Like the world you played to win the game. Jet toucksdown your listening to the Official Jets podcast on Jets three sixty production every New Year Jets Station. I'm Eric Ellen, and we've also got Ethan Greenberg here at Vanderbilt Sports Expiras. Unfortunately, this is our last show of the two thousand seventeen season, but we promised to make it a good one to Mario Davis and Josh Martin are here at the Windham Hamilton's Park and we'll talk to them over the next hour,
but we have a lot to get to Green's. First off, the Jets clean out there lockers. Monday, Todd Bowls addressed the media, and then today in Flora Park, general manager Mike mccagnet talked as well as Jets CEO and Chairman Christopher Johnson. Starting with Coach Bowls here because he was the first one to address the media for the final
time of the two thousand seventeen regular season. Here is that Coach had no more excuses and the Jets finished five and eleven seven straight years, that the Jets will not be postseason bound. But the narrative moving forward is no more excuses, No would have no shadows, no cutives. And that's something that Calvin Beacham reiterated in his season
ending press conference as well. Yeah, and top bowls. I asked him about it on a follow up, you know, he said, it's not that, guys main excuses this year, it's just he wants that mindset going into two thousand and eighteen. The external narrative for the New York Jets entering the two thousand seventeen season was this is the worst roster in football. They're not gonna win a game. Well, they came out, they won three of their first five five games with three and two with a three game
winning streak. There were three and two at one point during the season, and then there was a point there right around to buy when the Jets beat the Buffalo Bills and people were talking about potentially this team could be a wild card contender. With all that being said, Greens, nobody inside the building and we'll talk to Damaro Davis
and Josh Martin about just this. Nobody inside the building was ever bought into what the external narrative was for the New York Jets, and they made strides this year. The record says five and eleven just like two thousand and sixteen, this team had an incredibly different feel to it in the locker room in New England when the season came to a conclusion, I would say polar opposites.
And not only that, you talked about the external narrative, Well, the internal narrative throughout the course of the season was we're gonna stay together, We're gonna fight through adversity. And in each and every game except maybe the Broncos game, you could sense that this team was in every game and that's really what you want to see. And I know you spoke to Mike mccagnet earlier earlier today, he said,
we don't find solace and stuff like that. But if you're a fan, you have to be someone excited to at least see the progress that this team is based. The foundation, the foundation of the team that's being created as you move forward now into two thousand eighteen inside the Jets is supported by selective insurance responses. Everything. Now, how are the New York Jets going to respond to the off season. They will have plenty of salary cap space.
It's an estimated right now anywhere between eighty million and a hundred million dollars to spend. So Mike mcagnan was asked about it today, he made it clear the Jets will be very active in free agency. That's something that Christopher Johnson said as well. And the only thing that he said is, all right, so even though you have all this money, we're not gonna go spend it in one area or two areas because that's not what he
wants to do. And if you look at last season's off season recipe, I understand the financial situation is a little different this season. But Mike mccagnet went out there and he made a selective signings when you look at someone like Calvin Beecham who he brought in from Jacksonville and Morris Clayborne along those lines. So he was selective with the pieces that he brought in. But they were
very productive this season. Okay, So ideally, he continues to say, the vision here for Mike mccagnan, Todd Bowls, and Christopher Johnson is you want to build through the draft. So what happened in two thousand seventeen was the Jets added a safety out of ls you in the first round, a guy by the name of Jamal Adams. They took a safety in the second round, Marcus May. They also grabbed other pieces along the way. Mccagnan, you're starting to see the vision come together. I talked about it last
week on Inside the Jets. The layers of the defense right now are guys that he drafted. Okay, Leonard Williams, first draft pick of mcagnan, number six overall defensive lineman, one of the better interior defensive lineman in the National Football League. Darren Lee took strides in year two. He was a first round pick number twenty over wrong in two thousand sixteen. Then he comes back and addresses the defensive backfield two thousand seventeen with the selection of Jamal Adams.
You could have made the argument after both in two thousand fifteen and two thousand seventeen drafts that Leonard Williams and Jamal Adams were the cleanest prospects in each of those drafts. And then you think about other guys who have made productors, who have made contributions along the way. Coming at George Jenkins, the third round pick out of Georgia. So you're seeing a lot of youthful infusion on the
defensive side of the ball. We're gonna talk to Damario Davis, the guy that Mike mccagnet trafted, traded for in the off season. Josh Martin is a guy who I think he is symbolic of people you have to have on your roster that you develop internally. He started on the practice squad in two thousand fifteen and he was a special teams creature here and now this year he led
the Jets defensively in terms of tackles for loss. So you have to attack each in every avenue as far as yes, the draft, but you have to add in free agency and you have to end in um via trades as well, and mckagnan has done that. And hey, you gotta go to the other side of the ball.
