Listen: Jamison Crowder (11/5)

some some candy power rankings from Jamison here. Okay, I only eat like three candy bars anyway, all right, that's great, keep it short. Number one would have to be a baby Ruth Baby Ruth. Number two would be as Snickers, and number three would be a I'm enjoy. I don't if they count, but I don't know if I've ever had a baby Ruth. I don't know if I've ever had an Almond Joy Joy, my little mama Joy. You asked my lady, my girlfriend, like anytime she goes in

the store, like you know, from getting some games. You want to go and get something. But how off it's a guy like you having candy can you can you do anything you want during the season because you don't you don't have much body fat, right, and like I, like I said, it's not yeah, I'm not eating it.

I'm not eating a candy bar every day. You know, it's just you know, every now and then, like I said, it may stop the store, pump gas whatever, or it's bit well not pump gas New Jersey because you'all don't do you like that? But that's cool. Did you know that when you first came here? No, I didn't. I didn't actually, so I actually found out that. Um, it was like that I was. It was an off season. I was at duke training and uh, one of the

trainers that work in the training room. Um, she lives, she's from New Jersey, lived in New Jersey for a long period of time, and um, she explained that to me because you know, in North Carolina we have just you know, convenience stores. You know, the gas you get out, pump your gas, you go in, you know, like every other state in the country. Yeah, basically, you know, get

your drink, it's a candy bar. But up here, you know, like the first time I had gone, like I said, she had a weird you know, she let me know about it, and now it was weird like, first of all, I went there, you know, the guy came up to my window and he was like, yeah, what do you want? Like ninety three whatever? You know, So it was kind of weird but it's cool though, Like what's your favorite

cheap food? Oh, my favorite seat food. I probably have to say, like just like some some chicken wings, like I love, I love wings stop. Back home, I haven't. I haven't found the wings stop out here because that sounds fourn to meion wings stop. I don't know if we have any upen New York, NA. What I mean Like, I feel like if you're if you're looking for chicken wings, you just gotta find the barbecue, right right. But dinosaur well,

dinosaur barbecue. There's one in Syracuse, there's one in Brooklyn, there's one in New York, Newark, there's one in Harlem. That's probably that might be dinosaur barbecue originate in Syracuse, right, yes, first one? Alright, well yeah I might have checked that out. But back home, wing stop. Man. So what has the transition been like for you? You grew up in North Carolina,

you want to do? You played in Washington, which I consider somewhat northeast, but this is really northeast, right right, Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's it's been a little bit of a different, you know, transition, but I think that you know, I've adjusted well to it. Um, you know, it's just still trying to learn my way around this area. I'm

not looking forward to to the winter. It was. It was, but a lot of times while I was there, Um, you know, I we would I would miss you know, um and that winter storm would probably come in more so like late January, early February, so you know, a lot of guys would with would uh you know, we get out of town or be gone by then. But but yeah, so whether there's a significant difference, what else

you see it changing people up here? Yeah for sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, um, you know a lot of people attitude, you know, not everybody though, it's not it's not as uh, you know, back home, you know, everybody's hey, how you doing, you know, and speaking and everything. But up here, you know, it's just more so you gotta just you know, going about your business. You know. The driving up here, they

drive crazy. Are you a conservative driver? Now? I'm not a conservative driver, but I'm just like people driving bad, right, Like you know, every time I go to the hotel on Saturdays, like you know, on uh I go, I guess I go around like the back way on in the State eighty. I want to stay. I go in the State eighty and it's like man of speeding on those sixty five seventy And you know sometimes I kind of, you know, if it's saving that might go Savni folk

say five minutes cars just going. I'm like, man, ain't no way they're going sitty. They got going like eighty five. Yeah, yeah, that's that sounds Northeast to me. Yeah. And then I went out to the city a few times and now you hear at the horn the light just turned green. Home. I'm like, could I could from the game? Man, I

