The Ochelli Effect 6-16-2023 Roundtable

The o'chilli effect is sponsored by Wall Street, Window dot com and listeners like you Yeah Yeah, Chelly June sixteen, twenty twenty three, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, and this is the Friday night call in show where we're starting late if you're hearing us on the live stream, But if you are hearing us on the live stream, you can call us up. Please don't scream at us, because we are live and let's let's have

a civil conversation. You can join us as well three one nine five two seven five zero one six, or reach out to me Charles dot Ocelli on Skype and I will call you into the show if you reach out to me on Skype, but otherwise utilize the phone number three one nine five two seven five zero one six. Are we gonna have to talk about the indictment tonight? Probably, And I've got a few other things in mind, but and

was looking actually for sound effects today. I think I'm gonna you guys are not sending in too much short attentions van DJ theater stuff, so I'm gonna have to just start to rebuild my sound library for that because I missed doing my DJ shows, but also I had headaches. I had Internet troubles this week, car troubles this week. I know, Chuck, Is this a replay? No, this is not a replay. We're live on the sixteenth day of June, Friday night, So call in. Three one nine,

five, two seven, five zero one six. Michael Goes co Wow tripped over that my co host b Pete is with me. If I'm nice and intentional about this, my throat feels a little closed up. But my co host b Pete is with me. I'm gonna let him do some talking because I'm not in the mood to talk all that much, although I feel as though I'm gonna be compelled to do so anyway. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. What the hell is this with my rhyming stuff?

Pepete? What's going on here? Do you hear that? Or it's just me? I don't know. You're in one of those spells. I guess you're a poet and don't know it. I'm channeling Jesse Jackson over here. What is that? I don't know? Oh God help us. All right, we have one caller on the line already, But before we get to the callers and again join us there because we're gonna do this for the next two hours three one nine, five two seven five zero one six If

you're hearing this live, If not, it's a replay. You can't call in. But what's on your mind tonight, be Pete. Let's start off with you with no agenda in my head, let's just go ahead. I don't know. It's been kind of a if. We've been the busy at work. I'm getting slammed with it, getting warmer and getting more stuff done. We're in the middle of a drought, just a bunch of stuff breaking loose at once. But I'll try to keep up with the news this week.

And apparently we've got the latest in the uh indictment o rama with Trump. Um we had that break, We've had a lot break on the Budweiser

slash Pride slash alphabet soup front umwee. Well, you know with the whole deal about basically some people come out and told an House of Bush it's gotten so bad that finally they had to put out a press statement to their I guess um ticked off fans of bud light Really when they're trying amends and they can go ahead and write that they need to just go ahead and come up with a different light. Fear get rid of bud light. It's that bad.

Well, I don't know why. You know, they countered pretty well, I thought with a prepared you know, it's funny they had it all ready to go. Uh this new new ad campaign that they've saturated everything they could with lately, because I'm getting hit with it and I'm not usually the guy picks this up on the algorithms because I don't drink much, so they don't send me beer too often. But they have been sending out this uh you know, Barefoot Girls with country music playing, you know, good old,

good old, down home white trashy kind of hey come back. That was out shortly after the whole per buffle over Dylan Wilvany, So that one's been out a while. But they've started a new campaign where you know, they're showing shots of America and the horse in the field and you know, the pickup truck going down the road and you know, trying to capitalize on stuff. But if I'm not mistaken, I'm trying to find where I saw

the link. They they put out a statement where they actually, I think the CEO or somebody finally's kind of said, yeah, we screwed up. Oh I missed that because you know, I'm just noting that they're saturating the airwaves. They probably had multiple ad camp because an Iserbush usually runs multiple ad

campaigns just as the default. But I noticed they went for the country down home, the trucks, the horses, like I said, the barefoot girls getting together at some sort of I don't know, cookout, you know, generalized cookout. I mean, certainly the b roll of well, what has it been. It's like the GOP commercials anymore. Here's my gun, here's my truck, here's my beer. Here I am, I'm gonna go out and personally go after immigrants. Oh wait a minute, that was only in

Georgia. They had and uh, interesting state you live in North Carolina, by the way, But yeah, I almost thought I heard, uh what's his name? Of course, whenever these country guys talk to me about it, they go, yeah, you know, that's Hootie. They still they're still doing that to me. You know that's Hootie. With the guys say it sounds like his songs. What's his name? Rucker Darius Darius Rucker, is that it? Yeah, he was the lead singer for Hoodie and the

Blowfish. Yeah, everybody they keep calling him Hootie though that was never his name. But yeah, my mom, I was just gotten back from Switzerland and I was at my parents helping them get a bunch of stuff done, clearing a bunch of brush and woods land and stuff like that. And come up by the house and Mom comes to be bopping in from the store. She's got her stereo just blasting, and it's Darius Rucker and it's one of the country songs. And she gets out of cars and cut that music down,

you young uns and all year allowed. She gets out. I said, I didn't know you were a Hoodie fan. She goes, who, I said, Hootie. Hoodie said, who is Hoodie? I said, Darius Rucker, the guy you got played. She had never known that he had a life at Hoodie and the Blowfish before he ever put out a country's

ault. That's even funnier because a lot of these guys who were like, you know, want to convince me that country music is really great, because I like some country, but I'm more of the like I like, you know, put on Merle Haggard. You know what I'm saying, Put that on for me? Uh, don't you know? That is modern contemporary poppy put you know, I'm not into it. But these guys who, like you know, put it on all day and listen to that at work.

They Now, Hank william Senior is rolling around in his grave over the stuff that's going out over country radio today. It's a total it's totally. They've lost all contact with where they've come from, the horizon concerned. And I'm a big country fan, but that's always the complaint with country, isn't it

isn't that constantly the battle. I mean even in the UH. As soon as they started getting a little bit of popularity in the mainstream, it was sort of like, oh, no, country music is not supposed to be popular. It's supposed to be you know. And I remember that in like the seventies, right, Yeah, when Glenn Campbell came out with oh what was it? Was it Broadway Nights or whatever it was. Um, yeah, we went through that period back late seventies, early eighties, and then

it died off. It got back to traditional stuff and now you know, you've got hip hop and wrapping everything's thrown into it so that they can cross over to the pop market, you know. Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift started out technically as call a country as a not a country artist, but her music was predominantly played on country stations. It wasn't what one album. I think on her second she went mainstream pops. She hadn't looked back since.

Yeah, So they hope for the crossover hit that'll get him into another genre. And that's what we're seeing now. I mean, but it's just it's gonna happen, and it goes through waves, just like everything else. You know, whatever's hot pop market will work its way in the country and it'll cycle through and out and it changes well. And that happened with Shania I

remember Shania Twain was the big controversy at some point. Right. It was a huge deal because somehow she had implied that she had Native American heritage and she didn't, and that would have given her certain legitimacy in certain country circles just automatically had she been you know what we used to call an Indian, you know, and it was like, oh no, no, she's not. Oh look she pulled us. Oh she's a pop artist. I mean, it was like a full on revolt. Within was one of the quickest

um crossover artists her. Uh what was that song she did? Um something woman like a Woman a woman, Bam bam bam, and she immediately top forty you know. So the thing that she put out after that, I mean much like Taylor Swift, well, I guess she was the you know, the forebearer. Um she came out so much earlier. But yeah, her stuff would go straight to top forty radio. It might, it might, you know, it might debut on country stations, but boom, it's

Top forty the next day. And there's been a few artists like that. You know, Garth Brooks tried it with his Chris Gaines alter persona. And yeah, I mean, you know, people artists have been trying to a crossover hit can make her break you when it comes country music. Yeah, so you know they all suit for to put it in as many markets as they can. Well. See, that's why I loved having Blind Joe on because you know, generally speaking, you listen to him and it's pretty typically

country. I mean, it's classic country stuff that he's doing, and yet he does have the influences of various other genres. You know that he's into directly, right, So I don't know. You know, it's a thing. What are you gonna do? So I'm noting that. Um, I don't know. For some reason, it looks like my microphone is a bit odd sound wise. I'm trying to adjust that right now. But we do

have it looks like vance on the line. We want to go to him and get get through our general talk section here before we wind up getting down and dirty, and God help us all, we're gonna get stuck talking about the indictment Arama you called it, Yeah, you know, the indictment of the I guess would be better because you know, we got what three more down the line coming, So I don't want to see where it shuffles.

I do have to mention there was something that I saw on just today that apparently was on Fox News slide the other night they fired a senior producer because of the chiron caption that they put underneath Joe Biden. I guess this was the day that Trump surrendered, was at Tuesday, because once he went and was arraigned and they got done, he went back to Bedminster, New Jersey and had a rally. This is a picture of Biden talking in the White

House and Trump talking at his rally. And they've got the time eight fifty nine pm Eastern, you know, above it, and the chiron says one of the dictator speaks at the White House after having his political rival arrested. Nice. That is the greatest moment in TV right there for some producer to have some balls to put that on this greed, I think it's great. Well, yeah, did you know. You know what's more hilarious to me than that, though, is that, Um I watched live while that was

going on. They're following the motorcade again. I'm reminded of the U the OJ slow speed chase. Right, I'm watching that. It's crazy time and uh, you know, to me, hilarious because what was going on, Well, he goes to this restaurant, this Cuban restaurant in Florida, right, and um, yeah, he said, oh, food for everybody. Now I saw him say that live on air. Right. Okay, Well

he goes, hey, food for everybody, and then he left. So I was thinking that he stuck somebody with the bill, but apparently nobody made the food nobody moved, and then I read something about maybe and it's been since pulled that he I don't know, order cheeseburgers from somewhere or something. And meanwhile, he's at that Cuban restaurant in Florida and he just bailed after

like ten minutes. He's let people take selfies with him and stuff. I was watching him do it live though It's not like I'm going on reporting here, but it was hilarious to me because he's like, yeah, food for everybody. Yeah, everybody's cheering, and then he just bails. I thought it was hilarious. So you know, what are you gonna do? But all this is going on and people are watching it like it's a slow speed chase, except in the case of OJ. I mean, you know,

that was an actual murderer. So I don't know any out Let's get to Vanced and see what his thoughts are. Maybe he's got something else to talk about. I hope, so, because you have to say, was found yeah, and then guilty in the civil trial of wrongful death. But you know, what are you gonna do? Oh? Yeah. Just so we're clear, we're not take insides, we're not editorializing oh I am when you know, I am said everybody I am. I am pretty consum pretty certain.

