The Ochelli Effect 6-28-2024 Open Mic

June twenty eight, twenty twenty four, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, And this is the show you were looking for. And we don't beat medicare here, but we did last night, didn't we? All right? So do you need a snigger in a mountain? Dude? There? Beat pets with Oh man, Look, how many jokes can we make in a two hour time period? I don't know because I went to air late, so you don't got to pull two hours. But you can join

us here, open line, open mic Friday, the o'celli effect. Glad to have you along anyway, good thing if you're hearing us just after eight pm Eastern in what we used to call America really before this, in the medics and the COVID and the according to our president, just after eight pm, about nine minutes after eight pm Eastern. Yeah, we're live. You can join us. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call.

And uh, no, we're not beating medicare. We're not. Uh we're not quite a trumpy neither, although I'm gonna get some trumpy calls. I got a feeling, and you gotta let it happen tonight because oh man, last night I went to show early, I went live at eight pm and it is replaying on the stream now. But you're not gonna get a podcast out of it, the entire debate, right, it'll replay on the

stream if you listen to the Ocelli radio station. And uh, you know, I I lost interest in commenting on it after a while, although I still did. But what were you going to say? There's no need for construction. I mean, if it's not self evident what you were listening to, I don't know what to tell you. It was hilarious one on one hand, it was really a car crash. On the other hand, it makes me feel happy that the presidency is not the most important job in the

world, because if it was, we got a problem. Yeah, and look, we got lots of problems apparently, because this is the best we can do. These two guys, you know, one that can't keep his fact straight and the other one that can't keep us straight straight. I mean, what do you want me to do? And then of course they wheeled him out today North Carolina. I think the rally where he came out and

he was yelling and everything else. And I'll tell you one thing. All of you guys that were telling me that that Biden was doing cocaine, you're full of crap because you've never been around round a guy who's doing cocaine. If you think that's what it looks like. No, yeah, you know, one hundred miles an hour, this kind of thing not making much sense, herkie jerky movements. This would be the coke head look, the coked up look, not the coke head look. Even just the coked up look.

Biden looked like he was falling asleep, asleep a couple of times, misspeaking more than I do. I mean rough, rough, rough, And we didn't even get to the dog that's biting everybody. Maybe that's the problem, you know, the comfort animal is not comfortable over there in the wada oh man. Anyway, what I knew would be a joke definitely turned out to be a joke. And yeah, so we ran that for an hour

and a half. One hour pre show. I was supposed to do with Swanston, but he was actually sick, so he did not come on with us. And it's too bad because I would have loved to have talked to somebody about it after the debate. And the funny thing is I had opened lines nobody wanted to call. I saw you guys on the stream. Nobody called anyway, it is what it is. We're in the day after mode. Okay, bomb laid for sure, and it was not from the Alabamia guy. It was from the Obiden guy. Right, Yeah, I know

what I said. Unlike the alleged president and unlike the alleged perpetrator who's out there. Actually he's not an alleged perpetrator. He's a convicted felon. As they screamed at us all day from most of major media, except over at Fox, where they were having a good time. Fox News Nation I think was having a good time. Newsmax was having a good time. Everybody except Bannon actually, because well, Supreme Court ruling didn't exactly go his way today.

But stay tuned because on Monday we get to hear about immunity for Trump. And by the way, I don't want to spend the whole Friday on politics. So after I'm done with this and I let each of you say your peace. Obviously I don't control when anybody says on here. But I'd love to move on to other subjects because we still have six more months almost of this well five five more months of this crap to go through, right, I mean, can you feel your stress headaches? Yet? I can?

And oh, by the way, I mean proof positive that the president isn't running the country. I'm not talking about who's got the power, because you know, oh, look, somebody's got to be propping them up. Look how many times have we been through this already? A president his wife is actually running the country, a president who was at one time Coomatos and his wife was making decisions that actually happened in American history. And I'm not

talking about yesterday. You know, other times we definitely had presidents who were slightly impaired one way or another. I'm not sure if they you know what the causes were, always, but different reasons, different times it happened. And even when it doesn't happen, allegations of it happening are always running around. Somebody is always looking for the house the card scenario. And indeed it's just your natural inclination letting you know that you're aware that you're looking at a

puppet on the screen one way or another. I mean, it doesn't matter. It's a meat puppet. Whatever goes into the White House is a meat puppet, has been for a long time. And the deal is you're just arguing over who really is pulling Pinocchio strings. That's all your argument's about who gets to pull the strings. It's never you, by the way, you the people, you, the little guy, it's never you. But let's argue who really should be pulling the strings. And let's pretend that they can

steal things from us that we don't actually own. And let's pretend anyway. I'm done. You guys are gonna say what you're gonna say. This isn't about my opinion tonight, but gotta tell you it's funny to watch. And I should have stuck with the feed a little bit past the debate, BPTE. I'm gonna turn it over to you shortly, but I need to ask

you something. I really think I should have stuck with the CNN and went over to CNN Direct and used their feed for a bit, because you know what happened right afterwards on CNN that like, cause I shut down the show pretty quick, and then for some reason I turned on the CNN feed, and there it was, and I got to see what their immediate wrap up, like, not the first few minutes because I was doing my own wrap up, but like five minutes later, what do you think was on CNNBP,

Well, I've just seen clips of the aftermath today. I watched it on the cbsped Okay, So when it was over with, they went to their own pundits to discuss the masking current that they just saw happen. But you know, everybody did that, Like even Fox was using CNN feed. CNN, you know, had their feed and had their moderators, but everybody was using it. CBS had a feed of it, uh, you know CN that way. They didn't even allow any white White House corresponding in the

spinningroom on site, which really ticked off a bunch of reporters. They seemed to think CNN was pulling through shady crap. Yeah, but the agreement, the agreement they laid out just really fast beat the agreement they laid out. Actually, I didn't make a big point of this last night, but they actually gave a free license for anybody to rescream it as long as you noted that CNN was, you know, was the place where the feed was coming from, so CBS anybody could have used it, so I did. I

went to the regular feed. But good, but that's just it. You know. They've also put restrictions on it for showing somebody has filed also because they're trying to restrict the availability of footage from the debate. They let it live feed, but they don't want to see it like it has already started showing up in a Brazilion YouTube videos where people are doing their own analysis of it, and they were trying to stop that from happy but hey, good

luck with that. But once it goes out on the air, it's pretty much on the air. Yeah, well what's to do about it? And that's the thing. I was allowed to live stream it right legally, that was a fully legal live stream, but they but there was a thing in there when you signed up, you know, you cannot use this recording without

another agreement with us. And it was like, okay, cool, fine, because I didn't you know, so I can't make it into a podcast legally, so I'm not gonna, but I am replaying on my stream. Make it anyway, make it anyway, just piss them all. Yeah, I'm replaying it. On my stream. I mean, nobody's going to pay that much attention to what I did. But I just want to make a point there that they actually made an open agreement with anybody in the media who

wanted it, so that was kind of funny. But afterwards you tuned the CBS. But I want to talk to you about what happened on CNN. Then you can talk about anything you want, because this, to me was comedy gold and I should have left the stream open and allowed it to air

on here and commented on what happened afterwards on CNN. Can you imagine, just think about what would they do on CNN Since they were the host of the debate, and they had the first pick of all the talking heads, all the spin people they could get right, They probably could have put Trump on air directly afterwards, you know, if they had bothered to offer it

to them. And by the way, they kept violating time. I don't know, if this comes to this might be why they don't want the recording out there, by the way, because they were letting Trump violate time and cutting Biden off pretty abruptly, and I thought that was funny. But anyway, tell me, what do you think that they went to their primary thing after they went, oh my god, what did we just see? Oh

no, oh, no, somebody needs to replace the old man. I mean really, I felt bad provided from his first set of words, because somebody needed to get Grandpa a bottle of water. He sounded like he couldn't clear his throat, and during the debate, the campaign released a statement during the debate, Oh, we're sorry, we forgot to tell you he had a cold. Yeah. So what do you think they went to immediately afterwards

on CNN? Really, I want you to speculate what would be I mean, all I know is they went to what Van Jones and the rest of them sitting around picturing and moaning that, you know, what are we going to do now? Yeah, well that was the immediate caper on it, right after Dana Bash and what's his name turned around and went okay, thank you and good night. Yeah, they went to Van Jones and the little group around on the table with Scott whatever his name is, you know,

the always Trump guy and all that. You know, the preset. Here's a couple of Trump people, here's our Democratic Operatives, and here's our CNN staff around a table. But they didn't stick with that long. Who was their primary spinmaster afterwards? You want to take a guest, I have no idea. Okay, Kamala. They went to Kamala Harris right after, and to me, I'm sitting there watching this and the visual was beautiful, but I wonder how it would have translated out. Yeah, I saw clips of

that, but I didn't know it was immediately after. Oh yeah, it was immediately after, and it's Anderson Cooper talking to her. If that's the clip you saw, then that's the immediate aftermath. They just had this blank look on his face, like I can't believe you're telling me the things that you're telling me, and I have to sit here and listen to it without

reacting. Yeah, that was the look on his face. The look on her face was the best, though, because he started annoying her and she had that look on her face like I wish I was still a cop. I wish you ever see when a cop like loses their job because they deserve to lose their job, and they get that look on their face, like, you know, if I still had a night stick and a gun and five minutes alone with you. She started looking at him like that in my

