The Ochelli Effect 9-15-2023 Open Mic

The Chilly Effect is sponsored by Wall Street, Window dot Com and listeners like you, Yeah, Yeah, yelly. September fifteen, twenty twenty three, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, and this might be the show you were looking for. Not sure, but you've found it because you're hearing me say this. Anyway, it is Friar's Day, and uh, we're doing the call in show, so you can join in. I've got my co host be Pete with me. Hopefully you as well. You the

live listener. We went to air well a little more than ten minutes past the hour here of eight pm Eastern on the East coast of what we used to call America. And uh, yeah, so we're live. Otherwise you're hearing the replay and all that good stuff. And I don't know, man, you know, if you're hearing us live, feel free to join us. Though three one nine five two seven five zero one six. I did not realize how ingested I probably sound. Uh, and I am. I'm

a little congested. I'm a little stuffed up. Who knows, maybe I'll blow my nose on the mic before it's over. I'm not really, I'm not gonna do that. To you guys, but be peachs with me. He might sound a little congested. Is it the day of congestion? Is it the day of confusion? Is it the day of the indictment. We're going to try and cover some news. I guess I'll have to revisit the JFK thinks some more. Uh, you know, as is. I'm going to get into it next week. I got another guest lined up. We're

going to talk about some more issues regarding the Kennedy assassination. But I haven't feeling he might want to comment on, well, the landish revelation. You might have heard that show last night. I got it out as quick as I could. Larry Hancock and Allen Dale with me last night. I thought they did stellar jobs and explaining, well, you know, some of the history behind that h some of the reality of the previous date, etc.

As for always, Larry did context quite well. I think we did about an hour and fifteen on it. But tonight we're gonna go about two hours and live and take your calls. So three one nine five two seven five zero one six, or you can reach out to me Charles Dotocelli on Skype. I gotta tell you. I'm not in a big, big talkie talk mood, but I do have a randomized topic here in mind. Do I want to play the home game of which indictment is it? Do I want

to sit here and talk about Hunter Biden now being indicted on three? Is it three? Three felonies? Right? Three gun related felonies because he was doing coke and lied on his form and there might be more to that. By the way, who knows will it go to trial? Will it go to probation? Wise? Who was appointed by Trump at some point? Right? Yeah, he's part of this, but what part is he of it? And how far are they actually gonna go? And oh, by the

way, that other thing is still going on. Cheeseborough, I keep having to restrain myself from calling him cheeseburger, and I keep thinking of Mayor mc cheese. I don't know why cheeseborough. I'm making fun of his name because I don't care about the guy otherwise. Anyway, severed Trialds, those two dependants maybe going forward, and they're trying to come up with a way to deal with that, et cetera, et cetera, And I'm bored to death.

They're ready It's like watching a law and order marathon. You know, here's your conflict, here's the possible criminal. Here's some of the investigation. Now into the courtroom. Do they get him or don't they? Did they nail him? Did they prove their point? Is this a greater issue? Is this ripped from the headlines? Is this something that we all need to consider? Eon I fall asleep in front of the law and Order marathon, But I guess America is not ready to do that yet. Are there other

headlines? Absolutely sure, more natural disasters, vaccination news out there apparently, And well, I hate to say it, but some of the people that were screaming that we're about to be confronted by it yet another wave of new restrictions and possibilities. Oh god, it looks like they might be getting ready to roll some stuff out. But I don't want to hit a panic button at all. I think that we're all sick of at Be Pete might have a story on it. Anyway, enough out of me, be Pete.

How are you doing tonight? Man? Doing good? Trying to catch up. I had a very hectic week again this week. But that and every sinus problem that I missed during the season shit me this past week too, So I'm super congested. You might hear me cough ub along or something tonight. Who knows? You sound clogged up a little bit like I do? You could probably, I know, I got the gravelly voice. Who can help? Who can tell? But I bet you can tell. I'm like

a little bit congested. Anyway, it is what it is. Do we want to do a medical show? Let's talk about our cold remedies? That would be useful. Actually not a ba I'm huff a chord at the moment. Nice. I gotta tell you I might not. I might want to use one of those what do they call that? It's a many pot where you shoot these the water up your nose and it comes back out. Uh.

Yeah, you know, I'm not one for waterboarding myself. A lot of people tell me that the thing works and it does great, but I'm just not you know, I'm not in the drowning Yeah, I'm neither of I But same time, I'll tell you what if it cleans it out, it cleans it out, and anything to breathe better is a good thing. I think. Hey, I could talk about dreams too. I had a weird dream where you know, somebody was trying to forcefully cut my feet off. So I don't know what that means. Actually I do, But do

I want to discuss that? No? Uh, why did I bring it up? Well, it might have something to do with the topic I might bring up. But let's let's get to some news and callers and all that good stuff. And again, I'd love to hear from you guys. So I'm gonna leave it more as as an open forum tonight because you know, again, the news kind of sucks and I'm gonna do this Sunday news show again. And the topic here's just a behind the scenes thing is I almost

ended up with, Well, let's go to the courtroom again. I don't want to become a courtroom reporter. I don't feel as though, Look, I don't mind commenting on some of the stuff. It's in the news. It is, it's relevant, sure, But I don't want to become a guy commenting on the courtroom. I mean, I've observed some court I've read some transcripts. I know something about the law, but I don't feel as though I'm some kind of expert that I should be discussing this, like,

you know, making presentations to show anybody anything. I don't. I know, everybody and their mother seems like they are. I was checking out all the different you know, courtroom drama type channels and commentators, you know some of them just you know, playing courtroom scenes and then commenting on them.

The case, excuse me, the case of the day, the case of the week, case of the month, whatever the latest murder trial is, etc. Whether it's that kid in what is that Idaho or Iowa who killed other students, and then you have I think there's another one in Idaho as well right now. Uh, you know, the death penalty cases, these different courts, and these people who have no idea about anything are just on there and look at that. Look at that. Look at that guy's face.

He looks guilty. I mean, it's it's it's like what used to happen sometimes in the shop. Remember the shops that had all the TV's lined up. I think you can still go to a Walmart and I don't know if they still have the TV's playing stuff, Uh, because I don't. I haven't been to Walmart in a minute. But you know it used to be you go to the electronics department, the TV's were all lined up.

There used to be whole stores devoted to just the TV section of the TV store pretty much, right, and you could go there, and some people would go there and hang out a little bit, and somehow come up with an excuse to be in there a bit. And occasionally there'd be gatherings of a couple of people run into each other, start talking to each other, and convene almost at the TV store or the TV set action of sears or whatever, which used to be big, and sometimes they'd be watching live TV

and they would just hang out there. Oh look, I just want to catch this news story before I go kill an hour on a Saturday or two hours out of Saturday at the sears. And I don't know if they didn't have a TV at home or they're sucked, or you know, their cable was out. I don't know, but some people will do that. And I'm almost reminded of this, except now you can go on the internet stand

in front of your own TV sort of right. You put yourself like green screen yourself in front of the TV feed or the courtroom feed, and it's just do commentary boom. It's it's the same thing like the video game commentary. I don't I don't get what the desire is to do that. But there's some people that were making a living actually getting good tips on their YouTube channels and stuff. I mean people are tipping heavy. I watched somebody gave

somebody fifty bucks. And there's also people out there live streaming, like that escaped guy which they caught this week, you know in Pennsylvania. He was escaped for a little while. What was his name I should know, Ohkabal Kanti. It's not Decabbalcanti, like the crime family from Jersey, but Cabal Kante because he's from South America somewhere, and there are South American names that are very similar to a lot of Italian names. That happens a lot.

Matter of fact, I see South American people named Ocelli, not related to me, and I'm not sure where they came from anyways. Weird thing. Uh, Yeah, he escapes from the and they were tracking him. But there was a youth. There was a couple of YouTube channels just kind of running around out with the search just with like shaky cams and so like two guys or one guy running around with a camera out there and another one or two guys commenting on live streams that were going on for six, seven,

ten, twelve hours, and people were throwing them nice tips. They were getting hundreds of dollars for doing this right there in public. I don't know what their PayPal tips were or anything, but you can make super chats to him and it would show, you know, fifty dollars, tip, ten dollars, tip, five dollar tip. You know, they would say something semi clever and the chat room would light up. Oh hey, here's another tip five bucks. Yeah, I don't have the design. I don't know.

I mean, I would love to make the money, but I don't know. I just I don't think I could be motivated to do that. And then what would I do? Send missus O out to do it. Wait till Frankie's old enough, send him out to do it. Hope that something is nearby enough I can live stream the search for a criminal or a body or Yeah, people are doing that on YouTube as well. YouTube's getting weirder while they, you know, clean it away of all the dirty undesirables

like myself. Well that's because, just to interject, that's because you had a couple of things happened in the past, I'm making a murder series. And the one that was out before it about the guy that supposedly killed his girlfriend. You had those, So now everybody's a crime true prime podcaster. It's the end thing. YouTube is swamped with it, and if you watch one, you'll see it in your recommended feed over there on the right constantly.

Well, and there's a newspaper online or something that is now doing like the counter to making a murderer where they're like, hey, Netflix, lie to you. These guys are actually guilty. We're going to show you why. Daily Wire is doing it with what's her name, Candice? Is it Candice Owens? I think it's Candice Owens. I think you're right. Yeah, she's narrating part of it. I saw the first episode. They had two episodes out and then you have to pay for the rest, right and

Daily Wire, but I didn't see the second one. The first one, there were a few things in there that I don't know. I think they were they weren't. They didn't list, they didn't follow the known things out there when they made some comments. All right, but nobody is going to follow all of the possibilities in any docuse series that's for sure. And I'm not even saying they're right or wrong. Matter of fact, some of the

things that they omitted in that Netflix series are pretty serious. But you know, at the same time, it's like, okay, so now you're gonna make the counter to making a murderer and why because they're going to charge you fourteen dollars for one month if you sign up for a daily wire for a month. If you sign up for the year, they'll charge you like six or seven dollars or whatever, but you have to pay for the annual billing.

So you know, there, I'm thinking that there's gonna be enough people that want more of making a murderer, whether they agree with it, disagree with it, whatever, and they're gonna make a decent amount of money there. I mean, I don't know what they had to spend to make this counter documentary, but I don't know. It's like, uh, and there were always these counter documentaries that were attempted. Remember Michael Moore with Fahrenheit nine

to eleven. Then somebody else came out with a like I don't know, Fahrenheit Michael Moore or something, right, I forget what it was, but it was like they tried to counter like Michael Moore was lying to you on there, and they tried to show you where he was lying or stuff. He left his big thing, Oh well yeah, what was it? Fahrenheight eleven. Yeah, Fahrenheit nine. It also is, yeah, but also his other documentary on Bowling for Columbine. Yeah, when we got picked apart

pretty hard too about Bowling for Columbine. I mean people have tried to pick apart Michael Moore, and some of them rightfully so, and some of them sort of like, oh, come on, you know, but he's making a presentation, and his presentation just like a chord briefing. They don't go, well, let me tell you about all the evidence it goes against my claim. Uh no, they're supposed to make it available to the defense, but then it's up to the defense to put it out there. God see,

I'm back in the court Drauma. I hate it anyway. Now, Michael Moore is an interesting filmmaker, though I gotta say it's a little weird. But I mean between Roger and Me and Sicko and everything else, he makes good points in my mind a lot of times. But is he the guy that you know you want to rely on for it, like, here's the gospel of it, here's the full truth. No, you shouldn't rely on any documentary filmmaker for that. They don't have time for the full truth,

even if they wanted to put it out there. Yeah, but in my opinion, Michael war doesn't even attempt to get close to the truth. Is a satirical run at anything he does. But he omits a lot of overlooks a lot of facts and what he's pulling. That's like the know when he was making the claim in Bowling for Columby that you could walk in the bank and get a free weapon, and that's not how that deal worked.

