The game is over and you're on the world. You play to win the game. He's got a Jet touchdown, can't win. You're listening to the official Jets podcast, Jets three sixty production Better Late than Never, Eric Gallant, Part Scott and Mike Pannell here at Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits at the Windham Hamilton's Park. You look perplexed. Hello, Hello, my friend, Low, Yeah, we're good. We're here. Okay. I don't know if ESPs picking us up, but we're rocking
and rolling because the show is underway. Here. We're way more entertained than listen to people talk about the Knicks. Are you kidding? The Knick Free Game Show? Come on, we're preempted for that. Porzingis off to a good start the season average about game I think, yeah, Lebric is complaining and crying and wine and already, but we'll see. Hey, we're here to talk about the New York Jets. So fellas and that true Mike panel opens up the show today. Thank you so much for joining us. Dude got it
back like a viewing man. Yeah, man, I could have different things behind him, you know what I'm saying. Stay in the circle in a man box hold of let me elaborate on that. And you know he's a massive girl. I could have came downhill. He could have held my double teams up. I would have plulled the double team off him. We could have made beautiful music. He got some easy on too, so they let me know he
following on that hand. And we still got a uniform for you want to come down, you know, Buffalo Thursday night. I don't know the hands. I don't know if the hamstring be ready for that though, you know, but in case of emergency, brake lash and hit me up one or two plays. Folks. You can't see this at home, but Bert came in hydrated tonight. He's got like a hundred and twenty five water jug with him. Well, you know,
it's like, what's that all about? About the dedication and making sure that you know, I never want to be the retired guy that somebody sees like, yo, bart, let itself go bro, you know what I mean? So I gotta do the important thing. So you know I'm vying now. You know the hamstrings are type because I skipped late day regularly. You know, you just go late, just go heavy in the in the paint when it was leg Dave squad day. Hankling, he says, he's been now. I mean, well, listen,
it's it's important. Listen. You want to look on on your player card. You want to make sure you're looking right. You know, you can't have a potbeling no second like showing you know what I mean. You gotta make sure you're type you know what I mean. Guest segment here on Inside the Jets is presented by M ANDT Bank, the official community bank of your New York Jets. Mike, let's go inside the facility here across the street today.
What was the message you guys were getting from the Todd Bowls as the season second half really started, because you're eight games through the two thousand and seventeen campaign. Yeah, I mean, you know, we just we have everything still in front of us. You know, we took a couple of losses these past couple of weeks, but you know, put the last game behind us, and we're on the Buffalo and we know that we still control on the future. Got two division games left, we need those. You know,
every game in the NFL to must win. How to have a months when mid set, But there's a little electric pressure on Le's not I think we're gonna pull through. Now. Do you like short week? You know, because you can forget about the loss, but also you can get right back to the business of football and understanding on the other side of that you have a mini buy where you and your lady can go on vacation. It's more
that cheese. I mean, of course, Um, you know, just getting right back to it in the pressure of the week, and you know you miss out on one of those padded practices when you get a short week, So you know that's always loved on the body. But you know it's always good to get right back to and to know that you have an opportunity just a few days away. All right, So we're bringing in though it's the preparation with the Thursday game. Everything's condensed because you basically have
two work days. Then there's a walkthrough on Wednesday, and all of a sudden you're out there Thursday night playing against the Buffalo Bill. So what did you guys do today as far as game plan is concerned, Um, watch a lot of tape, you know, went over the scheme, what we're gonna do. You know, walk through had a really long walk through. Everybody gotta work out. You know, everybody talked about the last game, but the coaches didn't really bring it up too much. It's wanted to get
it washed and get on the buffalo. I mean it should be a benefit, right because you played this football team early in the season, so you're familiar with them. You you, you guys have changed a little bit, and I'm sure they have. But speak to everybody that's out there listening about the importance. How do you get your body to bounce back? Because are you a Monday sore guy or you're a Tuesday sore guy. I'm more of a Monday short guy. But you know you know how
it is. Um, you gotta get in the cold toup. You gotta get your massages together. If um, there's more of an emphasis this week on getting in the training room if something's not right, get all the elements fixed so you can be ready on Thursday. How do you get into the cold top You jump in or someone leg at a time. Um, I actually jump in. I do full body that I put half my body in. It's better to get it over with quick. Now you're reading something intellectual? Are you? Are you never mind. I'm
sorry you girls here, what do you read? What are you reading? So you people don't understand? You know, you gotta you gotta, you gotta like blank out to be able to sit in water that's thirty four to thirty five degrees. How do how do you how do you get your mindset where you where you forgetting you go numb? Well, usually, you know, through my work day, you know, we work,
you know, six or seven hours the day. I'm usually texting or FaceTime of my girl to get through that, you know, because that's the things I gotta attend to. So you know, you know how it goes. But just just do that blanket out and just get through the coldto something that's needed to be done and extend some guy's careers. And if you got elements to get rid of it, it's like a miracle care of the cold. Very simply for what does this Jets team have to
do now to get over the hump? You're in Each and every ball game over the past six contests, you either had the lead at halftime you're tied, and four of those games you've had the advantage at halftime. I mean, you know the word and Robber Rock room is just we we just have to finish, you know, Manion times in these games, we've proven that we can play with somebody for thirty minutes, we gotta play with them for sixty minutes. So there's not really one glaring thing that
we need to fix. Just everybody just needs to finish and keep the same intensity. Because we're starting out fast. We just have to keep the same intensity through sixty minutes. Now, Now, it is it hard to stay relatively aggressive when you do have that league going into the fourth quarter knowing that you know, you don't want to give up the big play, and something times you give up the big
play because you don't want to give up the big play. Yeah, I mean, I know the mentality for a defensive line. We always want to be aggressive in an attack, and you know everybody is trying to lick their chops and get to the third down. But you know, um, I wouldn't necessarily say it's hard to keep an aggressive mindset. We just want to stay consistent how we start fast, and you know it's not like the play calls are changing.
