you know, the food chain or things like that. And again, I think Napper just always being secure and who he was and what he was was vastly important to any coaching staff in any locker room.
You know, you mentioned in your previous answer about the impact you thought Greg Knapp would have in this locker room the youngest Jets team in twenty years in July. You know what kind of coach we often talk about the person Greg Napple was. What about the type of coach and influence he had. Well, he he'd apair with Michael for right, but they come from the same background in terms of the offense that they want to run West Coast principles, um, you know, with a lot of
the schematic tenants. He stretched his own run scheme things like that, So I think you know what he would be able to do. He was always the voice in the ear like even if somebody else's offensive coordinator, he tended to be the voice relaying that call into the quarterbacks ear. So, let's say the quarterback just made a terrible read on the play before he made come in the call, say hey, don't worry about it, just get onto the next play. We'll we'll fix it, you know,
the next time we have an opportunity. And so I think with this locker room again, because he was so jovial. You know, Nap was a real tall guy about six war six five, had this kind of you know, old school uh John Travolta, slicked back hair, um, you know. And and he just would have been the type of guy if you know, running back Mrs Block or has itard just just struggles to a practice or something, He's gonna say some things to make that player not think
about what has happened. Or if there's a dispute in in a coaching room, you know, he'll listen, listen and all of a sudden say, okay, hey, look you know what this is on me whatever, He'll he'll take the blame. He would shoulder on the blame or something for something that happened with someone else, just to kind of keep it moving because in this in this sport, in this profession, if you linger for too long on anything, it's gonna come back and have a negative effect. And he just
was not that guy. And I just think, you know, the young locker room to be able to have the ability to teach, but to also have guys looking forward. Um, you know, look, he's not Ted Lasso positive and he and have all the quirky colloquialisms, but he had that type of effect or a guy he's like, you know what he's saying, it's kind of it's kind of right, and I kind of want to be part of that.
But he was a fun guy. You said, he's not necessarily like Ted Lasso, but speak to the humor he brought to the table and just his enthusiasm for life. Because you had a good anecdote following in Atlanta Falcons practice where him and Jim Mora used to take off for the hills. Yeah. Look there's a big hill to facility and they would run it every day and you know, look, last time I saw a nap, you needed to hit it.
Hit a little bit harder. He put on a few lbs over the past couple of years, but but look, I mean he was he was a dry witted guy. You know, he wasn't the dude who was always out there. You know, it was it was all about timeless. You know, a good good comic, a good comedian strikes hot when he when he has a perfect time knowing went to deliver something a certain way. And and that was Greg Um. He just would not let a guy. I'm sure you
talked to any of the quarterbacks he dealt with him. Look, he really helped out players like Matt job Shop back in the day. You know, when he was in Houston, he was one of the first guys that have consistent forty three honey yard passing seasons with a lot of things he did. And and Nap was his o. C um. You know, he had Michael Vick when I was here, and looking Vick was tough to handle back then. I mean, you know, Michael Vick would admit he wouldn't you know,
he would study the playbook very much. And Nap and those guys knew it, but they would still work with him in a way instead of saying, you know, hey, look we're gonna pound on you for not doing your homework, like okay, let's make sure we can improvise and do the things that we need to do because we know where somethings you're lacking here there. But he always kept it in a way where it never got bogged down mentally, stress wise, things like that. And you know over now
we're playing seventeen games. You talked about the Jets having a young team or rookie quarterback. That's gonna be important. That's where michaela Floor and all these guys are really gonna have to step in and just really really be positive and encouraging to Zack Wilson, you know, because there will be mistakes. May just listen to you talk Steve makes me think about Nap taking this position because that speaks to everything who he is, right because Michael fleur
It hasn't been in a league that long. He's in his early thirties. But Napper said, Hey, I'm fifty seven, fifty eight, I've worked with a lot of Pro Bowl quarterbacks. I've been a coordinator in this league, and I'd be more than happy to be the passing game uh specialist here. Oh yeah, and look, you know, and people like, what's the passing game specialists? I mean this is the guy who breaks down all the situational stuff, does the special projects. Okay,
