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Steve Carell & Billie Eilish + Mailbag Episode!

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As a surprise for the one and only Steve Carell, Brian invited pop icon and Office superfan Billie Eilish onto the podcast after her epic Grammy win in 2020 to talk about why The Office is her “strange addiction” and what she’s learned from the show. Plus, Brian opens the floor to fans in this special Mailbag episode: he answers all your questions, from comparing the cast with their characters to Brian’s favorite Kevin scenes to the iconic Stress Relief cold open.

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and promised that he could take the mob down. I've spent the past year trying to figure out why he flipped and what he was really after. Listen to deep Cover on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Billie Eilish is calling in right now. If you want to say hello, she really is. Yeah, yeah, well hello everybody. Welcome to a special and extra special episode of the Office Deep Dive. I am your host, Brian Baumgartner. Now today I'm gonna need you to hold

onto your pants, folks. Is that a phrase? Because I have got a very special surprise for you, Actually, not one. I have two surprises. So let's start with the one that involves my good friend Steve Carrell, whom I don't know. Some of you may know as Michael Scott on the Office. Just kidding, I know you know who Steve is Um Well, yesterday was his birthday. Happy birthday to you, Steve, and we all know he is the man who deserves all

of the presence in the world. Well, I gave him my gift last year, which was to surprise him with one of the biggest musicians on the planet who also happens to be one of the biggest Office fans on the planet. He got to meet Billy freaking Eilish for the first time over FaceTime, and let me tell you it was magical. Okay, that week she had just taken home five Grammy Awards, one of which I still believe rightly belongs to us. And I'll take that any time, Billy,

thank you very much. But in honor of Steve's birthday, I'm going to share with you all of you listeners my gift to him. This uh a phone call with Billie Eilish. After that, I'm going to be answering some of the questions that you have been asking me on social media, filling in the gaps and getting to know all of you just a little bit better along the way.

But before we get to that, before we get to you, please give a very warm welcome to well the King of the Office, Steve Correll and the Voice of a Generation Billie Eilish Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cooking at every month left over from the nabb before. Oh my good day. First of all, congratulations, Oh my god, thank you insane. This is crazy. How are you guys? How are you? I'm great? I am amazing. Congratulations Steve and I were

just talking actually, and you one five grammys. Um. We feel like our contribution on the album was the most significant, so you can if you can send one over, we'll split it. That'll be fine. I don't need all of them. You can have one. I just got us a Grammy. It's so nice to like, actually say hi. I feel like we've sort of sort of cross pats, but not really. I know. It's so nice. Oh my god, it's so crazy to hear your actual voice and look at your face.

I don't know, this is crazy. It's crazy. Wow. This is my mom. By the way, come here, mom, Hi? Hi? How are you your You're friends with Amy Ryan? Yeah? We love Ale. She's the best. She might be my favorite character on the Office. It's pretty awesome that billy, watch your show? You know all the time the phone has the Office on next to everything she's doing day and night. Why did you decide? Like, is it your strange addiction? Is that is the Office your strange addiction?

Definitely my strange addiction. That's why I had to use that song. That's why I had to use it. Come on, I had to use your voices because you know, I was telling the truth was a fact. She knows he shows so well that she can just listen to it, you know, because she knows everything that's coming up. And that's true. Sorry, I don't need to embarrass you. Really, are you embarrassing? Um? Yep, a little bit, Billy? Who who is your favorite character on the Office? That's a trap? Um, listen,

just say Dwight and get it over. Why is everyone's favorite? Honestly? I think it's Michael. That's fair. Well, that's fair. The only terrible taste. He only did seven seasons. But that's fine, that's fine. This is crazy. I don't know if you guys understand how dope this is to me. Thank you guys for talking to me. This is like, well, that's pretty it's a very, very very big deal that you get to do this. I just I'm saying, yeah, I have to tell you, Billy, my I have a four

