Inside the Jets with Bart Scott and EA (11/13)

spoof off off off the boondocks. Your three creatin't ain't deep enough to know about Chris Hanson. Alright, take it easy there, alright, Chad first three receptions as a pro against the Tampa ben Buccaneers. Unfortunately he came at a loss. But what I want to know, and part might be able to help us out with this is what do you do with that first ball? Where does that go? I gave it to the rev the first first touchdown and then the first touchdown he celebrate the little thing. Yeah,

of course it does. That has the first tricycle first big will I mean fart Scott, So your first career interception, Yeah, that's the interception, like a game changer. Play the act all right, listen, the guy has three receptions. I'm giving him credit here. I appreciate it. Thank you. You got your feet wet, right, Yeah, yeah, but that's important. Manu. How was the nerves going into the game? What did you expect that it? You know, was a game faster? Um?

Did you see the game? Well, you know, tell tell everybody about the experience your first game. It had to be some nerves from jitters. Did you call home tell Mom, Hey, I think that's the week I'm gonna get something done? Check out? I mean, you know, well, I guess I

guess going in too. Every week you sort you sort of have those those pregame jitters just because you know, you you wake up and you play in the NFL for a living, and that's you know, that's just a crazy thought and it's just you know, something you've been working at your whole life. And um, but yeah, going I mean going into this game, I knew that I

was gonna get a lot more playing time than normal. Um. You know, I think that I like to be calm before the games, and that's that's something that I like to do and not work myself up. Um, so yeah, I think I think I just went out there, um tried to have as much fun as I could. And you know, we didn't we didn't go down there and get the w like we wanted to. But um, I think there's a lot of things that we can learn from and and uh, you know, work towards in the

weeks to come. Our player guest segment is presented by i'm a T Bank, the official community bank of your New York Jets. Chad Hanson joins us here a Vanderbilts chat handsome man. We changed his name. You can call them that. I'm gonna go with Hansen. Um here Avannabelle Sports and Spirits. You actually were in on sev of the Snaps. You knew you were gonna get a lot more playing time because Jeremy Curley suspended for four games. That was the first, the first of his four games suspension. Um,

how different was practiced throughout the week? Well, I mean, I just, you know, got a lot more reps. Like you said, I mean the Snaps, I didn't I didn't know that. You didn't know that. I didn't know that. I did not know that. But yeah, going into this week. I knew that I had to be sharp and and just just to just to get the trust and and uh of the coaches and the guys and all that. So rookie man, I'd tell you, I gotta coach him up.

First of all. The first you got to pull Josh aside. Actually, do we want to donuts any any any breakfast or anything. You gotta you gotta you gotta butt up. We gotta you gotta smooth up to the quarterback. Man. You gotta say, hey, this man, I'm not I'm not trying to say I do your job. I'm killing this guy every time. I don't know if you read it, but I'm killing this guy every time. But you're probably making catches on the prep.

Just feel but that's got to go a long way for your confidence now that you were able to take it on the field and actually get a few receptions. Yeah, definitely. I mean that's it's huge for my confidence, and I think it's it's also huge um for the conference that

quarterback Josh McCown and and all the coaches have in me. Um. You know, I think I should went out there and showed that I could play UM and you know, the moment's not too big, and you know, I think I think that's that's a good base to build off of and hopefully it's just up from here now. Curly was playing predominantly the slot, he also could play outside and the numbers. So your comfort level playing both inside and outside, yeah,

pretty comfortable. Um, you know, throughout my career though I was, I was predominantly an outside receiver. Um, so that's something that I've had to learn being here, is being able to play both inside and outside. And I think that's something that's that's come along and um, you know, I think it's I think it's been really good to add that to um my repertoire explained to the listeners what the difference is because you talked about being in the slot.

You know, you're with with a cricker defender, but also he can't really put his hands on you, opposed to being out to a side where you have the sideline, you can get outside reliefs or inside relieves because usually generally playing some type of leverage. Yeah, it's definitely tough. I mean the coverages are all different. Um, based on

being inside outside. You you gotta know, um, you know where the defender is as as a receiver on the outside, you know, the corners, the guy that's covering you, Um, on the inside, you gotta you gotta recognize if it's the safety or if it's the outside linebacker something like that. So you've gotta be able to you know, read that

