Jets Training Camp Preview with Offensive Coordinator Mike LaFleur (7/26)

air travel. We made everyone come out to us, which they had their own problems in the airport, but uh, it was good. We we had every single day we were with our kids at some point and just watched them run around and doing the stuff you don't get to do over the next six months. What is vacation

like for an offensive coordinator? From the moment the end of mandatory mini camp before now, you know, everyone kind of does a little bit different, but I for for me, I mean, You're you're gonna be thinking about ball at some point right through that break, and that's sometimes that's you know, I think we're you're gonna come up with some of your your best ideas or what you think

is gonna be your best ideas. But at the same time, I'm a big family guy, and um, I want to be present for my family, you know, so you just when you're there, you've got to be there because again for when we get back, you know, tomorrow and throughout training camp in the season, you don't get to see him very often, and we do see him, You've got a lot on your mind, you know, So in that month, I I we all as coaches, we owe it to our family, We owe it to our closest friends to

to to be there, to be present, and uh, to just enjoy our our time that that we have with them in the summer. So after you enjoyed maybe a day on the water and you and Matt I put the kids to bed and maybe you're having an adult beverage, do you guys share some football stories and some football knowledge. We do, uh, probably not as much during the summer

as what people would think. We we talk all the time during the season, and then we're obviously only basically talking about football, checking in on our kids, but but talking about football. But we had one um one day this uh this summer where we him and I put in quite a bit of time, you know, of of ball more so than we probably ever have in the summer, which was needed. We just were cross checking some things. Um. But also you know, we we we do play them

a little bit in in mid season. Um. You obviously want them to win every single game except for the game that you have to play him and um, unfortunately but fortunately we get to play him this year, you know so, but it was good. We we again we don't try to talk too much football around the family, but we we did get sneak away for a good sixth dight hour sessions. So who set that up? The sixth date hour session? Was that coming from? You are

a big brother? We we both. I mean you just kind of as as uh the off season when you when you get back going in January February after the season, Um, you just have a laundry list of stuff and you just kind of keep checking those boxes as the season goes or as the off season goes on. Um, and you know he's gonna watch us, We're gonna watch them, and then you're gonna have questions, but you'd rather do

it in person as a post over the phone. So it was just kind of was one of those things that uh, you know, we both wanted to get together. We both had our questions, wanted to just cross check what you know, we've been studying, what they've been audience, and see what we could integrate within our offenses. Is that going to be agonizing for the family when you

guys do match up in the regular season. Was different last year because hey, training camp practices and friendly stuff, we're learning from each other, and then we have a preseason game, right my Yeah, my mom that was the most relaxed she's ever been for for a game between uh, you know, with with Matt on one side and myself on the other. But it's, um, it's it's not real fun for the family. Um. Some people have a little bit more fun with it than others. My mom does

not like it at all. But we're kind of getting used to it now. You know. In two thousands seventeen, uh, my first year in San Francisco, he was with the Rams, so we played him twice that year eighteen he went to Tennessee. We didn't have to play him, and then um,

nineteen uh, we played him twice. We played him in the thick of the regular season, and then we played him in the NFC Championship and those were especially that NFC Championship game that was that was pretty rough on my on my mom and some of the people in the family. But it is what it is. It's it's you know, in this case, the jetspers the Packers and you know we're Um, you wouldn't want any other way, So it'll it'll be fun. Let's talk about this offense

a little bit. You've always said anybody who talks, even going back to San Francisco and Kyle Shanahan, that it's predicated on running the football. When you hear that, how accurate is that? And why does it set everything up? Why does it set the wheels in motion? I mean, it just makes you not one dimensional, you know. So you always want to get the ground game going. You get the ground game going, you control the clock a little bit, you keep the defense off the field, you

keep them fresh, and it's just playing playing team ball. Um, some weeks you're gonna be able to run the ball better than other weeks, a because the scheme be because maybe some of the players on the other side are pretty damn good at stopping the run. But um, like you said, it does set everything up. If you can get a run game going, all of a sudden, the

defense has a trigger a little bit more. And now you're opening up that space, uh, you know, behind the linebackers in front of you know, the safeties in the corners to hit some of those explosive intermediate plays and you know, to get to get guys running out in space and you make a guy miss and that's where those exposives, you know, come about. It's kind of an old school philosophy though, right because I think when people

think of this offense, they think passed first. Um, yeah, you have the ability to do yeah you you you never want to go in like we want to run the ball, we also want to throw the ball. We want to be explosive in both facets of it. Um. Again, it's just trying not to be one dimensional. You know. We all feel like we can get on the board and drop up and scheme up some really good place.

