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the middle of the week, and it is the wildcard Wednesday. I do believe the guests I have on tonight has only been on the wildcard Wednesdays with good reason. So Rolling Stone, Okay, it calls my friend Ryan here the loneliest drag queen in America. That's the title of the article. Maybe I'll read from that in a moment. But I find the the the experience of this individual that sometimes you see online is called Lady Maga USA. I
find their life experience most interesting. Because a Trump's supporting drag queen, I don't think we use that phrase all that often. I don't think there's an army of this guy out there. Okay, and he is a guy, by the way, he's not a trans woman. He's not on his way to because No, this is a gay guy who dresses as a woman sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes and goes out as Lady Maga USA. Now this is being done on video also, so you'll see it on
ROCKVIN if you're on rock FN. How you doing? My apologies for my face was very soon you'll be looking at Ryan's a lot more. So it'll get easier, folks. Anyway, I find this interesting all the time, and I want to talk to Ryan a little bit about some current events and maybe just the general dynamic. Once again, it is so interesting to me that he chooses to do this, that he is a conservative of sours, and yet well, drag queen, you know, okay? Is that even
a proper term? I don't even know if that's politically correct anymore? Do you guys out there? No, I'm not sure Ryan or you know, because you're not dressed as Lady Maggat, so I'm not going to address you as Lady Maga. It takes you a while to get ready to do that. But I'm more than happy to see you and talk to you. How you doing to night, my friend? Oh, I'm great. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be here and yes I am a biological man. I would never claim differently. I do have a
flair for the theatrical. We got the Lady mann of Waves over here. You know, I love dress up, but it's a it's a visual defiance of the left to be Lady Maga Usa and go out there and stand out and just basically show the world hair wigs, makeup, clothing doesn't have anything to do with your biology, and biological women are being erased and theatrical people
like me are The vast majority agree with me. At Drag Queen Story Hour and this predatory usage of drag artistry, it's just out of control and it's humiliating an embarrassing. So drag queen for I sort of have switched to calling myself a costume artist because you know, just the word drag queen now has been it's they ruined it, just like everything the Left touches. They turned it into something filthy, something predatory, something just you know, constantly sexual.
We recently saw one of the queens from RuPaul's Drag Race. RuPaul's a closet conservative, by the way, he just completely sold out in order to run with a trans narrative because if you don't, you're canceled and you're excommunicated like I was. But that you know, one of his queens was at a county fair or something like that, and he had an artificial penis and simulated master Tory things on a stage in front of kids. And I just
it, that's just blatantly and undeniably evil. And I just I don't identify with the alphabet the LGBTQ narrative, and I certainly don't identify with mainstream drag because it's it's all just gross, it's perverted, it's dirty, and anybody who follows me sees that, you know, I sort of emulate a Barbie persona, you know, a glamorous persona, a silly persona, a fun magical person The last thing on my mind is, you know, being sexual, because it's so easy to be sexual. If I wanted to be provocative
and sexy, that would actually be very easy. It takes no talent to be vulgar or sexy or provocative. It takes more talent to try to be enchanting or uplifting or funny or creative or beautiful. You know, anybody can go plants around like a slug. I don't want to, right, And you know, see, now there's an interesting part of the discussion right there, because look, I'm not a prude. I don't care if you want
to go into an adult club. I mean, look, Ryan, if you were in an adult club and you were doing what you're describing here that RuPaul's one of his drag queens did because of course he's got the drag race thing, and I don't know, drag stars, I don't know. There's eight different shows now, RuPaul. Right, it's a big thing, but a whole lot of it has been extremely sexualized and all that it's gotten way
away from the the the pageantry. You know, I look at your character, okay, and uh and I see the old school sort of like beauty pageant contestant is what I'm getting projected at me, which is something that doesn't contain sexuality, that doesn't you know, have any of that stuff. But again, look, if you wanted to go into a club and do that in front of adults and adults pay to go into that club and about it all day, okay, absolutely me too, if it's twenty one and over.
