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EA Podcast: Episode 26 with Chad Pennington

Dec 17, 201625 min
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Former Jets QB Chad Pennington and Eric Allen break down Bryce Petty's play against the 49ers.

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All right, let's bring in our quarterback, Chad Pennington. Chad. Bryce Petty made its second NFL started against the San Francisco forty Niners. Admitted he was nervous early through an interception on his first pass out on the West Coast. Was sacked four times in the first half, six times overall. But I'll tell you what, he was gritty in the end as the Jets overcame an eleven point fourth quarter deficit.

What did you like most about pettis start as the Jets moved to fort nine Leric, I was happy to see the intangibles. I think the intangibles are things that as a staff their hearts to evaluate and and and certainly not only evaluate, but uh teach and coach. You can't coach those intangibles. And so you can coach fundamentals, you can coach scheme XS and the host. You can't coach intangibles. And so I was really proud to see how Bryce Petty fought through the adversity and fought through

the ugly art um. The game couldn't have done any worse for the Jets as a team or for him. It reminded you of the Monday Night game against the Colt But Bryce showed moxie, he showed fire, he showed grid, he showed determination, and I think that energy and synergy from Bryce bled over into the team late into the game that allowed the Jets to come back and and

score the victory, which I think is important. Yes, therefore and nine, Yes they're not going to the playoffs, but right now, from evaluation purposes, you want to see what your team has made up and how they're facing adversity. And it was good to see Bryce and the team face adversity and overcoming. I think that's a really big positive to build on. Everybody's got a different definition for it. But what does it mean? Do you want a guy

a young quarterback says he was nervous? Is that just meaning uh, he wasn't seeing things very well they're early in the game because uh, emotionally he was on such a high and you wanted to do so many good things. I think, first of all, nerves come from the desire

to play well and to impress. Bryce knows that he's on an audition right now and that his lifeline as a Jet quarterback, Uh is on audition, and and he's being evaluated for that, and so, uh, you have those nerves because first of all, you want to play well. I don't think it's something that where you're scared. You just want to play well. And sometimes having those nerves can make you tentative. Um, it can cause you to make a bad decision here or there because you're a

little bit hesitant or your second guessing yourself. And then once you get into the flow of it, now you're just reacting and playing. And that's what happened to him. The newness of another start game day. It's all different. It's completely different than preseason, completely different than practice. It's just different because the adrenaline's pumping it now really really means something, and you're on the road for the first

time as a starter. So all of those things just part of being a human being learning how to deal with those things and trying to settle down as quickly as possible and just realize that it's just another football game and it's just about executing your job. Where is he right now? In terms of pocket awareness, you know, when people say six secks, a lot of folks are

just gonna say, well, it was offensive lines fault. You know, as a guy who's been out there, and I know since I've been in a locker room for so long, is that you know blocking extends beyond that guy's got to get open. The tight ends are part of this deal. So are the running backs and then ultimately the quarterbacks responsible for getting the ball out on time. What did you see from Patty in terms of pocket awareness? Well, from my perspective, I think those six secs were um

combination of factors. Sometimes they recovered sacks, sometimes they were offensive line issues, sometimes they were quarterback issues. So uh, they all went hand in hand to produce a total of six sacks um. His ability to escape, we were able to see that he made some big plays, not necessarily with his feet down the field, but escaping the pocket and extending the play being able to make down the field throws. That was good to see. His pocket

awareness for the most part, Uh, was good. It wasn't excellent, but it wasn't poor or terrible either. Some of those times that he was sacked, he didn't have a chance because it happened so fast and your your eyes are down the field. And the good thing is is that some of those sacks I would be more concerned if he was running away from those sacks early because I know that his eyes would not be down the field. Some of those sacks happened because it happens to you

so quickly. Where you're focused down the field, you don't have a chance to react. And so when he's making a sack, because his eyes are down the field, he's really honed in on his read. That's okay to me. That's where the protection has to be better. That's where the route running has been better, uh, for the quarterback to get the ball out of his hands. So I did not see that as a glaring weakness. Let's talk

about two plays here. Uh, how impressed were you by the running the two point conversion run Jets down seventeen twelve late in the ball game. Of course, they go for two and they ended up needing that because Nick Folks fifty yard or sent this game into overtime. But blah, Paul told Bryce before the snap, babe, you might have to be ready to tuck it here, and he certainly did. He got in. And then when we talk about Maxie,

how about the throne overtime to Robby Anderson. Where As you just mention, if you watch the replay, Petty kept his eyes down the field the whole time, so when he's rolling left, he never took his is off the field. He never looked down rolls left. A lot of people staid threw across his body, but actually he threw it across his body a little bit. But he squared up when he threw that ball and on one on one

