LISTEN | Bart Scott on Jets-Chiefs (10/27)

with this season has flown by. It seemed like yesterday that we were here inside the bed MGM studio for the first time doing training camp live show, and now we're eight weeks into the NFL season, which is just amazing, it really is. But you know, for the Jets right now, you saw some positive steps the previous Sunday against the Buffalo Bills, but that challenges It is a tall task going to Kansas City anytime, much less. Wow, this is the defending Super Bowl champions and you're just a team

just looking for his first win. And any team too, I mean any time, any team going to Kansas City. I believe they allow fans also in Kansas City. I could be wrong. On that, but I'm almost positive they do, so there's gonna be some form of crowd element there also, Yeah, you know, and you get somewhat of a break that

there's not seventy people arrowhead. But this team, you can make the argument that they have the most valuable player in the National Football League lead that offensive, Patrick Mahomes, and he's got so many weapons on the offensive side of the ball, and defense plunk playing well as well. So listen, any team going into Kansas City is a tough challenge and the Jets are going to be up against it. Let's see if they can find a way to get to the fourth quarter and just give yourself

a chance. The Jets did that very well against the Buffalo Bills. Just passed Sunday, held the Bills out of the end zone multiple times, including times where you thought, oh, maybe the Bills are finally gonna get one, like when Josh Allen hits Tyler Croft down the left sideline, they're in the red zone. The Jets held back to back possessions,

gave the offense a chance. But one player on defense, and I think we should highlight because I think he's played well, maybe a little under the radar over the first seven games quinnin Williams, and he has three sacks so far on the season, and right now, I would say that he's definitely shown progress from that year one to year two jump that you'd like to see for all rookies. Well, first off, he's got to clean up the flags. We know that, and he would probably be

the first one to tell you that. But from an interior position, he's been very solid against the run. And you mentioned the sect totals. This is a guy continues to press the pocket up the middle and quarterbacks don't like that. And we often forget that quinnin Williams is just in his second season here. So let's say he gets another sack, maybe he gets Mahomes down this weekend, and you're hoping that happens if you're a Jets fan.

But if you're getting an interior rusher who has eight sacks, who's very good against the run, who's often drawing double teams, that's what you were looking for when you drafted Quinn and Williams the previous April. So I think signs arrows are pointing up with this guy. I like his motor, he's got unique athletic ability. We always talk about how low to the ground he is built, and he's explosive off the ball, and I would say he's got a really quick first step. Also that you've seen him burst

through the line a couple of times. He had two sacks against the Niners in Week two. He had one yesterday against the Bills. And I think that Quinn and Williams is a player. You mentioned the sack total. If he were to get eight sacks, let's say, right, just to put things into personally, it's possible. Let's just say that right now, he's got three sacks through seven games, that is quite possible that he can end the year

finishing with that kind of sector. Right, So with that in mind, if he were to finish with eight sacks, eight sacks is but Jordan Jenkins led the Jets with last season, so to get that kind of production from up the middle is very impressive. And there's another very impressive defensive tackle the Jets will see this weekend, Chris Jones, who has four and a half sacks, which is crazy to think from an interior position, but he's a great player. Quinnin Williams, you know one and a half sacks back

through seven games, not too shabby. No, Jones is a great player, so the Jets offensive line is gonna have to uh take care of him. I don't know how many times he can go single against him. You're gonna have to double him a lot. But what Williams is gonna be able to do, It's gonna take the pressure off the outside guys because if you have somebody you have to account for in the middle, then those guys on the outside they just gotta win their one on

one matchups. And the other guy who's been pretty good I think for the Jets in another name out of the radars, John Franklin Myers. He came up with the fumble recovery when Terrell Basham got the corner on I believe right tackle Darryl Williams and the Buffalo Bills and he knocked the ball out of Josh Allen's hands, and Franklin Myers was right there. He comes up with the fumble recovery. But those are two guys who I think

have been bringing bringing it on the interior. The question for the Jets over the years has always been who's the guy threatening you on the outside, So it's It's good to see bash getting them in the backfield, and he's made some plays the last couple of weeks. Now, Tarrell Basham two sacks in as many weeks. He had one against the Bills forced fumble and one against the Dolphins,

his first of the two thousand twenty season. And when you look at this Jets roster, we talked about guys throughout the season like Joe Flaccol and Frank Gore, who are obviously and the latter halves or third or they're close to the end of their career right respectively. So you would assume I'm not gonna put that out there. I realized that, as I said, Gore is the kind of guy you wouldn't be surprised if he's playing fifty.

