The Official Jets Podcast is presented by win Bet. Benning is a team sport, but together at win Bett. How about the team today on the podcast Spart Scott as always and we bring Brian Baldinger Baldy in studio. Gentlemen, great morning to you both. The Jets are one to zero. It's been an emotional forty eight hour swing here at one Jets drive. Great win over the Buffalo Bills. Outstanding team victory. With that being said, Aaron Rodgers goes down
after four snaps three offensive plays. He's placed on into reserve with the Achilles on Tuesday.
Baldy, look, I mean for all of us when we watched it, it was with disbelief, like nobody could believe this could have happened. Everybody's reaction was pretty much the same. What come out of your mouth was a little bit different, but we all felt like a gut punch. So it's tough, but I think within that sometimes you find out just how good you are, Like, is it just Aaron Rodgers? I mean that if you watch Hard Knocks, you figured it was just Aaron Rodgers and a bunch of guys.
You know, I know that's TV, But like sometimes you got to find out how good your team is, and that that team rally down thirteen to three late in the game and they found a way and Bart like it's so cliche, but players got to make plays. Yeah, and they just guys just kept doing it, whether it was Breeze or whether it was Whitehead, or whether it was Xavier Gibson in overtime. Guys found a way to
make plays. And sometimes you don't know that you could do it until you're asked to do it, and you have to.
Do it exactly. I mean, we say it all the time. Adversity doesn't defined. Character reveals it, and this shows you that this was a confident bunch with or without you know, Aaron Rodgers. Just this is basically the same team last year that was, you know, fighting for a playoff.
Spot started even four at that point.
Right with with with more experience. All these young guys now are seasoned veterans, you know what I'm saying. And you think about Sauce taking the next step, Garrett Wilson's taking the next step, but they have a greater supporting cast, you know, I think the offensive line, the more they play with each other, it's going to take about five games and listen, they're going to be have their feet held to the fire because their first five opponents are
guys that have tremendous defenses that can get after. So it's going to accelerate the communication because you're going to have to because you're going to have to have a lot of correctable tape because it won't be perfect. Guys got to get in in football shape. I think that was one of my takeaways throughout the league, because there's no preseason. Guys are playing at one hundred percent, one hundred and twenty percent, pushing through fatigue and pain because you can't tap in.
You know, say hey, come save me, and you're like, hold, I'm a backup.
You the starter, You get started money, you go out there and you do what you gotta do. But you know, Theets can take a lot from what they did, and I think the former has to be much like it was our two thousand and nine and twenty ten year, where you know, Zach Wilson's taking shot or pretty much like Mark Sanchez took shots and handing the ball off and leading the league in rushing. They have two capable backs. Bree is only going to get stronger. I thought Dalvin cooked.
Maybe his timing was off a little bit, you know, because he has to learn. One thing Brees knows is he's played with these guys before, so he knows their tendencies, their body language and none verbal communication.
Dalvin has to learn that, like how he's going to block.
Certain fronts if you're going to get a true but if you're going to get a turn, you're gonna get a hook and get that trust in timing. As far as I say, all great backs have to have patients to the whole, acceleration through the whole, and Dalvin has to be able to learn that patience then comes with more reps.
It's a dance part. It's a dance that every back has to have with their offensive line. There's some days you come off the field and you're like, I can't get the mic block, Like look like it's not the way it was on Wednesday or Thursday, and you can't, Like you gotta figure it out a way. We gotta get the mic block. He's gonna make every tackle. And so sometimes it's just that simple, Okay, come to the sideline. Here's what we're gonna fold it. We're gonna scoop it.
We're you know, what do we have to do in order to get to this guy? And so Dalvin has to learn that, you know, if he's going outside zone behind Dwayne Brown and Lake and Tomlinson. It's different than what he did in Minnesota for six years. And so to Bart's point, he spot on like, there's a little bit of time where you need to learn the dance and then once you get it, then you'll get your rhythm. Then you know your spots when to hit it, where the daylight is. And I think you know that will.
