Welcome back to the Official Jezz Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Errick Allen, Henry Anderson on the pot Thanks for joining us. Appreciate you having me. We are are in the best MGM Casino Studio rate US review US, New York Chess dot Com YouTube, Apple Podcast. All right, Henry, we're recording this before Thanksgiving. I just wanted to be known. So your Thanksgiving plans entail. Frankie Luvu on the grill, y, Yes, So it's gonna be
not your traditional Thanksgiving meal. We'll still have some some of the traditional sides like well sweep pteto cast role, weve some mashed potatoes, will have um some of the we'll have some pies and stuff for dessert. But instead of and well, I think we're gonna have ham as well, but instead of the turkey, I think we're gonna have a little Hawaiian uh Hawaiian barbecue, which is Frankie's specialty. And have you had any of it before? Yeah? I
love it. I'm upset. It's like my favorite. It's like my favorite dish now like is his. He does these chicken thaghs that he marinates in his his secret family recipe that he refuses to give me because I've asked him numerous times for it, but he never gives it to me. But yeah, he marinates it overnight and puts it on the grill and it's just incredible. It's like, I don't know Hawaiian barbecue. I don't think he's big out out here on the East Coast. I would say
it's not. Yeah, when I was at Stanford, it's like it's really popular out in California and there's a lot of restaurants out there that the Hawaiian barbecue restaurants. So um, Anyway, I'm looking forward to that meal because I haven't had his his Hawaiian barbecue and and probably a couple of months. It's his Hawaiian barbecue recipe trump some of the Hawaiian barbecue that you've had. Let's say it's Stanford. It's like
that good. Yeah it is. It's incredible. And I'm telling you, I'll try to get this recipe from him so many times and he just won't give it to me. It's Frankie one of the most well like in the locker room and feels that way. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's uh, he's just the chill dude. Like I feel like any a lot of the Polynesian guys that I've played with in the league and in college or just kind of like the chill, kind of island vibe guys. So they're
always fun to be around. And uh, yeah, Frankie's Franki's an awesome dude. We all love them. I feel like I want Frankie if I had a barbecue or like a beach barbecue, I want Frankie on the grill and Frankie d Jane because I feel like he's yeah, he does, he does. We had a barbecue. Uh this was like right after the preseason at Leo's Um and Frankie Like I felt bad because Frankie was on the girl for
like hours, just cooking his trap. I feel like I like should have paid him or something, because it was yeah, I mean yeah, he was like I mean, the girl was in the middle of where everyone was sitting, but like We're all just sitting there crushing food and Frankie's like laboring over the girl for hours. I was like
feel like, yeah, you know, he does, he does. I think he likes the fact that we all are like obsessed with it because like, it's not just me that loves the like everybody that eats it loves to check it. You just you just mentioned Leonard Williams, so of course was traded a few weeks back to the Crosstown Giants. What's the relationships like with you guys along the defensive line?
Because you were at the radio show inside the Jets across the street of Vanderbilt Sports and spirits inside to Windham Hamilton Park with Town Monday nights, you along lock it up Steve McClendon, uh, full of Runzo Fatakasi, Nathan Shepard and you guys really seemed like a tight group. Yeah we are we uh, we get along great together. Um obviously, Uh, you know, losing Leo was was tough because we were all really close with him and he
was such a good dude. Um. We all still keep in touch with them, and like I've been talking to some of the other guys on the on the line, we all tested him pretty much every week, just checking in on seeing how he's doing so. Um, so we still keep up with him. But yeah, I mean we just we we we hang out together. Um, we all get along to other We're all um, I mean we a bunch of good dudes up front, Like, no one, no one's like kind of doing their own thing, like
not really hanging out with the other guys. So we're we're just a tight knit group. Um. We spend a lot of time together obviously in the building, and then um we'll do some stuff outside the building as well, and um, yeah, we've all got good relationships and uh I think that's that's uh, that's important. What kind of activities do you guys do outside the building. I'm sure that involves eating. Oh yeah, yeah, well if includes Frankie on the grill clearly. Yeah, I mean he's an honorary
remember the defensive line. I guess. Yeah, obviously eating, we'll we'll have some barbecues, Like we'll go out to eat at restaurants, and like sometimes if we're we're playing away game and we get in uh we get into that city earlier, we'll go all, well, we'll go eat together somewhere. Um this off season, so yeah, I mean most of the time it's it's eating related, which doesn't come as a surprise this this off season. Like during O t As, we went paintball together. Yeah, that was a lot of fun.