mind, like I wish I was still a prosecutor. I'd definitely have you pulled over. I've been screwing you over, like like she wanted to abuse some power up on Anderson Cooper right there, and why because he was going out her going look that was a disaster. I mean, he was being pretty straight with you can't deny something's wrong with the president. And she goes, well, you know, he had a weak start, put a strong finish with a straight face. Several people made that comment that he started out

slow, got better. I think, yeah, Rachel Maddow was pushing that point on to fall her at the very end. Well, because clearly that was the DNC talking point. But what's hilarious is she's the first one out there doing it with a straight face. And he goes, but look, this is what happened. Let me play you clip. Oh my god, this is what happened. He said this. What does that even mean? Well, she has to do it, she has to do it with a

straight face. Here's her problem. She's you know, they're talking about it. And finally the cat is out of the bag. Everybody knows how bad Biden is. I mean, they led up to this with oh, well, you can't believe these videos. They've been altered, and no, he doesn't freeze up, and he doesn't wander off, and he doesn't craft his pants, and so you got it, you can't believe all this. Well, now everybody sees exactly who's been lying about Joe Biden for the past three

years and his condition, and basically it's the media and the Democrats. You know, Oh, he's sharpest in tech. I'll tell you what. I could have sat on that tack last night four or five times and never felt it. It was so dull. Oh, and he is holding out of it. So she's got you know, they know that they're there's already talked even when they went to her, they had already been talked by fundings on TV about replacing Biden. And the thing is everybody knows they're not going to

replace Biden with Kamala, So she is she's in a unique position. You talk about a lane duck president, Well, she's a lane duck VP. Yeah. You know, she better hope that they don't replace her at the convention. She's out. Nobody is going to come. I mean, nobody is going to consider voting for her as president. I don't care who it is. You want to talk about a landslide, put her up there. Yeah. So she's in this unique position she's got to take up for Biden

because Biden right now is the only meal ticket she's got. Yeah, And the truth is, look, do you want to you want the Democrats to shoot a total blank here. What you do is you're removed Joe from the ticket and you stick Hillary on there, and you will have the least likely to garner an actual vote ticket that the Democrats have floated. I mean since Walter Mondale. I mean, I said, as bad as Hillary. When Hillary ran against Trump, Biden wanted to run, and they talked Biden out

of it to let Hillary have another shot. She lost, you know, she lost out to Obama, you know in the primaries. Well, she wanted to run against Trump, and Biden said, there's gone wait a minute, I was just VPS my turn. You know, you think about Gore when he was VP, Well it was only natural that he run the very next election. But that always holds. I mean, it seems to me like that always happens if you have a president who finishes a run. Yeah, it always happens. But it didn't. You know, this time,

it didn't. Joe stepped aside for Hillary and she lost. Right, So for her to come back on the ticket to save this thing, that's going to be a haul. That's gonna be a hard sale to Biden to let her on as vice president at the convention replace Kamala, And I just I want him to do it, just so I can see Kamala's head explode. Well, and you start complaining about the process, and I'm thinking, you

know, you Democrats, you got exactly you talk about karma. This is a perfect example of karma coming back to bite you in the ass when you least expected. And it's beautiful to watch. Well, what's funny to me is, look, nobody's gonna stick Hillary in there. Okay, I know I'm gonna hear that theory from some people at some point very soon. That's not gonna happen because I mean, well, it's plausible. Now, you'd have to be you would have to be slower than Biden looked last night to

think that's a good idea. No way in hell Hillary is a dead duck candidate. There is no way she's despicable. She put her on as vice president, hoping that Biden can pull out the wind with her as the VP. In the very minute that you know, win, five steps down, Hillary becomes president and we're all stuck with it. I know about if the Democrats want to get back at somebody, that's a good way to do it. I know you want the Democrats to look like a Batman villain, but

that's how stupid that is right there. Let's just replace the Let's just replace the mayor who got injured in a bombing with two face right now in the race, right and the penguin will also run against him. No, you can't do you laugh at it, but you look, you look at the state of the Democrat Party right now. They have created the worst situation that could possibly be in. They now have a candidate that it's almost too late

to replace. In fact, I think he is in two states. I think the deadline was a couple of days ago about you know, having people in on your ballot. But they they have to. They have somebody they've got to replace, and they have nobody to Every choice to replace him with is even worse. So what do you do now? And especially when you throw Kennedy in there, and his chances are training away votes. So you're not going to replace Biden unless he voluntarily steps down, and Jill ain't gonna

let that happen. Well this, unless he backs out of it, you can't replace him. So the only thing you can do is replace the VP, hoping that you can put somebody on there that the Dems will go okay, Well, at least if you know, you know, old Sleepy Joe finally gives up the ghost, at least we've got somebody that can take the helm, or we can stand bag him once they win the election and they can take the helm. So who else have you got besides Hillary Qauler in

Florida? Hold on just a second. I'm gonna get you on as soon as I can. Here. I just need to get one point across and then I'm gonna shut up, and I want to turn it over to you guys completely. And the last point is just this, This, in my mind, is there shot in the ass. Not because of all that, but because of what they did to Bernie Sanders and because of what they decided to do to not even give RFK Junior a shot. Those two things is

why this is happening right now, and it's all it's all theater. Anyway. I told you that this is going to be engineered to install Trump. It doesn't matter what he does at this point. It just doesn't matter. His supporters are his supporters. It's it's the way it is. If the vote was completely across the board, this is done to put Trump in there. When in the hell was this? Where was the architecture of this thing? When did it take place? No, I'm not going taking the Democrats

too much credit. You're thinking that the Democrats are taking it in the taking it in the butt right now, and they're doing it on purpose. There's no way in hell. There's too many egos involved. The Democrats, through their own seer stupidity and their unquenched drive for power, put themselves in this position. You can go with this as all architecture just to set up Trump and put them in Nah, that's bull. No, there's no way you can make that work. No way. The difference here is very simple.

It is this. There are true believers in the system and that think that somehow this thing still functions a certain way, and then there's others who say, you know what, I know this is just staged and it doesn't matter. So it's a very longing No, do you completely right off the ability for the Democrats to seek themselves in the foot? Do you honestly say that

the Democrat is going to go and step toe on a sprint? There's no way the Democrats put themselves in this position because they're just so damn stupid. Yeah, oh, that's too simple. That's perfect exactly, because that's what they do, nothing but form circular firing squads, screw each other over. It's like throwing rats in a bucket. Whoever they don't kill or eat on the way up. It doesn't matter because they ain't getting out the bucket the

rats. It's just the way it is so Democrats. Yeah, see the hint. Anyway, I want to get to the callers. And that's enough of my opinion for the night, because that's all I see is that, as I said, it's gonna be absolutely engineered, so there is no other alternative, and that's the way it's gonna look. And actually this looks better than the last couple of things they pulled off. It was hard to believe that anybody was enthusiastic about Biden. I mean I found that whole North Carolina

thing completely staged. By the way today the call and response was perfect. I mean it was almost like rehearsed. It was great. It was like a being in a Baptist church. Yes you can, right on time. The crowd cheers all at once in between his words, perfectly stopping while he makes his statement. Tell me, people, do you think that was not somehow staged anyway? Forget it, it doesn't matter. I'm crazy. Let's get to you guys out there. Okay, no, no, no,

no, you're compareing apples and plyers. You're comparing a campaign stop where the crowds worked over. No, I'm not four or five people. I'm exactly what's going on is being scripted versus this whole scenario, the whole past three years being scripted to put Trump back in office. I still want you to tell me when this thing was all drawn up. Oh no, I really would like to go. You got it, man, Never You're right, I lose. I have no desire to continue that conversation. And your point,

don't just give up. Don't know the Democrat and just give up and take the ball and go home. Explain it to me. I really would like to hear when this all was scripted, when this all came together, did they use a Wiji board and a set of old RNs bones. You don't need it, if you see that's the thing. You don't understand the premise. If you control this from the top, it doesn't matter who sits in the chair. It's irrelevant. It's all there just for theater. And

if I can't get that across, then forget it. My premise falls apart. You're right exactly, so leave it me. It is what it is. It was never engineered, right. I'll tell you a long time if you are terrible and trying to explain your position, because you just give up because there's no point. You think this is legitimate, You think any of this crap is legitimate. You could and I'm adding on the campaign stop,

I'm not explaining that a specific here. I think the situation going on in Democratic Party right now, yes, it is legitimate because those ass hats can't get together and decide on what they're gonna do, and they think that what they're doing is so slick. It's just pulling the wool over everybody's eyes. This thing was when this started when Biden won after whatever Sinanigan's got pulled during COVID and people know that there were they were allowing things to happen that were

illegal and did not go through state legislatures, and Biden won. Are you gonna tell me what eighty one million people voted for that clown? Ain't no way in hell, No, you missed it. Besides, they're telling me the situation right now in the Democrat Party is orchestrated. There's no way you could orchestrate this level of stupidity. No, you don't have to orchestrate. See, that's the thing. That's why I said, there's no point in

going into this. It's like arguing with somebody that Santa Claus doesn't exist because they see him on every TV show. I'm telling you there's no point in discussing it because I'm explaining to you that it's irrelevant. This is all for us to sit here and think that there's some difference, and there isn't. Now, you put a bunch of idiots in a room that are perfectly happy to shoot each other in the foot. Yes, that works out nicely.

