EA Podcast: Episode 21 with Bart Scott

lose because I don't. I don't have a permanent record, and I'll be done at four o'clock, so I'll go in at UM twelve. And I think this year we're gonna try something different. Um the wife and the family, just something intimate. We're gonna stay in the city. Uh, she's gonna cook Thanksgiving dinner at home. We're gonna bring it to the hotel with us, and we're gonna roll around in the city, probably go look at the tree

lit up. What the tree doesn't get lit up to the Wednesday, We're gonna probably go ice skated or something like that. So I'm gonna do something kind of fun, you know, trying to switch it up a little bit and let the kids look at the lights and you know, hang out now, you were saying, and before that, the way your hotel is situated is that you might be able to see the parade, the Macy's Day parade go

right by Thursday morning. Right, Well, I thought I could because I thought I thought the parade went through Fifth Avenue, So I was gonna get a room at the Peninsula. You know, I got a connection there. But I think it goes down the Broadway, but I'm still on fifty four, so if we want, we can kind of just step out and see him go by on fifty I believe we coach throt or something like that, so we can check it out that way. But you know, it's only

an easy walk. It just depends on if the wife wants to be dealing with all the craziness, because I'm sure it's gonna be barricaded and you don't have to

get funneled and stuff like that. The funnest time we ever had is, or the most access we had, is we had like a roped off part at Trump Trump Hotel right there in the circle right where it stops, you know, So that was cool, But you know, you're out there a long time holding kids, on on your head and it's one of those things that sound good but unless you got like the bleacher seats or something like that. Yeah, Like Saturday, it felt like the world

was coming to an one. I was down in Maryland, was seventy degrees and a couple of hours later and the winds started whipping. The sky got dark and ominous. It's like the end of the days. Man. I was like, oh man, what's going on? So you can't eat Thursday though, because those guys, I've seen the spreads that you guys have you treated pretty well at the NFL today. How are you going to refrain from taking all that in? Well? You, well, you know what. We have the early game, so we're good.

So our game, our game started at twelve o'clock. We got the first game. It's always you always hope when you have to work on thanksgive, you always hope you got the first game. Because you got the middle game. Then that's that's even worse because your game starts at the four you have, which is good game this year. That's one of those crossover game. Yeah, and it's a great game for me because I grew up in that tradition,

you know, I grew up, you know in Detroit. You know, it was always something that we could be proud of it because no matter how bad we we were, the people we were the two teams. It was usually it was only two teams. You know, back in the day. They just added the third team since the whole NFL network became more popular. But it used to be Detroit at twelve, Dallas at four, and it's still that way. Did you ever go to any those games? So you just watching on TV and watching on TV family members

that went to that game. But we have a parade in Detroit as well. But for us, it was the Turkey Bowl. We go out and play football before the actual game actually come on. So you guys were playing the morning because we were talking about your turkey Ball last week. Is that you guys would get out there in the neighborhood before, like you said, the twelve thirty games, so you're probably playing what ninth thirties, Yeah, the little turkey game. Go out there, has some fun, get all

louther dup get hungry. You know, you know the food isn't ready at twelve o'clock my first game, but you know, you start smelling the smelling the food. You eat a good breakfast. You know. Sometimes you wake up everybody make the biscuits and the pancakes and and the bacon and the sausage and the ham and the hash browns and the grids, and you go to town that way after the turkey d you know, after the turkey bowl, you know.

But you know, it's just a fun experience with the great thing about thanks Giving and why I like things giving a lot more than I like Christmas, it's because it's not about receiving something. It's about fellowship. It's about spending time with each other. It's about you know, stopping and reflecting about how blessed we are, how fortunate we

are to be. Whatever situation you are, it's always somebody that's willing to trade with you, that thinks that they have it worse, that would love to trade with you in any time. So it puts, you know, Thanksgiving put you in the right perspective. I think Christmas is too commercialize. It's more about you know, what we get and measuring ourselves by the gifts that we give to others. Speaking

of that, do you do anything on Black Friday? Hell no, no, because I can't stand I'm not about that like, I'd rather wait three months and get on discount, and I'm not about to sit up there and be fighting over a toy. So the Scott family will will not be out Friday. Shot about that when you guys be back, because you're talking about some family coming to town, right, are you gonna have like a post Thanksgiving celebrations that