You know what. I got a lot of friends that are like, oh, Jay, it was innocent, you know, and I'm like, yeah, no, I ain't doing that, um because you know the well don't you believe in the court system. You don't listen to my show? I guess no, beause you know, it cuts a lot of different ways here, you know, where it's like, well, don't you think Trump is being wrongfully pursued? Maybe, but I don't care. It doesn't mean that I comport with. I don't just automatically go, well, the court

found him this way, so that's the way it is. Automatically. No, I don't you obviously haven't listened to my show anyway? Work you think you know, they think they're they're just you know, they're just haarrastling them. There's really nothing legitimate there. And I said, well, not necessarily. A couple counts might be hard for him to wiggle his way out of. Yeah, And you know, just because they come after you with nineteen

counts doesn't mean that three of them aren't real. You know, I'm just saying, you know, your gang tackle would be seven, but when it comes down to it, you plead guilty to two, the other thirty five go out the window right exactly. But that's just how this game is played. Meanwhile, Vance, are you van stastic tonight? I'm van stastic check. Sorry about your starter troubles, but you know that's not a big fix

it for you. Hey, look, I was talking about the car before we went to air the cars again off the road and this time because I need to replace the starter, but I'm halfway there. I just can't afford to pay the guy to put it in right this minute. But but I do have a starter, so my god, I may ordered the starter I

was. I was gonna say, if you know, you know, normally I have you know, friends that are mechanics, and you know there's usually in a local garage mechanic you know that charge you thirty forty bucks, you know tops to do that, and maybe you know cheaper even but yeah, hopefully you can. And I know you had a back experience with the last guy that you did that, so yeah, you know, I wish I was there because I just called it in there and do it for you.

I just had to do it on my dad's bus the other day and in one hundred and ten degree weather and all that, so it ain't fun. But it ain't really that big a deal. I believe me, I would let you and and I'm not getting away with it that cheap here right now, I'll tell you. But it used to be in the old days. You know, you could turn around and get somebody a twelve pack and they'd be happy to do something like that for you. But uh no, not

now. And the last guy I tried to work out a little with it and we're talking about the cost of it now it's like in back in the seventies, and it's been back that far since I did it. But there used to be a place called bear manufacturing or remanufacturing, and you take your starter in there, give them your you know, broke when they give you a rebuilt when and it was like twenty five dollars. Oh yeah, I

cannot even imagine. I can't imagine. And how they can justify all this money for a starter, you know these days, but they're sure doing it. I guess that's called inflation. So yeah, no, definitely inflation. And right now, for the record, I mean when I initially just went to go, Okay, let's go to Advanced Auto Parts or a place like that. I shopped around a couple of different places, and what I got as well, you know, we might be able to get that for you

for about one hundred and fifty dollars the part maybe. And then it was like, you know, between one hundred and fifty one hundred and seventy five to just get the part. And I said, yeah, I got to shop around a little. I finally found a way to get it cheaper, and I did, and it's a new one. I got a Brandy news starter. It's funny what I got built with. I don't know if I

want to talk about it, but it's hilarious. The name of the company that actually build me for this thing has a funny name, but you know it's something that it's hilarious. I'm not gonna say it, but it sounds sexual, let's put it that way. So it was like, what does that mean I'm getting screwed here? I hope not. I got the part and it's brand new, and now I just need to find somebody to pay to help me put it in there because I don't have the stuff. Even

if I wanted to tempt it myself. Yeah, it stares to what Vance said. There's a couple of things that lead to that. You used to could go to certain shops. I worked for one one time. I moved over to Greenville and it started out of Cox Armature Works. They're not in business anymore, but they started out rebuilding armatures for generators, alternators and starters,

and to pay these guys to sit back there at those benches. They could tear one apart in a matter of five minutes, break the thing down, start rewire in that armature that's in there, and have it done. And it was the same way Vans described. You walk in, brought them your starter or your alternator, dropped it off, got one of theirs, remanufacturer, walked out the door. The problem is it's a lost art.

You know, there's not a lot of guys out there that know how to wire an armature because we've shipped it overseas and now they've got these ridiculous shipping costs tagged on it. You're gonna prefer a rebuilt You're gonna spend two hundred bucks, you know, on average, depending on what spiz car you have. So you've got two facts there, but it is definitely a lost art. These guys used to sit in that shop. There was six of them, but they would get and he said that the only reason they stayed in

business was for the emergency call. Someone like Norfolk Shipbuilding has got one of these huge generators or you know, something in their system to power their company will send this stuff in for an emergency repay. And that's where they made their big bucks. So you don't it's it's a lost start because we don't have that problem. And everything's been shipped overseas, so to get it back, we got to pay for it, you know, good old capitalism.

No, that's the way it works. Yeah, and it's it's like the the business model kind of changed too along with that, you know overseas thing and it's built in uh uh you know, uh. They don't want to you know, build things they're gonna last forever. They want you to buy a news so you know that that they yeah, yeah, yeah, obsolescence and so you know, once it's cheaper to just buy it, send out, you know, get it from overseas than you know, it's ten dollars

more or whatever to rebuild it here La La Lah. But then now that you know through the all the the bs that you know, the prices are just going up there. You know, a fifteen dollars toaster used to cost

to cost fifteen dollars at Walmart made in America. Then they started going to China and they were still fifteen dollars, but they were made in China, right, you know, So that you know, they they that that's been washed away by the inflation, and China is getting better and better at manufacturing and you know, can can actually compete, you know, and so that you know, here we go with you know, the the lack of the competition is what it is. And and well, yeah we need to you

know, the paradigm works like this man here. It is when you see a Walmart come to town, they come into town and they put everybody out of business because of their very reduced prices. Right, so they come into town like gangbusters. Everything is they're cheap, and you stop caring if it came from America or China or whatever, because it's just they're cheap. They get in there, they put everybody out of business. Now, once Walmart is the only story left in town, then the prices go up because now

they have no competition. So this is what happens with this parts and redoing it and everything. Yeah, you could get it done quick and easy, and it was a comparatively same price. But once they said, look, don't even bother with rebuilding it, get a new one. We'll send it to a dirt cheap Well, people went with the cheaper option and it put the other guys out of business period. So then now it's time to come

back around and I've got one hundred and seventy five dollars starter. I mean that that's just what happens is now that there's no competition for it, they can charge what they want plus the added prices of the shipping and blah blah blah. So this is just the way of the capitalist model in the way it flows is eventually, if you go for only the cheapest options, you will wind up with no options, which means there's no longer a cheaper option.

So I know that sounds confusing, but it's true. Okay, so we do have other callers. Yeah, well, I was gonna say, it's funny how these things change over time too. You know, we had that one time we were a manufacturing economy. It was American made. We were shipping stuff all over the world. We ended up selling our stuff and sending it overseas to get it done, and we became a service based economy. Now you're starting to see the old barter system come back, and and

COVID really helped with that. With the lockdowns and the business closings and the supply chain problems on getting certain products, bartering suddenly became very popular again, and businesses started trading out. Okay, I want this from you, give you this from me, or I know this guy that does this, you need his service, I'll take care of that. We'll trade out. Yeah,

and it started to get bigger and bigger and victor. So it's amazing how little things like that completely changed the whole economy base for a nation, you know, even as big as us. Yeah, but she wented when it comes to the bartering and the exchanges and all that, and everybody goes, oh, that's good, you're getting back to that. But no, it's only a temporary stop gap measure. So we do have another caller on the regular phone line, and I'm going to join somebody else via Skype.

So let's move the conversation Forward, Vance, did you have something you want to throw on the table though? I mean, we went with the starters there for a minute, but I want to give you a chance to do that before I go to the next caller, if you don't mind, and then let's let's move them along. Vance, Okay, I was still muted. Sorry. You know, basically the Trump indictments and you know, anything

that they're putting in the news. I mean, Jesus Tiens landed in a guy's backyard there the day, you know, right after they you know, have a best story about a whistleblower, you know, saying he saw stuff he was supposed to see, but he can't show you because you know it's it's puss damn, I miss you know, it's I missed the ten foot aliens. Man, It's what the hell? Somebody sent me the ten foot alien? Yes, Russell Brand even did a Russell Brand even got a story

out about it. And it's like, you know, there's I can't believe you missed this. But the uh, there's a light you know, shows this light falling out of the sky and supposedly there was an explosion, you know, associated with whatever the light was, you know, crashing, and

but I didn't hear an explosion in any video or anything. But anyway, then a little while later, these guys call in and say, there's ten foot aliens in our backyard and they supposedly came from this ship and and apparently they don't have phones with video cameras because they didn't take any pictures of the aliens in the backyard. And anyway, I'm just my point was we can

talk about that more later. But it's like this all this distraction, you know, to keep people you know, busy from you know, and you know, not aware of the big situation it's going on, which you know is a whole other story. We should have a whole show about that. But let's get the other color on the right. Business as usual, So let's go to I believe I got Harlan on the line on the phones, and I've also got somebody joined in by a skype. But Harlan, did

you see the ten foot aliens? How you doing and what's on your mind? Well, I'm just trying to live now. I'm not saying any ten foot aliens, but I have saying some shoote stories, you know, burnout kind of colts. They explode before where I say, quite a few of them across the Missouri, Kansas and Colorado. But I've not seen any ten foot aliens. I'm not saying any nukes though and yet. But I've saying

some weird stuff years ago, but I've not seen anything lately. True, true, Look, although we are contending with the possibility in news reports that nuclear weapons have been dispatched by Putin and possibly ready to roll in Ukraine if things don't break his way, according to some reporting, just what about an hour or two ago I was reading, But forget about the nukes, forget about the aliens, forget about it all because Trump indictment? Right? But

what else is on your What else on your mind? Harlan? Well, I won't jump in here on Orange US just for repentant Orange. Is it doesn't this last indictment has really got people, you know, far enough the way the Okay, have you noticed that? Or is it just by just not been paying attention? But it doesn't seem like people has worked up in such a fervor of the volume of the focus. Man, a friend you know of mine, we've been talking last few days, and I told them,

I said, I said, wonder what's next to us? Said, is it going to get down to where they're actually gonna beat Hazening or the Secret Service and the Federal Marshall's is gonna be out here like fight fist fighting each other? Said, no, you're not gonna take him, And you know at on these few tarts is gonna be screaming. Oh they set up for him. You know, they saved him. I mean, what snakes because it doesn't seem like everybody's really buying this what it was a few months

ago. Well, you know what it is. Uh. One thing you can say for Americans, man, is that you can you can run out of slack with him. Eventually they'll get bored if you run the same thing. I mean, you can only run a TV show so many times before they get bored. Right, yeah, so I maytime. Can you say, big player, flip over at top turn buckle and run down hypern before you go scratch and hey, yeah, same way. You know this And

people keep saying this is fake? Am I be home of something? Orange Jesus, I love it Orange. I I know you've probably said it before, but that is beautiful Orange Jesus. I love lan yeah, go ahead, the chosen one, the chosen one, thank you. Oh man, I love this that is that is he said, he was the shows and one you know, I'm pointed up to the sky that's on video. I mean you'll find it. Oh man. Orange Jesus pointed to this guy and said, I am the chosen one. Uh, somebody make me a cartoon.