But with knowing those two guys are old for NFL years, right, We've talked about them a lot, But the Jets have a lot of young players throughout the roster that I think of been at least somewhat productive for the team when their numbers called. I mean, the first guy that comes to mind when I said that is like Jeff Smith in Week four, comes off of I R. He immediately has a good game, and then against the Bills, Denzel Mims comes off of I R Saturday and he

has forty yards in the first half. Granted, you'd like to see more from Denzel Mims in the second half in the offense as a total, I mean totally four yards in the second half. You've got to be better than that. But I think that you liked what you saw out of MIM's at least in his first NFL action. Can I go back to the defensive side of the ball real quick? I gotta get props to Bryce Off, undrafted free agent a Memphis who had his first career

sack against the Miami Dolphins. And then Sunday, the Bills were running, Isaiah Mackenzie crossed the line of scrimmage and the A four mentioned Tyler Croft was coming over to block half in half read. Dad out snuffed it from the get and got him down. Mackenzie down in the backfield. That was a veteran type play. So he's a guy who we have to continue to watch because SAC against Miami a big play in the defense an offensive backfield,

So what is his next steps? But on offensive side of the ball, I just want to say one thing about Huff is you would assume he'd get more playing time, right with Kyle Phillips now out for the season with the ankle injury. And that's another young player that was an undrafted free agent in two thousand nineteen. He led the team in tackles for loss and then he started pretty well and then he gets hurt and then yeah, and then Bryce Huff to your point, you would assume

he might be in the mixture. See more snapped. And another guy I think we're gonna talk about this on practice today this week is that Jabari z Aninga. And now I remember that two thousand twenty draft class. So Steve McLennan and Tampa, now Quinn and Williams. We're seeing um him developed in front of our eyes. He always had the natural raw athletic ability. I think that he was slowed by injury last year. But quinnin is a

guy who he was flashing. John Franklin Myers is a guy you picked up off of waivers from the Rams. He's showing his talent. Bryce hoff starting to come on um and then Uh, Jabari z Aninga is a guy the Jets really liked. They drafted the four round out of Florida and explosive player who is not an edge but he's a defensive alignment, So how is he going

to work into the rotation as well? And then the other defensive player to think about is the other Bryce is Bryce Hall, because he's in that designated to practice window now off of the non football injury list. And if he's let's say he's on the same Bless Austin path, which is you get activated after week ten, maybe you get your feet wet, depending on the situation and the

numbers at corner. I think that's another guy that when the Jets drafted Bryce Hall, a lot of fans and a lot of pundit's we're thinking, well, that could be a guy down the road because he dealt with that pretty brutal ankle leg injury at Virginia. But that's this was a guy that led the nation in past defenses the year before he got hurt. He can find a football and the Jets knew it was going to be

a slow process with him when they drafted him. But like you said, hopefully he can get on the field here quickly because I'm sure if he can get up to speed on the practice field, and I wonder if he has a similar path through Denzel Mims, meaning scout team first and then get some team reps and let's see what you have. But his ball skills, he is at natural in terms of finding the football. And you mentioned what a productive season he added in Virginia's last

healthy year in college. So he is a guy who you'd like to see out there on field in the back half of the season. But sorry to get us off track. That's how MIM's you know, range of pores. You know, it's like a snowball that turns into the avalanche. How about Mims. Uh, he saw a lot of trade Avious White. Trade Avious White is a top five corner in the league, maybe top three corner in the NFL. He had those four receptions, a couple of crossing routes.

I really thought that one of his most impressive plays was taking care of treyde Davis White in the end zone on la Michael p Ryans first touchdown in the National Football League. Everybody talks about MIM's being explosive in and out of his routes, big guy, good catch radius. Um, So he performed well in Game one. Yeah, I think what stood out to me was what Mim said after the game. I interviewed him after the game from MetLife Stadium as I was up in my sweet and he

was outside and to go home. But Denzel Mims said, you know, I know I can do a lot more and I can do a lot better in the future. So I said, well, what do you mean by that? And he says, well, my blocking. First off, he said that blocking gets him going like mentally and in the involved in the game. And hey, I know that all NFL fans want to see the four three eight guy just like catch and run and just take one seventy yards and show off the burners. But Denzel Mims takes

