Andy Buckley

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Andy Buckley and I've played David Wallace on the Office. Hello everybody, and welcome back to another exciting episode of the Office. Deep Dive I am your host, Brian Baumgartner, and this week we're coming at you with somebody that you have all been waiting to hear from. I cannot wait to get started. Today's guest is a man who means business,

and I mean he really means business. Not only was he the fo of dunder Mifflin, which was arguably the greatest and most successful paper company, maybe even any company of all time, but as a real human person, he was moonlighting as a stockbroker for Merrill Lynch the entire

run of the show. Yep, you guessed it. The genius who brought Suck It into our lives Andy Buckley, who also happens to be one of the treasured members of our office fantasy football team, who last week lost by one point to MOI because I had Austin Ekeler thanks to Rain Wilson, who dominated on Monday Night. So Andy suck It now. Andy came onto the show a little

bit later. In fact, he referred to himself as a distant cousin of the cast for the first several seasons he was on board, but he really grew to have a special place in our hearts and the hearts of the people back in Scranton, Pennsylvania. To this day, if you run into Andy on the street, you might come away with a special office themed surprise. Hint, hint. Andy has gone on to do so many big things, from Jurassic World to Shameless and Veep, but he credits it

all to his time on the office. So from the mean streets of Finance to the not so mean streets of Scranton, get ready to hear from the boss of the world's best boss, the master of dead Pan, Andy Buckley. Bubble and I love it, Bubble and squeak, bubble and quaker cooking every month, lift over, not beople. This is how are you great? Good to see you, Good to see you. You know, I wore my finest there it is, you know under Mifflin. I'm not I'm not playing around.

You're not playing I'm the owner of this company. You you are the last. Oh sit there, Yes, I'll tell you half the fun I have to put them on. Oh my god. Yeah. This is how people get in trouble. They they think it's you know, and then they say some thing they shouldn't say, and then their career is over. Well, that's what I'm trying to make happen for you. Hey, Alex, Alex, Hello, sir Alex, I haven't seen your coat today. It's very are you cold? Well? That's how Brian likes it. It's

how Audrey Hepburn liked it. Catherine Hippern all the headburns. Catherin Hippern like this, Uh yeah is that? Does that feel good? See? There you go? There would be no. Here's the thing. Oh, I've gotten people to say way worse than I'm sure. Yeah, how are you? I'm great? Haven't five got picked up? Which is good? You got a job? Baby? There you go? Where is that film across the pond? As they say in London like I'll move to I'll be in London for five months. Wow.

And Gabe is on it a ka Zach Woods, UM's great. Can we swear? Yeah? We can say whatever we want. It's so funny. I took a couple of notes of like funny things. But it's then it reminds me of the It was one of the last episodes. It was the opening teaser. I come in and I'm like, really pissed at Jon Favreau directed, I'm really pissed at ed because you were on a fucking boat for three months. We did it three, four or five times. Everybody says great, fine, good um, and I said more more, and so like

we did it like three or four more times. I'm saying this, motherfuck are you fucking like I was Tony Soprano or something like that, and uh, and you know, ultimately Greg said, now we we you can't like we can't. You know, you're it doesn't make sense. It doesn't match what like the character was. But it was like Kate Flair, remember the time she walked and she said, what the hell was going on? Because like they walk in and they just they don't know what's good. They just hear

this exprest it's just right, oh my god. Um, so you let's let's rewind. Yeah, before you started on the office, that was our warm up. What were you doing? I was born in Boston. No, so you were You were born in Marblehead, Massachusetts. Yeah, at the Salem Hospital. But I'm from Marblehead, Massachusetts. So many of us have from the marble Head, the Massachusetts area, the cat Pack, the smack Pack, and now yes, I I went to college, moved to New York, studied acting, moved to l a

meandered around, didn't like set the world on fire. Not only did I do a Melrose Place, I did a Caroline in the City, so there you go. Check it out. I did a Silk Stockings. I was voted. I was voted the worst acting in the history of silk Stockings. So like, that's that's pretty that's me coming. I was horrible. Was you did actually have the razzies for? But god, I was terrible? But yeah, no, then I I actually like packed in acting and started working to Mary Lynch.