Even if I personally find an activity distasteful. I'm libertarian at heart. Live and let live. Just don't cross the boundaries of what's appropriate. Don't do it in public in front of kids, don't do it in children's libraries, don't do it at the county fair. I don't care what you do in a nightclub, I really don't, but they're being nightclub sexuality adults only content into pride parades. We've all seen the videos of adults literally exposing their
genitalia to kids. I believe it was New York City, Seattle, and it goes much steeper than that. I really do think that there is a really sick agenda behind all of this, because by exposing children to this and saying that it's okay, and having all of these LGBTQ sexually explicit books in schools, what they're essentially saying is that children are adults. And by saying children can consent to massectomies and puberty blockers and hormone blockers and genital alterations,
what you're essentially saying is a child is capable of giving consent. Obviously, that's just a skip, you know, hop skip and a jump away from saying that children are capable of all consent, So it really is. It's a it's a terrible attack on the innocence of kids. And the reason I'm so so passionate about this is because the kids that they are sexualizing and the ones that they are telling that they're in the wrong body, especially the boys. I was that boy. I know who these kids are. They're the
ones like, look, I collect ben barbies. Okay, boys are playing with barbies and people are telling them you're in the wrong body. So I just feel like I would have been one of these kids. And that's that's where I want to stop. Because this at one time required an adjustment. Okay, I'm fifty one years old, so I gotta tell you that when
I was younger, I think there was a need for an adjustment. I think there was a need to let even young kids know that gay people exist, okay, and that you know, don't don't be afraid of them, don't be you know. I mean, because look again, I grew up in the seventies and eighties, so we had the aide thing happened, which initially was called gay related immune deficiency. To my mind, that's how I
remember it was gay related. I will be there first to tell you that that is not a myth, and promiscuity and bathhouses and wanting sexual interactions led to an explosion of AIDS. It doesn't mean that gay people are bad. It means that gay people were being sexually irresponsible. Does it explode it within their community. People don't like it when I say that, but it is
a fact. No. Look, and I'm not going to argue with you on that, But what I would say is that at a certain point there needed to be a conversation that said, look, just because somebody's gay doesn't mean they're evil, because there was an evil attachment to this automatically. And I've known plenty. I've got people in my family, etc. That I know are not evil. Okay, I think sometimes they're a little misguided, and sometimes it's usually for political reasons. But but that's you know, but
I can find that anywhere. Whether they're gay, straight, or whatever, it doesn't matter. My point is, though, that there was a need for an adjustment at one point. And I can even tell you personally that I went through a hard time because I had been assaulted as a child, and my interpretation of that was this was a gay person that assaulted me. Now that's not correct, okay, because a gay person is not automatically a pedophile. You try and explain that to some people in the South, they
don't believe you. Nowadays, I am starting to understand why they say that, but they've always said it, and it took me a while to reason through that. Okay, I'm just being blunt with you, because to me, it was like, if a boy wants to have sex with me and I'm a boy, they must be gay. That was my simple definition, and as a six year old, you can't expect me to really define it any differently. So for a while I was angry and felt as though they
were all predatory. It took me a while to learn, and I think that that conversation needed to be had among my peers in my generation. I think that was necessary. This isn't me being a bleeding heart liberal. I think this was about just not necessarily being tolerant, but being in a position where you understand there are realities in the world that whether you're comfortable with them or not, you're not there to judge everybody, and as long as they're
not interfering with your life. You know, the principle of non aggression. Then you have no reason to show them aggression. Again. It was a hard thing for me to reason personally, but I got through that, and I think there were a lot of guys in my age group that needed to get through that for various reasons. Okay, but now we move past it. Okay, we're past the eighties, we're past the nineties. Things have changed, things have changed and gone. This is the time of overcorrection that
I think is not special in the realm of sexual identity or see. And I don't even know what the proper term to use is anymore. It used to be sexual identity. I don't think that's right anymore, you know, and very confusing because there was a time period there where it was very taboo, still in the seventies, still it was very taboo, etc. Then it became almost like a trendy thing, but only if you were a girl, right and you know, and nowadays now sexual identity there there. I'll
just say this openly, one, I really appreciate your honesty. I'm sorry about what happened to you. My response to that is a child abuser like that is a child abuser. Consenting adult homosexual or lesbian is an adult. So there's bad apples and all groups of people straight, gay, you know, And so I do agree that we definitely had to say, look, you're gay neighbors Like my ex husband and I, we were the perfect neighbors, you know, handsome couple, kept things nice, made the world a
better place. The gay couples who gentrified ghettos and open you know, boutiques and things like that, they're good people. So we had to acknowledge that. But the thing is we did do that. We did overcome the stereotypes. Gay people were just living their lives. We had moved on from the hatred and the division, and your average person didn't care that their hairstylist was a homosexual or that their neighbors were lesbians driving a Subaru, because they'll help
