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Draft Preview - Jason La Canfora

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Senior Reporter Eric Allen and Team Reporter Ethan Greenberg continue their draft preview series. CBSSports.com NFL columnist Jason La Canfora joins the pod to discuss the Jets' options at No. 3 leading up to the 2018 Draft.

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Like games over there the world. You plenty to win the game. He's got it. Jet sucks down. You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a Jets three sixty production. He A, the draft is it's fast approaching. You could say it's not fast enough, Greens And it is kind of a slow time of year right now, between the owners meetings and the NFL Draft. To me, it's a little slow. There's a lot of hoop while out there. You read a lot are every day because

you know you're here at the facility. You're seeing prospects come in left and right because the Jets are in the middle of their prospect physics right now. But that's all wrapping up. And then Mike mccagnan and Brian Himendinger, uh Todd Bowls, all the scouts, everybody's gonna get together. They put the big board together, and we're not that far away. Two weeks is a long time, to say

the least, especially in the NFL world. Later in the show, today again the Official Jets Podcast with Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen, we're gonna bring in CBS Sports Jason Locking for all things draft, maybe a little free agency recap there to get his opinions, because he's a very intelligent guy throughout the National Football League. Nfellow Syracuse alum, I didn't even say it, but yeah, I had to bring off because I know that would put you in a

good mood. Thank you. I appreciate that. I guess e A. My question he would be like, as only a couple of weeks away now, is what what can really change between now and the NFL Draft. Well, I don't know if teams at this point today have their final grades set on everybody. They're still collecting and processing information and it's not there as far as we know exactly who we're taking. I bet you, if you want to Cleveland right now they have the number one overall selection, I

bet you a hundred percent. They don't know who they're taking. They might have a good idea, but I don't know if they're there yet. So I still think, you know, you gotta be very thorough in the process. And you know, for the Jets, you're sitting there at number three overall, But not only are you sitting there at number three,

what can change? Greens? They have six traffics. Let's take into account not only number three, which we will focus on today because we're not gonna bury the lead, per se, but those picks in the third, the fourth, the fifth, the six, those are all very important. Is you continue to build depth to your program. So I think a ton of things can change. You go Thursday night and it's just one round, but then it really starts again.

It starts a new on Friday with rounds two and three, and then the day three is hugely important top of your team as you continue to build, and then the coaching staff has to take these guys and mold them. And what are those late day gems you can find that can help you out down the line. Bottom line, We're gonna focus in on a lot of number three, but a ton can change because we don't know who the Browns are selecting. Did the Giants know exactly what

they're going to do? I don't know. I mean, maybe they're gonna be taking a lot of calls about people want to come up and take a quarterback at two and the other thing you have to do and I'm giving you a long winded answer, but I'm all over the place because I'm so excited about this is that if you're in a war room right now, or if you're in a draft room right now, I should say you have to say, well, I think Cleveland's gonna do this, but what if the Giants do this? But what if

the Bills come up to two? Who are the guys are going to be there? And you might be on the clock at three not knowing exactly who those teams are going to take until it actually have been. It seems that a lot of these big conversations, like what you're saying is, you know, if you're in the war room and you're Mike mccagnet and Brian himer Dinger and the rest of the talent evaluation across the collegiate level, is you're asking, Okay, well, what are the Browns gonna do?

What are the Giants gonna do? Does this team look like they're gonna move up and potentially trade ahead of the Jets general he said that the Jets pay attention to mock drafts. Well, yeah, And I think it's funny because a lot of those same conversations are probably happening not only inside the football world, but as a water

cooler conversation throughout fans across the league. And I think that's pretty interesting because there are a thousand different scenarios based on who gets drafted where and who moves up and who moves back. And I think that's just the nature of the beast in the NFL draft and why it's so exciting because it is unpredictable, because you couldn't expect the Kansas City Chiefs to move up seventeen spots

and draft Patrick Mahomes. No. But what you're seeing two thousand and eight team draft class, and I'd like to get your thoughts on this, is that the way people are talking about the quarterbacks right now is that you have this top quartet and that's in any order you're gonna put it. It's San Donald, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, and Baker Mayfield. But how do teams stack them up together? And what the Jets did by moving up to number three from number six, they've been sured and staring at

least two of those four. Now, if the Giants take a positional player, you'll be staring at three of those four. I'd be fascinated. And all what other clubs think of guys like Lamar Jackson and Mason Rudolph and you know we're gonna ask Jason lacap about that. Could we have half a dozen quarterbacks go in the first round. I think it's probably very possible. I think so too, and especially if the quartet like you mentioned in Sam Donald,

