Welcome to the official podcast. We are presented by Win Bett. Betty is a team sport Butt Together. It went by Eric Ellen in the studio, joined by a familiar face that is Legit Douzable my partner and crying throughout the regular season. It's been too long? How are you deuced? It's been forever. I thought you forgot about me, man and heard from me. You know what I'm saying that all seasons here you don't know me anymore. Oh, it's all love, dudes, I know what. I'm just messing with you. Man.
It's good. It's good to see you again. Man, it's been it's been a while. What combine was the last time we saw you, I believe? Yeah, like two ships passing in a night. Uh, speaking of the Combine, Man, you work as hard as anybody in terms of your analysis. Some former players just rely on their past experiences, but you're always in the film room. What's it been like for you professionally as far as getting ready for this draft? I was just talking about this to somebody the other
day and I just don't remember the draft taking this long? Now? Is it because I've been more invested in it this year? Right? Because I was at the Singer Bowl, I was at the Combine, and this is the first time in my career. Why I went to both of those events, right, So it seems like it's it's just been ages since the Combine.
It seems like it's been ages since the Singer Bowl, And I think that is kind of I want to say it's it's worn on me, but it's just like I can't remember even when I was playing at the drop off from like the Combine to Draft day was this long. So it's just it's been a long process. But we're here. He I can't complaining. We are finally here. Um, the Jets to pivotal picks and top ten and four in the top forty. So um, it's a good day
to be a Jet man. O. Hey, no doubt about a great transition man, A prose prol what's the best case scenario for the Jets at the top of the draft the way you're viewing it right now, because I don't remember a top three with as much uncertainty as we're facing now in recent time. Yeah, and you said it perfectly right there, e A. I think the Jets are in the tricky spot because if you're a top two team picking, you kind of get what you want, kind of get what you had your eyes at out on.
If you're picking seven through ten, the board has been laid, the foundation has been laid for you, so you know where you're going from there. But when you're picking that four to six range, it's a if he placed to be and am not even gonna lie because the draft board, as you said, right, this is the first time in recent years that the draft board we don't know how it's gonna fall at one, two or three. I think a month or two ago everybody was certain that Aidan
Hudgerson would be the number one overall pick. But it seems like Trayvon Walker has picked up some steam. And so I mean, even though in the combine people assume that I Ki was going to be the number one pick, and then there was Evan Neil was gonna be the number one pick. So I can't remember a draft to your point where there was this much uncertainty. So if you're the Jets, like you know, you're sitting back and waiting like, well, we have our draft board, right, and
every team as a draft board. If Vicky Kana, you're Number one guy, and maybe it's followed by Aiden Hutchinson, and maybe it's came on timbodoreor Jermaine Johnson or Sauce Conner. It's just it's just a weird spot to be in because I would just break it down like this, this draft has no sure fire superstars, but there's really good quality depth. There's gonna be some real good quality starters
in this draft. But the only thing is, when you're picking in the top five, you you want game changers, right, you want guys that are, you know, foundational pieces that you can build around. And this draft just doesn't have that. So if you're the Jets and you're sitting at the draft board in the top four, it just depends on how the first three picks fall. And that's why I say it's a really tricky spot to be in. But if you're Joe d how are you hoping that board falls?
Getting back to the best case scenario, because imagine Walker and Hutchinson before, it seems likely that they will be two of the top three picks, but we don't know at this point of course, what are you hoping for?
If you're Joe d Well, honestly, you're open at Aidan Hutchinson falls the because you can take him in the r V. He's the most pro ready defensive end in this draft, and I think Jermaine Johnson is right behind him, and I think Jermaine has a little bit higher upside because he just learned how to pass us this last year with Aidan Hutcherson is kind of like a finished product, you know what you're gonna get. He's gonna come in probably be an eight to ten SAC guy, and people
kind of snub their nose at that. But I'm like, there's not a lot of players in the NFL constantly doing that. You're in the year out and I believe Aidan Hutchinson will do that. But I mean the chances of him falling before are I would say, literally slim to none. Right, Okay, right Johnson, Right, you You've got very vocal about that. Yeah. So, I mean, and it seems like he's picking up steam now, which is crazy. Right.