Come subscribe, rate and review also banged the like on YouTube. Bart ten year anniversary nine to eleven. You played against the Dallas Cowboys. You guys were down by double digits in the second half as well. Then Sanchez hit Plexico bursts the late Joe McKnight, god rest his soul blocks a punt, Isaiah Truefont takes it into the end zone.
So a lot of similarities. Twenty second anniversary of nine to eleven at Charge Environment, the fans were incredible Monday night, and the Jets got a great defensive effort and then they hung around, kept on battling offensively. How about the touchdown catch from Garrett Wilson in the fourth quarter. That tisy game. I don't know how he came down there with that against stray Avis White, and then they ended in overtime with an undrafted free agent Exavier Gibson taking it to the house.
I mean, I think that's just illustration of just the work that Joe Douglas has done in understanding what this team needs. Last year, that was a source spot with Bracks and Barrios. You know what wasn't flipping the field. You have a great defense, your special teams becomes a weapon because they become your offense. If your defense can get guys off the field three and out, it's a formula kick the ball.
The ball was short.
You know, even if you get ten yards you average ten yards, you're flipping the field because if you in return punt and you outpunt the punter. I thought the special teams was excellent, you know, you know Z and more more so did their thing right and flip the field. And that's something that was a point of emphasis for the And you can see the hit we call it the hitting yards.
We can see the hitting yards.
And then the hitting yards took place when you get off three and three in out and you have a walk off. But even if it wasn't a walk off, the field was already set to be able to just have to get twenty thirty yards and you have field goal ranks to try and win the football game.
I always say part that during the course of a year, you want your special teams to win two games for you, Well, just one one. There's still another game out there to win. What you don't want to do is have your special teams lose a game for you, or lose two games. And that can happen too. Just happened to the Giants. You get a field goal attempt block for a touchdown.
There's this moment out of yourself.
Everybody on the sideline, this is what happens to you. You got the mental stuff in your head. Go here, we go here, it goes again like it. It is such a defeating play. You got points on the board three and it goes the other way for ten and then you get a tipball interception pick six. I mean, honestly, the Cowboys had eight snaps and we're up sixteen nothing. But like you, that's a deep hole to try to dig yourself out.
And when you think about it, you know you're gonna have an advantage AD and you can have a big advantage, especially if you have great core teamers. It's in the special teams because the communication. A lot of these guys on special teams are are guys that's working with each other for the first time. So if you have a good special team unit, a veteran one one that's played with each other and guys to understand their role and accept their role, you can really take advantage early in
the season because communications X dunt cross stunts, guys techniques bad. Right, we had to jump through when you talk about the giants, jump through God and stabs inside hand. Now I guarantee for every game in the rest of the year, somebody who's ever there on that wing is gonna stab that inside hand and then step out. But now the Dallas Cowboys able to gain advantage because they took advantage of guys not being ready to play.
I see pall to getting excited over here. It says, then there's football one on one, there's football three oh one, five o one. This is like seven oh one. This is doctor level stuff right now.
But you know the victories and wins all line the details like Bart's talking about, just a simple detail that you actually practice every day. You know, every single team every day does a field goal, extra point, try drill every It happens every day, and it's just something that you just almost take for granted doesn't happen. That's disappointing. That play to Brian Dable, as bad as it was, might have been the one that bothered him the most.
All right, let's come back to the Jets here. We're gonna dive into that matchup this weekend with the Dallas Cowboys. Aaron Rodgers, he comes here a couple days before the draft. He totally bought in. He loved his new surroundings, his new environment, his new start after eighteen years in Green Bay, fifteen as a starter, four time NFL MVP, A guy looking at the Lombardi Trophy and telling Jets fans, dad trophy looks lonely. I want to lead this team to
another one four plays. What do you think he's going through right now? And also what kind of challenge does Robert Sala have ahead of them?
Well, I would just imagine that inside Aaron Rodgers' brain right now, it's a torture chamber because all, like I mean, I'm sure that he thought, like Tom Brady thought when he left New England went to Tampa, I can do this, Matt Stafford leaves Detroit, I can go to LA and do this, like Aaron wanted to be the next.
Guy to do it.
