A Conversation with Jets DL Quinnen Williams (12/6)

you're still twenty four years old? How about that? It's super dope, man, I'm stilling young being it's a lot of rookies coming in, like the quarterback from George I believe I think he's twenty five. But it's the funny to me, man, like, if you need to be twenty four years old, still in the NFL for four years now, Uh, it's super dope. Blessing. So and just a couple of weeks you're gonna turn How do you guys celebrate that birthday?

Being in New Jersey and New York, it's so cold, so like me and my wife like to stay in, just cook dinner and just chill different things like that. So who's doing the cooking? Do you guys do to cook. Probably it's my birthday, so she got to cook for me. What's gonna be the meal? I don't know. She loved cooking like afraid, Opasta sam and different things like that. Something healthy. Since we're still in season, I try to

stay on a strict diet steer. So speaking of standing out a strict diet, can you talk about how you came into camp this year? Everybody was raving about cute by shape of his life. Yeah, this is all season, man. I really I really took upon myself just learning different things in my first three years and doing learning different things I wanted to get get done and learn different things I wanted to do better in my next year.

And one of those big things with nutrition and um endurance, and that was one of the big things that I talked to Nikkia nutrition is and me and her got an amazing playing down and pack down together and had to strict conditioning staff all buying into it and different things like that. So sticking to it, man, this whole all season. I feel like I came into trying to count best shape of my career. So that was one

of the biggest thing I wanted to get accomplished. And I think I did what predominantly stands out in terms of maybe what you did fitness wise and then what you did from a nutrition aspect. I think it's two machines. I think the scheme machine and the roll machine was two big machines. I did uh this all season at Different Breed Sports Academy with my training ain't done. He's an amazing during training bro and the Scheme machine in

the row machine. With the first two machines, I was like, yo, like I am dying on this machine, like and um, it was just fun man, just being able to get in shape like I wanted to be and it was hard going through it. And nutrition wise, it was like it was everything still good and still healthy and different things like So it wasn't a huge change. I just started eating more vegetables, different varieties of vegetables and different

things like that. So twelve games into your fourth professional season, how do you feel physically at this point? I feel amazing if he's laughing at people telling I'm still young, so I don't really get sore too much. But it's it's it's attestment to my diet and nutrition stuff and my wife for real. So you're always talking about the team, but can I ask you just to talk about yourself just for a little bit. What do you think about

your campaign to date? You got nine sacks, You're one of the best run stuffers in the National Football League. You're constantly double on triple team, but the production is still there. Oh, I just think I'm doing my job, understand man, that everybody hold me to accountability to a high standard, and just like I hold everybody else to accountability and to a high standard. And that's one of those things that we all speak to each other like C J. Moses got a hundred tackles and uh, people

like don't talk about that a little bit. And not even like O c J. Mosy. He tells everybody to play call. He give everybody thing. So it's one of those things like without c J. Mosley, nobody, no, all ten of us on the field won't know what to do. So it's like it's a chain of command. Is everybody have to do their job to a high standard and high accountability for everybody to work, just like you need brakes on the car and the transmission and different things

like that to get that car rolling. So and I think that's a testament to my teammates and a testament to UM, each and everybody that lined up next to me and on the field to help me do my job to the best of my ability. Where does that humility come from? You always have that. It's just one of those things knowing that you're you're not alonger that it's not a it's not a single sports game like golf of tennants or anything like that. UM, It's one of those things like you need a team, you need

your players. Next to me in that boundment, it was like every single bout on that field had that same mindset that we all need each other, no matter if you five star, four star, this star, we all need each other to be successful. So we're talking before about Chris Jones. Is he a guy that you talked to? And also do you study his tape? For sure? I study I studia after the game, Yes, for sure. Man like Christian Flesher Costs one of my good mentors that

I always talked to each and every game. Guys, so I've been looking up to since college and learning after learning different techniques and learning my whole game after them two guys and UM just had them guys to really mentor me as a dream come true for me, Um, and just keep continue to pick their brains and different things like that. So when them guys get ready to retire, I can still keep pushing on. What what do you like about both of their games? Um? Both of them

so physical and they're like they're big, they're huge humans. Man. They get do the things that I want to do, like get skin in the gaps and throw for this move through power move, become good run stoppers and just um, their motors, the athletic abilities and the different things that they do. We can we caut and to be consistent that it than to be leaders on their defensive line, not on the on the DEFERENSI line, be on their team. And that's why I want to become and that's what

