Jets Offensive Coordinator Search Update (1/18)

end of the tunnel. You know, Division around this weekend and Championship weekend, and we got a Pro Bowl weekend in between with Singer Bowl and then you know the KUTA right Super Bowl at the end. Oh man, only a few weeks away. Okay, but let's off the top talk about what's going on right here with the Jets. What were your initial reactions when you had heard that

the Jets had parted ways with offensive coordinator Michael Flour. Yeah, I mean, you hear rumors, but just from everybody I talked to, you know, it was a bit surprising, but not surprising. E A. Um, when you understand that, you know, when teams heard that the Jets may move on without Michael Floor, they might mutually part ways. There's a lot of interest from other teams. I believe I'm not mistaken.

I think he signed with the Rams already. UM, so you know he has a familiarity, UM with Sean McVeigh. You know his brother coach with him at Washington. UM. But I'm I don't get it. I would say only because it's hard as an offensive coordinator to play to make play calls, right. I don't think people understand that there's a true art to calling plays. And then when you feel like you're handicapped at times because there's an epic flow at the quarterback position, there's no continuity there.

It's tough, like where does that puts you at as far as rhythm, because everything when you call plays A is a rhythm, right, and if you've played four quarterbacks in one year, there is no rhythm. Right. It's tough. You got offer the line injuries up front. Um, you know you lose Breese Hall a VT early in the year. It's tough. Yes, the NFL you have to adjust, but

but some things are just tough to over overcome. And honestly, I thought, you know, losing Napper rest in peace to him, was a big blow to this staff, right, And I thought maybe that you know, Salo and you know, and staff would maybe bring somebody in that's a veteran, like a Kubiak or something like that, while keeping Mike Lafloor on. But it seems like the end of the day they mutually wanted to part ways and you know, best of

luck to Mike. You know, I was with Mike in two thousand seventeen with the San Franciscofore and not it's just like with Sala. Great dude, I love him and wish something but the best for him. Yeah, good dude, creative mind. He's a hard worker. I think he's gonna have success in the National Football League. We saw him have some success here. We talked about the quarterback instability. Man, nobody could have predicted that the Jets would have started

Joe flack or to start the year. He gains the Baltimore Rave and Joe Flacco ended the year and the teams starting quarterback against the Miami Dolphins. When you think about the quarterback instability, what happened though to the team down the stretch. We're not I mean, we're gonna push this thing forward, but like you mentioned that, hey, the play caller couldn't get into a rhythm, and yes, the

quarterback has so much to do with it. But what else was happening, in your eyes, is why the Jets faltered down the stretch completely dues because they didn't even score a touchdown in those final three games. Yeah, I mean, lack of productivity from the quarterback position was definitely one we all know and not to be the dead horse, and I don't even know for a legal not to say that anymore. But you know, with Zack Wilson, I think it came to a point where it was a

confidence thing. And then obviously his mechanics and everything, we're all over the place. Um, And that's something that you can't fix during the season, e ain't. That's something that you literally need a total ruby reboots in the off season to get your feet and and arms and eyes to match. Um. But you know, I think I think besides that, the one thing you gotta have in this league, he's confidence. And I think the confidence was wavering on Zach Wilson just because he had a lack of success

after being benched and coming back. And yes, people will say, you know, in a Detroit game, I think it through for over three hundred yards, But how many of that was just you know, out of the pocket right off script, not living within the offense. And we know this, We've had this discussion many times. That's not viable offense. You can't do that on a week to week basis, right, And then I think everything came to head in the

Jacksonville game. And I actually went back and watched that Jacksonville game as I was preparing UH to do the pre and post games for the wild card weekend. You know, Jacksonville played the Chargers, and like the Chargers, the Jets like to play a lot of man covers. Their corners are aggressive, they're getting your face. And whenever they did that, Trevor Lawrence had issues. But you know that's talking about something else. Getting back to zack Um first quarter XTI

didn't play that bad. Yeah, when I went back and watched it, it was the second quarter, and and then you just saw his confidence just like in wavering as incomplete passes happened. He had to throw balls away on third down because you know, the offensive line struggled a lot in that game. And we know on Thursday Night football, especially late in the season. I think that was like

Week sixteen, your body's beat up. Right, So as far as like the injuries up front, getting that continuity down, because even talking about continuity with Michael Floor, the offensive line was in flux this year. Right, We've got Max Mitchell starting half the year. You got Cedric Gwenny started half the year. You got George Fatt starting half the year at one position, right tackle. Right, we even at a v T in the beginning year starting had left tackle.

Nobody saw that coming. So it's it's it's just hard for a young quarterback, right when you feel like you're under pressure and they're like everybody's telling you you have to throw the ball at the bounce, you cannot put it in harm's way. I think he felt like he was handicapped. I don't know where his confident level was at the end of the season, and then he almost had to play in week te there Joe Flaccer right went down because Mike, you know, Mike um White was hurt.