Meanwhile, we got uh, we got mister Graves on the skype and he has joined us live. Also Graves. Any thoughts on Orange Jesus or anything else. How you doing, man, Orange Jesus, Orange Julius, Trumpty dumpty. I love Harlan. Harlan's fantastic. He is. And as for Trump, I've got a cool question. Oh if I can juff in here in action, Uh, go ahead and say what you're gonna say. But I heard earlier, I don't some show that you was working on something

big, that she was going to report on it. He was just getting everything together, and I really didn't remember. I think it was last night when I heard it. I was listening to the William Ramsey interview. And you've mentioned something that you was trying to put something together or to do a video on some subject, but I just I missed it or get cut out of my signal was bad. I was going to just check to see if what she was talking about. Yeah, you might be referred to this unibomber

thing. I found a bunch of stuff on the un Yeah. Yeah, And now with his timely or untimely passing, the special should probably happen sooner rather than later. So I might be working with my friend Angry Tiger on that or Peter ccush and just just trying to figure it all out. But there's a lot of material there, and most people don't even remember the unibomber, so be nice to educate some people. And there were other there were

other people that were suspected as being a UNI bomber at the time. People don't really know a lot of that stuff either. Well, the UNI bomber is a deep subject. But you know, for people that are starting to say, oh, look it's I don't think that's one of those you know, convenient deaths or occurred at a certain time, because I mean, the guy was eighty one, he sat in prison for a long time. They could have killed him a long time ago. Yeah, so you could be

You're probably right when it comes to us as old. But you always gonna say, but what's that I saw somewhere like the next day that he spoke skilled Tonga said yeah, they said that, Yeah, like with Epstein and then even people like Timothy mcveay, some people claimed they saw him breathing still. And you never know. But I think with this one, like Chuck was saying, I think Chuck was getting at is that sometimes. I mean, if they wanted to get rid of them, they would have a long

time ago. I feel like, well, your life skill might be shortened in prison a little bit, because you know, you're not living well in most prisons, despite what some people think. And the thing is, if this guy was living mostly in isolation, you know, he sits there for twenty years or so, and I don't know how healthy he was to begin with. But I mean, I'm just saying a guy to die at eighty one, it's not like, oh, what a shock, you know. Yeah, So there might be nothing really to that, but you know,

you never know. I don't know they're trying to and now they're trying to say that he wanted to be transgendered in the sixties, so they're kind of trying to tie that in with stuff going on today. So I don't know. Yeah, definitely, definitely. And I was sharing this clip earlier with friends because of certain arguments that I've had to have recently about certain subjects.

But I will just play this without comment. You guys will recognize that, I'm sure, but I have this feeling that has evoked through this one particular cartoon clip, and I'll just play the audio for you. Nope, sorry, Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose what? Of course he was? Now he wasn't you lose? Of course he was. He was the stunt. No be wrong, look it up. I don't have to look it up. It's a common knowledge. He was on the cover of No People magazine.

It was a huge movie. No, no, no, no. Wasn't that Fox News is mantra for a long time, like just be louder than everyone. That was a clip from Family Guy. Actually, uh, And it's it's great because it just reminds me what happens when you start talking about Orange, Jesus and certain other subjects, including Joe Biden by the way,

which is a fascinating one. Uh. You know, because earlier today I was just I was remarking at his live speech, um and uh, commenting to somebody, and he's sitting there and he's, you know, fumbling through it, and it's just it's so pathetic this point. And I'm going, man, listen to this guy. All I can all I can see is what's going on in his head right now. He's sitting there with Gabby Gifford's

Gabby Gifford, doesn't I said to myself. You know, all he's thinking is why don't you let Gabby Gifford come over here so sucking smell her hair? You know, she probably won't notice that much. I mean, she probably can't feel that part of her head. Come on, let me have it, you know. I mean, I'm just saying, this is what I'm seeing because he's fumbling through everything. They said, Joey, I'll tell you, Joey. Uh. I was showing stories about does she even go

around anymore? Yeah, he gets her. I don't know. He was mentioning her during the speech. I was just listening to it and channeling, but I thought was in his head and I'm going, but he mentioned her, and he's like, oh, yeah, Gabby Gifford's here. Yeah, you know, he's doing his whole and we should get gun control and a mumble mumble, and I'm going like ten years ago, twelve years ago, but he was. But I'm sitting there going, yeah, that's that's all

he's thinking is let me let me smell her hair. Anyway, Um, it is what it is. But I just had to play that good for you though. That was dark. I like that, very dark, very dark humor. Sometimes when I get frustrated with things for a few days and I've been in a headache stupor for most of the week. I mean I

graduated from the migraine to the cluster. Uh so between that cluster and the other cluster with the car and everything else, which, by the way, I'll be getting out the swag packages this week, but they were planned to go out on Wednesday, but I can't go anywhere. So both have health issues and car issues. Isn't it fun? It's loads upon you. You and I are somehow psychically connected, and that's not good. Man. I

apologize. I apologize in a freaking way. I so apologize for my for any sort of harm that's being done to you through your connection to me. I just really do, because I'm we're both just cursed individually and we found each other somehow. It's all my fault. But we did get some news on Lancer, by the way, so a little bit of positive news. I'm waiting on a room discount, so hopefully we'll be able to get that role, and it has been solidified. It's going to be at the Lorenzo

Motel. The hotel excuse me, in Dallas doesn't mean you got to stay there if you go. But also I'm being told that breakout rooms will be available to the Ochelli contingent, so we'll be able to have a subconference along with Lancer if we ever. Regardless, I'm getting myself there. If we all conspire to get together in Dallas, we're gonna have a lot of fun.

So hopefully you guys will join us and show up and we'll be able to pull our money together to afford a you know, a fifty dollars pizza, because I'm sure food is going to be super expensive everything else, so we'll do our best, right be Pete. I'm looking forward to that, by the way, how about you? Yeah, that's yeah. I'm gonna dig into it and see if we can go ahead and get some reservations nailed

down now that we've got some info. But yeah, I'm looking forward to it, definitely, Yeah, definitely so And also I got word from definitely Mike Swanson is gonna make it there for sure. So Mike will not be traveling with us, but he'll be there. He'll fly in. I got word from others they're gonna fly in. Somebody else sent me a message, not going to say who, that they had to use up their their miles or something. They had to use it up by a certain date, so

they were booking their flights. Looks like it's really coming together and it's not going to be just a bunch of people talking about going. But we're going. So if you're gonna meet us in Dallas, and that's another thing, vance how far are you from Dallas? Frin, it's like three four hours. I really, you know, if my truck would make it, if I wasn't worried about breaking down on the way, I'd just drive up there. But I've been We're just gonna have to see what my fan aces are,

you know, around that time. I might figure out a way to make it up there for the day or something. Well, I'm hoping you can. And you know, like I said, we could all chip in on a pizza or something. I mean, you know, get together and do it. Uh Me. I think it's gonna be a good time. And um, I'm definitely gonna travel with some of the leftover swag and such when I go. Um, and we're gonna have to schedule my radio appearances

around then and also figure out how to broadcast from there. So um, and I've got the portable broadcast design set up and the stuff I need to carry everything, But it's gonna be me and be Pete Hall and this stuff from uh well, he's gonna come to Georgia pick me up. We'll be on the road and it'll be me and be Pete with the boxes, the swag, the broadcast equipment and whatever it is that we need to have for suitcases for the weekend. So guaranteed, Me and be Pete will be there.

Hopefully you guys will join us, some of you. All right, So all that is, I've had it. I've had it in the back of my mind, you know, think about it. So I'll let you know if I can do that for sure, excellent, Well you know I want that and also another listener in Texas Creative Accident says he's gonna show up. Of course that's not his you know, god given name or his parents given name, but he'll show up and meet us. He's in Houston,

so he's gonna come over from Houston to Dallas. Logistically, I always forget what that's like, but I know it's a bit of a distance. So you know we're gonna We're gonna do this anyway. The swag is going out this coming week. As soon as we get the car on the road, I'll be getting to the post office and getting those things out. So that's

still going on. Remember none of that is for sale. Oh by the way, update on that BPT, but I'll tell you about it off the air because I don't want to keep taking enough time with this on the show tonight. But the swag is um it has been interrupted because of communication issues the stuff I was having made, but I may be able to restart it a bit. And uh, we we do have stuff still in stock that

has not been spoken for. So if you get your don nations in everybody, you'll you'll be getting some sort of swag from a fifty dollars or more donation, you get to choose a hat from whichever show you like. I've got plenty of age of transitions and getting mad hats sitting and waiting um o'celley hats. There's only a couple left at the moment, and Uncle hats are actually all spoken for at the moment, so you know I will get some more in though, and each one will be unique. Only a couple of

each will exist. At most four or five of them apiece will exist, but a lot of them are one and two of a kind, just just for the record one way or another. Minor differences. So you can pick your show and you'll get something with new artwork, new style, new colors, something one way or another, so it won't be anything like the old hats either anyway. All of that. Oh, and the decks of cards are all gone now, so unless I get more money to print more decks

of cards, there done. They're spoken for now. I say they're all gone, and I haven't been to the post office. It's because I packaged everything up and I now have a box with a whole bunch of these packages, and I'm going to take up a lot of time on the line at the post office when I go. So that's what I've got is a big

box of a bunch of little packages ready to roll. And what's wrapped up is wrapped up, including the fact that if you had made a donation last Friday into Saturday, I've included a little piece of silver at least in your packages, so that happened as well. Everybody's going to get a pen,

and everything else is randomly selected by me. Could be hoodies, could be mousepads, could be guitar picks coming up, bottle openers, a bag, an actual tote bag, although I think everybody's asking for the tote bags. I might have to print some more of those because I only got ten to begin with. But I'm printing everything in very short runs here, So that's it, and pretty soon I'm going to cut this off and not do it because I don't know how you know, how much longer I'm going to be

able to get this stuff and get it out. So let me know, guys, and get your donations in fifty dollars or more, contact me, let me know, make sure I got a mailing address for you, and you will definitely get some stuff in your o'chelly swag bag. Anyways, all that having been said, Chris, did I even give you a minute to say what you wanted to say? Or did I just derail your your comments? No? That was last week. Remember, Oh okay, you like closing? What would you like to say? Oh? Yeah, no,

you remember that movie that you were cut out of Twins? Yes, sir, well, I got that the villain into that movie lined up for one of these shows. Oh nice. Remember the villain where he's like Janny DeVito gets the suitcase and the later half of the movie that that villain and this guy comes and tries to find them and everything and then basically corners him at the him and Schwarzenegger at the end. You know what's funny. You thought I would have seen that movie a bunch of times. I only saw that

movie uh once in total? The total recall. Remember the guy that had like the weird alien baby thing coming out of his stomach? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the guy who's the guy? Yeah, Marshall Bell, He's uh, he's gonna be coming on nine next week at some point. So yeah, what was what was Schwarzenegger's character's name in that movie? Total recall? Oh, it's been a while, I can't remember up him.