We just have to keep and stay steadfast as we do in the first thirty minutes at the next thirty minutes. But I know you played for Green Bay, so you're you're no stranger the weather. But yesterday it was a unique day with the wing gust and the weather. I don't know what the temperature was because I was watching it from the comfort of my own my sofa. Uh probably you know, you know early on you saw turnovers happening with Matt Ryan in the center quarterback exchange. You know,
how did that the elements affect the game plan? You think offensively and how did it change your you guys mindset as far as trying to get the ball out and try and strip the ball. I think for both teams, Atlanta and US, you know, you couldn't really do too much with the deep ball. We knew they were gonna come and try to establish the run. We did a
good job of bottling that up. There's a few places we wish we could have back, but um, the elements, man, the rain, we knew there was gonna be some fumbles. Were just trying to recover those as many times we could. But throughout the week, you know, oftensive guys practicing with wet balls, kickers kicking wet ball. So it's just you know, just trying to plan for that. It was great to see Jordan Jenkins, who recently visited us right here on
inside the Jets come up with the fumble recovery. Anytime somebody coughs here, something's good, something good, it's going to happen to you. Thursday night against the Buffalo Bells, Jamal Adams also had a fumble recovery. May pick one off, you know, yeah, good things are happening. Set to get some of that good sack something, let me whatever juju I need to get well. Inside the Jets is supported by selective insurance responses everything, So you're gonna have a
good response Thursday night. And it's such a pro man. That was seamless. Man, I'm just trying to learn. I threw the drop and do that in there. I'm not worthy your response, your response to a new team here and Mike, Uh, what's it been like getting acclimated with your new surroundings and what's the environment like in that locker room right now? As you guys have endured a rough patch. But I think Josh McCown described it perfectly in the post game locker room last night. He said,
we're frustrated, but not discouraged. Um, I just think, you know, coming from Green Bay, you know it's a great locker room. They're coming here. You know, you didn't really know what to expect. But I was actually surprised that everybody, even with new players. I was one of many new players that have the first year here. Um, we're all together. Everybody has the same goal. Our rookies came in, they worked hard, there were no egos. Everybody just has the
same focus and the same goal. So we went together, and we lose together. And Um, like Josh and saying staying to everybody's frustration, it is just we all know that we could play with anybody we want to. We just have to finish. And it's just hard that it's not really like one thing like, oh we need to do this in this situation, we gotta do that. It's
just we have to finish. So I think that's what everybody's just trying to figure out right now, is how we can consistently play for sixty minutes, how we play in the first half. So what do you like better Lombardies or Rue Chris or the one Applebee's in Green Bay or all the many restaurants we have here in the New York Man. But why do we got to go after the poor people of green But but I must say, I mean there's a great pizza or the cheese curds that you have in Green Bay? Which one pick?
The cheese curds are good. But I do like all the options that you have in New York. You go to the city and get whatever you want. Do you go out with the defensive lines and sometimes and who picks up the tab? Um? I mean we have our D line dinners and you know the tab goes around. We all, you know, we all pick up each other. You guys play a credit card roulette. Nobody likes to do that. It's always designated and I'm just like, no, no, that's the And it's very difficult for people entering the
National Football League. They're not making big time celleries and you guys, but it's fun. It's fun if you don't if you don't lose. Dr card hasn't picked as the greatest night ever like those odds. I like those odds, but we don't really like to do it because the D line tab gets pretty hefty. Well you shouldn't. You should make Mohammed because he got all the cheese, and Leonard Wisin he's the first one drafting. They should put two credit cards in and that's how you do it.