I want to do. So do you think you've become that. I remember you walking to the door when you were baby face Ki, but now even though you're a couple of weeks shot here at five, you're one of the longest tenured players on roster. Yeah, I definitely feel like I've earned the boys to speak up and do things like that, but not just be a leader, but just be somebody who uh who who's been experienced and um

and different things like that. Um, but I didn't feel like I came into my own of being a leader of different things like that on how I speak to people and how I talk to people, and just how we hold each other accountable and having a leader like c J. Moses and make it way easier when when you say something and c J but not his head, like yeah, y'all need to listen to you, Like having somebody to bag you of like c J. Moses is

unbelievable to have. So how cool is it for you guys to share that connection that not only do you play professionally together, but you were trained under the same man at Alabama. Alwa's unbelievable because he like, I'm not the only one that believes in the humility, that believes in the team work, the effort, the different things like there's another guy who's one of the best linebackers in

the NFL. UM, I feel like a couple of years now, UM, who went through that same path and believe the same thing, believing who's earned the respect of many players in this whole league and many people in this whole league. Um, they feel the same way I feel when they come down to different such and different situations and stuff like that. So having a leader like that in your organization on your team, help me become a leader and help me UM get enough confidence to speak up when I need

to speak up. So foremost, what's at the top of your mind When somebody says nixt Savan the goat, yeah, I say to go man, because they go like for real, just because the many guys who came through his program and stick to his program, and the many guys who became successful no matter on the field off the field after that program is the reason why I think he used to go How much does it mean to you being part of a team that's not only ascending, not

only is growing, but came from a certain level when you were drafted. Now people are talking about potentially playoffs and you guys are focused on the process here. But it seems like this group is developing in front of our eyes and this is just the start of something

definitely amazing. And this attest me to the organization and the coaches staff today brought in Um and bringing into different guys who's from a winning culture like Corn Alexander, uh DJ Reid and draft picks like Sauce Gardener and uh Jermaine Johnson. Different guys that they brought in who haven't winning mindset, a winning attitude and the winning tradition to come in here and just spread the winning joy

and the positivity of winning around the whole organization. Not just winning, but doing the right way and the right things to win. And it's just amazing to have great leaders like UM, especially in captain like Hardy and C. J. Mosley and UM. Different guys like that man that's who who come in who pushes everybody each and every day to pull out their best and be the best. And not only guys just talking but walk the walk also.

So what do you think about sla here in the second season and and steps that you guys have taken under him? Well, I think he's phenomenal, man. I just think, like UM, the passion he's bringing weakend and week out, the trust he has and his captains and the offense and deeper different things itself. It's just coming out weekend without it and just always have great messages to us every single day, no win or losses, but to get better weekend recounting every single day and everything will take

his course on his own. And you can feel like that's been going on since last year, like getting better each and every day, homing on the small details and doing the things you need to do to be the best you can be weekend to week out. So externally, it was a heartbreaking loss in Minnesota because you guys had opportunities down the stretch come back from a twenty three deficit, just weren't able to get all over the top. But I was under ground in Minnesota in the locker room.

It seemed like to a man that, hey, you guys thought should one again. Secondly, there's things to clean up, but third no moral victories because winning and losing that's the only thing that matters in NFL. Oh definitely, man, winning and losing matters of anything. No matter what you're doing life like, you're gonna either win and lose, and the winners is the ones who are gonna stick around

for a long time. But at the same time, it's like that was an unbelievable football team we just played, and we had multiple, multiple opportunities to beat that football team, And and that's attention to us being a good football team also, And that's the thing that go back to the small details we gotta fix in the little inches we gotta take to make game changing plays or game

changing sacks or game changing touchdowns. It is the things we got to go back to the drawing board, go back to the film and learn where we can take those inches and take those small steps in the small details where we can finish football games against a great football team and a great quarterback. Because, um, these teams that win the Super Bowl, they do that, they do the small details, they do the small thing, They take the small um inches on their game personally and as

a team as a group to win Super Bowl. So they're no long run. Can you be better from that experience planning the road hostile environment. That's a team that now is ten and two, and much like yourself, has really excelled in the fourth quarter throughout the year. I think during that game, you guys were plus fifty one and scoring differential in the final quarter and they were plus fifty. So that's a team that has gotten it

done late. I think sometimes even though you didn't get that outcome you wanted, you desired that down the stretch, that experience could help every one of that every one of the players on that roster. Wings a loss, you can help your season, gold Man, because you can learn from your wings and just like you can learn from your losses. So um learning in general is a big thing that I speak on on to the defense of the deep line room. No matter you did a good

or bad, focus on the extra steps. Like if you did something good, find out how you can do that even faster, or even even strong or even even even like more of with technique and different things like that. And that's how the the great to be great. That's how Aaron Donna become Aaron Donna, or you hear about

all the story. I watch a lot of documentaries on like Reggie White or like different legends like Deon Center and the different things that they do to take their game to the next level so they can be more consistent throughout the years. And that's what they speak on, the small details and the small things to help you take your game, no matter win or the losses. So what do you like most about the defensive tackle position.

