Inside the Jets with Bart Scott and EA (9/18)

has the best hair I've ever seen. Man him Donald Greca in Dan Marino best hair two quarterbacks, Ama gca House, unbelievable. What do you wake up and it's like that, Wow, all right, we're gonna get the mccowns hair or later. I just fight and hope that I still have some left when I wake up. I have a bone to pick with you. So I get up in my hotel room in Northern California Sunday and I'm like, I'm gonna listen to my partner because he's on the air ESPN

Radio with Anita Marx and Chris Canny Sunday mornings. So punch up punch you up on my phone, and he says, you know what I said on my radio show this week, you know doesn't even say Inside the Jets doesn't match it, this co host? What's that all about? But at least I remember listening Baby Steps. It's still early in the season for radio. Say my radio show next week is e A Than's you know the whole drop that. That's how we're gonna roll baby Steps? All right, man, this

is a man jam packed two weeks in a row. Man, it's not a standing room only. Again. Hey, you can't see Ben do. I don't know how to bring in the crowd up. But maybe his McCown is bringing the crowd out like this. I don't know. There's even more more. Okay, So Inside the Jets is brought to you by e Y. We're building a better working world, Part Scott. The Jets fall to oh and two with the fort the twenty loss to the Oakland Raiders. Okay, but there are a

couple of things that I want to point out. The number one is that the Jets want to be better against the run against the Raiders. The numbers show they weren't. If you go inside the numbers, the Raiders average about three point four yards to carry on twenty five of the runs three point four yards. Two explosion runs results in touchdowns. There's fourteen points. You have two turnovers in

minus territories. So the Raiders open up possessions inside the twenty, inside the red zone, they cash in with a pair of touchdowns. That's fourteen points. That's twenty eight points. Offensively. As Josh McCown mentioned on the conference call today and we're gonna talk to him here about this later, is that I saw improvements in the run game. The Jets average five yards per carry on the ground. I saw improvements on third down in Buffalo, there were four or

fourteen I converted seven of twelve against the Raiders. And then finally they got the ball down the field of Jermaine Cursey and two touchdown catches, one on a long srow. It's long scoring past thirty four yard conversion. First score that got the Jets into the ballgame. So wow, the raw ultimate result wasn't their part. I saw some baby steps for the squad, well, absolutely, And when you talk about baby steps, it's the little things right, and it's

doing a little things on a consistent basis. And when you talk about those exposive runs, those exposive players on the on the ground, you just talk about the lack of UM. I want to say discipline. I discipline, also technique. You know, these all things that are correctable, UM. And there's some things that they're gonna have to see in the film where I think they got caught with a flat line. Two linebackers walked up to the a gap and you understand that they have two war daddies there.

You have to understand and learn your per a snail um. One of the most important things about being a great defense or great offense is understanding your opponent and understanding

the personnel on the field. You know, if that's any other receiver in the backfield you're talking about Cordorel p Yeah, if if that's any other guy back there, right, if that's anybody else back there, you understand that maybe he's going out for a route and you get nervous for the pick route, so you stay in those eight gaps. You stay up, hugged up. UM. If you know this Cordorell Patterson or if that's Brad Smith for us UM.

You know, back in the day, you understand that these are guys that can run the ball in between the tackles, and it's a threat. It's a threat. You never want to get called in the defense when you're in a flat line when it's a threat of the run because once they break that, it's nothing you can do about it. And there was two unblocked defenders on the edge. But you know, when it's a fascinating play like that, there's nothing you can do. And that's just comes with the

defensive players understanding what the call is. You have to play the call, whatever your coach says, but you have to know when did you use some of the twols that he puts in your two box to be a high percentage? That says you maker, and maybe you check out of that, or maybe you put one guy in the A gap because what they do is you and they put two guys in the A gap and usually it's to draw and make the defense squeeze, make the

offense squeeze. They we used to call it money and that means you gotta block down because they have to, you know, keep the A gaps clean because the the defenders is that's the quickest route to the quarterback. So understanding that you know, I would have dropped out and and if we were playing that my way, your way, meaning whichever way the center comes to other guy blitzes because they can't block them all, I would have backed

up and just played that from off. And that's just something that the young players are gonna have to adjust to and have to learn to, UM learn, and you know, personnel awareness is a part of that. I thought the Jets, especially early on in that ball game, it was a game they were concentrating on the run. I thought they were doing a decent job, so much to the fact where the Raiders said, Okay, you guys are selling out against the run. Right now, we're gonna hit you with

