A Conversation with Jets CB Michael Carter II (11/22)

it was tough. Like I was definitely upset because I feel like are you know, are was taken away like on defense and that was like more so upset me is like as I feel like as a defense, we wanted the opportunity to win the game too, just like you know, like obviously, like the our offense would have liked the opportunity to win the game, or or like the New England's special teams obviously won the game. So I feel that's what kind of upset me the most, is like we lost our opportunity to go and win

the game for our team. You know, football, you're supposed to move quickly but not being a rush. How do you guys try not to panic but also move with a sense of urgency. I understanding where you are in this season? Yeah, I feel like as far as like not panicking, we know who we are in in the style of football and that that we play, um. And how good we can be when we just fix those

little minute things UM and get on our details. Um. And so you know that's what we we harped on the day UM, in the meetings and watching the film UM. And everything is fixable UM. And so we know we gotta get done when we show up on Wednesday. UM. We just gotta be able to to to put it into motion and you know, be on our details and execute. How high of a standard do you guys have because when bart was playing, I'm having memories back in two

thousand nine, two thousand and ten where you're dominant. Over the course of sixty minutes, you had six sacks of Mac Jones first second consecutive game. Uh. One thing that Carl Lawson just said is that we can correct some things. We didn't play a perfect game. We gotta get some takeaways.

Can you talk about the standard that you guys are holding yourself to right now, Yeah, man, like Carl is right, like there are some things that you know, we left some plays out there, um inches in the game that we could have taken advantage of. We could have you know, put the game away ourselves on defense. Um And so that you know, that's that's the standard. We feel like we gotta get the ball, um and when we get the ball, we're out to score. Um And and that's

that's a standard. That's what we gotta do. Um And just like if we were if we were down, you know, our offense will pick us up. UM. We feel like it's our job to help them in any aspect that we can, and they always help us. Um. You know, if the team goes down there and drives on us, you know they they got on their answer right back like that, um And And that's the you know, that's how you know great teams are. I mean, you guys are a young team, and sometimes not everybody's gonna have

the same perspective of some of the veteran players. How do you keep this unit and group together understanding that you don't want the media, you don't want maybe things to bubble over in the locker room. How do you keep this unit together and just focus on farm of your own land and not have the frustration because it is frustrating to have that type of performers. No performers has ever perfect it. But when you're playing you hold a team to basically three points and you lose, that

has to be gut ritching. Yeah. I think it's just the belief we have in each other. UM. You know, we always preach it all about us, and it's always still gonna be about us and the everybody in the building because we're the ones who put in the time and the work, um to put out a good product on Sunday. And we believe in each other, UM, So we can have those conversations, uh with each other and the hard ones were you know, you gotta talk about some things, but it's because you know, we have faith

and we respect each other in that way, UM. And so you know there's no diversion or anything that's that's going on because you know, we have that belief in each other that you know, we can get the job done on any giving Sunday versus you know, any team, UM, and everybody's going to be out there and do their job to the best of their ability. How hard are

you guys making it? And opponents once they moved the ball past the fifty yard line, like it felt like there are times where we have bent a little bit yesterday and Bark can talk about this, But when you guys needed a play, you moved them back, so instead of hey, they're in the red zone, it's like they're kicking along field goal. Nick Folk went one of three yesterday.

So when you guys needed a play, when you needed momentum, I know you didn't get to take away, but he kept on moving them back where they weren't able to penetrate the ten yard line to five yard line and get into that zone. Yeah, and just there were some plays that you know, they turned into explosives. UM. And that kind of sustained some of those drives, UM, and and all those things like like I was saying, you know, fixable things, UM, just being in the right spots and

being detailed and in our approach. UM. But you know, if they don't score, you know they can't win. Uh So then but don't break, you know, give us an inch and we'll defended. That's a mentality, UM. And when it's trying to lock in, like you know, all right, they gotta play it's lock in right here, and you know, make sure we get off the field, we get the ball back to the offense and you know we keep

points off the board. You guys went from first place to last place and you guys still have above five hundred record. But how much pressure does that put on this week to make sure that you're able to get on the right start? Like, how do you approach this week? Intensity? Wratsing it up, attention to detail and understanding that it's levels to the months in football, the fact that you're