I got a coaching monks think that they can use some miles credit cards, right, you know, and that's gonna help down anyway. No gas cards, I tell you. Speaking of Mohammed Wilkerson, I think the last two weeks, he's really come on. He's been playing better football. What have you thought out of the mall here? Uh? In weeks seven and weeks eight, they gets his first sec of the season against the Atlanta I mean coming into the room and the jet, you know, when we did have Sheldon,
Leo and Mo. I'm around three pro bowlers, so any time that I can pick up any knowledge from them and how to be a pro, how they practice, what works here, what doesn't work there, I just try to absorb all that. Now, Mode, I mean, he's a tough guy. He's different. He's dealing with different elements right now, that shoulder, and he definitely is so I mean people try to discredit sometimes how tough that guy is, and man, he's
just out there putting it all together. It's just amazing to watch and that really shows the dedication to his teammates in the New York Jets. All right, you're a pretty tough guy yourself. I don't know if a lot of people know about your background. Um, can you tell us a little bit about you being diagnosed with cancer when you were two years old? Um? Well, when I was two years old, I was diagnosed with well stummor cancer. They had to go to perform surgery that removed half
of one of my kidneys. And you know, I've been blessed enough not to be within any remission or anything like that ever since then. And you know, grow John normous to be able to play in the NFL. So but you went over that pretty quickly. That's something you would to deal with a lot throughout your childhood. Um, when I when I was younger. You know, when people ask me a lot about this, I have to refer
them to my mother because I was younger. You know, the matic experience, I really like blocked out most of it. I really truly don't remember a lot of it. So let's always have to refer to her. And you know, I know she's a strong lady for going through that and still pushing me through everything. Even letting me play football. And now we're here, so I mean to attached to both of your kidneys? Correct, Yes, yes, it's had to go through chemo therapy, went through all that and how
the grades of God, I've been good. I saw that you know in your in your bio that that you visit some some kids in the hospital then are dealing. And I know the cancer society is a is a tight knit society. I don't know if you have to continue to get screening for the rest of your life, but I was fortunate enough when I was a member of CBS to go down to St. Jules and really see the strength. How do you use your story to inspire some of those athletes? I know that they are.
You know, parents are hesitant when when their child has cancer to really put them in sports. They don't want to put them at risk anymore. Whenever, whenever I have like a platform to talk about that, um, I usually talk more directly to the kids to show them, to show their parents and strength within them, because it's really the e is going through it. Nobody wants to see
their child go through anything like that. I mean, when I look at it, I'm just like I don't even know how my mother, how she dealt with any of that and how she had the strength to go through it. But UM actually visited the hospital that I went through my chemotherapy with and um it was a Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, Missouri. The eight team wants a chemotherapy, yes, and they actually the same doctor who was with me through all that chemop therapy was still there. So it
was like it was like full circle. It was like a thrill moment. And there's actually this kid there. I can't remember his name of top of my head, but he was a bigger kid. He was going through dialysis, had going through chemotherapy as well, and you know, he wanted to play football, and like his parents asked me, like how you dealt with that? And I said, man, you you can't limit his dreams. You know, he always
has to have something to look forward to. And in the United States, close to sixteen thousand children under the age of twenty one are diagnosed with cancer every year, and approximately one quarter of them won't survive the disease. So when you're walking around that hospital and you get a chance to speak to those kids, what is that experience like I mean for me, it's very humbling. I mean I'm I mean, I'm very lucky, I'm very fortunate,
I'm very blessed. I mean I could easily have been one of those kids who didn't make it, Like you know, it's all the numbers game with football in life. So I mean, just the fact I'm able to make it and the fact I'm able to go back and give kids some type of motivation, Like I mean, it's a blessing. How does that change your life's purpose? You know, almost feeling like you have at lease on life and God spared your life and still allowed you to get this platform.
What do you see for yourself after the foot after the game? Um? I mean, as you know, within the game, you're not really thinking too far out of it, So I know, I just want to play as long as I possibly can, and um, I just want to show everybody that you know, you can't let something like that to turn you from your dream and your goals. And that's why I was fortunate enough that my mother, she pushed me through all that, supported me through everything, never
let me say I couldn't or anything like that. It's always why not? So what that you're saying you know, I mean you're on our set. Everybody that comes on their set balls. Oh, you may get a new contract because you may set some type of sack record you because down at how about that inside the jets is presented by e Y building a better working world? Hey, this guy's listen to your point. To your mom though for a lot of your success. Huh, no questions, the
driving force, no question. Without her, I wouldn't be here. College. You took a long road to get to the National football A long, yes, very long. What college was that was the directional college? He jumped around. Let Mike tell his story a little bit. Why. I mean, I started junior college at Scott's Community College. Go fighting artichokes? Uh, fighting, that's not on the menu. Not fighting like spinish dipper. You'll see you see this guy right here fighting artichoke.