You would have to go right back in there. Yeah, So it's like it's just a constant, epic flow and there was no continuity. It was tough. It's it's it's hard, like you said in the last three weeks. It seas you don't score a touchdown, right, that's somebody's gonna get the blame for that, whether it's the quarterback, the offensive coordinated, the old line, and I just think that the Jets really struggled down the back half when you want to be playing your best football. It was a total opposite

on the offensive side. So let's bridge this thing forward. Dude, what should Robert Sale, Joe Douglas, Woody Johnson and company be looking for in terms of a new Jets offensive coordinator, because again, this is a very specific system the Jets ran the last two years and you know it. The thing is, I think people sometimes on the outside are

eager for an overhaul. But every time you change assist um, that means a new guy comes in because he might be looking for certain types of personnelity you don't have right now to that roster. So if you're these guys, and Woody Johnson made it clear the other day, Hey, this is Robert Salis call Joe Douglas said the same thing. But Joel, obviously he's gonna give solid support. What should

he be looking for in terms of an offensive coordinator? Yeah? Yeah, Before I get into that, That's exactly why I didn't think Michaelafore should have been relieved, and essentially he didn't get relieved. It was a mutual splitting, right, But that's why I thought, you know, a lot of fans were on the upwar like we should get around. I'm like,

I don't think you guys understand that. Like, if there's any chance of Zach Wilson bounced back, or even the new quarterback that's coming in, right, you've got all the pieces in the system right now to fit that Lafloor Santa hand offense. Right, So like if you bring somebody in that doesn't run that offense, and we know how this league is, a lot of guys come in, Well, this guy doesn't fit my system, or this guy you're starting all over again, you're gonna have the same issues

you had last year. And also it takes the quarterback literally like two years to really grasp the system. Let's not forget Aaron Rodgers one of the greatest of all time, right as far as just pure talent, Right, some people will say probably the best we've ever seen. Now, my homes might have something to say about that. Towards the end of his career, but as far as right now, with with with the two eyes that we have in our skulls that we've seen, nobody has been better as

far as pure talent from Aaron Rodgers standpoint right. People thought he was done his first year within the floor system. Like I think people tend to forget. People were talking about maybe they should move on to Jordan's love because he didn't look good. It takes two years to get into this system, you know, you know thoroughly and really grasp it what happened the next two years back to

back gam v PCAs right. So it's like but with Michael for Leavin, if you essentially don't bring somebody in with a similar system, which is why I like Gary Kobayak, because it is under that tree, you're starting to clock over again and we could have these same problems on offense next year no matter who the quarterback is, whether it's Zack Wilson, Mike White, Derek Carlo, Mark Jackson, just throwing out a few names, you're starting that cock over again.

So it's it's tough, right, because that's that's what the league is. It's like it's a production based business. But in that time, like your your actually do some unspeakable things as far as changing personnel, changing systems while still competing and making runs in the playoffs. Well, there's been a lot of names reported out there, dudes, and I'll just throw a few at you. Um, you know, it's top top of mind, whatever comes to mind as far

as any of these guys. Bill's quarterbacks coach, Joe Brady Marcus Brady, who was the former Colts offensive coordinator. UM. Kevin Petullo, the Eagles passing game coordinator, actually worked here under Chan Gaily a few years back. Brian Johnson, the Eagles quarterbacks coach. Pep Hamilton's who was Lovey Smith's offensive coordinator with the Houston Texans. Daryl Bevil's name has been mentioned a ton. He's Miami's quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator.

He's been an offensive coordinator for four different teams. He also worked with Solo way back in the day in Seattle. I mean, we're hearing a lot of names, a lot of different reports. Obviously the Jets aren't confirming anything. Uh, from what you've heard so far, top of mind, what what have you thought? Yeah, Darren Bevil is the one I think that's the last name you said that I think has been most linked to the Jets just because of the relationship Robert Salo had with him going back

to their Seattle days. I think he's a guy that's a veteran coming presence that could be really good. And this system um system is not too far off from what Michael Floor did, so I think that would be a good name and name I talked about earlier, Gary Kubiak, I think they should call him to see if you

come out of retirement. I mean, it's the guy that has played a long time in this system, right, was key in that you know zone stretched scheme and then play action off of that and being decisive getting the ball out of your hands. System. It's quarterback friendly, right. I think that's another calming presence that could be great for the Jets quarterback room, whether it's Zack Wilson or a veteran they bring in. So, I mean, it's it's

a lot to think about. I know a lot of people were enamored with the Bevil name, but you also gotta think e A and whatdy. Johnson hasn't come out and said it's a playoff mandate, but we essentially know it's get to the playoffs or something might happen in the off season. Right, so you gotta take into key, you gotta take in take that into account when you're an offensive coordinator potentially coming to the Jets, Right, I