and um react off that. And that's uh, you know, that's one of the things is as like you you were saying earlier, but um, you know, the other thing is being able to work in space, work in type places. And that's something that you gotta learn being a slot receiver and um, it's it's it's uh, it's definitely different. We see a lot of different guys operating inside the slot, sometimes small or quick twitch guys, and that you add some height to the position so you can use that

to your advantage over the middle, don't you think. Yeah, yeah, I think I had a you know, a big body, a big target for for josh Um coming over the middle. I think that's that's change up to you know, the smaller, quicker guys. It's currently a guy who's been able to

help you make your approach transition. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I mean all the all the vet receivers, Um, But yeah, definitely Curly he he definitely helped um me think about the position differently, um, because he goes about it differently knowing that that position is different than the outside. So he helped me think about it differently offensively. Chat Sunday against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. What happened? Peace? We've come

to expect the Jets with fast starts. You hadn't trail uh at the half since all the way back in Week two against the Oakland Raiders over the past five games. Entering that ball game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, you had not any time during the first half. So what happened against the Bucks that took you guys out of your rhythm early? Yeah? Well, I mean they're they're a good team, you know, but I think I think we're just a little bit stagnan on offense, and that's that's

something that we gotta clean up. And and definitely the penalties, So that's that was that was a huge factor in this game, and um, you know, the coaches address that and that's definitely something we need to clean up. Enough of the downer stuff, how are you, how are your approaching your your bye week. This is your first bye week. You know you're from the from the West Coast. Are you gonna go all the way back to to the

West Coast? Are you going to explore New York? As you know you're a new um bachelor here in New York and New York City. You know a lot to explore for a young bachelor like yourself. You've got the next games going on, you got the nets, how your experience, well, how your by are we going to be and what do you anticipate doing and learning or how much work is going involved? Um, I'm definitely going back to the

West Coast. I gotta hang out there the family. No, not really, just you know, I gotta go home, recharge the batteries, get away a little bit. Um. I think that's That's what I've been told, is is what the bye week is for. Um, you know, be able to recharge, Um, not get totally away because we have a game coming up in a couple of weeks against a really good Panthers team, but um, you know, just being able to get away, uh, hang out with family and um you know,

relax a little bit. What was that Kelly atmosphere experience? Like I should say at Berkeley, because yes, I don't even want to talk about the field just yet. What about your studies and how demanding it was going to a place like Berkeley. Oh, it's extremely difficult. I mean it's it's the classes are are extremely difficult. The uh you know everything that everything has to be you have to give percent and everything and it's it's it's really tough.

I mean because you'll have practice, but you know that you have you know, a mid term and essays that you have to write after that. So um, you you really do have to put your full effort into um all the all the studies and every all the class work that you do. So it was it was you took universal studies, correct, universally. Tell them what you made legal studies, legal legal studies? And what what did you take from that experience? I took that I don't I

don't want to be a lawyer. That's what I figured out. That you work hard now man, lawyers, Man, I tell you what, they're always on the clock. Um, you weren't on a lot of people's radar. Frankly maybe at this point last year at KEL. What what happened last year for you? As you took off, you became such a productive receiver for the Bears, and then eventually worked yourself into the draft where the New York Jets took you

the fourth round. Well, I mean, I think it's just consistent hard work, and I think that's something that I pride myself on and and being able to to go in day in, day out and put in as much work as is needed to to beat the opponent. And I think that's that's something that I did all year long, and and uh, you know, I'm just lucky that the Jets notice that. What about the differences and all offensive systems that you were running at Kel and now what

you're seeing with John Morton here in the NFL. Oh, it's it's it's extremely different. It's it's night and day. I mean a cow we ran a spread offense. Everything was hand signals, uh you know you but but here it's you know, sentences two sentences long, and you gotta you gotta be able to decipher um what your route is, where you're supposed to line up, and and all that different stuff. So it's it's really different, and it takes

it takes time. It definitely takes time. You bring up an interesting point because everybody's talking about it used to be that through college, um, you know, college game was a feeder program. But but it seems now that college is kind of just concerned with college you know, they're not really uh concerned with development you to the next level.

You know, how was that transition because when you talk about you know, a lot of times, you know, the viewers, they see the the offense go up to the line of scrimmage, the quarterback goes through the caden's then looks to the sideline, and the coach is pretty much doing the thinking for you. But in the NFL you have to read. You know, sometimes if the if these safeties rotating down to if you have the one on one coverage, if you have the side adjustment and the man read.