year old? Have I have a four year old? Yes? I started late. It's a long story. We'll talk about it later. But she dances around and demands to hear Billie Eilish. I don't know how she ever even heard your songs, um, but she uh is such a fan, which makes me a humongous fan of yours. So thank you, thank you so cool. Yeah, when did you what is I have to ask you a couple of questions? When

did you start watching The Office? So? I started watching at twelve and I've seen it fourteen times now all the way through, which is really crazy and honestly, every single like because I've been getting older obviously watching it. Every time I watch it, I understand something new because I started at twelve, and I honestly, if you ask my parents, most of the things that it makes me sound so stupid. But the most of the things that I know are because of the Office. No, no, no,

it's funked up, it's worked up. What can I say? What can I say? We've created damn it. But like like my parents, will reference things that I only understand because of the Office. They'll sing songs that I'll sing along to because of the Office that I don't even Oh, it's really um. There are some words that there are literally words Steve that you said in the show that I thought were real words, but they were faith if they were you not saying them correctly because of the character.

And it was funny that they did that. But I didn't actually know the real word. So I know, I know when you're thinking thinking flick, yeah, definitely that one. No, I thought she meant, like what what is indubitably? Yes, yes, that's exactly right. Oh that's amazing. So you so you start and you watch it fourteen times through? Yeah, have you started the fifteenth time yet? I have not. I had to. I had to take a break so that

it's like it's all fresh, you know what I mean? No, Because if I don't watch it for a period of time, then I do watch it, then I'm like, oh, you know, it's like a yeah, I gotta like miss it and then go back to you might want to take like ten or twelve years, so it's really fresh. Uh. I will tell you I saw you um the video that was going around that you did with rain, Um, and he was he was. He was quizzing her on on

quotes and Rain I'm not joking. He says like two words and you go, Kevin, And I was like what, I don't even know what? How did she even know what that was? It was unbelievable. I have not actually seen all the episodes of the Office, so you you have to be beat like my fourteen. Here's the thing he did. He once he left, he was like, screw those guys, I'm out of here. And he did. I understand, Yeah, he didn't. Hey wait a second, you know, I know I was making fun of you and then somehow I

ended up the butt of a joke. It's just typical. Actually, Um, do your friends watch you? Yeah? My best friends always like the same level of obsessed with it as I am. What what is it that you love about it? I don't know. I feel like it's um, it's like not stressful. I feel like so many shows you really have to pay attention very closely to understand. And I don't know if it's because I've seen it so many times that I already like what my mom was saying about it

just playing, I'll set my phone. I'll like literally set my phone down, and I was crazy. I watched it only on my phone, like my tiny little phone. I don't ever want it on a TV or anything. My little phone, and I put it on like a table and then I like clean my room or I like leave the room, or I'm like in the shower or something. You're listening to it, I think it the best way to do it is put it on and then leave

the room. But no, it's not. I'm listening though. But it's because I've seen it so many times that I can come like fully envision exactly what the scene is because I know because I've seen it so many times, and my brain is like, oh yeah, I know what's going on. Like even if I'm on a plane and I see like three rows ahead of me somebody watching the office, I can tell what scene it is and what episode is from from like what they're wearing, and like the body language is it, Like does it give

you comfort? Like is it comfortable to you? It totally is. It makes me feel like, I don't know, it's like a safe space. I think it takes me away from the reality of my life, which is must be pretty crazy right now is pretty crazy, I'm sure you guys know. Yeah. Um, thank you so much for talking to us. Thank you for talking to me. We really appreciate it. Steve, do you want to say anything, No, it's just so nice

to actually talk to you. And uh, congratulations, Thank you guys. Hi, thanks Hi, Billy bye bye bye wow, just wow, thank you both for coming on and Steve, Happy birthday, my friend. I'm I'm still a little concerned that Billy learned most of what she knows from the office, but what can you do? Uh, thank you and happy birthday. All right. The time has come to answer some questions from you mailbag. That's right now. I'm gonna get to as many questions as I possibly can. But if I don't get to yours,

