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hard working team in the NFL. I'm sorry I apologized I rushed you guys back from your lunch. Four stars Listen. I have to say that I was here right, you were here rady to go. You skip lunch to do extra work? Well, Ethan, yeah, actually it was Chick fil A. But okay, I a more serious no, what are you doing here at the COMMA? Yeah? So last week, um,

you know Tracy Pelmin part of the NFL Legends. They have a bunch of their players coming into Men Tour, the positions for each group that that that's attending here from the universe, the different college kids. So they asked me if I wanted to represent the tight End group and I was like absolutely, I mean, this is fantastic. So basically what that entails for me is came to town and uh, I basically am in every meeting, I'm walking with him, I'm eating with every tight end the

tight end group for this for this year's NFL draft. Uh, it's myself, and there's um a national scout that's with them that kind of runs the group, uh, Chris Prescott from the Chicago Bears, and then there's two other he is okay, you remember good, Yeah, And then there's two other scouts from two other teams that kind of help out, and then there's me. So I just kind of blend in, you know, and just kind of give them any kind

of mentorship advice. UM. I tried to sit down with each one of the kids and talk to them and just pick their brain. I've seen about there's twenty of them here. I've seen about uh fit of teen of them live, you know, calling games in college football. I know their game. I studied them. And then there's some guys like places like Dayton and Portland's State that you know, people don't know. And I can't get that film unless you YouTube, and you gotta watch the whole two hours

instead of the cut ups. So uh, you know, some of them went to Senior Bowl, watch their Senior Bowl practices and just got caught up on the football side. But this is just more kind of given this guidance for this window right now, and then, like I was telling you off the air, Eric about the first year, right just giving them some guidance there. Listen, I told me, like, I got twelve years of good things, bad things, you know,

all kinds of information. And then of course, uh, you know, use me as a resource moving forward because they're gonna have their agents and all that, but they're not gonna know right, they're gonna I don't want these guys to to learn on the go. Some things they will and that's good. But if anything that I can answer that was looking for answers for that I couldn't get, I can give that to them. And I think, to me,

that's a that's a valuable resource to have. So that's why I'm here and I hopefully I get to do this every year. Did some of the guys recognize Anthony. That's a great question. So so you know, look, I'm I'm realistic, Okay. I was here twenty years ago to the date and uh, you know I have. I had met a very few number of these guys when I was calling football games. Uh some remember, but but majority of them did not know who I was. And I

didn't hurt my feelings at all. And then as we start talking and I let them know my credentials as far as what I've gone and and give my little spiel, and the the antennis start to go up a little bit, and then a couple of them start googling stuff and then the next day like, oh, you do that or you do this, and then I start reeling off my times that I had here, and we'll get into that later. But then they really started getting out in and listening to me, so, uh, they all know me now, which

is good, and that's okay. It doesn't hurt my feelings. I mean, listen, two thousands to two thousand, twenty. Although it doesn't seem like you know, a big this twenty years, I mean, you know it kind of. I went back to my room then I was like sat down. I was like, wow, I was twenty years ago. So but nothing's changed. I think there's only one new drill this year. It's a fade catch. Other than that's been exactly the

same since I was doing it and before then. So, uh, to answer your question, no, not too many of them knew who I was twenty years ago. Anthony, I want I want to go back there for a minute, because he hear all these stories about different prospects being asked interesting questions per se. Is there one that sticks out to you or a couple from from me? Yeah, I was asked, man, you know, I don't have taken you

back a little bit. Yeah, you're right, and uh, you know, but it was such a I had such a kind of a clean palette when I came out of school, honestly, I mean I had really good grades. You know, I wasn't kind of involved in you know, all the other riff raff. I didn't get in trouble. You know, I kind of saw, uh, you know, the I on the prize kind of thing at the end and um. But you know, like as I'm looking at the giants, you know, they do a big psychological evaluation. You know, it's like

a three question. I don't know if they still do it. I think the guys tell me they did. But you know, one of the questions, like, you know, do you prefer yourself to be a cat or that. That's what I was about to bring up because I saw that on Twitter the other day and I'm like, well, how do you answer? I'm trying to say, like, okay, well, I'm actually as I'm I'm reading and I'm thinking, I'm like, well,

what are the bad things about each right? Because you know, we all know there's a lot of good things that I honestly don't. I don't want to offend any of the listeners. You know, I don't like cats. I'm just not a cat guy, never was, you know, just not my cup of tea. You know, I'm not an animal. I'm not an animal lover. If it's not my animal or my pet, I'm I'm cool this and that, I'll pet it. You know. I like puppies, but I don't want to own one. So I just went with the dog.