They will organically do that, true, but they're doing it because that's just the way it's supposed to go. You know, they don't realize it even you know, it's just like any anywhere else. Try and explain to somebody that you know, like like the let's go total Q for just five seconds. You know, Trump is being attacked by the deep state. They're all coming after them. Okay, that assumes that the government that selected him,

that the government he ran. Okay, some of the very same people he appointed are all turning on him, right, Okay, Cool, it's not a matter of that this is not a real thing. It's a matter of that it didn't count to begin with. Okay, it's not relevant. You know, it doesn't change your life if you know the Undertaker beats Hulkogan, it just doesn't. It's it's anyway, it doesn't matter. I'll take whatever position you say. I'll say you're right, because they give up. I

don't want my opinion on here. This show is not for me to discuss my opinion. I just throw it out there as I find it funny. And it's happening precisely like I said, watches all of his Well, they're coming after him. The're gonna nail him. They might throw them in jail, watches all that collapses, and watches he's reinstalled while everything falls apart. And that's exactly the way it's supposed to go. Perfect. That's all I have to say about it. Now you can say, well, all right,

tell me when they engineered it. I don't have their plans. I don't know what it's like to control something like that. I have never been the overlord of the situation, you know. And so there's people that think that there is actually some competition involved here, and there's some other people that think it's rigged. You know a lot of people. I think rastling's real. All Right, it's okay. I don't mind whatever way you want to

go with it. But I laugh because I have to. All Right, now, let's get to the callers, because I don't want to keep them on hold, and we've already kept one guy on hold this whole time. Well, I'm telling you, I'm not going to defend it. I'm not going to defend that position, not at all. I see it. It is what it is. And if you don't want to see it, you don't want to see it, see it your way, You see it your way. I'll see it mine that's perfect. It's the way it's supposed to

be anyway. All right, So let's get to the first caller in Florida. Who I'm sorry I've kept you on hold this long, but as I said, I just wanted to make the one point and let it go. But anyway, here we go. You are alive and I speak. It's all on you, all right, Jack, It's christ from Florida. How you doing tonight? Hey, Chris doing okay? If you want to make it. Yeah, if I would have known that y'all did the last time

last night, I would have caught in listening to it. Sorry. I tried to tell peoples some other people that kept talking over the whole damn thing. Yeah, I look, I tried not to talk over it too much, and I tried to only really do any talking during the commercial breaks. They gave us two commercial breaks during the ninety minute segments, and you know, I ran with it there, but anyway, and I wanted to discuss it before and after, but nobody called in. It was funny people were

listening. But okay, look, man, on you whatever you want to talk about. As a matter of fact, if you don't want to talk about this, and you want to tell me about the latest serial killer in Florida, or if you want to tell me something else, go for it. It's on you. Whatever you want. Open, open field, Chris. Well, we're going to continue it on the same trajectory. But I

want to kind of tie into what you were saying. And you know the quote A great actor about Kilmer, you know, and you know, talking to bep here, I'll be a Hucklebertt, you know, if you want to talk about how the system than rigged and Trump is being he was put in this position to where Biden was set up to sell to make him the winner, least in the public's mind. Okay, that's what we're looking at there. You know, they're setting Trump up for the win. Yes,

maybe they'll kick Biden out last minute. Maybe not. I mean, who the hell knows, but I don't want it's that's kind of a win for Trump at this point. You're gonna have a very hard time convincing VP to that. So prepare yourself to answer some questions. They're gonna be tense if he asked them. Uh, just telling you so, Okay, VP's he wants to defend that idea, So go ahead, let him defend it. I mean, what's the what's the main premise that this is all scripted?

Okay, fine, what are they gonna do come convention time? They're gonna keep Biden? Ory' gonna kick him out? We don't know, do we where's the script? No, we don't, but we do know that. But what happened like last night was the perfect I mean, they sent him in there, you know, in this current state. And I do honestly believe, Yes, there have been times in the past, for you they've doped this up, you know, got them high on something, you know,

performing a little bit of a higher capacity. And what they did last night is they just it's not regularly by it. And if you want to believe that, you know, to enful the purview of the public so that way the public loses faith in them. Well, Chris, let me ask you a quick question. You had what the CNN panelists immediately after start,

you know what they were immediately bad mouthing Biden performance. Well, let me turn the current narrative fall out because anything else what else could they do put bad mouth is performance? You know, there's there's when you put something on print or you do a show. You know, you're gonna come up with a lot of these guys. They give their opinions and things like that. Okay, that's fine. We realized we're getting editorial and not actual news.

But when you just witnessed what you saw in that debate, how could they not criticize his his his performance? It was that your question real quick? I just I just want to ask one quick you think about you Well, wait a second, I want to ask one quick question about that. Both of you need to answer a question on the mainstream media right now. Both of you need to answer a question for me. Then Okay, you're saying, well, they couldn't do anything else, Well, that's bull be pete.

Because the Democrats had talking points ready to roll. They were coming right out of the mouths of Kamala and it was all about, look, he don't judge him on this. You know he had a bad night. Okay, uh, you judge him on his past few years that he's doing so great with. And if CNN had the DNC talking points, because they're supposed to be a liberal outlet, right, then they could have ran with the same talking points. Why didn't they do that? Right? So they didn't

just because somebody has a script doesn't mean everybody got to read it. It is all I'm saying. And I don't think they gave him the DNC talking points because Kamala and and Anderson Cooper there, you know, Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper, a CIA trained journalist. Okay, was not able to keep up with her ridiculousness. You even said the look on his face was like, I can't believe I'm listening to this, because it was he looked about as dead as Biden did. Right, So so anyway, Chris, look, there's

no way they had the same talking points. BP says, Now, what else could they do? Because it was that ridiculous to watch. Well, I've seen ridiculous things on TV, and I've heard news reporters immediately after describe it in a way where I go, what in the hell clip were you just watching? I've seen that before one hundred times. What were you just

watching? The way you're describing it is insane. And you know what, we live in that age where they'll sit there, stuff's on fire and everything else, and you'll hear about peaceful protests and you know, and notice I didn't insert whose protests, but yeah, go ahead, right, I would say mostly yeah, well mostly peaceful whatever. But either way they'll try and spin something even if you're looking at explosions and fire and people getting shot,

they'll go. But there was a peaceful transition of power today. I mean, this is what they'll do. With the straight faced reporters. They had no clue about what to say after this. It was sort of like, oh my god, I don't believe what we just saw. It was bad anyway, they were not on the same script. Kamala had a script and she was going with it, and it echoed through every Democratic surrogate across the media for the rest of the night. Oh look, you know, it

started out rough, but it got bad. And some of them, you know who didn't get read in, who were not given the DNC notes, were sitting there hanging their heads, going, maybe it's time to replace Biden? Can we replace Biden immediately? But the rest of them that were read in, they all had the same exact wording that Kamala had. And you don't believe me, go look at it. Every network had a different you know, talking head that they brought in studio. You know, people weren't

all on site. This time and boom they had the talking point. So anyway, please continue, though, what what what is the what is the issue at this point? You know it's it's staged. Okay, what is your next question? B beat about it not being uh a stage, that this is completely like, you know, not a setup to install Trump. What's your next question. I don't have any questions because that's not my I don't agree with the premise that this is all set up to install Trump.

Okay, I know, but see, but that's my point I want to think about. I think that's crazy that you can think. You know, Okay, when did this grand cabal start? The minute that they that Biden was elected and they saw what Biden was doing, we got to get Trump back. You're there, No, I'm telling you that this was the intention. Comes the perfect fall guy, not the interrupt but comes the perfect fall guy. And that's you know, I mean, most likely he's part of

the game, you know what I mean. But he's the perfect fall guy. You know, he's got just managed to rally up everybody on the right, or the majority of them, anybody that believes in conservative Christian values. I mean, he's he's managed to rally up a good portion of that community.