feel I feel like a shame because I'm from Manhattan. Yeah, but now old I you know, it's I like it because like every time I go to the city is like I get a little bit excited because you know, I'm not really used to being in a big city like that, or just being in this area in general. So have it taken the train to the city. Are you driving all the time? Well? Normally what I'm going? Yeah, uber,

but um, you know, before the season started. There was times like I went out there on a Saturday with my family and stuff and I drove out there and um, you know, the driving whness bad, you know, kind of that time square area. It was you know, congested. Yeah, but um we went we and my family went on the event. We uh did a tour of the one World Trade Center and that we found the parking garage not you know, far from there, and it wasn't that bad. So you know, I can I think I can manage

geting around a little bit. I wanta pack forward. Was that for you going down to the World Trade Oh? Man? That was that was unique? That was uh, that was cool, you know to go see that. Um, you know, just

to think back to when that happened. I remember I was in like the third or fourth grade and at the time, you know, I didn't really understand what really was going on, but just knowing you know, how how tragic and you know how south and how significant that day was in like US history, you know, and seeing the or is the ground zero at the water thing? So that was that was that was a cool experience.

And um, you know that's that's stuff I like to do, you know, in my downtime when I have time, you know, just go out there and see different things. What's the biggest difference between let's say New York City and d C. Uh. Well, for one, that's the buildings the south, the skyscrapers. D C they didn't really have. I guess that's the architecture. They don't have tall buildings, so you can't have them.

Because of the monuments there, monuments and all kind of they got like a no flyes on in certain areas and stuff. Um, but I think, oh know, like you said, like you said, d C, it's a little bit you know, you're kind of getting into like the Northeast. You can definitely feel that they still got a little feel of like southern a little bit, you know. Um, but d C was was unique. You know. There was a lot of things to do out there. It was always something

to do. Not as much, I would say in New York obviously, but DC had had a lot of nice in the restaurants, going to see the mone Man smith Sony and things of that nature. It was always something to do. So DC is definitely, you know, one of my favorite cities. You talked about your family a little bit. How close are you guys talk about your parents and your and your brother. Of course it's just the two of you. Yeah, just the two of us. Yeah, just

the two of us. Um, you know my parents, Um, you know, they they you know, I get a lot of my mentality, a lot of my thinking from them. Um. You know, they raised me well, they taught me, you know, from right and wrong, and um, you know, they tried to always have me involved in something, um, you know, from a young age. Uh, just so I could uh you know, be successful or at least get exposure to two things that a lot of my friends excuse me, a lot of my friends and people I grew up with,

you know, it wasn't necessarily getting that exposure. So um. So yeah, my family, man, we've always been close and uh you know. And then my little brother, and they tried to do the same with him, you know, try to expose him to things. It's a little different. It can be challenging at times, just because you know he uh you know, deals with disability and can't speak and stuff like that. But they want to make uh, you know,

his life very similar to how I grew up. So also, though about your brother, he loved sports and I saw this. I think he didn't. I think Duke did a video that I watched the other week. You the relationship between you, your parents, your brother, and you guys would go out, meaning you and your brother Jamorris would play hoops together and you do everything together even though there's an age difference. Then yeah, yeah, we'll go to the park, you know,

just to get him at the house. You know, he hasn't been as active as I have been, you know obviously with sports and things like that, but you know, it just it was just things just to do. Let's get him out the house. I can get out the house.

We go to the part right up the street, um from where you know our house was at, and we just go up to the super basketball or just go over there and pay on the playground, so said, or whatever it may be, you know, just you know, just like any other sibling, you know, brother, brother, type of type activity. So um, like I said, you know, you always we always need my family. We've always tried to make um, you know, him feel just you know, like

everything is as normal as possible. And he obviously lives with down syndrome. What does that mean in terms of your communication because you talked about it before. He can't speak, So how do you guys go about having that connection because everybody talks about Jamison says that that bond is truly unique. It's something that you can see you don't