So how long did it take you to really understand and be able to get caught up to speed because you know, like you said, your offense in college wasn't pro style offense. It definitely takes some time. And that's one thing that they tell you when you get here is it's gonna take time and you're gonna you're gonna have to put in the work because it's not gonna It's not gonna come easier to anybody. And that's I

learned that. I figured that out pretty early. But um, you know, I think I'm still learning, um, you know, different ways to do things better and and being able to, um pick up on new things that that the older guys, uh do well, and I'm just trying to pick up on that help be in the same boat as our Darius Stewart, the rookie out of Alabama was drafted one round before you in the third. Yeah, definitely, I mean

we were able to help each other out essentially. I mean it was it was definitely hard for both of us, but you know, we we knew we were going through it together. So um, we were able to help each other out. And and uh and yeah, I think we're here because of that. Your quarterback at KEL was Davis Webb cross Town over there playing for the Giants back

up maybe playing pretty soon back up quarterback. Well, what can you tell us about your relationship with Davis and why you became his number one target A cow Well, I mean he only he was a graduate transfer ACCOW and and so he was only there for like six months, but in that short period of time, we became really close and then him coming here or him coming to cal he knew the it or we knew that we had to become close if we're gonna be successful, and he knew that he needed me to get where he

wanted to go, and and vice versa. So, uh, we we definitely have. We definitely had a great relationship and we still have a great relationship. You know, go out and hang out all the time. How is he ad justin the life of the National Football League? I think pretty well, yeah, pretty well, And I think it's a little bit and I think it's a little bit more difficult for him right now being that you know, his team is is, you know, not not living up to expectations.

And he's the quarterback. So he's a guy that that they're calling for. You the most popular person on the football team is the backup quarterback. And you know, I don't know. I'm looking at that team across town and I don't know if he wants to step in and that type of situation. It's a tough situation to put a young quarterback in with so many injuries, you know, not to support of a of a strong running game, not to support a compliment of a healthy offensive line.

You know that that's a tough situation to put him in. You, my friend, you have a great opportunity and what as a successful three weeks you look like? You know, while Curly is away? What what do you hope to get accomplished in these three weeks so that when you do come back, you still could be worked into the offense. I mean, you know, just get three wins. Really, I mean,

just do everything that I can say to you. I know the wins are one thing, but we have our team goals that we have our individual goals for you these next three weeks. What do you want him to look like? You know, Josh McConnell, would you like to get a couple more balls throwing your way, maybe some plays designed for you? And if so, you know, what

does a successful three weeks look like? Yeah? Definitely, I mean I think I as a receiver, I want I want as many you gotta put on your chest, come on to help you out, exactly him the ball to take you off to lunch, I promise, I mean, yeah, exactly. I just I want to be able to go out there and be someone that he can trust and know that when he throws the ball in my direction, I'm gonna come down with it, all right, So just don't keep the ball after any reception across them then all

the fields. Okay, but did you keep He kept the ball? Decona Warm up to Jesus Christ. Good things happen to people who come here on inside the Jets. So watch out for Chad Hanson and the Weeks to come. And Jay Handsome, enjoy your trip back to Kelly. Going back to Kelly. Uh, and we're gonna come right back here on inside the Jets. The Voice of the Jets Bob

was shust and will join us. All right, We're back here Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits inside the Windham Hamilton Park Eric Allen alongside Bart Scott and now the voice of the Jets Bob with shoes and joins us. Thanks so much, man, Jesus Christ, take it easy, take it easy, we are, that's the response. I normally get shoes. How many years

is this for you? Now? As far as play by play of the New York Jets seventeen, this is and let me this is an honor tonight to be on with one of the great frauds who I gotta tell you this. This for me, this is a big night because when Chubby balding announcer boy would come trotting up to his locker when his uniform is still covered with blood. You should have seen the look that I would get when I would come up and try to interview. I was to walk in sound bite right, and now he

would give me the heart time. He is on the dark side taking that check every week. I am very, very impressed that you have this kind of level of hypocrisy and have no problem just flaunting it for everyone to say. Sometimes you gotta fake it till you make it. You know what I'm saying. You're doing it trying to get that cheese. Tell you something. Boba Shusan has a very difficult job on game days because, yes, you and Marty, it's old hat, old school for you guys calling the game.

But at the end of that game, you're walking down to a press box and then you go inside a locker room, and after the Jets sometimes lose unfortunately like they did against the Tampa Bay Bucking years, you have to go up to guys and get them and those a little spots for the postgame radio show and guys like, are you looking at me? Guys like first, who whoa whoa? Whoa? Whoa whoa whoa whoa. They don't want to talk. I always talk to Marty. He never came around. That's not true.