you plant your garden or fix your roof. But now there's a very massive and alarming swing of homophobia. I hate using that term because it sounds victimy, but it's true. People like me, especially a drag artist like myself, I'm facing backlash that just wasn't there ten years ago. And it's I don't even blame people for it, because what are they seeing? They're seeing this predatory lgbt qia alphabet mafia. And when I call them the mafia,
I use that word very deliberately. It is an aggressive movement that is not about tolerance and inclusion. It's about cultural dominance. It's their way or the highway. You will agree to transsurgeries for kids, or we will remove your child from the home. You will use the pronouns, or you will be arrested for hate speech. So we are we are, unfortunately not we, not me, But this LGBTQ mafia is fulfilling every single slipslope prophecy that all
the anti gay people had from the beginning. And that is why it is so essentially critical for gay men like me and artists like me to speak out and help us once again differentiate between dignified, adult, consenting gay people and creative types who like to dress up in whatever and this new recruitment movement. Because gay, No one says gay anymore. You'll never find the word gay, it's LGBTQ, So you have to identify as all of those letters in
order to find relevance in the queer community. And queer doesn't even mean homosexual. So what does this tell us? This tells us. It's about recruitment of the people who used to just be the people who shop at Hot Topic. It's about you know, it's about recruitment of anyone who has a lot of artistic people. It's recruitment of the nerds. It's recruitment of the fat
girls. It's recruitment of the misfits because the ever expanding alphabet non binary doesn't mean anything, but suddenly they're lumped into this hyper sexualized predatory movement and now they're non binary. So they're recruited into this stupid thinking that a girl can't be tough or you know, dressed with short hair and be outdoorsy without identifying the male gender and a guy. You know, in the eighties, the eyeliner all all the earlies was a new wave kind of punk people in the
eighties. They were rebellious, they played with clothing and hair and makeup, but there was never a push that they are in fact the opposite gender. And so gaymen are being a race. It's not as dangerous for gay men to be a race as it is for lesbians and women to be a because historically and biologically men are more predatory than women and men are more able to defend ourselves. But women, if they're being invaded and taken over by biological
men, many of them straight men, in their sacred women's spaces. Lesbians are the ones who are sort of leading the way, you know, like gays against groomers, because they fought for a long time to have their independence as gay women, and now they're being told that they should date a man,
a biological so confusing. Lesbians are being told that they need to date a woman with a penis, and gay men are being told that we need to date a man with a vagina, and if and genitalia, having a genital preference is transfolded, and that ladies and gentlemen is identical to conversion therapy in the evangelical South. You need to be attracted to a vagina, you need to date women, And the LGBTQ is saying the exact same thing,
only calling that biological woman they trans man. So hypocrisy is the name of the game. They have just gone completely out of control. And to be honest, you know, I have played the oh, you know, we hate them game and been pretty rude and a lot of stuff, But my heart goes out to these confused people, especially the young people who are being recruited into this movement, the lifestyle, the attitudes, and making their whole
identity this alpha that will lead them to nothing but misery. And if they do take the trans route they are, they will internally regret it. My personal belief is that your very soul, your very biological body, rejects what you are doing to it, because you know, they say, you can't accept me for who I am. No, sweetheart, you can't accept you for who you are. And you've been lied to. And if you have it, if you want to dress up and wear makeup, do it,
do it. So yeah, because look, I knew guys in eighties and nineties who were wearing makeup and you know, fingernail polish and all that kind of stuff. And they were, you know, they called themselves goths or industrial industrial musicians. They had a couple of different different names and whatnot. But believe me, they were wearing makeup and hairs for products and you know, and stuff like that in capes, you know, pretty much to me, almost like dressing like a woman. And look, I had long hair
for a while, but not very long. When I was alive. Long hair was supposed to be a gay thing, which I always found strange because any gay guy I ever saw usually had short hair. I don't know, but it was weird to me. I got long hair now, but I mean, I'm just saying, even that gotta be and it is tough to get it under the wig. I know that because I played Santa Claus. I never did drag, but I played Santa Claus. Yeah, and I had to wear the white wig. Um. Anyways, Yeah, it's a
whole weird thing. I was a mall Santa. Maybe I'll tell that story on the show one day. But uh but yeah, and then I did other stuff too, but all right, anyhow, Look, it's it's confusing though, especially to a guy like me. Okay, I I feel as though it's not just endangering one community or the other. I think it's literally destructive to everybody because how do you sort all this out? This is so
confusing to me. You know, it's like if if if, okay, and this is gonna maybe I'm gonna be offensive a rude here, I'm gonna do it anyway. I didn't. I could never offend me. I'm lady Maga, I everything all day, every day cool. But here's the thing I understood. Okay, here's jay, all right, and gay could be male or female either way. Gay is gay, all right? And then maybe you like men and women, so therefore you're bisexual. Yeah okay,