I think the biggest thing about defensive tackle that I like the most is like you can affect a run or a pass like as a dB is like you can only really affect the pass. Like, so it's like one of those things. As a linebacker you gotta rely on like defensive linemen and dbs for the past and a run. But I think as a defensive tackles, like you can affect the run. If it's a runt player, you can be able to make a runt stop. If it's a pass player, you can you get to get

a sackle or quarterback here go hurt. So um being a dominant defense attack is big in the NFL. I feel like because you can affect no matter what happens on the field, that dominatet detacker will be able to affect um, pass or run. So what's the key in getting off the ball so quickly? I think everybody got their own thing. I know. I talked to Christian Fletching everybody like that and just deep paining and Jonathan Allen and everybody in the league like who I talked to,

Like it's just your own thing. You might be fan work, might be key and somebody Jerry's kying the ball a key and the wrist elbow or just knowing the cadence listening. I know a lot of people listen to like the the TV additional home games to get somebody the cadence and different things like that. So it's really like a lot of techniques you can use or a lot of things you can use in your way. So how much you enjoy that the study part of the game and

actually the prep work that goes into being a great player. Oh, I love it. Bro I I studied so much. And so funny because my wife just graduated from the Youth University of Alabama and she was like, you know, you really like I got a doctorate in football, and I just bust out laughing. I'm like, I really do. Got studied so much of football, and I know so much about football. Just the i Q level that I have

about football is unbelievable. And not just continue to study and continue to learn from guys in front of me or even guys behind me. So all right, So I started the National Football Working two thousanden. I was a PR intern with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They had a guy at the time who is a great three technique to funds attackle Warren Sap. That's that's why I look at all the time. He said, you look at Sap all the time. What do you admire most about his game?

I think the biggest thing I admire most is his athletic ability, to him being so big, um, him being so um, especially interior interior, because I was three taken to take uh with him being in three tickets like man like he's really a rushing a guard or a center like the duminy As Russia's Russia Inn. And that was the biggest thing. That Chreas does a lot too, and Fletch does a lot too, and I wanted to be able to put that in my game, to be able to rush fast and fluent it with the athletic

ability like them guys. So is it something Over the years you talk about talking to Flesh, talking to Chris, have you had an opportunity to talk to Sap at all? Na? Not yet? Okay, NA, I know he's an amazing guy, Like I see him fishing all the time on Instagram and different stuff like that. So if I get the opportunity to talk to him, Okay, well we're letting him know right now that you're a fan of his game.

But uh, the way Fletcher goes about his business and then the way Chris goes about it, um the differences like you were talking about before, and also the similarities between them and your game. They got a lot of stuff different flesh. One of a power guy who can do the edge rushed stuff, but he's loves he loves power, and different things like the increase one of the fine guys who can do the beg out Russians or the one bouncers in the inside of different things like that.

And with my game, I just feel like I take both of those, trying to take a little nuggets out of both of the amazing gang of these we're talking about all pro future Hall of Fame detacles, and I just try to take a little small stuff from each one of their games and like stealing almost from each one of those games, and try to put it in my own body, in my own mind and making my own way. So it's a big thing. Like because Viney Curry Gouy on our team, who played with who got

drafted with fledg to play with Fletch. He'll be like, we'll be watching fan He'll just bust out laugh. He was like, Bro, you look just like Fletch on this play, Like and it's so funny because like I watched myself do it so much, or I watched Fletch doing so much. I'm like, I gotta recreate that same move, the same step, the same way, on the same you know, the same guard, especially if Philly already play that team. I try to recreate the same exact atmosphere, the same exact move and

stuff like that. And Viny Curry I always laugh at me. It'd be like, Bro, you look just like Fletching that move. Like how much you like playing with Vinnie? Seems like he's so passionate, thats so positive. He's super passion superpolot and super like smart when it comes out of different things. He's been there, He's warning a super Bowl. He know,

hows it look um? He know? He just he's just so experiencing different nuggets and the wisdom that he acknowledged that he gives each and every one of us young guys in the room and everything that that is amazing to hell. So you mentioned in terms of those guys Pro Bowls before potential Hall of Famers, What about you? You? How much would it mean to you to be a

Pro bowler and a first team All Pro? Because I think you should be definitely a pro bowler, and if people are considering you for first team All Pro, they gotta get their heads jet It'll be cool, man. But the biggest thing I focused on, Bro, it's just like I'm a big personal like um, like doing the right thing all the time. And if I'm doing the right thing all the time, everything else gonna handle his self when he come down to the accolades and different things

like that. But all our control is like dominate on the field, being in the right spot, doing the job the right way, on handling my business on the fielding off the field the right way, and just being being myself each and every time I line up um when he come down to executing and communicate to my deepenst line and different things like that. So how pressed are you with the way Carl has come back from an

achilles injury and been such a beast off the edge. Oh, I knew that was gonna happen, and I knew it was gonna happen, like even like people people. I was in training camp before a car got injured and just to see, like, yo, Car, you are unbelievable animal bees

majestic out here, Like yeah, we got injury. It was just fortunate to see him get injured and everything like that, and um, he came back on a tear and it was like, oh, my goodness to see him starting to get sacks and to see him started to ball out, and to see him start to trust his achilles and get comfortable back to himself. It's just wonderful to see.