I just know a lot meaner dogs that are out there, and just you know, when you think German shepherd a trade one and and Doverman pincher, those are like legit skit, you know, you're just like man and they're authoritive dogs. I was like, I just put a dog, you know, So I don't know if that prevented them from drafting me. But you know, it didn't work out with us and them, so I ended up being the jet, which is good, but that was one of the ones. I remember at

the top of my head. One of the guys told me, you guys never have had a dog. Huh when I was one years old, before I could remember, we had a dog. And then uh, it was only for a year, and then after that, I've never had a I've never had a like a four legged pet, which means why you have fish or exactly see he picks out you listen, at least you're listening to me when I'm talking. I did. I've had multiple fish. I've had the fair fishes that die a month later, all the time, the goldfish in

the bag. I tried. I tried to keep those things going. One time, I got it for like over a year. Not to get off topic, but I was able to keep it, you know, going for a year, which was good. But yeah, and you know, at the aquarium one year, it was like, oh, and I had to have something. We had an aquarium. We bought all these fish and then eventually we just got you know, well, speaking of cats, the jets traded the Big Cat to the New York Giants because you just mentioned the Giants and like that.

That there brings it all full circle math, psychological evaluation. If you just have cat in your name, then that's where they're going to have an extra. The Jets have an extra third round pick, and so four picks in the first thirty rounds. We'll have to see if the Giants signed Leonard Williams to an extension, because I believe that could become the pick could become a fourth round pick uh next year as opposed to a fifth round pick. That's all based on whether Giants side Leonard Waves to

an extension. But let's go back twenty years to your combine measurements. The glasses are coming on vertical leap for Anthony back thirty three point five inches. That was my meteor. That's like the median. That was my one thing. And as I'm looking at this, this is not correct, but the four correct. Dick Haley, long time, long time scalt at the Jets. When I ran my forty, he gave me my time. He had me down at a four

six uh eight four six eight is my time. So this came from where I don't know where that came from. I did not run at the combine line. I ran into pro that. So I'm going with the team that drafted me and the guy obviously Dick Kelly, if anybody knows anything. Yeah, so four six eight at two seventy pounds is the legit time that I did that I ran that. I'm going with. You know, that's wild. What

about the twenty yard shuttle four point zero eight seconds accurate? Yes, four point eight point point four point zero eight is accurate. That is a Now, if you just look over the course of time and you look at who those kind of times and who's running those, you're talking about elite tight ends that are low and weight that you know are just super fast freaks. And then a lot of receivers are having a hard time hitting four oh eight

uh in some of their shuttle time. So that time twenty years ago would still be and it might be the best time only till we'll talk about this in another episode. It might be the best time of the tight ends this year. I'm going out in the limb and the guys that we have here, I don't think you'll see any of these tight ends, not that that's a bad thing. They're gonna get some times that are gonna be good and they're gonna wild team with four twos and four and that's that's good for teams, it's

really good. But the four oh weight will open eyes even more in that would be what is it? What is the twenty yard shuttle for people who don't know. Yeah, so it's basically, you start in the middle of a cone and five yards to your right there's a cone,

and five yards to the left there's a cone. So you start in the middle and you go to the right, you touch the cone, then you go all the way across to the second cone, which brings you to fifteen yards, so five over, ten across, and then run back to the middle, which gives you a twenty yard shuttle back and forth. And uh, you know when when you're training for these things, you know, guys don't I was talking a lot. I'm like, oh, how much did you train for these drills that we do it once a week

would be our combine drill stuff. Well, I trained this stuff after the Senior Bowl. I did nothing except drills for whatever. It was a month. It was a month right to the contents about the same time every day we did those drills, and we mastered it, and it came down the angles, it came down the geometry. I promise you none of these kids are talking about those

were with their trainers. I'm promised you they weren't. But there is a specific way to get yourself around and then when you start practicing, you get the body lean and stuff like that. So I knew coming in man, and back then you didn't know what the drills were. So none of the agents really knew unless you had an inn with a scout, and we hired our agency hired a scout, so I had all the information. Now