Josh Roseen, Josh Island, and Baker mayfew. If those guys go real early that I think it bumps up where someone like Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph gets selected, because if four of the top five picks or quarterbacks, then you're looking if you want the next best guy, you gotta make a move to make sure that you get that guy, similar to the way the Jets moved up to ensure that they're facing at least two of the

top four prospects come the third overall selection. Again, as we sit here, I think the prevailing notion from people who covered the National Football League on a daily basis, the belief is Cleveland is going to go either Josh Allen or Sam Donald at two. I don't sense that people have a good read on the Giants. Whatsoever could they take a quarterback? What do they think about Davis Webb. We know that they're committed to Eli Manning. With that

being said, they still could take a quarterback. And if Donald comes off the board at one with the Giants, be interested in Ellen or Rosen or one of those clubs that everybody talks about, whether it's the Buffalo Bills, maybe the Miami Dolphins, maybe Arizona. Will they make those calls because they like their guy at two? And at what point for some of these teams was a price too high? I don't know. If you asked me today, I couldn't tell you quarterback. I would say it's a

d percent go on one. I have no idea what's happening. It's a couple of things in regards the Giants. Is I know a lot of analysts have project the Bills as a likely trade partner to number two. But if you're Dave Gentleman and the Giants, is, are you really comfortable moving back ten spots? Because this is a draft that many people believe there's only a few select blue chippers in this draft and then the talent level drops off.

But there's really good depth. I think something it's very interesting because Eli Manning is, you know, at the ladder half maybe ladder eighth of his career, Yeah, eight years old? Is how often are you picking top three overall, so you know, you might you know, it may seem obvious that they're gonna draft a quarterback, but if you really do believe in Eli Manning and you're not sold on any of these guys, then maybe you just want someone

like Bradley Chubb. Because they just traded Jason Pierre Paul to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last month, so there are really a thousand different combinations to the lock All right, are you just mentioned Jason. Let's bring in Jason Lockett four and continue to talk about the draft here in a moment without further ado. Let's bring in Jason Lockett four of CBS Sports. What have you thought of the

Jets off season to date? Specifically, early on Plan A, they targeted Kirk Cousins in free agency, but then they pivoted quickly. Yeah. I mean, look, you've always got to

have contingencies. And as much as they knew the extent to which they were willing to go for Kirk Cousins and as much as they wanted to present a plan to him, that made it clear that, look, we're prepared to build this franchise around you and pay you, you know, in ways that no one, frankly has ever been paid in this league before they knew that Minnesota had a different sort of point in their sort of evolution. And you know, there were certain things that the Vikings could

offer that the Jets, frankly, just couldn't right now. So it's not as if they ever as much as they were all in on Kirk Cousins that he was the only person. And obviously there was some other backup quarterbacks, you know, one with some upside and teddy and one who frankly was i mean, one of the top five to six quarterbacks in the a f C. And maybe

I'm selling them shut. Maybe I mean it might be more like three to five, considering the down years a lot of guys had in this conference last year, and the cown who obviously is already a scheme fit and who has proven to be one of the premier quarterback mentors, all around good guys, perfect bridge quarterbacks in the NFL. The problem for the Jets is they haven't had the guy on the other side of that bridge to bring along.

And we they're about the case that um with the third overall pick, and clearly they did you know, anybody who thinks that, oh, well, they reversed course and started really getting in on these young quarterbacks once they lost Cousins is foolish and naive. They've always been going down

to parallel pass one. We want to do as much work on all these kids so that we feel comfortable about getting the best guy possible for our franchise if we need to use that selection on the quarterback, and we're also going to throw a lot of money and energy at Kirk Cousins, and you know now they're at a point where they're gonna be drafting our quarterback. We're gonna talk a lot about quarterbacks. There's no doubt about that.