literally got one year to get this done. So like having a young guy probably isn't the best thing first you want all we gotta think, right because you gotta convince that guy to leave his job come here, and it's literally one and done if most likely one and done if you don't get it done right. So, if you've got a guy like Kubiak or you know, um Bevil who have been in the system before and if you know, been coaches for a long time in this league,

they understand, you know, the timetable. They understand that you got the top five defense. They understand you've got probably offensive rookie of the year and Garrett Willson, Breese Hall Breese Hall coming back a b T. So maybe they're not, as you know, nervous about taking a job like that as where a young guy who might be willing to come on just because it's his first opportunity as officers

a coordinator. But then again, how would the offense flow if it's a totally different system, you know, And I've heard some names floated out there that I don't know. I don't know after that realistic, like a Frank Reich, because Reich is interviewing for head coaching jobs and people are talking about Cliff Kingsbury and people are reporting that, Yeah, you know, we've seen the photos from Island, right, So, uh, you know, I don't know how realistic that some of

those guys are home run. Who Frank Wright would be at home run? But like you said, he I just think what his history and what he did with the Coats. I think he's legitimately gonna get some head coaching opportunities. And then it comes down to again, this is a veteran guy, played in the league, coach for a long time. He's gonna have a bevy of places to go to.

He's got that way. The way is option as far as if I come to the Jets right, we essentially probably most likely got to get it done this year. Where if I wait and go to another team, maybe the Chargers or somewhere else that needs offers a coordinator, do I have two years minimum at least to kind of put my system and get guys going, get guys comfortable in the system. But charges are essentially, I think in the same position as a jet. So if you go there, I think it's literally they got They have

probably a playoff mandated more than the playoff minute. They probably gotta go past the first round after what happened with them in Jacksonville being up seven nothing. So I mean it's this is what the all season is about, right ea. You know, speculations where guys are gonna go um and filling out the staff and filling it out right right, You've gotta have the right guys in your building. Wind bet is bringing the excitement of wind Las Vegas

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last couple of years. With that being said, no matter who they bring in here, what is Sala looking for do you think, Because you know the man very well, obviously he wants an offensive scores points, you can run the football, who can operate late in the season where the Jets faltered down the stretch where they're able to flourish in December. But what do you think he would want as far as philosophical mind to match what he

does defensively? Because something that you and Bart have told me repeatedly about this defense, and it seems so ailmentary, But you got to operate with the lead. This is all about getting ton pass rushers on the field and dominating in the fourth quarter and pinning your ears back and getting to the quarterback. You saw you started seeing those rush numbers go up elevate late in the season because the Jets were never in the league. Yeah, and and that's the thing, right, I think you just want

somebody that's comparable, right, you just want comparable football. Honestly, yes, you would love to play with the league. But like you stated earlier in this podcast, yea no touchdown was the last three weeks. Like again, and people I've seen fans on Twitter going after the defense. It's like, I think we get spoiled that time, right when you used to the defense dominating weekend and week out. But the thing you have to understand in this league, he is that this is gonna be a week or two where

you may not play to the standard. Can that other position or other side of the football elevate the team to win in no scenarios? Perfect example, let's look at the four n versus the Raiders, which sent him had his first start. That defense didn't play to the standard. They gave up thirty one points to Jared Stidham, right, he's there for three sixty five bore. Having on the offensive side, a A picked their defense up. They scored thirty four to win in overtime and beat the Raiders.

That's what you gotta have, Like comparable football. You're not gonna always play your best, right even towards the end of the year. You want to be playing your best. There's times where you may instead of giving up only three points, you may give up thirteam, which in in the NFL, you still should win games if you give up thirteen points. Yeah, social media, I know you've been

pretty vocal about that with fans. The back and forth to get the lack of complimentary football is just killing the Jets down the stretch and the defense to be superman play in and play out, like that's not realistic in the NFL. So, like that's the thing that that you gotta have on offense. You gotta have somebody that comes in at it one and stokes and invokes confidence.

Right right now, you know how much confidence is on that side of the football, because you talked about the last three weeks no touchdowns, Like we know Gary Wilson has a lot of conference with no breeze Hall A v T. These are some of our younger players. But we gotta get everybody on that side of the ball having confidence that we can go out there and score on anybody. We don't care who the defense is. Right then again, my thing, I think Solid wants somebody that's

comfortable to this offense because because the pieces there. Now again, I'm a big proponent, and I never liked when when coordinators go somewhere like this guy doesn't fit my system. That's tag wash to me. Your job as a coach is to coach what can a player do well? Don't tell me what he can't do, tell me what he can do well. Put him in that position where he can succeed doing things well. And that's what I really

loved about Rex Ryan. He rarely put dudes in positions where he knew they weren't gonna be successful, and he had everybody had a key part to his defense. They had something specific that they did well, and he let them do that. Right. So, as a coordinator, really it's offense or defense, that's your job to figure out what players do well and put them in position to make plays.