situation to a guy he trust, and Robbie Anderson. I think that if that's a veteran making that play, everyone feels a little bit more comfortable. When it's a younger player making that play, they get nervous. I agree it was not technically a complete across the body, across the field throw. Bryce Petty's on the left sideline. That throws completed around the left numbers. That's only about twelve yards from sideline to number, So, um, that's not that big

of a deal. I was impressed that he ended the play and then going to his left, he got his shoulders back around, set his feet and made an accurate throw to obviously a receiver that he trust. We've seen that now with the Rice band under center. He trust Robbie Anderson, and that's important, um. And that's where you can see. Uh, the game of football is about that trust that you have in your teammates. It's not about necessarily the exs and ohs. Sometimes it's just about I

know this guy is going to make a play. And Robbie Anderson has made plays for Bryce and you can see that he trust him in that instance. Um, the other thing you're talking about with the two point conversion, that's the grit, that's the determination, that's the fire in your belly, so to speak. Um, that you have to have. And and he showed that and that was nice to see. And let's not forget Nick, folks that that was a

big time field goal. Uh. To be able to make that in San Francisco with a game where most fans don't think that it matters, to be able to go on there and make that kick and put that game into overtime. Uh, you know, kudos to him for making that kick. Yeah, Putty made a number of plays that

jumped out to me. I think in the first half his best throw was actually a little out route to Robbie Anderson where Chatty threw the ball before the receiver broke And as you know, that's what you have to do in the National Football League, uh is, get that ball out and have trust that your guys gonna be there.

And as he settled into that ball game on that key drive when they were down seventeen to six, well before Bilal Paul gotten into the Enzo on the first time and Petty cashed in with the two point conversion. There was a third down, third and three where he picks up three to Robbie Anderson Dunner was the fourth down play that I think a lot of people forget that that pocket was closing in on him and he kind of used his feet, didn't panic and found tehron

peak for a big fourth down conversion. And then finally, how about the Jets had five catches from their tight ends of Patty's twenty three completions, including that one on that same drive to Austin Sofari and Jacobs where he told me in the locker room, that'say, you know, I was mad I didn't score, but he actually converted a second and twelve. So I just threw a lot at

you there. But there were there were a number of plays from Rice that I think you can look at and say, well, they stand out, and that has the looks of something you can build off of. It does. And the reason that it does is because it wasn't about the scheme or the xs and ohs. The fourth down play that was an extension play play and over time was an extension play. Um the grittiness with the two point play, all of those things. Uh. San Francisco

had good defense on all of those plays. Yet Rice and his teammates were able to still make plays, and so that's important. That's what you're trying to find when you're evaluating the quarterback is can he help us out? Can he bail us out in situations where quite frankly, the defense does have us covered. They shouldn't in that down, but they don't because of the athleticism and the moxie

of the quarterback. And that's what separates as you get older as a quarterback, that's what separates the great ones from the not so great ones. And so, uh, you know, no one including my self, is ready to crown him next year's starter or saying that he can play another ten years in this league. But at the same time, you were excited about what you did see a little bit in the in the in the game to be able to bring the Jets back to week. What do

you want to see from him this week? Is he makes his third start now second at home against the Miami Dolphins. Chan Gailey, the Jets offensive coordinator, was asked about it yesterday, and you won't be surprised by this. Uh. He said, I want to get more comfortable, get more confident, read better basically, and then he said everything. So obviously that's where a coach is at. And Bryce would be the first one to tell you I can improve in

every area, but specifically Chad. For Jets fan and the way you watch a game, what do you want to see from him now? Is he takes another step forward. I want to see two things. First of all, I want to see um Vice and the offense get off to a better start, because that will tell me that he is getting more comfortable. Uh. And then he is making progress and improvement on making those reads and and being in sync with the things he's being asked to do.

UM that happen. If that happens earlier, now you can really see the progress being made. Secondly, I want to see him make more passes and not throws. You alluded to the one pass where he's let it go early through the Anderson on an out route. I want to see more of those type passes because that is a pass a throw and somebody's wide open, they've already broken, They're sitting down in a hole. Uh, even I can

still get there. But a pass is one that has thrown on time with accuracy, may have to be over a defender early and the and the receiver comes into the whole. The anticipation of it all. Uh, taking a little bit of mustard off the ball and handing to some fit and some touch. All those little things that you want to see. That our true passes, and it's something that you have to be able to do as

a quarterback to survive and throve in the NFL. Fascinating matchup this weekend as the Dolphins come to town Saturay night. They're in the playoff hunt. They're now going to matt More because Ryan Tannehill suffered knee injury and he's gonna be out at least a couple of weeks. We'll have to see if he's able to return this season. But the Jets feel like they let one slip away from them in Miami early in the year. But this is

a totally different ball game. Both teams are playing different quarterbacks, with Bryce Petty and Matt Moore now the controls. Ironically, Chad, this is Matt Moore's first start since the final game of two thousand and eleven season. Who At that time he Matt Moore was playing for Miami Dolphins led team uh by Jets head coach Todd Bowls. It was an interim head coach in Miami two thousand eleven, and then earlier that season, uh Matt Moore actually started at MetLife Stadium.

