The Ochelli Effect 5-30-2024 Mike Swanson

Deal. Shelley Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet Window dot Com and listeners like you now and nowt in all media. Cha'll May thirty, twenty twenty four, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, this the O'Kelly effect. You hearing us, most likely hearing the podcast. But we are broadcasting live on a Thor's Day, and what an interesting Thor's day it is. Apparently first time I ever heard of this former US president convicted of felonies, thirty

four of them in fact in New York. Now we'll get into my analysis and what that really means later sometime. Maybe I'll wait till tomorrow because I've got Mike Swanson with me from Wallstreet Window dot com, the author of the War State, the author of Why the Vietnam War. Now, Wallstreet Window dot Com is retiring as a news website, but I think you can still sign up for the news lie that are over there. There is a general

post which explains that it's being shut down and all that. But Mike will be continuing to write, and I'm really hoping that he's going to join me in Dallas on November twenty second this year, So you know, there's a lot of stuff still going on. But anyway, that's not the topic of tonight's discussion. Chuck, why are you mentioning the JFK thing? Because I'm going to mention it all the way up to November, That's why. And there might be a lot of surprises as to who actually shows up at that

particular event, and I'm working on a few of them personally. So before I even talked to Mike, I wanted to rewind it a couple of days. Why, Because I saw this coming. I knew we were going to have a verdict. I mean, people were saying, Oh, the verdict won't be out till next week, and blah blah blah. I said, no, no, no, this is going to be a quick thing. They've already been dragged for many hours with the closing statements and all that.

The New York City thing what they keep calling in the media of the hush money trial, although it's not really about hush money. It's actually about business practices. Business practices that the Trump organization and probably the majority of big business in New York City, a lot of business practices that they might have done. You think these guys aren't using their accountants to account for money in places where it doesn't necessarily belong, which to me is the thrust of this whole

alleged thing that he allegedly did. And I still say allegedly because I guarantee you one thing, despite the fact that you have a conviction on thirty four counts today and there's supposed to be sentencing in July. This is not a

done deal. This is not the way it's going to stand, whether it is on appeal or it is through some other mechanism, or a verdict is set aside, or somebody starts doing exploratory explorations and investigations into the jury and how proper, improper this or that or the third thing was, or did the judge's daughter go ahead and make some money through the Democratic Party, et cetera. All of that is part of the circus. How do we know that this is a massive circus. Well, if you listen to me and

you take any of what I say seriously, you already knew it. But when Bobby de Niro, yeah, that Bobby de Niro showed up in New York City on the twenty eighth and held a press conference, and everybody you know on the Fox side of the world was definitely stressing this was part of the Biden campaign efforts, and he was even confronted by Trump's supporters during the presser. I'm gonna play a little bit of it for you before I even

talked to Mike. Mike, hang on, because I know you got a lot to say, and you're gonna explain some stuff that's probably not in the big headlines at the moment. But I'm gonna tackle this headline first by rewinding a couple of days and going back to May twenty eighth, when De Niro was on the street and somebody couldn't control their car alarm and Trump's supporters were milling around the Democratic press conference that was going on, with Bobby de Niro

up front and a couple of former DC police people behind him. This is my neighborhood, downtown New York City. I grew up here and feel at home in these streets. I feel comfortable. The Twin Towers fell just over here, just over there, this part of the city was like a ghost tower. But we vowed we would not allow terrorists to change our way of life, and we started the Tribeca Festival to bring people back. I love this city. I love this city. I don't want to destroy it.

Donald Trump wants to destroy not only the city, but the country, and eventually he could destroy the world. But we vowed we would not allow terrorists do. I owe the city a lot. And that's why it's so weird that Donald Trump is just across the street because he doesn't belong in my city. I don't know where he belongs, but he surely doesn't belong here.

We New Yorkers used to tolerate him when he was just another grubby real estate hustler masquerading as a big shot, a two big playboy, lying his way into the tabloids, pretending to be a spokesman, a spokesperson for himself. He was calling it as himself for himself to fool the press into inflating his net worth. A clown. But this city is pretty accommodating. We make room for clouds. We have them all over the city. People who do

crazy things in the street we tolerated. It's part of the city of the culture. But not a person like Trump poill eventually run the country. That does not work, and we all know that. Anyway, we make grou up of clowns to each his own, but no one takes him or took him really seriously. Now, I find this all very funny, and I'm going to fast forward to another part in this de Niro's statement. You definitely get a hint of where de Niro's going. And I want to make a

note about something. You know how everybody's talking about the cognitive abilities of mister Trump and mister Biden at this point in time, and I've definitely made lots of references to both of them being probably a little too old to be doing anything other than yelling at squirrels from their porch. No offense to my listener ed out on the West Coast, but because ed Ed loves his squirrels, but he's not yelling at squirrels and thinking they're his kids or something. Okay,

we've seen that in other neighborhoods. But let's go to a later part of this suppresson one sec a later part of this presser with sorry commercial jumped in on me out of nowhere with de Niro, when all of a sudden he gets confronted by a Trump supporter and it's it's just it's kind of hilarious. Again, you can tell where what the direction is here. I find it ironic that de Niro says, oh, you know, we don't usually tolerate clowns in New York. In New York, they generally ignore people unless

you're killing somebody or dying. And even then, you know the old joke, who was it one of the stand up comedians. I'm not going to try and remember who was said. You know, this is New York cpr'. Here's how it works. You know, if you're laying on the ground and you're suffocating for air, somebody stands over and goes, get up before you ef and die. That's about it. Uh, you know these things

are all true. New York people can pass by, be dressed wildly, be wild individuals, and be clowns literally and nobody pays them any mind. They're just there. They're just part of the background. It is what it is. So the idea that clowns stand out in New York, I can't stand with you, Bobby. They don't anyway. Let's go back to de Niro's comments, and when somebody starts to talk to him about stuff democracy,

they are the true heroes. Okay, he's saying the true heroes. And he's talking about the former DC cops and don't worry, I'm almost done with this clip. But he's talking about the former DC cops, Mike Fanon, who's been out there on the media a lot, and another guy behind him. He's referencing them, turning to them, pointing to them, all that.