If you went into the bank and he opened an account, yes you got a hunting rifle, but you had to go through a weighted a delay before you received it so they could do background checks and stuff like that. You know, little inconsistent things like that he leaves out. But again doesn't every

single one. I mean, I don't know. I've just noted that every time I pick apart one of these documentaries, and I happen to know more than what I knew before, you know, like if I know the material backwards and boards I can pick apart almost anything, uh and and find okay, you left this out, you didn't mention this, you could have put this in always, But anyway, there's more do it more. Well, maybe that's why he's also more successful, because he makes things that are extremely

unbalanced and make a very harsh point. But he's also thinking the murderer that I spend a lot of time on that one, and I think there's a case to be made that there was someone who lived very nearby, like a trailer a way, that had the opportunity to do that. And I honestly think the guy sitting in jail now got framed, well it could be I think the young guy you got screwed here? Uh you know, well he

did that. For them not to throw out that confession is just amazing when you watch the whole thing, it's amazing with the way they walked him through that. But I mean, and that aside, the individual I'm looking at is a relative of Stephen Avery. Yeah no, and I know where you're going. But the other part about that though, just to handle the Brendan Dassy thing really quickly because now we have phone callers and again, see now

we're in courting room drama. Land, I can't help it. No matter what we do, be Pete, we're gonna get drawn into courtroom drama this year. I want you to know that so well. I want to try and avoid it. Inevitable, it's bound to happen. I mean, lawyers run everything. Now, yeah, the lawyers not involved, and it's not you know, having an effect on anything or anybody. And you know,

is it the chicken or the egg which comes first? Does the lawyers show up to you know, swoop down on it like the vulture he is or is it just a lawyer came first and he created the first lawsuit just to give himself a reason to be hired. Okay, fair enough. But the Brendan Dascy thing, once again, it's not just the bad confession, which people have argued about. And even I had what was the named ROBERTA. Glass on here. She's like, Nope, you're wrong about that. He's

guilty sins that one. Yeah, I mean, but she thinks everybody's guilty. And look, maybe I tend to thank everybody's not guilty. And these two skewed views could come together and have a problem. But in that Dascy situation. The stuff that they have him confessing to that he allegedly did,

the evidence doesn't back it up, is what the problem is exactly. So, you know, because if you got blood everywhere from this and that that he's doing, and this and that, and it wasn't cleaned up well enough to get rid of what would result from you know, It's sort of like if I killed you with a chainsaw BP, I am not getting rid of every single cast off piece of blood unless I prepare myself a dexter like slaughter

roommate. You know what I'm saying exactly exactly. And supposedly she was killed in his bedroom, yeah, and then taken out to the garage and they found the only trace of blood of hers that they found was on a supposed bullet. Yeah, with the bullet was and doubt doubt seriously the results of that test because the bullet they found was after what a week almost they went in and completely took that garage apart. I want to say, at the

blood anywhere. It might be a month before they went to the garage and took it apart. I know they went back a week later at the room and found the key in plain sight I mean, look, there's a lot of weird stuff there, and I don't know how I feel about, you know, how guilty he is or how guilty I know what the what making

a murderer was trying to show you. But it doesn't mean that I wasn't skeptical of them too, even though I have a proclivity to believe that watching multiple You know, when they when they discovered the vial of blood and they're holding it, they're sitting there looking at it, and they go, oh and see, oh, there's a hole in the cap, And I thought, you can't tell me you guys have not seen a freaking vacuutainer before, or the hole in the top is how the blood got in the damn thing?

Idiots, And they're trying to make a big deal about it, Well, you can pop the top on those things. Well yeah, but they're thinking, did someone stick a needle in there and put a drop of blood here and there? I'm thinking, guys, you're going down the wrong. If they were going to use the blood out of that to to frame him, they wouldn't have been bothered with a needle in all that crap, because you can take the cork apart and say how many needles were shoved through it?

Right? But also it's very seldom you hit the same hole every time. Right, You're not going to hit the same hole at exactly the same angle anyway, So you could see that there's but look, throw that aside, forget it. You know what, be Pete, I don't care. I'll say you're you're wrong, Be Pete. Let's try another tact on this. Just because you have a needle that went through there, Now you have

to show me when that needle hole was made. You know you got you gotta show me that because you could come up with other reasons for that needle hole. Okay, so you gotta show me when it was done. Was it not president at a certain point and then present later? So you can show me a time. No, you've got all kinds of You can't put it in there and say that's proof. Absolutely, even if I say, oh no, I'll be beat you're wrong. They don't usually stick the thing.

That's not how they get the blood in there. And I've seen them do the thing where they put the cap on afterwards. That's another type of vial, I think, And I'm not sure which type of vial. This was, but let's just say I wanted to throw out your tain or vile. Believe me, we used them in the army. I was a medic. We used them constantly. It's in every hospital in the US. Well.

A vacuutain or vile then, in that case means that by necessity, the only way you're getting anything in is using the needle, because otherwise you're breaking the vacuum by pulling the cap off right solidly, and that's the only way it works anyway. All right, Well, but like I said, a lot of different ways to go. But look, we got two people on hold already. I see a Skype message. I'm go check that out. I'm not sure if it's about the show or not. We'll find out

momentarily, but I do want to get to the call. I know you have at least one new story loaded up, so yeah, and I found another one too, a very interesting one. It's a new film of the second plane hitting the World Trade Center. A new film, just a new film. It shows a whole different angle. It's the Department of Defense or something has seen it and you know, verified it. But it's shown up on YouTube. It's taken from a boat. You know where Battery Park is,

south of the towers. Okay, well I heard about it. Is this? Wait, is there more than one video taken from a boat in Battery Park? Because I know that that something like that existed before. I don't know, I've never seen this one before. I've seen a lot of footage, but I haven't seen this one before him. And it's a clear shot of the second plane hitting the building. All right, Well, you know I haven't seen for the link in the room when we get to it.

Gotcha, gotcha? And plus you know somebody might call in and ask about the JFK thing and landish which you know, come on, I covered it last night but didn't really give my entire solution to what we have here.

But I mean I think you could take from it exactly what you need to, because Alan Dale pretty much predicted what I was going to think about it, and you know, he went, let me guess, you know, even though I'm not Kreskin or however he put it, he said, you know, hey, look, I'll take my guess at what I figure

you're going to come to. Uh, he's not far from exactly what I think about it, which is you know it's it's not definitive proof of anything, first of all, and people that are out there going, look it's proof the magic bullet theory is correct. Look, it's proof the magic bullet

theory is absolutely incorrect. And look, you know, if Landis's anecdote that kind of doesn't make sense along with you know, his other anecdotes from the past, doesn't make sense with the existing evidence and adds maybe yet another bullet sighting in Parkland Hospital. If you are to believe it, if you think that's definitive proof of anything, I gotta tell you, I'm shaking my hand.

But you know, here we go. It's making people scream things like the magic bullet is absolutely an impossibility, and no, it's not an impossibility. It's that's the funny thing is and Donald Thomas even showed it's not an

impossibility. But now you have to find the circumstances to match it. And there is an inconclusive, very slim chance that you could orient things in a certain way and make your magic bullet work, because it's not the zig zagging bullet they show you in those stupid diagrams from the eighties, which people are still using despite the fact that they they're not accurate. It's not a zig

zagging. It's amazing. I've seen a couple of you know, actual drawings where they've gone in and position, and I mean it works and basically, and it's all because of the layout of the limo and the way things were, where the arm rests were, where the joke seems work. And it's amazing though that it does line up. I mean, you couldn't make it work well in Donald Thomas Hill don't believe it. But yeah, you can't

make it work. Oh no, I don't believe it either. But it's not to say that it's impossible, and it's not just theoretically, you know, just vaguely out Look again Donald Thomas's book, Here No Evil. Unfortunately, he does show that. Look theoretically, if these and these conditions exist, and you take into account in the pitch of this, the direction of this, the fact that bullets do not travel in exactly straight lines, that's

another problem. They're not in exactly straight lines. Even if they hit soft tissue, trajectories altered a little bit, which doesn't make a lot of difference two inches away, but as you get further down the line, further away from the point of impact. A very minor change in trajectory can change well, the next thing that bullet hits very easily. You have deflections from bone, sure, but you don't even have to hit bone to have a deflection.

A lot of things in play there, and it's not as simple as Nope, it's impossible. It doesn't work that way. But anyway, I don't want to belabor all that. I want to get to everybody, and we've already kept people on hold, so let's make sure that we get to everybody and allow them their space about a half hour in, no twenty five minutes in, and I want to be as sharp as possible and again turn from thing to thing, and not to put anybody to sleep, because this

eight the Law and Order marathon. Okay, we're not doing courtroom drama today, although we might be forced to next week because Hunter Biden three right, three indictments, three felonies, more to come. They say, is it just because Jim Jordan's pressuring him. Well, if that's the case, I mean Jim Jordan's pressuring anybody that will listen. And that's a weird thing going

on in the hearings. Bye. The bye oh man, the back and forth and the sorry, but the pissing contest that just keeps happening in the House is crazy. Oh and that's right. They're also gonna impeach Biden. Now they got an inquiry, no vote as of yet, there's all that happening, McCarthy. And you know what are the Maga slash Freedom Caucus people say? Not good enough, McCarthy, You gotta do more. We might

still house yet. Okay, maybe that's true, maybe not. But Matt Gates, I'm going on his statements alone, sounds to me like, yeah, that ain't gonna cut it, McCarthy. So, yeah, you're gonna have to get more extreme on this. You're gonna have to go after Biden harder because if you don't, we're gonna get somebody in there who will. Seems like that's what they're saying, but you know, I could be misreading it. Do I care about any of that at this point? No,

because it's gonna play out. We'll probably see some sort of, you know, action on the impeachment. Will we see anybody ever held accountable? Actually that's always the major question. I don't know. And Sunday Sloper I'm trying to avoid going a courtroom this week again because I don't want to do courtroom. I think I commented on this already. Plus I have another loose topic to be discussed, and if we can get there, i'd really like to

because it's a social issue. It's a way of handling people issue, and it's come up a few times privately, and I want to express a few things about it publicly, which have to do with the way that people treat other people. And I think it's extremely relevant, and it seems to be coming up in other people's lives that I'm talking to off air, and so

I think I'm starting to think it may be a prevailing theme. Why is it that you have certain dysfunctions in certain interactions and relationships with other people? It could come down to a very simple word, and one that is not

often used properly. It seems like in our general nomenclature out there, it's not named properly what it is. And people have very weird ideas about what you're supposed to acknowledge about who they are, or give to them or grant to them as a part of what they are entitled to et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, maybe we'll get into that also. So let's go to the callers now, and our first one up is I believe Harlan. Harlan,

how you doing that? Well? I was just about to start eating a piece of pizza that you know, usually, I mean, you monologue for about thirty minutes. So sorry time I got loaded and got one here. But I tell you what I am going to I'm gonna play the role of a of a Jimmy James, and we're going to pretend that all this

politics is just what that MAGA says. Oh, I'm going to set and tell everybody that Matt Gates is going to help save this country try, even though that he should have never, you know, went along with McCarthy to start with. Yeah, impeach Joe Biden. Impeach McCarthy to be honest of you, I'd rather see I'll jokes to decide. I'd rather see him true

Kevin McCarthy out on his ass with Joe Biden. Joe Biden, I on my side, no way, yeah, yeah, he's not even pretending to be on your side, right, I mean, so, I don't know what to say anymore. Matt Gates will save the country. Well, maybe George Santos, that guy will have something to do with it too. I liked his little piece this week where he started arguing with somebody on CNN.

I think it was uh, you know, they brought him on to disgusted up and then he started just yelling at the reporter, why don't you ask Joe Biden some questions about Hunter Biden? Why don't you ask him about that instead of asking me about, you know what my charges that are against me, and if I'm gonna cut a deal, why don't you do that?

And I went, wow, okay, And that's the guy, by the way, in case you forgot about him, you know, And I'm not taking up Harlan's time here, but Harlan, this was the guy about uh you know what was it. He's the cross dresser in Brazil and he's got charges he's supposed to be scamming people. The famous thing at the veteran and the rescue dog. Right, So that went on this week too, along with the rest of the circus. I never heard that. I thought that

was a guy that New York get out of him. And then there was some kind of controversy. But he was a big liar, and yep, I never did hear about the cross drifts, and you know, and the dog, I don't don't know. I'm trying to I'm trying to start cleaning my language. But you know, since where I right here, I didn't know, you know, he was a molest and the dog or allegedly was or oh, I didn't know. I didn't. I didn't say he was molesting a dog. Wait a second, I want to get this straight.