You think about Robbie Anderson undrafted free agent. How about your main Cursey came over in a trade from the Seattle Seahawks, and the Jets got tremendous value there because not only did they get Curse, they have a second round selection in the two thousand seventeen NFL draft and all, by the way, the Jets have three picks in the top forty nine selections overall. So you know, I went off I was gonna say, it's okay to take take
a deep breath there. But something that I want to say is mccagnan has always said that this is gonna be his vision, always leads through the draft, and he said this to you, is that it's augmented through the other channels like a trade, like pro free agency. But the thing is is that the draft is where you get the most youthful players, obviously, because these guys are college jun years and college seniors trying to make a
name in the NFL. And you mentioned some of the guys like Jordan Jenkins and Robby Anderson in the later rounds, not your first and second round. Bobby wasn't drafted. So you get three through let's say seven, and then you're undrafted guys right there. And a lot of the guys that Mike has drafted have played for this team and
gotten invaluable experience, especially this season. Look at a guy like Brandon Shell, second year right tackle, started i'd say the final four or so games of his rookie season and then played in the majority of games this season and did a pretty solid job. And he was going up against guys like Von Miller, Khalil mac justin Houston. I mean the list goes on and on. So the experience that he's getting this year again to create that foundation moving forward is gonna be key for this team
in nineteen as you continue to move down here. So they're multiple layers on creating a team. I think we've seen that you touched on it when you look at trades, free agency, the draft, college free agency. So right now, the first item number one is gonna be free agency because that's first on the document. March. Yeah, inside the Jets is supported by Victoria Knox, Swiss Army um yeah, and a guy who's been a Swiss Army knife for the Jets Josh Martin will join us in a few moments,
and also Damarrio Davis inside the building. How about that trade in June as mcagnan acquires Tamario Davis, who had a career high in terms of tackles, also had to lead the Jets in terms of sex with five. It was a one for one, a player for player swap for Covin prior how about another player for players swap in? Maybe not as flashy, but right before the fourth preseason game, Dexter McDougall was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles for Terence Brooks,
who had a pretty good year on special teams. And not only that, he was the a f C Defensive Player of the Weekend the Week three against It All Fens, he notched two interceptions at MetLife Stadium. So I think a trade is kind of a lost art these days because you look at free agency, look at the draft. That's what's flashy. But then you're talking about trades, and Mike mccagnet is not shy about trading. But you let's talk about the Demario trade because that's what you brought up.
When you look at the return. I know this is maybe a little financial, especially for me, but when you look at the return for what you gave up, Calvin Prior is out in the league right now and listen and tomorrow. Davis was one of the leaders on this defense career year for Demario Davis here for the New York Jets. And uh, you know one thing I took away from Christopher Johnson, the Jets CEO. Today's said, I
got the best gig in the world. He's really loved. Uh. Taking over the reins from his brother Woody, who was serving the United states over in Great Britain right now. But Christopher said, you know what, I talked to a lot of players exit interview. The guys each pointed to something special is happening here with the Jets, and Christopher has a great bond with this team. And the other thing is Christopher Johnson had a message for the fan base today. He said, I know you've experienced a lot
of pain of late. The Jets have not made the playoffs in seven seasons. He said, you deserve glory and I think we're well on our way to return to proper glories. And that's the kind of thing you want to hear from a fan, from from your owner, and not mean that, not a fan from your owner. Not only that, but Christopher Johnson said that he's seeing something special starting to form here and that's not only a message from him, that's a message that he received from
multiple people inside the building, including the players. So he said that he met with almost everyone on their way out after they cleaned their lockers, and that he has a good feeling about moving forward and he wanted to have a sense of stability, which is why he ended the contracts of both head coach Todd Bowls and general manager Mike mccagnet, But he said that he knew he was going to do that early on in the season and even though it didn't come to fruition until right
before the Jets went to Foxboro this weekend. Well, I gotta think that probably happened for Christopher Johnson when he saw the Jets takedown Miami Dolphins for the first win in the season. Or you know what really jumped out to me early in the year was the game against Jacksonville. Yes, they squandered a fourth quarter lead, but they also recovered from that kind of a microcosm in this season. They
handled adversity the one that game and overtime. They also ran for over two hundred yards against one of the finer defenses in the National Football League Jackson Bell Team who's will see next year. But uh, the Jets put together a complete performance there against the Jaguars. I thought that was one of their finest performances of the two thousand seventeen season. The other game that really resonates with me was Buffalo Thursday night, a complete performance on both
sides of the football. I want to add one game in the mix here is the Kansas City game is because I think it has a lot of parallels to Week four in Jacksonville. Just happened later in the season because against the Jaguars you kind of saw, you saw a lead, you saw a great football and then even though, like you said, a fourth quarter lead was squandered, you're still able to fight through adversity and come out with