I was a stockbroker. What so you stopped acting? Well, it's not like I was doing much of it, but I officially said all right, said I gotta get a come up with a job. Or my wife, who was my girlfriend at the time, said, Buckley, come up with the job. This is ridiculous, your your life is ridiculous. So it was, you know, I stumbled into Merrill Lynch and there was an actor I knew who worked there, and he said, hey, come on interview, and uh and you know they they hired me. They were kind enough

to hire me. I'm pleasant. Wad you an experience? I had no experience, but yeah, I'm reasonably reasonably smart, and I, you know, and I'm seemingly trustworthy, and you know, I was a great golfer, you know, like just very important. They I think they thought, Okay, this guy'll be able to bring in some clients. So that was it. No, So I was I was there. I was doing that,

and I actually I loved it. I mean I I stayed at Merrill Lynch in Century City is where the office was um throughout the whole run of the show. The last season is when I finally left, like halfway through the very last season. So that's what I was doing. In four and a half years into that, I had run into Alison Jones. She'd be my patron saint. She's completely changed my life for the good, for the for

the great. And uh, I ran into at the local farmers market where we're in the living the same neighborhood. What are you doing, I got I'm a stockbroker, like I'm I'm married, I got a kid. Now apparently I've grown up. And she uh said, all right, we'll give me your card just in case something comes up. Who knows, you know, I said, okay. And my wife is an acting coach and has become like a pretty soft after I can coach. But she had started her class and

I was going to her class. So I had started to like fall back in love with acting and for the right reasons and really was loving doing it. And it was, you know, small class. So then Alison calls me five months after I saw her on the thing or four and a half months something like that, and says, Okay, Buckley, you should. I can't believe I find your card, but I'm glad I did. You should come in. I think you're the right guy. He's the CFO. Do you watch

the office like yeah, yeah, Kevin Molans incredible. Um and uh. And so I go in and I sit there and I'm waiting in the in the room like I duck over from my office, you know, like Century City. Okay, so wait, wait what You're at Merrill Lynch and you're taking acting classes from your wife just because she had started Nancy Banks, great Nancy Banks. Yeah, she had like seven people in her class. I'm like, oh, I'll be the eighth. It will be an even number of scenes.

It's funny, like the two guys in the class, we're me and Channing Tatum and so no, nobody, of course wanted to do scenes with me the teacher's husband, who's the who's the hot you know? Um, yeah, she's been, she've been. She's been working with him since before like anybody knew him. And he's as lovely as as can be. But yes, so I'm doing that. So Allison calls you and says, come in. But you're doing that because you you are just liking it. You're falling in love with

act exactly. Yeah, which was I mean, that's what I wanted to do from the time I saw my first James Dean movie when I was fifteen or whatever and thought I'd be you know, the brooding heartthrobb or whatever, brooding confused teenage kids. And and I'm just a brooding, confused adult, uh you know, fifty year old man and uh but no, so so I go. But it was funny. I'm sitting in the waiting room and then all the actor Why am I look at all these guys? These

are I mean, you know? And then and then chip Eston is there also auditioning, Like gosh, there's there's Chip like and he's the guy for the folks at home and played Josh Porter. And in my head, I think they're gonna here him like what am I doing here? This is ridiculous, Like he's great, And then to make matters worse for the negative actor had Rain pops his head into the waiting room and he and Chip are buddies, and he says, hey, good, you're here. Great. Look I

also told them you should read for this other part. Luckily, because he's gonna do I don't know, a bunch of episodes, just an existed one off. So then Rain says this in front of you. Well he pulled him aside. I just happened to be sitting close and I don't think everybody else started. I just like it wasn't like he broadcasting across the room. But uh like okay. So then I go in and it's Allison and Michael Shure and the old Mikey can tremendous. And I do the scene,