I didn't say molested, Harlan. I didn't say molested. What it was is that some veteran was trying to raise money to take care of his dog. It was sick, you know, one of those dogs that he got and was like a comfort animal. And then he allegedly took the money that was raised to help the dog and ran away with the money and the dog died. And that guy has now come out and you know, said, hey, look this guy's a liar and a scumbag, and he took my

money and he took and he let my dog die. And this kind of thing that was one of his controversies. And then also he's allegedly like some sort of drag artist that does stuff, you know, cross dresses in Brazil or something where I think they're charging him also in Brazil with some other crimes. He's got a few things going on. And yeah he did win uh you know election out of New York, of course, hell yeah, but hell I thought, you know, Brazil's working a lot of the Crouse drifts

and then the Trandy stuff started. But never forget when it comes to anything, you know, from conservatives that you know, it's always an attitude of you know, our fill in the blank is better than the Democrats. So sad is he's a Republican or you know, lat means that he's a better cross dresser downe a Democrat cross course, Well, you know what, he's probably not as extreme a cross dresser as a Democratic cross dresser. You know,

he's he's not he's not going to go do story hour. He keeps it where it belongs, in an adult club where they don't allow children. Probably is the excuse I'm thinking, Harland. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that makes it better, and that makes it better. I mean, looks go down them. I agree, Harland. I especially support your right to cross dress if that's what you choose. I want you to know that. Well, well, yeah, you know, I've got a funny story here, and this is a gospel. It

happened name. I was in a restaurant sitting next to this eighty four year old gentlemen. Yes, and we've been sitting there talking, you know, for a little while. I get out a truck. I walked over inside the restaurant and anyway, I'm sitting down. Here comes this old guy, you old cowboy, and we was sitting there talking a little bit. He couldn't hear that good and I just you know, I had my short zone anyway, and I just drove my boots on you know western you know style,

no low heeled chawboy boots. And we were sitting there talking in the gentleman, you know, right before the food come out. He said. They said, he said to ask you something. I said, yeah, he said, Now, I'm not trying to be hateful. Said, it's one thing sitting here, you know, us talking everything. But I just got most I said, what's that? And he came lean back and he looked under the table. He said it was kind of like up at the counter in the front. He said, are you queer? And I started

laughing. He fell and all of a sudden, he said, where are you from? I said, Tennessee's nah? He said, you ain't queer? Now I didn't. I didn't have the heart to tell him in efforts, you know, because I he assumed that, you know, there's no homosexual or anything like that, you know in Tennessee, not that I'm one

of. And if you are, that's fine. But anyway, short so shorts and boots, Yeah, shorts and boots caused him to ask you if you were homosexual, and once he heard if you were from Tennessee, said, oh, never mind. Okay, that's it. Now, let me just ask real quick before you carry on. I got one more part. I got one more part. Okay, good, Ye's over, he said, he said. You know, he said, I don't have any problems,

you know, with talking to queer people. He said, I just don't want to say it here and they eat and be thinking about That's what I gonna understand. People will not order, but go ahead. Yeah, I don't want to be sitting and eating thinking about queer people either. Uh. It's usually not what I'm thinking about when I'm eating. But okay, fair enough, fair enough. Now now I'm just wondering was he asking He was just asking to make sure that you weren't going to disturb his meal.

I guess because you would have been disturbing his meal if you were. Is that is that the idea you got? Or well? I pretty much begger? Do you know that? Yeah? You know, one of us are gonna have to get up moved. And he was eighty four, and he had a cane, and you know he was probably armed on top of it. That's been making me do it, you know what I mean? You should have sat there in ordered a couple of hot dogs. That would have

deal with him crazy. You know, if you if this interaction had happened in New Jersey, I'm very very sure that one or the other one, somebody would have piped up and said, why are you looking for a date? And not even if they were actually looking for a date or wanted a date, just they would have made that observation. I'm you know, to the to the guy. They might ask him, you know why you asking him that you're looking for a date. What's going on? You're cruising?

Uh? Yeah, Harlan, I gotta tell you. I see other people are putting you on as I guess you're coming on with your video camera on some other shows and stuff, because you tell a hell of a story. When you tell a story. I love it, really glad that you call into us because I would have no idea that I was going to get treated to the I'm wearing shorts and boots and this guy wants to know if I'm queer. I would have never imagined that Harlan was going to call in with

that story tonight at all. It's it's great. I love it. It's random, it's completely it's in the spirit of this show. It's perfect. Thank you, I really it's it's absolutely priceless. B P. Do you disagree with me. I'll tell you what you know. Old people, I've noticed they're really they're they're they're getting a lot more brave. There was a day where people of a certain age wouldn't even broach the subject. But I

guess, you know, keeping up with society. The older people cracked me up that when they start talking about some of the like this Dylan Wilvain, anything I heard a friend of mine's great Oncole he must be in his God damn near ninety, and he was going awful about I just don't get it. You think, get the board, wear a dressing five one that fit him better, and we're just diet. That's hilarious. See. I think it's more. It's actually very common. I don't think it's a new thing.

I think you get to a certain age and you decide I got nothing left to lose, screw it, I'll say what I want exactly. That's one thing exactly. And the other thing you said, once they find out people are kind of receptive to their opinion, they offer it on everything exactly. Especially Look, when you encourage people Twitter exist, doesn't it When you encourage people to share their opinions, whether they are you know, actually their

opinions or they're just trying to share it to get a reaction. Once they get reactions, they're encouraged. They often continue to do so. So that's the way of the world. I'm gonna put Harlan on hold and i'll bring you back. Harlan, go ahead and eat your pizza. I want to make a funny note since you mentioned the mulvaney thing, and I was thinking about that bud light thing earlier this week. Another thing came up in the news, and I'll just mention it here before I go to the next caller.

I found it funny, I said, when this was happening, I said, you know what, bud Light just got itself a bunch of free promotion and a whole lot of people who felt that there should be a backlash to bud Light. This is before Kid Rock got busted drinking a bud Light. Again. We're saying, oh no, they're gonna pay for this because they just pissed off their actual customers. Da da da. Well, interesting thing in the market shares that has come as a result of the you know,

backlash to the bud Light cans for the influencer. Who is the transitioning influencer or transitioned or is it past tense? Are they still in process? I don't know. I don't even want to learn what the proper tenses. Anyway, It's interesting because in protest, a lot of people have switched and gone to another popular beer and said I refused to buy bud Light. And what have they gone and bought? Looks like according to market Shairs MODELO,

which oddly enough, is you know, seen as okay. Their commercials they made a point. Look, we're the beer of immigrants, We're the beer of struggling people. We're the beer of other people, right number one? Number two, Guess who distributes MODELO anyway? Anhuser Busch, the same people that benefit. So all they did is switch the market share from one brand to another under the same corporate umbrella. That's the actual fallout in market share.

And I find that hilarious. MODELO grew in sales almost you know, commensurate with the alleged loss in sales that bud Light suffered. MODELO grew according to one of these You know, I don't know how accurate is I'm not a beer business guy. I mean, for all I know, somebody could have invented this chart and put it, but it seemed to be in a reputable place. It seemed to be an interesting report. They had data.

I don't know how accurate their data was or how it was collected. I just find it funny that somebody put out that article and I didn't see it picked up on by the mainstream or anybody else or alternative people, et cetera. Nothing. I saw nobody pick up on it, and I didn't even pick up on it really but puny. If that's actually what happened, you know, I'm assuming most beer drinkers didn't go, well, I'm just gonna stop drinking beer. They switched, you know, brands, And what did

they switch to? Well, more than likely they went to the store and if they were always accustomed to buying bud Light, they went, well, what else is here? And if MODELO is in mass, available in as many places as bud Light, and it's prominently displayed, it could be that somebody said, well, that's an alternative to bud Light because it doesn't say

bud wise. I think something I read that most of Anhauser Bushes original brands picked up sales as well, Michaelo Blight, Natural or not Natural Light, bush Light, and there was one other one that they had actually picked up sales as well, so you know they yeah, they blew the bud Light brand. It's amazing though, how it went from number one to the seller so quickly. But yeah, they're not hurting too much. They're picking stuff

up on the other end. So that's say lost a little bit. But like you know, people were saying the places they're gonna they did sell off a bunch of brands though, Yeah, so that they could concentrate on distributorship of Mandelo and take up the increase in that they did, they unloaded four or five smaller brands that they had purchased and some let those go. So

yeah, and soft drink brands shuffle themselves all the time. I mean, you can note now that what is it Pepsi or Coke has a new No, it's I think it's the Pepsi co has a new attempt to compete with Sprite's called Stars or Stars, you know, just like they had cra missed and they had this and that and the third thing to try and compete with Sprite and uh, you know, and Coke will try and compete with the Mountain new brand. And in different parts of the country, Coke or Pepsi

might be distributing Doctor Pepper. There's a you know, there's always shuffles, and there's strategic moves. And I'm assuming I know Beer does this too, and they come up with new brands every once in a while, or they buy up, you know, some other brand, take it over and like a company like Anneuser Bush I'll turn around, buy up some smaller brand and make it into the new thing. I don't remember MODELO really existing up until a couple of years ago. I'm sure it did, though, because they

say I think it. It's been around since whenever, you know. But again, it's just one of those things we've got this, it's new, it's different. I figure you've got to change things up now and then, and different things market in different ways. So h and I might be joining

a nature boy into the conversation shortly. But in the meantime, I've got another caller on the regular phone line, so I want to get to him, let him get his five minutes in, and who knows, maybe maybe he's got something to change directions here, and maybe he's got something better to add or I really hope you don't want to go courtroom drama, Jimmy James, but it's up to you and you're live, bro, go ahead to me, James, the formally honorable league act and courtroom talker toward the Friday

night show. Oh okay, well you might return because we're gonna have a lot of courtroom on there. Well, we're gonna have a lot of courtroom action, a lot of courtroom action coming up in the next few months and over the course of the next year. I guarantee it one way or another, between impeachment, indictment, Trump, Biden, Hunter or Joe. I'm telling you there's gonna be a lot of national headlines to be had, plus all the other courtroom dramas. So yeah, it'll be there. But I

don't know. I'm already kind of exhausted from it. Maybe you're not. Maybe you're into it, or you know, maybe you're into some of it. Up to you. What can I say? I can't control that, but god, I just I don't want to be watching Law and Order marathon's really in, you know, real time. So what else is on your mind? Or do you want to talk courtrooms? Go ahead, all right, I'm just gonna power Man two thousand to this. H Yeah, don't. I don't. Don't watch this court crap. You don't need to.

There's plenty of openly available intelligence, some stories looked up the news headlines. Look what's the leak. It's very obvious who's up guilty of what? And as far as Trump, he's gonna go to the Supreme Court and that stuff's gonna go bye bye. Uh. Now, Harlan who spoke to this, My name is in Vaine. I must speak to this. Of course, all I could say is, holy smokes, you think I support Matt Gates.