And it's like, you like, come on, let's go car like and car always tell us all the time, like he says, so happy to have us, and just to appreciate that we have for each other in the Deefenst line room is unbelievable and one of the best defense line room I've been a part of, especially when guys can hold each other accountable, constructive, criticize each other and I'll get better at one because we always want to see each other seceed and be the best player we

could be. So do you see parallels with your game from Carl? I know he plays a totally different positions. He's out there on that, but in terms of sheer power, because one of the biggest compliments I think Robert Sale has e'vever given you is that you know you watch quinnin on film and he's just he gets places in a hurry, and people I think when they watch you, they realize this guy is an explosive player. But you're

so powerful. Yeah, Carl teach me a lot. Like I just said, I'm trying to get my game to the point where i can rush interior like right is Russia Like Car teaching me so much when it come down to hand placement, attacking somebody, the angles and different things that he's learned. He has so much willing to come down to power rush moves at the ends Russia and

finesse moves rush. So a lot of these things I stare from Car and learn from Car and different things like that when they come down to attacking people, angles and attacking people on soft spots and they're set, and different things like that I get from Cars. So for sure get a lot of stuff. Car is unbelievable to me, So I'm gonna I'm gonna definitely take something. Yeah, I gotta ask you about sack number nine that's up in the prush boxes. Everybody's like, well, who got there? When

we see you at the bottom of the file. Did the guys talked to you after that? What I was wondering if there's gonna be any shares therein the first It's kind of funny because it's it's so hard to get a sack, a single sack. Having car and JFM and Brace and Shard, the rankings and all these the dominant dominant pass rushes up front, it's so hard. So it's like you gotta beat the guy in front of you, then you gotta beat your teammates and get the sack.

So it's so hard to get up. But that's man, I'm so blessed to have unbelievable guys like that right next to me, and guys I could depend on, guys that I know. It's got the same gold and the same tenacity that I got. So how much have the guys in the back end help you guys do your

jobs this year? Oh? Unbelievable. Like DJ Readsas Gardner and all those dvs back there, bro there they oh they without them, there's no delone because it's just be seven on seven out there picking balls, getting kissed and deep balls, get calling different things like that. So you're sitting right. Yeah,

you see a lot of hitches now, a lot. You see the quarterback having to take his time and wait to receivers get open and different things like that, and it's eye and they'll go back to having a defense that communicated and execute on one accord. And then this goes back to no matter like you need. Let's go back to what I was saying about the team aspect, and you need. You're not just out there by yourself.

It's not just Quinn Wins out there getting the sack, as a lot of stuff goes into getting one sack. So to think about having four guys goes into one sack and having a living guys do their job at the same time. So it's a testament to get each and everybody on their defense opportunity. You're always preparing for the next series. But how about Mike White in the way he's acquitted himself through two games, seems like such

a cool customer. He's amazing. How man an amazing quarterback room in general with all three of those guys, all four though guys in there, and um, I don't really like get a chance to be around those guys too much on the officsive side, But um, no matter, everybody's everybody's on my team, so you're on my team on cheering for you to success and cheering for you to

have a great game and different things like that. So Mike, cause, Mike Cleats, can you talk about what you were wearing and warm ups and what your brother your older brother or uh they're during the game against the bis. My call my Cleats was American Cancer Side. I'm American canch side, the ambassador, and I do a lot of stuff with

breast counsel. That's why I really specialize in because my mom passed away from breast counselor when we were teenagers and UM, I had one click UM dedicated to breast

cancer and women fight and different things like that. When to come down to breast count, the whole clik was pink, and I had another click dedicated to the American side and all the work that they do to bring awareness of breast counsel and all the things that they do to bring awareness for breast counter and different things like that.

And it just amazing opportunity to get a chance to put a on a major platform like an NFL football game, UM awareness of breast counc and aware to all cancer and awareness to different um mental health disease and different things like that. That each and every one of the football players got an opportunity to share with the world a boy through cleeks and it was an amazing opportunity for me to get a chance to um where these dope claks. That means a lot to me and near

dead in my heart. So I think you were twelve one you lost your mother. When people ask you who she was as a person, what are some of the first things that you said, Uh, I think she was.

She had a lot of traits like saving honestly, like she was like super discipline, super like she was just super like, like detail oriented because she was a school teacher for so long and my grandmother was a school teacher and they always preach like discipline, effort, toughness, like different things that coach saban Uh used to teach about. But she was definitely a leader, and she always wanted her boys to be leaders. And I always wanted us to give effort and give it all. Anything we do

give all to us. So I could definitely say she was one of the most Uh influenced, influenced, influenced peace in my life. So how cool they think she would think it would be for her looking down at you and Que and the same defense playing the same professional team,

and she'll be she'd be super excited. She did know we would be arguing a lot though, but that would be like she'd be like, yeah, I gotta stop arguing, like out there like you don't want to court and different things do you Guys don't argue, but we the way we constructed criticize each other. You'll sound like an argument, but just brothers thought because we know each other. Yeah, it'd be like quincide Que missed attack, like Patriots guy and he missed the tackle. That's why I don't feel

like third and fourth team miss a tackle. And I was like like, come on, bro, Like they weren't like come on, bro. It was like you know what I'm saying. Like he would looked at me, it was like I got you, I got you, bro. I was like, you got me. Body, you need to make the tackle on the field, you know what I'm saying. So it was something super dope bro that we always we always and my mom thinks my mom used to think we're always arguing and bigger, but we were just like construct the