He's the perfect fall guy. He's the perfect guy to rally up a bunch of suckers, you know, and keep them distracted for you know, another period of time while they continually undermine our you know, our constitutional values and our country. I mean my personal opinion. I mean, and since I've adopted my opinion, I mean, I've heard many other people start to talk about the same damn thing. And I believe I've meant to do under

show before that. Know, they're going to set him, they're going to put him in there, and they're going to employ the economy most likely. Well that was what we were to do. That No, that's why they got Trump out of there. See, that's the thing. It was a new Trump for the to just drum it up to the you know, to just amplify it to the degree. I mean, we need him to you know, command to everybody. You know, we're all racist and all this kind of stuff. I mean, what was a Democrat off? That's we

won't get that. You know, we need a Republican then the only Republican candidate is Trump? And why wait, why do we suddenly need a Republican? I mean if this thing is all stripted. Why do we need the Republican in office? If it doesn't matter who's in office. Why has it got to be the Republican to get the populars behind us. There are a lot of people that are down the middle of the road that don't like Trump, but they've already said we're voting for him because they got no other choice,

only other choices Biden. So I mean, I don't I don't see. I'm not seeing where all this is fit, messing together and fitting. Why does it have to be Trump or Republican to take over from Biden? Because if you're gonna make a disaster, you got to put the guy in there who it's plausible to make the disaster happen. And he got it both ways here. Oh, you don't like that. It's been too stressful with

this guy doing what he's doing. You're getting set up for the kill here and then COVID comes in and you know, warp speed and all that. Okay, boom, everything's on the collapse. Now stick the Democrat in there, who you know can't can't function perfect. He'll be the nicer guy and he won't be able to function. You're gonna beg for this guy back and

watch what happens next. And and by the time everybody's done, they're all going to be washing their hands of the thing, going, well, you know, we had this is this is why we have this experiment in democracy, and we let people vote because you know, and this is what we got. And uh yeah, and now let's go back to sanity. Don't you want to sing? So the next guy they try and interject in here

is going to be let's let's return to sanity finally. Okay, no more of these guys who can't function or refuse to function one or the other. But let's get back to that. I that's that's the trend. I see. But you know again, I'm nuts, and Chris is independent of me doing this. It's not me who influences Chris here. But anyway, Chris, go ahead, and you know, say whatever else you got. I know we got you. I think it's Jimmy James on the line, and

there might be somebody else let me go take a look. But Chris, go and speak your mind, any anything else you got to say, because we're gonna move on soon. Well, I mean, you know, I've touched on the step previous times that are cult I mean, and it's all kinds of it's all correlated. I mean, I said, if you look at how every every Western based country has been basically been ran into the ground, you know, over run with the illegal ammigrant you know, you know

that that bad term. But uh, I don't coincide with the communities that are being pushed into you know, they just simply can't coexist. You have that aspect going on. You have the attack on a food supply. You know, I'm these attacks aren't by world leaders, by just people and high positions of power. You know. Eventually, bp you get to get rid of that idea, that mentality that a governments here that and that this isn't all just some bullshit spectacles, you know, just to keep us distracted,

you know, each other listening to this show long enough. If you think that I think government is here to serve us, well, don't take that as a personal attack. But I'm saying every once in a while, back and forth between telling the lines, and uh, you've that's just it though you've not. We've been doing this for six soul six years now. I have never come up and said government is here to serve us. Government is the biggest evil that we face today. They're screwing up everybody's damn life,

everybody that they can get a hold of. There, If you think I'm here, the same government's here to serve us. The less government we have, the better off we are. It's a bigger evil than the damn Democrats. But it's being fed by the damn Democrats and help keep it going. They love government, that's Democrats and the Republican government. But that government ought to have control over every aspect of your life. And that's the way democrats

think. Well, but see that's the weird. But it's not just Democrats. You get the Republicans laying in the shadows, still voting in the same directions. I mean, it's it's not just Democrats. There's both parties. There, two heads of the same snake, the two wings of the same bird. I mean, well, it's it's the same. It's a it's

a unit party. That's what we're looking at, and we've been looking at Chuck, Chuck, how many years ago did we first start discussing then to opening up the elections to any party out there that wants to run, so that we get a coalition running dis government instead of look, i'd love to see this ag what what what has Chris? We see? Okay, Chris, I'm gonna put you on hold because I want to get to the other callers, all right, but I will come back around to you. Okay,

anyway, I'm putting Chris on hold. But here's the thing. You think that one party is better than the other, and that this is really the only bone of contention between the two of you, is that you think one party is actually worse or one party is better than the other. And his contention and mine also coincidentally, is that it doesn't matter. It really does not matter in the long run which one you install, because the results are going to end up the same anyway. At this point, now you

want to get the money out of there. You want to open it up to actual you know, ideas instead of alleged party you know that don't even match the descriptions of the damn things that they were ten years ago, forget about thirty years ago. This is the thing that's the difference here is that you think would be better off with one as opposed to the other. Maybe, and the people of the mindset or a similar mindset to mine and Chris is are. It doesn't matter, they're the same thing. It ends up

with the same end result anyway. Doesn't matter which person you install for a little while, you're gonna get the same crashes, You're gonna get the same boom and bus cycles. You're gonna get the same Still, the rich benefit. It's just maybe you know, one side of the table benefits with these guys, the other side of the table benefits with the other guys. But still it's the same rich people table, the same round table. And that's the difference. Now, let me get to everybody else, because we got

we got Jimmy, and we got some others. And I don't want to cut Jimmy short. I'm sure he's got some things to say here. And yeah, so nine one sticks hang on, you're after Jimmy, all right, But let me get to Jimmy here, because he's been waiting a while. To Jimmy. That's you right there you go, the guys so nice twice there you go and one of the guys actively hanging out if you roll back the chat room from last night, actively in there talking to me and

a face shifter regarding what we were listening to. It was unbelievable points of

agreement last night. Jimmy, I'll say this now verbally on this show right here, that you know, if I didn't have any predisposed opinion whatsoever, if I was somebody who believed in the system and thought my vote counted, let me tell you, if I listened to that debate last night, Trump won it hands down that I was saying about ten minutes in Okay, it only took me ten minutes to make that decision, and nothing dissuaded me from it ever after. And I don't think he quite killed or whatever it was

he did to Medicare. They didn't beat Medicare yet, I don't think. And whatever other stumbling mumbling he was doing, falling asleep maybe, and I kept saying at the very beginning, actually, the first thing I think I said was somebody get Grandpa some water because he needed it. I mean, how can you even let an old man sit there not being able to clear his throat, regardless of who he is, Mercy, come on, I

mean his own people. I mean, I know his staffers weren't allowed to coach him or approach him, but somebody could have found a way to slip my bottle of water, for God's sake, I mean, and the ear piece didn't help. I know they weren't supposed to have those, but they both had earpieces and they didn't help. Trump, however, was pretty controlled, and I think partially because he didn't have a crowd to get him riled

up. So he wasn't doing call in response and that's what you get without the call and response crowd is what you got out of Trump last night. But he wanted hands down and that was ten minutes in. Jimmy, did he win it or did Biden lose it? Both? I'm not too impressed by Trump's positions either. Yeah. Really he's done better, let's put it that way. Maybe so, But they were coherent sentences, I mean, you know, really coherent sentences for Trump. I mean, he was on

good behavior. No, you don't think so. He was doing what his trainers told him. Just stay cool, don't overreact, and you've got this thing licked. Yeah, but see that knew what was coming. But that's the beauty of it. Gets lost and is gruel, see, but that's the beauty of it. He almost never listens to his advisors telling him. Look, chill out, man, don't don't keep going at that. And he doesn't screw that I'm doing it anyway. You know, he does that

in his public performances. So I'm trying to tip my hat. This was the controlled Trump who control himself didn't go over the line too, man. I mean it took Biden to pull out the whole while you were banging a porn star, which was funny. Uh you know Trump? Wait wait, wait wait, that was the one opportunity that Trump could have slam dunk this thing. If we'd just come back and said, well, tell us, mister president, at what age did your daughter stop taking showers with you?

And the whole thing would have died right there. You'd have seen too. I would have loved to seem to look on Jake Tapper's face if Trump would have just said, okay, well tell us, Joe, at what age did you stop making your daughter take showers with you? Boom? I thought it was Hunter that was having his niece takes a shower right there. Well, I'm confused. I thought Hunter was having his niece take showers with him. It was Biden has daughter. I'm confused. Yeah, all right,

Well I don't know. But the thing is Trump turned around and basically said I didn't sleep with a porn star end a story, which again is a limited response, but like I said, it was like he actually pulled back and did the appropriate thing. You don't punch yourself out just because the other guy looks, you know, don't get yourself ropodope the other guy looks beat. Don't punch yourself out, beaten on him if he's already beat. So to me, that was actually a smart Trump last night. So I said,

both Biden lost did and he wanted. Jimmy, you're probably stunned because I'm making positive remarks about Trump, but please, I want to shut up and let you speak. Go ahead, Jimmy. Well, yeah, the thing is that my friend and Florida wanted to go there, even though I didn't want to discuss politics this evening. Well we have been so I guess I'm gonna go there. You don't have to, Oh you want to be huh? I feel I feel it's my dude, you now, okay,

whatever, gimme allow your spear to guide you. You know, yeah, I gotta I gotta follow my guide animal. We called so well, who is your spirit. Who is your spirit animal? Who is it? Perfect? I'm glad you asked. It's a werewolf named John Nice. So what does John deem necessary? Jimmy James, Well, keep the mands a lot

of things. That's why I gotta kind of tune that guy out. Anyways, whenever I could get five minutes of just unloading, just letting now and otherwise, didn't you say there's another fella waiting on the line too, sure, I mean as well. Yeah, I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll go to the other fella. You load yourself up, I'll come back when we and I'll take break. I'll come back when we come back from the break. Five minutes. Be Pete, you agree with me, We'll

let Jimmy have five minutes to do whatever he wants. What do you think, be Pete? Yeah, Be Pete might be talking to his mute button. I'm sitting here. We've got sorry, I got somebody in the room. I'm wondering if it's Gland or if it's your buddy that wants to come in and start talking crap in the room. So well, let him kind of divide it between them two, all right? Let him I want to focus on the show itself because the chat room is is secondary. I'm sorry,

but it is. The thing is this be Pete. I have a plan in mind. I'm gonna put Jimmy on hold. We're gonna get to the other caller, take a break. When we come back, we give Jimmy five minutes to do whatever he wants. He's got five minutes that he wants to unload, unmolested. I say, we do it. What do

you think cool? Give him dan however long he needs. Okay, So Jimmy, I'm gonna put you on hold right now and we'll get to that other caller, all right, right now, and after this caller, we'll go to a break and come back and let Jimmy unload for five minutes, and then I assume all hell will break loose. Anyways, let's go yep, nine six area code. You are live nine one six area code. So what's on your mind? It's all open. Anything you want to discuss.