I just talked the quarterback. But exactly so, you come to meet the third time, you know, third, fourth time. I can't be your fifth option. I just got the shower. I got. Another thing about this show is is that you're in there before the rest of the media. The rest of the media. It's got a little bit of an easier situation than environment. Is easier to handle because everybody's asking guys and there's a group of fifty or sixty.

But when you and Malty going initially, it's just you two guys, and sometimes that is a nasty there's one part of the job you don't like. That's part of the job. You don't talk to guys right after a loss. What from your perspective, Well, we want a lot though you did, there's no we're happy for the most part. But how did you view us when we came in, I mean, thirty seconds after it's you know where we are in your grill moments, your pads and we're in

there talking to you. Well, that's that's that's what it is. You know, you still emotionally, you know, it takes so much to get up to play a football game, to say, hey, I'm about to run through a brick wall, no matter

what happens for the next three hours. And you put so much and you invest so much time and energy into it, and then to be defeated is you know, sometimes you just needed an opportunity to collect yourself, the opportunity to kind of talk to your brother's first, to calm down and figure out what's going to be the message. But then you guys just kicked right in. It's like, man, can I think? Can I take my shoes all? Can I get out? My kids out here waiting for me?

And it's a balance, it's a balanced act that you have to do. But especially being on this side of understand the importance because you guys are communicated. You guys helped tell the story on the flip side too. We are live on the air. Yeah, so there's no like I'm gonna get an interview and post it to a blog hour later. We need them mediacy. I think the

players mostly understand that we agree mostly we do. You know, you got a couple of guys that you know are outliers, but for the most part, we all get it, you know, especially coming here in New York. You know, this is a difficult place to play, you know, because the media here is like triple the media that I had to deal with in in Into and Baltimore is still a pretty big city, right and you know, but you talked

about this is pay six man, it's hot. I remember Herms, Herms first or second year, Jack del Rio's coach at Jacksonville Jets play the Jaguars Old Giant Stadium. Come down the media Elbert walk right past the visitors locker room, visitors media room, go to the Jet media room. So I remember, and this struck me looking into the room where Jack del rio is going to do his post game press conference, and I'm walking by looking at five people.

There's like four or five people. There were two television cameras and like one guy in a Jaguar polo like waiting for the coach to commit. Walk down the hallway, went to Herms postgame press conference. There twenty two television cameras and at least fifty people in that room. Knowing that as soon as Herm was done with his press conference that Horde was all going into the locker room. I mean, I've been to the super Bowl before. It's not that different. A Jetter Giant New York City postgame

locker room with a number of microphones. If you turn around, it your locker and it kind of then gets broadcast just because you start talking to one or two people. Bart Scott's talking. Oh boy, it is like the flies all of a sudden converge on that one guy, and you feel like you are at the Super Bowls five minutes after you get inside. Is supported by insurance responses everything, And like she was just talking about people wanted your

responses after the game, not as much. People all know what happens is if you mess up and they know they're going to get something from you, they love to come to you. For me, I always said here at first. The first year I was here was fine. They want to come here, they want to get a sound by ha ha ha. The second year, Santonio Lager was next to mine, and I used to just be sitting at out.

Don't do with Santonio, Oh he did it. The offensive line need to block oh, man, don't give them what they want, you know, and that's the game you have to play. Man. It's funny that you know, you talk about the people in the media that that were the biggest hypocrites. You know, me and um and Randy Moss are members of the media now. But we're just trying to show you guys how to do it. It ask some balance to the to the craft. Well, I need the less. I appreciate that. That is really benevolent of

you to try to come over, man, nobody. Don't we lose all those big words. Man, I needed the sword, the fact that we never played and that was always And now you're gonna come over to the media side and now show us, in your benevolence at thinking of your care how to do this job too. What is appreciated benevolence on your twice you're a nice guy man. Now, Bob Schusing has a lot of experience with this very show because inside the Jets you're hosting for how many years? Fifteen? Man,