a win. The Chiefs game was similar to me because it's back and forth and back and forth, and all cylinders are clicking and you're finally able to get over that hump. And for much of the season all we heard was the narrative about finishing, and in that game, the Jets finished, and I think that you saw it in Week four and Week nine against the Bills that
was a complete dominating perform, completely dominant. Yeah, it's a different field, but I understand the feeling, the sense of what you're saying as to if you're Christopher Johnson, why you get excited about the team moving forward and continuity stability is very important in the National Football League. You don't don't want to take a step forward and then
take two steps back. And what this allows you to do right now with Todd Bowls, and Mike mccagnan, as you're sending a message inside the locker room that I've confidence in these guys moving forward. We took some steps. Yes we did not see it in the victory total increasing, but we're changing the culture here. We're getting younger, we're building through the draft, we're developing chemistry, we're getting pieces along the way, and the future is bright for the Jets.
But Christopher also said, hey, listen, this can't happen soon enough for us. I want to go to the playoffs right now. I want to go to the Super Bowl right now. But the thing that Christopher Johnson, Mike mccagnan, and Todd Bowls no, is you can't go at this with a quick, fixed approach. You really want to become a sustainable winner in the National Football League, and with
that you have to take a patient approach. You have to hit in the draft, you have to add complimentary pieces in free agency, and occasionally you gotta land guys like the Mario Davis in a draft or in a trade, or a Germain Curse in a trade. And there's and you have to develop guys internally, like a Robbie Anderson or a role player like Josh martin Um comes along and he starts playing for you on a regular basis on the defensive side of football. So I think the
Jets are doing a good job right now. I think there's plenty of reason for optimism. I understand from a fan perspective as you look at the Buffalo Bills right now and say why not us, and I say, well, maybe it is you next year, maybe it is you in two thousand and eighteen. I don't think when you look at the Jets roster and you look at Buffalo Bill's roster or a couple of those other teams like the Tennessee Titans, I don't think there is this giant
talent discrepancy Greens. I don't think so at all. And for what it's worth, I think the Jets are headed in a very good direction. And I know that's all we've heard, but I also understand the fans frustration. But to your point is it's not a quick fix, because if you're going for a quick fix, there's probably a
higher chance that it falls. And I think what we've seen in the past two seasons is when you look at the regime of maccagnet and Bowls and twenty six totally different than twenty seventeen and moving forward because last year kind of you kind of felt the reset fund because of all the guys that left in the end, and this team is so young, gained so much experience, and you're talking about the guys that you drafted finally get in field time, they see the field, and then
you augment it with the trades that you mentioned and free agency, and then you keep building through the draft. Well, remember, like you said, to reiterate this point is the Jets have three top fifty picks and this year's draft. And the more young you get, the more players, the better talent you get, the more the higher probability that probability there is for long term sustainability. Yeah, and we're gonna talk about this later. We're gonna talk about this later
here on inside the Jets. But one of the major questions for the Jets heading in this offseason is the quarterback position. Josh McCown came in here, he had a career year. Mccagnan signed him a free agency and he in his fifteenth NFL season with his tent NFL team, He completed sixty seven percent of his passes he masked twenty three touchdowns in all. He was a leader inside the locker room, and he did a lot of great things for this team. In thirteen Stars, Brayce Petty made
three starts down the stretch. Christian Hackerberg did not see the field in regular season action. Now, mccagnan was asked about will you bring Josh McCown back today, and he said, this is something we're gonna consider. Josh has to make considerations himself, to talk to his family, see where he's comfortable with. And the Jets are gonna explore every position as far as adding competition. So the quarterback position, you will look at pro free agency, you're gonna look at
the draft. And mcagnan said he would not dismiss the notion of adding a quarterback in free agency and or the draft. My thing is that it's January second, okay, and free agency doesn't start till March. And I understand teams have the opportunity to resign their players between now and March. But you know, if you're a fan, you gotta take a deep breath just for a moment, because there are a lot of options on the tables and this the season just ended two days ago, So I'm
ready for I'm ready for Toad. But it's not March yet, that's the thing. It's January second. But when you look at the quarterback landscape, there are options. They're always gonna be options when you look at free agency, when you look at the draft, there are plenty of options. And I know you want to talk about this later, so I'll bite my tongue for now and I'll consider that it's ease. But but but the thing is that the camp space jumps out at you because you can address
a number of different positions. But with that being said, you're not gonna get a pro bowler everywhere. You have to establish depth in the National Football League. Well, we watch these teams in the playoffs. Now you see the best teams in the National Football League. Yes, they have a marquee quarterback in most cases, but they also have depth down the roster. They have guys who can come in.