Um, but what else is there? There's either you know, and straight I know is no longer you're supposed to use that or whatever. I don't know if cis gender is still used or you know, you're you're a guy who likes gender, cis gender is. It's a way of saying we acknowledge
biological realities. Okay, so yeah, trust me, I'm just as confused as you are as all the definitions expand yeah, I mean like, but but I'm at a point where it's like, well, what is gay or see, queer used to equal gay, all right, and now it doesn't. And I get it. Okay, maybe queer could be somebody who acts like they're gay. And I've seen that, by the way, as a guy who pretty much acts sort of like you would, you know, stereotypically gay, but it's not gay. Actually, I've seen that. It's used
to be rare, it's becoming less rare. But you know, an odd thing where a guy acts a little bit feminine, but he's still a straight guy. He's still into women. And I've seen women who are kind of well bushy, they're kind of manly. They they got a deep voice, they're a little bit tough, and they like men I've seen. But it didn't necessarily define you. Now, if you're one of those things where you know, you seem to be acting almost like gay and you're not gay,
then you're one thing. Maybe you're queer. Maybe you're not queer. If you have a curiosity, you're queer. Like it's so confusing, and meanwhile they add all these other things in where it's like, you know, what is a pan pan sexual? What is a this and that? I mean, it just made more sense to me, like, look, there is a specialness to you're straight, you're gay, you're buy And that pretty much covered everything unless you have, you know, two sets of genitals, and
that happens once in a while. Biologically, maybe that's another category, but it has nothing to do it has nothing to do with homosexuals. That's another example of recruitment. These are people with a medical condition, they have two genitalias. They have been thrust into the alphabet narrative because they're always looking for a new victim narrative. We have to understand that the gay and lesbian thing
was essentially over. Nobody cared, and so how do you gain money and how do you gain power with a narrative that no one cares about anymore? No one cared about their gay brother or their lesbian aunt. So they to say, what new victim narrative can we focus on? Obviously it's the transgender The te dominates everything, and even more so the transgender children, because it's so politically advantageous for them on the left to present themselves as the saviors of
vulnerable children. Doesn't that sound nice? Transit ad or protect trans kids, trans children exist, whatever, So using the word children is very advantageous politically, and they're and they're winning because, you know, presenting themselves as the saviors when in reality they're actually advocating the literal destruction of these children. So that's kind of like planned parenthood. Instead of just using the word abortion,
they have to say women's healthcare. Who doesn't care about women's healthcare? So trans youth awareness, all these nice things are just another way of saying we're trying to push adults only procedures on little children like messectomies and massive hormone drugs that they will be hooked on for the rest of their lives. So that's one and two. Big pharma never has been and never will be our friends. And the hormone industry is a billion dollar industry if you look at the
statistics transgenderism, so to speed from two thousand until now. Once the walk explosion led by Trump's arrangement syndrome began in about twenty sixteen, there has just been a massive, we're talking massive increase of people identifying as trans and of course a massive increase in high schools and junior highs of kids. I think it's like one in three kids identifies as a member of the LGBTQ community.
Because in order to be a part of that community, to be seduced by their recruitment, all you have to be as a boy who likes snailfowers. Oh I'm not buyingary. See now you're part of it. Now they've got you. Now they sucked you into the sexualized LGBTQ inappropriate narrative. Instead of saying you're a rebel, you know you pay your you're a rock star man
cool. Okay, And that's a strange thing. And that's a strange thing because when I was a kid in school, right, I the honest percentage was one or two out of every hundred kids was probably could go into that that that basket. Okay, they might have been lesbian, they might have been gay, they might have been by truthfully, one out of one hundred, two out of one hundred, that's what I observed. Okay. You know, I graduated high school in nineteen ninety one, so in the eighties,
that's what I saw. And when I explained this to younger people, now I get you know, thrashed a bit. Oh well, you just don't understand. You're very ignorant because all of these people used to have to hide, you see, and now they don't have to hide. No, And I said, well, you know, in some places, maybe they did, and I get that, okay, but where I was in New Jersey, nobody needed to hide. It just was what it was. Nobody was New York. Nobody cared. Okay, it was fine. You noticed
them, yes, but that was it. It was like, well that's yeah, okay, so what it wasn't a big deal. You know, they don't know they were under threat. You don't understand. And I go, okay, maybe that's true, but this is an explosion. This is a huge percentage of these young people. And in reality, again, look I've got tattoos. We don't let young kids get tattoos. Why because they're
permanent. You go, do it hormone therapies. People go, well, look they can stop, they can start, but no, See, during adolescence you're developing things like your bone density and stuff like that which can get shouted. And this is scientific fact. This is not my opinion. It's scientifically. If you give you know, female hormones to a boy, you're screwing with their bone density. And I believe it goes the other way around
too. It messes with their density when you're giving them the opposite hormone from what they're assigned at birth. It does mess with stuff like that. And there's other things that are happening during adolescence, you know, neurological development. That's not your opinion, it's not my opinion. That is fact, that is reality. If you pause a young person's pubescent process, you are affecting