I've been talking about this guy since before the Singer Bowl, and you know, during the Singing Bowl I said he wouldn't get out of the pick twenty, Like, I don't think he'd make it the twenty. Now I don't know if he makes it to pick ten. Honestly, um, just because he's aced every part of the draft process, you know,
just from transferring. I mean just his background story, right, and you talk about the adversity he's went through, going to junior college, then going to Georgia, then playing at Georgia where we saw that how deep the Georgia defense was. He decided to bet on himself, leave go to a team for one year in Florida State, and all he did was become the a SEC defensive player of the year in that time, right, And people are saying, well,
he didn't do this at Georgia. Well, if you look at all the players at Georgia and the defensive alignment more specifically, they all didn't have guddy numbers because they rotate so often. Because that defense and more specifically that defensive line is so deep that guys usually only stay on the field for four to five play. So I think Jemaine Johnson showed that he could leave a team where he was playing about thirty percent of the snaps, go to another team and uptick to sixty plus percent
of the snaps. So now you're not you're not worried about durability, and you see the effort that he plays with efforts never gonna be an issue with this guy. Again, he's just coming into his own as a pass rusher. Put on a pass rush display at the Singer Bowl. I think he just fits the mantra of all gastel brakes. I think it's a guy that Joe d and you know, Robert Solo really would like to have. But I think they would like to have him more at ten than at four. I just don't think he lasts till pick
number ten. Yeah, and that's what you're talking about with that tricky situation. Now. I wanted to ask you the way you view it though, if you stay it for is it offensive linement or edge rusher? Because I wanted to get your thoughts on Sauce Gardner, who most people have a top their cornerback boards. Uh Stingley is a very good player. He's just been a little bit banged up and we'll have to see what happens. A lot of people think that that that that that guy could
be a star though. You know, but with that being said, do you see it as old a lineman or edge at four? Yeah? So I'll break it down like this and then going into your dB conversation, you could reteam
me up and we'll talk about that. UM. To me, I think it with Joe d and just knowing how he's he's wired and how he's done past draft, it's gonna be best player available now if Ikey Kandu is there, I think Jody doesn't care what everybody's saying in that world room, He's gonna turn that card in for Ikey Kuanu because if he has him as his number one overall player. UM. Granted, you know there's uncertainty, what what what would happen technically with George fan or McKay Beckton.
George Fannons going into the last year off his deal, McKay Beckton has had the injuries. UM. I just think it's hard pressed for a GM to give up on his number one pick from two years ago, a top ten pick at that UM. But if I Quanner is there and the way that Joe Deeve preaches always building in the trenches right especially offensive line, the defensive line,
I'm talking about getting great value. If if he's your number one over our player, you get him at four, that's admits value and you just have to figure out what to do with your offensive line later. Right, you have a trade ship now and either McKay Beckton or George Fann going into their last year. There's the deal. Because I Kandu. If you take him at the number four spot, he's gonna start from day one, and more
specifically probably at right tackle. Um. He's a guy that can play right guard, left guard, right tackle, left tackle, played all of it at NC State. So I think if he's there that they're gonna run, run to the podium and take him. The only time they wouldn't run to the podium is if Aidan Hudgerson was able to fall to four. And I just don't foresee that happening. And so there's the dudes. Lean here a couple of minutes into the podcast, ikey a Kwanu out of NC State.
Wouldn't that be something? Now if you go quanto at four and well, let's retreat a little bit and talk about the cornerback Sauce Gardner nine career interceptions, never gave up a touchdown during college. He plays with spice on the outside, he can win on third down. Was playing man press coverage. We mentioned stingtly before banged up at Alice. You after a productive, ultra productive freshman year where you could have predicted that this guy was gonna be a
first round pick a couple of games into his college. Yeah. Yeah. So with that being said, Sauce Gardener, while you like him as a player, four might be too high for you. Yeah. I think any corner or safety or any secondary. Remember, I just don't see the Jets, just knowing the brash No One coach slo and his philosophy on defense, I don't foresee them taking the corner in the top ten
or in the first round, honestly, period. If you just look at the history of this defense, going back to Gus Bradley, going back to coach Quinn, you know when he left and went to Atlanta, they don't take corners specifically high in this draft. If you look at it um in San Francisco when Robert Salo was there, they were able to get a guy like Richard Servant towards the back end of his career, right, they were able to fill take a filler on a guy like Jason Barette.