pride in his blocking. And I think that the La Michael p Ryan touchdown there's a great example of that. And I think that speaks to who Denzel Mims is as a guy. I think he's a little tougher than maybe you would think because receivers kind of get that diva label, maybe unjustly. Well, yeah, you go back to Baylor. You know this. You did a lot of work on the previous draft here said. They used to talk about the way he approached practice every day and he loves

being part of the run game. So but Anthony backset it after your interview by the way, on Jets over time, Hey, listen, that's great that the receiver wants to be a blocker, but we need to catching touchdown passes, the catching basses down the field. And den deel Mims, to be fair, at college was the only n c A a receiver with at least eight touchdown castes catches and at least three seasons and three and three consecutive seasons. So yeah,

he got it on inside the red zone. And he was asked to run a lot of vertical routes at Baylor UM, but the Jets said early on he picked up the route tree and he can do a lot of different things. So, uh, he's the guy who you wouldn't anticipate is going to continue to get better, and you love who he's being coached up by. You're not only shown Jefferson, but you got hines Ward in there as well, of course, and hines Ward was very much known for his blocking, so I'm sure he'll pick up

a thing or two learning from him. In terms of the rest of the receiving corps, you mentioned jeff Smith, I mean he gotta hope that Prescott Powerman is healthy because we'll see what the deal is with Jamison Crowder. But you're hoping for this upcoming week and the rest of the season. You're receiving Corps Powerman, Mims and Crowder. And yesterday the Jets had two out of the three.

Brasen Burrios was starting in place of Crowder. How about the third and twenty where is Sam Donald through one of one of the most impressive passes of his three year career, gets burials in a crazy window for twenty two yards. And that was a great example what Sam can do from the pocket because I know a lot of times we talked about his improvisation skills and what he can do when a play breaks down, But here he is on the money and a tough situation. Third

and twenty he finds burials. But you're right Greenis you're talking about the Jets and Adam Gates referred to him as three dudes. The three dudes. The three dudes has yet to play together. And we're at the NFL midway point, So Jameson Crowder not in the lineup when Denzel Mims back and then Brashot Perriman. He took that big pop the sideline. I think that was Jordan Poyer, right player or high Yeah, I think it was Micah Hyde. It was hide okay, so I don't remember who the safety was.

It was one of those bank bang plays where damn, he really took a shot on the sideline. So the concussion protocol. So we have to hope for the best with him. Again, we talked about the speed at the receiver position, but uh, work in progress because Mims gets out there for the first time now, the Perriman is dealing with an injury. And every time Crowder has been on the field, he's been productive. Burials has done some

nice things in filling in for him. But the Jets, I thought, offensively great plan early and they moved to football. They were in good rhythm and what I liked is offensive line was blowing the Bills defenders off the ball early. Yeah, I think the Jets. It's really a tale of two

halves for the Jets offense. I mean, on six of the team's total yards came in the first half, and you saw the offense start to put things together, and you hope that the offense can take whatever happened in that first half and they could apply it to four quarters worth of football throughout the course of the season. And on a positive note, Michael p Ryan's stats aren't

I popping, but he did get his first career touchdown. Yeah, And we talked about the run and it's like a stretch and he showed his explosion there because I don't know if a lot of the guys would have been able to get to the edge, and the Jets have talked about him being a home run hitter. No, that was not a long game per se, but he got to the corner where nobody could get to him, No Bills defender could get to him. So he showed his

speed there. And he did have a twenty yard run in the first half, blocked up well and he hit it. And that's the explosion he can bring to the table. Or that's this big playability because I know we're always thinking in terms of, hey, chunk plays come in the passing game, Well you can get chunk plays in the run game as well. And the Michael p Right, I think did a really nice job of getting skinny and

extending the ball over the pylon. From my vantage point, I was about the thirty or forty yard line, and the Jets were going to the opposite direction, like to my left, and he almost like, is he gonna get it? I don't know, and then it almost looked like he ran out of bounds. And then he did a very nice job of he's jumping and extending. He certainly did. And that was like a veteran move right there, getting it over the pieline and getting into the end zone,

and the Jets had It's had nothing lead. And this was the first time in a long time since Week four against the Broncos, where the Green and White gave themselves a chance to win in the fourth quarter and as small steps right now. And I know fans are unhappy and everybody inside the building is unhappy with the Jets record, There's no doubt about that. But you do have to take things in play by play, watch them back correct the mistakes, and the Jets gave themselves a

chance to win. It would be really something if they give themselves a chance to win against the Chiefs, because they just faced a Buffalo team that was scuffling the last couple of weeks. And I still think they're feeling their own way Defensively, you saw the Bills take that game over in the second half with a lot of their pressure packages, and I thought Sam Donald was right, they made adjustments. Now what are we gonna do as far as making adjustments as well to counter those adjustments.