But you mentioned that obviously Reese si McCown with a lower risk, potentially high reward signing at Sundy Bridgewater the star of the free agency class for the Jets, of course, true Maine Johnson and also Jason They've been very active, but they've set themselves up long term because they have a lot of money under the camp again in two thousand nineteen, where you know better than I do, I guess that class is supposed to be star studded. We'll

see what happens when we get there next France. Yeah, I mean we'll see it in this day and age. I'm not sure how star studied any free agent class is going to be, because the cab continues to grow, and as teams continue to realize we'd rather reinvest in our own guys and take chances in free agency. And as we've seen, I mean, we've got guards making thirty million guaranteed over to you know, we got guards being

paid like left tackles. We got numbers three and four wide receivers being paid like number ones in free agency. As much as the Jets were prepared to spend, there were thresholds where they you know, they just weren't going to go to They weren't going to give Dante Montre ten million dollars just to walk into building. And there's certain other guys they liked, but but at a certain price point, and you bend a little more for some

uh more than others. I mean, you mentioned true that that's a player that, um, they've been well aware of for a long time. You mentioned Brian Hyman Ding. I mean, Brian obviously came from the RAMS organization. You know, he was around Jeff Fisher and all those guys, and and a part of their scouting staff when they were bringing true and into the league. So they you know, they've got a pretty good book on him and they know

what they're getting. And obviously landing a guy or two to help supplement the young safeties that that they're developing um and that in that defensive secondary was something that had to do in free agency, you know, and they did it um and I mean as as much as they you know, as they did in free agency. They're also at a point now to where this is about player development and about you know, they were a young team last year, really young, and I felt punched above

their weight class more weeks than not. And where you know, if those guys stay on, enough of those guys stay on that trajectory next year, then you know that lessons the need to go out and spend it five or six positions in free agency because ultimately, you know, they want to be a team whose bread and butter is the draft. You're down there in Maryland, Jason, what do

you think about Terrell Prior's edition. Obviously last year a tough one for him since he got hurt early in the year, But that year prior in two thousand and six yeen he broke out in Cleveland. And speaking of the former Browns, how about Isaiah kroll All as well? What about those two guys? What potentially they could add to this offense? Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's it's low risk endeavors. Those are positions that they may continue

drafting at in the mid rounds or whatever. But in the meantime, you know, you want to have NFL caliber players helping to supplement your roster. And would you rather take Terrell Prior or would you rather give Moncree ten million just for showing up at Mark Easley eighteen million guaranteed over two years just because he caught some balls in this league, or a thirty three year old Jordy Nelson guarantee him two years at fifteen million, even though

if you don't know he could still run. If that's where things are going and it's that haywire, then you're gonna have to keep drafting skill guys. And I'll take my shot with Prior on a relatively no frills look see kind of a situation. And look, Crowell was a guy who has shown that he can carry a heavy load.

He didn't really get that heavy. The load though, because the Browns were often behind in games and chucking it all over the place, and you know Kaiser throwing picks in the end on it all that, I think he was kind of awkwardly utilized. I'll maybe frame it that way, but someone who could be a grinder for them and just helped keep the chains moving. But again, would not shock me if they're doing something with a running back

at some point in this draft as well. Jason, where do you stand with this quarterback class coming out of the draft with Sam Donald, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, and Baker Mayfield. And I know that you recently wrote that you don't believe Josh Allen is gonna make it past number three come April. I don't. I mean, look, he may not make it to two. I mean he's certainly in play with the Cleveland Browns and that maybe John Dorsey's liking you know too. I can't tell you I

know what the Giants are gonna do. I don't know that the Giants absolutely know what the Giants are going to do. I think he should draft a quarterback, but at the end of the day, they could be trading out of that spot. I could see the Bills going up to two and taking Donald. I could see the Giants taking a quarterback just because logic would dictate it. Or I could see Dave Gentleman saying, I'm rolling with Eli for two years and I'm gonna take Chubber Barkley

because they're the best players on my board. But if you made me guests right now, if you made me do a mock draft right now, and I will refuse to do that until the day of the draft because you just don't know, and there's two weeks out. Seems like it's close. It's an eternity in terms of information gathering. What are people missing on Allen? I guess externally because you're talking about Allen that potentially he goes number one overall.

