LISTEN | Jets Free Agency Update - Ep. 6 (3/24)

couple of players as well. He and I are going to break down the state of the Jets secondary, who's still left, who's on the team, and then we'll finish things up with a little bit of a dream scenario here. Pro Football Focus tweeted, who would be your PFF dream secondary? E A and I are gonna both give our answers, but e A, First things first, Welcome to another week of working from home. How how is your weekend? Krediens?

The weekend was terrific. Was able to it outside with the little one and my pop, but listen made sure that I was keeping safe distance away from other folks. But it was beautiful on Saturday and actually on Sunday it was nice as well, so good out for some runs again, Uh, keeping my distance away from folks. But sunshine was great today. Unfortunately, I'm sure the weather is similar in Hoboken. Man. It is rainy, it is cold,

it is gloomy. But we're still gonna bring you the Jets news, the NFL news, and we're gonna brighten up your day. Yeah. I feel like if this work from home scenario happened when the weather was like it is today all the time, I feel like we'd be a lot more. It would be a totally different ballgame. Right now, it's five fourteen pm on Monday, and it is raining, it is gray. This is classic New York winter weather. This is not this is not what I was hoping for.

But that okay, let's talk about um. Actually I was about to say, let's talk about some Pierre to Zier news, but I'm looking on Twitter right now and breaking news from Ian Rappaport and Tom Pellicero, both of them. They say that it was reported that the Jets have agreed to terms on a one year extension with outside linebacker Jordan Jenkins. Good news. I mean, obviously he's got a

complete his physical and formally signed a contract. But those guys from NFL network very busy during this time year at the time of year as his ESPN's Adam Schefter and so many other insiders who I don't think get much sleep during this time. But Jordan Jenkins a great locker room presence, a guy who came out of Georgia, and I think it continues to develop. And last year he at eight sacks screens. He did not play sixteen games.

I think if he had played sixteen games, maybe four, Greg William him he would have got double digit sacks for the first time in his career. Uh. Tough tenaceous guy. Remember he's playing an outside linebacker positions, so again has to turn things inside. And the Jets did play the run as well as anybody in the National Football League last year. Number two overall. Yeah, I think Jordan Jenkins is one of those classic players where he gets better each year that he's in the league, and such as

the case so far. He had seven sacks, which led the team in eighteen than he had eight sacks last season for and uh that was a career high and a team high in two thousand nineteen. So it's a good move by the Jets. And we know that Joe Douglas wants to add to corner and he wants to add to edge on defense. He alluded to that in Indianapolis. And when you look at the moves, not only with Jordan Jenkins, you know, a minute ago or however long ago it was reported. Then you look at what happened

over the weekend. The Jets reportedly resigned or reportedly signed, not resigned, rather he aired his ear. They re signed Arthur Millette, and then they reportedly signed Marquis Christians. So the Jets and Joe Douglas are doing a lot in the secondary right now. You have to imagine that edges coming up next to whether that be through free agency or through the draft, that I actually don't think that Joe Douglas is done in the secondary, and I think I don't think he's done at all in free agency

at all. I feel like he's just getting the ball rolling here multiple tiers, and you know, and Joe Douglas is, you know, systematic in this approach. The Jets are not gonna be rushed and anything they're doing, they're gonna make moves that are smart for their organization. Not only in two thousand twenty, but long term, because all these deals

have cap ramifications. You mentioned to Sere interesting Greens because he played last couple of seasons with Indianapolis Colts and prior to Joe Douglas signing Rex Hogan on as assistant GM and the Jets, Hogan was with the Colts in two thousand, seventeen and eighteen. Here's a guy who's a bigger cornerback six one. Some I have listed him as as big as six too, but we'll go at six one.