never fear. We're gonna be doing more episodes like this, So subscribe and comment on Apple Podcasts or write me on Instagram and Twitter, because well we will be watching. All right. Let's dive in. And if I say somebody's name wrong today, I'm sorry. I love you just the same. Plus you know who you are? Am I right? All right? So on that note, are very first question, well maybe less of a question than an ego boost. A listener wrote in to say super excited about the podcast, Kevin

was my favorite character on the Office. By the way, here's the ultimate compliment a comedian can receive. You made me laugh so hard that I actually developed a nosebleed. The ice machine scene in the wedding episode was hilarious. Thank you, well, thank you. I appreciate. I have been told by many people over the years that they cannot use public ice at a hotel slash motel because well, they're afraid my feet was in it. Loop a Pause writes, can you one of these days on the podcast talk

about the opening scene of Stress Reliase? This is the episode where Dwight starts the fire drill. It is one of the funniest episodes slash openings, and I think we'd all love to hear how you guys felt filming that. So uh. Stress Relief was the episode that aired after the Super Bowl. If you have found the show on Netflix, you wouldn't know that. Um I would say it is not only one of my favorite openings of a show,

it's one of my personal favorite episodes. I think part of that has to do with the fact that it did air right after the Super Bowl, and well I'm a big football fan. Um. There were two openings to the show that we had the most rehearsal. It was the most almost like doing theater. There was the lip dub open, which was all one take so it had to be done one take the camera moving around the office,

and also the opening of stress Relief. Mean, there were so many elements that happened in shooting that we had cat wranglers. We had two different sets of broken glass even at the vending machine and Michael with the exterior window. We had copiers smashing into doors and things breaking or having the potential to break. It was so much fun filming that scene culminating with Stanley of course, UM having

a heart attack. So thank you for your question, but yes, for me personally, I would say my favorite cold open on the show Roth san Islam rights, Sir. I'm a really big fan from Bangladesh, really love your podcast. Well, I am so happy that we have listeners in Bangladesh. Thank you, and I'm I'm hearing we have lots of UM listeners in India and across Europe. Thank you all

wherever you're listening. Thank you so much. For listening. Walter Burne rights Kevin Malone had a little black and gold helmet on his desk with an M on the side of it. What football team does that belong to? I have no idea, I really don't. I never found out it was there the whole time, and in fact, it might have been borrowed from NBC by yours truly when the office ended. And I guess that makes me really a terrible actor, like not doing character study. I don't.

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playing hide and Seek on the Office. I said Angela, of course, because well, because she's so tiny. Four Fry responded by saying false, Creed would win at hide and seek. Well, he has the most experience as a character hiding from people without being found. I think he hid in the office for I don't know, close to twenty years. So four Fry, maybe you're right. Maybe it is Creed Bratton move fass a nine four rights. Thanks for the thoughtful

interviews and never ending nostalgia. Hearing you talk about the web series reminded me of a DVD extra Kevin's Cooking Show comedic gold I did a Kevin's Cooking Show Part two inspired by yours for my freshman speech class and accidentally spit on stage. Who spit slash sprayed the most during takes any memorable saliva stories? That is a great, yet disturbing question, I believe. By the way, the DVD extra was called Kevin Cook's Stuff in the Office, which

is just slightly weirder than Kevin's Cooking Show. We've discussed before, Mindy Kaling was the one who broke the most on set. I think there's no disputing that. In terms of spit slash spraying, jeez, I don't know. I will say as an actor, and particularly in film and television, you know, when you're on stage in theater, I think it's it's more expected. You're you're working your mouth for your heart

and and stuff comes out of it. It is always incredibly awkward because in film and television you're usually speaking face to face and sometimes very very close depending on where the cameras and if something happens and something leaves your mouth that should not leave your mouth onto another person, and the other person can't respond to you because they're in the middle of a scene and they don't want to ruin it. So everyone just acts as though that

doesn't happen. Well, it's it's never fun for either for either party. But maybe it's because of his experience in theater and his excellent elocution and enunciation. I would say Rain Wilson, and I'm just going to leave it at that, and if I'm wrong, sorry, Rain JP's dad rights on Apple Podcasts question for future episode, you guys all worked

