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You. Chili Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot com and listeners like you now and now in our media. And it's just after eight pm Eastern time in that place we used to call America on the seventeenth day of May twenty twenty four, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, This the o'celli effect. And now that I did a one hour thing, you know, sort of a one hour almost an hour anyway, giving a little tribute to the late Cyril Weckt who passed away on Monday. Uh. Now

it's time for the wide open mic. And that means you can be part of the show if you're hearing us live. If not, you're catching the podcast, and well, without a time machine, you ain't calling me.

But every Friday night eight ten pm Eastern we do this. And by we who do I mean myself and my co host b Pete and you If you join three one nine five two seven five zero one six, that's three one nine five two seven five zero one six, or you can reach out to me Charles dot o'ceelly on Skype and I will be more than happy to call you into the show. But otherwise three one nine five two seven five zero one six, and I figured, uh, we do the zero WEC thing.

And I did have open lines. I put out an announcement on Facebook and Twitter, but I don't know if anybody reads my stuff. I mean, how badly in my shadow band anymore. Some guy tried to show me recently that somebody had three thousand live listeners on the Twitter X platform. I don't even believe it. It seems like nationally broadcast, you know, huge stars don't get that kind of listenership on Twitter or anywhere else anymore. Live.

So if you're hearing us live again about three minutes past the hour of eight pm Eastern, uh here on this Friar's Day, this seventeenth day of May, you're in a small club of live listeners for the Ocelli effect. And that means you could join in three one nine five two seven five zero one six. Got plenty of open lines, and I have an open mind. Maybe we'll get into news, Maybe we'll get into whatever the hell is on your mind tonight. Maybe you have interesting observations from your daily life,

whatever they may be. Let's go for it, and let's check in with my collas B Pete. How are you doing this week, man, I'm doing pretty good. A little busy, kind of hectic a work out. The weather is fully stabilized into summer. We're trying to go back and get a little spring in the air, maybe next week back in the seventies. But it's been busy. I haven't had a lot of chances to catch up on the news other than the blow up in court yesterday in Trump's trial.

And I did not even know that cirril Wick had passed away. Yeah, I hadn't heard anything about it, hadn't seen anything on any of the damn news sides I'd go too, which is strange because usually they'll list prominent obituaries like that. So I'm really surprised. Yeah, if it wasn't if it wasn't for me watching media in the Northeast, I might not have seen it. You know, Pittsburgh, so there was they did a thing on the news for him and announced his death, you know, because he was a

big figure in Pittsburgh. But but yeah, no, not not a huge amount of news coverage. I'll tell you something else weird that happened that I thought it would have got a lot more attention. Remember the guy who attacked Paul Pelosi with the hammer. Remember the whole video where they're in the underwear line. He got quite a bit of time, didn't he thirty years apparently? Uh, you know, where's the headline on this though? I mean it's look, I don't go to Fox that often, but maybe Fox News

is covering it. I don't know is anybody covering it? I saw something on CBS News today. That's the only place I've seen it. It was just a short blip that he got the thirty years. Wow. I mean, you know CNN is going gabble to gabble on Trump, right, so they don't have time for nothing else. Here's for murder in most states? Yeah, yeah, I know, But I mean attacking somebody with a hammer.

I mean I don't think you're you know, the whole supposition that if you are attacking somebody in a certain way, you meant to kill them, okay, even though you didn't succeed. I mean, if you're hitting somebody in the head with a hammer, I don't think you're looking to do minor damage. You know, just what do you think? And that's just mean most guys that get popped for murder, now, you know, they figure twenty years and then they're out after twelve, right, And it just kills

me that he got thirty out of the deal. And this is in California, No damn liberal way. Or well, see there's the other shocker, right, because most people would think liberal state, this guy's gonna get what five years in therapy? Right? Yeah, well not so much, not if you attack Nancy Pelosi's husband, I guess. But he was also supposed to be looking to kidnap her too, right, so they had to wrap that charge into it as well. Yeah, good knows. Could you imagine

kidnappen? So you'll love to listen to that when caught Nos, Now, I could not imagine getting stuck spending time with Nancy Pelosi. Weird thing. You're going all robotic. We might take a minute here and let you settle down on your uh on your signal. I don't know why that's happening. Maybe I'll actually take a break. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six guys, that's the number to call. I am going to take

a quick break here. See we can get a little better sound. I'll check my broadcast, check my feed, because God knows what's going on electronics are acting strange lately. Everything is strange, A lot of storms, a lot of problems. But join in with us three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one sixth. The Friday Night Open Mic will return after this. Do you like history? Real history that you were never taught