Like you know, that's what the great players do at that position. They elevate everybody. And nobody thought Tampa was a super Bowl team. Nobody thought the Rams were a super Bowl team until those guys elevated everybody around him and the coach quarterback relationships always got to be special. And I thought Aaron had a chance to do that, and that dream died quickly. So it's a gut punch to Aaron, like he doesn't want a Hall of Fame
career to end like that. It does, like nobody can nobody can write that script part about how to walk into the sunset. We all want to do it. We all want to go win the Super Bowl and walk off into retirement and all our dreams are fulfilled.
Soul can never be settled that way, like it's an unselling death, Like the soul can't rest right, you know when I talk about that every football player experience is to death, their natural death and their football death. They can't do what they love to do, and they have to walk away and make that decision.
You know.
For myself, it was a toe and it was tough, and I had a tremendous opportunity being able to get an opportunity for CBS, and I still feel like I had some years and I feel like I had something to prove. And to this day, my soul is unsettled because I wish that I would have said, you know what, CBS, thank you, but no thank you, and found my way on there so I can walk off the field with my head high and healthy. And sometimes you don't have the Jerome Bennis type of story right off until the sunset,
like Shane, you know. But I just can't see a guy like Aaron Rodgers wanting that to be his lasting image and still feeling like he owes the Jets and the Jets fans something. But he's already you see his impact throughout this entire organization. You can see the life that he's brought breathed into Zach Wilson. You can see how he's you know, sharpened up the skills and the
confidence of Makai Beckton. You can see his effect on Garrett Wilson, who he believes, Hey, you're like seventeen, and being able to breathe that confidence and to him to say, hey, I've seen some of the best receivers in this game, and I believe you can be one.
Bart.
I really think that there is a like he's already embedded himself in this organization. Like you said, like he's got to have the surgery. I hope he still stays here. He's here every day. I hope he's on the sideline. I hope he's on the plane rides like he's a part of this team. And just seeing him, I feel like it gives a lot of people confidence. No, not gonna take a snap, not gonna help win a game. I feel like his presence is really important.
Yeah, we're gonna have to see what happens there. Wouldn't that hurt you at the same time, like you want to help the team.
Yeah, but it happens.
We've all felt hopeless, right, you don't feel a part of it, right, right, But he can be a huge part of it.
Right.
He had two jobs come here, win a Super Bowl, but also develop help develop a young quarterback. The first mission, he can't. He can't do that until next year. If he decides to come back the part two of that mission, he can still obtain. He still can be a big part of the winning here by helping develop and accelerate the growth of Zach Wilson.
Zach Wilson's second act now a lot sooner than we all anticipated. With that being said, one of the advantages of Rogers coming here that Brady didn't have, that Stafford didn't have, that Peyton Manny didn't have, is that this was his system. He was matching himself up with Nathaniel Hackett as a player coach. Now, what do you anticipate that relationship is going to look like with Hackett and Wilson and they'll fire. They'll have a week to prepare
for the Cowboys. I imagine he wasn't getting too many first team reps, if at all, last week.
Getting the reps knowing that the spotlight on them, that will all help. You know, you want to see what you don't What I think we saw a little bit on Monday night was he made the error, he didn't see the linebacker. He made the throws interceptor. But you know, Matt Malone was a very good player. But so I saw it throughout the league. Bryce Young through two to
the other team the other day. It happens. But what had happened in the past is that one mistake with snowball into two and three mistakes, and we didn't see that the other night. And so the ability to erase a mistake, flush it, clean it and go on. I felt like the team helped them. I think they all came over and let them know everything's going to be all right, even when they were losing. And and then you know, the touchdown to Garrett's got to feel good.
It's a phenomenal play. But you need your players around you to make highlight circus catches like that. You need your guys to make catches that they haven't made before across the board. So everybody has to pick up their game a little bit. And I feel like that's the message that Robert We'll send to the team. We all have to do a little bit more now. We all got to be a little bit better. It's not all on number two. It can't be.
Yeah, you heard Dalvin Cook say say say as much right when he said we all got to help too. And you know, everybody list and these are guys that are veterans in this league that have played at a high level. We need you to play at a high level all. We don't need you to be special or something that you haven't been. Just play the play to the back of your your football card. Play to the back of your football card. And I know if Dalvin Cook plays to the back of the football card, is
one of the most elite backs in the game. I know if Makai Beckon plays into his capability, then that's one of the best, most dominant, you know, tackles in the game.