a flee flicker. We saw that early in the game. I will say they hit you with Patterson late in the ball game, but on the third offensive play from scrimmage, they actually ran him on the third downplay and the Jets negated that. So for this team right now, it's a battle of consistency right exactly. And you can't have mental lapses. And that's just part of the process when you have a young football team, and UM you know what you want as coaches on the field and UM

that's gonna come with experience. And these young guys are gonna understand. We all understand. These young guys are gonna make mistakes, but you can't make the same mistakes. You have to grow and learn from your mistakes. That's why veterans are betrooms, not because they haven't made the mistakes. It's because they made the mistakes and they and they and they learned from the mistakes and they make, you know, high percentage decisions. As we used to say when Brex

was there. You're listening to Inside the Jets Eric Allen alongside Bert Scott. We're here there, We're here at the Windham Hamilton's Park. Games don't sound so dumb. You got free food. Is Monday. Josh McCown is in the house. He's gonna join us next segment. You can't tell me he doesn't have a hairstyle. No, it's no way he weeks up like that. No, I think that's natural. So McCown, I thought, did a very nice job yesterday, especially you're

down fourteen nothing, bart black Hole. That's a team that won twelve games last season. And I know a lot of people thought that Jets were gonna get running of the stadium. The final score indicates that happened. I really don't say I didn't. I didn't. I didn't see that game that way. I saw a fourteen time game late in the first half where the Jets forced the three and out, unfortunately turn the ball over a muff punt, basically giving away seven points. They're done to the half.

Done Even after halftime, people will say, well, that was a turning point. Well after halftime, McCown did his best Ricky Henderson impression, took off a couple of times, slid it down on that Colosseum dirt got the Jets into scoring territory and then making games. So I'm saying my point is, before week two, you tell me it's a one possession game in Oak in four minutes left in the third quarter, I'm signing up for absolutely um. And you know what what young guys have a problem with

is finishing. You have to learn how to finish. You know, you can get away with, you know, making big plays early in the game with emotion, but once everything settles down, you have to be able to think the game and be able to make the adjustments and understand what's what's happening. To you understanding and really take that inventory that that that information that they've given you about Okay, this is

how they're gonna attack us today. And you know, usually people come out with their first fifteen plays and that's the script and that's what you're gonna see. And defensively as well, you know, you're taking inventory your motioning guys, saying how they're reacting to certain emotions. You're trying to see if who's your tail on the defense, and that's

all part of it, you know. But the game is one and like in most sports, you know, every game in NFL is going to be is usually gonna be pretty close, and it usually gets bust wide open with a mistake, and uh, big plays kill you and you can't have those big runs. You know, you talk about Jail and Richard on the cracked toss or you know, a toss that was designed to be an inside toss but look like an outside play. Understanding the type of

runner reading the shoulders. If I'm a linebacker reading the shoulders of the running back, understanding that his shoulders aren't pointed to the sidelines, so he's not going outside, he's cutting it up. Those are all the little things that you have to do, and they kill you because you know you're you're right there to make a play and you have them right where you want them, but you have these mental lapses. And it's one of those things.

If if you weren't really consumed with the emotion and you know, fatigue and the heat in the atmosphere, you can if you were settling down, you're watching this game on film or at home on television, you can see it coming. But when you're so close to the action, sometimes you can't see. And that's why young players have to learn how to slow down and breathe and and really be, you know, in the in the eye of the hurricane, so to speak, when all this chaos is

going on. How do I calm myself down so I can read my keys? Uh, you could call in here and seven six s part Scott is ready for some calls. I know Donald's find out hold for a long time. You knew you were coming in right around sixty nine and thirty seconds, so he got he got in early. Josh, Josh mccollin's gonna be joining us. Uh during our second segment. Um, when you think about the second half, like I mentioned, thirteen. At that point Patterson comes in, he gets a long

touchdown run. You're speaking about pre snap recognition. You gotta see a lot of things. And Angles talked about shared stutch johns and angles. Um, what did you see from the Jets as far as throughout that ball game? Did you see better consistency against the run? If you throw out those two plays? And I know you can't do that. I know people at home are gonna say it doesn't matter final numbers. In the final numbers, well, they got better, right, but late in the game they got blown off the

ball a little bit. But you know, I saw a team that was competing. It wasn't because it was a one to and it's not a physical thing. At this point, I think you know they have, you know, good personnel on both sides of the ball. It's about the consistency and what happens is, you know, fatigue makes cowards of us all. And sometimes when you're fatigued, you can't really think. You forget to to to really read your keys, you forget to settle down, like you go, you go crazy

when you're tired. I don't know what the what the temperature was like out there, but you know when when the players get up there, you know, and you know you feel like you know, you start pressing. You know, you start losing, you start pressing, and everybody wants to make a play. And like I always said, you have to do your job, because if you're trying to do somebody else's job, then the coach has correct to people.

