Jets-Packers Game Preview (12/20)

of Sam Donald. And really this part of the season for fans, when the team is eliminated from playoff contention, that's really what you want to see is your rookie quarterback, the guy that you believe will lead this franchise to winning records for the years to come. For one as well,

a lot of buzz in the stadium Saturday night. And I don't think it necessarily started that way, but it all goes back to him sitting out a few weeks over a month where he didn't see any game action with that strain right foot, came back against the Buffalo Bills, did his damage late, becoming the youngest quarterback in NFL history to lead a game winning Dry leads the Jets to come from behind victory. That had to do wonders

first confidence. The following week against the Houston Texans, I know a lot of people rightfully saw we're wondering what was the Jets offense going to be able to do against the Texans defense? Because your minus Isaiah Crowl obviously balal poles by in on injur reserve for a while Quincy and Noonwall was down. You're shuffling a lot of

pieces up front along that offensive line. But I think Donald turned in the best effort so far of his young NFL career thirty eight to fifty three, two touchdowns. He also used his feet very well six rushes thirty five yards UM and uh, Josh mccowll told me after the game that you knew about his athletic ability, but now he's starting to win in the pocket, and that was always the question with any of these young guys, and Donald's starting to show a lot of positive signs.

So for me, I'm kind of disappointed that the season is gonna end in two weeks. Sure, but it is nice to close on a high nose ye. But I'm just saying he's going to play the way that he has been. Yeah, But my point is I just want this kid to keep on playing. Oh yeah, for sure. And it's been well documented the time between the end

of this season and the beginning of next season. Really where O t A s begin in the spring is where Donald will see the most growth, or where you would assume most quarterbacks see the most growth from their rookie year to their sophomore year. But Saturday was the third time this season that Sam Donald has had a rating of one hundred or more. You think about Week six against the Colts, debatably one of the better performances

for Samulans. I thought this one was more impressive because I thought maybe while the offensive line played very well against the Texans, I thought the Jets had everything going offensively against the Colts. And I don't think the Colts played awfully well that game. So I would just say that to me, Uh, he has completion percentage wasn't as high as it was against the Colts, but I think

overall he was doing better things. I agree. I think that you mentioned it that Donald looked more comfortable in the pocket and he was more decisive, and what I really like there's one play in particular where he gets the snack, immediately realizes that no one's really open. You only need the X amount of yards to get the first out. Immediately tucked and Rand got the first out. That was it. I think it was probably like third and five or so, and he tucked it. Ran slid

popped up that I was it. And I think what you're seeing is Donald look a lot more comfortable at the line of scrimmage pre snap, understanding what exactly he wants to do, what defense is met, what the defense is trying to do. And Sam Donald said it himself. Taking a couple of weeks off, although it was because of an unfortunate reason with the strain right foot, eventually ended up helping him because it helped him slow the

game down. Slow his mind now a little bit while learning from Josh McCown, not that he hasn't been learning, but he sees it through different lens, watching Josh McCown lead the starting off as lead the first team offense and practice and walk through and everything that he does.

And frankly, I'm excited to see what Sam Donald does, not only this weekend against the Packers, but then up in Foxborough against Tom Brady and the Patriots, because that is probably one of the tougher places to play in the NFL. I don't think the Patriots lost on this year. I was just looking at it. The Atriots or nine and five as we enter what week sixteen in the National Football League season, there are three and five on the road, So yeah, ge lot, they don't lose too

much there. But that's why I don't think the New England Patriots are going to the Super Bowl this year. Green's because they're gonna have to possibly play on the road at least twice. I don't see the Patriots going to the super Bowl. But the spot is not about completely about the Patriots. I would just just a small portion.