That was although actually, no, it wasn't paint It wasn't paintball. It was like it was like rubber pellets or something that. Uh that, yeah, that it hurt pretty bad. Jordan Jenkins snuck up behind me one time and popped me a few times, and uh, I had some welts for a few days. Who else is good at the rubber pellet ball? Who else was good? I was Actually, I'm gonna give myself a little crow. I was out there being being pretty uh, pretty strategic out that was doing my my
army crawl. I could definitely see because we just had him on the podcast a couple of weeks ago when we talked about his military background that's part of his DNA. Yeah, no, he was. He was good though. He he pulled a nice little flank on me at then on one game and uh, but yeah, the guns just kept it was
funny because like it was I forget how many. It was like maybe seven on seven, Like we just split it up, so seven on seven, and the guns would always just keep jamming like they were just they were not great guns and they would always keep jamming. And uh, I remember it was like four on one at the end of the game on in one game and I snuck up flank this dude, I like I'm staring at him.
Like he turns around, he sees me, He's like surprised, and I try to pop in my gun jams and I don't like and then he turns around and like shoots me three times. I'm like, yeah, that's not right. Um, who's the funniest guy up front? M the funniest dude. I mean, Quinn is pretty funny. Yeah, Like does he try to always funny? Yeah, I think he does, but like he's just naturally funny too. I always just laugh at like his his accent, his southern his Southern draws
is always funny to me. Just the way some of the words that like, the way he pronounced his words is um. I just I don't know, I'm easily amused, but it's it's pretty funny to me. You know, I'm had to know this for a couple of years now, since you got traded um here in Indianapolis, you hurt your throat. In the moment that you get hurt, like, can you physically tell people what's wrong with you? Or are you like so much in pain that you're just
like that was. It was just something where like I feel like if somewhere would give you like a quick little chop in the throat, you'd be like to kind of take you back for a second, and then you'd just be back to normal in a couple of minutes. And that's kind of what it was like for me. Like I got hit and then I was kind of
running like the quarterback through it. I turned and run to the ball, and I'm like that kind of felt weird my throat, and then I was like, it's nothing, Like I didn't think you could do anything to your throat anyway. And then uh yeah, Like that was in the first half, and by halftime it was like starting
to hurt, like drink water and stuff. And then in the third quarter, I made a tackle and I got up and like screamed, and as I screamed, like my voice just cut out in the middle of my scream, which was weird, and I was like, some might not be right, and like it just kept hurting worse and worse as I was trying to like drink water on the sideline, and I just like I still literally think
anything of it. I just thought it was maybe swollen or whatever, and then uh, after the game, it was like bad, like I couldn't do it, like I couldn't swallow at all, and uh the doctors were like, yeah, why don't you come in tomorrow, we'll check it out. And they didn't seem like too concerned about it and
got it scanned and ended up being bad. But yeah, it wasn't wasn't a thing one of those things where I like I knew immediately that it was just like yeah that it was bad, but looking back at it, was that because I know a lot of people termed that potentially career threatening. Was that the case? Uh no, they said, I mean it it's uh no, it wasn't
career threatening. They said, like if I was there, I got kind of lucky because they said it could be like life threatening because like obviously the thing that I that I fractured, I fractured like cartilage, and the cartilage that I fractured protect your windpipe and so once it's fractured, if it gets hit again, like the cartilage can collapse
your windpipe and like you can stop breathing. So the the doctors were explaining that to me, and I was like I got pretty lucky there, um because I played like another half on that and luckily didn't get hit there again. So um, but yeah, I mean they said it happens a lot like in car accidents, like people whiplash and like hit their throat on like the steering wheel or something. Um, and people can like die because
like it collapses their windpipe and they can't breathe. So have you ever got hitting the throat in the game after that? Yeah? Well, I get so paranoid about it too, because, like I did natural It's like I played ice hockey. I was a goalie. Anytime I get hit upstairs like in the neck area, like okay, what's happening now, I
feel like my throat is like swallowing closing. As we're talking about this, they did say it happens in hot he a lot too, with the puck like coming up and hitting them, that that injury does happen a lot hockey. But now, like it'll, I'll hit and practice sometimes and like I'll I have to kind of wiggle it around and make sure it's okay, and I'll still I think I kind of piss our doctors off a little bit because I'm always kind of coming up to him like hey,