You know. And it's all about learning film. And I think they got some great film in in a in a tough environment against a great opponent to learn. And you know, I think they're on the doorstep. And I you know, I'm thinking that, you know against Miami, you know, home division rival, the division rival at home, um, you know, season opener. I think they'll be they'll be, they'll be ready to go. And you know what happens is now

you don't have to worry about as a defense. Now you have your crowd making the other opposing quarterback uncomfortable. Now you get that extra step coming off the edge, and you know, hopefully we get some sacks this week. You know, uh, McCown in the first half alone, I think you threw the ball the seven different receivers butter, butter, but he's getting somebody who I think it could be a key component to this offense throughout the two thousand

and seventeen season. Here back this week, and that's Austin Safari and Jenkins, the guy who dropped more than thirty pounds in the off season. He runs like a receiver. I think he could create mismatch problems in this offense. What do you um expect from him? Here's we go forward and he he gets his start with the Jets in two thousand seventeen. Well, if I'm not mistaken, McCown, you were with him in Tampa as well, so they should have some chemistry that he knows how he likes

his ball. Listen, there's never been a question about uh Safari of jenkins talent. It's always been about his maturity and him becoming a professional. He has all the tools. You know, I remember him coming out of college. You know, we thought that was gonna be a big signing for the second second round pick Tampa BA. Yeah, sepond round, second round Washington. He's big enough to block. You know, he's a matchup nightmare. He's what about six five six six.

You know he can catch the ball and you know he's an easy outlet. You talk about a guy that can separate. That can be a mismatch problem when you talk about against safeties and linebackers, and you know you also conflext him out at the number one receiver and see what that matchup is and and in really position block like we've seen in the past. Rather it was shocky or rather it was ocean match up against some of these corners and just body them out of boxing.

Monel slants for big plays. So it's good that he's back. Um, Hopefully he's rested. Hopefully he's hungry. You know, you learn a lot of sometimes from sitting back and watching football. Um, sometimes you have epiphanies and hopefully he's had a piphany and he's ready to come. It seems to have a different mindset throughout the summer. It seeming like a change person. Well absolutely, well that's that's that's only a good thing. You know. Hopefully, um, in the next couple of weeks

they get Jeremy Curly back. Because you talk about another guy. And listen, when I talk about Curse and I say a professional receiver, it's not a knock. When I said professional receiver. All you have to do is look at the touchdown catch right, professional receiver. Understand Crafty put his hand on the on the defender's hip a little bit, created some separation, took it away when he when he got the separation, made the catch at a high point.

I understand that that that guy couldn't jump because I had my hand on I don't know if you ever played basketball and somebody had their hands on the hip and they go for the rebound and you kind of hold him down, but it looks it's very subtle. So you know, that was a professional receiver move that was very crafty, and that's what he brings to the table. And if I'm Robby Anderson, some of these younger receivers,

I'm I'm I'm leaning. I'm learning from Curse about some of the crafty things that he's done because he's been doing it since he's been in this league. I did play basketball that one time at band camp. How do you how do you how do you think that was a two guard? Okay, you know, I said, it's sound real confident in you. I said, I'll buy the three point line a little bit. Career stats, Yeah, so, um, but we're gonna bring on they forementioned Josh McCown when

we come back, what do you feel about that? I mean, I think you quarterback, I'm up here. You gotta have some type of cold drink for him, you know what I means? Or something? Man this man? Okay, So we'll come back with Josh McCom. We're gonna talk about what he uses as far as hair product is concerned. I think that's Herbal Life and her Life talk to the passing fruit Herbal Life Jets fattering quarterback about his new team. Here is townfl team, the New York Jets. When we

come back, all right? Part the home openers this weekend. Bring a group of friends or cold workers to My Life Stadium for a fun afternoon of unforgettable excitement. Is the Jets take on the Dolphins that septembery. Go to New York Jets dot com slash groups for more information. Eric Ellen here alongside Bart Scott an Josh McCown, a K eight Herbal Life Josh. So let's get it out of the way first. What do you put in there? It smells good. I'll tell you what. It smells great.