I would say home in a waste splits really have my attention right now because the Jets have a hell of an opportunity to win this week, and I know a lot of fans are still focusing on the two thousand nineteen draft. I say, don't worry about that whether you have the number three overall selection or which the

Jets would have at the season end of today. But oh, by the way, the season does that today, so they don't have the number three overall selection, so you're probably gonna have anywhere between what three and time or one in time or whatever. I don't know. My point, you're gonna have a good pick at the top of the first round. And I want to see a Donald win some games. He is an opportunity to win another one

this week against a struggling Green Bay Packers team. There's a five eight and one, and oh, by the way, they are zero and seven on the road in two thousand eighteen. We're gonna catch up with Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel later on in the show. He also has a podcast. You can listen to that on JS online. It is a Packers podcast, but this is the official New York Jets podcast. So we talked about

Sam Nornld, and we keep talking about it. But I wanted to be known that the Jets almost won last week's game. And I know it's a sour taste in the fans mouth. Well, maybe not the fans if they want the better draft pick. It's probably actually last week was probably the best case scenario for fans that want to see Donald play well but want the higher draft pick. But this is not about the draft and I think that's the loser's mentality. Well, that that's I think what

the pulse of most fans is right now. They want the high pick, but they want their Of course, at the end of the day, you want to have a draft pick that is higher. I mean once you get to April, but you play to win the game you have, you have your quarterback. You have your quarterback. So I don't know. I'm sure you are a big draft guy. I haven't studied too much of the draft. I watched

a lot of college football. I don't know if there's a big difference between picking three and eight and the draft buddy this year, especially considering you've got a quarterback. I think I think a couple of things. I think that one, this class as it stands is edge rusher heavy, So no, I don't think that there's a big difference. The other part is that I think a lot of fans want a high pick just as trade bait, simply as trade bait so someone will get up and we pay,

so the Jets can trade down and stockpile picks. I think that's really what it's about. We're playing fantasy football. What I would say is, what's realistic is that you do have financial flexibility. The Jets are going to add pieces around Sam Donald. That is factual. It is going to happen. How that is going to look, I don't know what positions they are. Um, if it's a guy on the line, if it's a receiver, it's a running back. They are going to add pieces around Sam Donald even

before the draft. So again we're trying to look at the draft right now, which is impossible because the draft board also will shuffle and shuffle and shuffle up and seen your bowl combine, and then there's always that late, that late riser that comes and smoking hot. Um. But again, uh, you got your quarterback. Let's see what happens. Let's see what some of the pieces that you add around him in free agency, and then we'll get to the draft

and we'll study where they're at. Yes, you want to built for the draft, but oh, by the way, you've got Sam Donald in the draft. All right, more Jets talk after we catch up with Tom Silverstein. But let's bring Tom on the pod. Delighted now to be joined by Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Tom, thanks so much for joining on the official Jets podcast, You're welcome, and Tom also has a podcast you gotta listen to that that's the Packers podcast on j S online. A

little cross promotion here on the official Jets podcasts. All podcasts are friends of each other's podcast. But let's talk about this Jets Packers matchup for a second here, because I feel like a lot of fans back in the beginning beginning of the year obviously thought of the Packers as a team that would be making the playoffs and when the NFC North are being contention for that. So what do you feel like has happened this year in Green Bay? Well, uh, BOI, where do I get started?

You know, it started with Aaron Rodgers getting hurt in the season opener and injuring his knee, and a lot of what Mike McCarthy's plans for the season got altered pretty dramatically because of the things that uh Rogers was limited to. I mean, for a while, he couldn't line up under center. He had to do everything out of the shotgun or the pistol, and so, you know, things

just kind of they just kind of struggled offensively. Then they found out you know that they really uh didn't have enough helped at wide receiver that they were playing with.

You know, they lost one of their veteran guys, Geronimoy Ellison, and then they're playing two rookies, and then you know, Jimmy Graham hasn't been as good as they thought he would be, and it's just been kind of one thing after another, and Rogers just had been playing while he's he's missing receivers that you've never seen him missed before. I mean, it's really pretty remarkable how different he is, you know, and you're used to a certain standard and

he's not hitting that standard right now. So just it's been one thing after ever, and they had a brutal schedule. They had to play four road games in five weeks, and the road games were at l a h then at New England, then they went to Seattle and then Minnesota, and they lost all of them. And they haven't went on the road all year. So it's just been one of those years where you know, it's it's it's not been pretty. And then McCarthy lost his job because of that.