inn in the championship months. What is the mood like and what's the anticipation for practice and being able to practice the way that you're going to have to play to be able to get in the tournament. Um. I think that there's always since urgency when we guard it and we practice because we practice hard, um every day, UM, running to the football and whatever week, this is still running to the football. UM, you know, showing effort at practice and making sure you know, we're holding each other

accountable on that field. UM. And so it's always been like that. The standard doesn't change. UM, We're not important the game. This game is because it's the next game. UM. And so we plan to go out there and execute and win. UM. You know obviously that starts on Wednesday and starts it can start actually today and just getting those um little things that we can get correctly corrected today. UM, so we know what to take in the Wednesday and make sure we're straight on um. And so yeah, how

are you five guys working as the unit? You get new cornerbacks this year and Sauce Gardener and DJ Read and then LaMarcus Winner healthy and then obviously you bring in Jordan White had early on in the year. I know you guys were talking about communication. It seems like everybody's on the same page each and every week, and you guys expect to dominate. Yeah, And I think like it was a challenge at the beginning because you know,

you didn't really know each other. UM. Like I think out of the our secondary from last year, I'm like maybe the only one who's like out there. So like it took a while. We had to spend the time with each other and get to know each other and how each other thinks, How how this guy next to me processes information, how fast you can process information because somebody's motioning over and we got to make a checkout fast, Like I'll just do the simplest thing to help him out.

Um whoever that guy is. It's just stuff like that. Uh So, just just taking an extra time, you know, after they say we're done for the day, and just getting into film room each other and just going through that communication, going through how we see things, going through how we're gonna you know, this is how we're gonna do it. If if you have a a different way you want to do it, let's talk through it, like

all that stuff. Like we really I think put the time in to each other and gave it back to one another to be able to to be able to play at a high level. Do you think it's beneficial for all the guys that have been in the playoffs?

They kind of pulled you young guys together to explain because early on and may you may think that it's business as usual, but playoffs is a told you don't until you've been in it, you have no idea, and until you've been into in those games leading up to trying to secure a playoffs spot, it's a totally different level.

So have you got guys considered maybe getting into Duwayne Brown's getting you know, white Head, getting c J. Moseley to kind of explain to some of the young guys that may not be thinking about it because the next game isn't just the next game. It's a the end of the season and still having something to play for.

It's a totally different level than intensity, level of attention to detail, and everybody has to take their play to a totally different level and that has to be done and taking it, you know, to account when you practice.

Yeah yeah, um yeah, that makes sense. Um. And obviously I don't have any experience yet uh in that, but you know, I know I can go to the Wayne or go to Jordan's and ask them, you know what I need to do, what we need to do, and they can explain, um, you know how the steps we need to take to be able to to to play at a playoff level. Um. And and that's that those type of guys, you know, these good guys who can who are willing to reach back out reach back into

the youth and and put us along with them. Um. You know, we got those type of guys in the in the building who are willing to do that. What do you like most about playing the nickel position and also what's the most significant challenges that come along with playing inside? What I like most, I would say is just um, you know, I like the attackle. I like to be in the run fits and like be around

the action. Um. And so it's it's it's cool, like I enjoyed you know, games the most when I can when they allowed me to to you know, be a what they call a baby backer. Yeah, I enjoyed those games. Um. And then you know, just to the trust that everybody has in me to communicate and carry that communication you know when I'm even when I'm moving or when there's movement. UM. I enjoyed that a lot because I feel like I

can handle it. Um. And and so yeah, I guess there's some pressure that comes with that because if you're wrong, you know, some people be out of the their spots. But you know, I feel you know, I feel good that that everybody trust me to be able to do that. UM. And then you know challenges is obviously all the space. It's a lot of space, um. But you know it is what it is. You know, you got a man up in there. Um. And so you know I take your head on. Um, you know, I'm back down from

from any challenge. So, yeah, I saw you shooting gaps

last game a little bit playing cut back. But how much time do you actually maybe spend during nine O seven or run fits with the run with the linebackers to be able to maybe ask some tools to your tool belt as far as maybe being able to knife that in if you feel like it's a big gap there, you want to switch it up and you want to be able to scrape outside are you may be considering going over and and doing some Nino seven so you can learn some of the tools that nibaggers have to