This is this is uh your wash it with just dove. You know it keeps Yeah, but how does it stay? How does it? Oh, it's it's a it's a combination of things that I'm I don't want to give that up. You know what I'm saying. He will he will swagger Jackie. I'll tell you that will swagger Jackie and try and

put the park. Okay, go um Josh. One thing I asked you after the game yesterday in your postgame press conference about that last drive where you guys are out of the ball game at that point that barns something miraculous and we're gonna come back and win. But you put the guy o. They're a scoring drive at the end with a touchdown past to Jermaine Curse, your second

touchdown past the day. And I asked you about the importance of it, and you said, right now, we're at the stage where we have so many new parts and we've bun a unit of transition that every rep is so important for us. Yeah, exactly. I mean that that's when you're a young team like that, you know, just because the score is not not in your favor towards end of the game, those reps are are good, especially

for us because of the additions that we made. Uh, you know, really at the cut down at fifty three, we had we trade for Jermaine, Uh, Curly comes back and we moved Robbie over to z and and uh and then we haven't had Austome for you know, a few weeks. So those things, Uh, those are all valuable reps for us. And and then to go finish it off with the score for us that was that was good and it's a positive note for us to end on and uh and something that we can build off of.

But I'm I'm still going to know these guys and learn them and those are those are valuable times we can do that. You mentioned Austin, Sefari and Jenkins. He'll be back this week coming off two games suspension um to start the year. What do you think he can provide you as a veteran quarterback still learning these parts, a guy who the tremendous spring in summer as you know. Yeah, Well, obviously Austin is a big target number one, and he's

got he got a huge catch radius. So uh, when he can get into man coverage against backers and safeties, there's always a space for the ball with Austin because you can put it in the back shoulder you can put it up high. Uh, and and he's a good route runner and it will help us in the run game as well. And more than anything, to his juice. Um. You guys talked about it earlier, but I've known him since he was a rookie and and man, just really proud of the things he's gone through in his life

and where he's at right now. And he's he's got a lot of energy and uh, got a lot of good vibes, and so we're glad to have him back. It'll be fun to have him out on the practiceield Wednesday. Now, you had the MUF kick right before the half, and I know that that was inflating because that was an opportunity for you guys to potentially go up with the two minute drill. But what was the atmosphere like in

the locker room? How did you guys say? Because it seemed like you guys came out refocused and and and really focused on trying to you know, get that win back and let that let that go. Yeah, you know, it was a great locker room at halftime. I really was impressed considering what just happened. I mean, it was, you know, both sides of the ball O n D guys were fired up, you know, and really felt like we were gonna come back and push our way back

into this game. And and as you mentioned, Eric that you know, there we were at that you know, closely into the third quarter and we won't score away. So I felt like we we The vibing locker room was great. It was upbeat, um, you know both it was interesting because I've never really been in a place where both sides of the ball were encouraging one another. And uh yeah, it was good and and uh so I think those

are the things that we can take away. Those are the small winds that we can take away from the day like that yesterday, that that you know, we felt like we took a step forward in that area coming together, um, and that was good for us. Could you take us inside that locker room because this is your fift NFL seasons and you said you haven't seen many locker rooms like that. Who who were the scific guys talking to

each other? I don't know if anybody, I mean, whether it was you know, Bryce Petty was around up, but he was he was, you know, he was talking and get guys fared up and just you know Forte, whether

it was Mo or Leo. On the other end, everybody, Um Jamal Adams did a great job, like everybody was, you know, stepping up and and just you know, helping us stay in it and understanding that we just went through, you know, a tough situation where we thought we're gonna get the ball back and maybe be able to tie it up at half or do something close to it. But too many drill we lose the ball in the muff pot and that that that was very deflating. But but you couldn't tell in the locker room, and I

think that was important for us. That was a heck of a drive to begin the third quarter. I think you guys took maybe brown eight minutes off the clock a month right down the field. I think would you say in the next step for this offense is converting even a couple of these additional short yardage situations. We go back to that second scoring drive in the first half. I think you had a third and short and had to settle for a field goal there, and then again

you get inside the red zone and the fourth and one. Unfortunately, uh at the lay a game pushes you back and you kick a field again. Yeah, I mean it was I guess the best to let game we've ever gotten because it didn't like we're gonna get it. Um so at least we got three out of that. But we gotta take that possession and put it in the end zone. And and that's what that's what the good football teams

do because you gotta keep especially when you're playing offense. Uh, with Derek Carr and those guys, you gotta keep in step with them. And so you can't change seven for three with those guys very long and keep up. So we needed to put that one in. That was that was like you said, that'll be a defining thing for us as we moved forward and when we started getting in the red zone, getting close, punching these intimate getting

sevens instead of three. How do you accelerate the chemistry with with all these moving parts and new guys here? How do you do that? You know, you only have so much time on the feel is it? Is it? Meetings at your house? Are they staying the night? Like? What's going on? How do how do you accelerate that chemistry so you guys can have that none verbal communication. All great quarterback receivers and running backs hat right. Yeah, I mean that's a lot of eating time together. You know,