I took your job. I'm sorry fifteen years, fifteen years and I've got kids getting go to college things. Listen, Man, I love your voice. You know you talk about people that have great voices. You should do some voice over work for like Pixar or something like that. Man, you can give the world so many more gifts. Man, you have one of the great voices. You James Earl Jones, Darth Vader. Man, I'm telling you out, James Arrol Jones. What are you gonna drop? Maybe Morgan Freeman on it. Yeah,

he can be right now, right now. That might claim to famous if you call the Jet complex, I'm the voice of holds for me, that's as good as a guest. And that's where you start. Man. You start there, Man, where you can we can finish in pixar Um. Why has the chemistry done so good with you and your partner Marty Lions. How could the chemistry be bad with Marty Lions? Yeah, I mean if if you don't like Marty, then you're the problem. So the chemistry will never be

a problem with Marty. He's as good at guy as there is. You guys, we have a great time together. You have a great time, but your close personal friends as well. When he suffered a stroke in the summer and he wasn't in the booth with booth with you during the preseason, how difficult. Was that for you? Well, you're just worried about him. I mean, once I knew he was okay, that was fine. But and he called it, I guess other people called it a mild stroke. And

people would ask me what happened. It's a mild stroke when it doesn't happen to you, it happens to you, it's a stroke. Get a stroke. And so that was an eye opener for him. Um, but you know, he's doing great. I mean if you knew have you just met him, you know, right now and he walked in the room, you would have no idea that any of this happened. So he has made outwardly at least a d percent recovered. Yeah, and I'll tell you what, it's

so great for him to be back. He didn't miss a regular season game, and in the preseason I thought Anthony Beck did a nice job filling in. And you showed him the ropes here and those games on ESPR, So he knows what he's doing. Uh. Speaking of ESPN, what is it tepical work week like for Bob with shoes and in the football season, Uh, well, this week, you know, I've already got information coming in for our game. This week, we're doing Tennessee and l s U on

Saturday night, so some interesting storylines. Tennessee just dismissing Jones. Yeah, the fire in the dumpster gets bigger and bigger every moment. Yea. So yeah, but you know, normally it's travel Thursday meetings, Thursday night meetings all day, Friday, college game, Saturday, run to the airport, fly to wherever the Jets are, do the game Sunday, fly home with the Jets. But that's kind of the standard week. You talk about that like it's easy. Sometimes it's not easy gett into a Jets game.

Nobody wants to hear me complain about my job. Um, so is it Saturday night this week? This week? Saturday night because we've a by So oh, that's right, so I don't have to get to a Jet game. Normally it's a noon or three thirty game because you're racing to get to whatever flight gets you to wherever these guys are, whether it's back here or on the road. Right, So that will be nice for you this weekend. You'll

be able to spend something with your family. On Sunday, I will reintroduce myself to my children and you have a few children. I've got more than Yeah, I've got a handful literally shoes. What were your expectations expectations for this Jets team entering the two thousand seventeen season, and what do you think of where they stand now at the buck I think my expectations have basically colored how

I've looked at every game this season, including yesterday. You know, I don't get caught up in yesterday's performance in a vacuum the way the media did today where now it's a disaster, and look at the opportunity they had in front of them. I've tried to look at this wide angle lens since the start, and to me, I am thankful. As the broadcaster, I thought we were going to see what we saw yesterday like ten times this year. Yesterday

was the first. It's the first time this season that we have seen this offense look to me, the way it's capable of looking any week. So the fact that they have been as productive as they've been, as competitive as they've been, the games of the fourth quarter, have been as entertaining as they have been, far exceeds what I expected this season. That's the way I'm looking at it. I still think their talent level is absolutely down in the we are rebuilding towards the future phase. Um, I've

been saying this. I'll get your take on this. I line up the whole on the draft block, and you want to draft Aaron Rodgers first and Tom Brady second and Carson Wentz whatever you want to do? How far down the list you get for your draft in a jet? How many guys you gonna take before you get to get you know, you take a chet. Well, let me ask you this question. How many giants would you draft before you take a Jet? A decent number. But that's that's close. That's close because I think that I think

Leonard Williams is wanted to Williams. I think he's one of the premier talents. And I think that's the season is going. People are starting to see Jamal Adams is one of those players too, one of these guys that are going to be a superstar. I mean, I remember once when I when I saw Eat his first year, you knew that he was a year or two away from being one of the upper scheln safeties in the game and getting his first Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl berth.