Because not at every position you're gonna have somebody who is starting sixteen games or is considered an elite player at their position. The Jets are gonna have to address a number of holes in off season. And the other thing is they're gonna have to look internally at their own free agents. Uh, we're gonna talk to one who has an expiring contract in Tomoro Davis, who at the hell of season, a Morris Clayborne, who I thought had
his best season in the National Football League. We had him on inside the Jets a couple of weeks ago. He said, this is the best I've played in the NFL so far. That's a former number six overall pick out of LSU who went to the Dallas Cowboys, Austin Safarian Jack And how many times have we talked about him? That's a waiver claim that mcagnan picked up from Tampa in two thousand sixteen. He made so many strides and
not only as a player, but as a man. He had a career year this season for the Jets, and that's a that is a position that will be in demand on the free agent market. So the Jets have to look at him, and then obviously Josh McCown as well, and there are other guys down that list. So right now, what the Jets are doing at their Atlantic Health Jets Training Center is they're having pro free agency meetings. And that's what mcagnan said. Right now, We're looking at everything,
and that includes your own guys. You do a self scout and then you put up a pro free agency board and say, well, hey, is this guy gonna be a good fit? Here is the talent of match? Is the chemistry match? Because Todd Bowl said it, record wise, we are far away at five and eleven. Chemistry wise, we are right now. Something that I thought it was very very interesting when Mike spoke today, he said, when we look at free agents, we we don't necessarily just look at the people on the field. We look at
the person off the field. And when you look at someone like Josh, he said, we did a deep, deep dive on Josh McCown the person, which is they knew who they were getting when he walked in the building. And he said, obviously they had high expectations for him, but he even exceeded those expectations to a degree. So to me is this process is very exciting because it's unpredictable, more so than anything else. And if you're a Jets fan, you have to be very excited because of what you said.
The financial flexibility allows Mike mccagnan and the rest of his team to go in a number of different directions. It's just a question of where do you spend that money, who do you spend it on, and how do you go about your free agency process compared to the draft and trades and everything along that nature. But it's an exciting time, especially for Jets fans. Right all right, we are live here at Vannabelle Sports and Spirits inside and
Windham Hamilton's Park Hotel. Eric Allen and Ethan Greenberg, let's come right back with linebacker Damario Davis. Back to inside the Jazzerak Ellen and Ethan Greenberg here at Vannabelle Sports and Spirits Inside and Windham Hamilton's Park. Our Player guest segment is presented by mt Bank, the official community bank of your New York Jets. Greens is so excited about free ancy tomorrow that we went long in that first segment. So without further ado, you're finally up here, Tomorroo Davis.
Thanks for joining us. Thank you guys for having me tomorrow. What was it like coming back here to the team you were drafted by in June and then experienced the scene experiencing this season? Um, it was just amazing. Um. I think it was sort of a blissing to be able to come back to the team that you know, you get you got drafted too, and you know every players dream is to build their legacy in the place
that they got drafted to. And so, um, you know, to kind of go away, which was a great experience. You know, I learned and I grew while I was away. But to be able to come back and then to realize how rare that is that it happens, um, and then be able to you know, come back and be implemented back into the system, you know, and uh, why did it work so well for you? I'm looking at your stats right now. I was adding it up today.