that was a great thing. Curly got here last week, uh Germaine the week before, and it was we just hopping over see the room. We just sit there and go through cut up some videos of different plays and installations that we haven't talked to. Okay, man, that's what I expect you to do. If you get dis coverage and if you see this and and uh and it's hard because you can't just go out and say, hey,

let's throw it out. So because you're running guys into the ground, they need their legs and need to be fresh, so it's hard to get the physical timing. But thankfully those guys are pros and I've been doing this a little bit and so that part took care of itself. It's more just I want to know how you're gonna react in the game to certain things and uh and they were great with that, and so hopefully we can

keep building on that. The offensive line perform in your eyes, you really guy going back there obviously, and you've gotta be looking down the field and keeping your eyes down the field. But now you had a chance to watch the game tape, and you see that you got the ground game gone five yards to carry the code of Dozer comes in. Brian Winners went out with an abdomen injury.

He performed pretty well there at the guard position. Brandon Shell, that's a tough test going against Kalil Mack all that time before you answered that, did you tell them this? And if you guys are gonna get me sacked, don't sack. Don't let me get sacked on the dirt because it hurts a little worst. Oh my gosh. I mean and I had one, you know, I had a run and I slid on the dirt and it was man, that dirt. It's it's something else. But yeah, they did great, man,

they really did. Uh. Brandon blocked his tail off, especially against a very good player in Khalil mac Uh and then Dakota stepping in when Brian went out and just carried the torch. So but up front all together, really really played well on both the run in the past game and UH and really got us got us going in the run game where we were able to coach more was able to doll off those runs over and over again, and we were able to find some creases. All three backs were able touch the ball and get

some good runs. So, uh, those are positives for us because that's what we needed to do. Leaving Buffalo, you know felt like, you know, thirty thirty five yards rush on whatever we had that wasn't that's not good enough for any team to win. Barton bart knows that. And and so we needed to push that a little bit and for us to get over the hunting yard mark yesterday,

that was a good good side. You went to a lot of big sets to see, uh, quality in the game inserted early and you guys said, hey, listen, we're gonna impose our trying to impose our will. Yeah, well, necessity is the mother of invention. We've you know, without a s j r. See quarterbacks got all because take him up. But I got I got it, I got it. Um. But you know what, we had to have those guys because we wanted to. That's how committed we worked to the running game. We said, you know, we don't have

you know, our top two tight ends. We lost Thomas and two and uh and uh we need to be able to continue to set that edge, and so why not bring the two bigs in there? Let them go to work on the on the edges and and set it for so that we can get the wide zone running game going. We got We're able to do that. Now you've been you've been on a couple of teams a couple a couple of times, a couple of too. We rounded up. Now you've been on a couple of teams other than New York. What was the best city

to live in? Hold on, hold on, I gotta interject here. This guy, this guy number one UH is the only remaining quarterback left from the two thousand two draft. Cliss third round pick out of UH Sam Houston State actually played at s MU before you went there. But you were with Arizona from two thousand two to two thousand five, Detroit in two thousand and six, with the Raiders in two thousand seven, Miami for a couple of months in two thousand and eight. There's a good story behind that.

Then you were traded to Carolina and you were there between two thousand and eight two thousand nine. Then you went outside the National Football League and played with the Herd for Herford Colonials of the old United Football League. Do you remember that part the two thousand ten in Frisco two thousand and eleven and Chicago Bears from two thousand eleven through thirteen before you had a couple of

seasons with the Cleveland Browns. That's some kind of resume. Yeah, and you forgot Tampa in there too, But all the where's Tampa? We just said he played with Farren Jenkins? What do you think? But I'm missing it here and I got nine. Really yeah, that's fine that happens. Did you keep a check from each one of those cities? No doubt, no doubt. Um no, no state taxes now in Tampa though, then I like that that's a little better check. Absolutely, No, that's that's good. Yeah, it's been

it's been crazy. I think my favorite city of all those places. Um, it's been cool. I love the big cities. I'm from a small town in East Texas, so uh so you get to come to these big cities have been cool and to be all over has been really fun. But I enjoyed Chicago. It's a great city, and I'm I have enjoyed so far getting to get to know the city and see it's really really cool too. I'll

check you out, man, you're excited. Uh Home opener this week, you finally get back the first two game road swing for the Jets to start a season on a long time. So now you're coming back, you know, playing no playing a divisional rival in the Miami Dolphins and another one of your former clubs. Yeah, I mean it's it's uh,

it's gonna be exciting. I mean we were you know, division game obviously, and these guys you know coming to town there there they face some adversity with their home or their opener getting changed, and they call them West Coast and get them to win. And so they're they're coming and feeling good. We're gonna have them, you know, are handsful with their their front, they're good front. Donalkan susan heck of a player. And uh, it's gonna be a fun game. But I look forward to having our

full compliment of of of guys. You know, we'll see what happens with with everybody, but you know, glad to have Austin back and and uh, and it'll be fun to take this game plan, really our first full game plan with with the with the full group and uh and get after it with those you like where you're at personally right now, you complete about seventy percent of your passes, and you see them being in sync with John Morton and of course Jeremy Pates. Yeah, we're growing.