like is my throat good? And they're like, yeah, you're fine, Like quit worrying about it. How does the dude who grew up in Georgia end up it's Stanford? Yeah. Um, So I liked Jim Harbaugh was there at the time. Uh, and he had he was kind of starting to turn that program around. They won, like I think one game a few years before I committed, Uh, and he was slowly starting to turn that program around. The year before I committed, they went to a bowl game, and uh,
he was just a good recruiter. Like I liked his competitive attitude and uh, I really liked what what he was doing with with the program. And I think the biggest thing, Like the biggest thing too was um, was just the education that that Stanford provided. I want to private schooling to land and education and was important to me. So uh, I had some people close to me told me that if I turned out a free, full scholarship to Stanford, I'd be stupid. So I tried to follow
that advice. Did Harbaugh actually come into your house during the recruitment period. Did he have that opportunity to not only talk to you, put impress mom and dead? Yeah, he did he did he Uh? I remember he had dinner. Uh yeah, we had dinner together and he had a lot of food. I think he had the most food out of anybody there. And we had another there was another offensive lineman that committed to Stanford with me, who
was from Atlanta, and he came with his parents. So we were all at the dinner table and Hardbay more than any of us. Um And then what was this pitch? I don't remember, but I remember beating I think it was. I think it was like a beef tender one if I remember correctly. I could be totally wrong there because it was probably about ten years ago. But he did eat a lot. And then we we went upstairs and
watched Modern Family for did you really want? But now his hard but talk during the episode or does he just take it in and smile or is he outwardly laughing? And how does he take I don't remember since we brought up Modern Family now I have so last year, isn't it? I don't know. But what I do want to know is I want to create, Like I want to match someone in the locker room to a character in Modern Family, So like who's the Phil Dunphy who's
Jay Pritchett, who's um awfully difficulty? Well, go ahead, figure who or what's the easiest pairing? How about that? It doesn't need to be all of them, but what's the most the one that comes to mind most naturally? Who would uh Phil dunphye be? I don't know, I don't Maybe you got any ideas. I don't, I can't think of anything. Someone that's uh, I don't know, well tough. It's such a nice guy. I'm just thinking of someone that's like, he's funny, yeah, but kind of like spacey, right,
wouldn't you consider phail kind of spacing? Can you use the word dorc and in these these times, I don't know, I want to be politically correct, okay, yeah, yeah, but a little i'd say, Q is like the who's the little who's the manny? Yeah? Yeah, okay, I see that that's funny. Uh were you disappointed? You're there a year and hard bus is for me to go and they're like, oh God, thanks for the tenderloin and new coaching staff.
Who's this David Sea? Yeah? It was I guess it was something that had been kind of tossed around while I was getting recruited it. He was he was like a hot coaching prospect and um could potentially leave, so uh yeah, I mean after after the after my red shirt ear, he did end up leaving, and um, it was definitely different because his coach Shaw was kind of the polar opposite of Hardball. He's more of a calm, relaxed dude. He doesn't really show much emotion on the sideline,
and obviously hardball is the total opposite. So, um, but now it was good coach Shaw's Coachhaw has done an awesome job there. They've they've had a little trouble this year, but um, but I enjoyed all five of my years there, and uh, I'm definitely glad with that decision. What about your education, why, Polly sigh? He said, Stanford, it was important to you to get that education and and not turned down and offer. Yea, what did you take from classes there and why did you opt to go in
that direction? Yeah, So my dad, my dad went to Lost, he did policygh my beds an attorney. He went to he went to the University of Wisconsin and he did
policy and ended up going to law school. So I I had I was kind of thinking along those lines, and uh, well, initially a Stanford I wanted to do kind of like the business management agree but I took I think one math class and I was like, yeah, but this, this is gonna be too hard for me, because the math and science classes at Stanford are like stupid unbelievably hard, and I just didn't have the time to to like to study and and put in the work that I that I needed to do well in
those classes. So I was like, I gotta do something else. And so I was pretty good at writing papers and that's pretty much all political science is is just reading and writing papers. So that's what I ended up doing, and uh ended up doing pretty well. And like the classes we're interesting too, Like it's it's a lot of cool stuff that they cover and in some of those classes. So yeah, would you what would you ever think of pursuing a LITE after this is all? Probably not? Probably not.