I know, if.
Vera Tucker plays, that's arguably one of the best guards in all of football. Lanklyn Thompson, former Pro bowler, play to the back of your your your your your football card. Dwayne Brown, play to the back of your football card. Right, You're a five time Pro bowler. Play to the back of your football card. And if everybody plays to the back of their football card, then I think they'll be fine.
One of the things I think they're going to have to do, he's going to have to customize this system for the strengths.
As I just gonna ask you, like, what are Zach's strengths because he came out this highly athletic talent out of BYU. Obviously this is a new system.
You gotta you gotta scheme up shots for him. You know what I mean. You keep it simple.
You know, easy throws we're on his guys, and catches, slant slants rarely get picked off, right phase rarely get picked off. And shots you know you talk about you know over route speedos, you know what we call spiedos, these.
Deep crossing routes with easy check down.
You need to make a simple for him one, two, three, all into the one vision until he opens things up.
But you know, you think about as well.
I think McCole harmon has to start playing right because he's a guy that can be your gadget guy. He's a guy in the slot that you can give jet sweeps to and he can get a supposed to plays. He's a guy you can get a screen pass to, you get a supposed to play. He's a guy that you I will put him in there at least once or twice a quarter until him just go go straight, Mark's cassette, go go straight.
You gottaccount for him.
Well, I mean I just b John Robinson, catch us a hitch and go to the house for opening touchdown. The Falcons like, just come back, okay, get a like, just get a bunch of big guys out front and let him use his talent.
Like I mean, you saw Aaron Jones.
You saw Aaron Jones, right, It was a screen right, a nice little angle route. Listen, last year the Jets had a tremendous package and they didn't have to Pro Bowl. It was the pony package that they had when they had Michael Carter and they had Breese Hall there, and that front guy can go block for each other. But that front guy also can run a wheel rod. And
we watch against that. I believe it was Denver. We watched Breese Hall with like a sixth den there sixty yard reception off of straight like wheel route, you know, coming off the Pony package.
So we saw we saw package the other night with both Breecee and Dalvin together and then they through the screen to Dalvin to Brees and they put Dalvin out in motion. So I think you can see put your best players on the field, like you your star players are gonna win the game for you like, Zach doesn't have to be the star. You're not gonna hide him. To Bart's point, like you're gonna take your shots. But there's a lot of help around him.
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If you can be even in the turnover battle each week. I think twenty points is gonna win you a lot of football games with this defense.
No, here's the thing, Like the defense was good last year that gave up I think the fewest touchdowns in the league.
But they didn't take the ball away exactly at sixteen last year.
So in seventeen games the quarter of the way there, Well, you need to double that this year. You got to be thirty and above because if you give extra at bats to this offense, they're going to score if you just keep doing it. So what was encouraging even on the fumble caused by Michael Clemens, Like there was you know, there was Quinnon falling on it. Like last year, they forced a lot of fumble they missed. They pick up like loose balls is loose change? Like get the loose balls?
Like it's just got to be a mentality every single time there's a ball in the ground, it's got to be yours.
I think Field the Eights from ESPN tweeted after Jordan White had his third interception that he had just earned himself a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars roster bonus in Week one.
There's a lot of cheese on the taco I wonder if he's saying, you know what, listen, Jets, we don't need to wait till the end of season.
I got it now, you can just go ahead and pay me. So I started getting some interest in that thing already.
You talk about hitting for the cycle and listen, they weren't like those are play recognition, tape studying type of interceptions.
Those weren't. Oh, I'm just happened to be Bart. It's a great catch. Yeah, I'm not just trying to knock it out of his hands. That's a great catch.
Yeah, it's not like I'm Johnny on the spot. And the last one understanding that they had they had some type of combo limbo type of coverage. I understand he sliced the seven route, came underneath and was able to get the interception. That that is play study and anticipation and being able to believe your eyes.
He looked like a good cornerback in that situation when he undercut the route.
And he's dry. He listened.