Some people tom are saying that this is the first season that the Packers will not be in the playoffs with a healthy Aaron Rodgers since two thousand and eight. But what I would ask you is, is Aaron Rodgers healthy? I know he's been playing, and you mentioned he hasn't been the same guy. Do you attribute that to injury? Because just looking at it from Afar and we've seen a little bit of Aaron Rodgers when we're not covering the Jets, of course, because you're still getting a lot

of prime time exposure there in Green Bay. That his numbers haven't been awful if you consider him. I know that's not a typical a rod year in terms of completion percentage, but wow, has it really struck out to me that the interceptions are solo? What is the twenty three touchdowns and two interceptions so far this year? Well, I think that's part of the problem. Actually, he's thrown

more passes away. He's been less willing to take any chances, and I think that's what hurt his game more than anything, is that he has played it safe and he sort of I don't know if he's gotten um caught up in the whole interception thing. You know, he had this broke the record for the streak of the longest number attempts before throwing an interception. But he's not throwing guys open. He's not throwing a lot of contested balls. He's you know, scrambling a lot. He'll just bail out of the pocket

and go to the scramble play really quickly. And it's been really remarkable the number of um uh receivers that he's not throwing the ball to. You look at it and you go, Okay, that guy's open in your mind, but in his mind, he's not. And that's that's a big,

big change to what you know you're used to. And uh, there's just something you know early on it was that he wasn't happy with the offense that McCarthy's often was boring, and it wasn't doing what all the things that you know that that Sean McVeigh is doing, and um, you know Shanahan and that they had gotten stale and all of a sudden, um, they're just he just he was a different guy. And that's kind of how it's been all year. What are your thoughts on the job Mike

McCarthy did in Green Bay. Uh, we think about all the playoff appearances and he did lead the Packers to a Super Bowl championship, it seems like that relationship with Aaron Rodgers fell apart. It's at some point, But overall, what do you think about the job he did in Green Bay? And also how good of a hike coach

Mike McCarthy is. I think he did a phenomenal job and I don't think you can ever take away uh what he what he did there, which was, uh go to a Super Bowl and four n a C Championship games. And while you know his detractors will say, well, you didn't win enough super Bowls with Aaron Rodgers, Well, you know that's that's sort of uh comes with the territory. I mean, you want to say that about Sean Payton

that he hasn't won enough with Drew Brees. You know, the only guy you say is consistently one is Tom Brady, and there's just winning super Bowls is hard. McCarty's put them in the He's every single year they were in the mix. You know, they were a team that had a chance to go somewhere, you know, and it didn't happen every year. So I think he did a phenomenal job, and I think he'd be uh really solid coach for anybody.

And I think the thing that Um, the only thing I would say with the caveat is that I do think he needs to add some youth to his offensive staff. He needs to bring in some new people who can have some different ideas because he surrounded himself with a lot of the guys who are steeped in the offense that he has this matchup offense, and this offense is really good, but you have to have really good players

for it to succeed. And I think that's kind of been the issue for the Packers is that they're in a transition period. You know, they're transitioning from uh a new with a new GM, and he's brought in new players and they kind of got a little bit old and now they're they're retooling. So that that played a role in in their record this year. How would you describe Mike McCarthy's style off the field and how would you describe his offense? So, Um, he's a straight shooter.

I mean, he's he's a guy for m Pittsburgh. He's he's all Pittsburgh, you know, I mean he is he is uh very much a down to earth. Um, He's not a pretty talker or a big raw rock guy. He's really organized, he's really good at um. He loves calling plays, he loves the challenge of calling plays, and he's pretty good at it. People around here will will dispute that, but I I UM, I think the thing with his offense is it's totally a matchup offense. He does not do a lot of scheming to get people open.