The Jets beat him twenty four to six. The Dolphins won that last game. But this guy hasn't started a ball game in uh five years. Todd Bowls definitely has a lot of respect for Matt More, like I said, lined up with him back in two thousand and eleven. UM. But before we talk about more, because you'll have some insight on him, I want to ask you about Blah Paul unbelievable game. No Denine a hundred forty five yards on ground, two touchdowns UM obviously the game winner and overtime.

He also helped out on the receiving end. Right now, he's got seventy eight carry's on the year. He's averaging five point eight yards of pop and he's just teams the Jets third leading receiver in terms of receptions with forty two. What do you make of a lot of people now fancy and this guy is great. We got to get him the ball more. Well, he is great. Will not deny that at all, but I think you have to be very careful uh and underestimate the punishment

that running backs take throughout their career. And the reason that he's been able to be so successful for the Jets for six years is because of the limited touches. And it's similar to Darren Sprowls, where you want to have just enough of Darren Sprowls, but not too much, not only for himself but also for who you're playing. Because the more you see of a player, the more

accustomed and acclimated they get to that player. And so that's part of the X factor that a guy likes Rolls or pal brings to the table is that you don't see him every down, but when you look at his touches, his touches are extremely effective. You know, close to a hundred touches and rushing forty up in receptions and he's playing even more than that. That's just touches alone.

So his presence is certainly being felt. He's been extremely productive, but you just cannot overuse a player like bal Plow because then you lose his productivity and effectiveness and you you use him up too quickly. Uh what do you anticipate we're gonna see from Matt Moore? And how you approach this if your tie bowls? You know this guy very well. Uh, he's a consummate professional and that's why he's been able to stay in the league for so long.

But he is making a first start in five years, well, no question. Uh. You know, Matt Moore has been a staple in Miami for quite some time now, and he has actually provided some stability there with turnover and staff. He's been able to help Tanny Hill in the quarterback room, provides stability there as they went through different coordinators and coaches, and so that's that's been very important for the Dolphins

and Matt Moore has brought that to the Dolphins. I think playing him that more, you have to understand that you're not going in playing against the young guy. Uh, You're not going to just completely confuse him or do any of that that you would against the young player. You have two approach as if you were playing against an everyday starter. But with Matt Moore, you know that

he does have a gun fingerman talent. He may take a couple more chances than Ryan tanney Hill would take, and so the defense will have an opportunity to make some plays and possibly get some turnovers. And that's one thing that I'm looking for from the defense is to have a few turnovers. The turnover barrel has been dry, uh for the last few weeks and really for the entire season has not meant where you would want it to be, and so you would like to see that

happen this week. Is there anything the high coach can do? You mentioned it with Patty. You want to see him in the offense come out and start faster. Well, both sides of the ball and special teams for that matter, got to start faster. If you're tied bowls who've seen it all as both as a player and as an assistant. Now he's in the second year as an NFL head coach. Is there anything you can say to the guys beyond repeating the importance of it. Is there anything you can

do to help that process along. Absolutely. I think the focus this week is is building on the victory in San Francisco and showing consistency, not showing the roller coaster ride that this season has been. And these last four games can show uh, some of that consistency and and have players proved to the staff that they deserve to be there and that they're getting better, They're improving, they're creating more consistent play and a better product on the field.

That to me, is what this game, as well as the next two after this game is all about. Is it's not even about me and a professional football player. It's just about being a man and men a professional and being as consistent as you can, be improved as much as you can, and not let any opportunity flip by to get a win. It's extremely important to win football games. Um. That builds confidence, it breeds success at builds momentum, and quite frankly, it puts good film out

there for you as an individual. That is a good thing all the way around, even if you're not going to be a jet. So I think that's what this boils down to, and you would like to see this team capitalize upon the momentum that they gained in the fourth quarter against the forty Niners and take that into

this game against the Dolphins and come away with a win. You, as a player, do you really think to yourself, it's somewhere in the back of your mind with the preparation and after the good feelings of getting a victory over the forty Niners and looking ahead so hopefully getting your second consecutive win, is it on your mind to knock the Dolphins out of this playoff phrase? Um? I think it's just on your mind to win. Um. Who cares about the other team or what they have going on.