I mean, we go back to Denzel Mims a lot of people were kind of mad at Lafour for for not putting this guy out there was six ft two pounds, runs like a gazelle, And I was glad that he was able to get an opportunity late in the season and started playing well and he started making play So again, yes, you might have a system in your head, a specific system, but find out what players do well put them in

in positions to succeed. I think that's something else that you know, Robert Salo would look for, right, how do we get our playmakers making plays, whether they fit the system or not. What do they do well, and how do we get them in positions where they can succeed doing what they do well. That was a super point about Rex Ryan, because I've always made the argument that I'd walk downstairs in his office he started with he would break out the playbook, he'd show you a number

of plays, and he'd always have something for everybody. Again, I tell people that if he had me on the field and safety, he creates just a special blitz for me that yes, he was not gonna use throughout the game. I wasn't gonna get fifteen rops, but I was gonna get two rops in here. He was gonna point me in position to make a play, even me, no matter who you were. Whenever you did well, Rex would find it.

Like you said, he if it was one or two plays a game, it would be timely too when he put you out there, because it would be the last thing the offense would expect. What are the pros to this job if you are a candidate? What makes this an attractive job? The Jets offensive coordinator position. Yeah, and I think that's what we kind of talked about earlier, right than again, you worry about the timeline because it could be essentially get to the playoffs or staff changes,

and that's just the reality of football. I know that's kind of tough for ere to even talk about. But if you look at it right, the positivities you kind of top five defense, he a you can lean on your defense, So you know that coming into this, all right, I ain't gotta go out here and put up thirty a game, right, I got a defense out of holding guys thirteen fourteen points a game. We just get seventeen

twenty one. We got a chance to win. Right. That's tough for a lot of coordinators, a lot of coordinators in this league can't say that, e A. But if you go to the Jets, you can say that because it's on tape. We've seen that. So that's number one. You got a top five defense, right, You have probably two of the best young offensive talents at the skilled

position on your team. When you talked about Gary Wilson going over eleven hundred yards with four different quarterbacks, brees saw who most likely would have been offensive Rookie of the Year, and Gary Rulson even kind of, you know, chuckled and laughed about that. When I acts at the end of the season, if Breese Haw stays healthy, does he win offenser Rookie of the Year, He's like, yeah, no doubt. That boy's cold. He's cold, Like I forgot

what the number one is. It was astounding looked at it when Breese Hall and A v T went out, the dropping production from the run game was out staying. It was ridiculous. I think it was like from five point five to like three point five without him in the game. I think the points were game drastically dropped

as well. So you got a button start out. You worry about him coming back from that injury because it was pretty it was a pretty ugly injury, right, Um, but from all intends of purposes and everything I heard, he's well, had a schedule on treatment. He's looking forward to maybe coming back at the beginning of training camp. A b T has come out and said he will be ready by by training camp. Again, let the medical staff do what they do. Take your time, right, it's

the offseason. You don't gotta be superheroes. We need you for a seventeen game stretch in the season. But you got those two guys on the skillutation. The av T one of the best young offensive lineman and most versatile offensive lineman in the league. Yeah, there's not many times where a guy can go up and down the line of scrimmage. He started games left tackle, right tackle, and right guard. That is absurd for a player in his second year and playing at a high level at each

one of those. So if your officers the corner top five defense two off, so woki of your candidates. One of the best young offensive a lineman the Jets have seen in a long time. It's coming back from injury. Then you've got a compliment of tight ends and I we'll see again. With contracts and how they're all, you know, set up. We'll see if there will be some changes at the tighten position. But we saw record played really well in that Miami game and bring a physical presence

to the run game. I think that's something we could do. And he had a really good you know, I won't say circus catch, but it was his body was going in one direction, the ball was going another. He made a really good catch from Joe Flacco on a bootleg. So I think they'll get him more involved. Honestly, was surprised he didn't playing a little bit more this year. But you know, Tyler Conklin, I don't I'm not sure if he got to the sixty catches e A, but

you gotta tie. And I got close to sixty catches quiet like we talked about a quiet sixty, but he got almost got the sixty kids. Just so you look at those pieces and you're like, I got a lot to work with right now. We do gotta shri up and solidified officer line. We got a lot of dudes coming off injury injuries, which gives you some pause and it makes you a little nervous. But you know, the number one thing is we got to find a quarterback here.