their body for life. Yes, they can go off the drugs at seventeen, But what is their genitalia going to look like, what is their atoms apple going to look like? What about their height? What about their width? What about everything else? And of course the child can not consent to
such dramatic bodily alterations. So the other thing that's so crazy if you look at if you look at a commercial for let's say, Lunesta sleep aids, or even the painkiller or asthma medication, at the end of the commercial they always speed read the side effects. And in a magazine you see a nice picture of someone with a puppy, and then you turn the page and the
entire page is filled with the consequences. All of these side effects and consequences, for some reason, I don't know how, are completely hid and from the public. Planned Parenthood put out an adorable little video cartoony cute, obviously aimed at children. A girl looked in the mirror and she saw herself as a boy, meaning short hair and different clothes. And they go through the whole puberty blockers as if it's sunshine and sparkles and fun day at Disneyland without
listing the consequences. So the more people investigate the realities the more they realize how terrible it is. The problem is doctors and medical professionals who speak out against this are shut down. They're labeled transphobic. They are at best shadow band, at worst fired from their careers. You know, doctors and rational people now have to sign on the dotted line that they will use they them pronouns, meaning that an individual person can be plural. They're getting us to
accept nonsensical things, just like happening in the COVID pandemic. You know, mask, your kids, wear a mask. Keep everybody safe, get the job. We're in the worst crisis in history, and everybody just ran with it and went for it. And it's the Emperor's new clothes. We all know that that swimmer with a penist and body muscle winning the competition against the girl next to him, who is half his size, was a man who
should not have been in that competition. But like the Emperor's new clothes, everyone is saying, oh, look at his beautiful cloth, look at his beautiful shoes. The Emperor's clothes are so amazing because everybody was too afraid to say that he was naked. That's what's happening with these men presenting themselves as women. And it's see, the more they can get the public to accept nonsense and lies and outright just arcical things like Dylan mulvaney going to the White
House speaking on behalf of women, what's next? I mean, what else can they convince us of. My personal belief is chip in our bodies, digital currency, social credit scores. It's for your safety. We care about the community. This is to protect the vulnerable. You're a bad person if you don't want the digital chips, so we know that the community is safe.
Right, Like, we're being socially programmed to accept nonsense, and unfortunately, globally and right here in America, America falls for it every single time. Yeah, and that's the bizarre thing because again, it doesn't just undermine the identity of the LGBTQ alphabets who it undermines, like you said, women,
women in general, and women did have to struggle. Okay, Again, it's not real recent history, although some people would tell you it's still going on, and maybe it is on some level, okay, But either way, women had to struggle to a certain themselves in a certain way. Their identity as women is being undermined by this kind of stuff. I don't understand how they like nobody can see that this is not destructive on all sides
because there is no clear definitions. It makes no sense to just mix everything together. And you know, like, at the end of the day, how do you even have any you know, because they say, you know, your identity is important. Your identity is important. But even going back to the children, how about you give him some time to explore an experiment. You know that used to be a thing when I was a kid. Well, you're gonna explore, You're gonna experiment, You're gonna go through different
things. You're gonna think one way about things for a while and then think another. Well what about that too? Okay, So let the girl cut her hair short, letter shave her head, Let the kid the guy grow his hair long, Let him put on the fingernails, play with barbies, let him play with the barbies whatever. Maybe he likes it, maybe he doesn't. Maybe he ends up you know, being a lady maga usa too. Maybe he ends up and maybe ends up looking like me. I don't
know, because you can never tell. Kids go through stages, and they do explore, they do experiment. They are not. See that's the thing. How are you like, I'm not asking you because you're not one of these people, but I mean the big question is, how can you say that this is a good idea to allow something which does permanent effects on a child? In this case, you don't want them to reproduce because that's a very long term commitment. You don't want them to get you know, ink
on the skin, hell of a hard thing to get rid of. You don't want to let them make all these other decisions because they have long term consequences. Right, Well, how is it that the hormone therapy doesn't have long term consequences? Again, not my opinion. Scientifically, it does things and changes, It alters their future. It's a guarantee. So like, it's not about liberal conservative, it's about to me, Well, you don't want to trust the science on this, because that's what it sounds like to
me. It's scientifically impossible to inject all of these hormones into an adolescent creature, doesn't matter if it's a human, a dog, anything, adolescent creature. You inject hormones into them, you are changing them because they are still in development. That's a guarantee. So I don't see how, if you look across zoologically and across humanity, how you can deny this. I mean, I didn't understand how it is they got the you know, the psychotropic