They got Kawan Williams, who was an undrafted free agent, but They got him from the Browns right, Emanuel Moseley, undrafted free agent. That's how they He just built this team. It's always been built from the front back right, because this defense is predicated off the defensive line creating having So even though Sauce Garner I love him, he's a great prospect, right, you talked to about all the attributes. Right,
hasn't given up a touchdown in his college career. A guy who likes to be on the island and man press. So I think he's better suited to go to the Giants Acrosstown team to a Wink Martindale scheme where he's gonna blitz and keep his corners on the island. We're in this defense. On first and second down, we're gonna be a little bit more zone happy, right, We're gonna be more cover three, Cover two. Then on third down we're gonna blitz and go man. So that's where he
would flourish. I think Stingley would actually be a better fit because he's shown better in zone coverages as far as his an aptitude and as far as knowing what you know receiving receiving routes are coming, which uh combination routes are coming and knowing how to attack certain zone coverages, and he's he's probably a better guy as far as taking the ball when it's in the air, especially going up and getting it at a high point. The thing about him is, like you talked about right e, he
hasn't been healthy. We haven't seen a healthy Derek Stingley since twenty nineteen, and at times he looks uninterested on film. I don't know if that's because he's so talented and doesn't take his best at times to you know, lock people up. But there's certain scouts and talented valuays that said that he doesn't have alpha mentality, and most top
corners have that alpha mentality. But if you get that twenty nineteen Derek Stingley, you get the best dB in the draft, not just the best corner, the best dB in the draft. But that's a big gift because we haven't seen that guy since twenty nineteen. Not going back and watching this film from where he missed about three games and then some of them uhe where he missed
the last nine with the Liz Frank injury. It wasn't as bad as I originally thought it was, right, but it just wasn't as dominant as we saw in the twenty nineteen. He's got a great feel for the game, natural instincts. You know, some people would say is Stingley's boomer bus, Like this guy could be a multi time Pro Bowl player and All Pro player and you know, or you might be getting guys a little bit banged up here early in his career. And we'll see what happens.
All right, So at ten, give me like three players. If the Jets stay there, you have your eyes on, well one Jermaine Johnson, who we talked about earlier. I mean, I think the brass is praying, like on their knees, praying that he falls at ten. I just don't foresee it happening. But you know, this is the one draft where there's so much uncertainty. We really truly don't know how the top three are gonna pan out. It could
go edge top three. Then what do you do. Do you not take Jermaine at four or do you try to still wait to get him at tend because if there, if it goes edge edge edge, I can tell you for a certainty he's most likely not getting to pick ten. Right and then even George carl Office or somebody might actually come in top ten behind him. Also because you look at Seattle in Atlanta, they're looking for edge rush
as well too, and maybe even the Giants. I think they're gonna take Sauce Conner with their second pick, but I would say he's he's a player. I'm looking at Jermaine Johnson if he was happened to slip to you know, number ten. Spout another guy, Jamie Jamison Williams to me was my number one receiver in this class before the injury. He was the only receiver I felt comfortable taking in the top ten before the injury. Now I don't have
any receipre as a top ten pick. But if you know the medicals come back, the Jets staff, the medical staff feels comfortable enough or they see that, you know this guy is gonna recover a c l s aren't what they used to be. A e A guys are coming back quicker from those. If they feel comfortable enough where this guys may be ready to go in October, then I think he adds an element to this team that they need on offense. If you look at what the Dests trying to do in the all season and
trading for Tyreek Hill. Jamison Williams is in that same bill, right. He puts the fear of God and men at the safety position, right, and that helps with the run game because you have to keep the safeties back, so now you have a lighter box and anybody that knows this Michael for offense, he truly wants to run the football and then set everything up off of that. So it's
gonna help you with the run game. But it's also gonna help you with Zach Wilson in that big arm being able to take those shots down the field, and that's gonna open the game up underneath for Elijah Moore, for Corey Davis, for the two tight ends Tyler Conklin and c j Usama. So I think Jamison Williams would be a really nice piece for the Jets. And then the last person I would say, and I'm not a huge fan of this one, e A, but just to help the offense out, I'm gonna go Drake London right um.