I don't know if I want to go through law school, Like I got some friends that are that are going through that right now, and doesn't sound like the most the most fun, So I don't think I'm gonna probably not going to do that, all right? How about I want I wanted to bring up the your off season after you hurt your voice, you get traded here, you put on weight, you lose weight, you put on weight like first of all, and the initial moment where you know you have to put on weight again after losing
all of it. Are you just like like you gotta give me a break and like what is your what do you do? What was your diet? Yeah, I mean it was frustrating because I did. I Like, I spent the whole off season from like pretty much the time I got hurt, so pretty much from like November through um let's see April, like just eating Like my mom's a pastry chef like I've told you before, and she would always have desserts like because I would. I went
home to Atlanta that offseason I was training Atlanta. It would staying with my parents and she always had desserts like and I would always have to turn them down and like no, I'm like I'm gonna get to this weight, Like I want to show the I want to show the GM and the coaches that like I'm I'm committed
to what they want out of me. And uh and of course is in Indianapolis front YEP so um so, yeah, I was just eating really like just really healthy that whole offseason and and I'd have like one cheat meal a week, but that was that was pretty much it for for the whole off season. And uh so yeah, it was frustrating just because I spent so much time and dedicated myself that whole off season to losing the weight and getting to the to a certain way that
I that I wanted to be at. And then I was there for like less than a week during the off season program and then they, uh they traded me. And yeah, I knew once once I got traded and the jetstrure three four, which is the old defense that we ran in Indy, uh that I would have to put the way back on. And I was like, God, I could I could have. I could have had all those desserts that mom was. I know. So I just went back home in June and got it. I know
that's what I should. I did go on a One of the things that did help me is I went after so I got traded, here went through all O t A s and mini camp, and after mini camp, I went a week to like an all inclusive resort and just crushed food so that that got my weight up a little bit um. But yeah, for me, it's like it's hard for me to keep my weight up to begin with, Like I have to eat just constantly to keep my weight up. So I knew if I had add weight instead of just like maintained, it was
gonna be be really hard. So yeah, I was my My coach are always my Delone coach would always joking me during O t s because I'd be out there like puking during like O t A s aren't that hard like here in helmets and jerseys, like you're not in full pads or anything, and I'm out there puking going through like pretty simple drills and he's like, you had drinking last night, Like no, I'm just trying to crush like a big huge meal before I come out here,
Like my stomachs just like engorged with food. So I was just always like I was just always having to eat, and it was it was not fun. There's gonna be a lot of people jealous of you when you say that I have to eat just to keep my weight up. Yeah, I mean, I just gotta That's gotta be the case
even now during the regular season, though you're so active. Yeah, and it's it's it was hard then and it's still hard now because I'm trying to eat like clean food and when you're eating grilled chicken and like brown rice and veggies, if you need to get the calories like necessary to to like keep your weight up, like you have to eat a ton of that or just constantly be eating like different, like smaller meals throughout the day,
which is harder to do during the season. But yeah, So I tried to do that for a little bit, and then I was like this, I can't eat enough of this healthy food. So I kind of relax my diet restrictions a little bit to healthy food. What is your last meal a day? Typically, like in season, it's I just have like a I have a protein shake before bed, like nine o'clock, town of class football. The usually a pretty big dinner and then protein shape. Does
it almost feel like a chore to eat that much? Yeah? Yeah, I mean because again it's I'm like, oh, if I'm out at a steakhouse or something, I can just I can eat a ton. But if I'm eating healthier food, I don't really like I don't love eating girl chicken fish or so you're a young dude still six ft six. How much do you win? It's to eighty five? What do you think you're walking around? Wait, would be if you didn't have to force it, probably to fifty or
less than that, probably like to fifty five. Yeah, you know what fascinates me about you is you participated in track and field grown up, but as a runner, this dude six ft six, you running like short relayses that I mean we were, I mean, did you have you go to a small well you said you want to