they know, and it's actually shocking to me. I actually watched guys now last year that still don't look like they've never run the drill before, which is a shame because they should know. But information out there, so you know, like the Gauntlet, you see guys around the gaunt, like how these guys have run this thing perfect? Guys are going in figurate some we'll talk about that, but yeah, so that that's the drill. That's what I did, and that is honestly, that's an elite and on the big

pumping my head up you guys know the numbers. That's an elite time. Uh, and you'll see receivers that won't get that time. So I'm proud of that. For well, would you have run that's one of your shuttle in right now, right now, more more or less than double

your best time. Uh. You know what, right now, I showed my kid how to do one because he's in high school and they have these drills and stuff, you know, at these camps that he goes to, and um, you know what, I bet you I could I could swing uh a low high five probably, I'll tell I don't have the flextion, you know. No, Well, still, I mean what he's getting those kind of times. I mean that's even the biggest sloppiest lineman is getting below a six.

I'd say, well, I know, but I'm saying, listen, you're not a guy works out too much anymore. You still could rock. Don't put me on the spotlight. Yeah, he had his back with the lunch thing. Now he's coming back. I'm not coming I'm just saying, is that that's good

just waking up and getting in the funnel. You know, as I'm around some of these young guys and I see some of my some of the coaches and some former players that I played with that our coaches and scouts, and they're kind of shape and stuff, and I guess I gotta star nine stars. What about the bench? You didn't bench here? I did not bench. Uh. Yeah, So I'll be honest with you. My bench was not one of my strong points. And I wanted to maximize the

time that I could continue to bench and grow. So I went into my pro day and did it um and uh, I passed on it. I was trying, like the industry standard was to get the twenty and I couldn't get to that. But I will say this, the bench is not being as good as a blocker as I was. The bench was not a dictator of you know, how well I I benched and you know and all that stuff. Yeah I did so I did nineteen times in my pro day, which was you know, right right

about the standard. Some guys will get below that. Some you'll see tight ends. Now. I think West co had four uh last year, which that's pretty damn strong, you know, when you're talking about bench and West Virginia guy, right, so uh, not all of us were as strong as him, but you know, um uh that that twenty numbers a kind of a good standard number to get to it. I thought that was close enough. So that's what I did at the protest. I have a two part question

for you. The first is how different are the combine drills than just normal football, because you're talking about train inning and you know, I'm just gonna use the forty yard dash an example because everyone loves the forty it's it's such a formula from mechanics from the stands to getting out. And then the second part, you mentioned the gauntlet. I don't know if you know that they're timing the gauntlet this year. They're timing it, So I just want

to engage that. What time is reasonable? I don't know, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I yeah, I don't I don't know. Where do you start with that? I don't know. I mean, yeah, I guess you can time it. You know, the guy does it right, if he stays in the straight line and he catches the thing smooth, that's a good that's a good gauntlet. Now you've got to make sure you're going full speed and you can kind of tell if the guy is. But if there's anything off the center

of the line. And you know to what a gauntlet is if you remember, the guys catch the ball one two, and they turn and they run down the line and they go left the right. The balls get thrown to them by quarterbacks, and then they finish at the end, turn up the field and score runder the coach or the cone, and that that's a dictator that dictates it for me. I mean as far as a time, I'm not quite sure what that's gonna mean for me or

anybody watching it or any scouts. But maybe it sets the bar moving forward, don't Don't you think it would just make a receiver who might be slow playing it think twice about running let's say, as opposed to running faster psychologically, Yeah, I would say that would help. I mean, if they're telling me it was time, then I would want to have the best time. Then I would want to go, you know, faster. So that hopefully gets everybody just going full speed, which is important because that's a

part of it. Being able to control your body at the fastest speed when the ball is coming at you. It's not the easiest thing to do, you know, so uh, you know that that will dictate a bunch. But I mean, yeah, that'll be uh, that'll be interesting. But I go, on, that's a good drill. I can usually tell if guy's gonna be a good pro or not just off that drill by the wrong thing to assess, because guys can

always get better. But the fact that you've been able to train for this and not do it right is you know that that kind of bombs You mentioned Mr Hayley before. Um did you meet with the Jets at the combine? Um? I did not know. Yeah, And you know, it's funny because these guys, they have their meetings all week,

so they'll sit in the middle. They'll talk to different teams, and then they'll also have formal meetings with other uh NFL teams with like the GM and the head coach, and some guys kind of sit around and they feel like they're not getting called upon or or I have many meetings to go to. And I said, don't worry about that. I said, the team that drafted me didn't talk to me at all. I didn't meet anybody uh on. I didn't even take an official trip uh to the Jets.