So I like defensively that third down were great. Again, the Bills were three of eleven. That was comes on the heels of a game against the Miami Dolphins when they Miami was just one of nine. So you're getting off the field on third down zero five in the red zone. I guess the other point of that is the Bills controlled the ball throughout that game after the first quarter. Yeah, it's very odd because the Bills all their eighteen points came off field goals, but they also

didn't punt. So it's the epitome of bend. But don't break. If you give up eighteen, you're gonna have a chance to win. Everybody, that's right, I mean, but you're going to Kansas City, and shoot, most teams are playing Kansas City. You probably got to score and the high twenties at a very at the ultimate minimum. Right, You saw the Bills Monday Night Football where they said we're gonna play small ball. We're gonna keep everything in front of us,

and they just gassed them on the grounds. Yeah, like your poison against Kansas City. It is. It's almost like when you when you talk to Coach Gaze on the Adam Gay Show about DeAndre Hopkins, You're like, you almost you almost know that he's gonna get his but how much can you contain him? It's like the same thing for the offense though of the Chiefs, right, It's like you know they're gonna do something somehow, but how how do you want to defend? Do you want to make

you wanted to be Clyde Edwards, Hilaiir? Do you want to be Patrick Mahomes and Tyree Hill and Travis Kelsey and all those guys. I think you gotta take the hand, take the ball out of his hands. You know. I know the Bills got crushed for it because they got just they got ripped apart on the ground. But they did have a chance to win in the fourth quarter. You know, if Tyreek Hill is going over your head,

that scoreboard's gonna be lightening up like the fourth of July. Yeah, and they have a great they have a great pass catching tight end two and Kelsey and Hartman and tremendous speed, and you know it's just and Andy Reichs play hon ers, tremendous yes. And speaking of the Kansas City Chiefs, let's check in with Bart Scott for our Victor Knox Swiss Army Knife Player of the Game segment. Bart, the Jets

face the Chiefs in Kansas City. I'm sure you could go in a number of different directions, but who is your player or what is your matchup to watch Sunday. I mean, for me, it's always McKay Beckton because he's such a dominant player. He's the most dominant player I

believe on the Jets. Him matching up against maybe Frank Clark or whoever they decided to go over there, it's gonna be a show because now that I think that they can believe that and confirm what they what they always believe that this guy was one of the best to have the potential to be a Hall of Fame player, and they're gonna put the pressure on him. He can

take the pressure and he's only getting better. I love the the te that they had with the receiver and him pulling around and you know, watching everybody that was on the train tracks. You know, make a business decision, and you gotta lean to him not only in the run game, but also in the passing game, giving everybody else help because you're starting to get a lot of interior pressure, so you can turn the protection, which makes it hard to blitz in the middle. But it leaves

Beckton on an island. I think he's ready to have Backton Island, you know, put him up there with some of these seriously, to put him up there with some of the other greats that were able to have islands. And we know what I'm talking about in Derrell Rivas Hey, I got Rivas Island here, I got mad Backer Island over here, and good minds thinking like I can't believe you're aligned with me today. I'm taking McKay back in verse Frank Clark. Frank Clark can get after the quarterback.

He's got three sacks so far this year. And I think for the Jets to stay in the ball game, Bart they got to possess the ball. Let's see if they can get that run game going. I thought the game plan was very good early against the Buffalo Bill's Frank Gore got on track and so did La Michael p Ryan and the big ticket as he is called, McKay backed and get now to the second level. I want to see that. I don't want to see Tyrand Matthew coming up with interceptions and being such a menace

for Jets quarterbacks. I want to see him maybe matched up with McKay Beckton a time or two. You know you can do that. Or you have to do is force force him to step up and step and replace crack replaced because if you take this guy but black a big because we have the big receivers and ma'am's and you have the big receiver impairment. Let's see if

he's gonna be available. But if he comes down and he hits a defensive end or he hits a linebacker and that forced the edge supporter to come up and have to you know, the force defender to come up and have to set the edge and um, you know, let's see if you can set the edge against you know, against Beckton and if he decided you know, the thing about Beckton been so big, if you decide to cut him, you can just fall on top of you, which is a reverse pancake. And if you if not, you stand