I was going to ask, yeah, but you don't know. No, No, I was gonna ask I I thought you wouldn't be in support of Matt Gates. But I was going to ask you if you were, because maybe maybe I missed something properly. Okay, now you exactly So why would I like Matt Gates? So I guess I'm just want to go through and explain what is it that Jimmy James believes and what doesn't he believe. I recently had Aaron Frances Aaron Frons expressed his belief and I think I can

say this and I don't know. Would you agree with this, Chuck? I would say Aaron's pretty much, as far as his political beliefs, a mainstream Democrat. No, he's not. It's just that it sounds that way right now because he's particularly agitated with And it's weird because normally Aaron, to my experience, is not highly politically partisan at all. He's usually not. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, Well, would you say the average the average guy in the street. I mean, if you just grabbed a Democrat,

would his political beliefs beliefs be all that different than Aaron's. Not the ones that you know, the ones that Aaron expressed the past two weeks, I would say, are very typical Democrats, sounding points, talking points. I mean, I'm talking outside of you know, he's got his conspiratorial side, but outside of that. I mean, this is a guy that even took the COVID shots, right. I don't recall whether Aaron took him or not. Honestly, I don't remember. He took them and him and Uncle

were very angry that people were not getting them. Well Uncle day you know Uncle, Yeah, no, no, Uncle. Uncle is absolutely a believer in the shot, the all of it. Uh, I know, uncle is. But Aaron is not necessarily exactly in line with Uncle. Gohad. My impression is that they they're both pretty much exactly what the Democrat Party wants. And as far as their political beliefs, yeah, I mean, they believe what they hear in MSNBC is what I've after listening to them from a

few years, this is what I've come up with. Bush, by the way, is why I said that I thought he should interview Al Frankin because honestly, they're political blood brothers. Well, I'd like to interview Al Franken because I think it would be fun. And I've got major agreement and disagreement with Al Franken. In general. I kind of like Al Frankin. I think he got the shaft honestly with his political situation, doesn't He doesn't want to talk about that. He's a very weird dude. I don't know who

you talk too. And that's the thing. That's why I like him, because he's a weird dude. Sorry, but go ahead, continue on. I mean, look, Aaron I in my experience previously, I would say I wouldn't know where Aaron lands. If you would listen to the show to past two weeks, though, you know, you'd have to say. He's sounding Democratic for sure. And Uncle is a true believer in the system, you know. But but Uncle and Aaron are not necessarily of the same political

cloth. So but yeah, religious, Well, so it's interesting that Aaron said, and and I think that most Democrats believe this. Uncle is also Yeah, sorry, uncle, you know, I want you to finish, but I just want to Uncle's a devout Catholic too, which is his personal thing. Yeah. But but but again I would say Aaron Aaron is not a devout Catholic in my mind. Uh. But but then again I could

be wrong. I never defined him that way, but but the past two weeks he couldn't say that he sounds like anything other than a very left wing guy. But but he also said very angry. My point was that he said it's his belief of so what he calls Republicans. Maybe he said mago, which I guess that means you vote for Trump, believe in Q. And I just want to say that I do not believe in Q. I do not care for Matt Gates. I'm not even a Republican, Harland.

I am a constitutionalist, which is exactly the same as saying as I am a libertarian, because everything you've come to believe that should be given to you because you're a human and alive, was actually formed pretty much from our Bill of Rights and the way our founding father's thoughts. So I am a constitutionalist libertarian because this we're what we live in. We do not live in a democracy, and I wish people that could say that. And so I am not to the right. I am not to the last I am the exact

correct center. I look at the Constitution and I look at the facts, and that's what I try to go by. Now, if one party is so far out of whack that I can't do nothing about that, all I could say is that right now, the Democrat Party, for whatever reason, wants to destroy this country, and voting that way or not voting, you're enabling that. This is now that's my analysis. And I might I add that this is crazy calling me. I mean, there's a lot of people

that are more like me than they're coming around this stuff. Joe Rogan, Roseanne bar even Alan freaking Dershowitz, Everyone's I mean, whatever, this new Left, whatever you want to call it. No, that doesn't speak for me. But for God's sakes, Mark Matt Gates, sir as hell doesn't speak for me. That's why I get there. That's a big that's a big positive on your side. Jimmy. Look, I'm gonna put you on hold though, and try and bring you back around in the next part.

I think we should go to a break right now. I've got a caller waiting on Skype, so I'm gonna bring him in during the break and we'll continue on, although I will say that, you know, just as listening to you, though, I gotta say, if somebody thinks that your right wing, I would not argue with them either, because that's the way you sound from an outsider's perspective. I mean, just like a lot of times

people say I sound like I am one way or another to them. It's not necessarily what's in my heart or in my mind, but I sound that way to them nonetheless. And I've been blamed for being a right wing nut job because oh, I believe a gun is a tool and a bunch of other things like that, and no, I'm not on board with the mask the shot, and they call me right wing for that. Now more often

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So in the break, three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six is the number to call in. But in the break nature Boy joined us. So I want to turn it over to him on Skype for a minute. Let him get in whatever it is he wants to get in here. If you have naked news, hold it though, nature Boy, because I just want to give you a open form for a moment.

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That's what time it is. That's what day it is, and that is the week that was. So Nature Boy, what's on your mind this week? And again be Pete in the on deck circle and the weenie dogs making a ruckus. Maybe missus Oa came through the door out there in the other part of the house. Sorry, I'm gonna turn off the weenie dog noise and turn it over too. Nature boy, what's on your mind? Man? Well, good evening, gentlemen. How you doing out there? Be Pete? Are you there? Oh? Good deal? How are you?

My friend? Well? And you would I am quite well. I had a beautiful sunset kayak last night on the lake and in going on probably not say, four to six hour kayak trip tomorrow morning. Well it starts in the morning, but in the afternoon. So hey, if the if the good Lord came a knocking with a grim reaper hand in hand and says it's your time, I'd be cool. I'd be cool. There you a b p Are you they both didn't show up at the same time? Yeah?

Be You know if that's if that's the double date that you're going on, you know, it might bother you or it might not. I mean, I wouldn't mind, I guess, But interesting you got. You got a vibe off a nature boy right now? Right? He sounds relaxed to me. Are you really relaxed? Yes? It's Friday afternoon and gentlemen aren't evening evening for you, but late afternoon for me. So yes, he sounds

very relaxed. He sounds extra relaxed right now. I'm sorry, I don't mean interrupted, but you paused so but but by all means, go right ahead. If there's anything else besides kayaking you want to throw in here, You got a couple of minutes left? Good? Not not really, I just want to call in because I always like hanging out with you guys. I mean it's kind of like the highlight of a long week. But a couple of things I do. The whole controversy what you were talking about earlier,

about the bud Light moddelo. I think that's how pronounced it, right. Thing. Yeah, it just when you look at it from a high perspective, right, and you understand what they did, like you said, check because they sacrificed one brand for the other. And I find it funny. And granted, I don't hang out with people who drink bud Light no event, so I'm not being snobbish. It's just none of my friends like

that crap. But it would just I would just have to sit there and might keep my mouth shut, might not And look at somebody drinking a MODELO with a Trump shirt on, talking shit about bud Light and Dylan mulvaney. It's just like my God, in my mind's eye, I would be looking to going, do you realize the con that you are participating in? You stupid? Cool? You know, honestly, the only thing you did is you did you hurt Anne Heuser Busch or the parent company that did that?

No? No, you actually increased it because now you're probably drinking more modello than you would normally do, just to prove how much of a advocate you are against bud Light and Dylan mulvaney. Meanwhile, the parent company's stock price keeps going up and up up. Maybe we should ask you, Uh, Ryan Ryan? Uh? Wasn't there Dawton Dawson? No, No, Will Woods? Ryan Woods? Lady Maga? Uh? Maybe would you ask him or if you know in full dress her, I guess Uh. I don't

bring on Lady Maga. I bring on Ryan Woods. I know, but I'm just saying we could ask either one of them though what beer they drink? I mean it might we might get two different answers. Is that possible. Well, Ryan does not drink. He's a recovering alcoholic and he has almost a year under his belt right some time, right, No, I was bringing it up because I was just thinking, is there a preferred beer? But you're right. I remembered that now because he did mention that.

I asked him about it having a drink with me at some point and he said, yeah, I would, but I don't anymore because he was having troubles there for a little bit, drinking a bit. Yes he was, Yeah he was, So he was, and he's you know, his life is better. But I mean back in the day. And keep in mind, everybody out there listening, I am straight, okay, but I have had gay friends. And I had a girlfriend who, as she said, not my words, her was a fag hag extraordinary and she was she was

beautiful, and she had tons of gay friends. So, okay, we're going out to gay bars occasionally. And I remember one that we would go out in Seattle and they had paps, I think it was paps on Sunday for fifty cents a cup, a mug, not a mug, but a cup, right, And that's all that we drank in every other person in that club. Granted they were probably like me, you know, the fag hags, old man, a couple of us hanging around, but the majority

of people were gay and boys. They just drank that stuff. Let's go tomorrow and if school as heck, because you can go out, say I'm gonna go buy around and have a five drink limit, right and you go up and buy a full round and you give the bar tender two dollars fifty cents and then just give her another fifty cents as a tip, right right, Well, yeah, absolutely, yeah, it's it's funny. A theme

is emerging from tonight. It's like gay story night between Harlan and the guy asking him at the restaurant if he was queer because he was wearing shorts and boots and now your gay story. Gotta say, it's interesting, but you know, it reminds me of something I found recently in my research on on my My my former you know, musician years. And if you take a look at this ad I just dropped in into the Skype chat. Maybe I'll

drop it in the chat at o'chelly dot com as well. Uh, the ad is funny because there's something on there and when I was twenty one, I went out to nickelber Night at the fast Lane two in Asbury Park and on my twenty first birthday, and what they would do is you put a dollar on the bar and these little tiny plastic cups they would line up twenty of them for you. So twenty little beers and uh yeah, that and a picture of Red Dead was my twenty first birthday present from my band.

As I got completely plastered when I went out to the fast Lane too, So I was just thinking of that since you mentioned fifty cent beers. Uh, some places do promotions like this. They didn't even tell you what kind of beer it was at the fast Lane too, but you know, at a Nickel and it's a little cup. I mean it's not much. It's a little you know what, double triple size shot class maybe, but still it just reminded me of that. I figured i'd share that ad with you.

If you look at the bottom there, I think it's got the nickel bas Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. I mean it sounds like the dim sums for alcoholics, Yeah, right, doesn't it though? It's just perfect and it's like, you know, if you go there with a couple of dollars. Though, you can hang out and drink your little cups for a while, couldn't you. You can get pretty hammered on ten bucks. Yeah, pretty well. See, And that was the point of it

back then in the nineties, So I thought it was. I just thought it was cool and wanted to bring it up. Matter of fact, I think I have another I'll drop in the chats. Let's see. Yeah, here it is, and it's I cut it a little bit, but I think it's still got the nickel beer thing at the bottom again from the show that I opened for Gig Allen, And I found the ad for the show

and sort of edited it together. And I'm actually thinking of in the future maybe putting it as part of a T shirt design because the fast Lane two doesn't exist anymore. It was, you know, not the historic club that the Stone Pony was. It was like always the second Banana in Nastbury Park. But anyway, nas you boy, good to hear from you. We'll get back to you in a little bit. We might get to naked news.

But be Pete has a news story. Are you ready to roll Be Pete with the news story that you came up with and what it is we were talking about before we went to air. Believe it or not, it was part of our ten minute delay. Is this the quick discussion and another one we were having Do you have that ready? Yes? This was a headline that it hit me while I was cruising the list right before we went on, And it's pretty amazing when you think about it. I don't know

how much you're going to hear of this in the mainstream. This is twenty four years wiped from life expectancy of fully boosted men, study shows. So I'm gonna read this short passage here, it says. An explosive new study has revealed that American men who have been fully boosted with COVID shots will suffer a staggering twenty four year loss in their life expectancy. Researchers have analyzed the official data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the UK government

to determine the long term effects of mRNA injections. The study sought to weigh the balance of risk for the vaccines by establishing how long the negative side effects take to reduce over time after a person receives each dose. However, the researchers found that the damage doesn't lessen over time, and instead it remains indefinitely

increased with each shot. The CDC All Cause Mortality data has shown that each vaccine does increase mortality by seven percent in the year twenty twenty two compared to the same figures for twenty twenty one. So this was twenty twenty one was the first year they pushed these things out, So I'll take that back twenty twenties when they first pushed it out. So twenty twenty one is really the first full year of data that they have, so they compared that to twenty

twenty two. I'm curious how they got to it. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm curious how they got to a twenty four year mark there, because what you're saying, in essence, is that people's life expectancy, or men's life expectancy, according to this study, is reduced by twenty four years, considering that people would have had shots, you know, forty eight to twenty four months ago. I'm wondering how they're coming to this idea, this figure. That's a curious thing I'd like to see, But is it true?