criticizing each other harsher though tough. Yeah, exactly. So it's cool though. Man another out of the spectrum though, when you see him take a running back out or receiver out and you see that big hit. That what frustrates me when he missed over his because he got so he's I think he's one of the best tackling linebackers in the NFL, one of the most hardhanded players in the NFL. Like, so when he missed a tackle, it's like, Bro, you're a professional. Like it's like a sniper missing his

shot in the military. Like you know what I'm saying. So it's like team bro. Like, so, like he's a he's an unbelievable tacklerst so he missed tackles, It's like it's detrimental to me because, like, Bro, that's what you do. Like, but it's unbelievable. Like, but he's a super fast, super explosive player in himself, So you're might unbelievably gracious with the time. What's close here? What do you think about the rematch with the Bills? Well, what do you think

it's gonna be? Like an Orchard Park this weekend? A few weeks back, you guys beat them. I think it's gonna be a great opportunity to play an amazing football team again for the second week. We played the Vices last week this week and unbelievable quarterback and it's uh, it's an unbelievab football team. I believe opportunity for us as the Jets to get a chance to play against those guys so unique down amazing. Yeah, yeah, I think

it's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. He's big, strong, and you don't care about contact, you don't care about deeper the tackles or d n rushing them. Um, he'll throw the ball like he threw the ball last week on the edge of the some spectacular stuff that you rarely see from a quarterback when they come down to physicality and different things like that. So you guys been whites out in the second half. It's giving up ten points over the last four games the second half. That's

about two and a half points. Again, what does that say about the group and the coaching staff and what you guys are doing at halftime because there coming out and shutting the door. I think that's what I see.

The same is a lot um Our biggest thing is getting that second half, the transition to the first half UM, that's our biggest thing that when I come when I always say small, finding the small details, finding the next step and from whins our losses to get to the next step and see how how can we turn the second half into the first half, how we can put the whole four quarters in the same direction that we

did two quarters in And that's the biggest thing. I think that the organization, notization, but the coach style and UM defensive staff and the defensive players. We're trying to find that the next step in the next level on how we can do the same thing for the first half in the second uh que, thanks for stopping by the studio. UM. We will be watching that all Pro vote later on, but for France, you still can vote

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holidays season? Akuda metatos and listen. I'm not in such a bad mood after a Jet loss when you when I look at how good the team played. So I'm in good spirits, man, I'm incased, like all Jet fans should be. Okay, So why are you so encouraged? Because a couple Jets fans probably were expecting to gridge to that. No, no, because when when you look at how this team competed against the team that's nine into how the defense you know, uh clapped down later and figure it out, you know,

how to take the space away from the receivers. They challenged them they got up in their faces opposed to playing off on on third and short. They figured it out and Mike White didn't disappoint. I think they if they would have would have been able to get off earlier and make those adjustments earlier, they would have been able to who kind of get that offense in the rhythm. And so I give the Jets a lot of credit for being scrappy. I give him a lot of credit

for going in a tough environment. And this is a learning experience right now, Mike White's been in these type of games. I think they'll have a better plan, uh for next next week or next time. And they're in a situation how to put points on the board. They moved the ball up and down the field, they weren't

able to cash in. You know, that's about chemistry, that's about being put in situations, adjustments, being able to make audibles, and you know, I think La Flour has to kind of get down what Mike does well and how teams are defending them. And you know, that's all a learning experience. So the Jets are getting on the on the job training, but I think they still have a very good opportunity to make it the playoffs as you can see what

happened in the rest of the division. I think, like I said before, when I was on the show and I said that, hey, I think that the Miami Dolphins are doomed or I don't think they may make the playoffs, and everybody laughed at me. Everybody called into my to my all the shows and platforms that I'm on and told me that was crazy. But then when you look at what happened against Mr Irrelevant in the San Francisco forty Niners, they were able to do what they did.

So I think the Jets still are in great play to maybe finish fifth. They have to take care of business, no doubt, but I'm encouraged by what I what I saw, and um, I think they're a live dog against the Buffalo Bills this week. Hey, listen, you are crazy. Uh. And don't forget to give brock Purty some love. He did some nice things for the forty Niners and their win over the Miami Dolphins. Uh. Let's get to what's

happening in the second half for the Jets. Has it gotten to the point where the narrative has changed on this team, because in that third quarter where you felt the momentum changing, and then we turned the page into the fourth quarter. My expectation being there in Minnesota was the Jets are gonna win this game. So I kind of speak that. I kind of think that speaks volumes of what Robert saloon Is roupe has done, because yes, the Vikings are a very good team and they did prevail,

but the Jets had every opportunity to win that game. Well, you know what I hope this week when they go and they do their shortyard his girl goal line, they taking one of those remember those when you're a kid and you had to go to track practice, They had one of those that that big Matt for the high jump. Yeah, I just want I want the running backs and guys to practice just going over the top because we saw