do the second scene, feel good about it. And Michael's like, now wait, now, you're you're like a financial guy, right, You're that's what you're doing. Yeah, you know a Meryl Yeah that's what I'm and I'm a Marylynch guy. And he's like okay, okay, good. And then the next day Alison calls me and says a, right, they're gonna hire you Buckley, They're gonna give you a glasses, maybe gray your hair a little bit. And that was it, and it was like it was awesome. Wow. Yeah at that point,

did you you thought it was just one episode? I thought it was one episode. I mean it was so fun and Greg directed that episode and um, and it was so great that it was I just loved I mean, I remember the first scene that we did was the conference room scene, and I would do it and then he would come up and he would say okay, and he would just like whisper in your try you know, try it whatever the suggestion was. And it was awesome, and that'll be fun. Maybe I'll get to do like,

you know, one a year or something like that. And then I really started to think, oh man, I may be on this a fair amount. After we hired Ryan to work in corporate. So to answer your question I had I was a stockbroke. Well, it's it's interesting to me because it's the same thing with Phillis. Like Phillis was a casting associate, right who just read naturally with the people who were involved. And and yeah, so it's

interesting that Mike asked you those questions. Yeah, yeah, And it was funny because the guy who ran my office at the time, it was just a lovely guy. Like he wasn't some corporate you know asshole that you sort of the cliche of what a corporate guy. He was just like a great guy. Um, Dick Valentine if you're listening for still Buddies. But it was like, and Dick's a good guys didn't have to be like some you

know jerk. You're a good guy. Why not. So in that first episode it was just Stephen Milaura, right, well, that was the second scene. The first scene it was Steve Malaura and then Chip was in that Josh Porter and the guy that was like, well maybe I should have just slept with jan too. I'd be fine, right right, right, right right. Fun But but in terms of the you know, the original sort of corecast with Steve, yeah, Stephen Milaura, I mean at this point it was occurring to me

when I was looking at meeting with you today. By the time you came on the show, Steve was a movie star. Yeah, like you know when we started, he wasn't had you seen fourty year old Virgin? Yeah, yeah, I'd seen that I'd seen the show and like, oh my crap, you know, and uh and I mean, yeah, he couldn't have been more every and everyone couldn't have been more welcoming. And he's such a pro and he's just always coming up with funny or different ways to do it, and which is really I guess that's a

Second City thing. I've maybe it's a Steve thing too, but it's a something they try to do in Second City. You'd never do the same thing in a row or you know, twice, right, right right. I mean, you certainly had scenes with other people, but so much of your interaction was with Michael Scott, and you guys played so well together. How was it for you playing with him? Oh my god, it's spectacular. I would of course constantly laugh.

I mean, he would just make me laugh. If we did eight takes, four of them, I would have burst out laughing. Oh, it was hard for It was hard for anybody, for sure. Did you when you come on, say for the first time, when you entered the bullpen at under Mefflin for the first time, or with working with Steve or whatever, did that make you nervous? Of course? Yeah. The first day I was nervous as as heck um, and then that thing you sort of settled back into Okay, what am I doing in this scene? Why am I

hear all that stuff? And you know, and Steve, you walk on, I couldn't you walks right over? Hey, how you doing? I'm Steve? You know, glad you're here. Blah blah blah. You know, it just couldn't be more gracious. And Greg was like that as well, you know everybody, um, and well, it's funny because, like as you said, the first I don't know the first number of years, it was always me and Steve mostly, but it was always corporate, so I was never in the bullpen. It was always

he would come season five or so. I don't know when I started going to Scranton, but the first few times like, oh wow, like I'm never here, this as will And I mean I didn't really know anybody, didn't you know, I didn't know you. I didn't know Kate or you know, Angela, any of the people really, and you were all very mean, No, especially No, and so was like, oh wow, this is wild. Yeah, like I'm never here, this is only smokes. The one thing I think that really I feel like This made a significant