be able to control your defensive alignment. When you feel like, hey, you know, we're in a big flex front and we got a lot of gaps here. I'm feeling like I want to scrape these guys or knife my d N or half my nose card. Yeah that's that. Yeah, that's actually, um, you know a really good idea. I know, uh, you know those linebackers, they showed me a lot of love. Um, just in the in the communication and when I'm coming, when they know I'm in the fit, Um, just making

sure I'm straight um on where I'm at. You know, if if things start moving pullers and and you know, all those things happened, they know where I was supposed to be, and make sure I know what I'm supposed to be Coach white Cotton. Um, you know when I'm in the run fits too, when we do those team

periods where we're just walking through those run fits. Um, he's making sure that, Okay, I know what the d defensive linement is supposed to be doing on this play, um, And so I know where my fits supposed to be. And then if he does something else, you know, I just fit off of him in that instance. But uh, you know they definitely, you know, give me a lot of a feedback and and and being when I'm in

those in those run fits. You were a rookie last year, How impressed are you by what Sauce is doing out here? Tank games into his NFL career, leads the National Football League before tempds man. That dude is special, Um, Like it's unreal, Like he's probably like a a whole a real deal, like good vibe to like the back end, and uh, everybody knows he's gonna handle his business. Um,

But he's also like cool and chill and can have fun. Um. And you know being that, you know he was taking in the draft where he was like super cool, approachable, like so you know, the utmost respect for for him as a person. And then just what he's doing in the league already, um is special. Um, and he's gonna be doing it for a long time. Like that dude is real. He's a real deal for sure. DJ reid Bart says on this podcast almost every week that he

thinks that he's playing at all pro level. Obviously came over from Seattle. What do you think about what he's doing on the outside because typically a guy with his body type, we'll be playing inside like yourself, but DJ

going outside and uh, he brings that dog in every Sunday. Yeah, Like like you said, he brings that dog and you could see it like like if y'all here are the speech before we come out for the pregame or when we're in the pregame, hurtel Um, that's a different DJ than you see like in the meeting room, and like that's that just like breathes life into you because you're like, dang, I need to match this dude, or I'm gonna get left.

Like in the same with Sauce because also get in there and speak to and like even as a rookie, he's not scared to speak and and and so me like on the more like laid back, chill person. But I feed off that. I feed off those guys and

and uh so I appreciate them. Like It's like as soon as DJ came in, like that was super exciting for me too, because like I was super happy to get somebody like him because you know, I had a vet that I could, like now to ask some questions and just get his experience on things and how he plays the game, and um, you know, it's just it's just been awesome having though seven games left. What's the goal as a defensive unit? Where are you trying to

take this thing? What's the goals? As you know you're past the midway point, is time and say, okay, this is what we are right now, this is what we want to be, and how do you guys get there? Yeah, I think the goal is the goal is to get more takeaways and to actually score with those takeaways. Um, you know, we had a lot of balls on the

ground that we haven't been able to get. Um, when we feel like now the time, like we gotta get those We gotta get those opportunities, those fumbles, those tip balls, UM, those sideline adjustments when we make them, we gotta be able to adjust and make the play. UM. And so the goal really is just to keep being the takeaways, UM, and just keep being keep dominating UM. You know, get back to the fundamentals and in the way we tackle.

UM and be because you know when it's gonna get colder. UM. So just be the best takeaway defense in the league and then be the best tackling defense in the league. UM. I mean we do, those two will dominate. I love what I'm hearing from him, because Bart, when you were in Baltimore, you guys weren't just looking to take the ball away, but you were looking to score. And that came You brought that attitude here with the Jets as well. So when Bart was in Baltimore, you gotta get the

ball to at Read, right, who who's after a takeaway? Now? Who's got no? No, no no what wo no no no no no no. We didn't just give it to Read. Yeah, but we know we we we actually practiced pitching the ball and we practice who gets who gets you. Whenever you get intercept, you you somebody has to block the initial intended receiver so he can't come from the back, and then you set up a perimeter that somebody has to get back, and you set up the fence like