A hundred sixty five tackles you the loving tackles in New England, two tackles for loss and five sacks this here as well, pretty good numbers. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. What are you asking how? I just call it favor a favor from Um. I learned a lot while I learned a lot while I was gone. Um, it was a very humbling experience. I call it my Jesus in the Wilderness moment. And um, yeah, man, you know, in in the toughest, in the toughest darkest places you learn
you grow the most. And so I was putting you know, uh, the most stressful situation you could be put in and under and I made it through when um, I came out the other end stronger. And so when I came back, when I came back to the Jets, you know, I was, I was ready for it. You know, I told I told coach when he you know, um, when Dave was released and he told me he was gonna make me the middle linebacker. You know, I looked at him confidently
said I'm ready. And so, uh it was. I didn't know it was, you know what that season was going to entail, but you know it was a blessing. When you first came back and you spoke to the media for the first time. I remember you telling me and everyone else that was there, Hey, I'm I'm coming back. I'm a different player than what you may remember me to be. So when you look at the stats that e. A Just mentioned, what's something to you that you're most proud of? I think I'm I think I'm happy, um
that the recognition is happening. You know, I put I put the work into my craft. You know, ever since I came in, but the recognition is finally happening to have my name in the conversation with you know, the top linebackers around the league usually got more Pro Bowl consideration. I'm not just saying that because if you've been here,
it's something. Part Scott and I look at the game film every week, and part knows the position a little bit more than I tell and you played with them, and he's also a heard greater and he said you were one of the bettermental linebackers. Not a fella this year. Boy's gonna be a little biased because he mentored me, so uh, everything that I do kind of makes him look good because he was he kind of mentored me
and and still does. But um, you know, it was just amazing, you know, all the work that I put in the off season. You know, I had to grade myself hard, harshly, you know, and so and stop saying, you know, it's unfair that they're not giving me the respect I deserve and look at and say why aren't they? And it was a lot of it was a lot
of flaws in my game. I had to look at it and I had to critique myself harshly, and that was hard to do, um, But when I really looked at it and found out, Okay, these areas I can improve, I got really excited and I started to train specifically in that, in that them and and in that mindset, you know, I tore down everything that I did, you know, previously, and I designed my own workout regiment, I designed my own diet, and I designed um my own sleep schedule
based on what I needed to make those things happen. And so UM, I took that approach all the way through the off season into O T A S, into training camp, into preseason and into the season. And I never did look at like the stats, you know, I never looked at that like that was my goal. My goal was just to be the best player that I could be. And you know, to look up and see all this fruit, you know coming from it, you know,
it's amazing and it's a blessing. And the guy's gravitated towards you inside the locker room tomorrow now is we're sitting here at January second, in March, you have an expiring contract. So what goes on as far as you just having an accident and view and having conversations and you know, is it unsettling or is this an exciting time for a player? At this point, it's an exciting
time for me. It's very exciting. Uh. I mean, you know, I feel like I've done everything I can do, and so at this point, you know, it really comes down to um, the owner of the gym and the coaching staff and what they want and what they envisioned, you know, and we have a great organization, and UM, you know, I trust those guys, and you know, I have a good conversation with all of them. All my thoughts was positive,
and so I trust their playing going forward. And so UM, you know, everything that happens at this time of year is really more business and not football, you know, and it's it's it's the ugly part of the business. Um. You know, it's pretty, it's pretty when you're sitting in the leverage seat, but it's it's it's really the ugly part of the business. And so UM, it's really up on them and what they want to do going forward.
But so I just to take this time just to enjoy my family and relax and UM get my body back and then I'll start training again. The third round pick out of Arkansas State two thousand and twelve. Tomorrow, Davis rejoined the Jets this offseason, had a tremendous yeer in green and white. You're a veteran, You've seen a lot in this league. You came from Cleveland, a team that has seen a share struggles. You only won five
games this year. But what's building right here? Because we talked about an opening segment to a man, including CEO Christopher Johnson, g M, Mike mcagnan, the head coach, Todd Bowles, everybody's very positive about, uh, the chemistry and also the
accountability and also the talent that is starting to build. UM. I think I think the Jets in a unique place, UM because a couple of things, for a couple of reasons, is because a couple of things that the hardest to build is um unity in the entire organization where everybody from top to bottom is on the same page. And I think we have that um with with with Chris, Mike and Todd. I honestly feel like they're on the same page. And UM, that doesn't always happen. It's very rare.