Well whatever he calls himself in there, Quatto is the is the weird little thing that comes out of the dude's gut, right, Yeah, yeah, well yeah quarto. Yeah. Marshall Bell plays the actual guys. Well he doesn't played a little muppet guy. Well he did well, he did the voice or whatever too. He did the voice. Yeah, oh I didn't

know that. And then he had to sit and he had a stand up in a makeup chair for nine hours to get that applied to to get the weird, freaky little alien baby thing coming out of his gut, right exactly. And he was the he was the gay coach in Naboring Elm Street too that gets slashed from the shower by possessed Jesse, possessed by Freddy Krueger. So this guy's been a lot of stuff. He was in the Stand by Me, he was in a lot of big character actor he's about eighty years

old. It lives in Oklahoma now, so that should be an interesting if you're a movie buff. Should be interesting. And yeah, Twins, you were cut out of that. I don't mean to rub it in, but I just wanted to remind you you know of that movie. Yeah, hey, no problem. Look, I I hit the cutting room floor somewhere,

but and I don't know, you know, it might exist somewhere. But then again, I'm told that some of that stuff is more often destroyed than you think, so it might have been just totally destroyed, especially back in the eighties. Yeah, in the pre digital age. Yeah, right right, So let's see his sign has been. I'm looking to see the name of that of that character because I was trying to remember it was something. Uh, I think, yeah, gets your ask Mas, get your ask

two mars. Oh yeah, well there's always that. You know, Star Trek has done in a weird little homage uh to that where they they've had like just this woman in the background of a couple of bar scenes where she's got the three breasts. It's really funny. Uh. In the past couple of years, special effects guys too working on that crew too, guys, a little hidden joke or easter egg or whatever. Well, that's what I'm thinking is probably some of the same special effects guys or the same special effects

house said let's put the three boob check back in there. Oh, I know what it was. It was Quade Quade Dennis. Yeah, Douglas Douglas Quaide, that's the name. Okay, I was trying to Yeah, it took me a while. What what's that? You said it five minutes ago? Yeah, Douglas Clade. You know you remember that you cut out? You know what it is if I talk too loud, I cut you out. BPS, So I didn't hear you. You you said it, but I didn't hear you at all. I've been struggling this whole time trying to

find that name in my head. So you know that actor will be on next week at some point. Excellent. Actually, you know, the filing cabinets in my mind are not in good condition BPT. I'm just saying, all right, but they are there. But it is what it is. Wow, you know Faceshifter says in the chat room he just paid two hundred and fourteen dollars for a battery. Um yeah, yeah, I'm um not shocked by that at all. Phase holding my car hostage for three grand now,

oh three grand? Probably not gonna get it back. What do you got a transmission problem there? You know, axel, the wheel hub and all these other things that I of course, after they gave us the estimate, they found all these other things that they didn't know about it. So now, of course now they're gonna charge a fee for every single day that they're keeping, you know, in storage. So not to be a jerk, but you could probably take a bus down to Georgia and buy a car

here and spend less than three grand and have a working car. I'm just saying, I don't know what you're getting up there in Massachusetts for a used car, but I do know that well, yeah, it's look, it's not gonna be great, but you could have a functional vehicle for under three grand and also pay for your chomp. I'm saying, in Massachusetts you can't

get anything. Yeah, it's not even a used carcaus believe me, I will I will, I will get I will purchase for a couple hundred bucks an S box if you know what I mean, and register it just to be able to get to a job. But not around in Massachusetts because they think they're California when they're not. I don't understand You're not. You're not going to buy a five hundred dollars car anywhere in the Northeast anymore. And you know what, You're not buying it here either but with two or with

about two grand. I'm telling you now, if you put two grand or two or twenty two hundred dollars, if you came down here with about that, you could have a working vehicle that needs some work. Uh, and it would be working, and you could come down here and pay for your trip down here and buy it and take it home. But that that that would be the best I could offer you. And there's probably closer states than Georgia for you to go. But I'm just saying the estimate was eight hundred

dollars. Now it's over three grand. So they they screwed us. Well that yeah, because now you're looking at it going, well, clans Court, you need a lawyer. And uh, if we had the money you had, you know, we would have just got a different car and begin with. So well, yeah, it's like if I had the money to put three grand on a car, I might have gotten a car already. It's not a small clans Court. Yeah, and they know this and that that's why they have the over barrel. Yea. Yeah, well, yeay,

you you probably should have just wrapped it. But anyway, all that having been said and everything else I think it might be time for us to take a break, Bee Pete, what do you think? Sure, So let's do that for now. And maybe maybe maybe I'll have other Family Guy clips. Maybe I'll have other clips to play in general coming up later in the show. But we'll we'll get to some other discussions. We're gonna try and have some fun. We're not even through the first hour because we started

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five two seven five zero one six Charles dot Ocelli on Skype. I'm saying this in my sleep on occasion Bpe because even though I canceled some of the live shows this week due to a combination of headaches and an internet issue. Guess what here. We are live. We almost always get the Friday night show done. So let me turn it over to you for a little bit. B Pete. See where you want to go? What's on your mind? Or do you want to go back around the table? Did we get

to everybody? What's up? Bpete? Well we can, we can go back around the table. I mean we've got you know that. It's like Harlan said, we've got the news of Orange Jesus and all his legal woes. I just stumbled across an article that I found quite interesting, and it's, uh, could it be that Annhauser Bush tanked bud Light on purpose? It's a whole different things. But indictment wise, I don't know what is

it. Indictment for Loosa. Now, it's gonna be here very soon because Smith, who just unloaded on Trump on this latest thirty seven count, is also going after January six two, So I'm sure we're going to see some more fall out of that. We've got what's going on in Georgia. I'm sure we'll have something come out of that, indictment wise, and we've got what two others going on in New York or one in DC? In New

York, although I did find interesting that he did get one win. Some ag up in New York was looking through whether Trump inflated the price of his properties for or no devalued the price of his properties or the value of his properties to try to get a better tax rate, and all that. That one was silently dropped. A couple of days ago. They closed that investigation. Nothing came of it. So you know what did get one? You

know why? Because yawn, Okay, a prominent property owner devalues his stuff when it's time to pay taxes and overvalues it when it's time to get a loan or to charge somebody for it. I mean, come on, man, it's it's much like Look, Pete, it's much like being a Mets fan. Then let's get my candy back, Brian. Let's track down the punks of Stowe. Didn't make them pay. Look, Stewie, I don't think that I am peased. This is my first Halloween and and it's ruined.

Alright, alright, fine, we'll look for him. Good because so far Halloween's a bigger let down than being a Mets fan. Here's the first bitch and the seasons over. Yeah, it's like being a Mets fans. You know, you know the way it's going. It just come on sick burn and and and I and I'm a Mets fan. Okay, sorry, b Pete Goohead. Well, well, I'm going to say on the Trump side, this election coming up, I think people know where I stand.

I really don't care for anything that's going. All enough, I'll kind of had my fill of it. But I see that in in Biden, the Democrats are showing their desperation if that's the only candidate that they can put out there, and the Republicans in Trump, aren't you showing their hypocrisy. I mean it comes down to that. That's what this election is all about. Yeah, I'll see how it play. Other than that, I don't care

how many times they indict him. I'm tired of hearing it. So I just want to see something come along, get him off the front page. Well you know Trump is accused of criminal activity. Okay, so what is it Friday, Tuesday, Someday of the week whatever. Biden is stumbling and stammering, what is it Friday, Tuesday, Someday of the week. Does it matter? I mean, really, I'm getting bored with all this. I want to see Bobby Kennedy step into this race and shake things up,

for sure. I want to see somebody step in and shake everything up because I'm tired of the same business as usual, and yet they're going to ram this down our throats again. I mean, are you bored yet? Are you not entertained? I'm not, I'm not anymore. This is not even

entertaining. I'm sorry. Good. I want to someone. I want to see someone take half the energy that they're spending on trying to go after Trump, to affect this election, to go after Oh, this crap that we went through over COVID and we're still going I would love to see somebody haul his ass in the court. Um, I don't understand it. I mean, that guy's responsible for over six million deaths in the world, you know, and we hear about the Holocaust. We don't hear anybody talking about COVID.

And there were a lot of people affected, a lot of people lost their businesses, lost their homes, lost everything because of this crap. And I'm sorry, but that little, that little it just needs to be put in jail. But there's a whole lot of jail cells that are really anxiously awaiting some actual criminals. But do they ever get there. Don't forget the age, the whole age thing too. It's about gie. Those are more

deaths. God, what do you want to get into all that? Let's just throw the entire WHO, the WHO, the whole World Health Organization, all of them, and they're hang them off. I love you know, I love how they just North Korea take a prominent spot with the WHO. By the way, that's that's hilarious, especially because Trump goes, hey, congratulations, you're with the World Health Organization? Which direction do you want to go in for? How ridiculous all of this is? I mean, you

know, come on, I'm sorry. Good. It's like when you know, the UN put someone like Idi Amine in charge of the Human Rights Council. I mean, my god, let's tell you know how much ridiculous do you want to be? I'm not I used to talk about right now. We need to kick them all out of here, get rid of WHO, get rid of NATO, get rid of everybody the UN. Just tell them leave us the hell alone and go live in your little makeup, make believe world. It's crazy, hey, but but but hold on, that's isolationism,

can't I know that's the bob Oh my god. You know. Meanwhile, in other news, uh, it does seem as though Ukraine is making a serious move against Russia. And is it serious or not? It depends on what the Western media wants to show you. That is happening. It's still happening. I every time I comment on it, I get myself in a world a hurt. But hello, I heard is the fact that Russia just moved missiles to Belarus. Now, why aren't they trumping that everywhere?