Yeah? Good, I'll throw the link for this in the room, it's just the data revealed that each year, every vaccinated person becomes more and more likely to die at a rate of seven percent per dose per year. This means that the MURNA vaccines and booster shots are slow acting genetic poison, according

to the study. To study also found that the human body cannot recover from any amount of mRNA injections, So taking twenty twenty one is the baseline, a person who has received five doses would be three hundred and fifty percent more likely to die in twenty thirty one, seven hundred percent more likely to die in twenty forty one, and a thousand and fifty percent more likely to die in twenty fifty one than an unvaxxed person. And they go in to break

this down it says it's just like compound interests. Using this result, we can calculate the loss in life expectancy for thirty year old mail. If we take the average life expectancy for the US, UK and Canada minerags spected to lived to around eighty years old today, life expectancy does not increase over time, but we can use eighty as a baseline for comparison. Based on today's life expectancy data, a thirty year old unvaxxed mail should expect another fifty years

of life. The findings from the studies show that the life expectancy of a thirty year old fully vaccinated person two vaccines and three boosters is now just fifty six years. And the data is analyzed compared to the number of vaccines. The study shows one shot reduced the life expectancy of a thirty year old man by thirteen years. Five shots reduced the life expectancy of a thirty year old

man by twenty four years. Meanwhile, dated on COVID nineteen infection rates for the first ninety eight days from September twelve, twenty twenty two, was taken when the five valent vaccine was first offered to the Cleveland clinic employees. It's amazing, you know, these we're starting to finally see things in some of these studies that they're running. And here we have the government. They're running

ads on our local broadcast television stations. Especially in the early morning. You might see four or five reminding you that you have a place to get your shot, and they want everybody to do it by October when flu season kicks in. It's amazing, you know what's coming out. I'm gonna put this link to this article, and there is a link in the article to the study, so you can go there and dissect it yourself. Yeah, I always want to look at it for myself. For sure. I got an

immediate instant comment. Oh, then that now makes sense as to why you might drop dead at fifty If you reduce your life by twenty four years and you take a shot at fifty five, maybe that's why people drop dead right away. That's not my comment, that's somebody else's. But I get where you're going, and I've said, I don't know what any of this is

going to result in. It's strange though, to me to say that, you know, they have this predictability about the future, because quite often these scientific predictors, you know, not saying that I disagree, but I am saying that a lot of times that you know, look forget about global warming, and we should have been underwater according to some stuff I read when I

was in middle school, et cetera. But you know, a lot of these scientific predictors where they say we're gonna be at this we're gonna have that, this is going to be available. People are gonna be like this, this is going to change. By this date, have not come to fruition, and some things have not saying it's a crapshoot and not saying they can't predict things like this. But man, this is an ugly, ugly thing, especially if there's nobody taking their foot off the gas regarding the the the

the push forward, the drive to get people to take these shots. I don't want it. I make my choice. You could make yours all you want, But man, what the hell is going on? You know? And this isn't the conspiracy theorist on Facebook who made a comment. This is a study, So I guess we got to look at that too. I don't know. Maybe everybody wants to comment on that as we go forward, and we might have a new caller or two, or maybe it's just one of the Nope, we do have a new caller on the line, and

we might want to get back around to everybody else. But b Pete, you got anything else you want to put in here, or you know, or you want to add to this or add something else to the discussion, go ahead, Well, I mean, there's really nothing to add to this. I haven't had a chance to greet through the study yet and see how they went about it, but it will be interesting and we can always saw comment on it next week or the next time the subject of the shock comes

up. But there's another article here, and it's confusing. They're talking about this new video from nine to eleven who has been discovered. Apparently this guy uploaded this video twenty years ago and never realized that he left it as private, so nobody was seeing it. And apparently he opened it up for public view sometime last year. But it's just finally making the rounds and I'm surprised

I had not heard anything on this. But this is a view taken from a boat south of the towers, and it shows the one tower struck. And about two minutes into this video, it shows the plane hitting the south tower. Where's a clear shot. I mean, it's amazing how clear it is. Yeah, purely I'm gonna post that in there, purely, Yeah, please do, but purely out of curiosity. Where did he upload this twenty years ago? Because if you go back twenty two, two thousand and

three, because twenty years time mean I mean not. Yeah, he posted it, says let me let me see because I'm not sure if YouTube was in two thousand and three. It might have been. I mean, I could be you know, I'm I don't think it was around, was it? Yeah? Definitely? You know what, I'm gonna look that up because to me, I think YouTube came around a couple of years later. But maybe I'm just wrong, but I'm gonna go just look it up and see

what. You know, what a quick search shows us on the internet, because I know it was around in like two thousand and eight, because that's when I got in and it seemed to me like it was a new thing. But I might have just been well behind the times. You know. When when did it come into existence? Did it come into the wonder what the official story is there? Okay, so I'm just asking the internet, so to speak. Five. Yeah, Valentine's Day of two thousand and five.

Curiously, according to more than one source, that's when they started. So, like I said, all right, so let me get you look in the article because it mentioned that it had been uploaded. Yeah, That's what I'm wondering, is he could have uploaded it to some other I mean he could have put it on my space or something my space might have existed. Then uh, he could have uploaded it just to a certain the video.

Yeah, let's see. The video was filmed by Kevin Wesley, combat veteran who served in the two thousand and three Iraq Wars and aircraft commander while I stood on the boast round of eye crowd of stunt spectators. According to the National World, the footage of initially centers on the flames and gulf in the North Tower. He said, I posted this video in the two thousands, but accidentally left it private until now I noticed the video was private and

made it public. Right. So he says in two thousands, it doesn't say it doesn't it okay, So it doesn't market exactly. So it could have been two thousand and five on YouTube because he's not saying directly precisely when see. Interesting thing about that is, as I told you before we went to air when you mentioned it, I recall seeing a video that was reportedly filmed from a boat battery park all that, and it doesn't make the rounds.

I noticed it didn't make the rounds, but it was something, you know, it was a little bit of a tighter exchange of information at one point where remember I talked about file sharing last week and how we used to some of us intentionally did that on LimeWire and stuff like that as far back as nineteen ninety nine, and we would directly share our video, audio, etc. Or even text files with each other directly. Some of it you could source from the file sharing services. Okay, And I have this crazy

idea that at some point early days, I saw this already. I know I saw it, but I didn't see its surface. Again. I didn't see it used in documentaries. I've seen every other of the other angles and the different camp quarters, and the one guy filming from his balcony and the other guy who's down in the park. You know, I've seen all that over the years repeatedly. But I recall seeing this in a limited fashion at

some point. Maybe I'm misremembering it because I don't have exact details, but it's just one of those things that was being shared earlier on and even before I got really deeply interested in two eight and nine to eleven, I was looking at video footage and going back over it as a historical event. I just it took me several years before I started asking any significant questions about it.

But I was looking at that video and looking at the replace and looking at the New York stuff, and that was some of the first I was even sharing more of that and picking up more of it and downloading more of it than I was JFK stuff in ninety nine and two thousand, like I was picking up JFK stuff then, and then in two thousand and one when the event happened, I was starting to pick up more nine to eleven video

than I was JFK stuff. So that's what I was doing. And I recall this at some point I wish I could put my finger on it. Maybe somebody else remembers this from elsewhere, maybe not. Maybe I'm just imagining it in my head. And this isn't true, And this is truly this guy forgot had it on private all these years and was wondering why nobody wanted to see his nine eleven take. I don't know. Yeah, he made it like last year, I don't know it. Like I said, I

can't believe I've not heard of this or run across it. With some of the search things that I have out there to pull in articles like that, but I've not seen this footage before, and I've got to admit it is one good clear shot of that plane hitting the building. It's it's amazing. I don't remember the clarity on it, but it was you know some of those things, you know, there's varying clarities. I mean, some of it is VHS greeny as hell, clearly they used the reuse tape, and

some of it is better. You have the film footage from the two brothers who were making the what was it latter one documentary. I mean, there's a variety of footage available out there, so it all after a while does become a bit of a blur. But I yeah, you got the link to it in the room at o'chelly dot com. Yeah, okay, I just put it in. I've looked at it once. It's about two minutes in is when the plane shortly after two minutes, like two minutes and some

odd seconds, it's good. Yeah, about two h five you start seeing the plane and had just be lines right into the corner of the building. Yeah. I gotta say it looked like he was trying to turn to hit more towards center when he caught the corner no matter how many times, Yeah, no matter how many times I view that footage or catch it as part of a movie or a rush or whatever. I just see it on TV around anniversary time or I gotta tell you, no matter what, it's always

jarring to me to see the video. So we have a fresh caller on the regular call lines. We could have more three one nine five two seven five zero one six. I know Jimmy, James and Harland are still on hold. So I'd like to get to the new caller if you don't mind, be Pete. But if you've got something else, I mean, we could go to that next sure, Now go ahead and bring him on in.

Yeah, let's do that and give him his first five minutes and see if we can get back around everybody else, because we got a little bit of time left in this broadcast, this open mic Friday night. So three one nine five two seven five zero one six. If you want to join joined me by a skype, I'm Charles don o'chelly, But you gotta send me a message and I can call you in Nature Boys on the skype still, and who knows, maybe we'll get to more thoughts from nature Boy his

thoughts on this video. Maybe you guys are checking out the video while I'm talking, if you caught it from the chat room at ochelli dot com. But in the meantime, let's go to another familiar caller on the line, and that would be Advance. How you doing man? Had no problem? Yes, absolutely, I was just about to join back in because I'm like, okay, you must have your mute button depressed, but how are you

doing nice? I'm pretty good. I actually had my headphone the headset on opposite and I would to grab for the mic and it was on the other side. I was like freaking out yet trying to get switching around. So other than that, I'm doing fine. I caught I caught off guard. So look, anything that's on your mind is fair game, obviously, if you've been listening, there's plenty of possibilities you could go into. I know we're going to do courtroom drama some weeks in the very near future, but

I'm trying to avoid it tonight. If I can, but the nine to eleven footage, or you could just have something completely fresh on your mind, I leave it open to you. This isn't topic driven this week exactly. So go ahead. Uh. You know, I definitely have been talking about the vaccine stuff lately, you know, where it's you know, getting to be kind of seems to be obvious that a majority of people aren't going off

for it the way they did last time, et cetera. And you know, there's the articles that y'all were reading about that I was reading, and I recently saw this video that was about what he called he was this guy was talking about the video he saw, you know, and in any way that the uh way they put it was we're in a you know, right right now, we're currently in a in a what's called a silent depression. And you know, in my mind, we've been in that depression, you

know, for at least twenty years. I mean, it's pretty much just been a lingering side effect of you know, the scam that they got going on, uh to you know, keep the economy looking like it's it's perfect and you know, all good and Dan did, and at the same time, you know, just uh uh sucking, you know, every little penny

they can out of everybody's pocket. And the UH in one of the the UH in nineteen seventeen, I think it was the average income of a family was forty eight hundred dollars a year, and if you've fast forward that to now that that I believe it was sixty eight or eighty eight thousand dollars.

And so technically, you know, we're poor now than than they were during nineteen seventeen, you know, and and because of the inflation and all that stuff, and and and looking just in my mind, you know, most of this stuff is not stuff that just couldn't be avoided and just lack of

imagination. This is the way the game is being played. And you know, they're currently with black Rock, and you know, all the mechanisms they got you know, uh, you know, making us poorer and poorer, and and it's just that virtue of the fact that we're we're still comfortable enough. We're still got the ac and the football and and you know, nobody's really you know, just oh well, it'll get better. And you know,

I can't worry about what you follow I'm saying. But any rate, with the vaccine stuff and everything, it's it's obvious and and uh, you know, there shouldn't be much question that the vaccine manufacture or is these vaccines. They've known that they were would kill people that it's it's been proven that you know, they they uh manipulated statistics and all that just to push this stuff on people to to you know, for profit. I mean, who

knows what it is? Is a genocide, you know, in my mind, that's what we have going on, is is a genide genocide from the people that you know, these non government organizations that decide all these rules and and you know, force these uh protocols on people that you know aren't elected by anybody. And so let I'm saying, it's not just an accident.

That's what we need to understand that they are actively uh you know, focusing on destroying is a big word, but he thought of what I'm saying, you know, it's it's it's time to just you know, accept that that's the that's the way this system is set up. And so we've got to stop this one way or the other, you know, and until you really understand, you know that, you know, this is all beyond just bad bad judgment. There is, in my mind and intent behind all this.