And then you know, having character and chemis street inside the locker room. You know, I love going to work every day because um, it's honestly, it's like a family in the locker room. You know, the good times the bad time, we all stayed together. You know, it's like a brotherhood and and all of us, um, we don't all think alike, but we're all on the same page and kind of see it together. And and that's unique.
That doesn't happen all the time. And when you can have that, you know, Um, when and you go through the hard times like um or five and eleven season, you know, it makes the easy times even better. And so UM, great group of guys with great character, great core. Um, I think you know, the organization is gonna help push us in the right direction and bring it in the right pieces. And um, you know everything is set up, Everything is set up with a great foundation to go forward.
And so if everything stays the way it is now, I think it's all on the up and up time times on the horizon. For you. We thank you so much for joining us on inside the Jets, and we wish you luck and we hope to be speaking soon. Hey, thank you guys, God blessed. We'll come right back with Josh Martin. Welcome back to Inside the Jets. Sarah kell And and Ethan Greenberg live here from Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits inside to Windham Hamilton's Park Hotel in Florida Park,
New Jersey. We're now joined by Josh Martin. Our player guest segment is presented by M ANDT Bank, the official community bank of your New York Jets. Josh, we were just talking about it before we came on air. You are a world traveler. What did you do last offseason and what are your plans this offseason? All the last offseason, me and my girlfriend traveled to Asia. We started in Tokyo, worked our way down the eastern side of Asia, Shanghai,
Hong Kong, Bangkok. If you hollands in Thailand, how to bless? And what about this offseason? This offseason, we're going to South America. We're gonna hit up Argentina and had a going you down there and you are you are an adventurous guy because you old us one way ticket. You go down there and then see where it takes exactly. Um, we'll figure it out along the way. So what were some of your highlights of your trip to Asia last year?
The biggest highlight was probably this beach called Monkey Beach, right, and so you you go up to this beach and this this was a tour. I said, we didn't go on tours, but we had the charter. You know, we go with the group on this boat to this beach. And we arrived to the beach and you know, they says Monkey beach. But there are no monkeys when we showed up, right, I guess it was early. They're still
sleeping or whatever. And uh, we're playing in the water, swimming, chasing fish, whatever, and all of a sudden you see, well you hear the monkeys first, and then you can see this parade of monkeys, thirty forty monkeys, uh, walking along the beach. And as the day went on, people were kayaking to the different beaches around the island and they, you know, dr kayaks on on the beach and uh, the monkeys were going through their things. Oh yeah, they
were not intimidated. But here they didn't care how big Josh Mark was. No, they didn't care. I was more concerned about them than they were about me. Yeah, okay, I want to know is how do you decide where to go? Do you have like a bucket list that you made or you just kind of close your eyes and pen somewhere. I have an idea where I want to go, and then just talk it over with my girlfriend and she does a lot of research and we just do everything that looks interesting to us. But what's
on the horizon the specifics of this trip. Uh so Argentina. We're gonna go down to Patagonia and see the psykes, all the wildlife, eat some good food, maybe hit up the wine country, find a good malbec and what And
how can people follow you? Because I know you posted some stuff on Instagram last year and didn't why don't you throw that out there because I have a few ideas, So you can follow me on Instagram at Josh Martin Twitter as well, and uh I'll post plenty of picks, you know, my website, trying to get a video vlog going to my travels this offseason to you know, share with the fans. And how about some Instagram stories as well? Some Instagram stories of course, yeah, tos those in there too.
Are you are you gonna film with a GoPro or a camera or just your phone? Yeah? Phone, I got it. I got a great secrets and a gift from David Bass a little uh camera. Okay, well not like a selfie stick, but I want to hold your phone and record out so secret Santa. Was that just an outside linebacker thing? Or was everybody on the team involved in this? It's a usually position group by position group. Um. And then who did you have to get a present? I had Freddie Bishop? What do you get Freddy? I got
him a camera. He told me that he was going to do some traveling and he needed, you know, something to take pictures with. So came, did you cheat it? Though? Right? I didn't ask him specifically. We've been around a circle, you know, we're at lunch, and everyone just said something that they'd be interested in. Where's Freddie? Where's Freddie going?