even have to see any verbal communication. Yeah, I mean it's you know, like like you said, he can't can't speak, but he's still smart, like he knows you know, right from wrong and stuff. He you know sometimes you know he's he's a teenager, you know he can well he's sixteen, he'd be seventeen in December, so uh, you know, I think sometimes Mrs tries to manipulate us, you know, in no way because he can you know, he can be

a handful at times. But um, you know, but like I said, with the communication, you know, if he wants something here, he'd go and get it and uh you know he'd bring it to you. If it's a bag of chips, he'd get the chips, eat them, you know. So um, but it's just that verbal communication and um, you know we've tried to get into like the sign

language and stuff like that. He knows some sign language, so that's another way that um, you know, my folks kind of communicate with him, just like on basic you know, basic sign language like eat stuff like that. Like you know, I've tried, like I said, just like some of the little basic things like I'm not really that advanced in it, but just some of the basic things like you know, eating stuff like that. You know, he'd tried to pick

up on that from time to time. But if you'd be like Jamore, she wants some neat and here, you know, here, he would come with you or whatever. You know, he he knows. And then like times when we ride in the car uh, you know, North Carolina, we have bow Jangle stuff like that, so we may pass the bow Jangles and uh, he may want some neat and he may start fussing. You know, it's kind of start fussing a little bit um and that that's letting us know that he's hungry or he sees something that he wants.

Now every time we don't stop, you know, because sometimes he just had something but he wants something else. But those the ways that we picked up on, um, you know, what he wants and things like that. So how frequent are those FaceTime conversations between you and your parents and your brother? Yeah, they pretty frequent, pretty frequent. Um, my mom's got a new phones, so her phone was messing up like two weeks ago. But they're pretty frequent though.

You know, I always talk to my folks, talk to him like every day and uh you know some days, uh sometimes you may go to or three days not speak to him. And my mom black I ain't heard from it. You know, she always checking in on me. So, um, yeah, it's it's freaking it's always weak and it's FaceTime or or over the phone. It can be FaceTime over the phone, you know, either or I'll talk to my dad. You know, my mom she may still be at work getting ready

to get off whatever. My dad had caught me and uh, my dad he just recently retired. So what did he do? So he was he was a coach and an educator. He taught. He taught at my middle school. Um, so he taught for a long time. When the year he was like, uh yeah, he was a soch studies teacher and um a coach. So when I was coming through, he was my coach, he called coach the middle school basketball team. So he was my coaching middle school. How was he as a coach with with this something Um, yeah,

he was. You know, it was just it was a tougher for you than the rest of the kids. He went tough for me. It wasn't tough for me because he you know, he wasn't really like that, you know, I did something wrong, he let me know. But um, you know in middle school level, man, we had a really good team. Um and set down there, like like the way the rules set up, you had to be in seventh or eighth grade just doing the team. So

both years were really good. Um on the lost three games. Um, you know, both years combined, so it wasn't really a lot. You know, it wasn't really getting on me too much. We was winning, you know, Georgia the time. So when you were playing point, were you one of these new age guys as first score first or you were dishing first? Oh, No, I was more. I was more. I was more of

a facilitator. Um, I could score, you know sometimes. That was one of the things that like my folks with my dad's always you know kind of till me on the side. Like I was like a very unselfish player, and sometimes I would be on service to a fault, Like you know, I was always trying to you know, get everybody involved making nice pass and stuff, um instead of scoring, you know, just an easy level or whatever.

So but I could see you picking some people's pockets too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I just you know, play the passing lane. You know, I get a couple of steves, man, go down and get a couple of dunks. You know, but at what age could you dunk? So when I first, I'm gonna tell you my first time I I dunk was my It was after my sophomore year, going into

my junior year. That's summer I had gone to a five star basketball camp down in Virginia at Hampton Sydney University, a little small school, and um, me and my cousin we went to the camp and so like it was like the first day that we got there was like the check in day or whatever. And there was a couple of guys that already checked me into the camp that were there, and they was in the just shooting