I went to the I went to a Giant's official trip. I went to uh Cleveland Browns as an official trip, and uh, I think that was uh. I may have a one more place I can't remember, but that was it. So I had no communication with the Jets barter of fact, I thought I was going. We We felt pretty good about number fourteen to green Bay. Green Bay ultimately picked Bubba Frank's, the other first round tight end that year.

But up to the day before the draft, they had me, well, at least they told my agent, Ron Wolfe, said that they had me rated above him. But inside I heard Ron wolf flew down to Miami that the day before the draft and worked him out one more time because Bubba didn't work out well for some reason. His times were messed up. He he lost weight game weight, and he went down one more time before the draft, and I guess he sealed the deal. So uh, he cost me some money up front, you know, I tell him

Bubba Frank's cost me money. And the fact that Chad Pennington didn't go to the Steelers of the forty niners and bumped down the seventeen, that cost me money. Because when I did, when I did, hear from Parcels and this guy after I said, you know, we're one of the better tight ends. We like you over Bubba Franks. Then I was thinking out, once he's off the board, I'm gonna go seventeen. And then uh, I didn't go there,

So chattles me some money too. He cost me some cash, and I tell him out all the time, so he buys dinner all the time. He was a quarterback, so he's got the cash. And by the way, you talked about the hundreds of some of these guys beat your marks from the combine twenty years ago. Are you a guy who carries around hundreds in your wallet? Or would you have to a t M at Basorry, did drop

my world or whatever? Uh? You know your answer. I'll tell you I don't normally carry cash, but there are times throughout the year when I have like stipend myself where I'm traveling, where I may or may not have each one a few hundreds uh on me, you know? So uh you know. I don't want to give you exact time because obviously there's listeners and if they see me, it might be that time of year, and I don't want anybody to kind of jump on me and attack

me or anything like that. I don't think anybody's trying to trying to come up in attack. I could probably handle a couple, but you know, once you start, it might be you know, distraction. Then you got pick pocketers. Okay, Yeah, twenties are good because there's it's sticking. They're breakable, They're easily breakable. So I mean, you talked about a packet. This is such a random question, and this is probably you know, this could be a combine question. But I

was asked once in in college, would you rather fight? Um, shoot, what is it? It's like a hundred one duck sized horse or a hundred or the opposite. I I gotta think of the The sounds like a real good question. It's great Anthony was talking about by a pack a duck size, a duck sized horse or a hundred ducks? Is that what it is? Hold on, but you'd rather fight one horse sized duck or a hundred duck sized horses?

A hundred duck sized horses because you know, listen, you get a big duck, they start bobbing their head and poking with that big I don't want to do that business because I'm not I'm not as quick. I feel there's a quickness factor. I see them doing it when they're small and they can really jab and do their different things. That's not my that's not my cup of tea. So I feel like being tall and just have the element of squashing. You know, I don't think that a

hundred duck sized horses. I'm glad, d D. I'm glad not taking either. Um. Now, since you're working with the tight ends here in Indianapolis, I would say right now, if you're a Jets fan, you feel pretty comfortable where you're at with the tight ends. Ryan Griffin came on, you signed him to an extension, uh late in the season. Chris Herndon basically had a lost year, but he should come back a hundred percent for you. You mentioned tray one West go before. The Jets also resigned Daniel Brown

so he will not enter free agency. So right now, I look at the position and say a lot of depth. I'm quite excited if I'm a fan about the tandem of Griffin and Herndon. And I don't know if this is a team that is going to be looking at the tight end position through that first four or five round range. Yeah, I don't think so either. UM, you know, you still gotta evaluate them and do those things. I know coach Dunn has been around and I've seen him quite a bit. Uh, you know, just making sure they

do their homework on those tight ends. But you know, yeah, you're, like you said, the fact that you're getting Herndon back that that makes the group larger because he didn't start the season and he wasn't healthy throughout the season. So to have all those guys back, to have them healthy and use those guys, you got a full gamut of what you need. And then of course, as Westcoe got some playing time more towards the end of the season, he became a better player. I know they're very high

on him. They like what he brings to the table. He is he's very physical, he's strong, he's aggressive on the field, he's nasty, he's a finisher, and they just you know, you can't find that out there. As I look at the names in this draft, I don't know if there's any of those guys that want to do that. So that is, you know, and and plus he, like you said, he can move around a little bit, run