He dropped four last week. I mean last year they said he dropped four. Sometimes you just you.
For Bart and you spend the off season on the drug machine. Yeah, like, I gotta get my hands better.
How about the Williams brothers. We tend to expect this, I think from quinnin but Quincy is really.
And he flashes.
He plays at a different speed, right, he's a guy that you know, he brings and delivers, delivers, you know, tremendous hits. You know, he's not the biggest guy, reminds me of it. He reminds me a lot of myself. And I'm not trying to pump. I'm not trying to lift myself up. But I was a hitter and I
had a tremendous range, especially early in my career. And he's a guy that plays with a reckless abandon because he's a guy that was giving up on He's a guy that said, hey, he wasn't good enough, and he's come here and he found he's found a home and not only just being able to come down and be that wild man. He's like the loose cannon, right. They allow him just to run and hit. There's like Seaball
get balled. Mi'ster ray Lewis right, he's the guy like and Quintin is allowed to just be a reckless craze doll. And I love it and I love him to see him. And also he's athletic and he's had that. He has that speed. He saw that on the wheel route. He was right there, stride for stride and yes, and we know, James Cook is a guy that can run too, So you know, I'm happy for him, and that's what you need. You need your young guys also to take the next step.
And these guys are taking the next step. Whether you talk about Garrett rather you talk about Sauce, you know, you talk about Whitehead more comfortable in the system.
I think he's more comfortable. Last year.
I think coming over from a new team, you know, high price, free agent, a lot of expectations. Maybe he was pressing a little bit. Now he's just letting the game come to him. We're seeing the player that we saw on Tampa.
We're gonna talk about that matchup Jet's Cowboys. But just flipping back to the quarterback real quick. If you're Joe Douglas, you already know you we're taping here Wednesday morning, elevated boil. So right now he's your backup? Are you adding another quarterback?
Hits? Okay, you know why?
And could you throw out some names hypothetically, you know, but like.
Look, you owe the team. I mean, Joe's been doing this for the last two years straight. The team is good. They proved it on Monday night. We know it's good. You owe the team, the best player you can get, you can find. You make every phone you call Tom Brady, you know, you call Philip Rivers. You just make those calls. You call, like he drafted Carson Winston Philly, Like you know, Carson has been giving up on Maybe and nobody's called.
The phone's not ringing. Maybe this is a chance. I'm not saying.
I don't know what the answer is, but I know Joe has been busy calling every agent, every available guy out there, making trades. Who might you who might you be able to shake loose that could come in here and win games right now if they have to, because I don't think anybody's going to come off the street anybody and just step in and play right away.
It's Robert Salad was clear about it that Zach has team right now.
I think Zach has two weeks to prove it. Right.
We understand how daunting the task is. You know, the first six games, how hard they would be. We knew that before the season with Aaron Rodgers, without Anon Rodgers. But I'm gonna give Zach two weeks before I really go big fish hunting. And I'm trying to go big fish hunting now. But you have to ask yourself, right, if you go big fish hunting, what are you say saying Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers has come in, He's given thirty million dollars back. He's been a guy that's been
all in. If you go out and you tell you know, the Rams, I got a first round draft pick, you give me Matthew Stafford.
You can go out and.
Get Kayler Williams because you're going to have two first round draft picks and have an opportunity to get your future quarterback. Who knows he might say that Kaylor Williams has said he'll go back to school if I believe if a team like Arizona tries to draft him because Aaron flux. You know, but you can see a USC kid wanting to play for a team that won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago and be with a guy like Sean McVay. But then also you got
to understand what is that saying to Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, if he believes come back, he can't make that decision right now, so you can't make a long term decision. So it has to be somebody that understands that this is still Aaron Rodgers team until it's not so. I think about a guy like Jacoby Brissett. I think about a guy like Teddy two Gloves who's been here before, and you say, well, why would these teams give up,
you know, a guy like Teddy two Gloves. Why would they give up a guy like Jacoby Brissett Because they are one of the best bats in the game that you can trust that can come in.
You can win games with even Tyrod Taylor.