really long hours, cast and crew alike. When someone kept breaking forcing a bunch of reshoots, did anyone ever get angry or upset about all of the extra time or money that was being wasted? You know, it's part of it, I think in a comedy, I mean, you're trying to keep it right on the edge, and I think that there's an energy that happens during scenes um where you're attempting in a way. I always said I thought Steve

was trying to make everyone laugh. I think that's part of the energy that he brought, where he would improvise something or say something in a different way, or give someone a different kind of look because he was trying to keep them right on the edge of laughing. So I think that a lot of it is expected. There were times where, like the first a d would be like, you guys, get it together, Like it becomes a teacher

slash student interaction. At some times. Yeah, I mean there's a certain point where it's it's just it's not fun for anybody, and it's certainly not fun for the person laughing either, and you feel really really bad. I don't remember anyone specifically getting angry except the first a d yeah or maybe a line producer who knew we were about to go into overtime and they were not happy about that. Unfortunately, there are times where there's just nothing

that you can do. So sorry, Canci Bornac and Randy Cordray, sorry for the money that well some of us cost you. Diane Blue asks, Hi, Brian, that's not a question. Love your podcast. Thank you. I am such a huge fan. I thought your character was so lovable. You were one of my favorites, you and Phyllis. Speaking of Phyllis, why did she, Oscar, Angela and Creed keep their real names on the show? I always wanted to know. Thanks well, Diane.

That's been talked about a little bit. In this Greg Daniels describes it as something to the effect of, you know that he ran out of creative energy on the character during casting. What happened was there were a number of characters who came. They were based on characters from the English version of the Office. So Jim and Pam and Dwight and Michael and Kevin and Stanley, those are the ones that jumped to mind, and so our names

were adapted. Keith in the British became Kevin. But they always knew they meaning Greg Daniels and the producers and director on the office, that they wanted our ensemble to be larger, and so they brought in other actors to fill out the ensemble that offered different personalities and voices. And at that point Greg thought, well, let's just call

them who they are. However, Creed Bratton is the only person whose first and last name is the same, and um, well, let's just say there there might be a reason for that. Ricky Chew asks via Twitter, that was wonderful, Brian, meaning the Phillis episode. To me, Phillis exemplifies one of the big themes of the show, beauty in ordinary things. You were all underdogs for getting on the show and keeping it on the air, but she was unlikeliest of unlikely underdogs.

Her story just warms my heart. Ricky, I could not agree with you more. I don't. I've never heard another story like it that a casting associate gets cast onto a show and ends up being a series regular for ten years, nine seasons. I don't think that's ever happened before.

There are a lot of instances of writers who get a role here and there, but Ken koppas Greg Daniels deciding that Phillis Smith the casting associate needed to be on this show is that it's a truly unique story and and part of the story she tells us about going home when we started shooting and reading books on improv because she didn't want to feel behind. As a testament to one her work and dedication and well, the

show certainly would not be the same without her. Another question about the Phillis episode, Jeffrey Johnson asks, when are you going to blow everyone's minds and tell them who sings the podcasts intro song. I mean, I feel like I have maybe, Jeffrey, you don't listen to the credits at the end of the pie. I think you just revealed to me you don't. Creed Bratton, the one and only Creed Bratton, wrote the song Bubble and Squeak, and he graciously allowed us to use it as our podcast

theme song. So once again, thank you Creed, and to you j J. Listen to the credits because there are a lot of people who put in so much work on this show and I want them all to be recognized, not not the least of which Creed Breton. Michelle Cochrane writes, who if you told me the Creed episode would be the one to make me cry? Also, Neil Graham writes, I was sledgehammering my crappy old driveway, tears pouring down my face about Creed Bratton. Let me tell you, Michelle

and Neil, You're not the only ones I can't. There is just I know, I said it. There's just something about that guy. And his story is incredible as well, that he sought out Ken Koppas who he had worked with before, and put together tapes of himself to try to get on our show. And you know, is one of the most beloved characters on our show now. And I had seen him the night before that that's the crazy when he came into the studio for for me

to talk to him. I had seen him at his benefit concert the night before, and I had seen him play uh the song from the finale. When he came into the studio and started on his guitar, just me and him in that room, Yeah, yeah, there were tears. There were tears, for sure. Karen Pollen asks, I adore your show. You're so relaxed and thorough well. I'm glad it feels that way. Did you ever do radio in college or your earlier days. No, not really, I didn't.