It's but at the same time, when you're throwing the ball, the offensive line has to block a very good defensive line. The receivers have to separate, you know, against good secondary, the tight ends against safeties. A lot of things have to happen right. Uh, you know for a pass game to be successful in the run game, yeah, a lot

of things have to happen right too. But uh, there's a there's a few variables that are taken out of it, you know, uh, because the backside might miss a block, but it's outside zone of the front side, and if the first combination gets are blocked, it really didn't even matter what happened on the backside, you know. So there's just uh, there's less variables, but equally as hard to

uh have success. Zach Wilson's athleticism, How does that change what you do as a play caller because he's so comfortable on the move, Because you have coach guys who are a little bit less mobile, want to live more so in the pocket. But here's here's a guy who we saw that a little bit in his first year, and I know that we're going to continue to see that his career goes on. Yeah, you know, there's he there's no secret that when when he goes off schedule,

he's pretty talented. And so you want to you want to be able to build um not necessarily going off schedule. You want him to do that organically, right, like I just want to play breaks down. If if I call a bad play, don't make a bad play worse. So if that means you go off schedule and go make a play, go make a play. If that means throw it away, throw it away. You gotta do what you gotta do in that moment. And that's that's just playing sports.

That's playing quarterback. Um. But like you said, I mean you want to be able to also design plays. Obviously the easy ones are the keepers or the nakeds, the boots what people call them. But there's also different ways to get him on the edge. Um. You know, we uh we mess with some wrinkles this offseason and the o t as we did a lot of studying on on some things to to kind of, you know, get him off the spot a little bit, if you will, uh to to let him do some things that are

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And we'll get to the skills of players here in a minute. But what do you think about that Gary combination Interior and lank In Tomlinson. Let's start with him because you were with him in San Francisco. Why why was that such a huge sign? He um because he shows up every single day. Uh, you know, it's there's it's known just the track record of of you know how he's out playing every single song. He doesn't miss. But what people don't see is, uh, he doesn't miss

practices either. He is always available. And not only is he available, he's very talented at what he does. He brings the right mindset every day on and off the field. He's a great locker room guy. Um. And on top of it, you know, uh, when we got him in San Francisco, he's with Detroit before that, Um, he didn't have a ton of success in terms of a lot of wins. Detroit wasn't winning a lot, and then we

got to San Francisco. We weren't winning a lot early on, and he saw a for lack of better term, or a rebuilding San Francisco from where we were to uh, you know where they've brought San Francisco. Now, he's been to two NFC Championship games. He's been to one Super Bowl. Uh. So anytime you can bring guys in like that that have that have one and been in those locker rooms, that have won at a high level, it's only going to help everybody else because he's been there and he's

done that. How unique is it in terms of being a young player. Elijah Vera Tucker his attitude where he played pretty well first season. You guys said, hey, we're going out free Acacly, we're gonna bring it like in towns And oh, by the way, we wouldn't mind you moving over to right guard, and he says, yeah, I'll

definitely move over. And what can I learn from him? Yeah, No, that's totally And that's you know when we when we kind of asked him, were brought up the idea, it's it's just a bt S mentality, just kind of yeah, I'm I'm good coach, whatever you need, you know, And it's true. And you know, you want to keep guys as much in the same position as possible, no doubt, just so they get comfortable. But that's that's not always

the reality. There's so many injuries, there's so much stuff that happens that you are going to get shuffled around a little bit. And um, for the reason of moving him over the right to bring in Lake and Um, it just made sense. And you know, to to bring in a guy like Lake in and have a BT going in that second year, Um, you couldn't be I know myself and and John Benton, you couldn't be as excited to to have that that guard tandem there and

kind of governing in the middle. I mean, it's it's as cool of a guard center guard combination that that I personally have been around. Yeah, and people are gonna be asking you a lot of questions this summer, especially early in the summer about what's happening at tackle. What do you think the competition is going to do for both of these guys. George Fan you know he wants to stay at left tackle. McKay Beckton was clear here in the spring that he wants he's hearing the criticisms outside.