He what he does is try to create one on one matchups that favor the offense. So if you have really good receivers, he's going to get one of those guys open one way or another. Are someone's going to get a one on one and then he counts on them getting open and they don't. You know, this year that hasn't happened because they've had some rookie receivers who just are still learning the offense, and so it's been a little bit different that. Man, what do you think

the Packers need as they looked at the offseason. We're gonna get to the match up here in a second. We're definitely not forgetting Jets Packers. But it's just been a fascinating their fascinating year there in Green Bay. And uh, you've been right in the midst of it. For so long time. What do you think the Packers do need

in terms of a new leader when their search begins. Uh, if Joe Philbin just finishes out here and then they start that coaching searching earnest well, the big thing is, you know, and I think every candidate they bring in you have to ask yourself, Okay, you have to ask this guy, Okay, what would you do with Aaron Rodgers right now? You know, how how would you get him playing back to the way he was playing? And you know, I would be curious to hear from all of the candidates,

especially the offensive one. You know, what, what is your offensive plan? Who do you plan on bringing in as some of your assistance? Do you have some a strong quarterbacks coach, a guy who probably has played the position, because Rogers is going to need somebody he really trusts and and respects. And are you, you know, to what degree are you gonna be able to coach him? And then you know, are you willing to uh be just

a coach? Because they have a GM and he has total say over personnel, but he doesn't have total control over the whole football operation, which is a weird setup. It's sort of like the head coach reports to the president, the GM reports to the president, and the CAP guy reports to the president. So I'm not really sure. I guess the president in charge that would be Mark Murphy. And it's it's not a great set up, and um, but you have to find out are you okay with that?

You know, will you be able to work with the GM and play his guys and and and so that's the kind of stuff that they're going to be looking at. I think they could hire an offensive or defensive guy. They've traditionally hired offensive guys. I mean, going all the way back to uh, you know, Forest, Greg Wendy and Fonte, Mike Holmgren, you know, Ray Rhodes was the one difference and we lasted one year. Mike Sherman, Mike McCarthy, So you would think they'd be after an offensive guy, but

you never know. I mean, I think they need to look at mc fangio in Chicago. He's been kicking their butt for you know, a decade, and you know, if you can't you can't beat them, join them. So I wouldn't be surprised if they take a look at him. To the time, very recently in the journal sense, and all you wrote that Mike Patton is making his case to stay on if in fact the Packers do elect to go with an offensive mind as their head coach.

Can you talk about Patton, the former Jets defensive coordinator, what he's been doing there in his first year in Green Bay, considering all those injuries on the defensive side of the ball. And then let's fast forward to Sunday, what do you expect Patton is going to throw at rookie quarterback Sam Donald. Yeah, he's done a really solid job. I mean, I don't think you could have asked for

anything more for a guy who's playing. So they've had so many injuries, and you know in on defense that on Sunday they were playing with um two rookie corners where they're two starters. Their third corner has been played only about four games. For Shot Breland, it was a veteran, but he's been hurt pretty much all year. They're playing with Tramon Williams, U career corner playing safety for the first time. And uh, they're playing with a guy they picked up off the street two weeks ago at their

nickel linebacker spot. So all that said, you know they were missing their two best defensive lineman Mike Daniels and Kenny Clark. They lost Mohammed Wilkerson at the beginning of the year. He's just put together. He's just kept them together and his third down defense has been really good. They have these moments where they play poorly, but then they always seem to get their act together. And I think he's just done a really nice job. Is he going to be sun and everything? But the kitchen sink

against Donald on Sunday? You think a lot of blitz packages, a lot of overloads. Uh, you know, that's really interesting because of course, you know, you know, you guys know him. Well, he's was uh running the Rex Ryan defense and they do blitz but he's picked up some other things along the way to uh you know, and he said that that it's being out of football for a year to give him a chance to look at some other schemes,

and he's kind of blended some things in. So, yeah, you'll see some some of those blitzes, but it won't be constant. You know, there will be times where he'll he'll drop eight guys and then other times he'll bring corner blitzes. Uh. He's he's really had to mix things up to you know, have some success with this defense. They probably won't look exactly like it did, but uh, you will see some of those blitzes they brought him against Mr Drabinsky last week, but you know, only in

a controlled manner. So the Packers are all in seven on the road. They have they have been winless on the road since nineteen seventy eight. I know the team obviously has endured a lot of difficulty this year, but can you point you You talked about the schedule strength before as far as they to brutal road schedule, but in addition to that, can you point to anything specifically and say this is why this team can't get it