And he's talking about January sixth, which, according to de Niro and a lot of his public statements, fascinating that he's very concerned about this and how our democracy is in trouble, you know, very much on the left wing side of things here de Niro is. But just for the record, you know, let's see, Biden is eighty one years old. Trump is

seventy seven, and de Niro's eighty. De Niro is still able to speak pretty well, unlike either one of the other guys who you know, if you if you actually try to read what Trump says, it's a little hard to read Biden. I mean, come on, man, how many you know? I don't even need to pick on this. Can he get through a sentence? Can he get through five minutes without looking like he's falling asleep? I mean, they were talking about Trump falling asleep in the you know,

in the trial all week. But anyway, let me get through this so I can get to Mike Swanson because there's more news to cover that nobody else is going to cover. We're going to do it here, but let's just finish up with this confrontation with the NERO and a Trump supporter during this pressure. These guys are the true heroes. They stood and put their lives on the line for these low lives for Trump. They lie under oath that we all take for granted. This is not a threat, this is a

reality. And that's why I've joined the Biden Harris campaign because the only way to preserve our freedoms and hold on to our humanity is to vote for Joe Biden for president. Really too, we don't have a choice. On January sixth, while Republican lawmakers despicably tried to keep the loser Trump, the loser Trump in the White House and Trump inspired insurrectionists stormed the Capitol, brave men and women from law enforcement put their lives on the line to defend this country,

our democracy. They are the true heroes. These guys are the true heroes. They stood and put their lives on the line for these low lives for Trump. They lie under out. Okay, now I'm telling you two things. One, I know the beeping carl A arm is killing you. But this guy tried a couple of times. I don't know if the media picked up on it, but I can hear it. He tried a couple of times to call them liars and to say that they had lied under oath

and this and that. Now he's finally stepped closer to the mic and de Niro can hear him, and now he acknowledges him, and he says, these guys lied under oath. So I know you heard the last time the guy said it, and he definitely caught de Niro's attention. But here's the reaction. They lied under road. What are you telling me? You do excuse me? They lied under road? What do you say those two traders

behind you lied under oath. And meanwhile, I don't blame either one of these guys were having a little trouble being heard or hearing because the car alarms going off not too far away. I mean, it's not right on top of him, but it is annoying. And I love how everybody's trying to tune it out during this presser, and nobody says, hey, somebody, wait a minute, shut that thing on. Nah, let's just go full speed with the car alarm and the beeping. Anyway, here we go,

trainer, they're traders, you gotta. I don't know. I don't even know how to deal with you, my friend, I don't even know how to deal with you. They stood there, they didn't have to, and there were other ones in there who probably were in with them a little bit too, and they found a way to get around. Not these guys. They stood there and fought for us, for you, for you. They weren't fighting for me, No, No, they fought for you, buddy. You're able to stand right here now. They are the true heroes.

I honored to be with these two heroes today from former Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn and former Metropolitan Police officer Michael Fanone. Okay, that's enough for that, because I can't take the car horns no more. But you get the point here, And he does respond to this guy and says, hey, look, man, you know they lied on the roads. Buh buh, Hey, they fought for you. De Niro taking on the you know where Americans were in it all together? Law enforcement. I mean, de Niro

is not a guy who attacks the cops. He's definitely always been a police supporter and all that. But he's also always been a liberal and a Democrat, so all of this kind of makes sense. And he has been personally going after the whole Trump thing. And DeNiro was okay when he was doing the anti vax thing. I don't know if you guys remember, but he was at the front of trying to make sure that people got to see the film Vaxed and all that. So de Niro's all over the map when it

comes to political alignments, but certainly a liberal anyway. Doesn't matter about de Niro. I'm just trying to point out how much of a circus we have. And then he turns it over to dun which is the other guy's name I forgot before in Finen and lets them speak at this presser. And apparently this whole thing orchestrated partially by the Biden campaign or de Niro working for the Biden campaign pulled out the name one way or the other. This is what's

happening on the streets of New York. And later I'll play a Trump's reaction to today's issue is this is again from May twenty eighth. Anyway, Mike Swatson, I wanted you to hear that clip because I wanted to give you an idea of what chaos in New York is like when you're trying to have

a press conference. Have you ever seen anywhere else where people put up with the you know, the car alarm and horn behind him and all that noise, and you know, the Trump supporter gets close enough to the to the presser, you know, even though it's being run by the Democrats across the street from the courthouse. I mean, this is Is this not a comical scene to you, Mike at all? Yeah, that's pretty unique. And I'll say I haven't really been following stuff that closely, so I'm not watching

the TV, and so I didn't see this. This is new to me or hear it either. What I did see though, is on Facebook. I load Facebook up because I see a lot of local stuff on there, and I do remember seeing a meme someone posted about the Niro and this press conference, and it was attacking him and saying something like he's not the tough guy that he plays in the movies. Well, and he's also not a tough guy like Trump, and they were going after him because look, he's

a liberal. He's what the problem is in the country. So you had to have seen that stuff circulating on social media at the very least, because that's how I heard about it. I wasn't watching it on TV. I had to go find the clip after because I saw people having meltdowns, and this is what's been going on, these moments of outrage, these outbursts on

social media. So yeah, so you heard about it the same way I did, except you picked up on it on Facebook, and I don't go to Facebook very often, but probably I saw it on Twitter or something. But go ahead, Yeah, tell me more about it. Well, I mean, I just it's just something I saw and then I don't think I saw it again, you know. And really that's what our what is becoming, or has become since before Trump. He was just the tipping point, but our it's a whole other. But our, the internet itself, I

think started to went through a phase. It's gone through multiple phases since we've been online, right and making content. I have one way or the other for for a long time. In twenty sixteen was a turning point where the social media stuff, Facebook in particular really started to dominate. The Twitter, you know, was next. Well, let me set something up for you. If you don't mind, let me just set this up for you,

because here's the thing. We have noticed the patterns of outrage and the outbursts and the anger of the moment, right, A lot of that driven by social media. Sure it was happening before Trump, but it got perfected during the Trump you know, run for presidency, I think, and throughout his

entire time in office. And yeah, people sure, like for example, people were saying that Trump was the first Twitter president, like he deliberately or you know Obama was using the internet, yeah, obviously, but yeah, and to my mind, yeah, Obama was the first Twitter president really, but he didn't have the as an effective tool. It was a big time effective tool for Trump. But you know what, he was the first an

old politician to be talking directly at people. And nowadays every media, Yeah, nowadays, every politician, every world leader, whether it's a congressman from a part of a state you didn't even know existed, you know, in Michigan, Oklahoma, somewhere else, you know, not one of the big players. It's irrelevant. Everybody's on Twitter now, everybody's out there. Okay, this is not your main focus. You've never been the guy who's like

involved in all the national politics. Although I found it funny that you were a guy who voted for Trump, you know, his first run. Okay, you admitted that on this show. But you know, I almost wonder what you felt like when I was yelling and screaming about it back then. Because anyway, let's not go there. Who cares national politics. You're more concerned with the local stuff. You're more concerned with what's going on near your home, which I think is smarter. Yeah, go ahead with the national