punt return. But we actually practiced it. We actually have touchdowns where we've pitched it multiple times and we weren't afraid to pitch it um while we're running the back, but understanding that it's not where you let it go at, it's where he catches it, so you actually have to pitch it back, no doubt. But but that read was a dynamic returner. Bro Well a lot of times he

was the one who got the interception. But Chris McAlister and samari Roll was like, yo, I got sauce to you know what I mean, who do you think would be the best returner as far as you guys are concerned getting the ball in their hands. Pitch back to me, yeah, pitch back to me. Now you don't Now you don't want Quinn and talking about go block for me. You've done your job, big fella. It's okay. You know he

could move some people out of the way too. Well we saw was on face mask tyreek, but you know what I'm saying, he only he only went two more yards. It's all good. We want to send a message by opening smacking. Somebody will give it to Quinning. But if you want to get get them, get them six points, you gotta go ahead pitch to somebody with a little bit more RPMs on a on a on a speed. Yeah me, uh, Sauce really to hold back in you can picture to hold back and we'll get we'll get

busy with it. Hey, what do you think about this rookie class? You guys had to find rookie class in two thousand twenty one, and what do you think about what this group is doing specifically? Maybe you can talk about a pair of those and we talked about Sauce, but you're really getting good production from Jermaine Johnson and Michael Clemens. Michael Clemens keeps on popping off the screen. Like this class. It's not only talented, but it's deep.

You can talk about each of the guys selected. Yeah, they just came in with that young energy like like like sort of how we feel like we had to come into last year, like we don't care what happens before. Like they brought us here to to do something good and change the thing around, and and they came in with that same that same monset, that same energy, and

UM kind of just rejuvenated everybody. I feel like, UM, we guys saw us in the corner room, Uh, Garrett in the receiver room, Breeze, Jermaine mc even maxing and rugged like like all those guys that just came in and with the the present tense mindset and the future oriented type mindset like we're here in and now, Uh, this is what we can do. Now, this is where

we want to be. UM. And you know they've been excelling. Yeah, you can hear that passion out of Garrett Wilson in the locker room yesterday that how much this game means to him and the collective as far as the outcomes. Even at practice, like he's like going to compete, like when we have those competition periods, and like he wants to win like every rep and like when he like even when he does lose, like he's upset, like because like he feels like he can win every rep and

that's how it should be. UM, And he's like you can tell that he really loves the game and he wants to be his best, and I feel like that's how everybody is. I got some advice for you guys in defense. I want you to go get you an Adrian Wilson fat head or or Rod Woodson white head, um fat head, and I want everybody that's in the defensive backfield to stand next to it. And if you're not bigger than those guys, no more flippers. You gotta wrap up because it's getting it's getting cold out here.

You trying some of these fat boys with it with them flippers, you actually bounce them into where they're going. So unless you like Adrian Wilson's size with six to tw at safety, no more flippers, you gotta go ahead

and wrap it up. Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's part of, you know, kind of what we talked about today too, just tackling um and kind of you know, as it's getting colder, like I was talking about earlier, has got to be a point of emphasis um because these backs are good and so we gotta be able to get him on the ground. All right, go ahead, No, no, I say, you've got a lot of guys that have not played this late in the season. Um, you know, especially like the young guys that you guys depend on

so much. What if ice are you giving the guys that are rookies this year about their rookie wall and making sure, Hey, we gotta get our body fresh and we gotta take care of our body. Because I remember when I was a young guy, like I used to sit in a hot tub. I never did the treatment that I needed to and all the old guys look at me like I was crazy because I would never

do all the little things. What are you telling these guys that may because of college season's gonna end this this week, so that's about what their bodies are used to going. But you guys still have a regular season, hopefully a postseason, and really it's about of attrition. Who can stay healthier longer hang out the hot top? Yeah yeah, I obvious say just you know, investing investing yourself, um, because you have to like embodies your money, um, and

we need everybody. Uh, so you got to invest in yourself invested tom Uh you know, get up a little bit earlier if you have to stay a little bit later. Um, but but get it in because you know you'll you'll feel a lot better on Sunday, you know, especially when it's colder and it's later. You know, get a little tighter and all that stuff. But you know you'll feel a lot better and and and everybody else will be moving a little bit slower than you are. So just