We say it proudly. Okay, you definitely did. You're representing And then what so? Then after that, um, I made a stop at Arizona State. You know, they didn't really work out with me in the coach of staff there, and then I was fortunate enough to get an opportunity at Colorado State University of Publo which was the thunder Wolves. I'm sure you got a say about. Definitely, I got some thunder wolf like Colorado State, hyphen something else, yes,
of course. But um, you know the coaches that I met there at at Scottsdale Community College and Carlo State, Pebo I still talked to today. I mean, those guys were instrumental to my success. Um. Then I was fortunate enough to get in body to the combine. You know, things didn't work out how it was supposed to do in the draft, and I got my two of the Green Bay Packers to twenty five at the combine. How many reps now, see come on the numbers at the COMMA.
You gotta understand they take away reps. So I believe that I made I do have long arms, got a little lengthy here arms. But um, I think it listened at twenty eight. But I am going on the record saying I did the thirty three? Did you run a forty? Of course? What's the time? Now? I see, once once again we got what was it a stopwatch or was it a we're gonna I'm gonna give you the stopwatch time,
give you the later time. My stopwatch talk was four nine eight and then I'm not even gonna listen to the later time because that that was in anything that said five. I listened to it. Six four, three hundred thirty five pounds running a forty less than five seconds. That's not right. I have some moves. Yeah, you certainly did. Um, So tell me about the rotation right now and how much you and you are enjoying the guys up front and what you're being coached on by Robert not um,
I mean coaching him. He's a big technician, you know, so he's all about you know, technique, alignment, assignment. That's our major thing. We talked about it every week. Um with the guys. Now, you know, some games I'll start some games I don't. But it's always being with this group of guys. Everybody's competitive, so it's always good somebody gets a tackle. It's like, all right, I gotta get a tackle. I know when my time comes. So we're
always pushing each other. Everybody supportive. Man, it's just a great google guys. Now, you talked about the Buffalo Bills this week Thursday, talk about Shady. They're playing exceptionally well, I think, surprising a lot of people. How do you slow them down and how you walk out with the dub um. We just gotta stop shady stop twenty five, you know, then hopefully get tired on the pass off the pocket and let our rushers get to him. Well, Mike Panell, you did a great job here on inside
the Jackson. You can come back anytime and uh listen, we'll have to watch to see what you do Thursday night. All right, All, there's good. I'm getting all this right here. All right, we'll gonna be right back here from Vanderbilt's Sports and Spirits there at the Windham Hamilton's Park. All right, We're back here at Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits inside and Windham Hamilton's Park. Eric Ellen, they have parts Scott. Nice segment there with Mike Panel the big man six four
to three thirty five. Rock with him y because he get paid that big cheese. But I can't fit so you like those big shoes the I can't fit the fifteens thirteens, but as far as I can stretch my bro okay, so part uh and thanks to everyone watching right now New York dot Com. That's my mom, and it's gonna gloss over that man. We gotta get get peeps from love. Man, you get my mom around hipplause. All right, so people are watching, you would even bebook a little bit of him, A lot of love, a
lot of love for all the moms out there tonight. Uh. The Jets have reached the midway point with a three and five record. What's your take on this team as we headed to the season second half? Well, I think it's a team that's getting a lot of experience that it can take moving forward. Um, you talk about them being in close games and you're having leads in the fourth quarter. At some point you gotta turn the corner
and learn how to win those games. I think every team that's going through the process, you know, have to learn how to finish and and it's tough. It's easier said than done, because what happens is the team that's losing is a desperate football team and they're willing to do anything. And you can't be reckless because you have to try and still, you know, win the game. You can't make a mistake. They're trying to make a mistake. They don't they they don't care. They have nothing to lose.