Last year, he led the Colts with the eleven past defenses, the two interceptions and five past defenses in one game against the Carolina Panthers in weeks sixteen, thirty six career starts, five interceptions, and thirty four past defenses. And I know a lot of people probably thinking, well, why the Colts get rid of them? Well, we're not there. The other thing that the factor into the equation is they just made a twenty five million dollar financial commitment commitment to

Philip Rivers. So what do you think about the move of bringing in Pierre to Zer. I like it because you said we're gonna talk about the cornerback position. Um. After the Jets make those pair of moves releases. Remember Tremay Johnson and Daryl Roberts were opening day starters in two thousand nineteen, Greens. So they come to an agreement with Brian Pool and they made an official on Saturday after agreeing to terms. And that's such a critical position,

the nickel position. We talked about that, but they needed help on the boundary. Now you bring in a guy who's got experience. Um, he's gonna turn thirty in September, former teammate of Nate Harriston actually in Indianapolis, and listen, if they were going out and playing tomorrow and they're not. Maybe your two corners are a couple long guys, and to see her in that blessed bless Austin. But Arthur Mullett gives you um depth and versatility behind them as well. So, UM,

I think it's smart move, Greens. Uh, you know, because right now you're bringing in a guy who he started for a number of years in the National Football League and he's quite capable of filling out a position outside of numbers. Yeah, I feel like I feel like I very much like the way that the roster is shaping up. Even though it feels like they're not a ton of moves, there's still like a good handful. But I like the way. I like the trajectory that this roster is heading on

right now. And when you look at the secondary, let's just talk quickly about who the Jets added at the safety spot. Marquis Christian, who you would assume is going to back up Marcus May and Jamal Adams one and number two be a special team's core guy for brand boyer Well. And he's only twenty five years old. So that's what I'm looking at in free agency. And he did some good things with the Rams Rams last year.

In fact, former Rams defensive coordinator With Phillips said they used them as a hybrid linebacker at times and sub packages. So you bring in a guy like that. He's got some coverage abilities at times. Last year in l A he was asked to play one on one coverage taken on tight ends. Now the Jets are set at that safety position from a starting perspective with Jamal Adams and Marcus May. We know that, but we were talking when we did that, when we did the roster reset on

the podcast. Is the depth behind him, who were the guys potentially going to be there while they get Christian into the mix, and you mentioned his special teams fraud with uh twelve special teams to pass four years in l A. Yeah, and just to give a quick reset. So because it feels like there's so many moves that go on that it's almost like you need to take the time and figure out what actually happened and how

the roster shapes up. And right now in the second area for the Jets, of course you have Jamal Adams and Marcus May and then to your point, if you were to play tomorrow, it would probably be Pierre to Zier, Blessed Austin and then Arthur Mallets in the mix, Nate Harrison, Kyran Brown still on the roster. So the Jets still have work to do in the secondary, but still getting off on the right foot. And I think that the Pierre de Zier move is a good one for the

Jets and we'll see obviously how it plays out. But he was great, and yeah, I got the sense that he was banged up last year which hindered his play. And you know, if Rex Hogan, who was there in Indianapolis when Pierre Desier was there, he gives the stamp of approval and yeah, I feel like I feel like

it was a good move when it's all said and done. Yeah, you needed you needed a guy with more veteran experience out there, right because we're talking about blasts and we're talking about Nate and we're talking about guys like that. And Arthur got in the mix as well. But um, I don't want to say this guy fall into your lap because you have to be prepared for everything. But when he was out there, the Jets move quickly. The other thing about Pierre de Sire is great guy in

terms of locker room and also community. So he kind of fits the Joe Douglas mold in terms of player uh as far as who's he bringing into the locker room, and a lot of these guys fit the bill, I would say, and he's one of them. YEA, let's not talk about Greg Van Roten, who the Jets reportedly signed over the weekend. A kid that's coming back home. I don't know if you saw his tweet over the weekend. It was him and the Jets almost like a Jets one,

not a onesie, but a little kids shirt. And he's he's from the area, and I feel like again, Joe Douglas just keeping his word, reportedly adding all these offensive linemen, why not add another another one of the bunch. And if you were to play tomorrow, I'm gonna steal your little anecdote from before. Where do you think he would line up? Meaning where do you think Greg Van Roten would mind up tomorrow? Whoa we? I have no idea