you guys will be in the city on Thursday. Well, we've always used to to that situation, but usually you know, I have family come down and visit, you know, so they haven't and once I come home from work, I kind of joined with it. But this time me and a wife wanted to try something different, something in me

with the kids. See how we can just be together, have things, giving dinner and actually been the city and mess round to kind of played to the fact that I am in the city and then they don't have to worry about, you know, taking an hour and a half of me to get back. I'm already there, you know, soon Stu is over with. I come straight from the studio, which is probably two minutes from from where the hotel is, and we can just kind of have some fun. Who

were your favorite line players growing up for Loman's Brown. Yeah, Lomas, Luther Ellis, I'm going all the way back, um, Herman Moore, Brett Perriman, Johnny Morton when they were fun, when everything was wide open. I can't stand Scott mentioned yeah but yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah but he oh man, he was. He was like the Rob Johnson side. And he had one great year with Miami, you know, uh, cashed in and came to Detroit. The whole left. Yeah. Herman Moore was

a beast. Brent Perriman was like a you know, it's funny because Perriman is playing for Ravens now his his son, and Johnny Morton. It was exciting because you had Luther Ellis, you got Chris Spielman, you got Robert Foscha. Yeah, you had the Blade brother, you had one of the Blades, you know. I mean, I don't know who which one it is. So it was Benny. I think it was Benny Blake, you know. So it was a time where the Lions were actually pretty good. What about Barry? How

old were you when Barry was in his prime? I mean I remember in high school playing at the Silver Dome, and I remember Barry was like getting busy three too, because they were coming out the field from practice as we were going for our game. He's like, get busy three too. It's like, yeah, yeah, Berry said something to me. So like you gotta think with you know. That was probably like two years before he retired. I think Barry

got in and maybe ninety or nineties. Yeah, Barry maybe got in the league at like need ninety one something like that. So, yeah, I watched all the Barrio's career because at that point I was watching football all the time. What does that mean to you? And he just randomly pick you out and say, yeah, I was walking by. Yeah, I guess you can always tell who the sweet player.

But high school I had my girl, I was looking sweet, you know, and I had three to you know, thirty twos usually, and in high school you can tell the numbers of the players because you know, the players get to pick the number they want. So you see guys with ten, eleven, thirty two, because you know everybody you don't have to wear a number four position, so guys want the sweet numbers, you know what I mean? Sometimes seven three. You know you ain't gonna seen No. Forty five,

seventy five. You're not respecting that in high school? Who though, who was winning? Thirty two? Thirty two is my number for everything, man, So it was Magic Johnson's number. It was like thirty two was like all the sweet players back in the day was wearing thirty two two. I think so, yeah, Magic war thirt two. You know he's

from Michigan. You no doubt you ever wonder what it'd be like, uh, tackling a guy like Berry from your perspective as a linebacker, it was one of It was the most disappointing thing in my career because he quit so early. I just wanted a chance to take a shot at him, did you you know what I mean? And I think he retired. I think Bard retired and like two thousand, two thousand or two thousand one. I got the league in two thousand two. What did it

mean to you? Could you imagine that he's said something to me in high school and I would have had an opportunity to tackle him? What do you say that anything to him? I have to tackle him, you know, or miss him. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean I would have. I mean I would have been one of those guys like Barry. Can I please had his jersey please, because differently did that start the jersey stuff? Oh? Like now, because I talked about that the NFL too.

I don't know, it just started happening, maybe a couple of years ago because of these guys like that. You don't seem like a guy that would you would be good with that. I could see you doing that with Berry Sanders. Maybe no locker room or something. Only only only jersey I ever, I ever took on the field was one of my former teammates, like Jared Johnson, like

making me a jersey man. That's because we were we were friends, we played against each other and we both went separate directions, just going up to random guys like hey, j j let me get to let me get your jersey. That's that's I don't know. You see it happen all the time around here, like dude, you just lost and now you just high five. And I couldn't this man,

I took it so serious. I couldn't. I couldn't after wards, I can't sit down and we can't pray together, like no, no, it wouldn't be No, I'll say my Lord's prayer when we get in and we say the Lord's prayers the team. I'm not holding your hand and talking to you. Coom bay y'all, No, bro, I just try to kill you