difference in them perhaps using me more. Was the convention in Scranton. I should have got myself invited to that. So we had we had finished season three, you know, we hired Ryan. He started thinking me, I wonder if there's a way I can sort of figure out how to grate some business Merrill Lynch wise with this. So I just look up is there a Merrill Lynch office

in Scranton, And lo and behold, there there is. I called the office and there's a fellow who was there at the time, and he said, hey, we're they're having a convention, you know, in about a month, and are you coming to that? I like, oh't no. I know the guy putting on the convention, Tim Holmes, And he said, let me call him. So like he set it up for me to meet Tim, and Tim said, hey, come on, we'll bring in And so it was great to get to be a part of that because I didn't know anybody.

I didn't know the writers, I didn't know. So for three days, like I get to be around and I'm there and I'm talking to people, and I feel like that made a I don't know, I feel like it made a difference because then the writers got a sense of like, uh, he's all right, he's okay, yeah, he'll he'll do let's bring him back. That's fascinating. How was it for you just on a personal level, having two jobs for such a long period of time, I mean,

was that about security for you? Or yeah? Yeah, and hey, I mean I really enjoyed my time at Marylanch like and uh, and I got partners when I started getting busy, because when I started getting on the show a lot that didn't necessarily take a ton of time. I mean, most ever did, I think was twelve episodes. But it was because of that that I was getting opportunities to audition for a ton of stuff, for get to be

in some movies and things like that. Or I had then had gotten on this other show when these team dramas, it was really great fun show. Look called The Lying Game like a pretty little liar stud think. So then it was a little crys like, all right, I'll probably leave in a year, who but let's just keep me on the books. And and then then I eventually left

at the end of two twelve. I guess through throughout your time on the going back a little bit how aware were you from episode to episode or season two season how much you're going to be involved? Not at all. That was the crazy thing on season five. I mean, it's kind of funny in hindsight because I would just get a call from Alison Jones, Hey, they're gonna use you next week. They'll emilia script there. Oh great, I didn't have an agent. I had not like, I didn't

have anything. That's awesome. And then after a little while Alison was Great's like, I'm gonna get you some more money that you should be getting paid a little more, and she did that, and then you know, I ended up in a ton of the episodes that year. I was like, man, if I, like what I had an agent, I might have been able to make like a lot more money, and like, what could have been a regular man?

What was I thinking? But I, like, I would have that thought fleetingly and like, hey, man, are you kidding? So I didn't really dwell too much in that but no, I wouldn't really know. And then at the end of season five is when Randy Cordray said, Hey, they're gonna you know, we gotta get you some sort of a deal next year, And I said, oh, great, all right, And then that was the got rid of me, like crap, we'll give you eight or ten shows and at the end you'll be gone. And you thought you were gone

for good. I thought I was gone for good. And we're doing the table read and I'm reading it and like huh, And I said to Paul am I gone. He's like, yeah, you know, we'll figure out a way to bring you back at some point. But then, you know, it's so funny when they did ultimately bring me back, Like a year and a half later, I met a local Scranton fundraiser. I just happened to bump into edit the bar, like, hey, Buckley, you're back. Let's go with it.

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In late two early two thousand nine, the housing bubble burst and we went into a recession. So first off, I want you to educate me. What was the financial crisis that happened. I mean, I guess there were all kinds of things, but what the big thing was the lending on questionable credit. So what you had was all this lending going on. You know, you had whether they're actually were at the banks or actual individual more mortgage brokers.

They all these banks lowered the credit standards that were necessary, that had been necessary to get alone. So all kinds of people were getting houses or condos or and then buying second houses and third houses and all kinds of stuff.

You had people who you know, generally would be lucky to to own one house with basic credit standards who suddenly owned like you know, four or five houses, and and then it just reaches a crescendo or like wait a second, this guy can't pay a mortgage on five houses. You can barely pay one. And so then the banks to start losing all kinds of money. I mean, it

was crazy. There was There was a the weekend that Lehman Brothers went out of business, like Mary Lynch almost when I like, it was two or three different ones that were possibly going to go out of business, and and Leman Brothers was the one when all this was happening.