So I'll stop there no problem. Look the purchasing power and now I could not find the average income for a family across the country in nineteen seventeen. I have a breakdown by states, which would take me a while to explain, but what I did see is that the dollar in nineteen seventeen had the purchasing power equivalent today to anywhere from twenty four to twenty seven dollars, it

says, and that was your dollar in nineteen seventeen. And one would say, okay, that's one hundred years plus, you know, one hundred and six years. That's a long time. So let's go ahead and look at one dollar in uh, you know, in nineteen seventy two when I was born. Let's let's cut it in half. I'm, you know, fifty one. Well, I mean what you one dollar then? And and you said the equivalent of up to twenty four dollars now, well twenty four to

twenty seven depending on who you're looking at. Yeah, that's what they've a twenty four hundred percent increase something like that. But that's one hundred and six years, you know, equals. So let's see what it does in half that time equals to day. According to what I can gather just really quickly, let's see it says it's it's only seven or seven h seven to twelve. Okay, it looks like the range is from seven and change to just

about just over twelve dollars is the difference. So about half of that almost is accounted for. Maybe you go to twelve, if you go with the high number in the low number, you could say that almost half of that can be accounted for. In the past half century, it seems like that's incrementally just gone up according to you know, just about a regular fixed move there. But I would say that it doesn't feel this way. Okay,

the increase is pretty radical. It seems like in the past two years as opposed to the past fifty, you know, and it doesn't seem as incremental. So anyway, that's just my observation versus what data I could gather just you know, on the fly, goohead advancing what you were saying. And you know, I can tell you for sure. You know, in nineteen ninety I lived in Corpus Christi sixth Streets and Morgan, and that was six blocks from Motion Drive, you know, which was the Fans part of anyway,

it's an older neighborhood. It was a two story duplex that was eleven hundred square feet with hardwood floors and big bedrooms and the sun porch. And and I paid three hundred and eighty five dollars a month for rent. Oh yeah, and I was making four hundred bucks of weeks, so I could pay my rent with one paycheck, which was you know, supposedly a you know, that's the level of you know, yeah, well off you are

whatever that in that sense. And uh and after a year and a half it went up twenty bucks or twenty five to four ten and h So you know what's the cost of now you know that thirty years ago? It sounds like right, And well, I was just gonna say, going back to if somebody says, well that's regionally, that's Texas, I can tell you that the equivalent was basically true in New Jersey. I know, I've broken

it down before on this show about my first apartment. I was still in high school, but I finished high school living in my own apartment, and that was, you know, around nineteen ninety and yeah, that's about the same kind of thing. I think it took me a week and a half to pay for my rent, and then the following year I had like a twenty dollars increase in my rent something like that. It sounds very similar in

New Jersey to what was going on in Corpus CHRISTI. New Jersey is extremely expensive now in the type of place that I was able to get for under four hundred bucks a month back then, is you know, probably about thirty five hundred dollars or three thousand dollars today, which to me looks like a much larger increase in thirty years than the equivalent of the alleged purchasing power of

the dollar. But then again, it's New Jersey and corruption prevails, and uh, you know, you can thank Christy, and you can thank the switching back and forth Purple State for the way it's run. It's run like that, It's just the way it is. Anyways, Vans, I'm gonna put you on hold, though, and we got many things to consider. We still got other people we could get back around too. But putting Vans on hold doesn't mean that I'm not gonna bring him back, because I plan

on bringing everybody back around. So be Pete, where should we go to from here? Well, we can just start to circle head back to catch Jimmy or Vans still with us. Yeah, Vans and Harlan I have on hold along with Jimmy, and of course we have a nature Boy on the skype we have I think nature Boy has maybe a naked news piece if you want to go there. Uh, if you want to just go back around to commentary, see if anybody's got anything else to add, we could go

there. I don't know. I'm again. I'm just happy we're avoiding the courtroom drama and not repeating ourselves. So I'm thrilled. Uh so this is an interesting, eclectic night. But what do you think should we go naked news or what next? Yeah, we can, we can do a naked headline, a naked headline naked. I guess it's spelled differently. Interesting culture Tomato, Tomato tomatow. I was talking about a guy. A place in New Jersey had the most typical ridiculous name called Joey Tomatoes pizza place. Go

figure Joey Tomatoes. You know it was one of the worst places in Jersey, but boy, I would give anything to be able to get to it for food today. So it's phil Joey Tomatoes. I thought it was a ridiculous name and thought they would go out of business in about three weeks and yeah, they're still there about a decade and decade or so since they opened in one of the towns I used to live in. I don't know why

I thought of that. All right, tomato, tomato, he said, But anyway, speaking of things that might involve tomatoes or god knows what else. And you're obviously not going to cover the story like we did on the Sloper about the woman who had a quite the interesting stash in her in her well. I was gonna be lascibious there for a moment. The stash in her gash? How about that there? I did it on the Sunday Sloper Show where she had a variety of drugs and money and it looked like,

I don't know, a notebook and everything else hidden in her person. I guess we're not going to do that. But you got it. You got some stories you want to you want to read one just for the fitful record. It's referred to as a female prison purse. Prison purse a female prisoners and in some women, well you can get a lot in that purse. Sounds like that woman had one than purses. Well, some of them got

a Fannie pack, I guess, or a makeup case and others. They just might be walking around with a double bag, whether you know it or not. So it is what it is, and your experiences may vary. I think. All right, all right, okay, so I've got a couple of them, and they dug up here. Actually this week was pretty good. It didn't take that long of a search to find a couple of good ones here. And I'll read out the headlines and let you find gentlemen, tip, which one you want me to read? Pete? Wait a

minute, be Pete. I want you to select it on your own. I want you to be responsible for which headline we go with. Okay, all by yourself. Oh so I gotta pay attention now, Okay, yep, go ahead. Okay, this one's from our favorite state. I have to give myself a little the composer to give me a second here, okay, Florida most likely, Yes, good Florida man bites police dog. One of them was naked on meth and that comes from the New York Daily News.

Actually, we dogs are always naked. Wait a minute, dogs are always naked, and they're usually not on meths. So I'm assuming it's the dude, haven't we didn't. We have a man bites dog story a couple of weeks ago. Is this the same one or is this a new one? No? No, I've never had a man dog. This is actually quite unique. Okay, sorry, please continue. I just I thought for some reason it might be a repeat. But what what what do you?

What else you got? Okay? This is another one that I'm not sure where it comes from, but it is for oh Dayton, Dayton, so I'm assuming Dayton, Ohio. So it's from the Dayton Daily News. Police naked woman answers door to motel room meth lab. Okay, So, in other words, the picture I'm supposed to draw is somebody goes knox on a hotel room door, there's apparently a meth lab inside, and a naked woman

answered the door. Okay, fair enough. Well, actually it was the police that knocked on the door, so it was the police that were naked. The police were not naked though, right. Well, there there have been some of them, I imagine, but usually they didn't answer the door. They usually walk out with their uniforms on and took their tithe. You know, I don't know. Look, if cops show them naked, if

cops show up naked at my door, though I'm not answering it. Go ahead, be P. Sorry. If a cop is working a case at a newdest colony, where does he put his badge? He has a lanyard that he puts around his neck. Nice. I like how nature boy has an answer ready for that question. Okay, So if he's had to answer questions before, I just just saying, just saying, okay, good. What else you got a nature boy? Okay, I have another one? Yeah, and this is friendly. It just came out, PP, literally

when you said, it just rolled out and I went with it. That's all. This is from the Associated Press, the Script's National Desk. Not sure where that's from. Todd Marinovic, who was a former USC and NFL quarterback, was arrested after being found naked with drugs. Police report M. Former NFL quarterback. That's what you said, M. Yeah, okay, so BP, those that's the three choices, is right? Nature boy?

This is true? Okay, BP, do you have one? I know which one I want to hear about, but well, I wanted to hear about going you know, hey, I'm straight up I want to hear about the naked woman in the metal lab. That's that's the winner in my mind. If the story is too short, perhaps we'll go to the former NFL guy because it might be notable. But uh, but but if if not, yeah, I think I think we should roll with that one. I agree with you. I was gonna let you pick it anyway, so no

matter what you picked, that's where we were going. But but but I I concur with P. Pete's opinion on this. So Nature Boy, would you do the honors and read to us for it? And you've already put the link in the Ocelli chat room, right, I believe, yes, I actually put it in three times by mistakes. So oh that's in there in triplicate, Nature Boy, put it there, all right? Go ahead, yes, exactly? Yeah, I think you knew my name. You understand why I write with a hard pin. But we'll get into that.

Let me get to the article. Police naked woman answers door to motel room meth lab. Deputies busted a meth lab in North Orange County, Florida. Hey, our favorite state didn't even know motel room after a woman answered the door naked, The Orlando Sentinel reports Orange County deputies were called to Motel six Saturday to quote make contact with occupants unquote. The arrest report states, once the naked woman opened the door, later identified as Lindsay Snyder thirty six,

the deputies saw a black backpack on the bed. Snyder then closed the door to put the clothes back on, but when she came back to let the deputies inside, the backpack was gone. When investigators searched the room, they found tools to make homemade meth and phantom which get this ship, which included a funnel, coffee filters, brake fluid, and straws. They also uncovered a bottle full of cloudy liquid quote, which deputies quote immediately recognized as homemade

methynphetamine end quote. The Sentinel reports in all, they found one hundred and forty six grams of the drug. Snyder and another man in the room, identified as a Vassily floor in Chovinch thirty eight, both were arrested on charges of trafficking methynphetamine, manufacturing methynphetamine, and possessions of listed chemicals and also possession of drug paraphernalia. In the story alrighty well, there is a fascinating one bpt. Do you think we need additional commentary or should we go uh,

it's just straight from that story. I mean, do we need the NFL or should we just run with this one? What's your thoughts? And I'm gonna try and pick up a clip here real fast and kay, oh oh you got something else on jack? What's really quick? Just a quick little in cap on this. Would you like a war paint report, a war paint report? Describe a warpaint report for me and then yeah, good, ain't enough warpaint made in the world to make that skinky? Okay, lady

look good? I got you. So this is a scale by which we could maybe give it a paint job and but maybe not. So you're gonna give us a scale and give us an idea of what the circumstance is, what the situation is. Yeah, okay, okay, so ten ten, it's just like, wow, man, she's high. I don't care if she's snorting dope. Zero well, zero needs no explanation. I'm giving this chick about a four and a half. Okay, so zero would be busted on top of busted. You look at something and you go, I think

that was the table. But four and a half means it's recognizable as something, but yeah, not in good shape at all and definitely not ready to be taken home and immediately, uh you know, enjoyed. Nope, I kind of. I use a reverse scale. I call it my earl ship scale. So like you know, if they were Yeah, if it's Christine good looking car, you gotta do much to it. You're looking at the

ninety nine ninety five paint job. But if there's a lot of bondo work that's got to be done, and you know, I held a lot of sanding and grind and on top of the paint and primer, you know, you're looking at like a nine ninety nine ninety nine paint job. I'd say, clip, what about a bus seventy seven ninety nine ninety nine paint job? Maybe? Yeah, I put it around seven ninety nine. Nice, Well, look how bonda work. And I love Yeah, seven ninety nine.