I don't care. We could do a Florida Mans story, you can tell me about movie theater, popcorn, or we could continue talking about the debate. It's up to you. Yeah, it's it's Danny Chuck I'm probably one of the few that actually I missed the debate. I was working, so so what I did do is I did listen to the fallout of it, and it's it would sound like it was pretty bad. I certain moments of Biden's rambling. It would just I just I think they that's one of

the reasons why they have the estabate so early. And I think that there's probably mean the word still be a change in the Democratic Party by the convention time. So you're you're a true believer who believes that they will have to swap him out because it's just so obvious, even though they're trying to do damage control today. And by the way, I find it hilarious, sorry, because California comes up here. I fight it hilarious that with a straight

face. Once again, you know, meet muppets in the MSM are out there seriously saying, you know, Cavin Newsom might be somebody to consider if you want half the country. He was already hostile to California at this point. Okay, literally, it's like, what's the worst place in the country. California. You know, the seed of evil if you're a Trumper, the seat of evil. If you're a Republican is California and Gavin Newsom is

practically the under Satan, you know, because he's not quite satan. I think that's somebody else's job right now, but he is practically the under Satan according to the alleged conservatives out there. You're not gonna put Gavin Newsom in a national election. If you do, then you know you're really really trying to throw the fight here. But anyway, what do you think do you think they would actually try and float your governor? Did he say anything today?

I missed it. If he did, Uh No, Gavin Newson's actually playing a pretty safe through best. I've got a feelings I have. I have a couple of ideas in mind and who they're going to party. They're either going to party go with either the governor from Pennsylvania Sapiro or maybe Gret Listener from Michigan. I got a film. They're going to make a promise

to come Camelot, and you're probably gonna get the governor from Maryland. What's his name, Wes Moore, because he's the the only black governor of which I think is currently serving, and he is a he is a combat war veteran if I'm not mistaken, So I got a film that's gonna go that way because those Pennsylvania, Michigan are in play for the election. I'm not saying that Newsom doesn't want to give a shot. I mean, as much as I do want to dislike the guy, he is a good campaigner.

I mean he fits for California. But I mean I'm not I'm not in the rest of the country, so I don't know what the thoughts are. Well, you don't think point out nicely. Okay, Now interesting stuff because I saw this among Democratic bloggers. A lot of the names that you just mentioned, including Whitmer. But to me, anti California sentiment in certain parts

of this country disqualify Newsome from even trying. Maybe I'm wrong, you know, look, maybe I'm wrong, but at this point, I swear to you it's like the two couple of things that they always mention if they want to talk about what's wrong with the Democrats. And here's my examples. Chicago first, obviously, and you know a street violet of Chicago Chicago. Next

thing they'd go to is either Seattle or California. And then they finish out with again either Seattle or California as the examples of what's wrong with the left, Liberals, Democrats, everything. So I don't see that they're gonna be able to I don't even think even if Arnold was born in this country, I don't think they could even run the governator up there as a Democrat and make it work. Okay, I know he's not a Democrat, but it

doesn't matter. I think that they're not gonna make it. I mean, the only person that might still live in California they might be able to run his Oprah. Other than that, I don't see it anyway. Anything else you want to add to this though, By the way, Danny, just go ahead. Yeah. I have one more, one more personally possible that I thought that they may want to run, and that that's actually a Democratic

governor from a red state, and that's Sandy Basher from Kentucky. He's really strong on labor, and he may because looking at the polls, he might be interesting, but I'm not. Those are just some of my thoughts. Whi's possibly that makes that makes sense, Like Gavin is in some of the polls they've shown that he could possibly be Trump. I mean, he's not a bad debater. As much as I want to dislike him at times, I mean he's interesting. I mean, he's he kind of he's kind of

has that hig factor sometimes. But when I've actually heard him talk about very complex issues here in California, he's not. He's not an empty suit. So I'm just going to say that. I mean, there's take prejudice of society. When you get him down into the subject matter, he knows about it. He's he come across pretty sharp and confidence. Just some of my thoughts. Would you call yourself somebody on the left nanny though? I mean, honestly, are you? Would you identify that way that I'm kind of

a Democrat leaning lefty kind of person. Well, well, well let me put it this way. I was born and raised in a conservative Republican family. I left the Republican Party in eighty six. It depends how you look at my life. I mean, I served in the Marines, and you know, I'm at Mass every Sunday. I've been you know, I'm a blue collar. You know, I don't know what it's like to work forty

hours a week. I've been, you know, married forever. I mean, everything with pain, I rid within my means, you'd probably say my lifestyle is a conservative when it comes to economics and foreign policy. I'm the left of the Democratic Party. I'm an independent. I'm a bleeding heart. Okay. I would consider myself on what they called the Christian left, if that makes any sense. But that's the way Democrat party. But I moved far away from the conservative movement. So I'm not a conservative. Okay,

I got you. So you're generally speaking a conservative living Democrat, but you'd think they don't go far enough to the left in a lot of ways, not necessarily social stuff, but when it comes to other things like you know, certain policies, and Okay, because I want to point out that, Okay, So I just want to point out that somebody who is rational on the left. Okabpete does not mention Hillary in this in this sentence, right

about Lee, who can you replace? There's no Hillary replacement here. That is the fantasy of people that want to see that the Democrats completely implode in front of you. Nobody. And he's from California. Notice he doesn't really push up forward. Hey how about Kamalist he's right there. He doesn't even suggest that he's from California, he should be on their side. And being

on their side, he's like, well, Whitmer. You know, there's some other people that seem to have, you know, their crap together. You see what I mean. There is no rational way that they could put up half of these fantasy candidates that people have in mind for the Democrats for them to lose, because even they know, you know, it's like, look, we're willing to shoot ourselves in the foot, but nobody wants to

go out like Tony Montana here. Okay, I mean, you know, shooting yourself in the foot's one thing, but I'm not going to say hello to my little friend and let him pump people eighty nine bullets and that's what you would get with one of these others. But anyway, so Danny, you know, whatever else it is you want to say, or you know, because I think we do need to get to a break. We're over an hour now and we haven't gone to any breaks at all, and I

do need to break, just straighten a few things out. But anything else you want to add here, well, no, I'll listen to ahead and I'll gather myself. Thank you excellent. So I'm gonna put you on hold and uh ooops, oops, wait a minute, I accidentally took Jimmy James off hold. Hold on, Jimmy, I'm not going to you early. Okay, uh You're gonna get your full five minutes on the other side of

the break. But for this now, I'd like to turn to be Pete and give you the last word on this segment before we go to a break. I'm well, I don't know, I've so suddenly I've become lectured to on exactly how politics and everything works, so we might as well go to break. I got nothing, miss ring. Hey, I don't claim to know how it all works. I just see the general larger scheme. But

I'm not saying I know how it all works. Never, never, never, matter of fact, I'm the dumbest guy on this show right now, as far as I'm concerned. Clearly, I'm the dumbest and craziest guy on the show. So you know, by all means, whatever it is you want to throw in or if you want to go to other news, we can do that too. I mean, hey, it's up to you.

I mean, I've only promised Jimmy James that five minutes and I'll get back around with these other guys and anybody else who wants to join in at three one nine, five two seven five zero one six, or reach out to me Charles dot Ocelly on Skype. All the way up to we should have the age of transitions this week. I know last week I said we had it, but all the way up to showtime I thought we did, and

Aaron didn't make it home on time, so we couldn't. But this week we do have the age of transitions at ten, so all the way up to there, we got plenty of time to have a conversation. Anything else you want to throw in, they'll be pete. Or just go to the break. Let's just go ahead to the bright and we'll come back and see what Jimmy's got to say. Fair enough, I am looking forward to five minutes of Jimmy James, and hopefully you are too. One more time three