the training tracks. He can hurt your felis because you think you know Derrick Henry has a stiff arm. He has a six inch punch. You know, arrival by Bruce Lee. You know you guys are talking about McKay Beckton. I feel like I have to mention Patrick Mahomes here and this judge defense gonna be facing Patrick Mahomes. But it's not just Patrick Mahomes, It's Tyreek Kale, It's me, Cole Hardman, Sammy Watkins to Marcus Robinson, Travis Kelsey, Clyde Edwards, a

layer in the backfield. So for me, it's how is this? Did you purposely leave one out? He hasn't been there a while. I feel like he needs a couple of games to get to get acclimated to the offense. He only at thirty some yards in his debut. But I understand the point. But here's my thing, Bart, if you're the Jets defense, if you're Greg Williams, it's almost like a pick your poison type of matchup for this defense.

So if I were to hand you the keys to the playbook, Bart, how do you defend this Chief's offense? And in particular, Patrick Mahomes. We have to understand one. You have to keep Mahomes offend the pocket. You know, he actually has more accord outside the pocket than he is in the pocket. And what you want to make sure that you do is you make sure that you double everybody. You keep too high safeties. And you said, if you're gonna beat us, it's gonna be because you

run for three hundred yards. And um, you hope that those running backs, you know, get tired of pull a hamstring for all the yards. You've given up a poster letting my own kill you with one one place strikes you make you know, Clyde Edwards a layer, you know, make sure that he had holds onto the ball. You make sure when you get there, you get there angry, and you make sure that you you send him a message. But you know, it's like dying a slow death, supposed

to die to fast room. And you hope that during that process, you know, somebody jumps off side, somebody has a holding call. You forced him to have to block you, and then hopefully they get behind the sticks and then that's where you can you can get putts. And you know we've seen that, we've seen you know, the the We've seen the strategy of what teams will trying to do. We've seen the Chargers and what they was able to

do an accomplice with Herbert getting his first start. Make sure they're just attacking with four people because if you blitz him, he's gonna make you pay for the bliss because you're gonna have one on one with so many guys that can run fast. And then then the natural instinct for the corners is gonna be able to playoff

and give a cushion. Well, my homes has learned how to to give you death by a thousand paper cuts, because he'll throw that tin yard fifteen yard comeback until you dare to come up there, and then that's when he's gonna try and go over your head. You gotta stay disciplined and stick with the game plan, no matter if he had success or not. I think you're exactly right. You gotta make the Chiefs kick field goals if possible.

The Jets have been better defensively on third down in the last couple of weeks the Dolphins one and nine, the Bills three of eleven, and last week they were great in the red zone. Buffalo zero or five. Kansas City is a completely different animal. Bart just want to ask you real quickly. On the other side of the ball, we both put McKay Beckton under the spotlight. But what do the Jets do against the pressure that teams are

going to continue to throw against them? Like the Bills did in the second half where they got their safeties involved defensive backs blitzing, and the Jets weren't able to get anything going offensively. You know, you know, you know that Tyrone Matthews is going to be coming off the edge and they've been giving up you know, defensive backs coming off the age shape and you know, really you

know and able to have success with that. So, like I said, the hardest thing to do is to do do term protection where you put the you know, the you put the running back on the same side as Beckton and he's there to get all the leakers. But you're expecting it not to be a lot of leakers because back is that way, and you slide and you

turn the protection. You turn the protection. Instead of people facing forward, they face slightly this way so that somebody's coming they can just ear hold them and knock them out their face. And if they got to squeeze to a hole if everybody's turned like a fence this way and you stack it up, and it's the hardest defense to get through. Usually to be termed protecting, you have to try and loop all the way around to the opposite side in between becking, because it's gonna become a

natural hole. But that's the whole, almost like punt punt um. It's almost like punt um protection where you see the personal protector off to a side and everybody else slides and him and beck him be on the back side. That way. It allows, you know, you to be able to see everything coming and nothing can get through the middle. It has to come, you know, it has to come from the outside. They have to find the short side.

And the short side I just gonna be McKay beckman side and you hope that he could hold up better than trying to act those individuals in the middle center guard and guard to hold up all right. That was another edition of the Official Jets Podcast presented by AWS and that was another segment of the Victor Knox Swiss Army Knife Player of the Game segment Jets Chiefs Week eight in Kansas City. We'll see you next week on the Official Jets Podcast powered by AWS