and I'm not trying to avoid the question. What I would say is that last year he started a loving games for the Carolina Panthers. Douglas is doing here is clear. He said he was going to address the offensive line. Um. Now on that interior, think about Jonathan Harrison, who was your starter at center last year. You're bringing Connor mcgoverned from the Denver Broncos, who started what thirty one games I want to say the last two years or maybe all thirty two to lass two years for the Broncos

at the center position. But he has also uh he also has gained experience playing guard earlier in his career, so he's kind of one of those guys who can play both center and guard as well. You bring in band Rotten, you you re signed officially resigned Alex Lewis, who started twelve games for you a year ago. Brian Winters is still on the roster. Ben Roten is a guy well traveled, played north of the border in Toronto. Uh born in Rockville Center, So, like you said, a

local guy. He actually played in the boomer as siasin I'm probably Challenge All Star Game back in two thousand and eight, Greens, how about that I covered? I covered the Empire game my first season, and I guess that would be the Jets really coming full circle there. Yeah, just think about another guy. When you do your research and you find out more about these guys, what is this resonate? Now? What does this make you think of?

Let me let me read this to you. If you really want to you have to be willing to sacrifice a lot to get it. Because if you're one of the guys like I was an undraft the free agent and not coming out of a big college, I didn't have the pedigree of a lot of other of a lot of other players, so you just have to kind of scratch and claw your way. I knew from a young age that football was something that I wanted to

pursue scratch and crawl former undrafted free agent Pro Football Focus. So, by the way, in your prep, uh, you pointed this out that he was the Carolina Panthers most improved player

in two thousand nine team. So when I hear that quote and then we take a look at this kid who grew up in Rockville Center and find out a little bit more about his journey, I think about Joe Douglas right, And to your point, not only did PFF rank him the most improved Carolina Panther, but he got some big props from five time Pro Bowl guard Trey Turner, who played the opposite position. So Greg Manroon played left guard for the Panthers and Trey Turner played right guard

for the Panthers. So Tray Turner gave him some major props. And I feel like he's you know, it's funny. I feel like you don't often see stories like this, but I I when you do, they really kind of hit home.

Because to your points, small school, undrafted played early on his and his career in Green Bay was cut, goes north of the border, plays with the Toronto Argonauts, and then actually finds a home in the NFL with the Carolina Panthers, and I feel like you see a lot of players that come from the CFL, not a whole

lot of them stick. I mean, you think of somebody like Cam Wake, but Greg Van Rowden could be in that mold where he comes back to the NFL after playing a couple of seasons up north and then he sticks. And it's one of the things where it must really come full circle for somebody like him to come back to the team that he grew up rooting for. It must be really cool for him. And I think that again, the Jets offensive line continues to get bolstered way even

before the draft comes around. And he exactly take a tackle, then Green's exactly U. Joe Douglas is not gonna head into the draft saying he needs a tackle. But I will say this that there's been five guys the Jets have been connected with up front this offseason. We mentioned Louis resigning, that's official. Then media reports are that the Jets have picked up tackle George Phan guy played left and rights I third tight end um. A lot of

people like his ceiling. The former college basketball player at Western Kentucky, Connor McGovern solid starter at center for the

Denver Broncos. Josh Andrews, he provides you some more depth, I would say, on the interior, and then Greg Van Rote another guy who lines up with the guard position, So one tackle right, and then uh, while specifically when you're just talking about McGovern, Van Rotten and Lewis, you're thinking about the three interior guys, So listen, Uh, Douglas is going to continue to look to bolsters offensive line.

In no way would I say, okay, well, that this is what the Jets are done with in because like you said, before the draft, and even if they didn't grab a tackle, a lot of people think that, hey, that's obviously gonna be interested in the New York Jets at the number eleven position. If they do indeed stay there, they do have four picks in the top eighty overall, So again, no surprise at all if the Jets go looking to help fortify that line early in the draft.