a private school. You might have some faulty sources. Because I did do they call them fat man relays because I was a throw so I threw like shop putting, say, and I did do a couple of fat man relays which was four by like four by ones, and so uh yeah I did that. And I did run like a two hundred, like the two hundred meter I think
a couple of times, but I got toasted. Um yeah, yeah, but we're out there running like against because they do them in different like heats, you know, and so I think it was something where like it was kind of the one of the later heats where they're still like sprint, Like they're still smaller dudes out there running, but they're
just not as fast as like the top dogs. So they I guess they didn't have enough teams to fill up the whole track, like all the lanes, so they were just like, oh, like let's put our fat guys out there and like just have them run for fun. So I think we ran, and I think I forget which leg that I I think I think I might have started it, and uh yeah, I mean I'm still
at that point. I was like two forty five in high school or something, which was pretty skinny, but I was still like these dudes I was running against for less than two hundred pounds. But anyway, I tried to keep up with them for like the first little turn there, and like by the time I got to the finish line, I could barely like I could barely even run, which
was I don't know, I was reading. I'm sorry it was a four by four, not a four by one, which was a four by four, like that's the whole Like I was trying to sprint like the entire circle of the track, So I was dying. It was it was bad. It was bad. I couldn't stand up finish. Do you ever run a mile? Not? Not in track and field, but the timing was yeah, like in seventh grade? Yeah, which was I think. I don't know if I ever broke seven minutes. I hated a mile. You were probably decent,
but I wasn't a track and field guy. But yeah, I've always wanted to clear six and I don't think I ever did. I think one like most sixes, you know, I don't think. I don't think I've cleared. Yeah, but these people running marathons are running miles in four or something. There's some sick people there are. Yeah, we respect that. We respect Henry. What Thanksgiving side? Could you eat the most of probably sweet potato castroll? You could just yeah,
sweep potato castro with like some marshmallows on top. That's obvious. Lot of that. No, see, I don't know how much that gets up to the northeast to sweep. Yeah. What's the popular like mash? Yeah, mashed potatoes very popular. Yeah. Do you call stuffing stuffing or dressing stuffing? Thank you? I call it stuffing. Do you consider pumpkin pie and sweet potato pie cousins same family? Kay? Do you like both. I'm not. I'm no, I don't really like. I mean,
I'll eat them like a right, we don't like him? Yeah, like rather, I like them both. Oh, I don't like either. I think they're okay, but like, I'd much rather have a different type, Like I'm more of like a chocolate or like I don't know, even pecan pile, like better than than like a pumpkin. I agree with that. But your mom is also a pastry chef, so I feel like Thanksgiving, she's probably whipping up something pretty nice. Yeah. I think it's usually usually be a chocolate cream pie.
I think that I've told you about before. Yeah, that sounds very good. Yeah, you know what I can do without and Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving? We can cranberry sauce. Get it out. I thought you either. Yeah, I thought I thought for sure you're gonna take Have you ever played on Thanksgiving? No? What about growing up? Did you guys have any traditions in terms of the fellows in the neighborhood you got together and a or not? Really? Yeah, we'd we'd go out and just throw the foot like
we'd have a little football game. And during the day and then obviously at night um, Thanksgiving dinner and then we'd watch the we'd watch the Thursday the Thursday games. So nothing crazy though, just family in town. And and hey, since we were talking about Stanford a little bit before, how about the Elon Elon Musk want to Stanford for two days? I believe, so he never really graduated there. Did you see the car that they just came out of the truck? Did you see the throw the throw
the rocks there at the demonstration? How does that happen? They threw the rocks at the truck because it's supposed to be unbreakable glass or windows or and the shatters. Then they then they try it again, it shatters again. It sounds like the Titanic, like, oh, the Titanic can't ship. I can't the ship can't sink. The ship can't sink the first time. It's out. Well, he's doing quite well for himself, but maybe he should have stayed at Stanford a couple more days. I don't know. I don't know
what happened there. Yeah, that was wild though. I feel like if they're gonna throw a rock at a window, they'd want to test it. Yeah, a couple of billion times. Yeah, I feel like you want to throw a couple of rocks before you show everyone throwing the rock. So, speaking of the laughs, can you give us any kind of glimpse into what it's like to be in a Greg Williams meeting room because he's so intense. You guys love him. I think everybody inside the building response to his coach.