I'm surprised that's not blaring, you know, scaring with the nukes, scaring with the nukes. I've seen it in one location the story. You know, why is it not blouder? Well, I caught it the Aliens. I caught it in a couple of places just before airtime today. That's why I mentioned it at the top of the show. B Pete. You might have not heard it in my you know, in my mushmouth way at the beginning, but I said that, you know, there is reports that they

moved nukes into position now and are prepared to use them. So you know that that came through in a couple of places. I mean, the usual suspects started with it. Now are they screaming it at the top of their lungs? I don't know, you know, by the time we're done on air tonight, they might be. We're going to have to stay tuned whether it's real or not. Another question though, huh, you know, is there yet? Yeah, let's let's let's it's like, how many years have

they been telling us nuclear destruction is imminent? You know? Iran is a year and a half away from a nuclear weapon and they have a knuked anybody the only people who've ever knuked anybody as us. Yeah, it's always it's always the marker to the Hiroshima. They said that these weapons are talking about these particular weapons are three times the strength of what we used in World War Two, So they always used that as the marker. How much bigger is

it compared to what was used in the past? And that's all true, But is this going to be the next thing? Are we going to have nuclear fear? Is that going to be the way that they say? Look, stick with the old man who was bumbling and fumbling his way through this, because at the very least he's not going to act quickly or rashly because he can't act quickly. Uh, you know, but it's just the way it is, Jane. We're at this point in the world and we can't

do any better than what we've got as president now. Um, it just amazes me how in the hell we have not gone down that I'm waiting for, you know, the squirrel to start at the bottom of the bowl. We've got to be circling. This is the best we can do. We deserve what we got, common duf. There's a harsh statement, Harlan. You got anything you want to tag onto that before I let Vans and Chris loose on that comment. Yeah, first thing, I want to act better

winning yet to win it? Are we tired of winning? Are we tired of winning? Yet? All I can say to that is this, there you go. That's that's it. That's my answer. But I absolutely agree. I mean, you know, this day in time, and like I've been, you know, telling people a lot last four or five years, when does the utopia show up? When does the red state utopia? Actually? Again? You know, Uh, it's just like all this economic stuff is just a joke. That's you know, we hear that basically that under

Trump. We had the best economy in world history. It was the damn good. They had to print about twelve three and about six months to keep the gimmick going, you know what I mean. So I'm ready for it to go down. I'm sicky, you know, just giving all the extra hell that they could collapse everything. We said, it's a house and go bro. Well, you know, you know when I used to work at

strip clubs. I'll tell you what we did on Wednesday and Monday nights when things were slow, is we would hand out some funny money and people would show up to do that, and then they'd spend their real money afterwards. What we did is we handed out the fake money, right, the little the little fake money, so that we could get things roll and business looks like it's booming, and then business would boom. That's how it was. I mean, I was only the bouncer, so I wasn't in charge of

business when I used to watch it all the time. Give them the fake money, give them the funny money. Bring in the guy who's got a lot of cash, right, bringing a star. People want to hang out in the strip club with the star cool. And you know what we do, We give him about a thousand dollars worth of BS money that he sticks in the strippers g strings, and then people will come in and spend their real money because they think it's happening. That's what they did on Mondays and

Wednesdays at strip clubs. You know, why do they give out free drinks the ladies on Wednesday nights? Because otherwise nobody would come in to buy drinks. See, you know, And and this is what they did to us, the strip club model. Let's let's print up a whole bunch of money and act like there's still an economy going on. Uh, good point there, Harlan. Anyway, Chris, you got anything you want to add to that? I just blame the aliens, fair enough. Vance, Do you

blame the aliens or do you think it's the titty bar paradigm? What's up? Let me ask, Chris, did you hear about the ten foot aliens in the backyard? Yeah, they're they're gonna be at your local strip clubs on Wednesdays. They're replacing the female. I hope they got six I don't they got six breasts? Yeah? Nan nan, who is the word? See? Vance is going for the six breasted alien. I don't know if I can even handle the three for God's sake, But okay, fair enough.

What what do you say about that? Pepete? You want the six breasted aliens at the stripper joint or what I mean? I know during COVID they were doing uh what was it, um? Uh hand sanitizer dances? Right, they would grease up with hand sanitizer and then you can watch them through a booth or something. Right, I mean, how about six breasted aliens? What do you think? I think that we need to overhaul the tax laws and find a way that I can somehow get a deduction for strippers

and bartenders because it's delitions going up. And I bet I've put I don't know, maybe eight or nine through college. I just getting tough. Well, it's already worth in man that goes out there and stimulates the economy by getting you know, two hundred dollars worth of singles and sticking them wherever they'll

stick. It's just getting harder and harder. And I think it's time that somebody in Washington started looking at the you know, the plight that the childless elderly have to go through, and what has cost us you know, when I get ready for souls, I can't quit work. Social Security will not keep these kids I'm supporting in school, So we need to do something about

this. You will look, you know you want a real stimulus. I'll tell you what all you gotta do is tell Blue Cross and Blue Shield if you want to stay in business, you got to start qualifying lap dances as therapeutic. And then it's over, baby, because they will over build that thing and we will have an entirely new economy emerge. What's that medicare? They would it would crash the whole system. Just do the overbuilding. Yeah, keep up with the paper. You think medicare is broke, now try

it. What that deductible would be? I don't know, but I guarantee a happier there you go. So, now that we have solved economic problem, yea, if you provide them of somebody's support, you should be able to take them off your taxes. But you know, it's kind of hard to get a soul security number. You know, during a lapdan, we should be able to get something to the business, like a ten ninety nine, call it a ten sixty nine. I don't care, but give us

a piece of paper. Desist. You know this guy's as much as hart tab and this much in private dances, and hell, I could make some money. I could be like Warren Buffett. You know there you go able to click. Terry pays more in taxes than me. Fair enough. Jimmy James, do you think Blue Cross, Jimmy James, do you think Blue Cross Blue Shields should start covering lap dances is therapeutic? Or the trick is kidding Jimmy James. Jimmy James, hear me, Yeah, I was asking

you. Do you think that Blue Cross and Blue Shield should start covering lap dances is therapeutic? True? What that? And some you know, emotional support dogs and you're all set. You can have a Niel and a strip club in the same joint. I'm telling you, the ideas are flowing, Jimmy James. We're fixing the economy. What do you say, It's going magnificently nice. I'm very impressed. Okay, cool, What do you got on your mind tonight? Man, Go go for it and throw it on

the table and let's let's just rip this whole thing around again. Well let's see heard it already. Uh. Daniel Ellsberg is guy at age ninety two. Yes, yes, I did get an email about that earlier today and did not bring it up just yet. I was gonna bring it up around the end of the show, but you beat me to it. So yes,

indeed, Daniel Ellsberg died. Um any views that you want to drop on that or you got something else in your mind, Jimmy Jane, Oh well, that's the shame that he's been so silent for so many years. I didn't notice him coming out in defense of any of these others so called. True enough, and indeed, I'm gonna now drop in the ocellia dot com chat room the article from let's see where's this website? Actually it's from the aa ARC library dot org. Daniel Elsberg, who leaked the Pentegron papers,

is dead at ninety two. Deeply disturbed by the accounting of America's deceit in Vietnam, he approached The New York Times. The disclosures that followed rock the nation. According to the article here by Robert D. McFadden, published June sixteen, twenty twenty three, and um, there you go. Daniel Elsberg, a military analysts who experienced a sobering anti war epiphany on a bathroom floor, and in nineteen seventy one disclosed the secret history of American lies in

deceit in Vietnam that came to be known as the Pentagon Papers. Died on Friday at his home in Kensington, California. He was ninety two. The cause was pancreatic cancer, his wife and children said in a statement. So there you go. And there's a whole other bit to this article. You can read. I've dropped it in the live chat room at Ocelli dot com. But yeah, Jimmy James, I was going to bring that up toward the end of the show. But there it is. Anything else you want

to add there? Wells were on him. I'll bring up another Hello apt have you ever heard of a Linden Baines chats made by the name of Ross Style or Check? Of course? Yes? And what did they do on the last day in their white Uh? You got me there, go ahead, Jimmy James, tell him about it. Well, he pulled up in

a little U haul. He took a concept papers on to be it now more and all the proof and all the papers about him bugging nickok campaign literally and so later he Finally during the seven he's turned over the stuff to the archives under the condition that it belonged closed for fifty years. I'm curious, so is this crap out yet or what do people even know about this? Well, you know, he died in what two thousand and three? Rostowe?

Right, it's been a good twenty years. But the way it has rolled up as it was supposed to be released, he said, I thought fifty years after chance this death. There you saying it was Rostow's death. No, no, no, no no. I was just saying that Rostow died in two thousand and three, so we would not have heard from him after that. Regarding this, however, papers like this are often not shown

to the public for a half century to seventy five years, depending. I think congressional rules make it so that you can't show stuff that the Congress was involved in for what seventy five years, right, Congressional papers and such, And I think the executive branch that's usually the rules are fifty years at a minimum, unless there are special you know, demands for said paperwork, etc. Which you would have thought would have been there long before this guy's death

in two thousand and three or Johnson's death in the early seventies. Um, you would have thought a demand for the release of that stuff would have been out there and the National Archives would not still be withholding it. Right, My understanding is the Jobson Library has it, but still under the National Archives where it gets Papa. So you guys are talking about Trump and these stupid papers, these presidential papers have been looked on to all the precedents and stuff,

it's all there. There is no Trump, there is no case against Trump. That's silly whatever, But I will that the documents situations of a mass. But the end of day, the president's papers are the president's papers. Yeah. But even when they're in all the even when they're held by a presidential library, like in the case of the Johnson Library, it's still supposedly or allegedly under the control of the you know, National Archives system.

Right, So you have this, Yeah, not necessarily, but that's what I was getting at. Yeah, Trump, it's usually been negotiations, which it's stupid night two seventy eight law putouts should happen looking five years, well, that's shy of that. Well either way, well, either way, this stuff, you know, again, clarity is difficult to come by regarding

this. But again, even these presidential libraries are still supposedly under the control of the National Archives and their system and their policies, etc. And yet we have all sorts of conflicts, and nobody is treated equally because everybody has a different in situation when it comes to these presidents, whether they're alive or dead. We've had difficulties getting things out of the Bush Library, of course,

the Johnson Library is fun. There's a bunch of things missing from the Johnson Library, by the way, that nobody seems to be able to account for. And the only reason why we're discovering that is because of the JFK records collection. Otherwise I guarantee you there's tons of things missing, withheld, mislabeled, just sort of disappeared into the grand system one way or another.