Also a guy that's a guy that's not on currently on the roster right now with bigger frame, guy, contested jump ball guy, really good intermediate route running sometimes that's a really good job because he has the back the basketball background as far as being a power forward on on little comeback rounds of shielding that body, making it big so the dB can't play through him, and being able to catch the ball. So that's another element that they just don't have a bigger receiver that can go
up and get the ball. So those would be the three guys I would say the number ten by their connor and play. But knowing Joe D, honestly, I would not be surprised if they try to trade back at that tense spot because I don't have any of those receivers as a top ten player in the draft. It remains there. They're not running, they're sprinting up to the podium to turn that in, especially if they don't go
edge at number four. But if Jermaine is gone and they go O line and before I think Joe D is gonna do, it's best to try to trade back there. The excitement of Las Vegas to on line sports betting, getting on all your favorite teams, players and sports from boostep partlays to live in game odds on every major sport. They have what you need to win sign up today to receive a special offer risk free one thousand down the sports bet download the wind Beat up now or visit w y n and bet dot com to start
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you could definitely see that happening. This draft is all about depth, and you talked about the lack of star power up top, especially if the Jets are sitting there at ten and they do have a cluster of players, going back would be advantageous for a team that has multiple needs. So you were talking big time. They're about receivers. You covered Jamison Williams. You talked about Drake London. The Jets have capital to trade for an established veteran. They
attempted the trade for Tyree Hill as you punch. We know for a fact Deebo Samuel has said that he wants to be traded. John Lynch the forty Niners, GM says he can't ever imagine moving Deebo Samuel. So I just want to ask you two things. If you're Joe d do you make the call to check in with John Lynch? And part B of that would be okay. If he's ever willing to listen to an offer, what would you offer, uh, if you chose to go in
that direction. Yeah, yeah. I love it when GMS or personnel come out and say I couldn't imagine ever, you know, trading this player away until they heir offer. They love right essentially, especially if a player is this gruntal and has really put his foot in the ground and said, I'm not playing for you guys anymore. So make this trade happen. That way, we can you know, leave amicably. You can get some draft capital and I can go where I want to go and get paid. And we've seen,
you know, over over the years. You know, unfortunately it happened to I say unfortunately, but maybe fortunately it happened with the Jets and Jamal Adams. He wanted out, They ended up having the trade and they got great value back phone. We saw what to rekill. Like I believe the Christian Kirk deal made him. I would say expendable, but it made it where the price tag was so you know crazy that Kansas City was like, well, we can't pay him. We're paying Patrick Mahomes. So they decided
to let him go get a trade. Davante Adams the same thing, right, he wanted his he wanted his way out. He wanted to get back closer to home, get with his best friend Derek Carr, and forced his way out. So we kind of see a power shift, right, kind of like the NBA where players have kind of been able to force they were at their way out, and it's been unique to watch. I love it as an ex player, but just knowing the owners and how they think,
I don't know how much locker it's gonna last. Right, So it's John Lynch and the brass in San Francisco willing to really, like, you know, put their foot down and be like, well, you're gonna play for us, and you're not playing for anybody. With a young quarterback going into year two that you traded so much draft capital way for, he's already come out and say, Jimmy Garoppolo, that's potentially we keep him. I think that's because if you do lose a Deebo, Samuel, you need a Ventuan quarterback.
You can't just throw trade Lands out there into that fire with no surefire, you know, star power on the outside to get him, you know, for him to get the ball to to make plays. So I just think that people will say, you know, the front Niners have the ball in their court. I just think they're up against time, honestly, because if Deebo is dead set or not being there, We've seen it time and time again. Stars in this league will force their way out. Now.