stuff. I've come you know, we've all gone through the past couple of years, and you know, everyone's got caught up in this somehow or another that's watches the news and whatnot. But at this point, and this news today has come out, you know, and like you said, this the outrage cycle and all this stuff. You listen to Danira, Okay, Danira was saying that basically, I mean it was he was about saying that Trump is a terrorist or the equivalent of a terrorist. In the beginning of the

clip, you played right. I thought he was going to go from the towers Wallington. Now today we have a terrorist right here across the street, which is funny again because look, Mike, I'm not saying you were never interested in national politics. Of course you were, but you were interested in

national and international politics and the news back when it was just that. Now that it's this divide and hate and scream at each other and directly it's the thing about the social media stuff is that I've been making content about the stock market for a very long time, and I've seen how that world has changed in the past couple of years with the rise of social media, where now so many people that are getting into the stock market and trading there. They're

look, I'll put it to you an easier way on Facebook. I make it really simple for people instead of going to some uncle convoluted thing. So on Facebook, I made a post this morning, okay, and if I I can link to it, and I think I can drop it in the chat actually so people can see it. I'm gonna try to do that because this is this is a good, a crazy I think that will load up. I post this on a Facebook page, I think I think that image will load up in the in the chat. But anyway, so what this

is, yeah, I'll get it. I'll get it one way or another, like dot, don't worry about that. What anyway, what what I saw was a textbook from Korea for children about a history textbook. Now, when we were young, the textbooks were you know, had a lot of we basically didn't read them. You know, they're boring and a lot of words and this stuff. But this textbook is a history textbook and his cartoons about World War two. And it was sort of like a quiz and I

just describe its people don't have to actually look at it. But it says, how did the war end? How did World War two end? Find the right check the right box. And there's four images, okay, And one has a picture of a smiling, happy man holding some sort of he's holding wheat, and it says the war ended when all the Germans were happy because farming was going well, Yeah, because farm. The next image says

is a picture of Hitler, a drawing of Hitler. His head is down and someone is like talking to him, a guy who is clearly ethnically kind of Korean, and a green shirt is talking to this vaguely hit your cartoon. Yeah ethnic, and he says, And it says Hitler realized his mistake the war, like, okay, hold on, hold on, so just so we get this straight. Okay, the white guy is holding the wheat,

the German white guy Okay. And then the Korean guy comes along and tells Hitler, you know, or the vaguely Asian guy, I should say, really comes along and tells Hitler. But I think the suggestion because of where it is is Korean. Hey, you know, you might have made a mistake here, and Hitler, Yeah, that's wrong. Images two kids writing letters, it says Hitler stopped the war when all the children in the world wrote letters asking him to stop the war. One is a black fella,

and the other one looks like a white sort of white kid. It could be Korean, though, a black kid and a vaguely non black kid for sure, to show some sort of ethnic diversity. And they put one on a blue background, one on a pinkish reddish background, And they even gave him two separate color desktops, but had them both universally writing letters right handed. By the way, Hitler, and that stopped the war. The next image is a bomb going off, and it says the warranted when the

atomic bomb was dropped in Hiroshima in Japan. Whoa now wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait now I just want to put this this all in one pocket, Mike, just real fast. The wheat started to grow good in Germany. Okay, farming was going well. Hitler realized he made a mistake, so he stopped the war, probably because the Korean guy was talking to him. The kids wrote him letters and told him the war was bad. And then the US dropped a bomb and a story and what is the title

of this page, my friends? How did the war end? And then the subtitle part, like you know, under the big title is how did how did World War two end? Try to find the right content and picture, So they want you to pick from these four selections. Because there was good week growing because Hitler realized he had made a mistake and he stopped the war. Or was it because children wrote letters? Or was it because the bomb was dropped in Hiroshima? No mention of Nagasaki by I screwed Nagasaki right

anyway? Which one of these answers is correct as to why World War two ended? Right, Mike. That's that's the question in the booklet, isn't it You see that? Yeah? Yeah, And that's how this is an educator. This is an educational thing. But what strikes me about this is that this is essentially learning by memes. Yeah, this is teaching children history through memes. And it's stupid and we're laughing at it. It's ridiculous.

But this is because Jesus has become a huge dominant way that we're all thinking now because we're being influenced by memes. There's a report I read last week about the financial markets making the argument it's a national security report, okay for some think take, and it's claiming that there's a risk to the financial markets

through the phrase it used was me mimetic engineering. Mimetic engineering, which so I read that, and you know, what they were claiming was that people could create memes and use them to engineer people into thinking a certain way about stocks the stock market, making them believe there's risk in the market and just the other or the opposite and just the other week they can stock game stock had another their surge after being dormant, you know, since for two years,

and the surge happened because that Roaring Kitty guy that had you know, promoted it two years ago, he vanished and he simply posted a meme and that made people jump into the stock and it went up like crazy, and then it crashed. So that's an example of it. But I'm just using these stories to say that we're are this is you know, we're not reading

books, we're not consuming a lot of real hard information anymore. We're just watching the TV, watching videos and going through feeds and looking at these memes. And it's so easy to manipulate people and and do whatever or but even if but in the end the result is a massive dumbing down of people. And I'm telling you the stock market stuff. I've seen new people get interested in the market, you know for thirty years, you know now and now

it's almost hopeless. Well, and their frame of reference is the meme first one and someone, I mean literally the crypto thing. All they is pictures of people with coins in their eyes and stuff like that. And that's screenshots of short term gains that aren't sustainable. You're not gonna you know, they show you screenshots of someone with one hundred dollars turning into ten thousand with some wild trade. Of course, maybe maybe that happened, but you're not going

to do that over and over again. You're going to go bust trying to do that. But the people believe that's how you make money. Now, but that's the great case. Tell them otherwise into politics or whatever, and it's the same result. Well, because Mike, this is the reality, right, this is our new reality. Let's face it. Okay, you're talking about the stock market. I bring it up again. I'm curious, by the way, because I know you were keeping track of this for a

little bit. What happened to Robinhood? Right? But look, when you have the app based reality. Okay, I got bombarded all this week, by the way, with a whole bunch of all my commercials this week. When they weren't political commercials. It was a whole bunch of things like, look, I know you're broke, why don't you play some games? If you download different apps on your phone, you can get paid to play games. You can go play games for free and get paid. People are in

an app based reality. Their news, their information, their knowledge of the world around them is fed to them by apps. And when they're not fed directly by the apps and their interaction with different games. Whether it is, you know, a coin Master or a Candy Crush or Robin Hood, it doesn't matter because any other education they get is from what the pictures they see on Twitter. They don't read a damn thing. I had a back and