You know, I think you can start to see the puzzle coming together with the different pieces that Joe Douglas

has reportedly put on this roster. And I think if you're a Jets fan, you have to be excited because we're only less than a week from the official start of free agency, and we're actually recording this one week after the legal tampering period officially opened, so for the Jets to add all the players that they reportedly have and still have the second and third waves of free agency and the draft, I think you really have to like and I think if you're a fan, you're encouraged

where this team is headed. And one thing on the offensive lineman that I want to bring up the guys that have reportedly signed with the Jets is one of the words Joe Douglas used was versatility. And that's something that was a t set of trait that he was looking for an offensive line, and he said that at the Combine press conference. And when you look at guys like George pant experience on both the right and the left side. You look at Connor McGovern and Greg Van

Roton both have experience. For McGovern center and guard. For Van Rotten, both guard positions and center. And then you look at Alex Lewis, I don't know if he's played another guard position other than left. But then you look at guys on the roster like Jonathan Harrison, he has experienced in almost every position so it's clear to me

that Joe Douglas is looking for versatility. Would also be were mess Greens if we didn't mention h Josh Andrews, who played in parts of nine games with the Colts over the past two seasons at bull center at guards. So again one of those guys who can shift to center and he can play guard. Last year his most offensive snaps game in Week nine against the Pittsburgh Steelers as a former cult building for and injured Ryan Kelly. That's another guy reportedly Jets have come to an agreement with.

So five in all, one is official and four are um four. I should say our agreements in place in four the five overall our interior players. Okay, let's let's circle back to the secondary here because I know that you you brought this to my attention Pro Football Focus earlier today tweeted out build your dream secondary with current NFL players and they want three corners and two safeties. So, and you wanted to give your answer, But how do you want to do this? You want to you want

to come to a joint answer. You want to go your five and then my five. No, we can come with the joint answer. You know What I will say, though, Greens, and maybe it depends on how you're gonna go, and because we might have a big time disagreement, I may have to go on my own. What I will say is, if doing this the right way, and I like how p FF is doing this and putting that out there, I think this should have an a f C East flavor because when I think of elite secondary players, I'm

starting in the a f C East. Okay, So, so are we just limiting this to the a f C East or you want to go everywhere? Oh no, we'll go. We're going everywhere. I'm saying. I see, I say, well, I mean to your point, well, there's I think there's two corners and one safety that you could pencil in for three of these five slots. And if we're on the same page here, I'm pretty sure you'd say Stefan Gilmore White, and Jamal Adams. Done done, done, check those boxes.

Those are my three I would rank, And I don't care who you rank first. I would put Gilmore and White at the top at the cornerback position. Jamal Adams, he's best safety in football right now. Uh, at least last year his season. It would be hard to make an argument that I'd put somebody ahead of him, So I would stick with those three guys out of the FC East. So who would you say as your third corner out of because there's three corner spots and I don't think one of them is supposed to be a

slot guy. I mean that wasn't included in the copy. So if you're picking a third corner to represent your dream secondary, who who are you going with? I don't know. That's a great question. Do you want a ball hawking in there? Well, I mean the guy that comes to my mind. I don't know if you agree with this. The guy that comes to my mind would be Jalen Ramsey. But I don't know. I feel like I'm missing somebody. But to me, the first guy that came to my

mind would be Jalen Ramsey. I like that call, no doubt about it. Um, And I know this guy is a safety, but I'm just thinking about his skills would allow him to play it at a third quarter position. How about makeup Fitzpatrick? Yeah that's fair, but would you consider him a safety or you consider MC? I consider him a safety, but I'm fooling around with my line up a little bit. Okay, that's fairy. Well, if you put Minca, that's kind of a backdoor way to include

him as a corner. So then who would you choose as your second safety? I don't know, what do you think about Eddie Jackson? I like Eddie Jackson. It's a little uh see. I was thinking about Durwin James, but I don't know how similar. I don't know how having a similar player to Jamal. I don't know how that would play out in the second area. Obviously there are two outstanding players. But Eddie Jackson is a ball hawk, and I think that pairing him with Jamal would be