ball in the gym. So we just wanted to started shooting a little bit, started playing a look, you know one whatever it was, and so I got the ball one just one time I threw it up and it bounced went up and dunking, and my cousin was like, man, hold on you, that's crazy. And that was the first time. So that was my first time duncan like that was my first time. First the first time dunking in the game was my junior year. So the first time I

dunk was going into my junior that summer. And then my junior year against Pe my high school, I stole stole the pass and uh, I went down and just dunked in. And I guess, you know, it's surprised a lot of the fans, you know, a lot of a lot of people knew me in my area. I'm looking at your hands. You got big hands though now I ain't that big, but I like for me, yeah, and it's a it's surprise. It's surprised a lot of people, and um, you know, and it was like that ain't

done it. So like the crowd go wild, Yeah, they went, can you pomit? I could? I could, yeah, but but like when I was dunk, when I was dunk though, I never palmed it though, like I just I would cover it like you would. Yeah. So um, so that was like the crazy thing about it, Like I could I could never just pomit in the game, like you know, I can palmit if I just you know, put my hand up or you know it's picking it up. But in the game I couldn't get you know, my hand

when that big I weren't doing all that. You know, I went, did you ever take a tennis ball? That's what we used to do one where kids because we couldn't pomit, but we'd lower the rim a little bit and take the tennis ball and try to bring it down. But no, I never I never did that. I never did that. It was I know, like like ninth grade, I had got like these dn't had these shoes called sprinting shoes, and it was like you walk up, it's like on the front part of your shoes like a

little plate. So it kind of forced you like to walk on your toes and it supposedly supposed to like you smith your calv muscles. So like me and my cousin were just fascinated with trying to dunk. So we got like Smith in his shoes and all kind of stuff. But I think, you know, looking back, it was just kind of like you know, Asian matur got a little older. You know, that's really for me, that's all. It would like. I'm a tour got a little older, got a little

more explosive. Um. I don't think the smithing shoes worked at all. You know, we don't tell them that because they're trying to make some money, right, but I really haven't seen them. Yeah, probably I think that was the thing doing that, you know, during that time. So you talked about your pops a little bit. The social studies teacher recently retired. He also played ball himself in college. But what about your mom? What did she do and how much of an influence did she have on you?

She's had a huge influence something. She she works now for company cars Hillodonova. They like specialized in making like titanium for like airplanes and stuff like that, So she works like an accounting for them. It's a little it's a plant that's in my city and in my town. And um, she's been there. She's she's about to retire also, so um she's been there for a while. Um, but yeah, she's you know, she's the one that that that really

you know, keeps me going. And you know, every day I always trying to tell me something where I need to get better at like, um, you know, coming through school, it was just always like she was always when I was pushing me to make sure that I was doing

I need to do in the classroom and stuff. Um, you know, even though a lot of times you want to kind of do what I need to do to get by, but she was like, no, you gotta, you know, go to extra step, you know, in stead of getting a instead of having a B, you know, get that A or you know, write whatever it may be. So so, yeah, she was the one that always wanted me to do the extra go to extra mile. So and are you more like your mother or your father? Oh? Man, I say,

I think I'm more like my dad. Come my dad a little bit more laid back, a little bit more laid back. To my mom, she's very like folks, you know, very expressive, very like um. She likes to be in charge, you know, and I'm not really like you know, I'm not really like that. But I ain't just gonna, you know, put myself out there and just start out being vocal and stuff. So I'm more like I'm more like my dad.

I'm more like laid back sill. So, So why did choose sociology as your major Duke, and man, you got a minor in African American studies too. I believe in the marketing management and uh MMS certificate Marketing Management and he did that, the duke too well. So why we decided I and what do you think that? Do you have a thought processes? First, listen, you're gonna play for a long time. You're a successful guy out there on the field. But have you thought about post career? Yeah?

I have. I think about it. I think about all the time. But you know, I think about it now. I feel like I'm at the stage of my career where it's it's it's you know, a thought that I always do, UM that I always have. UM. At this point, man, I'm I'm really trying to get into I want to get into the real estate. That's what I want to do.