You need a little bunda work, you know, no matter how much you polished the turd at earl size, and three months later, that's that's going to peel right off. So I'm just saying I'm reminded size. I like the scale, by the way, fair enough, and I'm reminded of this clip. You know, it does have to do with crack cocaine as opposed to meth. But still I think it stands from the movie New Jack City, which was which, yeah, it's not that good sound wise,

Okay, I thought it was a little better. But he was talking about the drug stories here, which well, which makes you crazier cracker myths? It depends on the person. I but look, I'm trying to play this clip real fast, so and I've got a playing while we got our mics open, so hopefully I can get this through this one part of it, Uh, where Pookie's describing to iced tea, I don't know if we're gonna hear it clearly, but he's describing the ice tea part of the operation of

the CMB in the movie New Jack City. Let's see what we can hear. Its back to the what's going on in this drugs well, I need to take the pace, okay, because here we go. All right, so he's here we go. He talks about the drug store. Here we go. I got the clip store that's to make the crack. It's crazy because I've heard they got to say everybody in every but still lean a little fustle pull anyway, that's Chris Rocket. It wasn't a good clip. I

tried to do it on the fly, but I messed it up. So he was talking about how they got to keep the women naked in there so they don't steal the crack while they're packaging it. But I was reminded of that movie clip as uh, nature boy was describing this. So with that, b Pete, do you want to comment or should we pass it around the callers to comment on the naked woman answering the door meths in lab in side story? Now let's kick it around and get everybody else to chime in

on fair enough. So that means if we go in order, we should get to Harland first, right, let's see. Yeah, Harlan first, good good bye? You sure? All right? So, Harlan, any comments you want to add on the naked woman answering the door and there's a meth lab in side story in Florida? Well? What was it up inside? Was it up in their pocket book? Was in the motail room? Nature boy? I defer to you here. No, he might be eating his tamali right now and with his mute button on, he was no,

I'm there, but it only mentioned a black backpack. That was all. Now we can assume a lot from maybe Chuck's previous story, but I don't think that was the case in this story. Maybe, I mean, could that be, well, you know, instead, it's just a purse or a pocket book at that you know, black, you know, Johnathan mccrons, I'm a black girl or not, I'm not feel a little bit behind them, you know. Yeah, I don't think it's a mobile meth lab

in the backpack, and I don't think she could possibly. I mean, listen, I'm impressed if she can carry that without the backpack, but you know, just saying uh, I mean, I look, I was already impressed with me with the girl you're ahead. Maybe she uses that to carry the backpack. That'd be a site. That's yeah, it might be. Mightbe you know, the sty and the gus you know, equals the pocket book and the backpack. You know, it might be the back could be,

could be. I guess you could describe that as a backpack, and for more than one reason, because you pack it in the back and yeah, okay, yeah that all works. Harlan absolutely a stude commentary and Uh, I love it. I would like I'd like to add that I think Harlan has set the record for a conversation swirling the bowl quick. This one went straight down the two. Oh no, hell no, no, no, no, Harlan's going on hold and we're going to give a shot to

Jimmy James about this one, because I think Jimmy can do better. Uh so, Jimmy James. Any comments on the backpack, the meth lab, the naked check girl shive? Whatever you want, go for it. What was the last Kurt Gurl shive? And the uh the war paint report or the earl Shive scale? Ceb Pete's got an earl shive scale. Nature Boy's got a warpaint what'd you call it a war paint report? Nature Boy? Right, Well, I asked if you wanted to war paint reports. Okay,

yeah, that would be a proper name. I guess. Okay, there you go. So and that and that is to determine exactly how much work it would take to you know, give it a paint job and maybe make it presentable. Except we're talking about you know, maybe a woman is opposed to a car. So there's that, and that's what the Earl Shive

mentioned was for. But you remember Earl Shive, right, they do paint jobs, you know, for a price something ninety nine, right, Jimmy James the spray through booths and then you gotta go part your car and that guy kind of like a car wash but with a spray machine. Yeah. Sure. Anyways, Yeah, any any thing you want to add here or talk about the naked News article at all or but yeah, I got enough. And then the broad in the hotel, ok Now Michael Moore, Now

Michael Moore, which came up earlier. Yeah, he sucks a lot, but I will give him credit for his first film, Roger and Mean Okay, which which did not suck, which was about him. I don't know how much you know about Michael Moore, but he started out a worker on assembly lines, and then he got into the union crap, and then he made this film while I guess he was still employed for one of the Big Three where he was following around Roger whoever there was the chairman of GM at

the time. I believe, Wait a minute, but wasn't he when he did his first movie. Hadn't he been working or writing for Mother? Was it? Mother? Jones. Oh, I can't remember, but it's interesting because that's one of your homies there, Jimmy James. Because the same state, Michigan, right, he lived there. He grew up in Flint, according to what I read, I think, right, yeah, And he worked at a car plant and everyone and in these plants are UAW members in

there and doctrinated. They're scent magazines every month called Solidarity and it's an apt name. Okay, it's a cart sup button it maybe so. But he was also a card carrying member of the NRA, too, wasn't he. Michael Moore, you gotta be kidding me, Michael Moore, I know not. No, I'm not kidding at all. He had a card that he showed and I thought it was legiti that he was an NRA member. Dude's paying NRA member. If he did, I'm sure he's got some sort of

evil agenda behind it. Oh maybe, but I'm just you know, doesn't mean that. Uh, let's see NRA member. I'm gonna just do a quick look up on it. But I'm almost certain that at one point, I see, we're you're confused, chucking. No, No, that was his NSA card. No, it according to a few things online, NRA blah blah blah, apparently he had a membership in Let's see, as of twenty seventeen, he was still a up to date member in the NRA,

according to a bunch of sources. Let's see, we're a champion in decades of Michael Moore now for the NRA has for decades of NRA is successful lobby. Blah blah blah. Became a lifetime member after Colin Blane massacre. In his documentary Or sixteen eight spoken in two thousand and two, he shows his lifetime membership card at a at a speech and yeah, as of twenty seventeen,

he still had an active membership with the NRA. Now as for what the purpose of it was or what he actually believed, I mean, you know, not gonna get into that, but he did have a card. He was paying dues, and let's see in April they were asking on Cora about it, about does he still have it and etc. But apparently, yeah, he legitimately paid for membership, had a membership with the NRA. So I'm just saying, I'm not not saying it means anything. Just you

mentioned that he had you know, membership with a union. He also had membership with the NRA, So there you go off membership. He's doing that to get their literature. I mean at thirty five bucks a month for a year. No, okay, I don't even know how they can afford to send those magazines out for that much. I mean they actually put out a pretty good quality of magazine. Okay, are you a member though, Jimmy Jameson what happened? Are you a member of the NRA? I was just

asking out of curiosity. I am a distinguished life member, fair enough, just asking. I figured i'd ask because why am I? Why am I just distinguish life number? Because they shook being down for more money. Oh okay, So you get an upgrade in your membership if you pay them more, and then you become distinguished like just about every other organization that exists. Normally you gotta be an old part But I get it because I'm a disabled

butture. Oh did they get prefer did they get preferential memberships to veterans? I'm creus. I'm asking purely out of ignorance. By the way, Uh no, but disabled veterans say a qualify for distinguished lifetime memberships, which is potter then you just pay a one time to see Oh yeah, yeah, no, Look, lifetime memberships can be the smartest way to go with whatever organization you want to be part of. So you get these magazines you're talking

about, do they still physically mail a magazine? Yeah? My quality, glossy, very nice, the rightful man. I pick. They got a couple of them. You choose one, okay, And these things are actually really nice, I mean really good magazines. Okay. Cool. Hey,

look you answered some questions and filled me in on some stuff. Yeah good, I found them mentioned here on the on the story surrounding as member worship has said uh collel and the Columbine High School masker more acquired a lifetime membership to the National Rifle Association, or said that he initially intended to become a n r a's president to dismantle the organization, but he seemed to dismissed the planets too difficult. Guns rights supporters such as Steve Coppell said there was no

chance of that happening. David T. Hardy and Jason Clark wrote that Moore failed to discover that the NRA selects a president, not by membership vote by vote of the Board of directors. Well, you better pass it out to

that research thing. Yeah really, because I mean, I can't even imagine the quality of dope you would have to hand out at that board meeting to get them to vote for Michael Moore as president of the organization, because that would be some good dope just saying and I'm talking about I'm just talking about cannabis, Okay, but you'd have to hand out good, really good cannabis to get those guys to let him become president of the NRA, I'm thinking.

But yeah, that's just a little tidbit here. Michael Bore during this divorce, you know, it came out, you know, how much he was worth at all. He was reported to have nine houses and a net worth of over fifty million dollars. You know, for somebody that really rails against the capital of the system, I think has done him quite well. Oh yeah, no, I've seen those reports too where it's like, hey, you know, the guy who seems to hate all the rich people,

he's kind of a rich people. So you know there's that. So let's go to Vance and see if he's got anything to say about the Naked Woman Meth Hotel story. We are almost at about quarter after the hour, by the way, BPTE. I don't know what your schedule's like tomorrow, but I'm thinking we'll close out relatively soon. I think Harlan already hung up. But let's get around to Vance and see if he's got anything to add about

the meth story or Michael Moore's NRA membership or anything else. Vance, it's up to you, man, anything on the meth story or again, Michael Moore's membership, anything else on your mind. Go ahead. I gotta. I have to admit I was not paying attention during the story because I was making me some dinner and getting my sausage ready. But I should I shouldn't

have said that after the other conversation. Wow, here we go. At least you weren't trying to at least you weren't trying to put this sausage in your backpack or your own ham wallet, you know, just saying, uh, one of those terminologies used to be porking or making bacon too, right. Okay, So moving forward, Van's as best we can. Not backward, not to the backpack. Okay, So he didn't pay attention to the mess story, but anything else you want to add a free range for you

how about that? Just so you know, we you know that this conversation gets louder about this vaccine injury and the you know this is you know, in my mind, it's a crime against humanity that these people are you know there you know they have immunity is the only reason that they you know, can be bold enough to to just you know, go out there and do this stuff with without you know, like I've said, there's seems to be plenty of evidence to suggest that they know, you know, going in you

know, of all the side effects, and they just ignore that, which is in my mind is a crime, you know absolutely, you know, there's somebody needs to somebody needs to be held accountable. They need to be arrested. Vouchi should be in jail. They should, you know, everybody in the whole you know who and all that craps should be held accountable. And and you know that's if they keep going to where they're going, you know, with with the economy stuff and the vaccines and the CBDCs and all

this. Once they pass all that CBD stuff, it's all over, you know, and you know, there's there, there's got to be a conversation and about moving you know, about it. Like I said, how do how do you crush the system? How do you stop this system? You know, the system is so ingrained for the last one hundred, two hundred years and and beyond, because it's just the same old grip that they were doing, you know, in Roman times at et cetera, et cetera.

So you know, the the there has to be an active realization understanding that you know, uh, that the system is working the way it's supposed to do. So let's, you know, let's work on that with some actual there's I'm gonna I'm doing some more research now, but I want to bring

up this guy that was Henry George. He was an economist in the nineteen hundreds and and uh, in fact, he when he when he died, because he ran for congress or mayor or something there in New York and he was real popular and uh had a theory called geoism, or at any rate, when he died, he had the biggest funeral of anybody ever in New York. But he's not known by the average person, and nobody's you know, knew about what he was, you know, trying to influence into the

economic system and all that. So I'm going to do that, Henry George if anybody wants to look him up right right, and who knows, maybe we could drag you onto a show sometime soon and and have you present some of that stuff that would be of a high interest to me. I don't know, maybe you got other other places you want to put it out or something, or I don't know, if you do anything online outside to show up here and talk once in a while or go on somebody else's show maybe.