I was at the NFL Owners meetings in Orlando, Florida, and you got the feel from a lot of NFL personnel executives and guys who watched the game inside and out that hey, this guy has an incredible ceiling that did Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's that's really it. Like

the other ones. Like I guess, if you ask people who's the most pop maybe they like the most polished, Like the guy who if you want to, I won't say, well, maybe i'd say relatively play it's safe, you know, And you know, you want to get a guy who can play in the league for a long time. Now, he may never go to a Pro Bowl, but he's probably not going to peat down his leg right. He's probably not going to be a guy who you don't pick up the fifth year option on. Then I think it's donald.

If you're not trying to hit a double, if you're trying to hit a Grand Slam, if you're trying to find a Brett Farve tight, well, this chip fits the mode. Now he may he may not. You know, he could be Jake Locker, you know. I mean that it's not out of the question. There's a lot of projecting involved. But if you're looking for a guy who could you know, potentially, if he puts it all together, if the accuracy comes together, he fixes a few things could jump off the screen,

that's him. But are you a gambler? Aren't you? And what makes sense for your program? And it's gonna be Dorsey's call. It's not gonna be you Jackson's call. It's not gonna be you know. I mean, the owner will absolutely be involved. But at the end of the day, I think this is gonna be John Dorsey's call. He's gonna keep it very close to the vest, probably just

him in the owner. And does he do what he did a year ago in Kansas City where Dorsey was very involved with them, ultimately making a big trade to go up and get Patrick Mahomes big arm, you know, all that same gun slinger stuff, just you know, eleven months ago. At one point, does the price become too steep for Buffalo to come up to number two? Because you mentioned them before and a lot of people have talked about their draft capital, and sure enough, they do

have a lot of draft capital. Jason, what when you're just looking at number twelve and I believe what is the twenty one or twenty two? Overall? That's not gonna get you to two? And is it three? Number ones? Is it a couple of two? Is an additional three? At what point does it become two? Price? See for Brandon being and anybody to come up to that number two spots? If the Giants are really gonna sell out of there, well, the question is do I have to

go to two? You're talking to two? Or and really right, now is the dead spell, right, Don't believe a lot of what you see Right now, everyone's in bunker mode. All these teams are having their you know, eight hours a day meeting on position groups and setting their master boards, and they're entertaining these kids on trips, and everybody's in

sort of their own private Idaho. And then when that process ends by next weekend, all the Gophers pop out of their holes and they know what their boards look like, and they start trying to figure out everybody else's boards look like, you know what I mean? And if there guy's there for you and this guy's there for us, maybe that's a match. And that's when you start finding out where the preferences are because you have to tip your hand a little bit if you're looking to move

up or down or whatever. There's you know, communication lines are open right now. What's the best case scenario do you think for the Jets? If you're a fan of this team, what do you want to happen up top before? Were you're on the clock at three? Look if the Browns take a quarterback and they're going to and let's say that I would be rooting for the Giants to stay there. And take a non quarterback, because now my organization is going to have three of the supposed top

four there. Then they're going to be in a position to I mean, maybe even move back a pick or two. I mean, who knows. I mean, I guess it depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to get. But the more quarterbacks on the board, I would suggest, the better for them, the less likely it is that they took Guy A or Guy B. But this draft is I mean, this is not like the r G three Luck draft. You know, it's not even like the wentz Goff draft, where maybe you have them in some

order or the other. Um. And look, a lot of evaluators who I'm type with weren't real high on golf. But he obviously played very well for McVey last year. But you know, you kind of knew who the first two were like when I talked to people with teams who aren't drafting quarterbacks, at least not draft them in the first round. But you're still evaluating him. But he still had scouts in all these games. And I say, give me your quarterbacks one through five. No one gives

them to me in the same order. No, And it's not like, Okay, well, one and four and five roys the same, but two and three or flipped Like there's people who adamantly believe that Mason Rudolph is the third best quarterback in this draft, and there's others who say I wouldn't take him in the third round. I don't know that there's any sort of true consensus, at least I haven't been able to clean them. Do you think there's any kind of uh, when you're looking at a

system fit. Jeremy Bates taken over now is offensive coordinator, had tremendous success last year with Josh McCown. You mentioned McCown before. Uh, he's a guy who obviously he's gonna want to compete be the number one guy an opening day, but he's also gonna share his knowledge with whoever is in his room with him. Do you look at any of these guys and say, well, they'd be a good fit with the Jets. I don't mean. There's so much trade position, and the league changes so much every three years.