I've talked about radio before. I'll tell you one of my first though audio jobs. And this is only going to resonate for people who are um, well, I guess older. Before the internets were a big thing. When you were trying to find out a movie and you didn't have a paper and you wanted to find out what movies were playing, you would call a line that that was

the movie line. Was called the movie line, I think, and it would be like, hello, here are the movies listed for a mc galeria theater and then it would literally be like the quiet place to four pm, seven pm, tw pm, and nine. Someone had to read those like once a week for all of the stories. I did do that for a little while. I was I was the movie line guy for my local area. But that was it. Um But I will tell you I love it. I love talking to people. I love just having conversations

with people. And the fact that on this show I'm able to do it with some old friends, well it makes it even more special. Odd Carrick asks, as a practicing therapist, I am forever grateful to the office for being there for me as a way to decompress and to deal with my own issues. It has been a beacon in times of my darkness. Thank you one, God bless you and uh and I hope you're okay. But to you know, I've heard this so much that people

use the show well. As Billy Eilish talked about as a comfort in a what can be a crazy world for for all people, it has served as a comfort for her. So thank you for saying so. Thank you for watching the show, and know that I and others on the show appreciate comments like that more than you know. All Right, Jonathan Jaynes asks, we need you to do a full version of you Were Meant for Me by

Jewel like you did at Phillis's wedding. No, no, you were not going to hear a fully released version of You Were Meant for Me by Jewel, Sorry, Jonathan J. J uh from the Paul Lieberstein episode. Jaffathan writes on Apple Podcasts, Toby, I love this podcast so much. I'm really enjoying the in depth and thoughtful interviews. I do need to ask, is it the case that everybody hates the character Toby? I've always felt great sympathy for him. I mean, I guess you'd have to ask other fans.

I mean I would I think most of the characters on the Office hated Toby, or at least hr I think it's an HR thing. I'm sorry to all you HR reps out there, but I would say in terms of fans, or at least for me, I just love that Michael hates him so much. So there's a love for him because Michael hates him. I don't know if that makes sense, but I love I love that, I love and that Steve just came up with it. I love it. Jessica Worcestershire asks who is least like their

character in real life besides Angela Kenzie. My guest is maybe Oscar Oscar No. I mean, I think it's me. To be clear, I guess I don't. I guess that's for other people to say. But if I were saying, I would say me, I am less like my my real life character, except well, maybe I like to gamble a little one, and I I can't shoot the rock. What girls in the full wrist trees? Sure no one else.

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own funeral. Yeah, that does sound good. You can find this new podcast, Ridiculous Crime all over the place, the I Heart Radio app, the Apple podcast Sir, wherever you get your podcast. I don't know how you live. Ridiculous Crime, and patent all back rights. I would love to hear people from the office talk about their memories of Mark York, who played Billy Merchant, the disabled building manager who died this past weekend. He portrayed a memorable character. Thank you

and Patton all back. Mark was great, Mark was great, and Steve slash Michael's interaction with Billy Merchant were very memorable. It was a tragedy that he died, and and I don't know if if you, I can't specifically reference where, but a lot of people came out and did express their condolences for him, for his family. Thank you for bringing it up, because Mark York should be recognized for the tremendous work that he did and it is a

great loss, all right. In the episode with Jenna Fisher, it's possible that she and I may have briefly mentioned an idea that Steve had for an office reunion. So Daniel Kelly says, how do you let her drop that info about Steve's idea and bury it like, oh yeah, I've heard Steve's idea, like the world knows what you speak and brushed aside like the crumbs of a cookie. Um. Look, look, first of all, it's Steve's idea. If Steve wants to talk about his idea that isn't a reality at this moment,