So I think that's what the offening recording is thinking about, Like can we fix Zach Wilson? Right? Is it just a mechanical thing? And also if we bring a veteran in here, is this system going to be friendly for him to have success quickly? Because again, there is a timetable to this, and it's tough to talk about in the NFL, but there is a true timetable to this. We may have to get this done in one year,

but I love what we got on offense. As far as our skill position players, we have a a star warth and a v T up front on old line, and we have a top five defense, so we have a lot to work with. Woody Johnson said the quarterback has been the missing link for the Jets. He also told reporters that yes, indeed, he is willing to spend if that's what Joe Douglas and Robert Salom want to do in terms of a veteran quarterback, he is willing

to spend. With that being said, do you think the Jets are gonna not just go out and get a quarterback, but go out and get one of these bigger names who potentially could be on the market, because I'm gonna caution everybody here, a lot of these guys who people are floating out there contract until at least the league year commences in mark. Yeah, so that's the thing. And then like you we all see other rumors out there

right on in the Twitter verse. Um, I mean, I think the big fish that everybody has been talking about is Lamar Jackson, right, who's technically stilling the contract will be free when the new year league starts if they don't franchise tag him. Now caveat to that. They just played ro Kuwan Smith. They have a franchise tag in their back pocket. And if you're the Ravens, you literally

built this offense around Lamar Jackson. Any hope that you thought Tyler Huntely just in case it didn't work out, could be the guy ended when he tried to sneak the ball over the go line and got fumbled and return for nine yards for a touchdown. That ended all

that will not happen. So if you're the Ravens, if you don't we sign Lamar Jackson back or bringing back on the franchise and work out a deal, you literally essentially blowing up your offense because what other quarterback is that system fitting for, right, So you take that all into part and honestly, to me, Lamar has all the leverage in that right now, right like, let's look at it. And I know what we're talking about Jets and quarterback, but let's just look at it. Just break this down

to push things forward. The year before, they're the number one team in the a f C. The markets hurt. What happens to him? They don't even make the playoffs. This past year they're teaching around the number one seed. Lamar gets hurt. What happens to him? They make the playoffs. Before you go on, I will just say this watching that game Sunday night, they were the better team if Jackson.

What if Lamar Jackson was on the field, and maybe they bet Kansas City the Yeah, if you think about it, because the one thing about the Ravens that people were complaining about earlier in the year with the defense, when Roa Kwan Smith got there, it was a it was

a night and day change. I mean they went from like giving up twenty something a game e A to giving up like right under, like thirteen fourteen points a game where road Quan Smith got there, and people will see the scoreboards and say that's not true, but it is true if you look at it right. The week A team versus the CINCINNTI Bengals, Trey Henderson had a sack FuMB before a touchdown. In the playoff game, they had what a fumble for a touchdown. That's not a

defense giving those points up. That's the offense, right, Let's not forget. Also, Anthony Brown had two interceptions where they got the ball in plus territory, so you're already against it. If you're the defense. We gotta hold them the three

and the Ravens did that. So it's like that defense is played at an elite level and they are starting to get up there in the age now, so that that that whorries you, like you were kind of hoping Lamar would have been able to play to see what this team really could have did if with him at quarterback, because yeah, I think I don't. That's Calais Campbell have another year in them. Marcus Peters is getting up there

in age like now. They're young everywhere else those are the guys have been two star Wars and they've done a really good job justin Matta Beaca is really good inside, so he'll be able to probably take that next step when Calais walks away ultimately and then outside at the corner. Right, they still got Marlin Humphrey, so they're really good there, but they've had you know, Stevens Whorley. They probably need another corner too because Marcus Peters is getting up there

in age safety. They're good, right, They're good. They got they got you know, Marcus Williams, who I know the Jets flirted with this offseason. They also got the Williams kid from Houston, and Kyle Williams is the caveat right because I was never the biggest Kyle Williams fan, and they've had a hard time trying to figure out how to use them there. Right, Hamilton's my bad, I said Williams.

Kyle Hamilton's um. They've made him a blitzer. They put him in the slot, and when I saw his filming college people, he's playing slot, I was like, no, he can't. He doesn't have any lateral quickness. It's not me taking a shot at the kid. And we've seen in the NFL he struggled in the slot against guys you know, like Tyler Bloyd, guys that have short area quickness. Um. To me, I think they need to use them like Dallas used j Ron Curse. Make him a dime linebacker.

I think he succeed and flourish in that position as a dime linebacker. Um. But the only thing is you took him, like what top fifteen do you do? You make your top fifteam pick and and kudos to the Ravens, right, they didn't force him out there when he wasn't ready. That's what that organization does. So, I mean there's a lot to deal with with the Ravens, right, because it said, again, if you essentially blow the system up, you're literally starting over.

You're starting to clock over. We'll harbar stay for that. You know. Derek car is another name that's out there right and on all intenps of purposes, the Readis have said they're gonna most likely move forward. Um. I think they have what three days after the Super Bowl to make a decision. They said, if he doesn't get traded by then they will release them. It will be a free agent frenzy for him, right, and then I think

he fits his system perfectly right. The just just needed somebody to make enough plays at quarterback and not turn the ball over. Now, Derek Carr did turn the ball over quite a bit last year, but then there was a stretch where he didn't turn it over at all. So I'm gonna bank on what we've known from Derek Carr is a guy that has taken care of the football. Let's not forget last year, but everything the Raiders went through, he helped lead that team to the playoffs and through