That was my busiest year on the show. Like there was one day the day um the stock market by three hours in was down over seven hundred points, and back then it would be like if the market was down fift points that you know by two hours in. And that was the day that I think it was a Michael Scott negotiation buying back to Michael Scott Paper Company. It was a big scene. And it's like Steve and and I have to keep ducking out, like whenever they say, okay,

we're gonna you know, let's take let's take five. You know, I'd like duck out and Dr Wilson, Andy Buckley. We're gonna be fine. It's a temporary thing. I have to be out of the office today. John and and Dan are in there, you know. Meanwhile, I say, I'm like, I got a huge scene. This is so fun, like I wanted, I wanted. You cannot believe what I'm getting to do today. Of course, couldn't say that. Do you feel like the office spoke to or how do you

think that that crisis affected storylines, either you're specifically or others. Well, it's yeah, like the shareholders, like we went bankrupt and that's sort of coincided with what was going on in the world old at the time. So I mean, I guess the writers were paying attention to their own brokerage accounts, you know which we're going down, or paying attention to

the news. Oh that was the funny thing. Uh. They were some of the folks that, uh, not my partners or whatever, but like just some of the other folks at Mary lunch at the time. They're like, well, are you talking to them about their accounts? Like, no freaking way, I'm not mentioning. I want them to keep writing from me, Like I want to keep acting. I don't want I want like someone's accounting, and I certainly don't want them thinking I'm like sniffing around who handles your money? You know?

Once you come talk to my partners, you know, that's so great. Yeah. So they're like, hey, can you go get us Steve Carrell's wealth account? Yeah, Greg Daniels. And You're like, no, I don't want to work with you guys anymore. I want to do that. Yeah. Oh that's so interesting. And would you be honest about that with them? Would yeah? Yeah? Yeah, you know, like the ones that I knew, Like, no, I'm not doing like, there's no

freaking way I'm doing. I just want them to see me as like the CFO, and let's keep him around. Let's keep him around. Um, how do you feel like David? What was his journey through the show? Um? Hey, man, I don't know, well, but I mean he actually he

actually goes through quite a lot. Yeah, I mean he's it's I always joke, um, like he must have been a terrible CFO because like the company went bankroft, we had to sell and uh, you know, getting involved in local branch things like why are you know this granted branch. What's going on they show up? Of course the companies gonna run out of business if the CFO is doing that. Um, it's so funny the way that the writers just get like the whole sucket thing. I think Jen wrote that

episode and Krasinski directed. That's funny. I remember at the time, thing boy, He's like, he's pretty good. Director cut a quiet Place, which was terrible. By the way, what is that? I don't that Is that a play he was in? No, I'm kidding, because in something good's gonna happen for him, he'll have He's a good kids like. But when they brought him back, it was, you know, I don't know,

he's ups and downs we have in life. The he's just some creepy guy hanging out in the tub for a while and then he gets lucky with the suck it. Like I say about Steve in the deposition, he's a good guy. I think Wallas was a good guy. But you know, he probably believed in people. You know, whatever it was he did, he took his eye off the ball too much. I guess, like like I guess many people. I mean it happened to many people during that time, So you know, maybe he was halfway decent, but he

wasn't great at it, right. It happened to a lot of people, meaning like like just in the world, you know, a lot of people that are probably smart capable of people didn't see the financial bubble happening as it did. So we'll put Wallace in that pool. It is interesting to me though that you know that I think a typical show would serve to demonize the CFO, you know, the you know, the the top top executives in a way and both you know, through the writing and your portrayal.