But I think what's surprising me more than any is Marcus May because I think at the end of the day, he may end up being the better pro. I think he may be the guy that's gonna surprise where You're gonna have to make a decision. Is this guy going to be that? You know, our franchise, you know defensive, probably can't pay both of them exactly. That's what saying, who do you My point being thought right, like the giants in a vacuum have individual talent that more giants

gonna get drafted higher than jazz. To me, the Jets this season have been the quintessential example of the whole is better than the parts that they have found a way to kind of be galvanized around. There's nobody thought we could even be competitive them, and they are not only being competitive, they're giving themselves not only chances to win, but actually winning more games than anyone expected. They had fourth quarter leads against both teams that were in the

Super Bowl last year. No one expected that. So if I look at all of that, take all of that in, how do you then blow up yesterday? As if they lost some type of golden opportunity to make a playoff rout you're not looking at what this season was always supposed to be about wide angle lens. If yesterday becomes the overriding negative that they changed the narrative of their entire season and blew it all yesterday no wide angle lens.

What do you think with all that being said, what do you think about what Todd Bowls and his coaching staff have done this year? The changes he has made of this coaching staff have made a major, major difference, especially on the offensive side of the ball. You know, if they do end up bringing in what we all think they will next year, which is a young quarterback, the offensive coordinator they have right now, that's the offensive

coordinator you want in charge of that young quarterback. I mean, even even just give Todd credit for this and this loops in the old coaching staff. He has gotten already the best out of Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown in their respective careers. Josh McCown never played as well for anyone as he has already played for the Jets this season. Ryan Fitzpatrick in his career, has had one season of above five hundred football as a starter two years ago

with the Jets. So look at whose quarterbacks have been and then judge what kind of a job you think he's done well? I think did the fan base still get a little disappointed because you raise expectations as you see this team be competitive, and you know, you know, sometimes we are victims of the moment, and you look at this this Jets roster and how they perform. You know, I think it's based on energy and effort, and I think what was disappointing yesterday was the effort didn't seem

it was. It was the effort, but it wasn't the next level passion. It wasn't the enthusiasm. You know that you that that I have become accustomed to see just didn't seem to have the juice right exactly. And that the going forward, how does this team take that type of enthusiasm and jews to the road on the road. We've seen it. You sometimes you have to manufacture it on the road because the crowd is against you. So you have to make them that the US against the world.

But who's going to be that guy? Offensively? Because I think defensively, even though they didn't have the extra enthusiasm, I still think they performed. I think they just got tired, and I think they didn't make the places that they need to. Let me go somewhere with you that obviously I shouldn't know anything about you know about it, I don't, but this is what I think. I see that the Jets have to be at their absolute optimum level every single moment of every single game in order to win.

I mean when they have played their absolute best for the most part, that's when they've won. Even when they've been at their best, it's just getting competitive and then losing games late. No team does that. No team goes sixteen games at their best all the time. But teams that have a different level of talent. The Eagles, who right now everyone is putting in the Super Bowl. They had to kick a sixty one yard field goal at home at the gun to beat the Giants. They barely

beat the Chargers, Uh, the Patriots. We're down fourteen to the Jets. They had five wins by one possession. So to me, that's where the talent difference comes into play. Where you've got teams that don't play their best find a way to win because at some point they've got guys that can make a play and rise above the fact that they are not at their optimum level all the time. The Jets can't have any sag even in any way in their effort level. Yesterday they had a

sag and they lost a really bland looking game. Because it's about making the necessary adjustments. And Mike Smith made the necessary adjustments. And you know, he was my linebacker coach with the Ravens, and he found something in their protection and the Jets didn't really make the corrections until

it was too late. That's why he kept saying the free runners getting to Josh mcconowell after they only had so how much of that was on the offensive line yesterday and how much of that was on other guys either tight end or backs in protection adjusting to those schemes. Well, that's that's just on scheming, and sometimes you have to, you know, adjust as the game go with the game is more about adjustment. I would like to see them

you know, we call it five. Oh you know R five one to three four five gonna take their five. But what happens is when they bring getting the linebacker, then that's really six and that's where the smoking mirrors comes in. I would like to see them turn the protection that way. You can see these guys sneaking in

the middle in the A gaps. You know, the A gap is the easiest way to get to the quarterback because even if you have a running back off set, it's hard for him to get there because you can't really cut the linebacker because as a linebacker comes, you cut him, he's gonna fall right into the quarterbacks knees

and you you're gonna jeopardize your quarterback. You really don't have the angle to come across in front of the quarterback and stop to stop the stop the running because he's coming in a straight line, so he'll run through you. So that's about making the necessary adjustments. What I would have liked seeing the adjustment I would like to see when when the offense is struggling, you have to change the tempo. So I would have liked to see them