Patrick Mahomes just break the plane. That's pretty much all it takes, and it is extremely hard to stop people when they jump and dive over it. In the linement cut everybody and another linebacker has to meet another running back in the air. So you know, I come from the time where you know LT and all those guys, you should just get airborne. Now everybody's trying to sneak in and get low. Hopefully we can work on that because I think this won't be the last time this

situation comes up. We just gotta have it, you know. Could you remember when we played the Bengals, we had to have it and we went to our goal line package in the middle of the football field and we got airborne to get the first down. You know, So when when he comes to situation football and you gotta have it, you know, I think we gotta start practicing that, and I'm encouraged that we can get it done even

if we don't go through that. This is just my suggestion. Yeah, do you think it is a learning experience here from Mike White? He's only making a second start here this season. Um, obviously did a lot of good things, but especially late. You just mentioned something that I think I want to emphasize here is that that connection with him and Mike

Lafleur is gonna build over time. Right. Yeah, yeah, you know that that has to marinate a little bit and listen, at the end of the day, Mike White made the play for the game. It's just unfortunate that Braxton Burials couldn't make the play. But you know, you talk about not really having a lot of experience with Braxton Burials because he hasn't been the starter. But they kind of

saw what each other saw. You heard Mike White after the game say, hey, you know they were playing you know basically what they did is, um, the third man in instead of usually that you run from inside out. We saw c J try and make that same play when you have like bunch sets and you run to the you know, the first inside. But what they did

is they went four over three. So instead of you know, first high, first outside, first inside, what they did is they had the linebacker go outside leverage, knowing that the middle linebacker was gonna take the pivot route because that's usually what happens. Right. So now that's a learning experience, and you know, he still found the whole Bracton Burials just couldn't you know, hold on and sometimes that happens.

But um, the fact that they were able to improvise on the fly, um with just seeing what each other saw. That means that they're having discussions and they're sitting down watching film together. It's such a cool customer. Mike White unflappable. Listen, things weren't going to Jets way early. And then he came back in the second half and played his best football.

What do you thin just see only as for Garrett Wilson, I mean I think that, um, you know, just think like if we didn't have the three games, that was a briefe Hall show. And you know, I think that, you know, he was still a little beat up from the Cincinnati game with the rib injuries, but he had three three games where he kind of didn't get a lot of attempts and didn't get the ball and wasn't treated like a number one receiver and and and and

deservedly so because Breece Hall was. You know, it's a lot easier to handed it until running back stomach and be able to go home run. But I think he's put itself late in the I think I think he is offensive Rookie of the Year, don't you. Well it's tough, right because you have Chrys Alive right who has made who before the game started had two in the yards on him as far as production. And that's why I go back to those three games where you know, he

really wasn't involved in the offense. But what what he has over Chris Alive is the fact that Chris Alive isn't playing for a play. Well, let me take that back. Oddly enough, I see within that deficsion with four wins there one game out of first place, which is crazy. But I don't think that the that the voters will look at it that way. When you see that. Garrett Wilson effect on winning is greater than I believe Chris alive.

So he's still alive, dog, and you know, with five games left, I think he'll you know, be the first Jet I don't know if he'll be the first Jet receiver ever since Keishawn Johnson to half like over a thousand yards receiving in his rookie campaign, but um, he has a chance to eclipse Keishawan Johnson and maybe be the all time receiving rookie in the Jets history. And I think that's something to be said. And I think

that warrants potentially Offensive Player of the Year. I know what Kenneth Walker was doing and is doing with Seattle, you know, running back sometimes get that award as they're starting to kind of you know, level out a little bit as well, I know they got to win. So listen, Gary Wilson, his setling to me is justin Jefferson silly. I look at him in his rookie season the same way I look at Justin Jefferson. He has an opportunity to go well over a thousand yards and I think

becoming solidified. So as one of the better um number one receivers in the league, I think definitely. So you're talking about a guy who, at this point in the rookie seasons, a lot of guys are hitting a wall. He's just plowing through the wall, and he's accelerating. His game is getting better and better. He's become such a weapon for this team, and you can make the argument that the Jets are gonna have the offensive rookie of

the year and the defensive rookie of the year. All Right, I want to get back to the short yardage bit. You talked a little bit about Mike White and burials there and then also the running back jumping up over the pile a k Ladinia tim Sin. But where do you stand just a general overall philosophy, being a guy used to be a linebacker in the National Football League did so at a high level with the quarterback sneak, not for the chats for anybody like in that third

and one fourth and one kind of range. I mean, it's guys that are different and being able to do it. Like we know that Drew Brees was good at it, right. He was a guy that would just go there, jump over the top, get the ball smacks out of his hand, but break the plane with with with possession of the ball. And it was a high percentage goal line guy that way. Right. Also, you saw a guy like Tom Brady who was almost like on his career and quarterback sneaks. He went low right.

But you know, for me, you know right now, what I love is you know quarterbacks, you know, motioning out and letting. Running backs are tight ends do that because they have more leg drive or tight ends doing it and being pushed from behind. So I really like that and wedging it up. I like that scenario as well.