forth with a fairly big name author a few days ago. Okay, a guy whose name would be easily recognizable by everybody listening to this show right now, I'm sure of it. And the guy pretty much said to me, why should I go on your show because he's never been on Why should I go on your show because you know you're not that big? And I kind

of went, Okay, I'm not that big. I'm not you know, I'm not Joe Rogan basically is what the problem is, right, And I said, well, here's the thing about how big I am or how big I'm not. I've got listeners who actually read books and buy books. Still, Okay, so you know, I don't know how big anybody else's audience is that you've been in the past couple of months, weeks, years, whatever. But I got to tell you a lot of their audiences don't buy books. Okay, So you tell me, how many books did you sell

when you were on big name podcast inserted here? And yeah, I think I'm gonna be able to schedule him for a week after next Okay, just saying, because I got him to consider that in an email exchange and he kind of went, huh, you actually have listeners who like read books? I said, yeah, I do. And so so you guys out there who do indicate to me and do show that you buy books when I have authors on Guess what, it's an argument to help me get better guests.

So thank you. I just wanted to point that out, Mike. I mean, most of the people that listen to this show own your book. You know that, right, I mean, that's the thing about it. I mean, well, I can't say most, but I could say a whole lot of them do the ones that I hear from, at least that's what they tell me that they have off the book. You're right, You're absolutely right, you know, so hopefully that person listen to you. Yeah, so I don't have you know, two million people. I'm not mister

Beast, which, by the way, that's another thing. Have you heard of mister Beast? Yeah, but I don't know if I've ever watched it. Okay, mister Beast is basically an out of control YouTube guy who gives away money. He has people do stunts and he basically gives him ten to twenty one hundred thousand dollars to do things. Occasionally, he's given away a million dollars. Okay, because he's got such a massive following, he makes

enough money. I don't know how he started this whole thing, but he'll give away like one hundred thousand dollars no problem, or he'll turn around and have you go. Okay, you have to live in a grocery store, and every day you have to exchange you know, if I start at one thousand dollars worth of goods to me every day, and then every day it has to double, and you have to give me those goods and line them up in carts and I'll cart it out of there. And you have to

live in the grocery store. And as many days as you live there, I'll pay you, you know, ten thousand dollars or twenty thousand dollars a week to maintain this while you empty the store until the store is totally empty, and then you can walk away. But you can walk away at any time and get nothing, or you can face the challenge of trying to live

in a grocery store. Okay, he'll do stuff like that, and people watch his videos and he gets, you know, plenty of money from people just viewing his stuff, and somehow he's able to give away huge cash amounts. Okay, So other people that don't get lucky enough to run into mister Beast, well, you know what, they've got a download a game. We'll pay you to play a game. If you play a game and you

get far enough in the game, we'll pay you money. It is a very, very weird situation we have here with this media and the interaction and the fact that it is all app based, it is all meme based, and that is the reality in which we find ourselves, which means people that are cheering, people that are booing, people that are freaking out and getting all bent out of shape about this or that or the third thing that's happening

in the political realm or anywhere else, usually don't actually know what's happening. They're just following what the apps are feeding them and what the memes are telling them. I mean, does that sound inaccurate? To you, Mike, or am I being too harsh on the general public? What do you think? No, No, that's exactly what's I've come to conclude. And it started in twenty sixteen in but did it Do you think it started before that or it just got like hot as soon as Trump was coming in? I

mean, was it just more popular? I mean, because it seems to me like the groundwork started before that. But obviously they perfected it, they made it better, and they've turned it into a better business. I mean, Trump started out as an excellent content creator for the cable news networks, but now it's well beyond that. Right, He's got his own social media platform, he's got his own apps, he's got his own merch store. So he's pretty much like an in bodes there like anybody else, except one

thing. He's going to get to be president again, I think. Anyway, but you have been focused on local politics and stuff and things actually happening near you, And well, let's talk about Virginia, Mike, because that's where I thought we were going to go. But I think you're absolutely right. We're dealing with an app and meme based society for the most part around us, not you guys who listen to this show generally, But take a

look around you. I think everybody that you encounter is pretty much being told what to do and how to follow the circus and what to get outraged about, what to buy, what to ingest, what to consume, what not to consume, and what to play with, whether it's Robinhood or it's coin Master, to rely on it for their income, their wages, as it were to be in the world. But Mike, what about what's happening in Virginia that nobody's talking about right now? I mean, uh, what's happening?

Can you fill us in well? With Trump? So, Virginia has been a Democrat state for quite some time, you know, voted I think since gosh, uh, let mean I have to go, let me go. Look, Well, are you saying that they always put in a Democratic governor or all the politicians in Virginia, not not like it's not like California. There's a Republican governor now. But when it comes to the present presidential elections, the last time they voted for a Democrat it's been a really long

time. Well, what you're saying is that Virginia generally will vote for the Democratic presidential candidate. Is that the idea? Yeah, they generally vote for the Democrat in and maybe they voted for I think uh, I think since Clinton they've always voted Democrat. I think they may have voted Republican over to caucus of what you know, when the first Bush if Ronald Reagan, and but since Clinton, mm hmm, I think they've all I think it's been

a Democrat every year. But regardless, it's heavily heavily Democrat. Uh. The Senate, the governor seat and switches back and forth. Uh. And the state legislatures is pretty very narrowly split right now, so very close, so it can swing one way or the other. But you know, in the last election, Trump lost to Biden fifty four percent, ten points, fifty four to forty four. He lost to Clinton by five points, and

so far wait, Clinton won the state of Virginia in twenty sixteen. You're telling them, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I'm surprised, were go ahead, Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. It's heavily Democrat, you know, and when it votes for the president. So this poll

came out just yesterday by a Roanoke College and political people. You know reading articles about it, they say that this is the most accurate poll historically in the state of Virginia when it comes to this, and it has the race even right now, forty two percent say they'll vote Biden forty two percent Trump. And I've read seen and I don't know what's going on in these states, but Trump is winning in many polls in these swing states like Pennsylvania,

Wisconsin, and so forth. Now, the last reporting that I read on the Roano poll, right, because they've taken a few of these. This is the thing that's got some people alarmed, apparently because this is a weird shift. They're saying here that they're split at forty two percent a piece, right, yeah, yeah, So when other candidates are listed, Biden holds a thirty eight. Yeah, the thing is though to be even split forty forty two. That's a toll disaster. That's a lot. He should do

ahead, he should be ahead. That's a complete in Virginia. I would note that a year ago, one of the memes that the Democrats were using I was is bidonomics, you know, bidonomics, bionomics, And they've had it. They've dropped that. They've decided to drop that recently because they've realized that it's actually, at this point, turning people off. Yeah, Bidenomics is pissing people off. Bionomics sounds like a disease now it does. Because

why though, Mike, Because here's the problem. And I said, people eye. But that's what I said when they started pushing this, I said, are you out of your minds with telling us? You know? Because again they pulled the trick. Look, I have complained, and you know

you've been on with me enough times. I mean, you and I have probably done one hundred shows where I have sat here and said, Mike, the reality of the financial world and all the BS they have on the network TVs and all the stuff they show on the stock market and whatever else has zero to do with the reality we're living in. Right. I've said this a million times. I say to you, Mike, why do they keep telling us the economy is good when it's sucks? We're getting eaten alive?