He wants people to eat their words. Yeah, no, it's um And I've I've answered this before in terms of you know, um kind of how that's all gonna play out. It'll play itself out just organically. We're gonna have a lot of practice out there. UM. You know, they'll be moving around. Uh. Like we've said, George's earned the right to uh to play some left tackle and to show what he can do. He had a he had a tremendous year last year. He only got better as the

year went on. He was playing his best ball in that back half of the year. Um. He approaches every day like a true professional. UM. And you know, so he's earned that right and get McKay back will be will be huge. You know. Um, it was unfortunate how it went down last year in that first game and just you know, it's a that's a that's a large man with a lower body injury. It's you and I

don't won't understand like he's he's he's that big, you know. Uh, so we don't know how it's gonna be coming back from one of those injuries when you're when you are, um the size he is. But he's feeling better. Um, just excited to get him going. You know. In August we talked in Mobile, Alabama at the Senior Bowl. Uh,

totally different landscape now, especially for your young quarterback. Can you talk about what is around him some of the offseason additions and how that is going to possibly lead him to having maybe the mentality of that I don't have to do too much here, just play within the system because we got a lot of guys who can do things with the full totally you know. And that's

that's how you want all quarterbacks to be. That. You don't want them to feel like they have to do everything, because once you start pressing and trying to do stuff, Um, that's when bad stuff a lot of times happen. Some good stuff will happen, but but a lot of times bad stuff will happen. Uh. You want him to play within the offense, whatever offense that is, and like I said, when you, um, when when I call the bad play, don't make a bad play worse. And so what does

that mean? It means you go make the best play for the Jets at that time. And Zach, you can do that at a very high level. When I do call those bad plays. Sometimes hopefully I do call a bad play. So you can just go go do that. But like I said, just answer your question. He you know, he's got some pieces around him that that Joe and his staff it did an awesome job of of adding for for this organization, and um, you know it's only gonna help him on the field. What about the tight

end position? Complete overhaul? There such an important position for you guys in San Francisco previously when you bring in guys like you, Zama, you mentioned Cockland before your draft Rocker. Uh, what can the tight end not only do for a quarterback,

but do for a quarterback in your offense? Yeah, I mean it's you know, they the easy thing is the security blanket, right but uh uh, that's you know, you've got those bigger bodies kind of over the middle when you're when you're looking deep and then you're checking that ball down. Uh, you're getting it too, you know, some of these bigger bodies, they're surehanded. The cool part about the guys that we brought in, you know, starting with c J again very similar to Lake in Um, he

saw it from the ground up in Cincinnati. Uh, you know, obviously going to the Super Bowl last year. So you're bringing in a guy that we've heard was a great locker room guy. That was probably an understatement. He is a phenomenal locker room guy. Um. So it's it's just been awesome to get to know him and and you know, to to watch him within this offense canna be pretty fun.

And again, just being in a locker room that went to a super Bowl, bringing in that knowledge of of those big games and and what it's gonna take week in and week out. Um, that's gonna be so valuable for so many young guys that we have on this team. And then you look at Conklind to be able to bring into which was incredible by again by Joe and his staff. Uh. The thing about Conklind and Ill again, I'll relate it to the Lake and he he shows up every day, he's I think he's missed I think

one game in four years. Uh, he was out there every single day in O t A s like he he doesn't get nicked up, you know, knock on wood, but like just his body, the way he trains whatnot. Um. I truly believe his best days are ahead of him too. You know, he saw his first two years it didn't play as much at tight end, and then the third year had a pretty good year. Then last year kind

of exploded in terms of production and all that. I'm not going to put a number or anything like that on what his production will be, but I just I believe his best days are ahead. He just works too hard at it, he cares too much about it, and he's talented. Usama he played with the second year quarterback last year and Joe Burrow. I'm not comparents act to Joe Burrow, nor would that be fair, but is it kind of cool from your perspective that, Yeah, we got a veteran, we got a character guy, we got a