hurry up the pace, go to no huddle. You saw it later in the game, but when you see it all the time with Ben Roethlisberger, nobody has has you know, beat me more taken more for me than Ben Roethlisberg, and Pittsburgh stillers whenever Ben is struggling, two minute offense, let's go let's get in the rhythm, let's feed up the pace, and they just seemed to go at that

same pace expecting a different result. But sometimes it also takes two and three bart Scotts to get bent on the ground as opposed to one Bart Scott to get a Josh McCown on the ground. Tampa's got a couple of Barts got kind of linebacker. Well, that's that's what I was gonna one Alexander are there was kind of undersized sideline to sideline, missile kind of guys. Those guys are tougher defend. Three things happened on a Sunday. I thought that Jets, obviously we're losing the battle up front.

The line was losing the battle there. David was fantastic, and for the first time all season you saw Josh McCown never get into a rhythm over the course of sixty minutes. He never seemed comfortable yesterday until they sped

the temple up. But it was too little, too late, because when you changed the temple, then what happens is you get predictable defenses from the defense because the coach really can't change in and our personnel, right, he can't get a call in so they go to their safety calls, and their safety calls are usually a man and man's own or some type of zone where everybody can see,

and then you can go into the personnel. When you think about the personnel, that it just happens Farren Jenkins, no matter if he's attached to the line of scrimmage or you remove him from the line of scrimmage. Those those pass rushing and those blitzers only got about six good plays in them before they start helping and puffing, and then you can't really go with that, so you have to put him back on your heels. What happened yesterday, I feel like Tampa dictated the pace of the game

to the offense and not the other way around. And they slowed it down offensively too. That's what we're talking four quarters, man. I felt like I was watching Princeton play basketball already passed before you shoot. I worked with prock Heward. He was Peyton Manning's backup college football wise. Everything What a great what a great job right holding the clipboards for Payton. I mean, how good is that?

So he said that nothing's screwed with Peyton more than two linebackers up in the eight gaps with ten on the play clock because he wanted play clock down all the way as far as he could take it. Can I get these guys to tip their hand? Can I diagnose what they're in? I've got ten plays I can go to. I'm gonna pick the right one. And it wasn't so much that he didn't know where they were coming from. But with ten on the play clock or less, do I have enough time to get my protection lined up?

Can I communicate to those five guys what I need to get across to them when now I've got nose guard or maybe like a like a zero one technique in two linebackers in the a gaps. He was never and obviously it's not something Peyton Manning was ever gonna say as a player, but he did stay behind closed doors to the guys in Indie. I wonder why more

teams don't do that. I wonder why more defensive coordinators don't see all of it's with Rex and all the why'm more defensive coordinators don't see how those two guys on either side of the center are gonna screw with what I wanted segment and his course light He's almost. We might keep him on from one more segment. We'll come right back. Man, he's got to go see his hand for the kids. All right, I'll standing show tonight.

If you've missed the beginning, subscribe to the Official Jets podcast and catch Inside the Jets in its entirety in the podcast app, New York Jets dot Com and SoundCloud. We're joined this week by Hall of Fame running back and former Jet Ladania Thomlinson. As he takes talks a little bit about his time with the Jets, as well as well as how it feels to wear that gold jacket. Ladinian Thomlinson, of course, inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame last August. Eric Ellen, alongside Bart Scott and the

voice of the Jets, Bob was choosing uh. One quick note before UH, we talk a little college football with Bob and look at what the Jets have remaining after the by is this is uh. Robert's last show with us tonight. Who's on the controls over here in the corner. You're not seeing him him at home, but please, but everybody a hair a Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits give Robert a great round of applause. Also, Brittany is back in

New York City. She doesn't run this job every week, and fortunately for us, she's not going anywhere as far as I know. Alright, shoes. Uh, when you look at the Jet schedule, Um, what do you think after the bye Carolina is coming to town and then the Kansas City Chiefs teams that are desperate for wins. I mean, now, now once we get the Thanksgiving and later partners, this money time in the NFL, that's exactly right. And now you're trying to raise I mean her I'm always called

a race to ten. Get to ten. If you get better than ten, you know you're in. Now you're talking about buys, you're talking about home field division titles. But now you're going to get a lot of teams that are gonna be trying to do whatever they can to inch their way to that tenth win. And uh, and the Jets have a bunch of them on their schedule. This Carolina offense is not prolific by any means, but cam Newton can get it done on the ground. Defensively