drugs into kids and all that, and that's yet another story. I think that was I hate to say this, that was the gateway to this is all those psych meds that they started giving seven year olds and six year olds you know, well they needed for this, and they needed for that, and they need to pay attention, and oh they're depressed, and now we're
giving them, you know, a prozac at it whatever. And when I was a kid, you couldn't do that because they knew that neurologically, they were too early in development and you could alter their brain chemistry permanently with this stuff. So they didn't do it. And then poof the political decisions made, you can. And this is the same thing here. This should be a scientific thing where it's like, look, this can do damage. If you want to show me where it improves somebody's life, okay, show me
that. But here's the thing. It's guaranteed to make an alteration. And I'm certain that there has not been enough of a study to show that there is positive reactions to this, although you do see some people come out and go, oh, I've been doing this since I was twelve and now I'm in my twenties and I'm very happy. But equally you can find stories some people that are very disappointed, very upset, and have changed their minds later
in life too. The detransitioners, they are silenced, they are kicked off of social media. So it depends on how far you want to go down the rabbit hole and look look at the bigger picture of what because what is happening to these children, It's just undeniably evil. It's evil, And so what evil forces are out there in the world, What evil agenda is being
accomplished by rendering children infertile? One depopulation, The globalists whatever you want to call them, deep state, you know, illuminati, whatever people want to call them. There are those who are in power behind the scenes. This is this is an obvious thing that happens, and there is a there is
an agenda to depopulate the planet. Kamala Harris just did a slip and said something about our goal is clean energy depopulation, blah blah blah, so by rendering children infertile, you're wiping out a heck of a lot of children. So that's one agenda behind it. The other is it just completely just how do you destroy the American family? How do you destroy the family unit of mother, father, traditional, um day whatever. But I'm not stupid enough
to deny that the traditional family is the backbone of society. I wouldn't be here without it, and nobody would. There's room for gay people, We're fine, We're over that. But how do you destroy the family unit? Where you start by altering the definition of a man and a woman and a mother and a father, and both of those definitions have been completely decimated.
We have birthing people now we have men who breast feed, and so by confusing the children and erasing factual biological realities, you are in effect destroying them emotionally, socially, and morally. So I think it goes I think, you know, rules for radicals, the Hillary Clinton's out there, they don't think in the short term, They never have. Conservatives tend to think now and tomorrow. They don't. They have gradually gradually conditioned us, starting with
the New Deal. I mean, you know, for the coach from no socialism and what do they call social and not social intoxication infection, but social contagion is very real. And so if you have a child who doesn't know what a man is, they don't know what a woman is, and their only identity is based off of something that is created by taking drugs and based in sexuality. They don't have any authentic self esteem, they don't have any
authentic ambition. And like getting kids on all these drugs that you're talking about, these kids on these hormones. I mean, I've met a lot of trance people and no offense, but none of them are emotionally balanced, because, in my opinion, it is entirely impossible for a biological man to pump himself full of estrogen and be mentally sound. Even a man who takes too much testosterone becomes a nut job. Yeah, that hormonal imbalances create mental illness,
so to speak. And a woman. I've known trans women identifying as men, adult trans people, and I've seen them get in fights. Most of them are very vitriolic. They are up there down there on anti depressings. They are suicidal, They're all over the place. In spite of what they portray on social media. I've seen behind the scenes, and it is
because you are a woman pumping yourself full of testosterone. Naturally, they're going to become overtly aggressive and emotional and upset because you're pumping your body full of something that truly doesn't belong there. It's a dangerous thing to do to your body. I do believe in an adult right to do what they want with their body, but it's it's just, it's just obvious that you're going so again creating a population that's a nice biology mother, father, man won't mean
God decimated. And now we've got you hooked on drugs through big Farma, so you're mentally ill and you're not reproducing. And on top of all of this, with the Alphabet agenda, with the trans Agenda, comes one hundred percent complete and total Marxism. There you have it, a recipe for a stupid, drug duck, confused, depressed, suicidal population. It's easy to control, see now, but what would you say to somebody? And this would be the last thing I throw it. It's a little hard, but
yeah, I guarantee that somebody said to see it before. So again, I'm not I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about offending you anyway, because it's impossible to offend me exactly. So we're just gonna I'm gonna throw it at you hard, all right. It's real simple. What would you say to somebody says, look, you know what, you're being self destructive to yourself here because at one time being gay, Hey, that was
considered a mental disorder, right, and it was. And I get it because look, honestly, scientifically, it made a little bit of sense to me because you're talking about an organism not behaving in a way that propagates said organism. Right, generally speaking, two men not gonna make a baby, all right, two women are not gonna make a baby, not generally speaking, speaking, speaking truth, there's spilling the tea. It is absolutely true.