I mean, but I think that's information that should be gotten out there. And uh, I agree with you about a whole lot of this. And I think people need to be held accountable. I mean, if you're shortening lifespans, I mean, isn't that euphemism for killing people? Or maybe it's just me, you know, and I thought, if you're killing people, you should be held accountable. But again maybe it's just me. Be

pete. I say, we get around everybody, let him get a final sentiment in here, and we should start with and give a little latitude to nature Boy because he planted the you know, naked news article but didn't really get to comment on it outside of giving us the war paint scale. So I'm thinking, in fairness, we should start with him, maybe give him a minute or two to say what it's something, and uh, you know, start there, and then let everybody else get kind of a shout out

in and call it a week, because it's already about twenty after. I guess, yeah, we're we're We're well over two hours for tonight, and I'm feeling like it's about end time and it's been a long week. We're both I'm still congested by the way as I was at the beginning of the show. Probably you are too, and maybe we should all go get arrest because we're gonna need It's gonna be a long week. I have this feeling,

okay anyway, So what are your thoughts? First of all, yeah, go ahead and let nature Boy have his shot, and then we'll take a final round there everybody who's left Major Boy on you, Oh sorry, I miss make you buddies back to reality advance. You brought up such a great topic that I wish for that topic was brought up two hours ago, and that's immunity from liability. If we were too. Hypothetically no less, we are living in a crease world. But hypothetically remove that legal liability from

the top to the bottom, this madness would stop immediately. Well, it might not stop immediately, because I think regardless of what you change in the system, there will be people that still, you know, would have the belief that they're out side of the system until there were results that showed up and it was like, oh, wait a minute, Wait a minute, there's actually people getting punished. Oh I think that would put the brakes on real hard. What do you think. Well, personally, we're wrapping up

the show. But I just really had to bring that up. Like I said, I wish we would brought some couple of hours ago because we could have had a whole show on that. But I just wanted to give a shout out to vants and saying that, you know, that was a very good point. Other than that, I do have a big mouth and sometimes I can't be a little long witted. So I will not bore you with that. But everybody out there listening, please support the Ocelli network. Support

Chuck. If you have some extra dollars, send it to him. We're trying to get money raised so we can go to the Lancer conference in November. We're all going to meet up and you know, donate if you can. If you can't, spread the words, share the show, tell people about this. If you hear something interesting, let a friend know as they seeing the old ad campaign. And with that being said, gentlemen, thank you for a great evening and letting me be part of it, and job

a good night, right. I mean, look, we could have dissected the study that be Pete read the article from but I wasn't prepared to dissect it just yet, and I think we should definitely throw it out there. The links are in the Ocelli live chat room for many of the stories covered, whether it is the naked news, which is more for fun, you know, the naked criminal news whatever, more for fun, true, and talking about Michael Moore might have been more for fun, because why not.

I mean, you know, it's good to point out a clown and call him the clown, and he is a clown. But you know, hey, let's keep it. Let's keep it rolling any which way we can. Serious issues are out there, that's for sure. I just didn't want to do courtroom drama this week. Because God knows, we're going to be forced into covering that a lot more in the near future, and hopefully the Sunday

show won't be dominated by it this week. Still don't have that template in place yet, but appreciate it. And yes, I want to give a shout out to I'll name him Jimmy James helped me pay the phone bill this week and that's where I was at, and I appreciate it directly. That was the timing of his donation. I don't know if he did it with that intent, but that was the timing of it. And that's what happens

to that money. It goes into stuff like that. And also, yeah, I'd like to be able to go to Dallas and be able to eat while I'm there. That would be nice. We're hoping to film somewhile we're there. We're hoping to broadcast from there. So you know, the more flexibility we have and ease of transport and such, the more likely it is we'll be able to create things. And even if I come up with another mini documentary or just some random videos from that week, uh that that that

we almost a week, couple of days there the weekend in Dallas. I think it's going to be of interest. We'll have a breakout room there, a bunch of stuff going on, and uh, it ought to be a lot of fun. And I think you could participate in it, even if you can't go to Dallas. By helping me be able to fund this. But you know, it is what it is. I know times are tough, believe me, I know it sucks. I'm looking at the bidonomics idiotic

signs out there. They're officially printing that, putting it to print on signs. I don't understand this. I guess you gotta have something to distract from all the mess. And isn't that normal distractions and constant distractions and more distractions because why they work? Anyway, that's happening, and a lot of other things are happening, and I'm glad that you guys joined us listening tonight,

that's for sure. Be Pete. I think we got to get back around too, and let me check to make sure he's still on the line. Looks like Jimmy James, is there advances there. I think we lost Harlan, but Harlan might have changed connection or decided to go have a piece of pizza or something. Either way, glad that we heard from him. This week. We got a couple of stories related to well, I'm still cracking

up over he had boots and shorts on. So the guy figured he's not gay because he's from Tennessee, but had to ask if he was queer exactly because he was wearing boots and shorts. I don't know that's an interesting mental image, but anyway, it is what it is. Harlan interesting guy. I love the way he tells stories. We should have story Hour with Harland is what we should do. But anyways, maybe that'll come up in the

future. Who knows what happened. May do a quick interjection. Sure, okay, unbeknownst to Harland, if you're listening, Harland, I apologize to not telling you. I recorded tonight his segments and exactly what I was thinking about the tagline is now story time with Harland. I wonder if we should I see, I don't want to steal from something else, but I'm thinking like he's got to have like a captain Kangaroo kind of name, like Uncle Harland or you know something. Yeah, yeah, we can. We can

work with that man, you know or Captain Harland Kangaroo. I don't know the pieces are there. I don't know how to phrase it, but there's something there where he's like and not peewee, We're not gonna do peewee, but something like that where it's like story time, you know, the uncle Uncle Harland. Oh you know what. There was a show called The Magic Garden. And remember that show, The Magic Garden that had the two women on it and the chuckle patch and the squirrel. No, probably that's something

I don't know. Maybe I only saw that, and maybe it was only in New York, but there was like a they did story They did story time in the seventies. I think if you go look it up, I'm sure it exists out there and people can see. I'm not delusional. But they had like a trunk and they would come out and pull stuff out and tell a story from the trunk, and it was like a kid's TV show

in the seventies. I'm pretty sure I'll go look it up, but meanwhile, I'll turn it over to VPTE to decide whether we go to Vance or we go to Jimmy James to let them get a shout out. I guess Nature Boys already done his and then we'll get yours and we'll get out of here. So you tell me who and I'll go look up The Magic Garden. Yeah, we can go to Vance, then we'll hit Jimmy and then

we'll final things out. Alrighty, So let's go to Vance first and get a final word from your vans, something short, sweet, your final thoughts for the week. I'm just glad to be on everybody, have a good weekend and try to stay you know, coolish can. Luckily it hadn't been quite as you know last week or so. We actually had some brained last night, so that was good, but we need a lot more. But they're good. To talk to you all all and we'll talk to you's Friday,

absolutely Vance. Glad to have you a long glad to hear from you, and glad you sound vantastic. I don't. I didn't ask you that this week, but next time I promised I will. Before I go to Jimmy, James really quick from Wikipedia, this is and I think it's accurate,

although a little crazy. The Magic Garden is a live action children's television program that aired Mondays through Thursdays from March sixth, nineteen seventy two to September fourteen, nineteen eighty four, on WPI X eleven in New York City, So I guess it was just there metropolitan area. Produced and broadcast in the

world's largest television market, the show became popular with millions of children. As characterized by The New York Times, The Magic Garden Quote was a cheerful, low budget, inadvertently psychedelic half hour in which Miss Janis and Ms Demas I don't remember their names like that. One of them was named Holly. I think, sat on a giant toads on giant toadstools, spoke to flowers,

sang songs, and told stories. Carol and paul are the main characters and hosts of the show, sing several songs throughout each episode of from accompanied by Paula's acoustic guitar. I also remember there was a squirrel. I think he was pink and his name was Sherlock or something like that. I don't see it in the article here, but yeah, that was the thing in New York City. So that's why you guys don't remember it. It was apparently

just on channel eleven in New York. Sorry, but that's what it reminded me of is that? So I'm not imagining it. Just in case you guys want to know here, I'll put it in the chatroom at ochelli dot com. So I'll share the magic garden with all of you. But anyway, we have Jimmy James left on the line. B Pete. Do you want to go to him? Sure? Fair enough, So Jimmy James, you're kind of parting. Shot find a word. Last shout out of the week. It's on you. Well, shout up to see see CIA for

they're outlandish, evil behaviors. I see that they've been caught. I don't hope you read this news article. They were caught bribing their own scientists to denounce the lab week theory and to go with the animal craft that it jumped to the panguin and whatnot. So, yeah, there's the people in trouble. Well, if you could get some serious people in charge, or it

would be troubled. I tend to think that we're all individuals and their ideas of vasque conspiracies may be vastly exaggerated, because, for instance, it's a well known truism that true to keep the secret as long as the other two are dead. It just doesn't work people generally, Yeah, come down to one or the other side. There's four, don't pick a side. I mean there's a hole in the road. Do you fill it? Do you

not feel it? Do you go pick your nose? I mean there's not Yes, people are different, all of us, all over this world. There's a whole science sociology, and the guy to acknowledge it. We are all individuals. We are not going to submitters, and every one of us thinks that we're the smartest, greatest, wellest person and this idea that millions

of people knowingly. Wow, what your theory is. I can see as clear as day that there is a state party and there is a bureaucracy, and it makes plenty of sense that the bureaucracy would tend to support to say that supports them financially and etc. Anyways, that's just like crazy thoughts. Everyone have a good night and have a good week then, And absolutely, Jimmy James and I can agree with you that everybody is different. In truth,

we are all individuals. But the problems begin when people get in large groups quite often, and then bad ideas spread just as easily as good ones. But anyway, one more thing for the record about the crazy rambling about the magic garden that I was talking about. I went for clarity on this, and I want to give you another excerpt from the Wikipedia article. And maybe this explains, you know, this was what I was exposed to as a child, one of the things I was exposed to. Maybe this explains

some of my weirdness. Let's go at it. Also found throughout the garden are swings, a stone path, a shed, and the chuckle patch, a giggling bed of flowers that grows leaves with jokes on one side and the punchline on the other. Many conversations take place at a low stone wall with Sherlock, a mischievous squirrel puppet with a love for peanuts, and Flapper, a colorful bird who was a later addition to the characters in the Garden.

Stories are often acted out using costumes and props provided by the story box. In addition two songs, games and jokes, the characters provide life lessons for viewers and extend personal greetings to members of their television audience. So it was kind of like that. And you might remember there was a show called One Derrama that was like this. There was things that were regional and national, semi whatever, and maybe just local. Children's television used to be a whole

different animal than what it is today. But my little psychedelic strangeness, and I'm pretty sure Sherlock was like a pink squirrel or bright orange or something. I don't remember precisely because most of the time when I was a young child, the TV was black and white, so was what it was anyways to be Pete. Maybe that explains some of the weirdness. I was learning my life lessons from the chuckle patch and a squirrel puppet. Maybe that's the problem.

I don't know. Well, well, you know, we can always get a couple of toadstools to sit on while we do the show and make you know, let's you connect with your child a little more. I would go every night to a video format if I had a toad stool to sit on. Okay, I really would I need a new I need a new chair as it is, but I'm not suggesting i'd replace it with a toadstool. I need a regular chair. But if I ended up with a toad stool that would support my two hundred someone pound ass, I would sit on

a toad stool and do a video show every night. Sure, that would be great. If I had a nice, you know, cool kind of set the work off, I would do it. And no, I'm not building the h you know, I'm not going to do it with special effects. I mean a physical set. I would sit on it and do it old school style. I don't want to recreate the Magic Garden. They were very weird, these two women, Paula and and Carol. I guess is their names. I don't know why. I thought one of them was had

a different name there. But anyway, they did exist. They do exist. I think I put the link in the chat room at o'chelli dot com so you can read for yourself that TV series existed. Okay, I just wanted to say that because b Pete was almost like, wow, what are you imagining? I didn't imagine it. It happened. Okay, it's not a Mandela thing. If that show was gone though, if there was no existence, no proof of even on the internet, I might go into a

Mandela effects speech. But no time for that, because we're almost done. I give the final word to my co host be Pete. Well, i'd like to just say thanks to Harlan and Advance and Jimmy and makes your boy for calling in and becoming a part of the show this week. And h it's been a headache week. But it's Friday. It's always good to start your weekend with the the roundtable show that we have here, like the way that we do it. So I'm going to just sign off, look forward

to next week. And uh, I guess I try to get the image of Chuck sitting on a toad stool. I guess shape of the toad stool is important if you're going to be sitting on it for a while, just so you don't have a chance of like backpack in filtration. So wow, I'm a ponder that here for the next week. You know, backpack infiltration. Uh, you know Harlan wearing his boots and shorts. Uh, you know Nature Boy going to gay bars. I mean, where else are you

gonna get this? So I leave, I leave that we could have backpacking adventures with Uncle Harmon. Wow. That well, look kick around the names. If you've got a better one than that, I urge you to send it over to Nature Boy. If not, send it to me, I'll pass it along whatever you guys want to do out there, and glad that you the listener, were along with us for this live show. I hope it's entertaining, interesting and somewhat thought provoking. It's not always going to be

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