I almost certainly believe that Joe d is already checked in with the San Francisco forty Niners. Uh, the Deaths are one of the few teams that have the draft capital in the cash bad cap space to take him. To answer your second part e, A, what would I be willing to give give up to get debo? Um, I've heard some obnoxious things out there on Twitter LANDA like, yeah, man,
you got an interesting take. You gotta because I really want you to get into it, because yeah, you you gotta break down something that you hit up before war. I'm interrupting you a little bit, but I really like the way you've looked at this because you talk about the offense that is predicated on the run game, and I get into specifics about the money, which you'll get into. Yeah, so um talking about what the Jets were willing to give up to get tyrekall right, I believe it was
the two second round picks. Was the thirty five, third, eight, sixty nine picks. I think they were receiving a fourth round pick back right, So essentially it's almost kind of like a wash. It's like two second round picks essentially, because you're getting Tyreek Hill and you're getting a fourth round pick back. Um, Tyreek Hills are all pro. Right, he's been doing it since. Believe he's twenty nine years old, but again still puts the fear of God and in
the defensive corners, coordinators, and safeties. So Deebo Samuel, right, if you look at his career, had a pretty good rookie season, banged up his second year, didn't play a lot uh, and had an elite year last year. So I'm sorry, I'm not paying what I was paying for Tarik Yell for Deebo Samuel one. He is twenty six years old and that's still young, but way he plays the game and the injury history he's had going back
even to college. That would make me fearful of paying a guy twenty eight meal, which essentially he's kind of asking for because there was rumors he wanted to be the highest non paid quarterback, highest paid non quarterback in the NFL. So you're looking at somewhere upwards to eight million dollars a year, And I just went, I mean, so I'm trading away the number ten pick, which I know Joe d that's not even on the table. That's
ridiculous to even think about. Um. But not only trading that away, but also having to pay a guy twenty five million that has any injury history. Now, Granted, I love Deebo. I love the mentality he brings. He literally was carrying that San Francisco offense last year throughout the playoffs because that defense was was stifling other teams. But they really weren't doing too much on office until Deebo
Samuel got Samuel got the ball in his hand. But I just don't feel comfortable giving up draft capitable of a top ten pick for a player that's not as good as a Tyreek Kill who's probably a number three or four receiver in the NFL. UM Deebo Samuels is a really good piece on offense. You know, they call him wide back, play receiver and running back as well. Year. But yeah, I didn't understand that at all either, because
Eliza Mitchell was playing well in games. I believe I did the research on this, and while I was breaking down film last year, I want to say in games that he rushed for over ninety yards, I think they were like seven and one or eight and one. So I don't understand how he wasn't the bell count. Now he got banged up a few games. I think he only played twelve games last year, not including the playoffs.
But like any time he was in there and they fed him the ball, good things happened for them, right, And then it actually helped Deebo, you know, with with some of you know, him getting open and Kyle Shanahan finding unique ways to get him the ball in open space. Um, but yeah, he kind of became their main back down the stretch. And I didn't get that because I thought Elijah More was really their bell cow and and carried
them a lot of a lot of games. Like you didn't see it on the satsue, but he would have like twenty something carries a game and average close to four yards and all those games where they were winning games. So, um, I get why Debo doesn't want to be, you know, technically a white back. There's a lot of wear and tearing a guy, especially with the injury history that he has.
But that's what makes him unique also, right, That's also one of his selling points in negotiations that I do this at running back, I do this that receiver, you get the balls to me in space. I'm a yat king. Like. I believe he's one of the top guys in yat yardage in the NFL. So I mean to me him saying he doesn't want to do that. Now, Granted he was on a good trajectory before week eleven when they
started giving them more carriages in the backfield. Um, I still, I still believe you had one over fourteen hundred yards receiving, which is still very elite. Right. But I just think what makes him so unique is the mentality and how tough he plays. Right, he plays like a defensive player on offense. Yeah, that so so. So to answer your question when I would come out, yeah yeah, uh like I don't I couldn't give them to choose because essentially
that's what Tireko was going for. I would say a second and the third I would feel comfortable giving up because again, you're not just giving up the draft capital. You have to pay a guy, you know, top two or three receiver of money right now when you trade for him. So I mean, you're not just giving up the jack capital. You gotta give up. That's that's the thing.