So listen, Mike White isn't um you know Tom Brady, Michael Vick or Jalen Hurts, and he has his strength of weaknesses and he was able to get in you know, um after foll the review figure out that he got in, but it didn't look pretty. It's other ways. It's more

than one way to skin a cat. But I would love the jet to be able to start playing with some of the personnel groupings, you know, when you when you like that, I mean, why not just have one receiver and bring all your extra lineman in and wedge block everything, right, I mean, I think it's different ways to be creative, right because you can you can you can put your offensive linement back, and I think that's what's gonna take for the floor, especially when you get

in that situation. Yeah, I love what Dallas Cowboys do when they get in the red zone when they go with the four tight ends, and they have so many different plays off of it, because then now you've got guys on the outside that can wedge block and in superior blockers, and now you get the numbers up. And also you know they they they've run um tight end sweeps. I've seen shuffle passes out of it, and so I think you have a lot of great opportunity to break

the formation. You get linebackers on on on tight ends, you're able to run a little bubble screens. You know, if you put them all out there, that the legal pick play. So there's a lot of different plays and personnels, but and everybody does it differently, So you have to take your best personnel group and I think come up with unique plays and for those special situations, I mean, because you want to be able to present something, to show something that the office hasn't seen, right, so that

you're you're forcing them to adjust on the fly. And that's what Kansas City does, That's what the Dallas Cowboys does. And they're one of the higher percentage um you know, uh teams in the red zone as far as red zone efficiency. All Right, Jets builds the rematch, you figure you're gonna get Buffalo's best shot. Obviously they're playing for

a division, you're playing for the playoffs. If you stated multiple times, listen, if the Jets won this game, they'd have a sweep of the Bills and will only be a game behind division. Steaks are really high. But let's talk about the counters the chess match. How is Buffalo gonna approach this game defensively different with the with a different approach? Possibly no Von Miller, but Matt Milono's back in the lineup, Jordan Plawyers back in the lineup, and

Trey White's back in the lineup for them. Yeah, I mean, I think you think that they're gonna feel comfortable that they can be able to stop the run this time, but that this is a different running back in a different running game. You know. Now it wasn't Breefe haul in the first game to begin with, but now you think about Bam Night, it's a little different type of

running game. You saw that he was able to be in the corner, use his speed, you know, on that end around, you know, to the left and left side. That went for an explosive play. So you know, I think that the first thing is they're gonna say, okay, well they don't give up big plays. That's traditionally what they've always been. But they don't have Michael High, so like it's not like they have two safeties back there. So now you have to take advantage. Let's see if

they try and eat Mike White up. They understand that Mike White. You know, the first game you would say like, okay, well Mike White against the Bears, quick stuff, right, But you saw a little bit further down the field now, and I think Mike White should feel you know, if you can handle at Oliver and the interior pressure, you feel confident with the fact that you know they got Boogie Basham who's more of a you know bull rush, power pass rusher, and Roussoul who's coming off an injury.

You have to take advantage that they don't have their closure right now and take advantage of that and hope that you can have a little bit more time. And let's see, like I think, you know, the Buffalo Bills are gonna try and say, okay, well we got your days White, but you know, you can move him around, put them in the slice, a lot of different things

you can do. They're gonna try and keep everything in front because traditionally when they have been at their peak and playing at their best football, they don't give up big plays. But it's opportunities for I think you you get big plays against his team. But it has to

all start with the running game. You have to let them know that no matter what the adjustments that you made, they're still on another because we still can run the football physically on downhill and at that being you know, going in with with with George Fatt and and I really would love to see him come in as tackle eligible, knowing that he played a little tight end, but just the threat of just having you know, a tight end there or extra down innalz of scrimmage, tackle over type

of thing, and it's try and pound the Buffalo Bills and see if they made the necessary adjustments. Look at you talking about four tight end sets. Now you're talking about three tight end sets, getting those jumbo packages in there and ground and pound. How about the other side of the ball. Speaking of pounding, the Jets really delivered a lot of blows to Josh Allen in that first game. Bryce huff Uh injured his elbow on the run one

pass rush really late in the game. What do you think as far as the chess mash Uh is concerned with the Bill's offense against this Jets defense who shut the door down on the Vikings in the second half. The Vikings were really good on third down conversions in the first half, but they didn't get a lot at all the second half. Yeah, I don't I don't know if Dawkins is going to be back, but you know, being able to attack that left tackle side, you know what I mean. They he the backup barely made it

through the game. I mean they went and basically cast at his ankle and you know he was just holding on for their life. So the ability with the Jets to be able to heat him up with with with four. It's key. But the fact that the Jets just continue coming in waves. I think you know bows well. You know with Josh Allen you also always have to be you know, conscious of of you know, him running the football.