Two men cannot create a baby, not without one of these, you know, stay tuned though they're working on it, right, you know that. But but anyway, look back to the back to reality for the way it is now. Somebody might say to you, look, you know, at one time you would be considered to be somebody with a mental disorder. Do we need to go back to that? Do we need to go back to a time when you know, no, there's no gay either. You know, does it all need to go? I see, I don't think
so. I think it was pretty simple when again I had it kind of nailed down finally point in my life where it was like, look, there are straight people, there are gay people, and there are people that kind of go both ways. Sometimes I go one way, sometimes I go another, and you never know. And you know what, I don't ever write to tell anybody anything. A matter of fact, I've seen people who half their life they spent sort of on one side of defense, and half their
life they spent on the other. Okay, yeah, really sweet girl. I mean I know, I see what you're saying here. I am homosexual who impact in the past was attacked for being mentally ill, a natural against God, destroying the family, everything that I'm saying right now, So I absolutely see where you're coming from. I guess I guess where I would. My best explanation would be that I am not trying to recruit or say that homosexuality is the equivalent of a heterosexual couple. It is, in fact not.
Even when it comes to adopting children, should a crack baby have a chance in a home with two nice lesbians. Sure, not against it, but the ideal is for a child to have a mother and a father. So I see. I guess that's where I'm kind of different from the trans movement, because they're literally saying a trans woman is the equivalent of a biological woman. So that would be one homosexuality. I do not know why it
exists. I do not know where it comes from. There are a lot of different theories, and I've explored pretty much all of them, but we don't have a definitive explanation or answer as to why homosexuals exist. For me, it is what it is. Fought it for a long time. I went to conversion therapy, and I just felt like trying to marry a woman
can stay Mormon would have been a disservice to that woman. She deserves somebody who wants to motor boat her melons and all right, she needs she needs somebody who's not just going to love her as a sister and a best friend. Women deserve to be ravished and loved and adored and sexual and all those things, you know. So I've just concluded that it is what it is. And I also In spite of the biological explanations and whatnot, I do believe the gay men, when we live our lives on a certain frequency,
we do have a special gift to offer this world. We tend to be more creative, We tend to be more artistic. You know, all the Broadway musicals that you love, most of the songs were written by gay men, painting, art, architecture, and especially. We have a sacred mission that I believe comes from God to be the man in the lives of many women. My best friend is a woman who lost her husband a little while
ago, and I'm basically her gay husband. I am the man in her life, not romance, not sexually, but I have been given that sacred opportunity time and time again as a gay man, to be the man in a woman's life, the misfit women who don't have the perfect picket fence story, who may never get married, who are maybe you know, severely overweight, and are ignored by statement. So I hate the turn, but people
will often call that fag tags. I really hate that turn because as a game then you do have a very special role in Like in my family, I'm the youngest of eight children, as my mother was dying. It came to me to be there for her and take care of her, and I took her bedroom from upstairs. She couldn't go upstairs anymore, so I took it from upstairs. We had to make the laundry room her bedroom. You better believe that laundry room was just the most magical and immaculate, wonderfully organized
bedroom. So I think we do have a purpose, and I think God's going to explain that purpose after we die. I am Christian, I pray diseases whatever. I just I don't understand the mystery of homosexuality, and I digressed, so don't know why it exists. Can't justify it biologically because two women, you know, having sex does not make biological sense. It is
an aberration of human biology. I guess the difference is if let's say I'm an evangelical and I say trans is bad and Ryan gay lady maggot, is that I guess you kind of have to say, Okay, Well, there are tiers of sin. You know, Stealing flowers from a tree in a public park is stealing. Stealing someone's wallet and their identity is another level of stealing. So if they want to look at the if they want to categorize
things as evils. Two consenting homosexuals adults living their best life, living monogamously is not going to be tor mental to society. A trans person trying to enter women's sports is detrimental to women and the other. Just huge difference between what I'm saying about the trans radicalism and what people in the past would say about homosexuals. Is I am not doing anything that physically and mentally alters my body. I'm not taking massive amounts of mind altering drugs and expecting to be
treated as though I'm not completely on drugs, hormonal drugs. You know, it's performance anyway, it's it's it's you know nowadays they have cosplay, right, you know, people getting the costume. You know there's something You're a goblin, You're you're a dragon, you're whatever. I don't care. Yeah, you know, if you do it well, you do it well, that's all the right. So why not? Okay? Anyway, Look, we took a lot of time here and I didn't get to ask you about