Right And in recent the recent past, you know, two years, I got to tell you it's gotten a hell of a lot worse. I mean, as much as I want to argue against Trump, because the guy does make me want to vomit. The problem is people that are for him go, well, are you better off now or were you better off when Trump was in office? Is it Trump who made it better off? Well,

there's another question. But here's the deal. If you say that you were doing better now then when Trump was in office, I mean I want to know you because you're doing something that one hundred percent of everybody else I run into is not able to do. Everybody's suffering at this point. We're getting squeezed because of inflation. So you wrap all that around and you start talking about, well, it's the Bidenomics plan. Well, now I've got something

to blame on the fact that I can't feed my family. Mike, I've got something to blame. I can call it Bidenomics when my electric builds ripples and I didn't know what was going to happen. Right. I can't afford to buy laundry soap because of Bidenomics. I can't afford to buy Hamburger, not even the cheapest crap suspect stuff that's turning gray at the supermarket anymore, because it's ten fifteen dollars a pound. Ooh, Bidenomics great, you know, I mean, it's stupid to run around and say, well, the

economy's doing well when everybody's suffering. The only thing that didn't go up is people's wages, or at least if it did go up, it didn't go up enough to cover what's happening here. Or am I out of my mind? Mike? Tell him out at you too, that I learned last year from the from the local race, what both what the Biden campaign is trying to do here, which for what I saw locally made backfire on him. So and when I'm talking, I'll tell you what I really think about these

candidates at the end. So when I say this, I'm not advocating for Trump. I'm just trying to analyze what is happening. Okay, you know I'm not. I'm not pushing one can or the other. I'm just telling you the fact what's going on. No problem is so the Biden campaign and the Trump campaign have both decided to hold a presidential debate at the end of June. Apparently the motivation, you know that the Trump campaign thinks that Biden

will stumble or look foolish. Maybe they have nothing to lose because or Trump Trump. The expectations for Trump in the debate are so low, I guess because unless you already like them, you know, the media expectations are so low that you'll probably do better than their low expectations, which is just flat stupid. Which is just flat stupid, because the one thing that Trump is

good at is trying to bark at some bud and talk them down. Meanwhile, Biden, every time he goes out it's like I was just so. The thing is that the Biden camp, they think his expectations are so low too, that all he has to do is, you know, not lookin. All he's got to do is speak clearly for five minutes and importantly though, well, no, there's a in their view, there's a bigger reason

than this. And in their their claim or belief is that the reason these Poe numbers are not good for Biden in that Virginia one, that is a disaster. Yeah, but the reason they're not good and they're they're what they're claiming in believing, I guess is that people just start paying attention to the race, and uh, they just have. And I think there's a lot of truth to that. You know, one thing about the poll in Virginia.

I read some articles where someone and someone made the comment that Biden's biggest problem is in Trump is that the Democrats are apathetic in supporting Biden because they don't tell you why. But you know it's inflation. Well, how are they going to get excited? Look, the guys know, so I know that. But the problem that the Biden camp acknowledges this reality, and they claim that once people start to pay attention to the election, they'll then remember

their negative views of Trump and therefore be motivated vote. And as a result, they wanted to do the debate early in June. I mean, they're doing the debate before the damn either two kids, even at their conventions. So the Biden camp believes this will help, they'll active make the people because

it'll be in the news. And basically, in other words, they're trying to bring the election early, get the election season going instead of August when the Democrats are their convention, or late July, bring it early, bring it a bit early. Now. What I want to tell you though, you know, they think that's that's their chance to win. Now, what I learned last year locally is and I was involved in with some local candidates in local elections. Now the Republican Party. We have a Republican governor.

They the governor decided to promote early voting with the idea that Democrats do early voting and we need to get Republicans to do it. So he decided to try to promote that last year, and in the races in Virginia he sent out you know, he did. The governor sent out statements about early voting and tried to really encourage it and tried to encourage Republican Party leaders on the

local level to do it too. So okay, so the Republicans in Virginia said, let's get the Republicans to vote early too, so this way we can compete with the fact that the Democrats get all these votes. Let's encourage that. Tried to do so what happened I was the people everyone was conservative pretty much where I lived. The people I'm supporting their conservatives. They're Republicans right now. One of them told me they don't think it would work because

people Republicans are just skeptical early voting, and he thought it's stupid. But what ended up happening was the the Chamber of Commerce holds debates for local races, usually in October, and they decided to hold it a month earlier, in starting in September, over a few week period because this early voting idea, and what ended up happening was, uh, people did campaign early thinking

this was going to happen. And then even if you don't think it's going to happen, well you got a campaign early because everyone else is doing it. So they all all the candidates campaigned early. What happened October came and I know, I knew this was happening because you know, I write, I was writing about it, and I can see the number of people reading my articles, and it was falling in October. In October, the number

of people reading my articles just dropped. You know. Well, so let me let me cut Yeah, let me cut to the chase with a question then, Mike, because this is what I predict would happen in this case, and what I think is gonna happen regarding these stupid early debates is that if they actually do them all, which I doubt they will, I think they're gonna do one, find out it's a disaster, and both camps are gonna pull out. By the way, from future debates, it's too far

from voting day. So what happens is people forget. Yeah, they're gonna forget. Yeah, yeah, you're one hundred percent right now. Okay, they're gonna forget what happened in June. It won't matter by November. I want people to know that factor. Yeah, I didn't tell the whole early voting thing. What happened here, it didn't work. In fact, we had the lowest voting turnout in years. Now, people, I didn't opposite happened. Yeah, no, people, what happened was I did not know

this in advance. I want everybody to know I didn't know any of this in advance. I'm just listening to what Mike's saying and going, you know what I think would happen in that case this, And guess what turns out that's exactly what happened. But go ahead. So what what happened was the people campaign so early that by October you forget people. You know, they've done that. They don't need to hear it anymore, and they tuned out. And then a month goes by and now it's election day and people didn't