this is what it's defensive personnel. This is what they like to do. This what the coordinator does. They saw this quarterback fights on stuff. Then he works with the coordinator to come up with schemes in the passing game, including protections. Um that that really works. I mean again, that experience and to be able to have that voice. Michael Forest never called plays right, So to be able to have that voice to get into quarterbacks yere to
help guide them through situations you can. Timing is everything. When you've got that thirty five seconds on that clock to get that play in before and then at fifteen seconds that that that monitor in the helmet goes off. You know, that is a case that is a gift. That is not an easy thing to do. And Nap was a guy who could really help the floor get it, helps Zach Wilson get it. Um everything that goes on
without meddling. Again, he is not a guy who's not going to step in when he's not asked unless it's something that there's a crisis management type of situation. So again, there's there's so many things that he brought to the table and would have brought to the table for the Jets. It's just absolutely crushing. Um, you know what happened to him that he's no longer with us. And and trust me,
there's so many people on the league. We're gonna be out of service, uh this upcoming weekend and and really gonna feel Greg Knapp's presence um every day and especially every Sunday and Monday night this season. Steve, one last question from me. What do you think it says about Greg that he was able to make such a large impact just based on the reaction from social media, just from Jets players, and he was hired what in January
and now it's the wies. I mean, he he was easy, man, he was just you know, there's some coaches, you know, they come in their heads on fire all the time and they've got him what presence is me being big, you know, and and this type of stuff, and that's kind of like, hey, you know, I'm here, I'm here if you need me. All right, guys, let's get in
the room. Let's go over this stuff. And you know, he's not someone who would put that add and added burden on pressure these guys have so much to do with this is learned their playbooks and a million other obligations they have to do. And that was just the kind of guy. You know, we all had that buddy, you know in high school or college who just comes in. You're like, thank god he's here, because I'm tired listening to this guy. I really don't want to be in
this environment right now. I can sneak out of the room with this dude. We can go get a soda, beer or whatever. Um and and just unwined for a little bit. And and and Nap was that Guy's why, that's why the you know the example I gave um in the column I wrote, you know him and Jim more like Naper, let's hit it. I mean, those two our practices were a grind, let's go round this hill just to kind of get the rest of everything out of us before we have to go back in these meetings,
Nap was the guy who Mora sought out. I mean, they were best friends, but just to say, okay, let's let's go decompress. And and I think that's something Nap really brought to the players. Um in such a short time with the Jets. Well, we are all praying for his wife, his three daughters, his brother, his extended NFL family.
With all that being said, I hate even bring it back to football, but what now I was on the horizon for Robert sala who has already shown himself to be a tremendous leader throughout his coaching tnure in the National Football League. We talked about Mike la Fleur before, and they forementioned Zack Wilson because Wilson in his short time was very connected to Greg Naw. Yeah, I mean,
look that that's the interesting thing. That's a conversation that's gonna need to be had with these young players because think about you know, when you were twenty twenty four, we didn't know too many people maybe other than grandparents, thought that who died? Right, this is someone this is like their first real life workplace, you know, hurdle to overcome and and and it's I mean I remember my first job in Richmond, Virginia, dealing with guys getting divorces
and people adopting kids like yo. This is completely different from the structure I've grown up around. And so this is where Robert Salah, who really has a lot of naps type of personality traits quiet easy, but handles business.
That's where he's gonna have to really get a grip on things, and and Lafleur is gonna have to stuff been and they're just gonna have to really grind football wise, but also have that ear in case, you know, someone wants to talk about Greg or talk about a situation where they lose a loved one, you know, something like this. When you talk to players from forty Niners who dealt with Sala, I mean that was a huge, huge thing
about him. I mean he knew everything about every guy because he would listen and he would talk to them about it. And that's where he just really has to kind of step in at the beginning of training camp and in address thisss with the team and say, look, if you guys are gonna talk about I'm here, Mike's here. You know, our player development people are are over here.
Just just anything um that you need. But you know, we're also here to win football games, and so you know they've they've got to keep you know, the eye on the prize. But at the same time, again have that sympathetic shoulder because he's your young men who are gonna need it for a lot of things going on in their lives. Awesome, Steve, thank you so much for the time on the Official Jets podcast. Were really appreciate it. Thank you guys, point as an Unsen and Bet