I mean, that's that's part of it. But I do feel I feel comfortable with how he's calling the game. Felt like a game, really good game of the day and just trying to play efficient football, you know, and and be efficient protected uh and uh and get us in the end zone. And I think for for myself, as I grow with these guys, uh and and we start utilizing different guys on the offense, I think that'll

that'll get it even better. But um, you know, so far, not not bad, but not necessarily where I wanted to be either part. Would hum run the for d N back when you came out to O two four filing Josh, okay, see their hair their Yeah, you had it up like the Rocketeer when you're ready. But if Bart was chasing me, I would be good because the fear factor will push me ahead. Well said Josh McCown. Thank you so much for joining us tonight on Inside be right back here

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Now we're gonna go to some calls momentarily. Eight hundred three seven seven six Eric Ellen and Bart Scott here, Uh, Bart, you really enjoyed having Josh and you guys are talking it up pretty good there during the break. Well, you know, he's a class act and you talk about class O two. He's still there, you know. And what's more more impressive is when you mentioned that he was out of the

league to continue to fight. That told you the type of scrap that he has, you know, and you know he you know, he's really taking advantage of the opportunity here to to really lead and and you know that's that's a special thing. Whenever you can be a quarterback of an NFL team, start with the back of an NFL team. Listen, those jobs is only thirty two of them and there's a lot of people that wish they

could have it. You know, he has opportunity here and them to grow and really leave some young guys and and and and be that that that veteran voice, and he's he's relative in it. And uh, I saw signs yesterday in that game. But they're moving in the right direction. Now they can just get more consistency and get more practice time and you can have more than just one weapon, because now I can imagine the Miami Miami Dolphins are

gonna try and take curse away. And that's why it's important for him to get some chemistry and get some mother guys involved. I wish we could have had more time for with him. And he's signing an autographs here and that's why people should come here to the window vannor both sports and spirits. And this is a nice spot, man, I might I might rent this. I wanted to have a party. It is a good spot. But uh, Todd Bowles last night said Bryce Petty will be the Jets

back up for the foreseeable future. Christian Hackenburg wasn't active against Oakland Raiders. You're take on that right now. The Jets quarterback situation well, I think Petty's earned the right. You know, it was just was he healthy, um, And if he's healthy, he deserves to be to big up quarterback. You talk about a guy to gets him the best chance to win if if God forbid, Um McConn goes down, he's a guy that can step in. You know, he

showed it. He showed himself well in the in the preseason, and he has a little chemistry with Robbie Anderson and you know some of the other receivers, and you know, hopefully we don't see him, but if we do, we know that he's capable. Well, you have the Hacka preseason, no doubt about that. And I still think Christian Hackenburg is gonna take the proper approach. I don't think it's approach will change. It's just you're gonna be receiving less

reps now more scout team reps. But you know those scout team reps is still an opportunity because you're going against the number one defensive opportunity for you to grow against a number one corner or you know, a great pass rush. You know, so those are great opportunities. Listen, I was an undressed phrasing I came in. I didn't start into my fourth year, you know, and you were making it down on special teams earlier. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

So you contribute the best way you can and and you know, you just have to take advantage of every opportunity, you know, and Hackenburg has an opportunity to really learn to really absorb Listen, I blame, I blame Sanchez, I bring, I blame m Wilson, I blame you know, Flacco, I bring guys like that because it used to be where you know, you had it. You know, Carson Palmer came in the league and kitting It was the starting quarterback for two years. You talk about Aaron Rodgers was behind

Brett far for three years, you know. And really sometimes we can ruin young quarterbacks because we play them too early. You know, God forbid somebody ever has to go through what David Carr went through. You know, you can't when you know, when physically you're getting beat down, you know, it's it's hard to really learn from your mistakes because

at some point you start seeing the rush. So it's good but for Hackenburg to sit back and learn, learn how to prepare, you know, learn how to to watch film learn how to to to decode the defense, learn all the subtle you know tricks that you know, all the great veterans quarterbacks uses, and learn how to change tempo, you know all that happens. That's the game slow down, because I'm sure he did that in college. But what happens is now you have to learn a whole new playbook.