It's just on your mind and to win. It's just such a better feeling for the team, for yourself as an individual to come in Monday morning after a win and actually feels good about the hard work that you put in. It's so deflating to work so hard from Monday to Saturday and then you have to come back in the following Monday morning with the result that you didn't want. That's just deflating, and that's difficult for anybody to deal with, especially in the NFL, because that's all

it is about, is wins and losses. We're talking about livelihoods. We're talking about families being fed here, and so you want to win and you want to have that feeling. And you know my argument here is I hosted Inside the Jets with Larry Harristy on ESPN Radio Monday night. We do that each and every week and we also stream a live in New York just dot com, and one of our guests was Quincy and Norta. I looked at the camera and I said, hey, and I look

back Quincy. I say, Quincy, what round were you drafted it? And he said sixth And I'm like yeah, and you've going to copy for right and you went on a practice squad. So my point was the two captains, did you find it symbolic? The two captains he had out Todd Bowls had out in San Francisco were both a four mention Quincy Una and then Mike mccagnum's first overall pick, which was Leonard Williams. Of course, because those guys figure to be corner stones or your future, and they also

bring a professional approach and their young players. But my point about the draft, uh bit to bring this all the way around is who cares about your draft order? Right now? You have to continue to develop guys like Quincy and Nona. Who is the next Quincy and Nona on this team? And I'm excited a little bit. I gotta tell you to be honest with you when I'm watching guys out there like Darrenly make some mistakes on some of those gashes early against the forty Niners, the

first round pick last year. But he comes back in the game and he's learning from his mistakes. Uh, tremendous athleticism. Jordan Jenkins picked up his first career half sacked last week. A third round pick out at Georgia. Justin Burris got his first extended action on defense. He's also a draft pick, a guy who they want to see more this week, Chad.

Then you go on the offensive side of the ball. Uh. You can talk about all these young guys who have been forced into action this year because the Jets have dealt with injuries. But now we're seeing some of them developed. Wass Lee Johnson playing at center doing a fine job. I think we might have to see Brandon Shell. He could start. He's a fifth round pick. He could start at right tackle this week and then at the wide

receiver position. The Jets carried three rookies this year. Robby Anderson is the guy getting the big numbers right now. But don't forget about Peak, who made the fourth dunk conversion.

So my point, then I've being a long winded and I have a lot of enthusiasm here is player development can come from a first round pick like Leonard Williams, wh was considered the top overall guy on many people's draft boards, but also can come from Quincy and Noonaw and it also can come from an undrafted free agent like Robbie Anderson. So these games are all important. And I don't think if you're a fan right now, there is no Andrew Luck coming out in the draft. Okay,

that's just my opinion, you guy. You just got to enjoy it watching these guys now and then we'll handle the draft in April. Well exactly. And the draft only matters to two people. It matters to the personally undrafted because that is a difference in money, and it managed

to the owner who has to pay the money. Other than that, when it comes to evaluation, the great thing about the NFL doesn't matter where you were picked, where you went in the draft, whether or not you were a free that has no thing to do with anything. It is about production, that is it. And so that's

why you're a complete evaluation process is so important. And um, when you're talking about rookies, you know, most of the time in this league, when you do draft these rookies, you're only really expecting some quality uh production, but really you're hoping that they avoid disasters more than that they produced for you as rookies, because you know, it's such a high learning curve. The only two rookies you've heard about this year essentially in the NFL are two people,

Dak Prescott and th Ki Elliott. That's it. You really haven't heard about other rookies so to speak on a consistent basis, because most of the time rookie performances are up and down and that's to be expected. And so for organizations when they have these high price rookies, they want to they make sure that uh they set the expectation level correctly, that they want to make sure that

their solid production there. But most importantly, we don't have complete disasters and we see that we have a foundation to build upon, and so that that's important. So your whole evaluation process, really your evaluation process is more important for your third, fourth, fifth, six, seventh round draft picks and your free agent more than it is with the first and second round. Those guys scrutinized so much. You could pick anybody and have a have a decent player,

or have a shot of having a decent player. But you're later round. God, that's where the depth of your team and your quality of your team comes from. Well, said, enjoyed it. We're getting some snow up north. I hope you guys are staying warm themselves. We we are cold. We are cold, and we are kind of mimicking your weather except for the snow, so I will not be bringing any warm weather with me this weekend. Said, uh, we look forward to seeing that not. Let's stay

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