I don't know how much you can make that decision about who fits what our coordinators and schemers and play callers do best. Right now? You know, I think it's got to be who do we think has the best chance to succeed at a high level for a long time, and then what do we have to do to help them get there? And if that means tweaking this and altering that, then I think it's about how you incubate and develop a quarterback, you know, So, I mean, do you want to absolutely put a square peg in a

round hole? I mean, like, should you draft Lamar Jackson if you have no intentions of having a moving pocket boots, you know, waggles, you know, design runs for a quarterback? Well no, but that's you know, an extreme. I mean, if you are philosophically opposed to that, then he's not your guy. But it's usually not that cut or dry, and and the margins are usually slimmers. So I don't know how much you focus that into it. Obviously you're

talking to your coach. The coaches are involved in the decision. They're not making the final call. But you know, as you're putting these guys on the board, and as you're you're shredding through these quarterbacks on film and through the scout standing up and giving their reports, you're gonna ask Jeremy, you know where do you where do you see? You know? What does he do that you think is already ready? What would you have to massize? How? You know what?

I mean, how how do we get there? I don't know how much that swings depending he mentioned the Giants and the magnitude of that decision in the domino effect that could affect the Jets. And number three, just for fans that don't know, how much of a card do the Giants hold there at number two? Well, I mean I think it's significant. I mean, especially if Allen goes one and he's not everybody's cup of tea, then they're

sitting in the cat bird seat. And if they don't want to draft a quarterback, depending on how wild and WOOI gets, I mean, if you're the Jets and there's one of these last three remaining who you absolutely is your guy five thousand percent and he's the one, do you move up a spot just you know what you mean, to make sure you don't get lead frog? And then

could Denver conceivably do that too? Yeah, and we already know buffaloes loaded for bear and I would not rule out the Patriots making multiple leaps if absolutely necessary, Do I think it's going to two. No, but it's at least a feather and gentleman's cap. You know, potentially, as he's drumming up more and more value for it, could Arizona try to get from fifteen to two. Yeah, And I would say, unless they're in love with Jackson or Rudolph,

they better. So I think it's gonna be fairly interesting, and I think gentlemen will have a fair amount of options to sort through. Have any of these guys really helped themselves or hurt themselves throughout the off season process of going through the pro days of the draft is it's I do. I've actually talked to some people about that this week. It just came up in conversations. I think Mayfield has helped himself. You know, he picked a low key agent who wasn't gonna go to overtly with

the we're cleaning up his image campaign. But it's just kind of happened organically. There's been no incidents with him. He's handled himself well in interviews. I mean, I guess there's this fake Brown's thing about the first class ticket or whatever, I mean, whatever the hell that is. But I mean the kid has by all accounts interviewed. Well, you know, hasn't say anything crazy to any owners. I

think he's played this well, Lamar Jackson. I think Frankly could have probably benefited from an experienced agent to help guide him. Listen, you're gonna have your mock draft on the Thursday, the morning of the draft in a couple of weeks, so I'm not gonna hold you to it. But the possibilities right now, do you potentially see this a six quarterback first round? Yeah, if you think Jackson and Rudolph, I do. And I know those Again, there's

there's people who would bet me. You know, people in the scouting community and you know, agents involved with some of these quarterbacks and people you know whose livelihood during the line. Any number of them would bet me several thousand dollars at that kids doesn't go in the first round. I just look at supplying demand. I look at the factors of what Cousins just got and where the quarterback

money is going. And you know, I'm paying us while thirty two million dollars for nothing, I'm paying Mike Glennon nineteen million dollars for ten months. He can't even see ten months. He lost his job in October, so they signed him in what March, signed him in March. By October, he's my backup and he's gonna make nineteen million dollars from me by next March, and then he's gonna go somewhere else and get paid again. Sam Bradford, who's missed more games and he's played the last six years, gets

twenty million. It's tough. So this is it. This is the way to do it. And yeah, I think when you look at teams at the back end who he's somebody's somebody trade from two back on the one to get one, you know, the Paxton Lynch scenario. Then you've got the New England's who if they don't trade up, I certainly think they're snatching one at the end of

the first round with those two picks. Absolutely five, I think five in the first fifteen or sixteen and then that if that's the case, I have a hard time thing. Can sixteen more slots go by without somebody trying to get root off before having to deal with another potential trade or somebody else getting him at the top of a round two. I mean, if Dorsey takes his quarterback at one, then that pick thirty three is obviously open for business. So I think it's six who is dropping

of this list? S Kuon Barkley, Quentin Nelson, Bradley Chob make a Fitzpatrick Denze Award because if the quarterback run goes early, one or two of those guys could be slipping too. Is a somewhat surprising numbers. I would say, I don't know that Barkley or Chubb gets past four if he stays there, one of those two even if the Giants trade out, one of those two are going by four, and whoever is not going by four is going at six. So I can't call that a drop.