some intomedia routes and do those things. So you know, again another year under his belt where his head was swimming early on the year. But and I think that's good because they threw a lot at him where now he'll you know, come into this season feeling a little better, feeling more confident. You should see a different player and hopefully get more playing time and make that group a

whole lot better with those guys. Is it a leap to think that if you do have a healthy Herndon, I know he just played one professional season, but we saw what Griffin was and that connection he established with Sam Donald is a leape to say, hey, maybe this could be one of the better one two punches in the NFL at the position. Well, it's nice to have

two options to guys that can run routes. I mean, obviously Ryan Griffin had I had a nice uh you know, had some nice catches throughout the year, some red zone stuff, which yeah, he was. I mean, he's a big kid. You know, I didn't realize how you know, tall, he's like a true sick just slightly with his six six right, so he's like a true six six. So when you see him, he's just like he's a towering guy. But yeah, he's in a fishing blocker. He does. He did some

good stuff on the edge this year. He still runs well, which is good, and uh, you know those things are good. And then hern didn't look at you know, you just you gotta you gotta get your act together as kind of your you know where you're where you're gone right. You don't want any distractions. You don't want to get suspending. You wanna you know, you want to be on You want to be where you need to be so we can utilize you. The best ability we always talk about

is availability, and that's the biggest thing with Chris. Going through an offseason, going through a trainee camp and being able to start game one will do him great and we can see some of the great things or more of the great things that he showed from the year before. So that'll be key. He's got to have a big year. In my opinion, that's just because he should. I mean, that's the kind of player that I think we all think he is and that he needs to go out

there and show that, not prove it. We know we can do. He just gotta do it now and be available every week and continually, you know, grow that tandem, not just between those two tight ends with the quarterback for Trayvon westco to go through the draft, be drafted rookie, mindee camp, training camp, like there's no downtime, and then, like you said, you're thrown into the fire. And I feel like most rookies are thrown into the fire like that. So how much can he grow as a blocker from

year one to year two? Because at the end of the season, John Dunne said he's progressed nicely. But to finally have time to sit back, you know, relax a little, then get back to work, how much more efficient do you think he can be as a blocker? Yeah, I mean it comes down to when he when he understands how to be a technician with his footwork and know how to put it all together on impact. I mean, everything else is there. I mean, when you do it right and you're as aggressive and as a finisher as

he is, that's scary proposition. And you know coach Done knows that, and that's gonna be a big thing. I know that for sure. I know guys that just are extremely good. You know, they they're strong at the attack, this and that, but they don't understand how to get their feet go to their opponent get their footwork down so they can put it all together. And when they do that, those guys become elite. And it took me

a while to to to figure that out. I mean, I thought I was a good blocker when I came out, but quite honestly, I was. I was still behind because I didn't know the technique. And then I learned it my first year, second year, and the third year. All of a sudden, now you start understanding. And of course as we move forward, that was the master plan to be that guy, because that gave me the extra years of my career that I wanted. What do you like

most about Joe Douglas right now? And this is really a start, uh the first professional offseason as general manager. He got hired in June, and I know a lot of people had problems with the timing externally, but Joe has one on record to say it actually helped me coming in because I was able to evaluate everything that was going on for five six months, put my processes in place. And now here's his first true offseason at GM. I mean, listen, you know he's never uh had a

draft class that he could call his own. I mean, this is his first opportunity. He has worked his way up from ground zero all the way up to where he is now. He learned as an area scout, he learned as a as a now a regional scout. Then he moved the national and then he got the different areas.

And then you talk about the teams he was with and their success, you know, being around, uh, the Baltimore Ravens and the success they had there, and then bouncing over to the Philadelphia Eagles, learning from Howie Roseman and all those kind of guys in those pieces, and now you're finally ready and you're right. At the time, it was scary what what the Jets were gonna do with the general managup is, But the fact they we're able

to get a guy like him was a bonus. I think a lot of people's mindset and thought process changed when they actually got him, Like, all right, it wasn't as bad as we thought. Is this guy is gonna be a legit guy. So now I'm excited to see how he goes. And I think the one thing where we've always kind of been pressed upon him is he's about, you know, inside out, building a team inside out, So like I'm all about that because I think, you know, there's a lot of skilled players out there that can

help football teams. But if you don't have the interior guys, a defensive line, the offensive lineman to get those guys where they need to go, whether it's through holes as a back, or protection to get balls to the receiver or the the help protect the quarterback, you're out. You're out of luck. So, uh we saw a little movement obviously last year with some guys bringing some lineman in

Lewis and whatnot. Uh So, I think this is gonna be, you know, with this draft heavy with a lot of guys like that, and of course there are some free agents. You know, I don't know how the money's gonna be spent. You know, if I'm the general manager or I'm going to use the the chunk of the change if I can have got an interior guy. There's shirts out there, there's guys where you know, are are really good guys.