And whenever you're playing a team that's desperate. It's always tough to do so you have to master energy. And I would like to see the Jets when they when they get turnovers, they get into other teams territory. Talk about Mattie Ice fumbling to other center snappers, exchange between him and Mac You gotta cash those in. Those have to be seven you know. I know it was tough kicking elements as well, but you have to be to take it to the next level to be the team
that may have more talent than you. Right now, we're more proven talent with experience. You have to be able to make those big plays. It comes down to one or two plays every game to your point. Those two first half takeaways, the fumbal recoveries by Adams and Jordan Jenkins, the Jets had the bomb plus territory. They came away
with three points. In the second half, the Jets started to drive at the land of forty seven the plus forty seven, they actually went backwards, didn't get anything out of that, and they also had a drive that went to Atlanta's twenty four yard line. Unfortunately McCown was sacked pushed them back. Then there's a misfield goal by Chandler Canton zero and the Jets lost the game by five points, right, So that's four possessions. Any one of those are are
capped off with a touchdown. Then it makes the the Atlanta Falcons desperate as well, because I remember they were coming off with three three three three games flying the roll, and you know, doubt starts are creep into their heads as well. Like I said, you know, talk about the elements. I think that was that benefited us the Jets. You know, it didn't allow Maddie I to drop back and survey to feel in perfect elements and throw the ball down
the field. You have to take advantage of home field advantage, all right. I thought Marris Claiborne has played very good for the Jets over the first half of uh this season. I thought he's playing really well against Julio Jones. Unfortunately he went out with the leg injury. Buster Screen was out of the game because he had a concussion. So what you saw was some Todd Bowls called is it gymnastics, some secondary shuffling where Darryl Roberts Darryl Roberts is typically
your third corner, he becomes your two. And then Robert Nelson, who was on the practice squad until last week he comes in and he's playing a slot. So how challenging is that. I know, injuries are partner of life in the National Football League's trial by fire. That's why you get encouraged about this young Judge football team moving forward because now guys like that are getting opportunities in critical situations and you know it's it's teaching tape there for
them to learn from. I tell people all the time, a veteran is a veteran not because he doesn't make mistakes. It's because he's made every mistake and he's able to learn from it. You know, you talk about some of these players that are playing back up. You know, when you go through practice, especially during the week, you're the look team. You're pretty much playing the other team's defense while everybody else is getting corrected. You know, you may go one or two deep and you may have some
some subs and some stufs come in. But that that guy that starting is getting all the coach and he's making all the corrections. He's being able to see it visually as well. Some people learn can learn on the truk board. Some people have to actually see it through their eyes, and now guys are getting experienced that way, and it's only gonna help them going forward as say mature as a team. Now you have depth, and now you force ty bowls. You you force you know them
to find spots and packages. Remember reasons have the the Drew Coleman package. Then we had the Spartan package. When we brought Eric smithfen you know, we had the Brad Smith package. And that's what happens. You know, now everybody is getting experience. Everybody is getting opportunity to play meaningful reps and it only helps his team going forward. You will hope to win some of these games, but you're getting vital experience that's gonna help this team moving forward.
So you talk about next year, guys that that that may have been backups or guys are the starters. As new people come in that you as you add people. Now you have depth. Now you have a team. Now what happens when people get hurt? You don't you know, you're not afraid of somebody coming in because he's already proven that he can he can execute. Rob Andrews and he was on the show a couple of weeks ago his first career. He fell asleep on the shop Jesus crying.
I'm still take it, take it easy. First yard receiving game. Sometimes we do pray on inside the jets, as we just did. But uh, nobody, listen. He got a nine zone yesterday. He also is showing some uh more diversification and as far as running, not one trick, pony. He still has a long way to go. But you know, you see the progress, you see the maturation. You know, yesterday they were using their speed instead of using it vertically.
They were using the horizontally, making making sure that he can run through his zones and try and hit him with passes through his zones. You know, he's gonna have to bulk up a little bit, and I think he's gonna have to develop some more. But you know, right now, you know, he's good at the two things that he does, you know, you know, using his speed, and then he's going to get a little bit more craft there as he learns how to sink his hips coming in and
out of transition. You know, I liked, Uh this didn't even go down as a catch but as a past interference. Finally at the Jets picked up twenty yards on was a double move front from Robbie. He's running off the sideline and he takes off. And those cornerbacks in the National Football League, even though they're fantastically talented as well, they can't keep up with a guy like that when he's running doubles. Well, because you gotta understand what the
Scottle report is. You know, people are gonna open up and say, I'm not gonna beat get beat, you know, over the top, I'm gonna stay low. Understand that he's the team's deep threat. You know. That's why you see a guy like Curly who who's really crafty and his route running. He can utilize his threat of speed, but he he can transition because he's more of a quick guy. You talked about Robbie. He's a more you know, long tall,
you know, strider, long strider. But as he learns how to control his body and he'll learn how to run those same routes that the Curls can do, and then, you know, then he becomes an indefensible all right, I want to talk about the quarterback position, but we gotta go to a break. Will come right back here and into the jets a break. We're back here a Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits Inside to Windham Hamilton's Park. Eric Allen apart Scott, I told you I wanted to to discuss
the quarterback position. After the game last night, Todd Bowles was asked about the quarterback situation here. He said, Josh is my quarterback, and when he was asked about the young quarterbacks, he said, I saw my young quarterbacks during training camp. Josh is our quarterback. Mike Drop. You know, I know a lot of people, um didn't agree with that.
You know, you listen to sports talk radio around the town and everybody's saying when they're going to play the young guys listen, and I try and say this and be respectful to the young backups, but um, you you have to evaluate your entire team. You can't just evaluate one position. And how can you evaluate how good your offensive line is If you have a young guy in and you talk about the competition and the schedule starting
to heat up and he can't protect itself. But also he's not delivering the ball on time because he doesn't have to experience to decipher where the ball should go. And now your offensive line is starting to give up. Sacks are not m a round starts to sink there because now their rankings are dropping and people are saying they can't block and this and that, and then oh, you know, bloo Pole is not a good running back,
or Matt Fortel and Guire can't run the football. It's important that you have a veteran quarterback that understands how to run to the offense, that understands how to deliver the ball, that understands how to hit the hot you know, it's important to evaluate the rest of your team so going forward, you can understand who's going to be a
part of this team moving forward and who's not. And you can't do that if you put a young quarterback in it's not ready to play, because now now you don't get a clear picture of what you have moving forward. People have a real difficult time understanding that. They really have a difficult time with that concept that, Okay, we're putting out the guy who we think gives us the best chance to win. And because you play to win every Sunday, I'm gonna I'm gonna talking about herman words.