done away from home. Well, aside from the Washington game, they've been in every single one of those games and they could have won every single one of those. Maybe New England was a little borderline, but they were tied in the fourth quarter, so you know, Seattle that they should have. They had a chance to win that with

a game winning drive the Rams. They were all set, they had two, two or five to go, uh, down by two, and their kick returner for some reason, decides to take it out of the end zone and flumbles and they lose the game. Then, uh, Minnesota they were right in it all the way, and Seattle they had a chance to win. So it's been like that every single week. And it was like that in Chicago they

had a chance. They tied it up late. You know, they had the ball at fift the yard line after a stop with the game tied, and Rogers overthrows two guys for sure touchdown or one of them are for sure touchdown, the other's a big game. They just can't get over the hump on these close games. And you know, these are games that Rogers wins all the time, you know, or has one all the time. You give him a chance with on the road, he's been you know, a

dagger thrower, and he's not done that year. And that's probably the biggest explanation, Tom When you look at this matchup on both sides of the ball, do you see or what are the areas in which you think that the Jets could exploit the Packers, that maybe the Packers a little less strong than years pasted. Well, you know on defense, they I mean they are they are really beat up on the defensive line. So you gotta want to try to um run on them. Their pass rushes

and't gonna be all that great. They're gonna have the blitz to create pass rush. So if you can pick up their blitzes, then you've got a chance to uh gash them pretty good. Um. Offensively, you know, they they're playing with a backup right tackle and a backup right guard, and so you know you've got to put pressure on Rogers off of that side. I mean, you've got to

take advantage of those guys. Uh. The rest of their offensive line is very good, but those two young guys on Jason Spirits at right tackle and uh Lucas Patrick at right guard, you gotta you gotta take advantage of that. Um, their best running back is out here and Jones. So you should hold them to you know, twenty four points max unless Rodgers is for some reason breaks out. But it's a winnable game for the Jets, it really is. You just as long as you know the package, don't

don't turn other teams over much. They have like seven interceptions the whole year, and uh, they're just they're just a very mediocre team right now. Last one for me, do you like what you've seen out of Sam Donald. Obviously you're you got the Packers that you're covering. You're chronicling Aaron Rodgers every step and every misstep so far in two thousand and eighteen. But the last couple of weeks, as Donald impressed you and considering it looks like Aaron

Rodgers still gonna play these final two games. Um, do you think that adds a little juice to this matchup as far as Aaron Rodgers, one of the games all time greats at the position, and the Jets rookie quarterback Sam Donald, who's starting to take some steps as his rookie year comes to a conclusion. Yeah, as much as you know, I'd like to try to build it that way, I can't really see it in any lens other than

the Packers are playing out this year. They're just they're done. Yeah, there's nothing for them to accomplish in these last two years, the last two games. There's a lot of young guys who want to be around next year, that want to you know, want to play and want to play hard, and they'll play hard for Joe Filban. They like Joe Philban a lot, but uh, you know from from uh you know, matchup, you know, getting psyched about a game

or something like that. I I don't know. I think it's they're just playing because they're professionals and that's what they do. They play. But there's like no add INCENTI. Um. As as far as Donald, I'm sure. Um. You know, I've had a chance to watch a little bit. I've seen more of uh Baker Mayfield because Cleveland is just you know, a team that I know a little bit more off. They have some Packers guys who are running

that that show. Um. But the good I've seen on Donald is you know, he's having what I think is a typical rookie year for for a quarterback, and that's not bad. You learn a lot in that first year. You know, Rogers sat for three years and didn't really get that chance to go through all the all the things that a rookie quarterback gets to go through when he plays. And so it's a really valuable time for him.