I think this week you don't put you can't put C. J. Mosey up in the line of scrimmage because last game, what did they do? They check to a quarterback keeper to the left side. He hit his head on the goal post. They have a plan for that when they see that package. So you have to take that out because they have the answers for that, unless you want to bluff them into that and maybe blitz with the

cornerback or do something unique like that. But you understand that they've scouted that, that that personel grouping and that that front and when you think that you're maybe getting one on ones with your guys, Josh Allen is comfortable and capable enough of making that necessary adjustment. I don't want to see you get burned twice by the same thing. He's gonna give you some opportunities to make some plays in the football, right Listen, Alan is such a talent

not only throwing the football, but running the football. Is he just articulated, but at times he's gonna put it out there and sometimes he can be a little careless with the ball in the pocket. Right. Yeah, absolutely, he's loose with the football. He's a guy that you know, when it gets tough, he's just gonna go ahead and say, Okay, I'll put my body at risk. He's gonna run the football, and you know you have to be able to make

plays on him. Right. He may they trying to protect him from himself a little bit, so they don't have him run a lot early in the game. But when his fourth quarter, all bets are off and they need this game, you know, so importantly because because with the loss of Kansas City, they want the playoffs to go through order Park. To do that, they got to beat the Jets, and the Jets gotta be up for the task and say, listen, we have our own aspirations and um,

something has to give. Uh where are you with the Jets rush defense? Dalvin Cook got his in the first half. I thought they did a nice job in the second half of making some adjustments. Against the Bills. We saw a buffalo kind of take it to the Patriots on the ground with motor singletary and then Cook's brother James Cook. Um, you gotta watch out for Cook out of the backfield

and as far as passing the game. But what do you think about the matchup with the Bills backs against the Jets rushed defense and also defending against the Backs in the past game. But I think we're showing the rankings back. It gives balance on on both sides. You know, Solomon Thomas sometimes it's good for past situations, but he can't anchor just because he doesn't have the pure size and wait to be able to do that. But I

think the Jets have the advantage across the board. When you talk about the ability to be able to create a lot of pressure. Um, it's tough to run uh sideways on the Jets because they can get into they can get um up the field, and they can beat blocks and it's hard to cut them off. So I think it's a little different against the Patriots, who are more of a two gap and stand still with those

massive guys. Because of the Jets have you know, athletic mobile tackles, They're able to beat those fronts and those zone blocks and be able to get up field and make tackles from the inside. So I think it's a totally different beast. I think because they had Russian success last week against the Patriots, it's a totally different animal because of the ability and versatility of the interior alignment for the Jets. When I talked to speak about them defensively,

how cool of an opportunity is this? Uh for the Jets literally and figuratively. You know what it's gonna be called in Buffalo. You just played in a great environment in Minneapolis. The Vikings are gonna be hosting playoff games this year, likely NFC's number two seed. They're still in the conversation for the number one seed of Philadelphia loses a couple of games. But uh, Buffalo again, Uh, you've played their multiple times, great environment, and again they have

big aspirations. They haven't been home in a few weeks. Uh, that place is gonna be crazy, And I think the Jets can just benefit being in a game like this. Absolutely, and the Jets, because you know, they played indoors even though they were in Minnesota, they didn't have to deal with to the elements. But you have to understand what happens to the football when it's cold, it becomes slick and hard and it's eating ball. Security job security. So not only Bam Knight who you know, it's newly to

the starting lineup. We've got to make sure we secured the football. You know, sometimes he was fighting for extra jars and spinning and the ball was coming away from his body. Didn't hurt him last week, it can hurt him this week. So you got to make sure that you make sure that you have two hands on the ball. You don't spend it, try and get extra yards a lot of times when you're already in the grass with somebody, and if you do spend, you gotta practice keeping that

ball tight to the body. Now let it come away. But on the other side, guys like Cook has fumbled, Singletary has fumbled. So I think that you have to make sure that if you're the Jets, that you're trying to punch that ball out. Also that you're trying to put a hat on the ball. Right. I know that the Jets, you know, um use the hawk tackling where they take the head out, but at this point, this is a head tackling type of thing. When I say, hey,

you talk about putting the head across the body. That's how you secure the tackle, opposed to putting the head on the back side and making it more of an arm tackle. You know, I mean the hawk tackleing is great in theory, but it's it also means that, you know, the negative part of it is that you're putting your arm out there and trying to tackle somebody with an arm and the shoulder, opposed to being able to get the you know, head across on the football and make

it run through your body and your leg you know. Um, So it's one of those things where you gotta make the decision. You know that your your your body is in a great position to make a tackle. No reaching, no arm tackles. That's in football five on one right there from part Scott, because we saw a couple of examples of that in that game at Toilette Stadium where the Jets had a couple of mis tackles. Huge game in Buffalo this week, let's sign here. Have you started

your holiday shopping? Well? You know, the good thing is my daughter sent me a hyperlink list which takes all the thinking out, um, and all I have to do is hit the list, hit the link, purchase the items. UM takes a lot of the mystery out of what she gets, but rather she be happy. UM. Just what happens now we have kids in modern day you know, technology makes it UM user friendly UM for people that's not you know great and being able to go out and find an item of my daughter did it for me.

But I still have to find some surprises. So I've started. I got a couple of things off the list, but you know, Dad always got to find some unique stuff that they don't know to ask, so wish to ask. Yeah, well we will be expecting some more surprises for me along the way. That's part Scott. We'll see you all next week. Yeah,