But also because the evaluation of the offense, you have to look at every player up and down that roster. And who is the guy who's going to put you in the best position each and every snap. Oh, by the way, Josh McCown is completing his passes. That's the third best completion percentage in the National Football League. Okay, and I know it's not just about completion percentage, but he's getting the Jets in the proper play psional quarterback
every time out. He's spreading the ball around. So we're talking about Robbie Anderson's development, Josh mccollins getting on the football. We're talking about Austin Seferie and Jenkins having a career year. Josh mccollins getting on the football. We're talking about guys like Eric Tomlinson getting an end zone for the first time. Great play call by John Morton. But do you guys on the money, Josh mccollins on the money, Jeremy A Curse comes in here a couple of days before the season,
professional receiver. But who's getting on the football Josh McCown. And I'm not putting Josh McCown into the Hall of Fame, but I get kind of fatigued. I'm a little bit tired. It's a short week. I get frustrated as well. I know fans want to win, but you think but everybody inside that building wants to win as well. Absolutely, And listen, what are you telling me as a veteran when you put the young guy and you're basically telling me that the season is over with? So what do you think?
How do you think I'm a prepare? How do you think I'm a shut for work? You think I'm be enthusiastic making sure that I go out there. We're going out there at three and out. I'm playing eighty revs of game and you guys are telling me that we're not trying to win, We're trying to evaluate. You lose half your locker room. And what happens when you start losing half your locker room. You start having guys have
problems outside the field. Instead of a guy coming in and watching film because he's he's trying to to uh represent himself well trying to win a football game. Now I might go out to the city go hang out. Instead of not drinking, they're doing anything on my day off. I might start drinking. I might start going on Friday. You might lose half this team coming back after the bye week. They might come back physically, but then they're
not gonna come back mentally. You can't cash in and you can't push it in if you want to check out the young quarterbacks. When you get the week thirteen, week fourteen, how many games do you need to evaluate a young quarterback? They see him every day. He'll get an opportunity to do that. But also going forward, you gotta be able to evaluate your whole team, and then you'll lose your team. When you tell us you don't have to, you don't have the verbally tell us that
we're meling it in that we're trying to evaluate. You do it by the moves that you're making the people that you play. When you see a team starting to give up, the first thing you're gonna see, you're gonna see guys going I R for seemingly nothing, things that they would play through. You see guys going on I R because they want to have a built in the shoes to try and lie to the other players on the team of why they're you know, they're they're not evaluate.
We're still trying to win, but we don't want to get this guy hurt going forward, and then guy's just gonna mel it in so all these people that's playing money more than quarterback, they don't know because they haven't been in that building. They don't understand what it's like to try and convince a young man to go run his head through a brick wall, risk career injuries, risk concussions, mr, you know, to jeopardize to quality his life later in life, for for to lose. So the question is when is
the right time to play one of these quarterbacks? And I'll tell you one to answer is when they think it is the right time, when they say, hey it's time for Bryce, he's showing some things to practice whatever. And those guys, those guys are two professional young dudes. I like their approaches. Hackenberg. Hackenburg, even though people didn't get an opportunity to see him play, have stellar performances in the preseason. He definitely took some steps forward. And
Bryce Petty at a tremendous preseason. With all that being said, McCown is the guy right now. He's the best guy. You know. If you if those one of those young guys want to win, then they gotta outperform Josh and
the limited opportunities that they get in practice time. You know, why do you think that Josh McCown didn't play during practice, I mean during the preseason, because if they want to look at those guys, he played the first game, a couple of series, and the rest of these young guys got an opportunity to start, go through the regular game plan, make all those mistakes on the practice field, get coached up,
and get an opportunity to perform. And if they were to lift the world on fire, then McCown may not have been the starter of this team. So now that we got squash all that. So now, ain't sit up here, mad, I'm happy, intense, upset, and I gotta go work out after the show because I did run this morning, but I didn't lift, and I feel guilty about it. I got a flu shot today. Do you believe in that? Heck no, I don't believe in flu shot. So I want you to give me the virus to get sick
so I won't get sick. But then you tell me that, oh, this doesn't cover every flu, not every strand now you're making me feel bad. I just wanted my mutic system. You'll you'll be sick later, man, I mean, I mean, if you want to build your music system go to the New York clay and lick the floor or something. I don't know. I gotta get a flu shot. I'm
very disappointed. And people over here eating dinner. You're talking about look at the subway in New York City, you know, but you know, I'm afraid of what you're talking about. Taking a flu shot? Why I take I've never got a flu shot in my life. I've seen people get like sick. Did they get everybody in the house sick? Are you sure you're not the outbreak monkey? Right now? Get me sick, may get me sick. And now I gotta get kids sick. Now I gotta stay home for school.