Not to Canada because he played there already, landscape, I think Freddie might be headed down to South America to for the alright, so the Jets outside linebackers are really on the move. In the two thousand and seventeen off season. How about you this year? How different did it feel? I mean, you've been in the league for a few years now, but you became a defensive regular for the first time in your career. It was great. Yeah, No,
I enjoyed it. You know, as an undrafted guy, you understand that you have to work your way through the rinks. You know, find yourself in a good situation. And when you're in that good situation, you just have to take advantage of the opportunity. And I, uh, we're excited to get that chance this year. How fun was it to work with Kevin Green? Because I remember last off season we talked about it for a second. You you said, I mean, how could I not be back here when
Kevin Green is here? So what was it like working with him day in and day out throughout the course of the seasons? The man right the goat? Uh, it was pretty It was a blast. Now he brings so much energy. Uh. I'm sure if you've ever been to practice, you've heard g G and Uh. You know he loves on your heart and you he'll coach you up hard, which I really appreciate. As a player, you know, you want a straight shooter, someone that's gonna help you improve your game and get better day in and day out.
You're a young guy, So did you when you heard Kevin Green was gonna be your outside linebackers coach? Did you yourself go, hey, listen, I'm going on YouTube. I'm gonna look out Kevin Green. Who's got the most sex in NFL history from the linebacker position? Or is it something that he brought to you guys? Oh, I knew who Kevin Green was. I didn't have to look him up. You know, if you're an eggs rusher coming up and you study the game, you know who the best guys are.
And KG is certainly one of the best guys, if not the best. And uh, you know, I was just excited to work with him. You know, there's not much research I had to do. You know what technique wise, specifically did he help you out with this? Yere? No specific technique, more of a mindset, you know, just increasing my physical level of play, you know, being physical at the point of attack. And that's just one of the
best everything everything starts with physicality. He talked about mindset all the time and one of his favorite expressions Hunter's heart right, Oh yeah, Hunter sart. You know you have to be uh, relentless in your pursuit of you know, the ball carrier, the quarterback, just your passion for football. What's your favorite play that you made from tooth down and seventeen and it doesn't necessarily have to be something that pops up on the statue from an outside linebacker position.
I was really happy to play a reverse. Well, okay, versions are like my arch nemesis, like they because you get so tied in and pursuing to the ball from the back side. You know, when you're at this little it's very difficult to make plays and chase him down from the back side. Every now and then you'll get lucky. Uh, what I've learned to, you know, be patient and see what happens. What about your success, um stopping guys behind
the line? You lead the team in turn terms of tackles for loss this year with twelve, what do you attribute that success to? Oh, opportunity one. Then just being physical at the point of attack. You know, I took pride in and knocking people down. Yeah, you know, buckling tight ends and offensive guards, pulling you know, around the edge, and uh, when you kno guys down, my eye blind
of scrimmage. But but but the other thing too is that you know, I know people say, hey, you didn't have too many sacks, but you were around the quarterback. You went back to play this year because I think in all when you look at you over sixteen games, you were second on the team in terms of quarterback hits. Yeah,
that's tough. You know, as an egg rusher outside linebacker, all you can you know, all everyone talks about his sacks and uh, you know, I one and a half sacks this year, which is very difficult for me to say, like giving the amount of playing time that I had. But then you know, you look at the quarterback hits and how I was able to affect the quarterback in other ways, and uh, you know, from that aspect, it
was a productive season. Yeah, because you were around the quarterback a lot, Josh, and the other thing that you continue to do, You're you're a special team stalwart. You don't come off the field. I mean you're playing all the defense snaps some long games this year and then you finished again right at the top in terms of special teams tackles for this team. So, I mean, did you have to do something differently this year as far
as um your cardial because you're you're you're in good shape. Ever, everybody look at you right now saying this guy is in good shape. But you know, like you said, I knew going into the season, Uh I was gonna have to be a contributor on special teams in defense, and so I prepare for that my trading regiment and my conditioning and uh, there's only so much you can do to prepare. But you know, after you get those first
few games under your dought, you're good to go. Before I ask you a question about special teams, I want to bring something up real quick because I have to know before you leave for the two thousand eighteen or seventeen off season two thus in eighteen off season, whatever you want to call it. I'm not sure what what would be two thousand seventeen off season. I'm still I'm still started. I started the Happy New Year. I have to know, because one day I'm in the locker room
and you're you're, you're on your phone whatever. Darrenly walks by. He says, Hercules, he called you. He called you Hercules. Is that a common nickname for you or is that just a darren Ly nickname for you? O? Darrenly nickname? You know, guys, because it's fit. It's a fitting nickname. I was just you know, and but you said you like to lift weight youd like to knock people over. So I had to know. Yeah, it's a darrenly thing.