And you know, I think these last two games for him are really important because you know, he's trying to build something there. The Packers are just trying to finish out and you know, figure out where the heck they are. But I think you know, with with the Jets, I would guess that they're trying to build something for next year, even if it's with a different coach. Real quick, just bouncing off of ease topic right there before we let

you go. I know you've only seen a little bit of Sam Donald, but do you see any resemblance to Aaron Rodgers in the sense of the magical sloppiness, the ability to extend and excel all scripts. You know, that's a that's a tough question because the thing about Rogers that it developed over time. You know, his this uh scramble ability that was not who he was right in

at the beginning. Um, he sort of gave him a lot as time went on that they went to more no huddle and they gave him more freedom to do things that the line of scrimmage and his scrambling was not at the beginning, was not as big a part of his game. It's sort of developed later when he figured out, um, how much of a weapon that could be. And I think that's sort of the line that you see with like a Josh Allen um and I think

Donald's the same way. When do you use it? And you know, do you overuse it or keep it under control, and I think at this point, you know a lot of times when they're running, it's just running to get out of trouble. But soon they'll use it, you know, after a while, like Rogers, did you start to use it as a weapon. And that's kind of the transition that you started looking for. Well the time, you've been

so generous with your time. Fans can follow you at Tom Silverstein and also go to JS dot com not only just to read Tom, but he's got a blog on there. I got a podcast on there as well, podcast the Packers Podcast. We will see you at MetLife Stadium this weekend, sir, you bet your I will be there alright. Many thanks to Tom again for joining the Official Jets Podcast this week. E A. We've talked a lot about Sam Donald and for rightfully so no doubt

about it. But what do you think of the way Elia McGuire Trent Cannon played after Isaiah Krowell went on i R early last week? How do you think they played against the Texans and what would you like to see out of these guys in what is really very much so valuable reps for these guys moving forward the past the last two weeks alright, thought Jeremy bas called

a good game. There was a lot of balance out there. Um, it was nice to see Ela McGuire getting some help from his friends there on his touchdown against the Houston Tech since in the fourth quarter that TD actually gave the Jets a lead. So he's got scores in consecutive weeks, Cannon. Um, take nothing away from the reps he's getting offensively. He's

incredible on special teams. That's one of the stories that just falls under the radar because he's brought here to be a return man and all this sudden has become one of the best gunners I've seen a person this year period. Um, you know, but uh yeah, you know, those guys are getting big time reps down the stretch,

so it's very important. And I also got I also got to credit the offensive line because you got Jonathan Harrison center, you got Spencer Long, who was gonna be your center at left guar because James carpenters on inju reserve. Now Brandon Shall it probably he's gonna head to injury reserve. We're sitting here taping on uh Tuesday, and he looked like he suffered. I'm not a doctor, but they had

to bring the card out for him. I would imagine he's gonna be out for a while, so you might be dealing with Brent waal at and even if the shell injury isn't as catastrophic or as severe as we think. Two weeks two weeks, yeah, Yeah, it's a week and a half from now the season one in New England. So I gotta credit the offensive line and what the guys have done in the backfield. And there are certain pieces that we talked about adding to the mix to help Darnald out and here in the future. But there

are guys developing in front of our own eyes. Robbie Anderson and Donald has showing that chemistry the last couple of weeks. How about Chris Herndon. He looks like a big time keeper and he's got tremendous rhythm going with Sam Donald, Eli McGuire is gonna be here for a while, Trent and Cannon is gonna be here for a while. But all those reps are valuable for those guys. And then even if you do add along the offensive line, you're depth been tested here and I think the guys

have responded. I was about to look up a stat but you cut your point short. So how I was gonna look it up? Look it up? No, No, I saw something that Jordan Leggett has had like a I thought it was like six six regardless. I mean, that's not that he's over achieving, because he's not, but it's it's nice to see Jordan Legott finally touched the field and make somewhat of an impact after last year he basically didn't play the entire years rookie year was cut short. Yeah,

to me, it just goes back to Herndon. I'm not taking anything away from that. I'm not trying to like yeah, but I'm just trying to say, like, at least there's something that there's somewhat of a future there at the tight end position after being non existent for a couple of years. I would agree with that. And Donald's the two of his most impressive place against Houston is he's rolling to the right in the fourth quarter. A lot of people thought, hey, maybe he's just gonna talk it,

and he threw a touch pass to Herndon. And then he also did that in the first staff where he's rolling to his left and he throws another touch pass. So that's what we had heard about Donald for a long time, is the accuracy on the move while we're seeing more and more. And how about the design role from Jeremy bas there where he does the spin. This was early in the third quarter, and then through that twenty yard dart to Robbie Anderson spin, it's been where