Want something, you know done. I bought a few properties in my area Carolina, Yeah, down in North Carolina, just about my folks and in my house that they you know, currently moving into in the process of moving into, uh down in North Carolina as well. It's in monro Yeah. It's kind of yep, I grew up. It's kind of more so on the on the edge of like getting into like the county, like in the country, the country where we call it. Uh guess here it's like the suburb,

but it's the country. Um uh you know back home. But um, like I said, I got a few rental properties that um, you know this upcoming all season that I want to kind of you know, get get going and uh, I gotta go and do some renovating stuff like that. So you know, I'm still trying to learn it, you know. And uh, just yesterday, UH was got Bryce with with with us they work with that. Yeah, you know, they got a few programs at the NFL um p A. They offer like a few business things and in all season.

Um I did. I did one of those two years. Three years ago when I was in Washington, I did an internship with the uh Marriott he ad quarters him. But there's the Maryland. So yeah, I've been thinking about you know, you know, I know this football stuff don't last, man. So I've been trying to you know, diving dead and certain things. See if I like it, um, you know what I can get into you know after after after football. Yeah, you should talk also to Brandon Copeland. We had him

on the podcast he's a big real estate guy as well. Yeah, but I want to know about Duke because here's basketball. You love hoops. Duke is obviously one of the mecca's in the college football or college football college football. We can see him later. Okay, So they got my boy over there across the way. Pretty good. Yeah, you know you're tight with Quinn Cook, aren't you? Is not your guy queen? Pretty cool? Yeah, and you were telling us before, but I want to bring it back on the podcast.

When you were recruited to do you played pick up just with one of the plumb Lea's and that team. Yeah, yeah, that was the team that was I want to say that was a team that was so the year before to what year? What year we're talking about, So we're talking about twenty so it was going into my senior year and I graduated twenty eleven, so it had to be like the summer of twenty team the summer of teen going into my senior year. Uh So, but the

year before Duke had won the national championship. That's when they had Nolan Smith. She Knowlan Smith and them had just graduated. So I think that year before that, that's when they had won it and it was Kyrie. It was Kyrie was an incoming freshman. But anyway, making long story short, was on a recruiting visit there and it was during the summer. So me and my family just there and ran into Marshall Plumley and we got to

talking with him. A mom initiated the conversation. She's the talker, and we end up, you know, long story, so we end up. You know, he asked me, I want to come play pick up ball with them? So I ended up going to playing pick up ball and it was you know, Kyrie, Andre Dawkins, Um, John Heirs thing, Uh, Tyler Thornton, Um, shoot all those guys man. So we end up playing pig ball and it was it was, you know, a great experience for me, you know, just go out there and play with those guys. Man. Like

you said, I held my own. I held my own for so but it was cool though. It was cool. Dunk No, I didn't die. I didn't. I didn't get a chance, you know, you know, dunk man. But but but this is fascinating to me because obviously you're an elite athlete, so sometimes we see overlapping, uh, and you played a high school ball. So you you go to do you're the top receiver from a statistical standpoint of

all time at Duke. But um, you know you overlapped with Kyrie Irving a few times and you said, yeah, there were multiple times we got like court, what did you think about him at that time? Did you know he was gonna be what he's becoming? Also, how do you like? Playing Cameron? Was cool? So we actually played pickup ball in the press facility, which but I've been a camera you know, plenty of times, um at the time.

And it was crazy though I really didn't even know Kyrie like that, you know, because you know, he's a new Jersey guy. Whatever. It's like a lot of times I found like, you know, I was like a lot of guys from North Carolina area, but you know, I ain't got word of he like the number one croup you know whatever. So that was cool. That was cool playing with him, And um, I think that man as far as point guards with with with scorn ability and

with handles, he's definitely the top top of my list. Um, you know, even back then playing against him just pick up ball. And then you know, obviously now when the top guards in the in the NBA. Uh So yeah, man, that's that's why I think about him, and uh it was cool. It was a great experience when you when you played with Plumbly and Kyrie and you're going into your senior year from high school, Like are you freaking out being like crap him about to play with the yea?