investing yourself. What's your plans for Thanksgiving? You'll be here for a little bit. Yeah, I'm gonna be here. Uh my FAM's coming up Friday, I think, or so something like that, so you might eat a little eat a little bit. What to man when I'm at home, I gotta give me a little fried turkey. Uh yeah, you gotta fried to turkey. Man. I can't do nothing else ever since I started doing that. Um, you know the mac and cheese. Uh Kyla Green's corn bread sweet potato

cast role. Yeah. So basically what you're saying, weigh in for you on Friday when I wig in, I will still be the same way. Is caling the cast Because of the holiday, You're gonna be game something. Yeah, Hey, thanks for joining us today. I appreciate you. Enjoy your week with your family. Let's see if you guys can start a winning streak here Souday against Chicago. Oh, Yeah, most definitely. Wind Mett is bringing the excitement of Wind

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Bet together when Bet Eric Allen Bart Scott, I'm glad we had Michael Carter on the pod part because I think he's one of the most underrated players on this roster. We always whenever you don't hear his name, and you know, you know I talked about it. That's a good thing, right And when they know your name, they're they're paying attention and everybody know who you are is because you're giving up plays, you know, because we don't talk about that means he's been doing a job at a high

level and that's a tough spot too. And what he does, he brings an element of physicality that you don't always see from the nickel position. Reminds me a lot of Donald Strickland right when healthy. He was one of those guys that brought a lot of bit tangibles to our defense. He was strong and he was fearless within the box.

But he was a guy that had a knack because it's so hard you have to play basic in the phone booth where you don't have the leverage that you have by being able to use the sideline if you're

outside cornerback when you're inside. It's two way goals either way they want because they're off the ball and they're usually coming in motions, so you have to kind of respect the cushion because you have to read and react a lot more than kind of being a cornerback who can press and make somebody, you know, go outside and you get your hands on early. Do you like where his head's at. Here's a kid who sixty minutes. They he's always been mature. Right when we talked to him

last share, he's maturing. Wife, You be honest. Years. He's a guy that has an old soul and that's perfect for that position because you have to really have a lot of experience and a lot of patients to be in there. And that's all those the virtues and traits of an older gentleman. If you're Robert Sala, how are you addressed in the team early this week? Is you try to put New England behind you, correct the mistakes and then look it had in to Chicago because you

do have seven games remaining. The external world is going to write the Jets off again, but you're still right there in the mix. I don't think anybody's writing the Jets all, but I think you have to address the elephant in the room, everything that's bothering the team. You gotta have an air in it out session because what you don't want is you want you don't want to divide the units, right, because that's what the media, that's what a lot of people want to do because some

of the postgame comments. So you're gonna have to make sure that you unify each other. But you have to address it and say we've covered that, and you have to actually cover it. If somebody has something to say, you have to allow them the opportunity to be able to say that because you don't want anybody harboring any feelings or any emotions that can be detrimental to the chemistry of the team. But you have to address it because if you don't, then people you know you will

address it and units will address it by themselves. You don't want that. You want an environment where you can monitor the air and out session. You know, all football teams are big families, and all families need therapy. So that's what you think what that arena is all about. Because it's gonna be highs and lows, but as those who can be able to navigate through the lows that be able to have the chance of having the most successful season. Because it's about standing together and getting answers,

not pointing fingers. What do you see from this matchup? The Bears have lost four consecutive games, but yeah, you've said it all along. They've been in it every week. The last three games. I'm losing about like a point and they're dangerous, right. They finally adopted So everything that you saw, you're going to see at a higher level than what you saw week one against the Baltimore Ravens because the Ravens were at the beginning of the season.