It's not. It's not apples to apples, because when you do bring a guy in, you know, potentially we're guessing here, we're hypothesizing that, hey, this guy wants more money, all right. So a lot of times when people are unhappy in a certain place, it's more than just the way they're using me. It might come down to financial money money. So, dudes, straight up, do you think Samuel is moved draft weekend? Or you think they sit tight and try to work
something out. I'm not talking I'm not even talking about the Jets, I'm talking about the whole league in anybody. Yeah, I think if it doesn't happen this weekend, it's gonna be tough for San Fran to do it, right, because now everybody's called your bluff and now, like you said, you wanted you know, this pick or that pick for Deebo Samuel. Now you're talking about picks, right, So our team is willing to give up a top tier pick
in the future for Deebo Samuel. Maybe maybe not. But once your bluff has been called and you you haven't been able to trade him, then his market value is not as great, okay, because teams to feel those knees via the draft. Now, again, there's no certified superstars in this draft, but if we look at it as a whole, right, all the players that are I want to say this scron because I was a player, All these players that aren't happy with their current contract situation is a better
political way to say it. Most of those guys were drafted in the second or third round. They weren't first round picks Deebo Samuel, DK metcalf A, J Brown, Terry mccorin which the third round pick. So there's great value in getting a guy in the second or third a round, especially in this receiver class. This is a deep receiver class. Again, there's not gonna be no surefire exit ex receivers, which
is the number one receiver coming out Day one. There's no Jamaar Chases, right, there's no Julios, there's no a j. Green's. But there's gonna be some good number two receivers that have potential to maybe elevate themselves into a number one. So if a team decided to take a guy in the second round, maybe he could be the next Devo, Maybe he could be the next d K, Maybe he could be the next you know, Terry mcclaurin. So I
think teams are looking at it that way. So I think San Francisco John Lynch can say, and I love John Lynch. I spent my last year in San Francisco. I love him and Cole. He could say all he wants about he don't foresee them traded. If Debo doesn't want to be there, and he's ready to really sit down and hold out, then you're up against the eight bol because again, you got a young quarterback that you traded away a lot of draft capital for and you
gotta get him some help weapons. So if Dee deebo holds out and Trey Linz doesn't have him on the outside, you better, you better, damn. I'm sure I have somebody that can feel that void or at nobody gonna be in San Francisco in a couple of years. Yeah, you can understand both sides of the coin and both sides
of the ledger. If you're a receiver or you are any players outperformed where you were drafted and you're a couple of years into the league, you're looking at the money being thrown around and said, hey, where is mine? But you also get it from a team's perspective by saying, hey, you're under contract. You're under contract for us for a couple more years. We don't have incentive to do this. So it's just an interesting dynamic that not just the forty niners have to work through a lot of teams.