guy with postseason experience. We've seen he's a guy who's seen it turned around from the last team he's at. And oh, by the way, he had experienced with he experienced success with a young core. Yeah, no, there's no doubt about it, you know. I mean, he's he's seen a lot of quarterbacks in these years there just being in the league as long as he has, not that he's been in too long, but he's you know, seeing

the quarterback carousel there in Cincinnati a little bit. Now they got the stability they got with with Joe Um and I'm sure he saw the development from year one to year two. Um. He's a football guy. So even though he was with Cincinnati, he still knew what was going on with the Jets. He's just there's just guys that know what's going on around the league and so Um, albeit he wasn't in the in the in the building last year, he knows, uh what a rookie quarterback goes through.

He knows what Zach went through. And you know, like you just said, I mean he saw what Joe did in the second year. Not trying to, like you said, compare or anything like that, but it'll be Um, he'll be a good sounding board and good guidance for for Zach in the second year. What do you think of the pieces that receiver if health is there, Corey Davis, Elijah Moore, we saw his production, you guys, draft Garrett Wilson, Uh Town overall, Brexon Burials resigns. Jeff Smith quietly really

had a nice spring. Denzel Man's still here as well. I know you guys thought took some steps forwards throughout the spring, and we can go on a little bit. Yeah. No, it's uh, it's it's a cool group. It's a talented group. It's a young group. You know, outside of really uh

Corey and Braxton. Uh, there hasn't been a lot of games played there, and that's uh, you know, at that position, coaching receivers for two years, there's there's something to be said about the amount of time spent on on that field. You just it's so different than the college game. Yeah, it's just it's so different that the amount of bump man and man covers that you're gonna see every single Sunday, it takes time and and just uh in reps um.

So it'll be fun to watch these guys grow. Uh. We're gonna lean on Braxton and Corey in terms of just getting the young guys up to speed. Even though Elijah is going to a second year, he still missed a handful of games last year and we all saw, you know, how he kind of took off there in the middle of the year and it was unfortunate what happened. He's still a young football player, guarantee young football or

mimsy's a young football player. Um, Jeff Smith was a he's a quarterback, you know, up until he gets to Boston College and you know he Um he played some good ball first last year and you're you know, alluded to it in the spring. I thought I thought he had the uh, the best spring out of probably anyone on our offense. Um. I'm excited to watch him carry that over into training camp. So um. You know again,

it's a fun group. It's a young group. They're hungry, uh and uh it's it's gonna be fun to watch the girl. How would you characterize yourself as a play class? Try to put our guys in the best position to be successful. You know. Um, I'd like to think I'm aggressive. I want to be more aggressive, but again I've learned that through Um. You know the guy that's probably taught me the most in this business, and Kyle Shanahan. You know, Uh, he's as aggressive as they come. Um, he's not gonna stop.

And you know he's even with one of the better defenses in football in San Francisco last few years. He's gonna try to go score every single time they got the ball. And you're gonna do that by being aggressive, getting the uh um, the ball in your playmaker's hands and letting him go play. So that's what I took from Kyle, amongst many other things, but that's that's one thing that really stands out as a play calls for him,

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president of New Jersey. If you're someone you know has a gambling problem called one hundred two seven zero seven one one seven zick, where did he grow most? If you had to point to one thing last year and now after the spring, what are you guys really gonna be honing in with him here throughout his second training camp because he does his feet underneath him now yeah,

no he Uh. What's cool about going in the second training camp is now the unknown of what NFL football is like that he he knows he played a season last year. I'll be missed the four games. He's gone through a training camp, he's gone through a preseason, So you don't have to even teach that or watch him organically kind of grow into that. He he knows what to expect when he steps on it on that grass, you know, on on Wednesday. Uh. So that's awesome. So

what what can you really focus in on? You can focus in on the job that needs to be done for his position and for for him, um being able to have this offseason to go through our offense again, to clean a lot of things up. You know, that's every sit, whether you're the best offense or the worst offense, you're always find just trying to find ways to clean up your own offense. Add do it take away, Uh, you know, adapt to what the defenses around the league

are doing. Uh. We feel like we did that this this offseason. We feel like he has a good grasp on it. For him, it's just again just getting out there and getting those reps. Um. We we've put a big emphasis on just getting our eyes in the right spot, not worrying about the eight guys over the left when