Nelson doesn't get past the Bears. His offensive line coaches. Now the Bears offer line coach the Notre Dame proximity, the need on the offensive line. That kid is, you know, people for around potential Hall of Famer with me left and right in the scouting community. So Josey deserved to go one, two or three. Yeah, but he's not getting passed eight. So I think they're all still going in the top ten and final one for me, You've been

doing this for a long time. Is this one of the more exciting times of the year for you and your business covering this talking to the scouts, the personnel guys here as we go, Uh, you know, less than two weeks before the draft and uh, you know, just speaking from a Jets fans perspective, they're like darn lies in the draft in New York this time because the Jet I love it. I loved it in New York and three of this year Jason, the Giants and two.

You know, they look it's it's a business, as you guys know in the NFL, and they've they've the last eight years or so, however long it's been within five years, eight years, I don't know if it's just been there since they started moving it around. They obviously comes a week long event in those cities as well, and you've got team's bidding on the draft. Now it's a monumental event. And some people would say it's the second biggest day

in the NFL calendar to the Super Bowl. And I don't know that I would argue with them, just because it's a three seven cottage industry. You guys know, within an hour of the first round ending this year, somebody, and more than one somebody will have their first round mock draft already up, and there'll be somebody who, as ridiculous as that concept is, there'll be a whole bunch of people who click on it. So the interest is

like at a fevered pitch. So yeah, I enjoyed this time of year, but honestly, it's like a kid at Christmas where we're two weeks out and obviously within a fifty two week calendar, like we're really close to Christmas, but those two weeks felt like an attorney right. It was like one more week of like school, and then you know, then we're finally maybe really getting close, depending

on what day Christmas film. And then you know, when you're a couple of days out and now you're like close to Christmas Eve, then isn't adrenaline rush and you're rocking the rolling right now? There's so much bologna out there, there's so much bs, there's so much just trying to fill the gap and burn off these fourteen days until we get there that I really don't like this part. You know, the visits are almost over and the pro days are over and nothing's really happening, but people, you know,

you've got to keep feeding the beast. Once we get to the Monday before the draft, and teams start talking to teams, and trades start coming into focus, and you know, people in the no start getting a sense of at least which way certain teams might be leaning. You know, then that's when I you know, for me, it really starts rocking and rolling, and and you know, don't be a couple of trades or two that maybe even one that happens well before the draft, at least a day

or two before the draft. That will, you know, make everybody take their mock drafts and rolling up the film in the trash because I want that just changed everything. And then you guys, know what's one pick doesn't go the way you thought it was gonna go, it has a ripple effect to you know, fifteen other picks. So it's become a huge part of the NFL, and it's dripped on the country. I mean, they credential twelve people, twelve hundred medium members for the combin It's gonna be

the three networks or broadcasting the draft. I mean, just think about that. But there's gonna be more, be more number broadcasting the draft and not broadcasting the draft albost I mean, so yeah, it's a big deal at Jason lockafora you have to follow him on Twitter because he's got a lot of nuggets, a lot of information out there, and he won't have his mock draft up until Christmas morning, that is third Thursday, April. We appreciate your time, always

great catching up my play. You guys have a good one. Thank you. Christmas Day Greens. Jason lackaf is talking about Christmas Day, and I think for Jets Nation they've been awaiting to open that gift under the tree. Who's it gonna be? Can't get here soon enough, But we got a little bit of time before that, and the Jets are gonna do their due diligence up to that point

with their pre draft visits, their private workouts. Except here and I finally put together that big board and we won't have to wait too long once we get to draft night because of Cleveland, the Giants, then the New York Jets. Who do you think Jets fans want right now? I no idea. I mean that's something we talked about on the podcast. I feel like the people who follow me when I get notifications, I believe the Baker train

is in full effect. I think there's a lot of people on Baker Mayfield tracks because here's a guy who's suproductive in college. He's a competitor. People like his Moxie's the kind of guy says, hey, get on my shoulders and I'll carry I don't care I'm six ft one, I'll take everybody with me. And I think a lot of people grew up here Jets fans considering themselves underdogs, blue collars, so uh, they really like that in Baker Mayfield.