then Steve can't. Let's just say that the idea does happen. What would you want to know wouldn't you want to be surprised? And if you don't want to be surprised, I can tell you this. NBC wants you to be surprised. So neither Jenna nor myself is going to reveal Steve's idea. I'm very sorry, but the point was there is an idea and it's really good. Sean h M talks about

wanting well very specific new episode. Dude, we're loving the podcast, but you know what, we also want an episode where we talked to Brian and get to know everything about Kevin. We can't wait to hear you tell us everything about your character. You know that is an idea, Sean. It has been talked about a little, but not for a while, so who knows. But who would talk to me? Or would I have to talk to myself? And would that be a disaster? I don't know. Thank you for the input.

It is just it has been discussed, so we'll see. You can take total credit if we end up doing that. Drew Papa, I'm sure that's wrong. Rights. This podcast brings so much joy to my work commute. You're the man at B B bomb Gardner. You're damn right. I am, Drew and because you said that I'm really sorry that

I butchered your name, which I definitely did. Um. So, Steve and I talked about the director sandwich, which is when a director compliments an actor, then tells them what they're doing terribly wrong, and then gives them another compliment to soften the blow. So Michael George writes, I had to laugh when you were talking about the director sandwich because I'm a teacher and we do it too. Usually in emails to kids parents, we call it a shit sandwich. Well,

I'm glad to know they do it other places. Nothing made me laugh harder maybe throughout this entire podcast recording experience than Steve talking about the director sandwich, because it's so true. And now I'm gonna need to go and look back at emails from teachers about my kids and see if I can find a ship sandwich there. And if there is, well, it probably means my kid did something wrong, Reverend B. B. Which is not me to

be very clear. Here's my question, because I'm curious, was it always the intent to do both podcasts or was it just, Hey, we have all of this useful stuff left, let's do it. Great question, Reverend B. B Uh. It

was always my intention, Yes, from the very beginning. The first person we interviewed was Rain Wilson, and I had even brought it up before then, like I think we're gonna want I think we're gonna get more material than we want because an oral history of the office was, um, my math is bad, but let's say eight to han hours, uh,

something like that. And I sat down our very first interview with Rain Wilson, and we sat down for over two hours, and immediately was like, well, we can't use all of that, and he said so many amazing things. So yes, it was always our intention to to release more of the full conversations because we knew we had way more or we were going to get way more than what we needed for an oral history of the office. But thank you for the question, Joe Bangles writes to

me on Twitter. Random question, but do you have a favorite cheese? Chatter from Wisconsin? Going to eleven writes to me regarding the Steve Correll episode. I love this episode. My wife has a theory on why young people love the office. It helps them feel less intimidated about being working adults. Just because you are a professional doesn't mean you have it all figured out. They recognize personalities from school in the show. I think, I think, I think

you're onto something, going to eleven. I think you're going to eleven, or you're going to a hundred or whatever the biggest number would be. That's very interesting. Yeah, I had not specifically thought about being less intimidated seeing people you know, who work in an office later on, not not kind of having it all together and figured out. But that's I think that's a very very interesting theory.

And yes, I do think recognizing personalities from their other classmates and the structure of a class versus the office was so similar. Like an unreasonable teacher who makes you do unreasonable things, very similar from Michael Scott making his office workers do unreasonable things. Laura be harsh Field Serbic Rights. I will say, my eleven year old son knows every episode and what season, finds, all the mistakes and little

extras I have missed. I asked him why he likes it, and it's because the characters talk about real life, and he thinks it's real. He knows it's not really a documentary, but it's what he thinks being adult and working is like, which shows how great. The show was done well, Laura. All I can tell you is it is indeed what we were going for the reality, uh, this sort of ultra reality of not just making a documentary or how a documentary was shot, but in terms of the behaviors