So now the the decision from your mind to your body is a lot slower than it was because you're thinking, not reacting. Yeah, and the thing about Christian Hackenberg is that he's in a new offensive system again. And John Morton Jeremy Bates said that it really liked his approach throughout camp and he took some steps for worried. I know a lot of people saw him in the preseason and saw the struggles and they wanted immediate success and sometimes that doesn't happen. And right now he's still in

the learning stage. So go forward is the number three quarterback? Uh, let's go to your calls though on inside the Jets on nine three, seven, seven six. Donald has been on hold for a while yesterday, So let's start with Donald. Yeah, Yeah, what's up? Donald? Yeah? They never cooking to me? Man he had, he had us own silent mute. What's up, Donald? Yeah, I'm with you. I got doing maintaining maintain Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, I'm just uh I think Tom Bones is uh putting

the difficult position because that's just doing things. The Jets have the typical talents kind of to be able to win in uh, you know people, and I just think it's hard to uh expect the man to uh, you know, having team to compete when you don't necessarily have the you know what I mean, Well, well you for the

call Donald, Yeah. Well, and what Donald's talking about is saying that, you know, it's a lot of veteran players, a lot of proven players that were let go, but at some point you have to do what you call a competitive rebuild um and you have to see them take a look at some of these young guys that

you that you brought in. Sometimes the presence of a veteran can can can can handicap the development of a young player because he's gonna lean on that veteran all the time, and instead of stepping out when something needs to be said, he's gonna look for that veteran to said. He's not gonna step on that veteran toes. But now when that veteran's room, a guy like Leonard Williams, he's gonna have to step up. He's gonna have to say listen, man,

this is what's going on. And he has to develop those leadership skills and learn how to read the room and say, hey, guys, this is what we're doing. Saying for Jamal Adams and some of the other younger players. You know, you can't pick out leaders. You know, leaders are development. Sometimes we all assume our position. I wasn't a leader or the leader when I got in Baltimore because ray Lewis was there, Peter bow Where was there, Michael mcquarie was there. So I was one of the guys.

I like to say, I wasn't leading. I was pushing from the back and I was learning how to become a pro. And I had my little click my little clicker. You know, we just call ourselves the head Busters and all that stuff, and you know, we would try and have pride and we were trying to see what the Vestans were doing. And we hung together and that's how you grow. Yeah, you you labeled this as a competitive rebuild. The bottom line is the Jets last year won five games.

There were a lot of players on this team with more name recognition, no doubt about it, but yeah, it did not equate the victories. So a transition was necessary for this team ultimately to move forward. With that being said, you're trying to win in a short term and looking at the long term as well. And I think you can do both of those things together because part of what you're doing right now is trying to establish a culture for the long term foundation as you build with

some of these younger players. Absolutely, I like I said all the time, I went through this exact same thing in two thousand two in Baltimore. We're the youngest team in NFL history. And you know a lot of those players from that two thousand two teams laid the foundation for what they what what the Ravens are, and what

the Ravens have been going forward. And it's when you can find those players fundamentally, and you know, you have great locker room gods, you have great high character guys, and they teach everybody else Selective Insurance brought to you by Selective Insurance responses everything inside the Jets. Eric aunt Bart Scott here at the Windham, Hamilton's Park, Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits. Let's roll on with some calls and go to IRA and Staten Island. I was able to see

him in Northern California this weekend. Hey, what's happening? Hey? You know you look at this Forday's games and you know why. Yeah, they're rebuilding. Yes, um thesic the result we one. Now you always want to wait, h listen, there's no excuse for some of the statistics, but as you gotta look at it. You know, the ratings for a Super Bowl contending team. They got three four pro

offensive linemen on that squad. Um. We hung with them until basically almost he undered their quarter and you know when it was fourteen nothing, I said, oh this is really going in a long direction. But I give him a lot of credit the four facts. You know, especially in McCown. He kept a group together, a good leader, made some plays and you know what I do wantin did a really good job considering the hand he dealt with right now, especially with some of the new guys.