I mean yeah, I remember, I was nervous. I ain't gonna lie. I was like, man, they just want that's a tempionship like I play, you know, high school ball. It's like a whole another level. So that was cool and I was I was. I was definitely a little nervous, but like I said, I didn't got to play with those guys and I, you know, score a couple of buckets. I was like, okay, you know, I play a little bit, you know, but did you have your own Did you

have your own shoes? One thing that I'm giving your clothes. But she was a very important. Man. If I can find a picture, my family had it. Man, Man Miles, he went back there. He got me, ain't on the shirt, shoes, shorts and everything. Because I was this on the V I had jeans and a college shirt. And then I was like I don't have anything like, Man, I can I take care of you? So your parents watching this? My parents was watching and everything. So what I'm gonna

I'm gonna find them pictures. I'm gonna find them. Yeah, I want to see them. You wanna find the pictures for y'all. What your pops say afterwards? Man, he say much, you know, and a matter of fact, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell who pops to talk to authors uh

Ow it was Brodakowski. The guy he was was that Mark cat Now it was a famous point for coach of course, and talk with him for a while after we had finished playing, and um, he was like, yeah, my son, you're telling you my son, you know, could possibly be coming here on football scholarship. So it was just it was just a great experience. Man. So I'm

gonna get the caught here in second. But did you have an opportunity being such an established receiver there on the campus there and Durham, did you have any interaction with Coach k yourself? Oh, I've made him a couple of times after I graduated, So while I was there, I never had really, you know, any interaction with him.

I mean one time, me and Queenn were just hanging out and Queen was on the phone with him, and uh, I didn't say nothing that you know, but other than that, it was after I graduated, my first time getting a chance to meet coach k. So I've met him a few times, you know, when I go back in the offseason. So, so, yeah, David cuck left. How did he get you two Duke?

And what did he mean to your career? Not just there but now is you're sitting here a veteran of the National Football Lake Yeah, well, I mean he got me there. Uh. I just felt like Duke was the right place for me, excuse me at the time, and it was it was kind of crazy how how the recruiting process um kind of happened and how things kind of changed. Uh, you know at first, uh with Duke my first offer, so I was very thankful for that. And then Carolina came, and then like East Carolina came

to a couple of schools and so State. Yeah, for um, I had pretty much out of North Carolina schools, you know, I'm had a couple of smaller D one double as schools and uh, initially, um, you know, I really didn't know you know, I was kind of leaning towards Carolina, dude, you know, ECUs just up in the air. But um, uh Carolina, they wanted me to come in and play

defensive back. So like when I was going on recruiting visits there, I was meeting with the defensive coordinator and in the UH in the cornerback, and I was like, nah, you know, I didn't want to play defense. I played defensive high school, you know, both sides, both sides of ball. But um, I really I really wasn't feeling you know, defense. You know, at the next level, I feel like I

was better with the ball in my hand. And then um, East Carolina at the time, they had like the air raid offense with UH coach McNeil and m Lincoln Riley was the offensive corner So um, I was like, man, you know, East Carolina the really good But the only thing with like East Carolina. One of the reason why I didn't, you know, two ago, there was you know, the conference that they played in that want of my family to come to the game. So they were like in uh, I don't want to say the room they

were They're playing like Tulane and Tulsa. It's like a

lot of the games. Now, yeah, I don't know what it is, but a lot of their games where you know, some of the games were probably used to be the Conference USA, so like you know, some of the games like that was for farther And I was like, okay, A c C and Coach Cut they wanted to come and play offense the coach cause they just made me feel like it was a home atmosphere, like you know if they made me really feel like they bring me in, you know, not timming what I want to hear, but

timm it was right. But at the same time, you know, made me feel like I'm a part, you know, a part of the program and everything. And then it was also the A C C. So you know, I thought about my family. Okay, if we're not playing that, dude, away game might be you un right down the road. My family can still come, or we ain't playing it, dude, we might play it wake forwards and when to say them my family can still come. So that's what really,