for almost five thousand yards. G a with less talent that he has now, right, so him coming here being able to be efficient. I know a lot of people scoffed at Derek car and I'm like, I don't understand why people are scoffing the Derek Carr. He's like a top twelve, you know, leven quarterback in my eyes, Like, I don't think we just have had that since to be honest with you, I mean maybe Chad Pennington maybe

one year. Um so yeah, good years up a far fire was very good for a while till the shoulder fell off exactly. He was up there in age two, you know. So it's like, how can we scoff when and again, this is no disrespect to the former quarterbacks of the been there, but have we had the top eleven quarterback in recent years? Like I can just go for the guy that's twelve or thirteen in the league right now, you know. And then obviously with w with the floor was here, I think the Jimmy g comparison

was obviously out there too. But again, I love Jimmy, but you worry about him being able to withstand the whole season because the history shows he's gonna miss some games. So there are a couple of names and one that was, you know, off the wall. Tom Brady was the one that I've heard too, and I was like, I don't see that happening, but you know, you never know. Tom might want to come to the Big Apple. Do you think he's done real quick? Do you think he's gonna

play another year? I think he's gonna play another year. I think Tom cannot be the sole reason you win the championship. Now. I think he has to have an offensive line in front of him. I think he has to have pieces around him. But rightfully so, I mean, dudes, it's forty six years old, Like, yeah, you know, if you're expecting to get that Tom Brady from even two years ago when they won the Super Bowl. You're not

gonna get that guy anymore. What if what if he told you does he wanted to come here if we had Tom Brady lash I feel like if we had Tom Brady lash year would have made the playoffs. All right, Two quick things before we get you out here, m Wilson,

Which one, Zack? What what do you do if you're him and you just left the facility for the off season, Like you talked about it being a confidence thing for him, What does he have to work on, both physically and maybe even mentally before he gets back here in the spring. I mean, maybe it's something like Mike McDaniel did for tour. Maybe he needs to go back and watch some of the film of him making plays, realizing he can play in this league. Because to me right now, it's more

mental than anything. Like again, his mechanics are bad, I'm not gonna say they're not yet, but as far as just that confidence and that mentality, like you gotta get back before he can work on anything physical, you know, because if your mental is not right, the rest of that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter at all. Like literally,

so like he needs to just get away from everybody. Right, maybe go you know some of the kids who go on YouTube, look at some of your highlights, just to realize, like I can play in this league, Like I can do this. And then it comes down to a mentality like all right, you gotta self scout yourself. Yea, what am I doing wrong? Physically? What am I doing wrong? Why aren't my feet matching my eyes? Right? Why are

my mechanics all over the place? Right? And then again, I don't you know he's had to back as a coach before, but maybe he needs to get a new quarterback coach to work on specific mechanics and right, And then it comes it comes down to you taking the coach to e a right. You can get all the coach until you're blue in the face, but it has to be seen on the field. You gotta transfer that

from where you practice at to the actual field. So that's the three things, like get away from everybody, get your confidence back first and foremost that might take a month with no football preparation to do. Right, get away, go on YouTube, look at your highlights, realize I can be the guy. I went number two over all for a reason. There's a reason they decided to pick me number two a role I could play this game at a high level. Two, get your mechanics right, right before

you even throw a football. He should be working on footwork and eye coordination. Right, footwork, eye coordination, hips, like I said, from from the ground up, feet hips, hands, eyes. He needs to work on all that this off season. And then it's about taking the coaching and then displaying that on the actual field. So it's the transfer of energy, right, transfer that from what you learned from your coach to

the field. And then it's like I forgot what the cliche line is like, Uh, never fear the guy that practice over and over and then once he gets the right equits, you feel the guy that practices until he can't get it wrong. That's what Zach has to do. He has to continue to practice until it's second nature it to him as far as mechanics and everything, until he doesn't get it wrong. Don't just do it till you get it right, do it till you can't get it wrong. And if he does that, I think he

has a chance. Because we know about the arm talent, we know about the athletic ability. The thing is, now, will the Jets give him an opportunity with potentially a veterman coming in here. Finally, uh, first weekend in the National Football League postseason was very interesting on multiple levels. But from a Jets fans perspective, what are your takeaways? Because we're looking across town right now at the Giants.