what happened with the Christmas ornaments? Did you do did you sell a lot of those? I remember you were making Christmas ornaments, right all, I tried, you know, I am I am anything but a businessman. So I tried to make my word financially stable, and I have failed because I was making Christmas ornaments. I've got a whole collection of all sorts of things that I want to make. My primary goal right now is just to relaunch my podcast and put all my eggs into that basket and really just come up
with funny, creative content. But you know, real life gets in the way. My car is in the shop. It's a thousand dollars I don't have, and so I have to pick up extra shifts at my day job. I keep that private because crazies are out there and they hate me. But yeah, right now I'm just sort of sort of floating along, just taking care of real life. You know, people call me a grifter, and I said, I wish I was a grifter. I wish I made I wish I had made money off of Lady Macca. But that you can't
be Listen, you can only a grifter really if you're making money. And I'm just I'm not no offense. But you and I both we're not making money, okay, And I actually to tell you that your August twelfth is
four years of Lady Maga. I really do wish that I didn't carry that sort of holier than now grassroots attitude, because I don't think there's anything wrong with people making money off for their politics if you're good at something and you're making a profit, especially if you're making a profit off of conservatives who want to expand your voice. You know, I used to sort of look down on people who sold merge or whatever, but I'm hoping to become one of
them. And the good news is I have a four year proven track record that my heart is in this for the right reasons. But if I want to take off the day of work to film the podcast, I have to make up the money. So you know, I'll just do what I can. It's up to God. And life is so short. One of my closest friends is Mom died yesterday unexpectedly, and it's just a reminder that all the things we get caught up in everything's in God's hands. You never know
what's going to happen tomorrow, so I try and enjoy life. You know, I'm sober. I always tell people this, I'm sober six months in two weeks, I had succumbed into the clutches of alcoholism. And the reason I share that's because somebody out there might hear me say it and they might be inspired to get help themselves. Because I was always that person who would hear someone like me say that, I think, oh, I could never do it. I could never get there, and it's it was with God.
And so I just kind of feel like everything's in God's hands. And if this little window of life right now just means I have to work my day job and be exhausted and poor, maybe I need to, you know, do that. So I just I trust in God's plan. You know, you don't change, And I think I think you're gonna you're gonna find a groove here and it's gonna work for you because you know, you're you're a genuine person. This is too funny. If you guys are not watching
this video, I love this. You're you're flipping the fan back and forth. It's hot in this room too, by the way, but I like the fan. My AC is not working, don't ask me why. And I can't turn on a fan because it'll make noise in the background. But this kind of works. Actually the fan matches what I'm wearing, So yeah, I did this on purpose. I wanted to a pure Glamoris. It's
a great it's a great visual. Anyway, you still have a if you if you look on social media, Lady Maga Usa on Twitter, all one word together, that's your ad over there, Instagram and all that too, or so Twitter and face. Facebook is my primary platform, and there's fifty three k that's Lady Maga Usa. And then the only other one I really use is Instagram and that's lm USA seventeen seventy six because they've kicked me off three times, so my newest Fine, I'm up to seventeen thousand followers.
We'll see how long it lasts. But it's l m USA seventeen seventy six. And they can also just visit ladymagat usa dot com and that'll kind of take them to all the all the fun, all the fine train scots. Excellent and it's really good to talk to you. Look, we have honest conversations. I love this. You know, I can pick your brain a bit because look, I'm not a gay guy. I don't understand a lot of the things that you're going through and you're confronting, you know, being
supposedly part of this alphabet soup. And I would object to it, you know, I would assert my identity, you know, if I was. But then again, maybe I'm wrong about that. Maybe I wouldn't. Maybe I would just keep my head down. No, I'm just gonna be lgdpt G. How many letters are going I don't know. I don't know how you're doing. You're doing a show right now. You would have been you would have been liked me. You'd be like, wait a minute, wait a minute, not in my name, honey, not in my name.
That's one of those things I do not like it when people try to you know, well, we're doing this for you. Well I didn't ask you too, right, so and I identify with that, and and I love you for it. And uh, one of these days, you know, I know, I know you're gonna do well. So we'll give everybody the links in the show notes and all that stuff. And I appreciate you taking this time with us. Ryan again, Ryan Woods, that's that's actually you
know your regular name. But Lady Maga USA Lady Maga USA dot com uh lm USA seventeen seventy six on Instagram. You said, yep, I got it right. It's scary anyway, uh so, and also go on to Facebook. We'll give you the links to all of that in the show notes. And I'm gonna let you guys go for tonight and let Ryan go here. I appreciate all of you because, after all, I am merely O'Kelly. All of you are indeed the effect. Good night, all right,
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