a nice little one to punch. But I think you can't really go wrong with either of those guys. Yeah, yeah, listen. Uh it's a fun little exercise. And the way Marcus May was playing at the end of the two thousand nineteen season, if you put this list together, maybe the next offseason, maybe he's gonna be considered for Yeah, you know, and I think that, you know, just based on last season. You know, who else had a great year last year? And I don't necessarily know if i'd put him in

for top five. But Devin mccordy. If you're talking about AFC East flavor. He had another great year for the Patriots, and he was leading the league and interceptions at one point. I don't know if you finished as such, but there's so many I feel like you could go in a thousand ways, so we're you're right, You're right, I would do that third quarter. I don't think you can go wrong with Jalen Ramsey. Make I was just thinking of a way to get him on the field because he

I think he's got special ball hawking qualities. Okay, so we're going at true, true or false. This is the five that we've come up with. Starting corners, we have Stefan Gilmore, Trey White, and Jalen Ramsey. And then the two safeties we have Eddie j acs In and the Jets his own Jamal Adams. Yeah, I like that one. I do like that. Yeah, I like it too. I'm wondering if we're forgetting anybody like I feel like I feel like we're gonna stop recording. I'm gonna be like, dang,

Like that's who I meant to say. You want Darius Darius Slay on there. Darius Slay had a good year I don't know if I necessarily wanted. I think I'd rather have Trey White. I think I'd rather have our trio than Darius Slay, although I am a big fan of Darius Slay. Yeah, listen, you can't go wrong with having Ramsey out there. So, in short, this is what happened. Well, let's recap the podcast here. George Jenkins reportedly re signed,

and then of course, uh, Pierre Dozier reportedly resigned. Arthur Mallet a whole laundry list of corners. Right before we wrap up, let's hit on the corner theme. Why don't you tell us who else is out there that maybe not makes sense for the Jets, but just some of the guys that are out there if the Jets continue to try to address the corners, Yeah, for anybody. Green's for anybody the names that are out there, right as Prince of Mukamara, The Prince is out there, Logan Ryan

still floating about. Um, we got Ronald Darby, former Philadelphia Eagle. Uh, you know a former Buffalo Bill prior to that, who a few years ago was really on off swing. I know he's dealt with some entries. So those are three corners at the top of my mind right now. Just you're just thinking about names. How about you? Um, I think I mean you basically covered it. Did you say Derby? Yep? Yeah.

So I feel like I feel like this might be one of those things where maybe Joe Douglas will make a couple more moves obviously we don't know who, and then could be could become draft, might be a couple of corners that are that are called that will be in green and white in a couple of months. Here, so that I do, I have a suggestion greens. Before we get out of here, people have to follow. Dennis Wasazak, great writer for the a P. He covers the Jets and covering the Jets for a long time. As far

as offseason transactions, he does it by emojis. Nobody does it better than d Wass. So I'd encourage everybody because if you're ever wondering, hey, where can I get my one stop shop? Wise? Got it all man? You just pull up that, you get your little snip tool, you snip it, then you cutting paste and you're all set. All so you're impressed by the emojis, Is that what you're telling me? I love it. I love it. Maybe maybe we have to incorporate some emojis for something that

you want to do moving forward. Uh, yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that. The other thing is tomorrow on tomorrow's podcast, and you tell the fans to you know, get into the mix here. I think we should talk a lot about the draft. The number one is how is the National Football League potentially going to change the look of it this year being it based on technology as opposed to it being based uh in a major city like

Las Vegas. And the second part is, Okay, now that we're a week basically a week in the free agency because the negotiating period started last Monday, what do fans start thinking about in terms of the Jets and those

four first picks over the first eight overall? Right? And tomorrow, actually we're gonna go over one of the mock drafts that is posted on our website on our mock draft article, CBS Sports came out with a seven rounder and we'll, you know, we'll break down probably the first four rounds or so talk about the different scenarios. But that is tomorrow's episode. Down Today's episode e A go enjoy the rain. I'm sorry you can't go out for a run, but

you're walking up brother. Okay, well, enjoy the rain. Make sure to make sure to wear a raincoat, all right,