A lot of people have written Daniel Jones off and now he looks like an ascending player in this league

who's really become a very good quarterback. Um. And then the other thing, I want to get your thoughts on the quarterbacks overall what you saw first round, but that builds my game because Buffalo turned the ball over, they kept Miami in it, special teams plays, you know, you know, we could go through the list of what Buffalo did wrong, and Miami did a lot of things wrong too, but they had Skyler Thompson started a quarterback and they still

had an opportunity to win that game late. Yeah, And if you look at it, and you know me, when you have had this conversation about Josh Allen, I just don't know what it is. And I was I thought that brand Brian Dable maybe coasted out of him. He can't get reckless with the football and it comes in

spurts with him that that makes you nervous. A matter of fact, if you go back to our first meeting with them at Madlife Stadium, there was a transfer of what they did on offense after that right he had with the two picks, should have had three right in that game, and then he had the sack fumble that they ended up getting back from Bryce Huff. Right after that game, Ken Dorsey was like, all right, I'm I

gotta back some of this off him. We ran the ball and they just I don't get it because they average over five yards of carry e a right, they just didn't do it. Versus Miami Dolphins. Not granted, Miami is one of the best run stopping teams, but even in that game, I think they were averaging over five yards of carry and they were up and they're just slinging the ball away. I don't I don't get it with corners. Joe Lombardi. Ultimately, and this is not me

talking crazy, they cost him his job. Versus versus Jaguars in the playoffs, you have three scores, Alar has five carries in the second half, your quarterback throws the ball forty three times. Trevor Lawrence was down four scores and through it forty seven times. What are we doing here? You can say it's old school or whatever. No, you got two cute trying to throw your throw the ball a hundred times. Run the ball because even if it's three and out e A, that's like two minutes of clock,

two and a half minutes of clock. Yeah, you most likely win that game even if you running three times and pun it just because the clock is getting But when you throw the ball and you go three and out, or even if you do get a first down and then the next three plays or three passes and you you only use like a minute and a half o'clock, like, you keep teams in the game. So like the Bills, they literally got a self scout there says now, I don't know if Josh Allen is gonna play like that

in back to back games. But one thing we know about this Bengals team is somebody's living right over there because they keep getting Their offense is not played to the standard these last couple of weeks, and people haven't talked about it, like Joe Burrow has made some big

time throws. Looks like it is twisted right. They scored seventeen last week, and really, if you look at it, they scored fourteen because you know that picked that Anthony Brown had led to points, you know, early in that game, and then they scored again on defense. So like that, the defense has been able to be bid not break, because they really didn't stop the Ravens at all either. It was a turnovers that's stop them. Now again, you give credit where it's do, but funnily just runs to

play like it's supposed to be played. Andrews and has a record and pushing them into the end zone on that quarterback sneak instead of trying to go over the top. Right, Now, the interception was really good job by Davis gaither right. He was in his own coverage, eyes back to the quarterback. Anthony Brown didn't even see him, so that I'll give them kudos for that. But again, if they don't fumble that ball and the Ravens go up seven ar I

think the Ravens win that game. I think everybody thinks the Ravens win that game because they literally were punching them in the mouth all night long, and Huntley made some big throws to Mark Andrew to Isaiah Likely, I mean a slugo on a double move on Eli Apple for a touchdown. So the Bengals old line, the Bengals old line is a mess too, and the Ravens got

after them, especially in that second half. I mean, I think Joe Burrow in that offense, uh, I think they punted on like three consecutive drives in that second half, and even one where Joe Burrow usually makes a play to end the game on third and ten, he was able to get out of the pocket. They made a

couple of guys lists and just hit the ground. But that that's you know, kudos to the secondary for the Ravens for plastering their guys and not letting somebody open because usually in no situation, either runs for the first down or he finds somebody open for the first down, and there was nowhere for him to go with the football and he just slid on the ground. So the cock and keep running and ultimately they got that fourth

and twenty stop at the end. But if if you're the Bills, right, if you don't turn the football over, you you probably have a lot of confidence going into this game, just because you've seen that their offense has struggled, you know, more specifically in second halves in the last two weeks. Now, granted, this Bills defense is a shell of itself. It wasn't like it was last year. They're giving it up. You talked about the scholar times with

thre for over two undred fifty years now. He didn't have great completion percentage numbers, right, But his receivers also didn't help him out either. Guys were dropping wide open passes. He was absolute dots dots in that game. And again this Bills defense. There was times with you, Davis White and Terren Johnson made some good plays and one on one coverage. But this is a different Bengals outfit, right

with Joe Burrow and those receivers. Now again with Waddle and Hill, yes you have to respect that, but with the quarterback you probably didn't respect it as much. To me, the Bengals want to win this game in Buffalo. They have to run the ball. They're another team. Where did you forget you have a Pro Bowl, All Pro running back? Yeah, I know you've got the pass catchers, but it's like, dude, Joe Mixing is a dude. Like he's a guy like you gotta get him involved. And then you talked about

the offensive line. Would a beat up offensive line, what better way to get that offensive line going than to run the football. Yeah, you know, Buffalo has been susceptible to teams running the ball with the Miami would run the ball a little bit more, but they literally got in the shootout with him and kept up with him. So like it's it's it's weird because both of these teams, like you used to have Bengals just putting up crazy points on offense, used to the Bills defense playing way better.