You just gotta do your homework. You know, some guys are coming off injuries, some guys you know, where are they and it doesn't make it reasonable enough to spend money. And of course you know with free agency guys, we all know, we you tend to overspend because you know, it's just like those guys are kind of available, you're putting spots, and uh, that's the importance of a free agency, right it is you can get sometimes you get a starter in that second tier, that initial wave. You have

to overspend otherwise you're not getting. And those skill positions sometimes are a little easier to find. That when you're talking about Lyneman being across the league, that there's not many good ones, let alone the depth those guys get

sucked up. So you don't really find guys hanging around, right you got you know, even free agency, it is like, man, if you can't hang on them, then you must have a really good line if you can't hang onto a guy, right So, and that really is the problem the issue. So they normally have something like a nagging injury or this and that, and they're just trying to cut bait on that salary. So you just got to be I've seen it go bad sometimes and and obviously you know

Joe's seen at all. I mean he's been at those those things when those free agency times have gone, and those teams that he's with had to get those kind of linemen. He's got that experience watching it and it will be key obviously with free agency wherever they go, and of course in the draft as well. You cover college football throughout the season, so just keeping keeping this on the offensive line. Talk how many of the top

tackles have you seen live? Between Jedrick Wills out of Alabama, Tristan Worfs Iowa, McKay Beckton out of Louisville, and then Andrew Thomas out of Georgia. I saw all of them. I saw Thomas twice this year. I saw him last year twice. Um worse Okay, I saw him uh twice as well this year and last year. He's my favorite guy.

I like him not. Thomas to me is just a road grade animal and that's great, but you I do need a guy that is smooth all the way around, and I just feel like, you know that worse is I'm excited to see him works at the COM mean, there's some athletic dudes and that are gonna be doing these drills. You know. Beckton's kind of that wow, like we've never seen a guy this big. You know, what is it? What's his met six? I mean that's you know, you think about it like it's kind of like a

pony show kind of thing. But he's like a legit dude who's very athletic as well basketball player, uh coming up. I mean he did all kinds of athletic stuff like off the field, like people would talk about at campus at Lowellville and uh, you know, again, he's kind of one of those I don't know if he's a wild card because there's there's proven things that he's done. But I know, I don't know. I just I've seen him. I've seen him literally like just fold dudes up and finished.

I mean, so he's got that in him. But he's in that. He's in that world, man. I mean, he's got really good tape. And then you know you talked about the the Bama tackle. I mean those guys are good Jones from Houston. Guys got like I've seen him twice this year as well. Guys got like I think, started every game in a Houston uniform. And the experience is awesome. And you can get guys that played a lot of games. Um, you see Austin Jackson at all

out of USC. Austin Jackson did not have USC. UM I had USC when we had a doga came out, so I got to see a little bit of him. So, you know, again I won't dig too deep on those tab but those guys you're all talking about are in the conversation. Uh potentially for the Jets and a lot of other teams that they those guys may get, you know, pushed up a little higher. What do you like about

works that makes him your top guy or your favorite? Well, you know, any time you're coming from IHA, you're you're coming from a program that technically you're doing things that NFL teams doing the run game. You know, they really haven't gone towards the spread runs, so there's not a lot of the sideways, you know, not a lot of the you know, not attacking your opponent. They're still doing power runs. They're still doing uh you know, full zone

inside zone runs. You gotta literally you gotta step forward and attack guys. So technical, technically wise, he's gonna be very very strong. But athleticism, why pass set People talk about his arms are short? I don't know what short arms? I mean, you know, if you're if you never give up a sack and you're protecting the whole time, and what the heck is the difference, and he's going against epinessa is at a very highly rated defensive end for Iowa.