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I'm Charles dot Ocelli. But otherwise, dial in your phone and hey, it's your five seconds of fame at least three one nine, five two seven five zero one six, And we're going to give five minutes to the one and only Jimmy James right about now. There's little delay when I'm pressing the buttons on the phones. Guys. Sorry, So there we go. Jimmy, you're live. Sorry about the delay. There you're live, and there's your five minutes. Brother. All right, well that might be plus

for probably more likely minus a little. I will work, hope. But just the case I said five minutes, well, I little ast sling of course to the little conversation, and I find b Peachs comment, Well, his question's quite valid, and it always comes down to this silly game. Who's on first, who's on second, who's the man? Who's the man. But there's never an answer, well, who's in charge of the president

exactly? Well, this one that would be Obama, But under any other the president, the answer would be no one unless they choose to be an asset of someone or, in the case of Joe Biden, is incapacity, sort of like President Wilson was in the waning years of his Progressive Democrat agenda

over one hundred years ago. Now, I suppose, And that's what I find most interesting about the Democratic Party of today, in the Democrat Party of one hundred years ago, even while they were still the Confederate Party, waning off and being their ranks filled with eugenics, eugenists who inspired the likes of Adolph Hitler, Lennin Stalin, all these people that made our lives so very

interesting in the twentieth century. And I also think it's interesting that in the last eight years this game of playing pretend that there's nothing different about one party than the other, and the news media and the bureaucracy conspiring with the DNC so obliquely, so opaquely. It's insulting. It's pretty damned insulting. Anyways. The one thing that links the Confederate Democrats of one hundred years ago and the Marxist Democrats of today is I just can't help it to notice that they

have always been and always will be. I suspect, above all other things, they are always anti anti communists. And I remember Jordan mock max Well coloring this world conspiracy, referring to it as a communist conspiracy. And I think that's about right, Marxist, communist. I don't care what you want to call it. It's un damn American. And as far as there being no difference between the two parties, and I'll start out by saying, probably none of you new people might know this, but I'm a yeah, I'm

a Republican, a George Washington Republican. I mean, if I had it my way, there wouldn't be any political parties in this country. Let's see some minor differences that you guys say don't seem to matter in our lives. Well, let's see the Democrat platform currently supports post birth abortions. They do not recognize that there are only two genders. They're saying anyone who says they are a woman is a woman. They hire prosecutors who do not prosecute crime,

which you know hasn't been working out too good for the cities. They have open borders, illegal aliens into tens of millions, murdering and raping little girls, and in general running in the excess of riots. They've turned every city into a living hell, all run by Democrats. Of course, because people are policy. You put shit in, you get shpit out. There is a difference between the parties. Nonetheless, I have the solution, but you guys never want to even bring this up. You want to add more

political parties. I say, we hold the Convention of States and we have vote on amendments. Thirty six states would have to agree, and the what I would like to see pushed is the banning of all political parties from the face of the earth. I would like term limits being single terms. Serving in governments should feel a lot more like jury duty and a lot like a lot less like you won the lottery. In general, lay time is over with. There is justice, that it is going to be returned to the

land. I assure you, well, if not, I guess I'll just do what you folks do and say, well, the Kraken's gonna get us. No point of participating or resisting or fighting. We give up, no point of voting or participating in the system or doing anything that could actually make a difference. We'll just blame it on demand. Why did so many people work so hard to get black Americans the right to vote, or for that matter, what are women to vote? And now people don't even choose to

vote. All the struggles and the most simplest, simplistic thing in a country, next to maybe jury duty. It's not like anyone's asking you to serve in the military. It takes five minutes in a clear does matter? If you say that your life was it better off five years ago than it is now, then you seek professional medical mental attention, most likely because I don't know what you got going on. I know I can't even hardly pay to

feed myself these days. Everything is one hundred and seventy five percent increase to price by my observations. That's no, it's a figure. That's just what I see, and it's mostly due to the increase and the prices of fuel. I could keep going all of what am I doing? On time? Oh, you already went over your time. But I'm just letting your role because I mean, look, what can I say? First of all, it's incorrect that I disagree with you. I want to add more parties.

I'm with you about Let's eliminate the parties, Let's eliminate the money. You're right, government servants should just be there like it's jury duty. That's all correct. Next thing is, you know what if I wanted to be, you know, figure out the quality of my life. I was doing great under Bill Clinton. I did good under half of Obama's time personally, uh you know, and I did on the clot the thing I want to find out. So yes, domestically things seemed off you and the international stage.

Now we are paying for all of his blonde dues. Absolutely absolutely by Jimmy. Jimmy, you're jumping wait, well, hold on, hold on, hold on, stop, stop, stop stop. You jumped on me before I even got to tell you that the punchline. Let me finish, because I said, under half of Obama and under all the time Bill Clinton was in office, I was doing a lot better half of George W. Bush's time, not the first half, the second half of this time. I was doing better. And you know what, I am doing a lot worse

right now than I was five years ago. You're right, but here's the thing. You do pay for the crap that dese guy's pull while they're in office. A couple of years later, every time Bill Clinton basically put our country on bad credit card debt and said, look, we're doing well. You got you know, and ran us into into an area that set the table for the nonsense we're in now. And you know what w did.

He ran with it and ran the wars, did what he you know, what everybody wanted him to do, and ran us just about off the cliff. And then Obama grabbed it and continued the policies. But the thing is, if I was to gauge it based on how well I was doing,

the worst time in my life was under what Ford and Carter. Then I had a horror show during Reagan in the I love it, and Bush did us no good favors except he made us all feel good in my in my worldview, he made us all feel good because we won the war when it came to Desert storm. But outside of that, every time you look at the craft that they set up. Hang on, though, every time you look at the craft they set up. I've told you before I regret having

voted for Bill Clinton because I see what the guy did. He set us up so that we were gonna choke on the garbage that he set up ever after. I mean, that's what he did. And yet that was one of the best times of my life, as far as you know, being able to feed myself, it was easy. I could actually get a job

and support myself. I could do a lot of things. And you know what, even hw Bush did us did me a favor personally with the Americans with disability stuff, which he signed into law and made it so that at least people had to be a little careful about, you know, showing prejudice against me personally. But outside of that, you know what, these guys are not the point men for getting anything done. Really, they're out there

to be the frontmen. They don't actually accomplish the things they say they're gonna no matter what. And it's always a setup. The rug is always pulled out from you afterwards. That's the way it goes. Clinton is a prime example. He was a guy I was in on it. Man. I was like, oh, I'm an independent, but you know what, I'm tired of the Bush Reagan thing. It gave a beating to certain elements of this society. Whether you want to admit it or not, it did,

and I said, we need a change here. Clinton seems rational, He's kind of cool. I like you that this is not me. Now, this is me at what nineteen you know going and believe me it in nineteen. Everybody's stupid. So no, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying that it was better under these democrats. Jimmy James knew.

What I'm saying is half the time we don't even realize the damage these guys do until they're at all office, because it takes time for this stuff to roll in and kick us in the in the crotch, and that's usually the way it rolls. Now, the mess that we're in right now, man, let me tell you it is a combined effort, because in my mind, it's not that there's no difference in these little policy things they do temporarily, No no, no, no, no. Overall, they still push

the same people off the cliff. They still benefit one side of the rich equation or the other and screw over the rest of us. Right now, I'm doing the same thing you're doing. I'm finding it impossible to feed my little family that should not be. I live in the cheapest place I can the worst neighborhood I can possibly live in that I can get to, and you know what, I still can't afford to do what I gotta do. No matter what I do, and guess what I'm hearing from everybody else.

You know what, I decided to go ahead and take a little little poll among people I do to online. I don't have in person friends face to face, but you know what, I got a lot of contacts all over the place. I checked all over America to see and I'm calling this the Jimmy James metric. By the way, this is a new name for something I figured out in the chat room last night. It dawned on me finally.

Every guy I know is losing weight just about okay, And you know why we're all losing weight because we can't afford the food we could afford before. Now, if you're still eating the same garbage, you might not be losing weight if your diet was garbage to start with, okay, But if you want clean, real food, real meat, something that you're not guessing how it is they grow a chicken that large, you know, because and

take a look at the size of a chicken breast. If it's so large you can't even put it on a chicken, you're probably getting something that's loaded with steroids, you know, genetically modified et cetera, et cetera. Here's the thing. If you want to eat some garbage, you might be able to keep your weight on. But anybody who tries to be discerning about their food at all is losing weight. Every guy I know. Now, some people might say it's good for Americans to lose weight, but not when we're

being forced to abandon food. And that is the circumstance. We're all pushing back on food. Nobody can afford it. I don't know people. You know, people used talking about taking vacations this and that, but I don't know anybody who's talking like that. I don't know anybody that's even got,

you know, the good feeling of job security. All the people that I knew that were like, hey, look I had all this great job security, Like BP, you're probably the most job secure guy I know at this point in time, outside of one other person that I interact with who feels secure in their job. And I think you feel secure in your job.