But why would the Giants ever make a deal with the Jets right, you know, and help them and then if something happens to Daniel Jones, But the Jets still have a surplus. I said in pass rushers and pass rushers are a premium and if you have to use some of your personnel, that's your best chance I believe to get a player.
Draft picks.
Yeah, the draft picks going to match the type of conversation you get. If you want to get a high end quality back up and somebody that can potentially come in, whether it's even an Andy Dalton, it's gonna you know, it may cost you a player or a high draft pip. But a guy like Jakob ber said, I think you're going to have to get creative, maybe send a player and get a four back and return.
And then get the backup. They have said they're all in, Bart, You're all in. You're all in.
Yeah, And look, it was unfortunate circumstances. Nobody could have foreseen what happened. But I think you still have to be all in.
And we saw improvement from Zach Wilson throughout the summer. And like we talked about at the top, they started five and two last year, we're seven and four.
You're looking at right now. Is an insurance policy, yeah, because he gets hurt.
He gets hurt too.
He's been so you have to protect yourself and that's that's what it is. But we all look, we all want to see Zach succeed. The league needs Zach. This is a big market. The league needs the Jets to be prime time. They need Zact to be good. We all need This league is built on quarterback play. We need great quarterback play. We need Zact to develop and be good.
Do you see the similarities with the Sanchez situation? Different rosters, but just talking about the top level elite defense, the personnel, really good running back.
I just don't know if you can consistently win that way anymore, because the game has opened up a lot more since you know, I left the league a long time ago, right, So I think you can.
You can. It can be a variation of that.
You can kind of try and win kind of how like Tennessee used to win with great defense and running the ball at a high level, you know, And maybe you call up easy and now you have four backs up so you can keep that stable going to keep everybody fresh, because I still think you don't want to get Brice hall numbers.
Up too much. Right now.
We got to see how that knee handles when he gets fatigued, when the fatigue of the season starts to bear down on you. So I much rather try and keep him fresh. So I think you may bring up four running backs and then consider that being like pony packages, because you're saying, okay, well maybe we put a tight end down because now we got your four backs up, but we use that personnel. And I love to see
Breece Hall run a will route. I love to see Izzy at what a four to two or four to three and forced to see off linebacks and keep up one.
Right on the old goal route.
Right because and also what I need to see is the adjustment that I believe the Buffalo Bills made. They understand that Dix has tough matchups on the outside to read and salt. What do they do They move them in the slot and match him up against Michael Carter. But also that allowed him to get free releases. You want easy throws for for Garrett Wilson as well. Well, you know, so I would see putting him in the slought a lot more so that he can get free
releases and get space. And we know how quick he is in space and keeping guys to keep up with his quickness, his vertical acceleration, also his lateral quickness.
Yeah, the Jets went big number of those packages. I like what I saw out of Jeremy Rutgers in a blocking game, and they do.
They played a lot of thirteen personnel. Yeah, played a lot of three tight end sets. Look, it just stretches all the gaps and double double. The eighty three yard run by Breeche was off three tight ends and Rutgers did a good job of ceiling with Uzama right there and Conkling, and he had one guy to beat and that was Stredavious White and beat him and he was off to the races.
You didn't breaking and bring him down with a hand with an arm tackle. But the thing is as well, when you talk about that package, you know Breecee did a great job in understanding that the space was going to reduce. It's not where the defender how much space you have when you're you know, start to run. He knew that it was going to reduce, and he trusted that the tight ends on the double team was gonna
continue to get movement. And you know, uh to Davis the patient, Yeah, but that's what you have to be because Davis understands he can't get he can't let anybody circle the defense. So he wasn't taking the error away and that's the edge reduced. That created just enough space for Breefe to thread him outside to just get vertical and corners aren't put in those situations. As a linebacker, I know I have to continue to take the space and stay on the upfilled shoulder not to allow him
to get outside. But if the double team continues, even you see it a lot of times with tackles and guards when they have the tight end, they creating that space. To widen that bubble, you have to continue to take that space away by coming downhill. And corners don't want that smoke.
Yeah, he said, no, you're mare for cornerbacks on that.
But that's what you do. You say, Okay, you got a great corner that can that can cover. We're gonna see if he can tackle today, and the most corners, like Deona said, show me, show me a quarter that could cover.