He's going against him every every day, right and they've had several defensive linemen come out the last couple of years that have been uh in the draft that are playing in the NFL. So I just, you know, I think all around, he's just a special player and uh, you know, he's gonna open some eyes even more at the combine because big guys doing those kind of things are are interesting. What do you think a better suited for Thomas? You mentioned he's a road grader. You like

him on the right side, Uh, yeah, I do. I mean I think works two on the right side initially, you know, yeah, uh those are guys that kind of come in and you can play that position, but you know they're not limited to the left side. But you know, Thomas is just a guy that just literally is just trying to if you're trying to improve your run game, He's gonna be a good pass protector. But occasionally he's gonna you know, those speed guys are you know, he's

gonna have to work through that, and it's fine. I mean, you know, he's done it well and he's done it poorly sometimes, but you know, you know, to me, running game is an important part of this equation too. For the Jets. When you got a guy like Bell on your team, you gotta find ways to open up whole so we can get him into the second one you

want to restricted free agents for the Jets? What jumps out at you the most because when you were talking, when you we're talking about tackles and you're seeing worse man, Maybe Thomas is potentially right tackles. Maybe the Jets resign a guy like a Calvin Beecham and short term he still is your left tackle. Who knows, but he's at u f a uh. Jordan Jenkins fifteen secs the last two years playing strong side linebacker for you. Um, he's an unrestricted free agent, Robbie Anderson, he might be the

most coveted, young, talented receiver on the market. If Amurray Cooper indeed does stay in Dallas, UM, you have a lot of interesting decisions to make in the house before you get the march A team. Well, you know, listen, you obviously you want to try to keep Robbie if you can. The market will dictate if you can or not right, because you do have other things you have to find for this football team. There are some other receivers out there that that are good, but you're talking

about youth explosiveness. You know, Joe was talking about guys that you know just play man. He's one of he fits that equation. And you know, like we talked about, there are there is gonna be a uh you know, free agency tends to overpay guys and if other teams are out there throwing around some money and he's in that upper you know, like you said, Mark Cooper is probably going back to Dallas. A J. Green is another guy up there, but you know he's coming off injury

and he's older. I mean, you know, where do you want to put your money? And I don't know if that that makes a lot of sense, uh for the Jets just just who do they just sign? Um? Yeah? Young guy? You know, maybe sometimes another place is better for a guy. I mean, I like that kid coming out of college. I really did just never really panned out in Washington whatever it maybe so you know, maybe he can come here and be a difference and you got him kind of you know, per se on the cheap,

which is good. So uh, you know, look, I I would think, I look, I'm gonna try to get Robbie back, And the only reason why I wouldn't is because someone is offering him an an outlandish contract. And you know he's gonna have a little leverage there as a player because there should be another team that that wants him to come back. Now you talk about the offensive line, I think that's a kind of uh, you know, go

as it as it comes up kind of thing. Let's see what the free agency is available, let's go through the draft, and then what can we accumulate from there. And now we'll start saying, Okay, well you know why we gotta keep this guy. We don't have to keep this guy. And I think with Calvin Beacham, that's where you are. Good player. You know you can count on this and that, but you know you may be able

to get something a little different moving forward. So you know, I think there's no rush on him in the in the in the fact that you do have some other things happening before before and see what happens, but that line is gonna look a lot different no matter what happens. Uh. Lastly, I just wanted to get your thoughts on the wide receiver position because that's been the talk at Indie here for a couple of days. This is one of the

most deep talented classes that I can remember. You're talking about guys like Jerry, Judy, Henry Ruggs, um Ceedee, Lamb. He might be the first wide receiver that comes off the board. You could have as many as six, maybe seven receivers first round. I don't know, they're talking about twenty receivers in the first three rounds as we're talking. Pull up the list of those guys that are here on the combine. Yeah, because but I'll talk about the guy.

I think the consensus who I've talked to here at the combine, I think everybody thinks that Judy is the guy. They think that he's the primed receiver that if they were to throw their their pick at and they need a receiver in that market, will get him. Lamb is another guy. Again, he's very close, he's very talented, and you know, if that's the guy that they end up getting because he's going, then they'd be very happy with him as well. Um, it is a deep class. Uh.