Whether they're significant or not is irrelevant. It's a big giant mess, and nobody has a very clear concise this is the way things are supposed to go. So I find it interesting that this is going on regarding any of the ex president's, x vice presidents, etc. So, you know, it's just interesting. But at the same time, I don't know what to make of an acceptance. To me, all a big joke because at the end of the day, nobody's gonna get punished by anything if they did do something

wrong in prison. I mean, this is a big joke to him. Think I think it's a big joke. You're going to jail. No, he's not listening. I don't think lawyers. Well, look, look here's speak. You can speak. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Let me ask, let me, let me just say this. You want everybody to answer that question whether we think that there's any real risk of Trump going to prison? Do you want that question answered or not? Okay? So so great? What what? All right? Great, let's pass

that question around, be Pete, what do you say? Who do you want to start with? We'll pass that question around. Is that is Trump in any real jeopardy here regarding this situation? Because I think that's a fair question. What do you say, VP? Who should I start with? I mean, all of all these you know, women coming out of the holes, all these rope das, all of it. Do you think he's

really gonna go to jail? Okay? So you want an overall blanket answer as to whether he's gonna be actually held accountable if indeed he did something. Let's just assume for the sake of this question. No, if that you don't accountable, it's exactly what it looks like the prince that's put us rifle and jail for prison. Well, you're answering the question now and not asking a question. Okay, So what is the question you want to ask.

Let's let's get that straight. What is the question you want to ask? Do you really think that's Donald Trump? Do you not really recognize that they're really trying to put this man in prison for the rest of his life? Do you not really believe that? Okay, so that's the question you want answered? Is that right? That's right? I want to see who's just how far cuckoo everyone is? Okay, cool, let everybody answer it, and that's what we'll do. Be Pete, Who should we start with?

Do you really think that this is a I guess Jimmy James wants to know. Do you really think that this is directly the president, the current president, trying to put his political rival in prison for real? Would that be a fair way to phrase the question? Jimmy James, Uh not really you do not really think that all of these people are trying to put the man in prison for the rest of his life? Okay? So bluntly, is there a realistic are all these different people, the Justice I guess the Justice

Department, Biden? Everybody? Is everybody trying to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life? For real? Is that the question? Yeah? Do you or do you not believe these people want Trump in prison for the rest of his life? Okay, but that's the question you want answer, right, Yes, So let's get to it. Okay, I'm trying to. I just want to make sure we got the question clear. So okay, So there you go, be Pete, and we now have the question who do we start with? Well, I'd say we're going to start

with advance. But before we do that, I've got a clarification on for Jimmy. Apparently, when Rosto I found an article from last year. When Rosto sealed his documents and gave him to the Johnson Library, the instructions were that it was not to be opened earlier than fifty years from this date June twenty six, nineteen seventy three, so conceivably June twenty six this year open them. Well, that's that's his instructions. That's his instructions. Okay,

yeah, and I'll put the I'll put a link to this article. It's a cash version, so if it doesn't come up with some paywall, don't blame me. But this is the article. It's on the intercept. I thought it was a pretty good explanation as to what went on there. You go. Okay, So there for clarification. Now, who shall we do? You want to start with Vance on this? Uh? Do you think that a whole bunch of people, all these people are trying to put Trump

in prison for the rest of his life? I believe that's the question, Jimmy James asked, right, yes, okay, it's Vance. What is your view? And everybody? Let everybody answer? Please go ahead? Vance? All right, Well, you know, basically that's kind of a loaded questions. But I'll just you know, break it down. I'll tell you

what I believe you know, and I believe you know. We could say, yes that the people that he's talking about really want him to go to jail, Okay, but then the bigger question is will he go to jail. No, he's not going to go to jail. You know, my, my, you know, Trump is a character of a character, and he is. This is the wwe political system that we have here, and he is he is. His role right now is to be the victim.

And then he can claim, you know, just like all this stuff about the elections, every election we've had since I've been alive has been influenced one way or another, and and and so you know, uh so I don't really know how to answer the question, but what I believe is that, you know, it's all a distraction. Trump is definitely not innocent as far as his character goes. And you know, so I really don't care.

You know, It's like I hope he gets convicted of something because he has a long history of being you know, you know, Chuck, you know, this is in the eighties, he was a joke. He was a joke. He was he was you know, people you know made fun of him. He went bankrupt with casinos, etcetera, etcetera. You know, so you know, that's all I can say, is like, you know that it doesn't matter if he wins or Biden wins, or if if if

JF RFK wins. The system hadn't changed Okay, so this is exactly what they want us to be focused on and worried about and people fighting over, instead of looking at the system that is screwing you and has inflated your money

to to where nobody can afford to live anymore. Everybody's got to you know, it's just insane, you know, anybody that believes anything that's going on in this current political dynamic is just and based on any type of individual freedoms and rights and and anything to the capitalism, even it ain't happen, has happening, like now, come to the next. Okay, come on, d thank you, Jimmy. Okay, fair enough. Vance kind of did

go around in a circle there, So I get it. It's you don't know how to answer the question, because how serious do you take this to begin with? Is where I'm coming down from what Vance said. Um but okay, now, who's next, be Pete Harlan? Go ahead? Well, I pretty much agree with pretty much what Vance said really about. I don't think I'm really adding to it is now. I do not think he's ever gonna be in Vancous. Go far as now, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Hang on, WHOA, Jimmy, hold on? WHOA?

Harlan, Hold on? Everybody, Hold on, everybody, hold on, because I put Jimmy on hold. Harland, hang on a second. I want everybody to be able to answer, Jimmy, so let them answer and finish before you come in. Okay, So let's leave everybody on hold who's not talking, and Chris, I'm gonna have to trust you because I don't want to have to mute you on Skype. But I'm sure I can.

Everybody stay on hold. Let them answer the question, please, because I didn't get Harland's whole answer at all, except he kind of agrees with advance that he was elaborating, and then so let's let him answer. Harlan go ahead, okay, Hey, matter of fact is to go back to his question. Hey, it looked like to me that he refined it two or three times, but overall that might be my fault. That might be my fault, Harland. Sorry, go ahead. There's no danger of him

ever gone to Jack. There's no There's more danger anybody that's you know, on the line that I ever hear this, whether if it's you know, today, or if it's thirty years any of us can have something drummed up on us, dick something up and put us in jail, no matter what any of these people that upile on the political system is. I'm sorry, that's my opinion, and I don't think it too many people is going to disagreep it. Far as to the meat and potatoes of the question, well,

I think these people are trying to put him in jail. Well outside of the everyday liberal, never trumper, trump haiter, whatever you want to call them, I do agree with Jimmy is totally silly because I always done sitting here sucking the hour of the conversations that need to be had, especially on his performance and his record and his flip flops. Thought he was president now. The only thing else that I've really got to say about it without

taking another ten minutes is in a nutshell. I think that you know, as far as the upper end of the Democrats factrum, you know, they're just pushing him because they want him to be the nominee, because they think he'll be the easiest one debats. If you look back, yes, Elon must took a pole to let him back on Facebook, didn't and he's been back on there CNN give him, you know, a couple hours free television time. All of a sudden Trump is not the devil and the evil to

democracy? Is they push that for over two years, you know, starting a couple of months, I think it's they definitely want him to be the nominee on the left because they know he'll be the easiest debates. As far as him going to jail, you know, I just think that's just got a joke to say the least. And I don't know if Jimmy heard what

you know, I was saying earlier. It doesn't look like as many people as buying this because not as many as a volume of people that I'm saying on social media is not whipped up into a fervor of the way they was over the New York charge, right, And like men A friend line has been talking about the last couple of days, what's next? Are they going

to actually show him being tased? Are they going to show the Secret Service in the US Marshall's fist fighting because they're actually wanting to put him in handcuffs? You know, I mean, what next? It's a long time to the first primaries, but you know, no, he has no danger of actually going to jail. He may hit my cofftence money here and Irban, how much is he grifted off people since the atal action? How much more money is he gonna raise before you know the next And that's you know pretty

much my answer. All right, well, I'm gonna put you on hold with that. I mean, look, he is making a million dollars a day off of fundraising. It looks like from what we can see reported regarding this, and he's definitely pushing I'm on the mailing list. I see him. So I'm on the fundraiser mailing list. Okay, I see what's being raised, and I see what's being reported publicly about what's being disclosed. It looks like about a million dollars a day is what he's getting off of this.

But anyway, so Harlan's answer is that, and I gotta go with the idea that the never Trump or Democrat is certainly sitting there licking their chops, going, oh, he's going to prison. He's going to prison. But how many of those really are there? Not as many as the media

wants to make you think. And certainly CNN has been a lot more friendly to the GOP side of the equation lately, even giving them a constant string of town halls, Mike Pence, Chris Christie, everybody has gotten a town hall, right, Even Trump got a town hall at a CNN recently. So you know, again, I still haven't given my answer. But b Pete, I guess that leaves us with Chris, doesn't it. Yep, sure it does. They'll never put they'll never set that precedent. He's playing

a part. He's playing a role. And just like how Hillary, he didn't he didn't put Hillary in prison. He's not being put in prison because they all the people that run the show, they run both sides. And I'm so sick of talking about Donald Trump and Joe Biden. And that's about it, Chuck. So there you have it now, my full answer, and then I'm gonna pop the phone back up and let Jimmy back on because

I think he's gonna want to respond when I'm done. Although wait a minute, b p do you have a view on this as to whether there is a realistic desire for all these people, as Jimmy said, to try and lock Trump up. I guess we should go with you, and then I'll cap it and turn Jimmy James back on. Yeah, I'll try to answer every aspect of question, because it seems like a you know, the COVID virus has got a little points, a bunch of points sticking out on at

one. I think, yes, there are a lot of people out there that would love to see Trump go to jail. Two, the system is corrupt, and I have no faith in the system. I think that the system is so corrupt that there is a possibility that, yes, he could be sentenced to jail. Now the question is there he's going to have to show up or whether it be let out on appeal and then the decision dropped

later on. But there is a chance. I think the system is so screwed up that, yes, there is a chance that even Trump could spend a day in jail over this, because there's some things that he did in this latest case that the system has to go after him. Four And it's a convoluted explanation, and I don't know if people are going to agree with me or not, but there's a few things in those third seven bounced that yes he did, and he discussed them on tape, and that's the problem.