is where they make it happen. Part they remind me of of all the Raven teams our on. It's nothing flash about what they do. But they will beat you up physically, mentally. I mean they're aggressive right off the bus. And then you know it's gonna be tough because they're gonna challenge your manhood. And it's one thing to break somebody mentally, but to break somebody physically, you know, it's tough to do. But they thrive on that. They're a

physical football team. You know, you talk about you know, you know the great players they have, you talked about. I think about the line backers, Thomas Davison, Louke Kickley. That's the first thing I'm always talking about when you talk about Carolina. Julius Peppers man, he's like seventy five years old man, but he's like Benjamin Button, he's still getting it in. He's still you know, collapse in the pocket. He still can get to the quarterback and you know

he's that he's that inspirational leader for them. Um Carolina, so far, like I said, not gaudy numbers on the ground shoes. They come at you with Jonathan Stewart and Christian McCaffrey. But McCaffrey has become a deadly weapon out of the backfield. As a receiver. They drafted him, and they drafted him to be a threat guy. He's not between the tackles runners. He's Danny Woodhead, He's Rex Birkehead. He's one of these guys that you are gonna try to get on a matchup how he's a matchup nightmare.

And so yeah, I mean, how would you defend him? Well, you know, we we you know that brings up another point. I'm remembered or you know, I'm remembering the play in the game on Sunday where Da Mario Davis came up. And you have to make sure that if you're going to play around with the quarterback and try and you give them certain looks, you've gotta be on the on the same page with everybody on the field. You know, you gotta chip a guy like him. You have to

bracket him. You can't try and take away both sides. You can't take the outer way in the vertical way. You gotta take one the other way. To do that, you gotta have your buddy protect you, you know. So to do that, you gotta make sure say, okay, I'm going to take the out and if he goes out and up safety you got him. If he crosses my face, then okay, you'll darrenly, you come and take him, and you make sure that you make it predictable. You make

him predict what he what he has to do. If he's got a two way go on a linebacker, that linebacker is gonna be a big, big trump that's in anybody. You know, I'm in and and and and what you

want to do? Also, you want to try and force him to stay in because you know that they want to get him out, So you want to try and force him to have to be you know, pick somebody up in past detection, you give some all out the type of blitz type of thing, and they'll probably release him, but you want to try and put that pressure on him to make them have to make the decision to make him have to be physical. And if if they realize that that's the game plan, they may take him

out of the game. How difficult is it for a guy in your position, linebacker or defensive end or defensive tackle facing a guy like Newton who is an enormous man, who's tough to bring down and who will tuck it and run. Well, when you think about Cam Newton, you know he has one of the quickert releases, but he's

not a He's not a very accurate quarterback. So what you wanna do is you want to play tight man and man hoping that he's gonna throw a ball you know not you know exactly where it's supposed to be and you can get an opportunity to get it. But what makes Cam Newton difficult is when you talk about the Tyrode Taylors, you talk about the Russell Wilson's of

the world. You know they don't have the height to see over the offensive line, so the same windows, so you can start the pocket and distort their vision and they have to either move up and out or retreat back to try and get vision. Camp consider in the pocket and still see over the defense to still deliver the ball. So that's what makes it a lot more difficult.

But what that being said is he believes in his physicality, in his physical gifts, so he's gonna hold onto the ball, So it's gonna be opportunities for guys to get the ball out of his hand. Much like Ben Roethlisberger, you have to make sure that you attack his throwing arm because you don't attack his throwing arm, then he's going to throw the ball either. If you're taking them to

the ground, the shoe is a real challenge. In six games stretch in the season, Like I mentioned Carolina, then Kansas City, he was a complete balance football team coming to Mountlife Stadium, followed by trips to Denver, trips to New Orleans. A New Orleans team like we haven't seen any year. They pound you with mark Ingram and Alvin Kamaras taking the NFL by storm, and then you host the Charges on Christmas Eve, and and then you're in New England. To me, again, this goes back to what

I talked about at the start. Why I have looked at this wide angle lens from the beginning. Back in April, everyone said, how many wins you think the Jets will have? Three? Four, five, somewhere in that range. But if they win a few, they'll probably win them early. Look, they got Buffalo, they've got Cleveland. You know, they've got some games at the

beginning that they feel like they can win. Then they won them early, and then all of a sudden it became a completely warped set of expectations and we gotta get out of here. Let's see you next week. He'll be back. Today's t