And I think he called a good game and it was nice to see him get all three running backs because I think McGuire really needs to get snaps this year. And I think if they do that with Jenkins coming back now all of a sudden, you know, Curly and he got cursed, you know, maybe somehow they could mix Stewart and uh the offense right now, I think there may be a little editor defense. Ultimately, they could just secure and tacking up some of the things that's going

in the back end. But well, I've heard and maybe two years three helped me here. Why doesn't talk list? Why doesn't talk list? We guess what. He doesn't have leaders and her mind back here anymore like his first year where he was listening all the time. So he has to keep the two safeties back, so you know, in two least cooling to start to show that he could trust on one on one. He can't bleds. So

it's not that he doesn't know how. It seems he's dealing with what he has on the roster and hopefully these guys will get better and as the season goes along, so start to open up the playbook on the keep and decide thanks for it calling. What I would say about one thing about the game against the Raiders is that Derek Carr doesn't get set. He was saying sixteen times in two thousand sixteen. Okay, so that means one a game. Yes, did the Jets land yesterday in Oakland? No,

they didn't. But oftentimes teams play against the Raiders and they know they're not getting there. Absolutely, it's too it's more than one way to get pressure. You can get pressure by you know, the numbers game or overloading the side or schematics, or you can get pressure by playing coverage in the backside and you know, really making a quarterback hold onto the ball and really taking away some of his first or second reads, hoping that your passionate

should get there. Now, if the defensive line is the strength of this team, then you have to allow them to get the sacks. Because before the strength was the back end and we we we leaned on that as well. When we have that's what we can add the extra guys. So you have to understand that this is the same personnel that he had before. So he's gonna have to

try and get that pressure by by coverage. And you know, when people get more comfortable in their roles, like you said, then he can add the extra man into the box. But right now, you don't want to make sure, you don't give up the good the big plays and want to make make teams work for the hope that they get behind the sticks. That's what you do when you

have a young team. But what the Jets are gonna have to do is start being more consistent in the running game and getting these teams and third and eight, third or nine if you if you want to be at to blazz and open up the playbook, you gotta you gotta win on first as well. You gotta get incomplete on the second down. Now we can have fun. Now it's the party, no, and you're right about that. So, uh, Sunday is gonna be a different battle against Jay Cutler

and company. We'll get into the Jets Dolphins on our next segment here after the break, and we'll try to get to Dan Kevin and already before we wrap this baby up. We'll be right back here from Bandy Sports and Spirits you're listening to Inside the Jets. All right, we're in the two minute drill here. We got about three minutes left the segments. So let's take a couple of a couple of more calls. Let's go to Dan

real quick day. What's up, guys, love you love the show. Guys. Look, man, I'm about to say I have no ill will against Josh mccowman, but this is he's just a waste of time already. You know you got Bryce Petty there, he's fully healthy, will value. We are evaluating young players. Play some out there and it doesn't pound out in week eight, then Hackenburgh out there for the final eight games. This is enough enough. Mccounty ain't gonna be here next year.

Let's evaluate accordingly, all right, rapid fire Dan words hurt first of all, But secondly, it's important that you have a guy like McCown here because he has to teach people how to be a professional. You know, you have the blind lead to blind, if you have two young quarterbacks. It's important for him to be here. And I do see him here for the formortim future. Whatever you said, I think I said it wrong, but yeah, more than the media future. Yeah, but he's gonna be here, right

because you need him. He's important. You know, say if you do it in the draft, let let's let's just say you go. Let's just say you go, um and get uh first round draft pick quarterback. You need somebody to teach who Who's Who's he going to learn from another young quarterback? What is he going to teach him about being invention? About learning the defense, about how to prepare? It's important, you always have to have it. Why do you think the Raiders brought in Justin Tuck because he

was a great player. No, he wasn't a great player when he went to Oakland. He was great for the locker room. He was there to teach a guy like Khalil Mack how to become a professional. Why did you think they brought what's in back? Right? What's it wasn't wasn't the player that he was when he was there. But he taught to those young dbs how to play defense, how to be a professional, how how to play this, especially at the quarterback positions. Exactly, especially at the quarter

all these people. God, you put one of those guys out there and they get hurt because they aren't ready to protect themselves against the varsity, then what happened? Well, Oh, by the way, he's been effect of the first two games. Let's not overlook that that Josh McCollum has played well. And how do you evaluate to your your your receivers if you don't have a quarterback that getting the ball when they need to get it. I'm not saying those guys won't play later this year, but right now, this

is the guy. Okay, that's why he's in there. Man. I hate what people call they. It is an uneducated you comment. Don't worry about somebody. Come on, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, we got We're gonna go to him real quick. We got twenty seconds. Kevin. What do your receiver? How good is this receiver? Oh? I don't know the ball they go to him. Uh, it's Kevin. I didn't know. I didn't see the blitz was coming, so I didn't know to pick up the hot route. Yeah, go ahead, man,

you got ten seconds, let's go. You gonna make it. I was just gonna day. Uh. David Harris seen blott one great linebackers. You talk about personnel landers. I think if David Harris hadn't line back and he could have helped us two guys. Okay, thanks for the car. We gotta hurt out. Thanks everybody hard out. And yet give Flitty from wherever he is helping tape with of all time. We need an out a half show man