He shot himself in the foot on this one because his ego is so big he didn't think he'd have to suffer any repercussions for it, and he very well might. That's how corrupt this Department of Justice is under this president. The FBI needs to be completely gutted as far as I'm concerned. They're one of the most corrupt organizations that the government is funding right now. The FBI and any other intelligence related alphabet you want to put together. Yeah,

they all need to be gone through and we need to clean house. That ain't going to happen. There's too many people embedded in it that are untouched. Yes, there are people that are untouchable in this world, and we have to deal with them on a daily basis. And that's the problem. But do I think do I honestly think he'll go to jail. No, but I'm playing that there is a chance he might spend a day there. It's that screwed up. I'll leave it at that. Okay, fair enough.

So there's all the answers, with the exception of mine. Like I said, I'll cap it and then let Jimmy James back on to respond to everybody. But here's the thing I'm figuring as follows, We're going to get close to a selection time and the bs of the election is going to happen, and when we get close enough to it, all this is going to have to be put on hold. It's been out there, it's been dangled as a way to increase excitement. You got to introduce some jeopardy into your

narrative structure in order to have tension for dramatic effect. So that is what is going on. Is there a possibility that this guy ultimately will go to prison whether he did something wrong or not. Well, if he was an average citizen, I would say, look, flip a coin, because you don't know. However, he's not, so I'm thinking that has one of the privileged people. No, not a day in prison. It would be a serious shocker to my system and my understanding of the way the system is.

If he does go to jail for any of this, Now, could he conceivably plead guilty to something blah blah? Not before selection time, because I think they'll still dangle him as a choice. He has to be dangled as a choice. What else do they have on the GOP side, either no personality to santists or all personality, But nobody's gonna vote for the fat bastard from Jersey. Okay, it's just not happening, you know, Nicki Haley. Uh No, just no, even though I would say she's one

of the more rational people on the GOP side. But even so, it is it is ridiculous that this whole thing is ridiculous. And here's the funny part. The majority of what it is they're trying to charge him with is so convo, looted and stupid. On the face of it. As much as I would not mind seeing him go to prison personally, this is not

the way to get there. None of this is relevant to what I think he's actually done wrong because people that actually do the wrong thing, that rise to power don't pay for it. Like I said, he's gonna go to prison right next to the other presidents that went to prison afterwards, which is none. So that's the way I see it. I think it's a big sham. I think it's a big game. I think it's all about playing this out, seeing what the public is gonna buy, what they're not gonna

buy. I think that there is a contingent out there of yes, indeed, the absolutely Trump deranged democrat. There is a strain of that out there. It's not huge, it's not running the government in my mind, but it is running part of the media. Cannot all of it, but part of it. Just like there's a contingent out there that, regardless of whether they have evidence or not, is going to make up all sorts of cases and add on too and exaggerate cases going after the other side of the equation.

Are there legitimate questions? Is their criminality on both sides of this issue? Absolutely? Will anybody actually pay for it? Well, usually the big cheese is not the one taken out of the fridge and left or rot. So I think he'll be fine. I think it's good for him to raise money on He's doing that quite well. Whether he shows up at the Cuban restaurant and ask for burgers or not, it's irrelevant because at the end of the day, it's a big show. I don't think we're going to see

him tasted like Harlan's describing. I don't think they're going to go that far. I mean, anybody's got to know. I mean, Biden's an old man. Trump's an old man. You can't be tasted an old man. Come on, I mean, even if you hate poor Joe, you don't want to taste them. I mean, that's just ridiculous torture on somebody who is, you know, not mentally capable. I mean, you know I don't agree with torturing the mentally challenged. Come on, do you? Maybe

you do? Maybe you hate Biden enough, but yeah, I'd taste that bastard in a minute. All right, I can't. I can't. I wouldn't even taste Trump because you know, come on, the guy, the guy can't stand it. I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to kill the man. You know, I'm not out to kill the guy. He's just he's just a jackass, real estate hustler from Queens. He's not that evil. He's not evil enough to be evil. You know that. I don't want to taste Trump. I want to taste Biden.

Oh. I know he's triggered a couple of times. No, I got you. You want to taste Bide. But I wouldn't taste either one of them because they're old. Man. Somebody just needs to put grandpa's back into homes and let him yell at each other there and leave us out of it anyway. That's what I think. Trump is not gonna pay for anything. Whether he did something wrong or not, is irrela. We're not being shown it anyway. The Justice Department is indeed corrupt, the FPI is indeed corrupt.

And it's not just all corrupt on the left wingside or Barber Burr. It's just they do what they want. They apply the laws, they see the law wanting it to be. It doesn't matter. They do whatever the hell they want. So there you go. Is Trump literally gonna go to jail? Let me go back to Jimmy's actual question or all these people literally want him to go to jail. I think he is way less useful if

he actually goes to jail. I really do so. I'm thinking to myself that the people that actually control things, they don't want this guy in prison in jeopardy making a spectacle of himself. Yes. Absolutely, that's how the ratings game gets one. That's how the media game gets one. That's how

the American political game gets one. Is all the jeopardy, all of the circumstance, all of that is absolutely useful and so long as it is no reason to put him in prison, no reason to put him in the ground, No reason to get rid of Brandon, no reason to get rid of the hair sniffing uh commander in chef. No reason to even figure where is

Kamala by the way, she can't run. Uh. No no reason to bother with any of it, or to ask Mike Pence again if he's willing to, uh, you know, give a pardon, which is another thing, even if he's not useful in the run for twenty twenty four, even if he somehow got disqualified sideline directly, literally, figuratively, legally. Um, you know, somebody will come in there and pardon them. Somebody will let him go anyway, and it's just the way it'll be. That's the

way I see it. So with that, I'm gonna let Jimmy James back on and god knows what's going to happen, But we've only got about like seven minutes left, and I'm gonna let this run anyhow. Maybe I'll let everybody get shout out beyond that seven minutes, but we're gonna give it back to Jimmy James and see what he's got to say. And let's see here. Now I've got two lines up so let's hope that this is the right one. Jimmy, is that you Yes, Okay, I had two caller

I used with your name on it. We'll go ahead. Yeah, you've got the right one. Alright. Alright, So to get some revelations to some conversation, I need to go back ten minutes, one in Harlan and you one eighth ship. I wanted to ask Harlan why he didn't think Hugh Trump would go to jail because A he wasn't guilty, or b because the man won't flood him. Okay, well, I'll bring Harlan on in a minute. I'll bring Harlan on in a minute, but I want you to

get through without without argument. First, you one, now, I want you to make your statement and observations first, and then we'll go back to Harlan if you got anything. I mean, is that all you want to address is only what Harlan said, because you know, I want to give you a chance to speak without anybody interrupting you. I don't mind being interrupted, Chuck. That's how conversations work. Yeah, I know, but otherwise it's just a guy talk to him, right, But it becomes too messy

on the radio when people are talking over each other. That's why I'm directing it this way. So please, by all means, say what you got to say, and then I'll bring Harlan on. Well, you guys are loopy. You seem to think that there's some sort who exactly are these people that are running the world? Chuck and Dance and Harlan and Chris. Can't forget Chris. He says, it's it's just all fun and games. So who is running this ship? I don't know, Jimmy, I don't.

I don't go out and talk about it as if I do so. But you think that Trump is the great Savior. I don't know why. He has not done anything to a lot better prep than Biden. I don't know. I'm not a lefty either, so I don't like any he is a better president than Biden? Who is sorry? Who has planned? Oh your fus plant would be a better prep. Well, he's got more brain cells. It's okay anyway, I know. Go ahead, Jimmy, anything else you want to add to that, or you want me to get Harlan?

Now, well, of course you're some of you are quasi right. Yes, this is all distractions because there was a hell of a lot of real evidence coming out about real crime from the Biden Crime Syndicate CCP. Okay, thank you, Okay, fair enough. So now we'll bring Harlan on and you can address the question to Harlan, and then we'll get everybody's final thoughts for the week. I guess, and go around the table. Let's see Harland. Harlan. Uh, there you are, Harland. Okay, go

ahead, Jimmy, ask your question directly. Harland is back on live on the line. Oh yeah, when he said that, you have no doubt that Trump will not go to jail with that because he never really committed any crimes? Or is it because the man who runs the universe doesn't want him and jail? And if so, who is the man? Thank you? Okay, Harlan? Good, Yes, sir, yes sir. But I can say needed so that way when I go to talk and I ain't gonna get getting molested again, or I may not, that's gonna work. I

have the floor. Yeah you got, I'll tell you what you got the floor mute, Jimmy James, so that you're totally unmolested by anybody. Go ahead. Well, first of all, I don't know who the man is. As far as that goes, all I'm saying is is no, I don't seem going to jail under no circumstances. I mean actually to go to jail like the average person would. Now, I just don't see it. As far as about you know this old excuse that well he's you know,

he's buttering bite. Well, like BP said, who wouldn't be I mean everybody on this phone call right now, most people listening would think almost anybody would be better. And by just like there's a lot of people would think almost anybody be better. In Trump, we've done had Trump for thority. We've seen what the dell was. He tells people anything they want to hear. And you know some people, and I think you're one of them. You will listen to anything. Who is this queue? Who's the white hats?

When's always two week Chicken gonna kick in? That? We sat here and listen to four Day Chest for four years solid, and then we'd still be listening at every day for that man for that January sixth gimmick got big griff that went bad, And now everybody is lumped in with them. And I'm not saying I'll in people's bad or nothing like that. We all pretty much know what the dell is. It was a set up. But I get sick and tird of just hearing this. Obama's running the show. You

know, Trump is buttering Biden and blah blah blah blah blah. I got news for you. You need to start thinking what's your next gimmick? Where? And this is over with next year? And again, what's it going to be if he did get back in there and it's worser than what it was the first time, everything's pointing and he can't win. He barely got in there. I thought he was the like forty s thousand votes. Excuse me, Tony Harterburn said several times about eighty sums house. How can he

get in him? I mean, answer that, explain how's he going to get back in there? You know? I mean I've seen all these hope on videos from different channels on YouTube talking about the red wave, and you've seen the red wave was a pink sting. But no, I don't think he's gone just for the simple factor who he is, where he's been,

he's been president, and he's a multi vega. Now he's not going to get if they if he'd been this quote big alphabl he just told him in New York, kiss my ass, I'm not coming, you know what I mean, That's exactly what hell I tell them. I writing Miles, a regular fucking person. Excuse my language, but I mean, get real. I mean, this legend of the Chosen One, if enough people was buying it, they'd be out in the streets screaming and hollering. You know,

thousands of phone, thousands of people. Again, most people they've seen it, they know it, they know what the deal is. They're just sitting here cheering a football game. Basically, I don't know what the answer is. I don't know exactly who all these people is. I don't even consider myself a conspiracy theres I'm just a pattern. As you keep saying some of the same stuff over and over and when using mystograph, and you know, things, seems like that keeps going downhill. I mean him much worser.