He was like a good human being that like, you know, everybody loves Jim, right that like Jim wanted to hang out with him, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that And I think that was the thing. He was just he was a pretty regular guy who you know, he's married, he's got his kids, I mean all that stuff. Yeah, And he's not a cliche, you know, caricature of the corporate guy that you see on some I mean, he's just a a normal guy that works hard and does

you know, reasonably well. And then you know, like many people lost and lost the company. But yeah, and and Michael Scott like his like in the in the one I forget what the episode is called. I think it's in the duel. He uh, like Michael, you're you know, all the other branches are failing, but your branch is doing well. You know, what are you doing? Right? Like his branch always like succeeded even though he was bumbling

and all that. But well, hey, he keeps winning, you know, Mark fid Rich, you know, to reference someone we know, yea, you know the guy was a crazy picture, but he kept winning. Look him up, you kids, the bird, the Bird. But I think it goes to also your character that you go to him and say, how are you succeeding? How are you doing this? Yea? So maybe he was good at his jong or he's a best linger. I don't know. Something I did hire Ryan though that you know,

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I'm a regular on the show. And luckily in the contract that you know that when you do these things, you know, said how you can't do any other shows,

blah blah blah. But we had put in there, like Jeff Frankel, my lawyer, had put in there, you know, if the office calls, he can do up to X amount of episodes, which is great because they greg wanted me for like thirteen or fourteen shows, and technically that it was only you know, six or seven or eight or something like that, and so I ended up having to do the other four just like on the phone.

But I mean, it was fantastic to get to be a fairly big part of the last season at least, you know, to be around a lot, which was fun because it because it was I mean, I was kind of like an outsider. So like you guys were there constantly all the time, You're there all and I just kind of pop in and hey, and you know, everybody's nice and friendly. But it's like I'm the I don't know what, I'm like, the distant cousin sort of thing who shows up every once in a while. I don't

know if you were really the distant cousin. I mean, by the rap party Scranton, you are no distance. You know, you weren't a distant cousin anymore. It was so fun. Oh my god. Yeah, I feel like you had a special connection to Scranton. Yeah, I I loved I mean Tim and Michelle and those are my two great buddies, and I know with you as well, and you may have others. Yeah, I love it. I mean it's funny. I remember the first time I went there, I was, man, I love this town. This is like, this is a

pretty great town. I mean I've I've been back there maybe a dozen times. Right, I went back recently and walked around that old ballpark. Wh Yeah, I mean, my god, how great. That was so fun. That was a blast to get to do that. I mean, it's certainly a fun place to walk around. You walk around and people said to do a double take, and then who was because it's more than half the town probably knows this, you know, knows the show perfectly. How do you interact

with fans? Now, I should love it shown them. Yeah, I'm on an HBO show. Now I don't have time for these people. Uh no, you kidd me, IM like, I'm super interactive. You've seen the David Wallace business card that I've that I hand out. Oh kids, you know people generally it's like college kids are They come up to me in airports and they're you know, hey, well I was, and I give them that and say, you know, we're hiring if you want to get in the paper

business and you have stress balls that yeah that. I don't know how I can't thought of that. And it was funny. I was thinking about this during season five or six, and I was in New York and getting to do the other guys like which was the coolest thing because yeah, well Ferrell and Wallburg and and I meet Will. He knows everything about the show. He's like, hey,

what's going on with the show? And he had seen the episode the night before, and I mean there's like one of my comedy heroes and holy crappy like those who I am, Oh my God, but so I I would have these stress balls, and I would I would I would walk around New York City and I would have these. And if somebody sort of you know, said something or something like that, like I would have awesome a dunder Mifflin's dress ball, just because I thought it

was funny. And then and then one night, a like a great friend of mine she called and she said, sucky, are you like walking around New York tossing out dunder Mifflin's dress balls. My friend, you know, Tommy called me and said, I think I think it was your buddy. But I mean, I have a ton of fun with it. Why, you know, why not? Because it's like, I'm not Steve,

and I think about you. I'm like, you must constantly just be bombarded like I'm not once a day, twice a day, and it's generally in like a line at a coffee place or whatever. Yeah, hey, thanks man, you know whatever. When it first started, I mean, frankly, I would purposely wear my David Wallace classes. You know that someone would say something, this is like the first year or two write like, which is so crazy. I remember one time in uh New York doing the other guys