Detroit six and four. Do you obviously obviously you're a commentator now and you're an analyst now, but the part Scott who grew up there, do you kind of root for them on the side, hoping that they do well people in the community, You No, don't, don't get it. I'm confused. I'm a Lions fan, yeah, you know, I always will be a Lions fan. Um, I'm happy, you know. And Matthew Stafford is really his team now because now I call it addition box attraction because he doesn't have

Calvin Johnson to lean on. He's playing a position where he's going through his progressions. He's throwing the ball to who's supposed to get the ball. He's not just forcing the ball to Calvin Johnson so he can have his ten to twelve you know. Um, you know attempts or or or targets. So you think that just forced the growth because spottom line is when you have somebody like that, it's not a crutch, but it's just up. I can

throw it up and I know it's Carmelo ball. Let's let's get the ball to Carmelo and let's everybody watch him instead everybody feeling like, let me run my route because if I'm open, you know he's gonna throw the ball to me. There is a big game for them at six and four. That and so the six and four and remember Matthew Stafford. They've been behind in the

fourth quarter. I believe every game this year that they've won, and Matthew Staffords come up big and you know, this is pretty much a match because they took Minnesota to overtime, uh last time, and Matthew Stafford made that crazy throw to get it to a field goal range for like twenty seconds ago, a couple of weeks ago, my point. So this time, you know, the Minnesota virus have been sputtering, you know, they have been sputtering downhill and they finally

got to win against Arizonia today. And now this is for the division. Whoever wins this one is in the first place in the division. And who thought that we would ever be having this discussion because right now Green Bay looks vulnerable. They just got demolished two weeks in a row. I mean, they I mean, every time Aaron Rodgers came back, Kirk Cousins came back with an equally big play, just throwing the ball down the football field. I didn't like him, but I think he's playing a

lot better. He was struggling early on this season. You know, you know I didn't agree. I didn't think that. You know, he was asking for top five money and he got franchise and he bet on himself. And you know, right now he's winning because now I love this Crowder kid. He played with so much energy and passion. He's always getting open vertically. And I watched them take at least four vertical shots they threw. They had to have Crowder played it through. Yeah, they had to have at lease

at least five plays over forty yards. And I don't I can't remember one of them going to de Sean jackson't even Sean Jackson play yesterday. But you know they went to Crowder, they went to Garth song Um. The running back was growing crazy. So now green Bay is vulnerable. So this game is even bigger because it seems like it's a two team racing this division. Now I think green Bay has done. They're old, they're slow, they're not deep, and I think it's gonna be some major decisions made

in the offset. What's coming up on today Thursday morning? Do you know yet? Because there's always something emotional that it's a tug because with the season we're talking about family and also people on need and things like that. Well, well just just think, just think about who's um, think about who's who's playing. So the Vikings are playing, so I'm sure be something you know, very heartfelt about Danny Green. Yeah, you know, so I want to give away everything, but

you know it would be something we're reflecting. He gives a little juice here on the podcast. I'm saying what nobody else know that? What's your favorite Thanksgiving food? Um? It usually be like the ham and the turkey, but you know, the star has always been a stuffing. And you know, I told you my wife does a great job with the sage sausage stuffing off the chain. I'll tell you what next time she makes it, I'll bring you something, Okay, sage sausage stuffing. You know a favorite

dessert on Thanksgiving? I know you're watching Bart. Bart's looking pretty swall on TV because he likes to come in and get the morning work. No, no, no, no, you inspire me man, because you are ripped up. We call it rippling. Still a sexy billion wired your wiry, you know what I mean. So it's harder for me to look like you because I'm so much bigger. So I gotta try and shrink down and try and look like you, but a bigger version. Okay, all right, So you're gonna

eat dessert? How many half to? Yeah? Yeah? Absolutely, I don't give it. I mean, you just you just got you just gotta you just gotta run it off. What are you gonna have? Um? My mom always makes banana put it, and you know it's crazy. My my co hosts on on my on my radio show, I always say Danny, Amanda Laura. I always want to say Amadola. He came and he actually shot a show by my mother.