I tell you what it came to.
We could talk about Dion for a couple of hours, what he's doing right.
I mean, Rex's famous line was like, I don't care if my corners can tackle. I got nine other guys that can tackle, exactly. I don't want corners save touchdowns.
Because they had fifty seven out there making all those plays. All right, So do you like the cord that Robert Salaz struck early this week when he was talking to the media and said, I don't know about you guys right now, obituary on this team just yet.
There's a good line.
Yeah, there's a good line, and I think he believes it. And but you have to sell that. You have to sell that it's about the team. It's not about one guy. As good as that one guy is. It's not about one guy. It's about the team and the team and he that was proven on Monday night against Look, the Buffalo Bills just won the division three years in a row.
Like there's a team to be no wash the Bills and how they play later and they'd be like, oh, Josh Allen can't play.
No, it's a Jets problem. Defense is that good? It's like one of those things you got to give credit to the opponent, and I think.
We overreact for everything. Josh Allen stakes, right.
Yeah, we'll see that.
Yeah, the Jets that openly touchdown is Van Diggs was like, not many players can make that.
The Jets make them stink because they keep him under constant durest. And in this game, when you have a defense that can play at a high level, right, all it takes is three miscalculations or four or five.
Josh Allen probably probably had.
You know, if he go looked at the film, he may have had like seventy eighty percent great plays, but that twenty percent is forced by you know, the the defense, you know, putting him under the rest him getting hit the Raiders this week, so.
That nine quarterback hits five sacks, right, so he he takes his eyes off the ball a simple snap, yeah, yeah, because he take his eyes off the snap.
Yeah, because he's coming. Yeah. So, like that's what makes you flinch. Like not everything can make you do that.
That comes from two organizations and two coaches that basically said, if you hit quarterbacks early, they're gonna give it to you late. And like I Rex used to say that, like that's that's how they thought in Baltimore. Like that's what you got it. Like you you make it doesn't matter what the name of the back of the jersey is. You hit these guys early. Like, believe me, they they eternal clock. That eternal clock speeds up.
Get the head of snick. That's the bottom line. And the Jets got the numbers to do that each and every week. Okay, Dallas, what do you think about Not so much looking back and saying the Giants what they did to the Giants, but more so styles make fights. So how did the Jets match up with the Cowboys?
Well, you can't, like look, Dallas scored two special teams in defensive touchdown. I mean that opened the game wide open. Giants couldn't recover from them. So you can't you can't make those kind of mistakes.
But if you do.
They were down in fourth quarter thirteen to three, they came back. I would say that make Dak Prescott beat you like play like they got one big play to CD the other day off a pick play against man coverage sixty four.
I have something like that, like one sixty. He didn't have to have a great.
He didn't have to have a So you know, Mike, Mike McCarthy took the ball out of his hands. Tony Pollard is a quality back. I don't know that they have a second back, so like beat him, you know.
Look, yeah, no, no, we can go ahead and say.
Sometimes in there's a world bart like you say things that we used to say. Yeah, gets you in trouble. But see how much you want to play, you know, make him feel your punch. Let me put it that way, to feel your punch.
But you like this matchup in the secondary because you think the Jets are going to be challenged by a good set of receivers too.
I do, And I think sometimes you just mix the coverage up, you mix up variations of zone and man two man. I think you're dropping whole whole guys down there. You drop some rat some rat players, right, you think, right now, White hens playing at a high level. He's seeing the field very well, right. I think you make
Dak fitted into tight spots. And we know tip balls change games, right, So when you got tight man coverage, you challenge these guys as the line of scrimmage because I think you know it may have been a little bit more difficult. Tyron Smith is when healthy, is one of the best. But then I think Jermaine Johnson played well. I don't know if Carl Lawson is going to be up this week, but that's what you pay those guys
for your first round draft pick for a reason. And you're a high price free agent for us for a reason for these type of games.
Give him hell, right.
And on the other side, listen, Quinny, this is what people want to see you the best versus the best. So let's let's measure yourself against a nine times all pro.
Let's see if you want that smoke.