Uh that that's one of the great things about this locker room is the camaraderie we've able you know, we've been able to build over the last couple of years, and that's, you know, something exciting. Are you the first player in the NFL history to graduate from Columbia with a degree in anthropology? I would think so, I would think so as well. Anthropology. I know it's a study of humans. But what can you tell me as far
as specifically that covered. I studied anthropology with an imphosisan socio cultural anthropology, so really the study of people and how they operate within the culture society. And uh, it really just was an opportunity for me to learn about different people and and uh, I really appreciate everyone for their differences down the line after well, after your NFL career is done. But do you think that that is something that you would pursue professionally down the line getting
into that. No, Uh, I probably wouldn't pursue anything but anthropology, But I do think it really has informed the way that I like to live my life and understanding that we're all different and we all bring something to the table, and uh, there's value in that. So that's just you know, you're you're interested in finance, right because I remember speaking to you last off season and you're going out to Florida to help out with an NFL initiative for finances. Right. Yeah.
I was the inaugural NFL Finance boot Camp player ambassador the fast year. I was happy about that. You know, I tell everyone, if you show up enough, I've gone three years in a row, they give you a title because I really appreciate them making it official. Uh, the renaissance man here, Josh Martin, you're on the inside the Jets. Lastly, Uh, would you echoed Mario sentiments that this team is in a good position right now as you move forward, and are you excited as a veteran to get back here
and see what's next. I'm I'm extremely excited. We're definitely moving in the right direction. And and I think a lot of what people don't see, you know, in the locker room, uh, a different social gatherings. There's really a sense of team, which is important when you build that level of trust with guys. You know, on Sunday when you're playing in the game, you know you of the
guy on a personal level. Oh and and that GI allows you to communicate more effectively to to know that he has your back and uh, you know, be able to play more freely if if that makes sense. Joshua, thank you so much for joining us tonight and Inside the Jets enjoy your travels. Will be right back with their final section. Welcome back to Inside the Jets. Eric Allen and Ethan Greenberg here at Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits
inside the Windham Hamilton's Park Hotel. Well two thousands seventeen has gone way too quickly on the production and of things. There's a lot of people who make Inside the Jets happen. I want to thank uh Justin and Robert who helped us here on location in Floren Park throughout the year. Brittany Ray Santiago back at ESPN Radio. Bart Scott started as my co host this year. Obviously Ethan Greenberg finished up in the co host seat and all our great
guests throughout the year. We've had a tremendous program tonight with both Tomorrow Oh Davis and Josh Martin. Josh Martin joining us and once again, Greens, let me tell you something, um I do think the Jets are headed in the right direction. I think a Jets fan has plenty to be excited about this offseason. You got hit on some of these free agency signings. With that being said, you have a lot of money to spend, you have financial flexibility, you can address holes because then you go into the
draft without your hands tied. And the Jets do have the number six overall selection of two thousand eighteen NFL Draft, and Mike mccagnan has hit with both of his sixes so far. So let's make it a trifecta this year. Leonard Williams in two thousand fifteen. Of course, Jamal Adams with two thousand seventeen. I wonder how Jamal is doing Greens right now after going out at Gillette Stadium in pregame warmups with Yeah, that that was an interesting move,
to say the least. You could call it a bold move, Cotton, if you get my reference there from dodgeball, but it was I would never do that. For the record, I thought that was crazy. But good for him. Good for him. But but I'll tell you what, the kid loves playing football. He brings a lot of passion to the game. I think that's what we saw from the Jets throughout the year. I think that uh, Mike mccagnan had to make a number of offseason moves to change this roster. The Jets
got younger in the off season. I thought Todd Bowls did a fine job coaching him up. Uh. With that being said, nobody's celebrating the five victories here. I anticipate the Jets have taken other stuff in two thousand and eighteen. I mentioned it before, Greens. I think when you look at some of the teams are playing a wild card weekend Tennessee Titans and Buffalo Bills, things like that, teams
like that, there isn't a big talent scripancy here. There's not, and Jets are gonna be very active in the off season. It's if you're a Jets fan, tympically put, you have to be excited. And that's it inside the Jets for two thousand seven. See thank you so much everyone. M hm m m m m m m m m hm