And you mentioned those various receivers. That's why a lot of these receivers remain in our headlines every day because we're wondering what's the next move? Are they going to sign a contract? Potentially will guys still be on the move here up until the draft? Win? But there's not live in New Jersey and they're bringing the excitement of the win Las Vegas to online sports betting, getting on all your favorite teams players in sports from boost parlays
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the older at president of New Jersey. If you're someone you know has a gambling problem called one seven zero or seven one one seven. Okay, before we get to some exciting news about you, real quick, how would you rate the Jets needs in order as you head to the draft their needs? This is a good question, man. I've gotten this question a lot on Twitter, and my my list might surprise people, but I think these are
underlying lists. So I think one obviously is EDG rush right, And honestly, the way I've heard Joe d talk the last couple of days, it seems like he's really banking on Carl lost In being a hundred percent healthy when the season starts, right and they've added you know, Jacob Martin in the off season from the Texans. Who's gonna help on special teams and help on third down pass rush? John Franklin Myers will be able to kick inside more
on third downs as a pass for US specialist. Uh, everybody's saying that he could move inside right away on first and second down. You guys were tripping. They paid him money to play on the outside. The defense was terrible last year, but if John Franklin Myers was playing inside would have been even worse. So John frank and Meyers stifles tight ends in the run game. We saw
that versus Tennessee Titans, we saw versus Houston Texans. Like, he's there, big end in this position in this defensive scheme. I played that position. You gotta have a bigger end to really set that edge in this defense, right, So John Flanking Myers was gonna be on the outside. I think it's a situation where Robert Sale would like to have what he had in San Francisco. They paid the year Dfour the year before Bosa, same situation, Carl Lawson,
they and they both end up getting hurt. Then they draft a guy like a Jermaine Johnson or Nick Bosa, like they did in San Francisco. They were able to bring d Ford along slowly. He didn't have to take all the reps right away. He was able to be a third down specialist and then sub let Eric Armstead and also Nick Boso on some on some reps on first and second down. I think that's the situation that you know, Robert Sale would love to have if he's able to get a guy like a Dreama and Johnson
or even an in later on. If carl Aston is a hundred percent healthy, he stays in on first and second down, being able to sublet him with a Hono v Katie or Boy Mafe maybe in the second round. So I think defensive then is the first one. Second one is safety. Now I know the Jets have signed a ton, I mean eric a ton of safeties. This aw Sason. I mean talking about Will Parks coming back and signing him with la Marcus Joiner signing back. I
think Elijah Riley got tendered, uh exclusive rights center came back. Also, Jason Pennock is gonna be there. Aston Davis is gonna be there. Um Marcel Harris from Florida Forts has experienced at safety and linebacker. But I think he'll be more of a linebacker in the Jets game. I just think they need to pair somebody with Jordan's whitehead, right. A guy like Lewis seemed to me if he falls to his second round, it's a match made in heaven. Guy
has great range. Literally plays at the speed that he ran into Combine at the sub four four and hits people at that speed. Like when he hits people, they go back at four sub four four speed. Uh a, And it's the guy that has good range. Now the secondary coach is gonna have the table in some of his aggression, right, because there's a lot of interceptions he left on the field because he was going for the big hit. But to me, he has the biggest upside
at the safety position in this draft. I think he can end up being the best safety in this draft. When it's all set and done. Um yeah, you like
the second you like? The value of the second tier safeties in the draft goes, Yeah, it goes beyond scene, And to me, I think the second tier value and they say second tier, but honestly, I put Louis Scene kind of right there with uh well, Kyle Hamilton's right, I don't think he's that far of a drop off from Kyle him, and he's definitely more athletic than him. Guys like Jalen pet guy like Jakwan Bursker, guy like Dax Hill, Um, these guys have great value in the
second round. Like Dax Hill is more of a you know, a nickel guy. He can play in the slot that the Jets kind of already have too many nickels if you ask me. D J. Reid has nickel experience, but will be on the outside. You know, Michael Carter, Javlyn Gidrey have have nickel experience. Brendon Echo has nickel experience. I think the Jets was set at the nickel spots.