he rolled to his left. Yeah, that's definitely just I. I asked Pennington about it because I can't make that call and say, hey, is that something where he reads J. J. Watt? Yeah right, yeah, yeah, Because wasn't that the first play when Brent Quality was in and one of the first that he was in. I'm not sure you might remember on that. Uh, your memory might serve you correctly. But all I'm saying is I asked Pennington because he knows

as far as the quarterback position things like that. He thinks that's a play you work on in a practice and it's a sprint left. It's a sprint left, So when you work on in a practice. What he said, and you can watch this Jetts flight plan Sunday morning, we'll be back on eleven thirty CBS, is that he does the spin in practice and then sprints left, throws it up the sideline. You do whatever you're comfortable with their and Donald probably worked on that there in a week.

Donald's accuracy on the run has very has been very impressive all year, and you saw a glimpses of it in the preseason and training camp, and to see it in the regular season with with live bullis is very nice to see him. And if you're a Judge fan, you have to be encouraged. This whole Aaron Rodgers thing is crazy that we talked to Tom about it. I almost don't not that I don't believe Tom, but I

almost don't believe Tom. I do, but I almost don't believe what is happening in Green Bay because when you think how great of a player Aaron Rodgers is, you just kind of waiting for him to erupt. I feel like you're just waiting for him to finally be Aaron Rodgers at your used to it might have Yeah, that might not be this year. Well I don't think it's gonna be this year. He could come out and throw darts all over the field, but it doesn't seem like

that's gonna happen. Um. So that was very interesting analysis because we just look at numbers greens and maybe we see a Packers game once a year or twice a year, um, when we had the fortune of being home or something like that. But he said the interception number kind of is indicative of what's going on with him because I look at him, like, guys not turning the ball over, that's doing a great job. Where Thom is saying, he's not taking any kind of chances down the field and

it's hurting this team. And he's not being decisive in the pocket. Uh, he's not trusting his reads. These are certain things that we're talking about with Sam Donald, you know, with the rookie quarterback. So I mean he is human, uh, and he did uh deal with that knee injury earlier in the year. Um. Obviously it's some uh philosophical differences with former head coach Mike McCarthy, but they had tremendous

run together no matter how it ended. But Joe fell and said this week that, hey, it's all about being professional. I would imagine the Packers come in here with the professional effort. But as Tom said, the Packers and the Jets are in completely different situations heading into Week sixteen. It's crazy to think about. But I will say that DeVante Addams a great player, so the Jets might have

their hand for he is with him. He is a great player, but I don't think he is on And then this is not a bolton board material because nobody's saying this downstairs. He is not on the same level as DeAndre Hopkins. I think DeAndre Hopkins is on another level that most people in the league. I'm saying that. But Davante Adams got yards received, he has twelve touchdowns. Yes, but I see other guys on there who I look at their numbers and I'm like, well, what's happening there? Randall,

he used to be a very productive player. That's that's very interesting to think about. And then one of your favorite names of the draft is yeah, right, he's one of the guys in there. And then they had undrafted free agent who's yeah, they got the all name team, the name team they do. And then they have Jimmy Graham. But Jimmy Graham, he's not Jimmy Graham of old No, but it's much like Rob Gronkowski. I think, um different players, but who were very good, very elite at the position

for a long time. Those guys are not what they used to be, and I think that Rogers making making the transition back to Rogers. I think Rogers can get it back. I don't know if that's going to happen Sunday or whoever they finish up with, and that's gonna be an attractive head coaching job. So I'm pretty sure the Packers have a lot of picks this year too. They have two I know they have two picks in

the first round two thousand nineteen draft. But you know, I was hoping when the schedule came out, we're gonna get a chance of seeing Mike Mohammad Wokerson and Mike Putton's defense. But obviously that hasn't happened. At disappointed season for Mo Big moa on the injury reserve. I believe, yeah, he had a leg injury pretty early all this year. But we'll get an up close to personal look at

the Packers this Sunday. I gotta reiterate that is Sunday and not Saturday because Saturday football has begune in the NFL. But Sunday, one o'clock Jets Packers Week six team. We'll see m L.