It's been opposite this year for both of those teams. So dudes, nobody can argue that the Jets haven't closed the gap in the division. Yeah, for sure, the gap is closed if you look at it. Let New England off the hook twice in both of those games. Um, the Buffalo Bills game, Josh Allen, the second one, I mean they beat the Jets, eat them the first time. The second one through for seven and literally they were terrified to even kind of put the ball in his

hand that second half. Michael Carter doesn't have that fumble. We finished in the red zone. We sweep the Bills, right and then we saw what happened with the Miami Dolphins put up forty on in the first time, but the second time no offensive touchdown. I mean, it's it's hard to win this league. You lose the game nine to six, essentially it was eleven and six because of the laterals and they got the safety at the end.

But you know, if you're your Jets defense, you give up nine points, you're supposed to win a game like that. So the gap is closed. I think what comes when it comes down to again, he is what we kind of talked about throughout the show, finding the right guy under center right. If you can get that done and you can have comparable football on offense, the Jets, there's no reason why they couldn't make a serious one in the playoffs because anytime you have a top five championship

type defense, you have a chance in this league. So final point, Daniel Jones his success this year. How much do you credit him person only for how he stuck to it throughout those early turbulent times, And how much do you point to day Ball and say day Ball is a quarterback whisper, Because not only has he done this with Daniel Jones, but Josh Allen was considered a very, very raw talent when he came out of Wyoming, and he started to shape that guy and turn him into

a superstar. So again it goes back to I want to ask you from a player's perspective, and who's now in an analyst role, how much do you credit the coaching and how much do you also put on the individual? Like you got to give Allen and Daniel Jones a lot of credit themselves, but day ball, he certainly has worked the magic. Yeah, definitely. Uh, We'll start with Dable and then get to the playoffs. I mean, I mean,

I think Brian Dable is a quarterback Risciper. Honestly, Josh Allen was the one quarterback in that draft class I had the most concerns about, right, because he was just so raw and he hadn't played the position that long, and then he was coming from Wyoming, and then you're worried about some of his mechanics. Right, and now he's

one of the best quarterbacks in the league. And some of the things that give you pause is what we've seen lately though from him as far as turning the football over, the fumbles and things of that nature and then um, Daniel Jones. Right. People literally really put this dude on the scrap pile, right, and I loved him coming out of Duke Right. I thought he was efficient quarterback. A lot of people didn't talk about his athletic ability, but they realized how real it is these last few years,

more specifically this year. He's a guy that can keep plays alive. But going to the players, right, they ball definitely. I don't know if either one of those guys have the career they have without Brian Dable, but to give some credit to both of these players, right, because Daniel Jones starting with him, it's a one to thing not to turn the football over, right. We saw that more specifically in the Vikings game. If it wasn't there, Daniel Jones just took off and used his legs right now.

He was official with football. He threw some absolute darts in that game. And guy's worst Scott wide open he a Vikings past events is just atrocious. But that was the game I think everybody wanted to see. Daniel Jones. I think he honestly, to be honest, I think he made another twenty million dollars off of that game alone. Um, going into this all season because he's proven that he was a guy that was taking in the top five for a reason. Right with Daniel Jones, you can win

football games. And let's not forget the supporting cast. He's doing it with e A Like. These aren't some name guys. These are guys. Isaiah Hodgens was a guy that you know, was essentially released from the Buffalo Bills because they are too deep a receiver. But that's the league, e A. Right, There's so many Isaiah Hodgens on every other team. Just depends on what team you're on. If anohing they don't have a Garrett Wilson there, they don't have a you know,

a Dig's. You know, they got Josh Allenson help. They got him a step one digs don't have a game Davis like, and he's able to go out there and be efficient with the football. They run the ball well. But funny thing is they flipped the scripts last week. They passed the ball to run it usually. You know, se Kwan's getting twenty take and five Gary z a five like. And they beat the brakes other bikes. Now the score isn't a digative of that, but they beat

the Brakes off the Minnesota Vikings. Right, they won the physical battle of the line of scrimmage. Dan Jones really wanted to on offense. They could not stop him at all, no defense. Link Martindale dined up from dialed Up from Timely blitz Is and those guys competed and they got

after Kirk Cousins. So you have to credit day on Jones because it's a want to thing to fix your problems as far as turning the football over right, it is a want to thing as far as being able to secure the football, because it wasn't just throwing picks for him, it was fumbling the ball as well to e a. And he's on a significant, significantly better job of protecting the football, which is the number one thing you have to do as a quarterback. Yeah, uh, it's

gonna be. It's so interesting to watch not only how these playoffs unfold, but for the Jets. Who is gonna be that new offensive leader, the captain and the ship And then also where's Zack Wilson is that when he comes back and starts learning a new system and then potentially what the Jets do here in the off season with possibly a veteran quarterback, But we got a little bit of time before that. All starts breaking mid March

is going to be interesting here. As always, Jets have definitely a lot less holes, but they got to fill that offensive coordinator vacancy and then they got to figure out the missing link, and that is the quarterback position. Dude, had so much fun catching up with you, man, I know you are busy as hacked. Where can people watch you this weekend? I know we can listen to you.

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