A lot of people didn't jump to vote. Is the lowest turnout in years, and I think that's what's gonna happen here because too, I think it's going to be a really low turnout election and they're doing it too early, and the same thing's going to happen. And there's already low, low enthusiasm for both canates among the majority of people. I mean, the polls show that both can Eates are disliked. Uh. And that's that's the way it is. But Trump has his very very solid supporter base that is going to

stick with him no matter what. Biden doesn't have that. No, And number two, here's the thing about it. It's not just that they forget about it by the time November or October rolls around. But on top of it, here's the other problem. Oversaturation. How sick of political commercials are you? By the time you get to you know, November second, right, or November fifth, or whatever the voting day is, you get so overburdened with this crap because they start putting it everywhere, right that you get

overrun by these stupid political commercials. Think about it, anybody listening to this in your location, right, your governor's race, your local congress, whatever, you are getting hit with senators that aren't even in your district, but you're close to their district. You are so overrun with their commercials that you remember parts of them, but you're so irritated by it that you're sick of

it by the time you get to voting day. So you're either sick of it or you've forgotten what has happened over the past year, because everybody's got a short attention span nowadays. So those two things put together mean to me, Mike that this early, let's do it early crap is counterproductive all the way around and will drive down on voter turnout in general, because one they'll be sick of hearing about it, and two they'll forget a whole lot of

stuff, even the debates. So why are they doing this except well, maybe somebody has it in their mind, let's drop the voter turnout a bit, let's turn down the heat and have less people engaged. I mean, that's the only thing I could come up with their incomponent what they're doing. Oh is that the other answer? Well, there's that, plus there's the millions and millions upon millions that they have to spend the exactly. Yeah, there's a lot of people making money on all the consult yep you know,

might be made. There's a whole industry behind this, and that's the beauty of it, right. Those people are gonna get paid. Doesn't matter how they screw things up, misinform you, or twist things around or irritate the hell out of you with commercials. You're gonna get it because it's somebody's job. Okay, I'm sorry, Mike, I had to throw that in.

So what are your thoughts here though? On Virginia? You think we're going to have the same kind of problem here where there's going to be low voter turnout and you know, oh geez, we got to vote for one of these two old guys because Bobby Kennedy is Bobby Kennedy even on the ballot in

Virginia, by the way, I didn't know. I don't think so, probably not right, but well, I look, the thing about Virginia is that the after Biden won, that's when the governor of Virginia got elected, and it was before the congressional elections, and it was supposedly going to be a bell weather of this and that because it was the first you know, it was the year after. It was right after Biden won the next novembery red wave that was going to come in next. Is that what the idea

was? Next? Is that when the red wave, when that red wave was supposed to come in, they're going to react because Biden and all that, They're going to come in with the red wave. Is that what the idea was or No? In Virginia, Yeah, Well, what happened was the governor the Republicans won in the What happened was areas of the state where I live were heavily Republican, rural areas, less populate areas. They actually

had high turnout. The Trump people turned out, and there was massively low turnout in northern Virginia, where the Democrat strongholds are the real populate areas, really low turnout the and the Republicans won. So that's that's kind of what you're saying, Crownd. Things are kind of lining up the way things stand now. I don't know what effect this uh verdict has. I don't and

he's not going to jail you forget that. So I assumed. Yeah, I know, the betting odds jumped a little bit for Biden, but again, it's early, you know, it's way too early. Are people going to vote on that? I don't I don't know. Are people going to vote on it? Okay, here's the thing about that, right, And I want to play Trump's reaction to his conviction. Yeah, do that, And that's a good way to and we'll just we'll put a cap on this

one for tonight, okay, because this is important. Is this gonna matter? Remember this is May, right, it's the end of May, beginning of June. We're gonna have these debates coming up soon. And guess what, there's a lot of time up to November, a lot of time for people to forget and to get irritated with the commercials, et cetera. Right, So all that's happening, and don't forget. We have sentencing in July

after the debates. Number one, number two. The sentencing in July could be stopped, could be held off, things on appeal, et cetera. So between appeals, stuff being overturned, challenges coming in. You know, maybe the judge wasn't legitimate. They're going to investigate the jury. I'm telling you, all that stuff is gonna count. Regarding Trump's felony convictions, thirty

four counts. The media is telling you about it, because they had to come up with, you know, a cliffhanger for the end of the season of the Trump trial, right the Trump hush money trial, which wasn't even what it was. But let's hear what former President Trump had to say right after. And I bet you if you guys haven't heard this, you can predict a lot of the phrases he's about to use. But will people even remember this by the time November comes or their early voting happens in October?

Will they or will they be totally irritated with everything by then? Who knows. Let's take a look, because this is actually what's bolstering his popularity among the grievance party that he has gathered around him. So let's play Trump. Now, this was a disgrace. This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupted. It's a rigged trial and disgrace. They wouldn't give us a venue change. We were at five percent or six percent in this

district, in this area. This was a rigged, disgraceful trial that the real verdict is going to be November fifth by the people. And they know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here. You have a sore respect Da and the whole thing. We didn't do anything wrong. I'm a very innocent man, and it's okay. I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting

for our constitution. Our whole country is being rigged right now. This was done by the Biden administration in order to wound or hurt an opponent, a political opponent, and I think it's just a disgrace. And we'll keep fighting. We'll fight to the end, and we'll win because our country's gone to hell. We don't have the same country anymore. We have a divided mess

where nation had declined, serious decline. Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now from prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists, and they're taking over our country. We have a country that's in big trouble. But this is a rig decision right from day one, with a conflicted judges should have never been allowed to try this case. Never, And we will fight for our constitution. This has long from over, Thank you very much.

Okay, that is Trump's thing. He turns his back, he walks away. Reporters are yelling all kinds of questions to him, Eric Trump behind him in support, and he's at least done for now and doesn't have to return until July unless there's some other hearings in the meantime. Okay, And that's the way it was from the courthouse steps in New York City. So Mike, let me ask you a question first. I would like your opinion. Do you believe in any way this effects you know, Trump's chances for selection

in November. Do you think that this is going to have an effect, and if so, do you think it's a positive or a negative for him? In truth in his current campaign, because to me, this has been a what month long campaign commercial? They basically CNN, ran, MSNBC, Fox, from every conceivable angle for people to have agrievments, for people to get angry, for people to get engaged with this thing, which, by

the way, has nothing to do with the Constitution. It's gotten to do with this guy's right to conduct his business the way that he did, and was he proper and is he you know, would you be able to conduct

business the way this guy did. It's not about the hush money, which is also a misrepresentation from the media, But I want to know, do you think this is going to affect the selection, And do you think it's a positive or a negative for the Trumpster and the rest of his dumpster fire, that is, his supporters at this point, what do you think? I'm really not sure, honestly what impact this thing has. I really don't know. But what I'm going to watch is the poll numbers, not now.