You know, there's multiple receivers. You know, l s U has a pretty good receiver. He's not bad. I mean, you know, I think we saw a lot of him this year and I'm telling you now he's pretty too. He can dominate from the inside too. Yeah you know that that's that's impressive. So that this list is alphabetical, unfortunately, but like Brandon Aiyu popular name. Okay, so here's so like a guy like uh, you know Limboden. Okay, he

let me scan this for you. So second, so like a guy like Limbo and you wouldn't think, but he's like one of the more dynamic players in the SEC. Think about an atom Rando. Well that kind of a player, a guy like um, you know, a Tasom Hill kind of guy. He can do that. He's gonna be a guy that I think may go higher than people think because he's got that skill set that he can run, passing and really catch. So that that those are things are good. Uh. We talked about the Chase clay pool

pool kid from Notre Dame. Weighed in at two or thirty eight pounds. Starting to look like a hybrid kind of tight end guy. So now you're talking about man, we can have him. Put him in the slot and he could be super dangerous. He's a mismatch problem if a linebacker has to cover him game over, and then the safety is a challenge because he's a bigger guy height and weight wise. Uh. The guy from Minnesota Johnson Tyler Johnson to me, I think that dude is he's

a really really good player. I think he's underrated. Uh, he's as smooth as they came. I watched him in that Bowl game against All Burn and he just annihilated them. They couldn't cover him. And I think he's a guy to me where he goes. Uh, he is gonna be a guy to to to think about moving forward for there. So those are a couple of guys I think off the top of my head. I like den Denzel Min's Baylor kid. Yeah he's a good Yeah, he's a he's got great size, he's a great blocker, and he's a

big time playmaker down the field. People Jones, kJ Hamler and Michael Pittman. I mean, there's like a stupid amount of James prochet s m U you don't need probably went in front of and that guy had a special season. Jalen reagor TC. You had a good year. So it's deep, and you know how it starts. You know, one guy goes and then all of a sudden, the dominos go oh and you know, I mean here's another guy Colorado. You know, he probably thinks he's the best receiver, uh

coming out of the draft. So look, if you need one, and the Jets are in the market for it potentially, but you're here in Judy's the top of this. Yeah, that I would say the consensus ceedee lamb maybe right yeah right there. Yeah, and then you know, look, it could be it could be any of those guys going next. And we're hearing Tyreek Hill comparisons for uh yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's another burner. Yeah, another burner. So

you know you've got speed guys that can catch. You know, look, man, if you're looking for explosive weapons, this is the year to get it. And if you're looking for some tackles, alignment guys that you know, you feel good, you think you think ultimately the Jets data loving that will be the decision. Attackle or receiver. Yeah, I'm taking I'm taking alignments you are. That's just me. But I would especially given the depth of this class, right, yeah, like that.

Do you think that play he's a factor? Of course, I think so. Yeah. I think if you do your homework, you know, you get your scouts, you can get a receiver in a second, real productive guy. I hope, Yeah, I think you can. I mean absolutely. Alright, well man, thanks for coming on the podcast here in India. Everything here, Yeah, this is great. Yeah, and we didn't even get to the three cone number that I had, but we'll put it out there. But that's a six nine three cone

um that's I mean, yeah, google it. It's it's like it's like impressive. I mean, receiver. If receivers likes if if receivers get six nine four, like, teams will be really happy about that. Think about that. I did it at two d seventy pounds, so that's like, you know, next level stuff. It's a lead stuff. But I trained, I trained for those things, you know, like, oh, well didn't match up the way, but well yeah, you know, sometimes it does. But I was able to just prepare

myself for that and ultimately help me DK metcalf. I'm just using this as an example because he had a bad one. You didn't even touch me and his shuttle is a four or five. That's a that's a disgrace. But he's a good player. Well, he is a good player. Do you see the comparison here on the tweet? Wow, speaking of the underwear Olympics and one of the worst. That all right, that's how we're ending the Official Jets

Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. You think you think he's going to be back in New England bonus bonus content. I think, yeah, okay, so what are you hearing. I think there's a legitimate chance, stronger than people think that he may leave. I initially thought that that's not happening. But there's a there's a there's a small bug in the air that says that there potentially is a team in the market for him. And I'm say, hey, get out, get out of town. If that's good, you know, for

for for Jets fans, right, let's go take that. Take that. But if that bug's right there, there may be one team in the market. And uh, I think he's he's thinking long and hard about it. And if the Patriots, obviously you're gonna do everything you can they keep them, but there may be one alright, miss no charge. I don't think it's gonna be charges all right. No mystery is how we end here on the Official Jets Podcast

powered by Amazon Web Services. Anthony, thanks a lot and good luck to your thanks and your tight ends.