the concept is over to our right. We have to focus on what's going on over here, and you know, going through your progression and and um, not having to know too much, getting your eyes in the right speed, uh spot, having nice active feet and going to playing football. That speaks to sensatiable appetite. He can't get enough right. So it's that it's a hard for you as a coach, or is it hard processing at times for him? Because

he does want to understand everything. Where you're saying, that's a coach, you don't have to take it all in because if it's like this over here, you can let it go right and and that's where you're right. He he wants to know everything. But what I do believe he has learned over this last year. Is that is knowing everything, knowing that I don't need to worry about this side of the field with this particular concept, you know, we we call it across the board reads within our system,

Green Bay, l A, San Francisco, the Dolphins, probably Cincinnati. UM, where you're not even you're not there's nothing that could even take you to the other side of a progression. You're always starting one side, no matter what the coverage is, and then your eyes will dictate and when guys are covered to go across the board, and then that stuff is gonna matter. But you're gonna throw an open holes. You don't even know who's under You're just throwing an

open holes and you're playing fast. And you've had so many reps at it through O t A s, through training camp, through the preseason, through all the walkthroughs that are so important for a quarterback and an offense and a defense and a team uh to get meaningful reps.

You know, so UM, I do believe that is he is trying to soak it all in, but he's understood that that is what's soaking it all in is is not worrying about so much a pet peeve of mine is when people chart passes during training camp and they'll say, wow, Wilson was seven eight and seven on seven and he was nine at sixteen, and team periods and things like that, because my argument on that, my counter has always been, you don't know what you guys are doing as far

as installation as they're concerned. You don't know what the defense might be thrown at him. Is a different look. With that being said, can you talk about the situations that you guys do out here on the practice field, because sometimes we might be watching a team period it's third long, and you might be telling them I don't know, you might be saying, hey, go past the sticks, no matter what. It's third, Nate, you gotta get you gotta

get a fetially. You know, there's there's that that that question could be answering about one hour, because I mean, there's there's so much that goes into a practice and and prepping your quarterbacks to be prepared to play on Sundays when it gets the regacine. But you're also you're not only just trying to prep them, You're you're trying to put the receivers in different spots to give them different looks to be able to again check the boxes

that they're going through. All of it old line, you're taking guys in, you're taking guys out, You're running different choice and option routes with guys that haven't had haven't had those options yet with Zach or with the other quarterbacks. So that's going to dictate, you know, the completion percentage, I think when when ultimately, yeah, she want a high completion percentage right like organically over the month or five weeks of training camp, Like the higher it is, the better.

Obviously he's playing. But there's so many variables that we don't really look at it day to day. You're just looking at the play. Is the quarterback making the best decision for that play? And there were times last year when he would make a mistake. I'd call the same play a few plays there, knowing that it's probably not gonna be very good against the defense. I just want to see if he's gonna make my bad play worse, you know, and and any of the quarterbacks just to

see if they're learning on the fly as well. So there's there's times out there you're not really concerned what the defense is doing, unlike on Sundays when we play Baltimore, We're always gonna be concerned what the defense is doing. When we go against our defense, there's gonna be plays. They are gonna be absolute dead plays, And I don't really care. I want to see hither, check it down, go off schedule, throw the ball away, do do whatever's best.

That's gonna play into the completion percentage that might not be as good that day. You know. So you got a new head coach in the division, Mike McDaniel. Yeah, how do you think he's gonna do? And something struck me when we were in Mobile. Robert was asked about him and he raved about him. Um, you were on that staff with him, and I think you would call him a good friend. Yeah, what is he gonna bring to the table? He's uh, Mike is uh kind of

well documented Mike McDaniels. Uh, he's gonna be Mike. And Um, I've been with Mike, uh since two thousand fourteen. Before that, he was with my brother, um two thousand eight on through Houston, Washington. So I've known Mike for you know, fourteen fifteen years. Um, one of my best friends, not just in this in this profession, but in life he is such a good UH coach. That's that's an understatement. Um, the players respect him. He's gonna be who he is

within his own personality every single day. He's never gonna change. But he's a good human. He was such a good UH friend to have in the building. Again, going back to two thousand fourteen, every year I thought, we just got closer and closer to our time in San Francisco. Um, you know it. Uh, it wasn't fun leaving him because he was I was so close with him, but it was just, you know, obviously time to move on. The great opportunity, and it was his time to move on.