With that being said, I think that there has been all so an appreciation for a guy like Josh Rosen, who you if you watch him on film, what tremendous mechanics he has. He looks like he was born to play quarterback and throw the football. But then you go back and you start thinking about Sam Donald and Josh Allen. I think both of those guys have loads of potential. Well, we could sit here and talk about this all day, but the fact of the matter is that we don't know.

The teams don't know. We're a couple of weeks away, and the only time that we will know is when Roger Goodell on April walks up to the podium in Arlington, Texas, and speaks the words with the third overall pick the New York Jets select, you know. And what lacan Forest said there was very interesting too, is that the Jets struck early on March seventeenth to put them in good position, moving up from six to three overall. And we talked about that trade at nauseum, but there could be other

trades that week in the draft. Here in a couple of days, that Monday before the draft, that Tuesday before the draft, I wouldn't anticipate a trade or two even before we get there. The Jets did strike at a good time on March seventeen, because Jason lock For wrote an article about this. To Jets and the Colts both won that trade because it worked out for both sides, and the Jets traded three second round picks to move up three spots. Let's see, let's see, let's see who

the Jets get. But the Colts could come out of this with there. He got their quarterback. We'll see what how his health is. But they were very confident. They sounded very confident in Adnnapolis that he's gonna come back and he's gonna be the Andrew lock of old. But they still could come out of this with they four mentioned se Kuon Barkley or perhaps the top pass rushing prospect in Bradley Chaw about it and see State, or

maybe they addressed the offensive line Quentin Nelson. And if you get one of those guys, pretty happy because you're probably gonna draft them anyway if you were three. But with that being said, we talked about this a lot. That was the right move for the Jets, movement from six to number three. You'll never be able to convince me otherwise I would echo those sentiments, especially keeping the

two thousand nineteen first round pick in house. And if there's a run at quarterbacks early, the cults are basically ensuring themselves of someone like Bradley Chubb, say Kwan Barkley, Quintin Nelson being there at six. And to be quite honest, that run of quarterbacks probably got sparks because of that trade, because if you're a team looking to trade up, you got pigeonholed by Mike mccagnet because there's one spot that you're going to and it's number two. And so I

think that there's obviously a lot of options here. But hey, again, we're a couple of weeks away. But the question is will the Jets have the look of the Irish on April? Well, because st Patrick staying I like it. I think that I think it's fair and I didn't think it's too much of a stay. I'm just getting back to one of the Lock and Forest points is that I think people are missing this externally, is that Josh Allen is

really thought of highly in league circles. That's one of the key points that you gotta take away from this podcast. Lacking fora who has a lot of sources within the league. He talks to NFL personnel guys and scouts all the time. Josh Allen has thought very, very highly because a tremendous ceiling and listen, I know about his completion percentage, but he's an awesome thrower to football. He's also very athletic. So is somebody's gonna take him early? Couldn't be as

early as one or two. No walking forth thanks as of today, you want to be surprised at all Brown's roll that way with the kids with the Wyoming Cowboy. If Josh Allen goes one, I think that the Giants stay put because and now you go Sam Donald there

Green's yes, I do. And then if the Jets do indeed take a quarter back at three, you think it would ultimately in your scenario, if you think, if looking forward is right, Brons go Allen Greenes thinks that they've Gettleman first year GM with the Giants, we'll go Sam Donald. And then ultimately, if the Jets take from that top quartet that a lot of people are talking about, you think it ultimately could come down to Baker Mayfield or Josh Rosen. Correct, Well, we got time to discuss that,

but we don't have any more time. We're gonna look more into that. But again, keep your eyes open because if you haven't looked already, there's a Sam Donald podcast up, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield all to come on the Official Jets podcast, and then one more before April, we're gonna wrap things up and draft again Christmas Eve in April. It's almost here.

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