during Halloween. And I literally went out as as Wallace during Halloween and walked all around. But it was funny, like nobody, nobody, you know, I saw. I saw a couple of dwighte shroots and no one, you know, made the connection. But yeah, so I would purposely walk around wearing the glasses. It's interesting though for me that it

began in a way in Scranton. For you, Yes, I mean it was suddenly I'm convention at the convention and you know, there's like ten thousand people there and they it's Wallace, and uh, I'm just so happy to be there. I'll I'm the last guy, like you know, with you, the last guy to leave the bar and you're serving drinks and having fun and talking to people and photos and everything else. I mean, because I'm a fan of all.

That's like when I like when I met Alec Baldwin during that time and I was a Dirty rock fan. I was so excited, you know there you know on Jack, you know what I mean. Or if you meet whomever, you know, if you meet some movie star you have been a fan of, and it's, uh, it's it's it's fun, you know, Or a ball player or something like that. Um my favorite My favorite story is, uh, so my wife is an acting coach and she coaches off our

garage and some people come to the front door. Normally they just like walk down the the driveway, and so, uh we we were were at home and I'm looking all scruffy, like the suck at David Wallace, and the doorbell rings and I know that she's she's this woman is coming. I answered the door and it's Courtney Love And she looked great, like she's in the suit, like she looks super put together, and and I said, oh, hey, um, Nancy's coming down hill, be back here, coming back and

then wait in the back or whatever. And then Nancy comes down and they walk back to the studio. And I guess the first thing that Courtney says to my wife is like, why why is the guy from the office in your house? What is why is he? Which is just like you wouldn't necessarily picture her as as you know, but I guess her and in their their daughters love the show, like the people who are huge fans, like what Obama was watching it on the way to

the inauguration, Like how crazy is that? It's pretty cool? Yeah, what are you most thankful for about doing the show? I mean, oh my god, I gave like I got to have an acting career, you know. I mean seriously, the fact that Alison found that card that like given her that Mary Lynch Buckley, you know, and it was at the bottom of a file drawer. She's just like, I took me an hour to find this card Buckley. I can't believe it. And um, and it's crazy because

of the show. I'm in Jurassic World. Colin is a huge office fan. That's the only reason a minute, Like regular folks, guys who are making shows are huge fans and like, hey, let's get you know this guy right. Well. You know, one of the reasons that we're having this discussion with people is the show was the number one scripted show on NBC for a number of years. But you know, to a lot of us, the show is

way bigger. Oh my god, it's huge. It's like the nub number of that and Friends of the two biggest shows in the world. I mean in London, it's certainly not what it is here, but I mean a couple of times a week, you know, some people say stuff and then certainly when the summer rolls around and you have all the US tourists there. But yeah, and I mean I think you know all over the world they're they're watching it. You can get a table at a

restaurant in Sydney, Australia. I bet just say it's Brian Bonker. Why do you think why do you think it has endured? Well, I think it's probably the performance of the guy that played Wallace. Um No. I mean, it's just exceptionally funny for one, and you have characters and like everybody has it. I mean, you know some guys you're their favorite character, Rain Jim, you know Steve, and just that the heart that Steve has and brought to it, aside from just

the crazy, great humor. So I think that's I think that's probably and I mean the heart that Steve put into Michael Scott, even though he has all these potential negative, you know, traits, he just had this heart of gold, and I think that is also part of it, along with the comedy, and then just the sexual chemistry between Holly Flax and Kevin Malone. Well, sure that all right? Last thing I need you to say two things for me. Um. This is for oral identification. I'm Andy Buckley and I

played David Wallace on the Office. I am Andy Buckley and I played David Wallace on The Office. Good say faster you. I'm Andy Buckley and I played David Wallace on the Office. Awesome, Andy, Thank you so much. You are wise, funny and exceptionally sexy. All Right, we good? Not only are we good? Great? We're good. Well. There you have it, folks. I guess he really is as funny in real life as he is on TV. All right, maybe I already knew that, but now you do too.

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