Then I won't be here next week for the show. Yeah, I'll tell you what. If you come here with the sniffles next week, I would have gotten it from you. Oh, you don't blame me, You don't one I got the virus. This is just ridiculous. This is you know, Dustin Hoffman and Outbreak Right now, man, I need a body suit. I thought you're gonna talk about rain Man or something. I don't know where you're going with. I wasn't going to Charlie Babby. We can pick a lot of stuff
from them. It's a great actor. Okay, I'm actually as we talk about the flu, I'm starting to feel a little bit warm up here, right because somebody getting some peppermint tea. Um, that's all that chest here you got. You gotta save that stuff, all man. I'll tell you that all the time. Jets Buffalo Bill's Thursday Night. Are you surprised this Buffalo team that the Jets will encounter it's five and two, you know what I think? Yo? No, you know, because you know, they got the talented players
that it's never been a party. Sometimes it just takes a leader to pull them all together, you know what I mean. They cleaned their locker room out. They got rid of a lot of guys that people questioned. But now they have a great locker room. They just traded Marcel Darius to the Jacksonville drag Walls basically a camp. Yeah, exactly. They got They got rid of Robert Woods, they got rid of, you know, all these guys because they didn't think that they were good moving forward for the future.
You know, you gotta get somebody that's gonna buy into the system, and those guys weren't system guys. It seemed like Darius were just collecting a check. I mean, it's nothing that you can make me do. If you give me a hundred million dollars, there's no way you can make me smoke weed and miss that money, you know. I mean, I'm gonna make sure that I always make sure that I put you in a positive light as the team because you gave you made an investment and
a young man exactly, and he let him down. Uh, what do you make of Tyrode Taylor? I love I love me some Tyrode? You know? And how did the Jets go about? Uh playing defense against this guy? Because he's elusive, He keeps plays alive. He's very dangerous if he breaks contain. He's almost like an extra running back at times. Who is a good quarterback because he doesn't turn the football exactly, I mean, and he's not gonna
take a lot of chances. You know, I know a lot about Tyride because he was in Baltimore, so I know the real Scott and report when he was backing up Joe Flacco. Uh, what Tyrode is he He's not a guy that's gonna use his legs um to run. He uses his legs to buy time. To get big explosive players to get you to step up or get you not the plaster against shore receivers. You know. With that being said, there's certain ways that you play quarterbacks
like that. And because he's still not the tallest quarterback in the world, I think he's a little bit over six ft maybe six one maybe, you know. Um, So what you do is the quarterbacks like that, the same windows that they throw through, they run through. And it's
the way we used to play Michael Vick. So what you do is you stirt a pocket to destroy his vision, right and if he's going to have through to to to scramble, you wanted to be to his left side because most quarterbacks aren't great and throwing the ball across your body, you know, so you make him scramble that way.
So what you do is you stirt a pocket either with t E stunts and when we say t E stunts we mean that you know basically that the two tackles are just crossing and trying to get inside penetration to make him scramble. And then you run the fishook on the backside where you go underneath on the front
side and the place you want to flush too. You tell that defensive van to um take a wide deep like pass rush and the one on the opposed side is gonna go underneath, so as he gets pressure, you flush him and then you can get the ball out that way. I think you have to keep playing those games with Tyrode and make sure you plash so you have time for those stunts to work. But that's how you take on young um Mobile guys. You've gotta make
sure you don't get past quarterback depth. And it just called me, I can I can write a game place Listen. I told a couple of people today I agreed, tweeting me and saying that they really enjoyed the show that we didn't need another hour. With that being said, we gotta go to a break. We'll come back with our
final segment here on in second. All right, we're back here at Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits, the Windham Hamilton Park, Hurricane and Bart Scott um sad note before you start, man Um, just so everybody out there listening to know Selena Goldman's in the Weekend calls it quits. Man, it looks like the doors not open for Justin Bieber. He's using religion to get himself back in way to go. Beats by the way apart during the break was all over Instagram and maybe he was talking to the beats.