She stepped him. How she makes it banana putting makes the the meringue out of egg whites, and she beats it by hand and then whips it, put the sugar in there and it makes them ringue. And then she makes the put in out of the flower vanilla abstract and all this stuff makes the banana putting that color. She it makes it all by hand, and she made the mom's bananas putty. Okay, So I love pumpkin pie, and I wish more people and my family would make

sweep potato pope. It's it's kind of the same thing, you know. It's weird. It's kind of the same thing, and it's funny. It depends on what part of the country you're from. It depends on like, because black people don't make pumpkin pie. They always make sweetpotato pie, you know what I'm saying. But you know, people in the South, I want to say, make more sweet potato pie too, and up north it's more pumpkin pie, and more Midwest

and maybe more pumpkin pie. I tell you what, what nobody makes, so I don't think they make I don't hear a lot of people making apple pies anymore. You know, apple pies seems more like a spring that's not not so much. I would agree with that. I feel like apple pie has kind of it's kind of fell off. It used to be American, you know, it's the most American thing that you got. American is apple pie? No,

you know, peace Kylbers coming there a little bit. What's the blueberry Kilbers kind of snuck in there, and then everybody loves the cakes and makes cakes. You know, my godmother makes a hell of a seven up upside down pound cake. Yeah, pound cake. It feels like temper. I'm not even playing. I don't know, you know how like most of the ways more than fat Man like her cakes per square uh inch man, it's like heavy. It's like it's like gravel or something that's but it's like

seven up. They sprinkle seven up and they make the inside of the batter. And they asked this like lively lemon zessity taste to it. Chat's Patriots, What does that mean to you as a player of that rivalry? Because before that we always talked about it right here in the studio during your first years, is it jet it was you came from that monster rivalry, your South Baltimore Pittsburgh. Let's say what The Patriots um rivalry is a little different than the than the Stiller's Ravens, because that one

was always so violent, so physical. This one was more about playing chess. It was about what was gonna be the game plan and adjusting to it and out executing the Patriots and also making the plays and they presents themselves. See the Ravens still is just about two cars on the track, and there's no Dodge and no fair Didge. It's like the tougher, the tougher guy wins. You know, the tougher guy usually wins if you can get you know,

hits on Brady early. But if you're not making the plays and making adjustments to their formations or whatever their game plan of the week, it's it's tough sledding. So it was more of a mental um sparring and physical sparring here than it was just a physical and and and so Steelers Ravens was a battle made for phone booth. Yeah, it was a phone booth fight. That's basically what it was. It was like, okay, nobody's stowing jabs. If you're not

throwing the power punch and you can't you remember Harlem Knights. Yeah, if you ain't breaking up Zo, you got you break up Bazooka. And the smallest thing you bring is a twelve game. That's a that's to to a Ravens game. But you know, when you when you talk about if you want to use that same analogy, you want to bring a sniper, you gotta you gotta bring some of precision if you want to outthink. Uh, you know Bill Belichick,

he's one of the best to ever do it. You know, you hate to get him credit, but you have to get credit where credit is due. I feel like a lot of times when you were the player here that the Jets would were ground and pound outfit. Right. You think about Thomas Jones, you think of Sean Green, you think all those guys. You tried to run the football

and then defensively they'd approach you. Guys like you said with that chess match, and because they did not want to and they don't signing respect, is that they didn't want to make it a physical context. They want to spread your out and then try and get you out in space and get somebody to mess up communication. So they knew man for man, they really couldn't deal with us, and especially you know the few games. I think the one or two that we had Chris Jenkins like that

was game over. You know, if we could have kept Chris Jenkins healthy, Yeah, I think that you don't play with him much. Do you ever wonder what the defense

would have been like with the like that? I think I would have won two Super Bowls with Chris Jenkins because they would he would have ate up a whole another person and we would have been able to do things that you know that you know, you talk about us not really having pass rushers when when he was here, but if he was on the field, you gotta put

two on him. So now you get a lot, a lot more one on ones on the outside, and then what are you gonna do when we're blitzing on the inside, because he's gonna clear everything out for everybody he was. He's one of the most dominant forces I've ever been around. So when you look back at your career, that's something that's opportunity missed. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Could you imagine him, you know, can you imagine having him when we went

to Pittsburgh and pushing the pocket on bend. So now band can't step up and step out all he has

he can move out a retreat. He couldn't step up with Chris is pushing the pocket and you know, wearing pounce y'all that that run game that they tried to have, it would have been over with you because now because now Pouha is coming in as a rotational guys like him and the Vito your your guys coming in fresh in the rotation, like I mean, that was one of the biggest regrets, you know, not playing with such a dominant and he were so strong up the middle because

behind them, of course, or you and David, you wouldn't have been ever I mean, we always had great run defense, but you wouldn't have been ever wrong. And then and then Pace, I know he set that in. Yeah he was do you Guys in the business always considered him the best edge run center in the national football him and Jared Johnson the most physical edge setters. Yeah, you know what I mean. And you then that would have just allowed you know, Trevor, how do you block Trevor?