I mean, I'll tell you this, like, there's a betting website. We've talked about it before. It's reacted by by giving Biden a swing from having a forty nine percent chance of winning to fifty three percent. It's according to how people are betting, this helps the Democrats. Okay, but

that said, what I'm going to be watching is that debate. Well, I don't care what happens during the debate, but I want to see the polls after the debate and how they move, which one gains are there, because I think by then, you know, whatever, however, things are settled by then, I think that's probably it's probably not going to change very much. And if it wasn't for this thing happening today, just the way

things stay in I think Trump Trump will be winning. But I don't have any argument of how it helps them or doesn't I see, so you don't know whether this is see isn't that crazy though? Just think about this for a minute, Mike. Normally, I mean even if I was just, you know, working at a grocery store, I could tell you exactly how felony convictions are about to affect me. Okay, regular people felony conviction. Let me tell you telling you this. I looked. I just asked to

put it in Google. And what happens if he's set sentenced, what's the sentence going to be? And basically I've read a couple of articles and you know, most likely he'd get some sort of probation, yeah, right, Or if he is sentenced to jail, he's not going to jail because he's the president. You got the Secret Service. They're gonna put him in a prison cell and guard him. Most likely, it's pretty funny he would get home confinement. Well, if he wins, then he's confined to the White

House. So it's like, I mean, someone's the comedy. If he's sentenced, it's hilarious. And it's not like we haven't had people run cities and also be congress people from prison before. That's happened, by the way. You know that, right, We've had mayors of major cities you know is due part of their mayoral you know, administration from a prison cell before,

that's happened. Okay, but but Trump is not going uh And and for those that think somehow a convicted fella can't be president, you're incorrect. Okay, I'm just letting you know. I don't think it says anything about a felony versus whatever. If he commits certain crimes while in office, he can be impeached. But we already saw how that goes. So guess what can he still be president? Yes? And I'll tell you something else.

If you're betting on Biden to win, talk about a sucker's bet. I mean, look a sucker in their money or to be parted from one any time if I had I don't have a big opinion on it, but if I was forced to make one, I would just doesn't have any impact at

all. But by November, you know, yeah, exactly. And I'll tell you another funny thing is I saw like that one of these political commentator somebody else caught up to him and tried to ask him as a journalist like Okay, if I put a gun to your head right now, right, you know this guy who's like, I'm a libertarian, I don't want any part of either one of these you know, corporate government parties. Screw this,

blah blah blah. They said, Well, if I had to put a gun to your head right now and make you vote for either Trump or Biden, which one would you do? The guy looked, with a very stern look on his face, very seriously, said I guess the gun goes off. I mean, but I'm going to tell you now, First of all, I ain't buying it. The guy's lying because most people that are going to make a selection here are going to choose one or the other.

Whether they like it or not is irrelevant. They're going to pick from one of the two menu options. Okay, it's just like going to a restaurant. Most people don't go to a restaurant and order off the menu. They just don't do it. And this is the menu, Biden or Trump? Which one you want? In some places they might put RFK Junior in there as well, but that's all it'll be. Anyway. Look, Wall Street

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happen. And here's my prediction for the future that nobody will bother to listen to because they've already tuned out because of the ads at the end, right check it out. Trump will end up doing no jail time. Now in the media, there's a bunch of these meat muppets running around screaming you could do up to four years for each felody, Oh my god, one hundred and you know, and then they're trying to do the math real quick, which is, you know, one hundred and thirty six, So one hundred

and thirty six years prison time is potentially there. They're not going to give them consecutive sentences, There's no way possible. And even if they did something stupid like that, they would suspend it, and likely it's probation and a fine if anything actually sticks, because don't forget it still hasn't been a done deal yet. Now, you or I, if we lost against the Southern District of New York or whoever, we wouldn't have the resources to fight back.

I mean, while you're sitting there and being forced to sit there during a trial, you're losing money. You can't go to work, you can't earn nothing, you don't have money, and you already gave the sister sitting next to you many, many thousands of dollars, okay, I mean I've turned around on occasion and laid down two thousand and four thousand dollars to a lawyer before, and believe me, they use it up real quick on their

hourly do this, that or the third thing. Because of course, if they make a phone call and eat an apple, it costs you three hundred bucks. Right. Anyway, you don't get results like the privileged do. And make no mistake, regardless of the image, the terrible things they say about them on certain channels and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Trump is a privileged star. Will he even pay his attorneys? Who knows? And if he does pay him, will he pay him out of his campaign

finances? Absolutely he will. He says it in the emails when he's hawking you to buy the latest Trump to him and Aton, or to buy the latest rubber ducky or made in China. It's okay. He's got plenty of cash flow because people are aching and dying to buy stuff. As a matter of fact, he had a dinner at mar a Lago just this week for a whole bunch of people that at least bought forty five I think either forty five or forty seven of his NFTs at one hundred bucks a pop. You

don't know what I'm talking about. He sold digital cards out there right, pictures of him with a lion, pictures of him standing at a podium being a superhero whatever, holding a guitar like he's a rock star, et cetera, et cetera. He sold JPEGs basically to people if you bought forty seven of them, which is, you know what, forty five hundred and ninety dollars worth or whatever. I don't know. I'm doing a quick estimate.

If you were willing to spend four grand plus to buy his pictures, he might have got to show up and have dinner with him at mar A Lago, which I understand, the food's not that good and oh, by the way, today, regardless of his statements out there and what he has to say and everything else, I did get word from somebody inside the Trump camp, because, believe it or not, I have a source near Trump when he's in Jersey and New York, and I didn't know about it until a

couple of months ago. But I didn't ask my source any questions recently. I didn't want to bother them, and they were busy and they were not able to get to me during a certain time and send me a text or anything else. And I'm not saying that that's how they communicate with me, because I'm not even gonna let you guys know how they communicate with me, because God help us if they actually got busted trying to communicate with lunatic me

and a small handful of others that they do communicate with. The inside dope from today is that Trump was pissed, and I mean pissed off big time today. He is in the how dare they mode? How dare they say these things about me? How dare they even say I was convicted and everything. It's got nothing to do with the financial price, It's got nothing to do with he's a criminal, It's got nothing to do with the constitution. It's how dare they the people want me to be president? How dare they?