I don't know, well facts, he doesn't return my calls. But it's all good. Justin Bieber he's back, man. They've been spotted everywhere. I mean, listen, this is a show full of useless information, you know what I mean, it'll help you win. Well, you're breaking the useless. That's all good. And this is a lot of people out there that care about Selena Goldman's and the Beefster and his new found religion. You know, he doesn't hang out with money
made other anymore. You know, he squashed that because he's getting his life together. And maybe she sees that. I mean, that's I'm just hoping that's just firing to remember when Money may Weather visited you guys the New York Jets. Yeah, he's like a micro MINIPI man, Like, what do you think about that? The world smaller his hands? And I thought I was shaking two fingers. Visited Rex Ryan's crew back and what maybe two thousand talk about money. He's
such a I guy man. Man. Narcissistic is an understatement. Yeah, I got love for him too because I'm from Michigan. Yeah, I mean, he had a great career, but with that kind of McGregor fight, Come on, hey man, listen, you ain't nobody in here gonna turn out three million dollars to fight a bump alright to drive of the game. The trip of the game is brought to you by Antigua. Yeah and a Barbauta. Uh, the beach is just the beginning.
And speaking of the the beginnings, the Jets last three weeks now opening drive touchdown for John Morton and company, and this one culminates, Uh, Josh McCown against the Atlanta FLA Skins throws a bullet out of play action fake too, Eric Thompson's first first career touchdown. Yeah. Man, you talk about that fifteen play script coming out, getting into the rhythm, you know, changing the personnel, changing the formations, and to end it with with a with a touchdown, they just
set the right message. I mean, I think it energizes the defense and they want to come out and play well and I think we can keep this going. But you know, that's how one of these fifteen play drives, like in the third or fourth quarter coming out. You know, when you can able to get back on the script, that's another opportunity to go on another long drive because you can script the first fifteen plays coming out of
the out of the tunnel. If you well, I messed up, Hey, you're good, I forgot They defer, yes, so they can't get it. So when they when they stop them three and out, then they can go with the fifteen play drive. Fan Duel Fantasy Analysis brought to you by Fan Duel. Have all the Annessey that football has to offer. How about Austin Safari and Jenkins again, I'm going back to him. He's got three touchdown receptions. Maybe the Jets can get him in the end zone this week. Uh. Josh mccowin's
got a pair of touchdowns on the ground himself. Uh. Jets offensively, what they gott to do against this Bill's defense that is turning people over left and right. Seventeen takeaways on the season for Sean McDermott's crew. Well, bat ball, securities, job security. You know, Matt Forte talk said that, hey they didn't run the ball enough. Okay, oh man, here's the ball. Go ahead and put us on your back. Then you know, so hopefully we get a lot of
Matt Forte. You talk about a short week. You know, guys really can't put in a lot of new stuff. You can put a couple of trick plays, a couple of defenses, um, but pretty much, you know, the familiarity with each other is just gonna be the key. So you just gotta go out and execute. And you know, it's always advantage to the home team because they don't they don't have to travel um and hopefully the Bills
are coming in limping in filling nice and sword. They don't have the opportunity going to cold up twice because the hotel doesn't have a cold toup and the Jests need to double the book on this Bill's defenses. They play a lot of his zone and the back end try to keep everything in front of them, no big plays, and that's why it's going to be important that you established the run. So then that's that that safety that
eighthman in the Boston try and get down. And I'd like to see them move um Robbie Anderson around a little bit this week because you know, now they're going to try and game plan understand that he's a big threat. They're gonna try and be physical with him at the line of scrimmage. Put the safety over the top. Carl Michael Hide is a great He's got five interceptions, and that's just because he's playing center fielder, you know, because
he's helping out. So I would like to maybe see them put Robby Anderson in the slot where you can't put your hand on him. And also it gives him the whole field, so instead of having to run underneath to get across the field, he can run those big
old speedos that you know creates explosive plays. I don't know if Jordan's player is going to play this week for the Buffalo Bills, but they do have an oppressive safety duel with the A fourmentioned Hide and well listen, and that's what I was saying is that Thursday Night football, this will be a chance for Jamal Adams, Marcus May, some of these young players here to play on national
television for the first time as NFL players. It's where you make your fame at you know, you talk about big games and the whole league is watching as we earn the respect of your peers. So if these young guys want to make a name for themselves. You know what a better week than Thursday night football when you have the whole eyes of the of the sports world
watching the color rush. Uh. So the Jets will be in old green and and the Bills won't be in red because of color blind right at that people can tell some some people couldn't the distinguish the difference in the uniforms. So the Bills will be in all white. What do you think about the Jets all green uniforms? Man?
That makes a nice switch up. I mean I like to see them bring the throwbacks back every once in a while, maybe bringing back the old boomer size and green helmets with the jet on the side, you know, and kind of modern eyes it a little bit. You know, Nick, he has a huge budget deal with wood, he owns baby powder, so they should be able to, you know, find something. Uh Thursday Night Jets, Bills, Jets. What would
a win do here for this team? And say I think I think it puts them back on track and saying listen, we let some games get away from us, but we're right back in the thick of things. I don't think, you know, by any means as the New England Patriots look like world beaters, and everybody's able to be got. You know, you just gotta you know, you
gotta win one, especially talking about these home games. Thanks to everybody who came out tonight and Reel Sports and Spirits and Mike Panal, that's all everybody,