And what a great opportunity he has. So I love Mike. I wish him, you know, nothing but the best. Everyone roots for Mike, you know. Unfortunately he is in our division. So just like the Packers, I hope they win every game, but versus I hope Miami. I hope Miami wins every game except for you know, if it affects the Jets. So are two games and any other game that that it would affect us pissing wound up in the division, because yeah, it's great, your buddy, It's got a high

coaching job and well deserved. But I'm not even just thinking that you've got to compete against him. I'm thinking in terms of you guys have might have similar thoughts on personnel systems, so down the line free agency and draft, you know that all No, that's no, it's no. It's a good question because that that is true. You know, like that did when he got the job, You're not thinking about the division. You're just so so happy for him and his wife, Katie and their family, UM, that

that he's getting this opportunity. So you didn't even care where it was. But then once you know, you processed all that, like we can't talk about free agency, we can't talk about the draft. We really can't even talk too much about schemes because we are in the division, you know, and and that is what it is or where this is the Jets and we're worried about the Jets. UM. It was very similar to two thousand uh twenty in San Francisco because we played Green Bay in the NFC Championship.

We both had high expectations going into that twenty year, So Matt and I didn't talk too much about free agency and some of the draft guys and all that didn't even talk too much scheme that year. Um so even though we were in the same division, we just felt like we're going to see each other, you know, somewhere in the playoffs. Um so yeah, I mean that that is kind of what it is. But but ultimately, oh well, it doesn't matter. Again, I hope, I hope

they have so much success. Except for the two that we have. We had Brick in your seat. We also had brand Boyer And I'm asking all the coordinators this, do you have a favorite training camp memory, something that stands out or experience, weather good or bad. Player brought up two days or basically three days to practicing, And yeah, those those two have. Um, those those guys have different experiences. All.

You know, they played a lot of years and they played before there were a lot of the rules that we have now. Um to you know, putting me on the spot favorite training camp moment, I'm not I'm not even gonna answer that. Last year was really cool going to Green Bay, Um, you know, just being able to to practice in that environment, going against a team that had been the NFC Championship two years in a row. So for a very very young team and a rookie quarterback and a new staff to be able to kind

of just see how things are done there. Uh, that was really cool. And you know, we had a lot of family and stuff there, and again you don't have that that pressure of an actual regular season game. But I'll go back to two thousand fourteen, my first year in a training camp. You know, you don't really know what to expect. Although Matt had been in the in in the league for eight years, so you kind of that was all I knew. Uh, But I mean we were doing special teams. I was at Cleveland, we were

doing special teams walk through. Tell what I felt was nine thirty ten o'clock at night, uh, in in the I mean, guys can't even keep their eyes open. I couldn't keep my eyes up. I mean, those days were long. And then you're turning around, You're you're getting in bed by you know, say, midnight, and you're back in the office at five am. And that was five weeks. And fast forward to two thousand twenty two, and how different the league is with the training camp and in the

amount of time that you have with these guys. I mean, the vets around the league are out of the building by seven seven fifteen. It's and I'm not saying one's better than the other. It's just so different. So I do you know, as as new QCs come and go, I always like to remind them. Even I'm not one of the old guys. But in two thousand fourteen, it was a lot different than uh than it is now. And what keeps you going? What's the must drink your coffee guy? I'm a coffee guy. I'm a coffee guy.

I'm not I don't know. I just ordered a new, uh new Juror coffee machine. I just ordered it two days ago. So salez always I've always had one at home. Um, I'm a huge coffee guy. I love love coffee, love love good coffee. And uh so we ordered a machine. Salad had one, but it's like getting maintenance or whatever. I didn't want to mess with it. He has his door shut a lot, so that that's going to ruin my coffee and take. So I just said, you know what, I'm gonna order my own. So I got one. Comment

is supposed to be here this weekend. I don't wanna have to come down to get a brew. Come on down. It's it's getting jury. It's good coffee. Thanks, appreciate it. Yeah,