and interactions of the characters. So thank him for watching and for being so interested, and thank you for clearly raising a great son and fan of the show. Kristen sheehy right, I'm loving the podcast currently going through chemo and the office and your podcast has provided me with so much joy during this difficult process. God bless you, Kristen. I hope you all get better soon, and thank you

for listening and for watching. And again, I'm I'm so glad that us crazy band of nutheads have given some relief to what you are going through. Pam Jill from the Randall iron Horn episode writes, what does a key grip slash grip do? Well? They grip it and a key grip I mean clearly grips the key. I think BC Jim Dad writes, Brian, did you just hear Aaron Rodgers in the match? Tell Charles Barkley if you just

beat Brian Baumgartner in Tahoe. He'll be happy. Yes, I did hear that, and I attempted after being sent the clip of it from Tahoe, where I was getting ready to play, where he wasn't. I did attempt to communicate because I felt like I was brought up on air I should have a chance to respond. So I attempted to contact Charles Barkley and Aaron Rodgers and well not really T and T because I didn't know how to get ahold of anybody there. But I tried to be

able to respond. They ignored my phone calls. So nothing unusual about any of that. Robert McCarthy forty two writes, I'd love to know some storylines that just missed making it into the office. There must have been a bunch of great ones. PS love the podcast. Thank you, Robert um The one that springs to mind. I know we have talked about, or we're about to talk about on an episode Pet Day. Pet Day was It's actually, to my knowledge, the only written script that we never did.

It was a fully written script, and I think it just kind of kept kept getting pushed and wasn't done. There may have been some animal activists that would not have been happy about that episode. I don't specifically remember the content, but pet Day was the title, and there is a written episode of the office that I read at some point very early on that has never ever been produced. Veggie the memur writes, just a question, what is your favorite scene you've ever played as Kevin Malone?

By the way, you're my favorite actor person in the series. Well, Veggie, you're amazingly smart. Number one. Uh to my favorite scene ever? I mean, I guess I'm supposed to say the chili scene. I guess that's supposed to be my answer, So I can say that, or I can answers differently. The scene with Amy Ryan at the vending machine where she is

counting money into my hands. Um, that's the one that I remember being for me the most difficult to not laugh because of her sincerity and sweetness and how it was written, her performance, all of it. Um. I remember that scene. And then now that I'm thinking even more, maybe the basketball one. I mean, I made thirteen in a row on prime Time, and who's done that? Not? Not many people ever have done Network prime Time made thirteen in a row from free throw line extended, So

that's a possibility as well. Nick Hamby on Apple Podcasts Rights great podcast, Love the Podcast. I've watched The Office forty four times through during my wife's pregnancy. We watched it so much that the first song that my son reacted to was the intro to the Office. Love the show and pod great work. Well, Nick, you might win. I don't know, forty four times is a lot of times.

I don't know that I could count that high. I will tell you a funny story Billie Eilish, who we talked to, who told us at the time that we talked she had watched at fourteen times through it. There is some discussion she has watched it at least one more time since, but fourteen times through. And I remember writing about that on social media, and I can't tell you the number of comments that I got that was

like fourteen amateur, she's not a real fan. And I'm like, fourteen times is a lot of times, like you got. You can't dismiss fourteen times as a as a number of times. So, but forty four, Nick, congratulations, you are officially, as of this moment in time, you're the highest watcher that I have heard of. So congratulations, and I say go for forty five it's a way, way better number. And there you have it, folks, another mail bag in

the well in the bag. Huge thanks to all of you for real guys, for coming back week after week and and for giving us, well giving us the fuel to make this episode. I could not ask for a better group of listeners. Keep the comments coming, and we're gonna see if we can fit in another episode very soon. But until then, we're gonna be back Tuesday with well, perhaps the most well dressed man in the business, the incredible director Paul Feig. And you never know, we might

have a little surprise coming to you before then. What does that mean, Well, it means we may have an episode on Thursday. Have an amazing week everyone, Happy birthday, Steve, and I will see you so the Office. Deep Dive is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley. Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer. Our producers for this episode are Liz Hayes, Emily Carr, and Diego Tapia, and our intern is Hannah Harris. My

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