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did it? But here on o'chelly dot com radio network, things work out a bit better, don't they? Much better is clear and understanding about the programs. The programs much clear, getting live people into it. They really have a good conversation going much better, much better scene. I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and his ninjas and listen to the Ochelly dot com radio network. I agree, it's straight to the point straight talk and I like

that idea. Oh, this is James Corbin at corner Report dot com and you're listening to the dot com dot com radio. Well, there was a super early commercial break there, but I think we got me. Pete sounds straightened out now, so it's all good and now I can hear what he

has to say. Now. You were saying before we went to that unscheduled break that, uh, you know, you found it weird that there wasn't something that came up in your newspeed that Cyril Weck passed away at ninety three years of age this week, So you know, what where do you want to follow on from there? Well, you know, I'm just I was gonna ask you how made his owners before JFK, before he ever got involved in this stuff. I'm just curious how much how much influence do you think

he had on the whole JFK debate? Oh? Huge, because you know, look, yeah, like you said, he was already like a young doctor pretty much. I mean he had already gone bald, but you know, the dark hair was still there, the ring around the head kind of thing. In the sixties, and he was one of the first guys to go out there and say, look, I'm a doctor. I know how this stuff works. I do autopsies, and something's wrong here. When you

know, some stuff came out. But again, as I stated during the tribute there, he didn't get a chance to go into the National Archives till seventy two, and Garrison was calling on him to go down and you know, testify at the Shaw trial. So I would say, yeah, I mean he was an early influenced CBS. If you look back at the UH, I think it was either three or four nights in sixty seven or sixty eight there when CBS did there, you know, we're going to study the

Warrant Commission ourselves deal. I don't know if you ever saw that program all the way through, but well, he was invited to that, and I'm thinking, I know there was some black and white footage of him before that, and like I said, you know the Shaw Trial, so I mean

he was around a lot. And then HSCA he's part of the medical panel right, clearly not on the same side as Boden and all that, and even that clip I played from the fortieth anniversary presentation at Duquane in two thousand and three, you know, Michael Bodney invited there, He invited Arlen Spector that weekend, you know, for the fortieth anniversary, people that you know clearly stood on the other side of the issue, right, And I don't

know, he definitely was part of the debate. I think that nobody would have been asking in general out there, other authors, other people that were doing programs on it, documentaryes, what happened to Kennedy's brain, except that

Cyril rec ran around all over the place saying, where's Kennedy's brain? It's lost, you know, And there were people that said, oh, look, it's a very simple explanation and this, and then I kind of settle on that myself, even but the fact that he was asking that question, the fact that he participated in this stuff, and people might not remember in the pre internet age, when you know, these guys had to travel around

to do these documentaries and news specials and whatever on the case, almost always they would go and find Cyril. So he was almost always part of the conversation from the men who kill Kennedy to you know, these smaller programs that got forgotten later, the half hour news specials, all that stuff. I

mean, they almost always sought out zerril Weck. Even Bugliosi's mock trial, if you remember that whole mock trial, he calls him up as a witness, or maybe Spence called him as a witness, but either way, you know, Bugliosi is a little rough on him, but Boogliosi was kind of a jerk. And then the two of them did a couple of famous radio debates between them. It was really interesting. You know, he had been part of this case though for decades, not not just like popping up a

couple of places or writing a couple of books. Uh. Now, you know what always amazed me though, if the doctors that that got involved in this and given their opinion on stuff when what they had an autops of report and some doctor drawings and some doctor X rays. But you know, how could you even come up with any kind of conclusion medically as to what was going on when there's no damn info out there to really study. I mean, it's all been muddied so much. You know, you talk about his

brain being you know, the brains is missing. It's that can't be found well from what I understand just from reading witness statements and things, like that, and there want a whole lot of brain left, you know, so what could you tell other than a devastating head woond from a brain that's been turned into putting. It just amazes me the amount of discussion that has been generated by so little evidence. You say that about how there's not much of

the brain left. But here's the problem. When he goes in seventy two and looks in the archives, there is a photograph of a brain which everybody who I've ever spoken to that's seen it goes, I don't even know how there's this much of the brain left. Plus they waited and the weight of the brain was heavier than a full brain that's undisturbed, usually in a full grown adult male, you know. And some people might say, well it

took on extra fluid whatever else. But the pictures that exist at the National Archives, which still the public has not seen, do not show a brain that's missing a huge amount. It's like, it's not missing that much.

And you know, when you have this explanation and the Suppruterer film out there, and then you go, look what they're telling us happen, and what we see in the Zubruder film doesn't make sense, and what they're reporting from their written reports don't make sense from a real world perspective when it comes to, you know, us having to do these kinds of examinations, here's what you would assume the evidence to be. I think that's the way Cyril started.

And then later on, you know, like I said, the Zubruter film makes its way out there, he gets to the International Archives, the bootleg set gets out there. I mean, you get a lot of looks at this stuff, and as time goes on, more and more what happens it doesn't match the storyline, right, Well, this isn't. And that's

what gives me about the National Archives. I mean, anybody that had access to go into the Archives and could go in and look at this stuff, I mean, you know, good and well, they had a set. This is what we're going to show people. They had a set amount of exhibits or documents or whatever. That's what they're going to show people. And there's no way in hell that what they put together as their showpieces matched what actually happened. I mean, the government basically went out of their way to

muddle everything involved in this. It just amazes me the amount of discussion that comes up on what basically is so little evidence. I wouldn't trust the National Archives to show me anything and say that that's legit, that's the document that was generated, or this is the medical evidence that we have. These are the photographs. I wouldn't trust them to show me the real thing because I

don't think that. I think they've got to set up show file. This is what we're going to give people, which in no way reflects what actually happened. And I think they do it on purpose, just to keep things muddled up. Yeah, but see, may be wrong, but it seems to me that that's what's happening. Your government agencies are putting false information out there to continue a discussion that nobody's going to ever be able to agree upon.