You know you've got a decent job, and all that everybody else I know is that in there wondering why their wages they're so bad, is wondering why their salary is bad, is wondering why that's happening while everything else in the world is climbing up in price, and we're all getting choked by it. That circumstance nobody can deny, and nobody can say, and I don't even argue, are you better off than you were five years ago? An insane

person in America could not say that that's ridiculous. But who's actually responsible for it? I don't think it's the guy who doesn't know where he is. I gotta tell you personally, I can't hang it on Biden because he doesn't look like you can function. And you know what, I don't think the president actually has the sway that everybody thinks he does, because if he did, a lot of other things would happen. These guys come in all the time. You can note this, no matter what, whether they're BS and

US or not. Sometimes they've got legitimate ideas that they think are going to improve things. They never get to implement them. Wonder why that is? Anyway, I say, there's no difference because at the end of it, when you take a look at okay, well, we were better off with Trump. He couldn't get stuff done when he had control of both houses and the White House, except that he was able to install Supreme Court people. Now we see what that's like, and that's a mixed bag. You got

to admit that. I mean, I know some people are very happy with with the important Did you know that Trump was being conspired against? Best Speaker Brian the Senate was absolutely working against Trump. Oh well, the Speaker of the House and met Paul Ryan was forced out. And a little whisper too. Because these people at the quarter of them are rhinos. They aren't real republic because they vote with the Democrats. So in that sense, yeah,

there is a union party. Yeah, right now. I have a feeling that there's going to be lost of them soon in November after a last shoot. Been less and less of them. And the funny thing is, even the people that were bitching about Trump, when I would go take a look at how they voted. Every time the media made a big deal about them bitching about Trump, they generally voted for his stuff. So you know, those loud voices, what was their name, Murkowski or whatever, you know,

the one with the shaky head. I think it was their name Murkowski. I forget. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Even when these people were out there complained to Trump, Oh, I can't possibly go with this stuff, and then they would just check off his vote anyway until you know so, I don't understand this. Yes, every time you turn around, you don't understand people's voting records. Because even the people that are supposed to be

completely against we're not going to go with this Democrat thing. We absolutely refuse blah blah blah blah blah. How many times did they do that with the whole continuation we're going to do this with the debt ceiling involvement? And then what did they do? Comes time to vote? Click, click click, everybody votes down the line anyway. It is is so funny because all the stuff they say they're gonna do, they don't do. They're answering to the

people that wind up making them rich while they're in office. So that's why I agree with you. But that's why I agree with you. But I can't even agree with you because I'm trying to tell you this is why I agree with you. It should be more like Jerry Duty, because these people get in there and they're like a freaking staff infection. You can't get rid of them, and all they do is grow like a cancer because they're being

fed money from all the special interests and everything else. While great, Chuck, I just want to find out again, I see one big difference between the two parties. It's just based on my observation that everyone, not everyone, you know, they're they're not all exactly the same. But most Republicans who run for office were already independently wealthy before they ran for office, and sadly, most of them are seeking power. And with the Democrat side,

it's almost exactly the opposite. They always get into government so as to make money. Without almost out exception, the Clintons didn't even own a house until after they left the White House. They always had government housing. So what's your thought on that. Do you think there's any validity to that? Well, here, yes and no and the no. I'll give you the know first. Every one of these people that you say, you know, look,

I tracked a bunch of them, Republican and Democrat alike. No matter what their posision is, their wealth grows while they're in office, and it grows exponentially every time, doesn't matter if they went in there were ten dollars or ten million dollars. When they come out their books are way more snacked than you know, what their salary would account for during the time they're in office. When they finally do decide to retire, somebody has to drag them

away, Like the what was that lady from California? It was out of it and everybody forgot about her. Now I even forgot her name. You know Feinstein, right, So you know, whether you're Feinstein or your Mitch McConnell, it doesn't matter. Your wealth grows no matter whether you got a D or an R while you're in office. So indeed, it could be

that Republicans come in on a better standing than Democrats do. Could be I never really examined that for myself, but I will say they always grow their wealth quite well having a seat in Congress or the Senate one or the other. And that is demonstrable by publicly accessible stuff. And I mean, you don't got to be Bob Menendez with the gold bars and all that corruption by the way, anybody paying attention to that. You don't even got to be

that guy from Jersey, which it's too funny that he's doing that. Why not just do it the legitimate way, dude? Why not do it the way everybody else does. But anyway, he's got to have gold bars and try to blame his wife. Really comical. Wish I could cover that more. But the thing is, these guys always grow their wealth. Okay, I will, I agree. There does seem to be a major problem with insider trading in those damn legislatures. Something needs to be done about that insider

trading. And every time you pick a scab, if they've been in office, like you know, give them ten years. If they've been in office, you can find a pattern to where it is they seem to pass stuff that has something to do with the business that their husband's in, that their wife is in, that their kids are in. They're always benefiting them one

way or another, benefiting their family themselves directly and magically. Even if, like theoretically they got one hundred thousand dollars a year and they were there for ten years, you'd say, well, they made a million dollars. If they'd spent not a penny, they'd have a million dollars. They always walk away with what way more than that million dollars every time, even if they served for four years, six years and walk away, their wealth grows.

Now when you see a consistent pattern like that, and find me a Republican or a Democrat that that's not true about. I mean, you know, who was the last guy to walk away and go back to being a habitasher, right? Would would that be the guy? What was he? Jesus the guy who inherited it from Roosevelt? Right? Truman? Truman? Yeah, Truman left broke. I think outside of that. Yeah, before that, they didn't even pay ex presidence. But he was so empowered first they

had to start something. Yeah, Now there's a guy, regardless of what he did or didn't do, he went in pretty broke and he left pretty broke. So, you know, in the modern era, and you know, don't don't take me back to the don't take me back more than one hundred years. Let's just call it in the past hundred years since modern warfare definitely went live with World War One? Okay, ever since then? Find

me a politician that doesn't grow as wealth. I mean, I guess you could find some people that had one off terms maybe here or there, that maybe went in and came out about the same. But if they're in there for any length of time, they grow their wealth. It's a guarantee and way disproportionate to work they're supposed to get paid. I agree. I think that's exactly why. And we both agree on this. We made yeah, term limits, how about one term. I'm with you. I'm with you,

and you know what. The only thing that should be there is there should be a consistent thing that allows this to be coherent. For a minute, right, you have a consistent set of standards that keep things coherent. That's what should keep things coherent. These people should not be doing anything other than a civic service. Really, yes, pay their expenses. True, I believe we should pay their expenses, maybe even their housing everything for them

to go serve. Make it so that they don't have to worry about that. I mean, or I say, let's you know, these people they've got reason to go to Washington like two or three times a year. Otherwise they should be right at home like in the old days. Okay, but I wouldn't object to, you know, an apartment complex, like a couple apartment complexes, so you separate them that we're say government owned and it's government housing for the the people that got to serve. And you know what you

do, it's like a timeshare. Oh, I would do all that. Oh, I'd make it like no no, no, no, no, I'd make it like military bumps. I think you're on just something there. Oh, you know what, that's a better idea. The military can efficiently construct places that can house a lot of people. And you know what, I think they would probably do it efficiently and without it being you know, cost prohibitive, and you could house everybody just fine, no problem, and

that would be great. You know, leave the White House and tact sure, but you know, come on, make it a public service again, make it a civil servant. Make them actually you know you're serving you. Why do you want to do this because I want to serve my country. I want to make things better. Cool, go do it. You're not going to benefit from it financially. You get the benefit of making society better. That's your whole benefit. That's your whole Nope, that is not the

way this runs. These guys get in there, and the first thing they got to do before they even begin to do any legislature or anything else, is all right, your first thing is you better raise back some of that money that we just pumped into you to get you in here, and there's the game. That's the Pazzi scheme. So now about you, Chuck. But every time I've ever left a job, they always make me sign a non compete agreement where I couldn't even participate in certain things for like several years.

Any business, yep, any business where you could possibly walk away with either trade secrets or inside information, there's always a you can't screw us over. I got to tell you working for a dumb ass thing, and I know I bring it up a lot, but I worked for Exon Mobile, right, and my jobs were like running convenience stores, running gas stations,

okay, personnel management. Do you know that I had to sign non disclosure stuff when terminating my employment because they didn't want any of their stuff going to another company similar to them. So I had to sign non disclosure in order to terminate my employment properly. Okay, we don't do that in government. I mean, and I'm running convenience stores and gas pumps for christ sakes in Jersey mostly, so you're supposedly run in the country, right, So what

the hell you're right? See, I agree with you about a lot more things than you think. I don't want more parties. I don't want more crap. And I'm not on the Democrats side, believe it. I just see it as it's all the same game. Because here's the thing about it. Tell me which side of that equation doesn't benefit when they're in office like that to a disproportionate number. Tell me which one of them really has a group of people that goes in and says that they're like, you know what,

I accept my salary. I'll be happy whether it's a pay cut or an increase, and that's it, and doesn't turn around and figure out a way to you know, and like I said, increase their wealth. Which one? Because I don't see a difference there. And there are many more differences like that that you can't really differentiate. You're right, there's policy differences,

there's rhetorical differences. There's all these social issue differences. You know, the abortion thing, well, you know that's a little weird because there's seven states you can go up to the ninth month. But I don't see anything legally where you're allowed to kill a baby. That whole thing afterwards. But look, I don't want to argue. I'd want to come together on certain caps here, But the point is that I see many, many more common

elements here than I do. Differences now that could be just me, And yeah, you get differences, of course, you get different shakeups, you get different tragedies, you get different malpractice, you get you know, and like I said, look at what Biden's doing right now, And what did I say if you're going to impeach him, nail him for the fact that the mismanagement as commander in chief, he's absolutely mismanaging assets and what has happened

now and there are other people starting to say, you know, militarily, he's not doing the right thing. Whatever you're rhetorical. And by the way, it's not like I agree with the other side of the equation on what we should be doing militarily. I just know clearly that I see the commander in chief in dereliction of duty. So you know, maybe I'm crazy, but maybe not as crazy as you say it. And that's cool. But we gave you more than five minutes, and I gave you a long response.

I'm sorry, BP. I think I should put Jimmy on hold and try and get back around to the other guys. And also anything you want to throw in after listening to this what do you think. Well, you know, you can argue that the two parties are the same and find a lot of examples of it. You can argue is that there's differences in philosophy between them and find examples of it. You know, our biggest problem now

is Congress. The House representatives and the Senator are the ones that are sticking it to us, and as soon as they get there, they get instructed on how to hide their money, how to make money, and how to hide it, how to keep it away from that one agency that for some reason everybody complains about, but nobody wants to do anything about it. And that's the good old irs. You know, I can rearrange my life into LLCs and get paid dividends and things of that nature that don't qualify as income.