I remember like we would come in on Wednesdays and be like, hey Linbrack's got tough lifting today, right, we got LT. We're gonna dominate LT, right, and we were always real. I was with the Jets or I was with the Ravens. We were all waves up for a challenge, right. We didn't give up many hundred yard rushers, and we took pride in that right. And you gotta understand set the standard, like all right, when everybody watched this damn film.
This film ain't for for this week. It's for this week, next week and the week before, like whoa, whoa, and hold them like we say, hold him up early in the game, hold him up, don't take him down. We all gonna get we all gonna get a piece of this. We all don't take him down. If you got him, wrap him around the waist and let everybody take these Sammy saucer shots at him right quick, and let's see what happens when these body blows in the second half.
I'm here all day, get through this skun all day.
You can't go hunting for interceptions. You have to anticipate it, tip balls, all those things happen. But Dak Prescott did lead this league in interceptions last year, and he threw
two more in the postseason against San Francisco. He gets in trouble late in his progressions and like a lot of quarterbacks like, Okay, CD's not open right there, Ferguson's closed, I'm coming back over the middle here, and you get him late in the progression with that rush coming at him like he he Now he can say that's half again, you can say it. But if I'm Sauce, if I'm DJ, if I'm Carter, if I'm Whitehead, I'm thinking there's gonna
be two or three that he's gonna throw. It's either they're gonna make the play or we're gonna.
Make the play.
Like you can get them, there's no doubt you can get them. And you got to think like that. But you can't go hunting for it and take chances in gamble. You got to play your defense. But you got to keep your eyes open because there're gonna be some opportunities.
And the Jets. Jets are staying on the national stage because after Monday Night Football, where I think they just set a ratings record against them, they're going to Dallas. They're going to Big.
D afternoon game.
Yea doubleheader slot.
Everybody's watching.
Everybody's watching, So.
This is what you want.
Yeah, it's a great opportunity for a long time.
This organization played at one o'clock. They were home and they're lazy boy at five watching the Lake game, Like this is what you want to show your in prime time right now?
You know?
And the biggest ratings grab and this whole league is the Cowboys and it's their home opener, right But I played in Dallas part and if you get I don't care what year it is. I don't care who the coach is. When the Cowboys are getting beat in the fourth quarter, fans they're not sticking around like they did the other day.
They'll leave him.
They're getting too the parking lot, they're beating the traffic, like there's no better feeling that if you come into Dallas at and T Stadium and you see fans leaving, there's no better feeling.
I want to see a guy, see I take a person like whenever you go against guys, like when you're trying to sin and become a superstar, you take it personal. So if I'm goy like Vera Tucker, I said, y'all think he the guy, let me show.
You what I got.
Yeah, And I want to see them pulling the next generation. Yeah, I want I want to see them pulling Vera Tucker. I want them to highlight Vera Tucker in this run game. He's one of the in my opinion. If he would have got hurt and he would have just played guard last year, he'd have been a Pro Bowler and this year he'd have been on schedule for All progre He's one of the best, most versatile, but he's selfless, right, so he moved the tackle if you need him to and play at a high level, and I give up
any sacks. Before the injury, he was playing some of the best football that I've seen from offensive line.
I remember Zeke talking about Jack Martin. Youre talking about Jack Martin, the right guard, Yes, in his tenth year right now, and he just got paid like he held out, didn't go to training camp, and they paid him. And I remember Zeke saying a couple of years ago, our best player is number seventy. He goes I don't care if the play is supposed to go left, it ends up behind seventy. And when you watch the Cowboys play, it ends up behind the right guard. He's just that good,
and so Quinny goes up against him. You want to get matched up. You want to show everybody like while you're worth the check that the Jets wrote, Like beat Zack Martin, beat Zack Martin the way you beat that center the other day, Like you do that that catches everybody's eye.
All right, Prime time performances from both of you guys today. That's Brian baldinre Bart Scott, Subscribe, break Review, had a coffee as well, and bang the like on YouTube. These guys are bringing it not only here in the podcast, but Jet's Game Day with Robert Sala that airs this weekend at CBS, also on New York Tess dot com and YouTube. We'll see y'all later, ye