you know, got me there. And then I was like, I said, Coach Cut, they made me feel like really welcome and stuff. So and then obviously you know camp pass up on the on the duke education you know, Um, that was the main thing. Um. So yeah, that's really how I got to do all right, So I want to bring things full circle here before we let you go. You do a lot of work in the community. You're talking about your family. You do a lot of work or kids with disabilities. So what have you done and

what do you hope to do in the future. Well, you know, we had to camp I don't know if I mentioned this before, but we had to camp down and then um in North Carolina that duke in all season for you know, kids with Downson John in that area, and then um, you know, just trying to you know,

raise money and stuff like that. So next Tuesday, I want to say, not next to it, but the following tuesday, it'll be November to twelve, I'm having an event at the moles Moles and um, you know, we're just sign some all the graphs to be there from five to eight and uh, you know, it's just the proceeds when they come in is gonna go to um, you know, National Downson John UH Foundation and everything. So that's that's coming up. That would be November twelve, is the camping Duke.

Is that the one that you worked with my friend in Syracuse, Michelle Sain. Yeah, yeah, that's her shout. What what should people know about families who have somebody with downs and what is out there that it's just a misperception that people think. Yeah, I mean I think, um,

some of that people should know. Well, I know, for like, just speaking from experience, are some of the challenges you know, um, just the challenges day to day challenge Like you know, in my area, we don't really have a lot of

resources for Jamar's or for my family. You know, if my family want to go out and do certain things, you know, there's not a lot of resource and not a lot of places they can go where they have um you know, uh centers or something where they can teach, you know, on on on their level or help them you know, develop. So a lot of stuff my family, myself,

we have to do on ourselves. So I think that's one of the things that for me personally, I want to get my brother and I know there's a lot of other famils out there in the same situation and get my brother exposed to you know, just you know, come together and you know, talk about the challenges family differ family, talk about the challenges and then try to come up with a solution or something we can help.

You know, those families that they don't have those resources in those areas that you know, can help their family member with downs grow and develop. Um. That's the main thing that I that I think, Um is uh, you know on the day to day challenges that that I see, I gotta I gotta ask in your family's been incredible with that. It's uh, And I think and what you're

doing on the what is it the November eleventh? You gotta you gotta shot, get out there, meet Jamison, getting photo taken with him and get something from most Yeah, and the proceedson I posted on my Instagram. You know, Um, it's out there. I'll just keep give the shot out on Instagram. What's the handle? Yeah? Oh man my Instagram j Underscore crowd. We gotta ask you man though, before you get out you're going back to Washington here soon. Yeah, I know you just be looking for a victory, but

what what what what goes through your mind? Uh? The opportunity to go back and play against the team that drafted you and you had a number of good seasons there before signing with jetson Freeny. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's definitely I'm looking forward to, you know, obviously looking forward to this game this week. You know. Yeah, I'm looking forward to going to Washington as well, you know,

playing against those guys, a lot of guys. I know, I have a really good relationship with, um, you know, Washington, and I just look at it, you know, uh as a as a as a blessing. You know, they gave me opportunity to get into this into this league, into this business. You know, they drafted me and um, you know, gave me up to get my foot in the door. So I appreciate it. But I definitely look forward to

playing November twelve, Mos floora Park, meet Jamison. We appreciate you coming five pm to eight pm, five to eight November twelve, Mo. We gotta have it back, yeah all right, yeah we gotta have a hoop segment. I enjoyed it. Yeah, we need to you know, talk a little basketball. Yeah all right. That was the Official Jets podcast, presented or powered by A. W. S. Here in the play MGM Studios.

You can find us New York Jets dot com, YouTube, SoundCloud, Apple podcast, Google Play, pretty much whatever, Jamison, thanks for joining us. Well, we'll have you back on for some blook talk alright, Yeah sounds good.