And but with that being said, there's only so much you can really leak out because he is, uh, colorful with his word choices, right, yeah, he is. He's uh. I mean obviously I can't repeat pretty much ninety nine percent of the things that he says in the meetings on here, Yeah, because this Yeah, he uh, he's a funny dude though, and like obviously he's he's I guess calmer for the most part than I was expecting because I saw him, like I saw him on Hard Knocks
last year. I think it was last year, right, yeah, So I mean I saw that, and I feel like I feel like some of that was I mean, they probably picked out the most intense parts of the meeting to put on the show because that's what I was just expecting constantly from him. And he'll be like that when he's really trying to get a point across or if we if we screw something up bad, Like he's he's gonna be he's gonna be loud, and he's gonna be intense. But I mean he's pretty calm, but yeah,
he he does have some interesting or choices sometimes. And I swear like there's once or twice a meeting where he pulls a word out and I'm like, that can't be a word like that. He completely made that up, like I think. And on a Saturday night he was talking and um, he used the word safetyhood and I was like, what, There's no way that's a word. So it's like the meeting. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be the grammar police with Jet up because I don't
want to kiss him off. But he'll he'll pull some words out that I'm that I'm like, I'll kind of look around and be like, see if anybody else like notices that. Usually I think I'm the only guy that really notices the you know, it's funny, like I'll just kind of sometimes I'll just be in the back of the meeting here, I'm like laughing to myself and no one probably knows why I feel like it. What would happen if Greg caught you laughing? Uh, he probably yelled at me and tell me to get my eyes up
and pay attention. I feel like just being out at training camp. His phrasing of words is pristine, like it's elite. Like the way that Greg says something versus the way like I would say it. Whatever comes out of his mouth is ten times funny. Oh yeah, And because I think that's part of his coaching. His his coaching technique is he'll try to say something in a way that makes you remember it so that the next time you're in that situation you think back to like what he said,
and uh, it is effective. It is effective because I still again I can't repeat pretty much every every any any of those phrases back on here, but it is effective. Well, he's hilarious. Um, he is supremely intelligent. He's a defensive genius. And then on top of that, he is such a nice man. If you get an opportunity to spend time with Greg Williams, there like, wow, this guy is really a gentleman. So I think people on the outside are thinking one thing to him is that he's a complex dude.
But he's one of the nicest guys in the building period. Yeah, definitely. And I was like, I was kind of I was a little intimidated by him just because you you you hear about like the reputation and and everything like that. But then once you actually get to sit down and talk with him, he's he's just a totally he's the nicest guy. And uh, well, I want to say the nicest guy, but he's he's he's he's a fun dude to be around. He's um, he's a genuine guy. He
wants the best for for everybody in that room. And uh, he's yeah, I mean, he's a he's a good dude. One more thing before we let you go, I'm gonna give you an opportunity here on the Official Jets Podcast. You can accept it, you can decline it. Feelings won't be hurt. But do you want to reveal where the nickname Goose started? Says stays in the locks secret? I don't think, uh yeah, I don't think anybody knows yet in the locker room, so I'm just gonna keep it
keep it close to my chest for now. Alright, anybody ends up, Yeah, there's a lot of half truths out there, but he likes the mystery. A man of mystery. Alright, n thanks for coming on the Official Jett Podcast, presented by a ws in the bet MGM Casino Studio. Rate US review US five stars, Please, Apple Podcast YouTube, New York Test dot com. Have a lovely Thanksgiving. Enjoy your Hawaiian chicken. You can't make sure guys talked to Frankie
while he's putting in all the hard work. Oh I will, I will,