So Daks Hill, even though he can play deep middle safety, he made his way in Michigan by playing in the slot and taking away the slot receiver, so I think he's more of a slot guy. Same thing with Jalen Petrie. I think Jakuan Bursker to me is a really good all around good safety, a guy that can play in the box. The guy can play in the meet, middle, deep half of of the field. He's just an all around good player. Just turn on that was constentate from
last year. He was the best player on that field. So I mean, like I said, there's great value in that second tier at the safety position, with guys like Jalen Petrie, Um Jaquan Burskert lewis seen who may not even make it out of the first round. I've been told some teams really like him, Dax Hill. There's there's great value in that second tier right there. Yeah. So
see you're ranking edge first and then safety. Even though the Jets have strength and numbers right now, you'd like to see somebody else in for the Green and White. The value might match perfectly for them at the top of the second round. Yeah, and then I would have to go receiver, right And I only say that because I think, uh, they'll take a look at safety in the second round. I think they'll take a look at receiver in the second round, depending how the draft board
falls out. And I think there's great value. Like we talked about earlier eight, there's no receiver coming in from Day one that's gonna be out of this rookie class that's gonna be a X receiver, a true number one receiver. So there's great value in that second round. We just spoke about the receivers that are up for contracts. Right, all of them were in second and third round. Terry mcclaurin, DK Metcalf Debo, Samuel's A J. Brown. These were second
and third round picks. So a guy like Jalen Torbert or a guy like you know, Christian Watson from North Dakota State, there's great value in getting those guys in the second round. These are bigger receivers, or even a guy like George Piggins who had Uh who had some injuries that Georgia, but came back for the National Championship and look good and really killed the combin. I think he ran a lot faster than most people. Dottie would has sure hands as a contested fifty jump guy, and
Uh it's also a really good intermediate route runners. So I think there's great value and the guy like Jalen tober Uh, Kristen Watson, or even George Piggins getting them in the second round. Yeah, I got my eyes on Johan Dotson ode Penn State. I don't know, but but but they all can't go in the first round either. So to your point, there's could be some quality pass catchers there at the top of the second Okay, So
it's to add to that point. I think receiver is the one position that's coming into the league more ready than any other position. So I think teams value and understand that. And again, we just talked about the second and third round receivers up for contracts next year that they're holding out right now. So I think if you look at that as a whole, like we can get a guy in the second round, he could be our number two receiver and maybe elevate itself up to a
number one after year two or year three. Okay, I love it. It was great catching off with you. What's going on with you professionally? Man? It seems like every time we pop up, dude has got something else working. Uh. Let's start with I Am Athlete Tonight. Yeah, just announced it. Uh, I think it was Monday yesterday, Yeah, oh, Monday that. Um. I will be the new host of I Am Athlete Tonight on Mad Dog Radio Serious XM Channel eighty two. So seven to nine pm every day we will have
a show. Uh. Some of my co host will be Shady McCoy, pac Man Jones, Brandon Marshall, Antoine Walker, Brandon Flowers. UM. So we're gonna have a good time. It's gonna be a real locker room field, right, It's gonna be different from most sports shows. We'll talk sports topics, but we're gonna take you inside the locker room, onto the field, inside the basketball arena onside, and into the baseball field and really give you that interior in an in room
locker field. Um, things that you may not know or how we feel from past experience. Because everybody that's coming on the show as a host or cost that's played at least ten years in their respective field. So it's gonna be a good time again. Seven to nine pm, Serious XM, Mad Dog Radio. I am Athlete tonight. Make sure you gotta tune in. And that's every day Monday through Friday, Monday through Friday, every day seven to nine pm Eastern. Dude. That is big. We're excited about that.
So I'll have Serious all primed and ready to go on the eight two in the car when we're taking our family drives there in the early evening. Finally, what do you got going for the draft? Yeah? Some for
the Draft. I'll be doing the draft show for s N y UM, so I'll be there Thursday as we kick off, you know, the draft seven to eight p m. Pre show for the draft, and we're doing the post show twelve the twelve thirty close out show on Sunday for s n Y as well six pm on s n Y six and seven closing out the draft for the Jets and what they did or didn't do during
the draft. Also, I'll be on Good Morning Football the two days after the draft to give us anopsis of what I thought, what teams you know did a really good job in draft and the draft, and which teams didn't do a good job in the draft. So Good Morning Football. I believe it's Tuesday, March three, if I'm not mistaken, I'll be on there Peter and everybody else and my guys, you know, Kate and and shregs. Uh those are those are my family that those are my
family members. Sm Y is in the same building as they take Good Morning Football. So we're gonna have a good time on there. Man. Man, I love it, Uh well deserved. You put in the work. People are putting me on various platforms all over the place. No surprise there, I got two final ones in their rapid fire your favorite Jets offseason addition, to date has been who Lincoln Thomlinson. Secondly, the draft is always about the quarterback dominos. How many
quarterbacks going round one? Two? Dudes? Enjoy? Yeah, go ahead. I think it's gonna be Kenny Pickett and Maligue Willis. Okay, good stuff. And it's gonna be interesting to see if one of those, uh comment number ten because maybe a team's looking for a quarterback and they're calling the Jets. Who knows. We'll have to see Pitts. Keep eye on Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Stiller. All right, buddy, great senior, Alright, appreciate the