They've been playing at a high level using this you know, Lamar Jackson style offense that really benefits and favors the skill set of fields. So you're gonna have to make sure that you really study the film. But they're gonna force you to play a level on the leven and it's tough when you have a mobile quarterback because you almost have to have two spies on them. Because this guy in five games where had over five yards rushing, something that had never been done from that position, including

Michael Vick and Lamar Jackson. That tells you the talent that he had. And he was not known for running the football when he was in college. He was known for being able to throw from the pocket. So this is something the element that he's showing us. This isn't a running quarterback that's continuing to run. This is a thrown quarterback that has learned how to run. No. On Sunday, gots Atlanta. He got banged up a little bit. It

was the non throwing shoulder, the left shoulder. Will have to find out where he is as the week progresses. With that being said, what do you think of Fields as a prospect? Now here a couple of years in the National Football League where to your point, looks like he's just continuing to ascend and Chicago is gonna gradually get some more pieces around him as they move forward. Yeah, a hundred million dollars in salary cap space. Um, new

culture resume. Um, they've actually taking a step back because they started over. Got rid of a lot of good players, got rid of Khalil Mack, got rid of ray Kwon Smith, got rid of Robert Quinn. But that that's going to free up a lot of salary cap space for them in the future to build around his young talent player. And he's making an argument to be the best quarterback selected in that draft. I mean I think he's really figuring it out and they found the offense that suits him.

You know, I think the league should really play coach attention and be put on high alert once they're able to get better players around him and be able to spend some of that hundred million dollars in salary cap spaces they are reportedly gonna have next year, and also the draft capital that they've able to grab from the Ravens and other trades that they've made, plus their own. Well, it's a defensive game plan against the guy. Like fields, you have to make sure that you flush them two

waves where you know he's gonna run. You want him to be able to run, and flush him to his left side because that means he has to stow across his body. Quarterback won't be as accurate. Uh if you if you really scrambles to his right, he still can throw the ball on the run. Is gonna put defenders

in tough positions. You want to rarely ever play cover one because if everybody backs his turn and he breaks the first wave of defense, which the defensive line, he can put your your your defensive backs, and your defensive players in a very very tough position. And trying to tackle this guy in space. He's strong, he's fast, he's elusive, and he's um, he's motivated. You think this is a game where we're gonna see a lot of Michael Carter

and James Robinson, the bearers. Statistically, they're giving up about a hundred fifty yards a game on the ground, and you know, the Jets right now, as they try to establish an offensive identity, will probably look to lean to the run. I imagine. I mean, no, Ray cron Smith, that guy was, you know, one of the best in the game with the Baltimore um. You want to try and exploit that, and you have to be consistent with it. I thought, you know, maybe they got away from the

run a little bit. It's you gotta inspection this weather. It's about wearing guys down. I think guys like James, James Robinson and Ty Johnson to these big backs have to get in a rhythment of flow and you got allow of them to dish out some punishment to these defenders early in the game so that when you get to the third and fourth quarter, much like when you see with Derrick Henry every week, those guys that were very bold to make tackles before, aren't as enthusiastics to

step up in the third and fourth quarter. With where the Jets are current a FC landscape, everybody in the FC East now is at least two games north of five hundred uh and on the horizon after this game, bart you're going to Minnesota and then Buffalo. How big of a game is this for this team? Some months win right, because you didn't take care of business the week before, you find yourself in last place, even though

you do have a very good red her. You know you have to try and get to ten and you have to start trying to get to tend right now. And you know Chicago will help you, but they won't help you as much as winning against AFC opponents, which at this point you have no margin for era because other teams are starting to trend in in a in a good direction as well. You know, you look at teams like Cincinnati, who's starting to figure it out, and

you know they won the head to head. So now when you don't take care of business and win the division, now you're worrying about scenarios and you don't want to be playing that game when it gets to to selection Sunday, so to speak, when you have to worry about did you win enough a f C games because tiebreakers and head to heads, you know, you don't want to get into that geometry. Happy Thanksgiving to you in your family. Uh, we will be watching on Thursday. The Buffalo bill is

going to your hometown facing the Detroit Lines. Then you got a night game, an interesting one that the Jets fans will be watching because the Patriots are playing at the Minnesota Vikings. What's your favorite Thanksgiving tradition or food? Fabruite? Food is on my mother's banana putting homemade about not none of that jello putting stuff, you know what I'm saying. That's made from flour and vanilla abstracts from scratch homemade.

What about tradition? Tradition? We used to do the old school Turkey Bowl where we used to go out and when I was younger, it was always a lot of snow. Uh. So we will go out there and play a football game before the football games come on because the Lions were always playing on Sunday. It is written in a contract with the NFL. It is we we watching what happens in the Motor City on Thursday, Happy Thanksgiving. We will see you all next week.