That's really what that whole Trump clip boils down to. That's the reality behind the scenes, that's the shorthand of it, and that's the truth of it. He is pissed that they would even dare say the things about him that they've said in the court on TV. This is the grievance, and the vengeance is already being planned. This, according to a true believer in the Trumpster. A guy who wants to convince me that I need to join the Trump train has said that if I can switch my mind up a bit,

he might even find some new work for me. Yeah, I'm not going to say who. Not going to say that. It's a name anybody would know. It's not a famous guy. I don't know too many famous guys, that's for sure. But a guy who is working right there, right there in the mix, is telling me about a bunch of things going on behind the scenes. The delusion about Milania not being around is a delusion. She's staying off camera somehow, but she's been around. Baron's been around.

The whole nonsense about whether Baron Trump was going to be, you know, a working for the Republicans in Florida and this and that because he turned eighteen, et cetera. Whatever, that was being floated out there as an idea to see if people would really really get behind it or not. They didn't get behind it enough, so it's been scrapped. But that was an idea being floated by the Trump group of advisors. It was a real thing.

It was bs, but it wasn't being seriously planned until they got a good temperature on it, until they figured out which way the wind was blowing.

And indeed, that is how they're running this whole situation. They're figuring out what the reaction is among their most ardent supporters, and according to their internal numbers right now as we speak, support for Trump is growing based on the fact that people that are gathering to the Orange Man think that, you know what, I'm being screwed in this country and they're trying to screw Trump just the same way. And you know why, It's because we believe the

same things. Because no matter what he actually says or actually does, these people believe that Trump is on their side. They will parse out from his mixed up statements, which if you try and read them, or kind of confusing, but they parse out the parts that they like. They cherry pick the selective piece piece of it, and they decide that this guy is saying exactly what they're thinking. And that group, that contingent that portion of his

support is growing. In their internal numbers state that right now, across the country, on balance, regardless of where you are, the likelihood is that it is about a fifty seven to forty situation regarding Trump versus Biden. Biden has the forty Trump has fifty seven percent, and you're saying to yourself, well, jee chuck, what happened to the rest of the numbers there right Well, those actually belong to Bobby Kennedy Junior. And that's not factoring where

you can actually vote for him. So those numbers are a little off. But right now, the way they see it is they have almost a sixty percent vote count going their way once you factor everything straight on through the situation in the country. They're internal numbers that they're not currently sharing because it's too early to appear as though you have confidence and it's not going to help if

people think that he's got the win in hand. Then the grievance idea of the leverage of people meeting the side with him because he's being victimized by the same system that has unfairly targeted the white man in this country, that has unfairly targeted the regular people in this country, that has given in to the

immigrants and not the people that were born here in this country. That system is rigged against all of us just the same way they're going after him, and they're only going after him because he is actually on the majority side. That is the intellectual point from which they are working and they're not showing the fifty seven percent Trump poll. They're not showing any of this stuff, and

they're going to let him do his thing. You're going to see over the course of this weekend, according to what I understand, during this weekend and by Monday, Okay, look for an announcement on the third of this month, right, that is the third one. Yeah, okay, just double checking to make sure, because I was given that date. I want to make sure it was a Monday, on the third of June. You will

see that, and you'll see an announcement about his plan of vengeance. And then around his birthday, a gift is going to be given to him regarding the presidential election, A big gift, a big boost which is going to help with the people that are not on the grid, evenstrain. Okay, there's the gravy train and the grievance train, and then there's all those illegals.

That's the way they're dividing this stuff up, and that's the way they're working with it from the internals and not the people that are even talking to Trump This is the way they're talking amongst themselves from what I'm being told by somebody that I know is in close proximity to Agent Orange. And yes, I will still call him Agent Orange. As we found out DC Today website,

you know that has its home base in Russia. That's been pushing out there all kinds of fun stuff like, you know, the the president of Ukraine going out and buying cocaine and yachts for his family, you know, with American taxpayer dollars. You know that that whole propaganda outfit that's being run out of Russia that people say isn't Russian propaganda. Yeah, okay, anyway, not so successful. But don't worry. There is a part two coming.

And we're also going to see during the month of June an uptick of independent, allegedly independent groups coming out with Biden corruption stuff that'll be partially based in reality but loaded with hyperbole. Now I don't like to make these kind of predictions, but when I got a good inside source like this, I'm telling you these are what the plans are. Now. I don't know if

they'll change in the meantime, but let's test our source together. Look on June Third, for a nice, nice gift to be given to the Trump campaign. Look for an even bigger gift to be given to Trump right around his birthday, day before day after something like that, which is the middle of the month of June. Somewhere in there. He is a Gemini. By the way, for those who you keep a track of astrological stuff, I am not surprised, are you. Anyway, So those those two big

things are going to happen in the next couple of weeks. That is the plan as it stands. And the leverage of grievance all of that stuff, and internal polling might even start to leak out where they make jokes out of it, or it becomes a sidebar issue or somebody misspeaks or something like that, where they're going to say, look, we've got polling numbers that show we have the selection well in hand. But then they're going to pull back

on it and say we don't know anything because blah blah blah. And by the way, wait until this happens in the next month or two or whatever, and sentencing in July, which, by the way, they could delay the sentencing. They could say it's too close to the presidential selection that it could be literally generalized as presidential interference or selection interference, kicking the can down

the road, et cetera, et cetera. And watch as every single real penalty evaporates, and even with a conviction, it can all be tossed. All it takes is an appeal qualified judge, a mistrial declared after the fact. All of these things are in play, and you're gonna see a variety of all of that unfold. As I've said, any real consequence, whether it's a real crime or not, is irrelevant. Any real consequence for any misdeed, whether it's actually criminal or it's just kind of shady, it doesn't

matter. Trump has never paid the price for it and never will. So for those of you that you know, hate every time I go into a discussion about Trump, for those of you that go waschock so stupid that you can't see that Troup is owner said you're gonna get to claim lots of victories very very soon. But try to remember I told you that this is the way it is already prescripted. Yes, a prescription, you know, something that's loaded up and intended and set up to have a result afterwards, and

I'm gonna hear from all you guys on Friday hopefully. I love hearing from Jimmy James, but I want to hear from more than Jimmy James. Tomorrow. Maybe we'll get into some dirty dollar bets on the open mic Friday Night. Maybe we'll do that because it sounds like a hell of a lot of fun to me, and I think we all need a dirty dirty dollar bet night. Do you agree? Do you disagree? I hope you agree. But whether you disagree or not, join us tomorrow night. Call in be

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