It would have been over even at his age. How would he went back? How would you? How would you block? Yo? Sean Ellis, you can't. You can't. You you couldn't because now you've got so much problems with him. You talk about the best time I guaranteed the combination of Chris Jenkins, you know, and I got much respect for Mohammed and I got much respect for show that riding. But you know, it's a different, different type of beast. You know, if

you had Chris Jenkins and Sean Ellis together. I mean that's you know, all you have to do is probably looked to the year before I got here and see how dominant that was because he was healthy that year. And you know, now, Sean Ellis was an angry person. He was an angry and no district Like I said, no dispect to Mohammed or Sheldon, but they're not angry like like Sean Ellis was an angry black man. May maybe one of the most angry black man I've ever

been around. So he played angry, he walked around angry. He he was so talented, you know what I mean. You talk about the Jets all time, Lady Patta get I mean, now you put him next to its right up there obviously Guest and all those other guys. Yeah, that's right. But no, I think he broke those records. I thought he was. I think he was. He wasn't

all time. He was like seventy sacks or something like that, right, eight sacks, Yeah, yeah, but he as far as the all time, he wasn't like want to top the list, but he had a great career at the at the end of the day, Like you're saying, because Sean is not a guy who said his locker and talked to reporters, is that you know he's when when you're talking about Jets careers, he's one of the in the history of

the franchise him. You can say Sean Abraham, but I don't know Sean Abraham and John They they don't had a long gevity that he had here. He played here with thirteen years something like that. And Abe, you're right, Abe, obviously they traded to Atlanta, I believe, and they got mangled back. Okay, so real quickly, this game itself a lot he has been made as far as this we

tape before Todd Bowls made his starting quarterback decisions. So by now you're listening to podcasts at home, I know that Todd Bowls has either announced Ryan Fitzpatrick is the starter or Price Patty. We're taping right now. He has not announced that just yet. If Ryan Fitzpatrick has named the starter, than what I mean he's named the starter. You know they're they're they're making sure that you know, they're not making any decisions until about the future, until

the president is over. You know, they want to make sure that Okay, let's make sure we're not we're mathematically still in it, you know, before we make a decision. You know, because fitz Patrick, I think, still gives them more options. You know, Bryce Petty is the future. You know, he could be the future. That's it could be a future. You know, there's been a lot of runners going on about Tony Romo and all that type of stuff. You know, you have to you know, that's that's all season stuff

right now. You know, you got to make sure that you take care of business and you're not done until you're done. If Petty starts, and this is something I laughed about. A lot of people said, you can't start them against the Patriots, and I was always of the belief that, hey, listen, he's not playing against Tom Brady. If he does get to start type Bowls, is gonna make whatever decision he thinks it's best for his team.

He's out there in the practice field, he knows exactly what is gonna put his team in best position to win. But if they start Brace Potty against New England, he's not playing against Tom Brady, well, you know what it is is it's the respect for Bill Belichick and his

record against rookie quarterbacks. I think the only rookie quarterback they ever beating was maybe Ben Roethlisberger and Mark Sanchez, you know, so he it's a it's his record out there about how he does against rookie um quarterbacks, and

it's not good. So if you hear people saying that it's only because of the respect of the stat which people take say all the time, it's the status has been going around, you know, in the media for I believe the last five or six years, right, and listen, whoever plays quarterback against young want to be honest with it. You're gonna be underdog any what what a good thing is you don't have to worry about pass rush because without Jamie Collins, without Chaneler Jones and uh jabral Share,

seems like he's um in the dog college. That he didn't even travel to San Francisco. That's twenty five sacks from last year. And you've been outspoken about that that the Patriots have made a number of moves that that have impacted their defense. So we'll have to see what happens. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family will be watching out there, say all good