Actually isn't Underbiden than is under Trunk. I mean really, I mean, like I said, but the last turn they you know, his economy was great. They had to print about you know, eleven and a half troyal trigging between you know, the fall of twenty nineteen, from the middle of twenty twenty, between all the slush funds and you know several begging here and several bigon iron trying to keep every sign crop that was that by spout.

Even before the COVID started, he let facts you run everything. He signed all the orders. He was the one behind the alash Hut downs. And that's like a lot of this drama. We say, you're right now far as I'm concerned, that's just getting that knocked off the table, which I don't see you who would think that Pance has got a chance of winning. Who's going to vote for Chris Christie? The stances he should have, you

know, stake Faria back off through the winner. But you know he had to go back and playing Florida, So you know, let's go ahead, you know, and Michael Michael Murk a guy again, get him on in there. So then that way that this other war out boomer that don't know word did he PopEd like so even when he pooped on himself, can beat him one more time and then people like you can be sitting back screaming, oh but Trump was better. And four day chest and I don't like crazy.

Yeah, all right, but all I got to say about and give it back to him so he can come up with some no no, no, no, no no, don't no, no no, Harley, don't don't do that. Don't do that. Let's not do that because we're we're almost out of time, and I want to give everybody a chance to cap stuff. I don't want to keep going back and forth on this. Bottom line is that you answered the question. Uh and uh and and I'll leave it there. As far as you don't know who the man is, that

was part of his question. You said you don't know, and that's that. Um Or if there is a man, that's for sure who's running things, Uh, you figure that he's not going to go to prison based on his privileged position, that's it. It doesn't matter. Any of this other stuff doesn't matter because he's one of these privileged people. That's it. Um So that's the way I see your answer boiling down. And Uh, there's not much more to it, man. Uh. So there you go,

but we will let Jimmy James get in a final word. I'm gonna put everybody on hold for a second though, and be Pete. I think we should go around and let everybody have their final say and be done with this because I'm done. Okay, what's your thoughts? Yeah we can. We can send it around for closing thoughts and uh, wrap it up, okay, And I'm cutting it off there. And hopefully I've been I've tried to be as fair as possible to everybody. But let's start with Chris, because

I because I love a little chaos to begin with. And uh, and uh, who knows what the hell Chris Graves is going to say? Because uh, that's that's the name of the game when it comes to the new prisoners, when it comes to digging Chris Graves, when it comes to get mad with Chris Graves, I dare you to predict what he's gonna say and

what he's gonna do and who he's gonna have on It's impossible. Uh So Chris Chaos, my brother, Go well, I think the guy behind the curtain that's running the show is a gentleman by the name of Vic Tayback. That's about it. That's a chaos and Harlan never changed, buddy. We're gonna do some kind of a show at some point. You're awesome, dude, Vic like Alice? Is that from like the day you go? All right? I was just wondering if I had that. I was thinking I

might have that name mixed up. But I will I'm old Chuck. Yeah, I will let Mel run this diner all day long, because I'd rather have him in the White House than either one of these other burnt out boomers like Carlan or Fikas planned why not? Although I vote cannabis not Fikes. Put cannabis in there, Okay, a cannabis plant has provided nobody will smoke it before November? All right? Serious? Put that in there. Run that. Put poison ivy in there. From Batman. There you have it,

any Batman villain from the what do they call that? The Villain gallery right there, the Rogue Gallery gallery and Arkham Asylum there it is Arkham Asylum. Let's pick one at random, and they already have. And Joe Biden just doesn't know where he is anymore. I love that he's pooping on himself and he doesn't know it. Harlan gems every single time, mixed in with what he's saying. I love it. Okay, So no more arms. Jesus although we might get some more in a minute. B Pete, who

shall we go with next? For their closing thoughts? Should we go with Vance? I think we should go with Vance. Yeah, yeah, let's go all right. Let me take Vance off hold because I put everybody on hold in order to get through that segment and Vance. Your closing thoughts for this week, well, um, I'll just I'll put out my one of my my big uh. I don't know how to phrase it right now, but but basically, what people need to uh, you know, everybody's aware

of that they're on different levels of whatever. You know, they perceived the policies to be in the current dynamic or whatever. And the way to move forward is to to understand that I was born a human being, okay, and it happened to be born in San Antonio, Texas, and they taught me that my name was Darents and that I was, you know, an

American and a Texan and a Baptist and whatever. And had I been born in Iraq, I'd be Iraqi. So you know, who knows what I would think then, but I don't think it be exactly what I'm thinking now, So you know, in order to change reality you have to change your perception of reality. And the reality is is that we are all just human beings on the planet and whoever it is is running the show, which isn't

an individual, but it is not the people that we're voting for. I mentioned to who and the United Nations, and you know all those nobody votes for any of those people, they're not elected by us, they're not representing us. They're representing the structure that rules this world. And so we can have a whole show on that. But that's my closing segment is you know, we need to become human beings again and we can move forward. There you have it, So now be Pete. I give you the enviable task

of choosing the last two. We got Harlan and we got Jimmy James. Should go with Jimmy. Okay, let's see all. I think I clicked the right Yes, I still have two things on the board from me Jimmy James. But I think I got the right one. Oh yeah, you get three one? So can hear me, yes, sir, I can hear you your final thoughts for this week. My final thoughts for the week are the China now owns both sides of the Panama Canal. They're setting up

a base on Cuba. They have a larger navy than us. They just gave a bunch of sonic missiles to Iran, which could reach us in twenty three minutes. Meanwhile, the Democratic Party emphasizes open boarders. That matters. They want to molest and castrate your children in grade school. That matters. Uh, they support and fantaside literally, Uh, that matters. Uh. The economy about Biden's policies have destroyed our economic situation, mostly by destroying the

petroleum industry and everything else. All of his policies are a disaster. He's caused all this mystery. Gases doubled in place, and the claims, I don't know. They claim it's five percent right now. Everything's double and priced though, so we know that's a lot, you know, So what so what so? What exactly does matter to people? You got? Oh, it doesn't matter. It's just them, the man, the master of the universe. We don't need to pick a side. We don't need to pick

the worst of two. Evil to hell, let's all become Chenese. I don't get you anyways, that bus have a good weekend. There you go. So there's Jimmy James view of it. Uh, it doesn't matter, Sure it does. I'm getting crushed by the economy. That matters. And in that way, Biden certainly sucks more than Trump. I'll give you that, because it has gotten worse economically. Everything else it's a puppet show. What can I say? Would it have gotten worse if Trump was in there?

I think so? But that's just me. So that leaves us with Harlan, right, Uh me, Pete or am I wrong? You're correct? Okay, Harley? Your final thoughts Trump twenty twenty four, Mike America, gag again. Go ahead, but the Christ fall, I've got it on my mind. I have got me a new laptop and I've got the first state to Scapa about this not done the second third stage? Ye, then every get back to it. But let do a task collar pretty sung if you want to, we'll get together in day something. Absolutely. My

friend absolutely Advance too. Vance the Boston bombing too. We got to do that too, very soon. All right, yep, definitely. So Harlan and Vance will soon be guests on the Chris Graves Universe of Media, one way or another, either digging or get mad or geez, what else, don't take our word for it, or the New Prisoners, or as you say, hanging with mister Cooper, hanging with mister Cooper. And he's a t gif back of the take conspiring with mister Cooper. Conspiring with mister Cooper.

Right, Hey, I don't get everything right. Yeah, he's wanting to come on his show to say, yeah, he wants Chuck to be on there too, and the Tiger's Day. Anytime Tiger wants just tell them to let me know and I'll be there. Well, we'll do that. He just said, Oh yeah, I guess catch this show a lot because you know, he use one on Fridays. The one reason why I catch his and Don's more than most anybody else's live streaming because on Fridays, I'm

for show were up. And that's usually like when I'm getting loaded and I'm sitting to these places, you know what the stuff, so I've got plenty of time, you know, to actually listen to it. That's where I wind up missing a lot of other shows because I'm using this leak. They're in the leak when the shows are own. Did you did you get to chat together? Harlan did you get a chance to get listening to Monica Perez Wood Tiger because that finally happens that I fell asleep. But I did listen

to you and William Ramsey um last night. There you go chat. So there's all those updates, Harland, any final final word here and then I'm gonna give it to be Pete to close out. But pretty much, you know, we've done wordybody else, you know, with the legend of four D tests and Orange Jesus as it is. I mean, I know people don't like to hear it, you know, over where I'm from, Like a long story short, I've turned a lot of people against me just because

that just laid the facts out about it. A lot of people's got mad at maybe you know. I mean, you know you folks, it's like living up in the Northeast or something did that might be a Republican or conservative where a Trump fan you might thank you catch hay Well used to live in East Tennessee. Said I'm pretty you know, totally diver story. But I appreciate everybody, and thanks for having me on the shoe again. And we'll see you next week if we can. There you go, Harlan and again

you know Tennessee, I come to Georgia too. That's always fun, So be Pete. I guess that leads the final final word, final word to you, Well, has good s been a good night with a lot of discussion. I'm like to think everybody for calling in, Um, you guys make the show. Um. Election wise, guys, we got a long year ahead of us. I'm going to see a bunch of spend, a bunch of money waste all to promote some bean head to the highest office in

this country. And I mean, all I can do is say, like I said earlier, if this is the best we can do, we deserve what's coming down the road, because it is going to get worse. Our government is so politicized now you can't you can't let any agencies start running amuck. They're at the point where they could and it's time for things to start being rained in. And I don't see it happening. I don't you know. Most people are worried about going to work, paying the bills. What

are we going to do on the weekend? You know? Can I get Can I get my kid into college? Can I afford the car repair that I've got to do. That's what people are worried about. This this media show going on where most of the mainstream sources you know who they're pulling forward right off the bat. You have to go dig to find the information. So I you know, I commend everybody dig for the information. Don't rely on what you're seeing. If you're seeing it on a mainstream media source,

ignore it, just write it off. Go out there, do your homework, like Glenn Beck says, and look into these issues, the things that matter to you. Start supporting the people that support your position. You're only going to change this if you start at a local level and work up because the system is just too corrupt. And I hate to be a you know, a Debbie downer, but yes, this system is so corrupt. I don't know that it can be cleaned up, you know, to deal with

it or try to make a change. Us sitting on the side, it's not gonna benefit on in in any way. And there you have it. So and there we have it for the week here on the Ocelli effect, the Ocelli network, and uh, in conclusion, spot dark and all that, I am merely o'celly. All of you are indeed the effect good night,