Or it's like Trump, you know, he was out there the other day, you know, saying, ah, tips should be tax free. Okay, well, that's great for that portion that you're you know, trying to placate and get their vote. But you know, what about my bonus? Should it be tax free? What about part of my pay? I mean, this is income that people are making, and that's the big problem with the whole tax schedule right now, that's income. Now we want to

specialize people's income in the way that they get it. Just like, who's the guy with virture halfaway that his secretary was actually making a worn buffet? You know, he gets his money through dividends and stock sales and things of that nature, which are taxed different. So okay, let's give all these restaurants personnel a break and make their tips tax free. What about the bonus

I get every year? You know, if I get a thousand dollars bonus, I only see about six hundred and fifty bucks of it because of taxes, because of the way it's classified as income. This whole system, our whole government, has gotten so big that it seems like now we can't reduce it and get it to hell out of our lives. I just as soon people leave me to hell alone. And I would really love for Washington to

leave me to hell alone. But every damn paycheck, I'm having to deal with those assholes taking my money and wasting it on themselves, and these grand ideas of things they want to do with my money. Screw them. If they weren't there, I'd have a hell of a lot more of my money. I'd just as soon do away with them. But we're stuck with this system, and until we create, until we find a way to make the government smaller, we're all screwed. The more government you got, the more

problems you got. And it doesn't matter which side of the aisle they're on. Mitch McConnell should have had his ass can years ago, but he's in that he's in that system. He's worked himself up to the top of the system, and he's protected. Now he finally said, oh yeah, well I'm going to step down. Okay, fine, Well what about the fifty damn oh Joe Biden fifty years on the government pick stucking off our taxpayer,

our taxes to be able to exist. And now he's so afraid of leaving because he knows once he's out of office, the indictments are going to start coming. You think you solve the year of the lawsuit with Trump, wait till Biden gets out and some of the craft that's going to be thrown his way. Now they're going to be legitimate chargers. I think they can make sticks. So well, well, hold on, let me ask two questions. Not if they get not if they get what they want on Monday,

right, presidential immunity. You know, that'll work for Biden too, right one? Two? Yeah, but that's that. See, that's just it. Though he was taking money when he was vice president. Oh yeah, you know, the presidential immunity doesn't doesn't fit in there. No, But I'm just saying so that'll that'll solve a lot of problems though for him right away. I mean, that'll solve problems for ever. It will solve some, It will solve some problems, but it won't solve solve all of them.

He's in too deep and unfortunately he was relying on a crackhead sun. We'll get to keep things huss huts. And what did he do? He dies documented everything on this damn computer and then forgot his computer. Well, right now, that's another example of democrats being so stupid that they create the situation that they're in and then they want to scream and cry about it. Well, give them, give them time. You know, they'll get around

to attaching the vice president of that immunity too somehow. Let me just ask you one quick question then, I want to get the phones open again real fast, before we're out of time, which party actually has done battle with the IRS as a party? I mean, is one party more an IRS party than the album? I mean they want immunity for themselves. Oh okay, I was just checking. Neither party has gone after that. That's the part that I complain about. Our tax whatever happened to saying, Okay,

everything that you make is income, take ten percent. Here's a card, send it in at the end of the year. Okay. But no, what we've got is such a convoluted tax system. When you stack the actual tax code up, it's what thirteen feet high or something, I forget what the height is. Now they've made it so convoluted that you almost can't get rid of the behemoth that the IRS is. That's the first agency we need

to get rid of. Well, I think that that maybe a second fair enough, okay, I mean, look, there's fifteen or sixteen or seventeen candidates for you know, redundancy in the intelligence agency field too. But yeah, the Republicans. The Republicans don't want to fight the tax system because that's how they're making their money. If they legitimately had to pay tax on everything that they're doing. Behind the scenes, they've changed the tax code to where

they didn't have to and exempt themselves a bunch of damn cooks. Look, I think in fairness, so Democrats benefit off of that just the same. It's just different paymasters, you know, Like I said, Oh they do, they do. My point is the Republicans are no better when it comes to the irs than the Democrats. They're all a bunch of Connivan lawyers that

have created such a tax system that Joe put Joe lunchbox. It's his money taken every week before he sees his share to fund this damn government, and then he's got to ask for it back at the end of the year. Or you have people out there that have no income, they're not paying anything into the system, and they're just giving money at the end of the year because they got kids, or because their log income, or because of this.

So it's basically rob from Peter to pay Paul and whoever is bitching the loudest that we need to be on our side come election Dome, Actually we'll start giving away the giveaways. To look at the Biden's scheme on student loans, it's to buy votes. Well, everything that they do, if it involves money, is to buy a damn vote. It doesn't matter which side

you're looking at, they're both the same. There you have it. So look with that, I think I'm going to open up a couple of lines here and let people get in because we only got a few minutes left. Okay, sure, all right, So let's see. I think I got I think I got Chris back up to start with Christmas in Florida. Right, sorry, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I'm in Florida. Yeah,

he's one in Florida. Okay, quick note Chris. A couple episodes back, we were talking about farms and getting produced straight to the public and customer bases and all this, and I haven't understand I mentioned it, but I wanted to before you get gone. I found a site that's called meat sweet dot com. It started in New York and some guys with the AGG Department here in North Carolina somehow knew this guy that came up with this website.

And what they do is it's a website for producers of meat, poultry, vegetables, direct farm products, a place where they can put their products and people can directly order from them. And it's only two states that are used in this system. Now, North Carolina and New York, and I thought down there your way, it might be something you guys want to look into as a method to be able to get your product or directly to the

consumers in your area. And basically you go to this site, type in your zip code and it'll bring up all the producers and you can pick a range I think within sixty miles or one hundred miles of everything. If it's basically like they say, if it's raised, caught, made, or grown, you're going to find people in your area that have the product. So it's something you might want to check into. Meat Sweet, just like hotel suite dot com. Okay, yeah, let's check it out. I appreciate

it. So gyeah, Chris, we only got a couple of minutes left. I want to try and get to Danny back into if I can. Well, you know, I really don't even know what else to add to the conversations. It seems like we all got caught on a giant echo chamber at the end. Yeah right, we're all the kind of you know the same mind. I hear you all. Okay, So now I brought it in. Yeah I got you. So now I've brought on another caller and here we go. Uh, you got anything you want to add? Yeah,

the big money in politics started in the semies. I think it was Bucky versus Ballet of the Supreme Court. I think Paul branch is the government should have code ethics and just simplified the cut of ATHLETs get the big money, the dark money out of politics will be all better off. It's funny. I thought they kind of did have a code of ethics though, didn't they. Isn't there like some universal thing here, there's an act right that

sort of covers it. You're not supposed to benefit from your office. I thought that was in place already. Am I wrong? It's not enforced. It's not enforced, right, So, but I mean, just just currently, just give you an example. I mean, go to the Jabawl moment race. He kind of ticked off a big donor and they made sure that he was gonna get back in office. Were you talking to gentlemen that pulled the fire extend the fire alarm? Yeah? Yeah, that didn't help that

they didn't know what a fire along was. Yeah, there you go that. Yeah, I'll set up no no problem. I'm not trying to shut anybody out at you go? Gotcha? All right? Well, listen, guys, I appreciate everybody calling in this week and speaking their minds, and look, at least we can ultimately agree one thing, that is that things are not going the way they should still, no matter who's in power, it seems like we could agree that things are not being done properly. And

money is a huge issue. The fact the corruption is a huge issue. Uh, indeed it is. And you know, where's their knots level of corruption is there? By the way, a single politician out there who's successful that name you know off the top of your head. Do you know any of the politicians that are not corrupt? I'm just asking that question. Opening Jordan Jim Jordan. Y Oh, that's funny. Okay, Well find the corruption? Well, you know, come on off too easy. I mean,

I'm just doing one a name and throw a name out there. Check him out, Okay, if you can find the corruption, sure, Okay. Look, I don't know what to say if you think that guy's an acceptable person with a whole bunch of things that have gone on. And I know there was investigations on him for various things, but it didn't stick. Yet give it time. Anyways, he'll he'll do fine over the next four years, though Trump will be reinstalled. That much, I can assure you.

But I can also assure you that we're out of time. So thanks everybody for calling in. Like I said, Bpe, this has been fun. I gotta tell you, have you had fun this week? I'd be, oh, hey, man, yeah, I've had fun on here, but no, it's been a rough week. It's been over one hundred degrees every damn day. So yeah, no, it is damn hot here in the southeast, for sure, and it's a little hotter here than it was up there even, but hot as it is. Hey, that's got nothing

to do with anything either. By the way, you know, Biden's doing so good with the economy. Don't you feel good, everybody. I mean, the heat's gonna come down too. Don't worry. Trump will save us. All any of those things make sense to you. I don't know what to tell you then. Anyway, we're all done for this week, and we'll come back next week and see if I can get more of you guys to participate in the conversation. Anyway, the O'Kell effects over, I am

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