And it's all by this well see, And that's the weird thing, because the battle for many years was this, A guy like Weck says, look, the evidence doesn't match, and then you get somebody else like John Latimer or some of these other people that were allowed to go in there and examine this stuff, and they go, now, you see, I got to look at all forty of the photographs, you know, like the fox set is only what ten photographs all together, but there's like forty of them

in existence at the National Archives, right, and you have to get the special permission from the Kennedy family and all that. But they go they look at this evidence, or they show the doctors, you know, like Nova got the special permission if you remember, in nineteen eighty eight, to take the Dallas doctors in and let them spend a little time viewing the evidence privately. I don't know if you remember that show from eighty eight, remember the

Who Killed JFK in eighty eight BBS special. Yeah, well so they go in and they say, well, yeah, it kind of looks like what I saw, but not quite. You know, something's a little off, but basically okay. So they're telling us that this stuff that only a handful of people ever got to see on the one side, is not matches. This makes sense. And then you got guys like this or G. Mantic

or whoever else who got in saying no, this doesn't make sense. I mean Mantic claims that it's a forgery because there's a big white patch and the X ray because don't forget, there's not just the forty photographs or so, but there's X rays, the photographs of the brain. The brain was photographed, but again doesn't look like what anybody would expect to see, considering having a whole bunch of brain matter blown out of his head and leaking out onto

a stretcher and end. Right. So, you know, I get what you're saying. But at the same time, today you or I could walk into the National Archives. We can get in there and we can see five

million documents, but we can't look at the medical evidence still. You know, L's something I've never understood is how the Kennedy family has so much holdover given mission to see something that is basically evidence in a crime that was committed on the President of the United States, who basically is you know, it's an office held that represents the entire public. You know, how in the hell did the Kennedys get all this authority to say, no, we won't

want this, we don't want that. It just killed I mean, this whole faith. From the second after it happened, the government went in cover your ass mode, and I mean they just screwed up everything. I wouldn't trust, even the documents that are being released under this this new law. You know, they're they're throwing them out there in dribs and drabs. I don't trust anything to come out of them now, I really don't. And I don't see how people of any education could put any faith in anything that's

given to them by the government at this point. It's purposely designed to keep everybody so confused and arguing about it for the next sixty years. Well, have you ever been to the National Archives? Although I was accused by Ralph cincopying one of their dirty agents that would go out and you know, steal evidence and things like that and offer it. And I was one of the

gatekeepers for the National Archives. Oh cool? Did they pay well? Because a pizza hell out of me. I'm still waiting on the first check. All right, Well, hey let me know because I'd like to know. I'll tell you something weird. When I first started, you know, doing research, and I got into it, you could go and you could make an appointment, and you could handle Oswald's rifle. You could get them to lay out the bullets. You could see some of the exhibits, some of

the physical evidence. Even at one point, I'm told and people have taken photographs. Now, I never did this. Myself. But before I ever went, you were able actually to look at Kennedy's shirt which was there, and all kinds of other stuff. But somehow the autopsy stuff was sequestered and it was claim to be the property of the Kennedy family. Now, I've got to say that I don't know what legal precedent that's under. I've never

heard anybody question that. I think a lawsuit could be raised even to undo that, Like, how is it that this belongs to the Kennedy family. I mean, I get at a certain point they didn't want him to be an object of morbid curiosity. But the cat is out of the bag there, you know. But that's just it. The actual brain, yes, would be property of Jackie Kennedy in his spouse, right, I mean,

everything would revert to her. But the photographs and the X rays as being part of evidence in a crime, yeah, would not be property of hers. So when she passed away, I did suddenly this, you know, did everything change to the kids? Everything went to them? Okay, well they still got the brain, but any photographs and that would be evidence in a crime. I don't see how they can claim ownership of something taken by the national government on one of their employees in the crime of the century.

Yes, yeah, see, that's that's the thing. Though. At one time, the idea is that the chain of possession goes like this. At one time that stuff was given to the Kennedy family. They placed it at the National Archives under a deed of gift right, which by the way, included not just the brain and uh and and these uh, there was other stuff too, like the slides. A lot of people don't understand what those

slides are. There's literally tissue slides taken right of the wounds. Uh. So there's parts, little bits and pieces of JFK are basically sitting in a metal tray at the National Archives at one point right along with this. That's what gives me. I've never heard of any state that has performed an autopsy state that the results of that autopsy were property of the decedents families. It was property of the state they did the autopsy. It's their official files.

It's evidence in that file. I've never heard of a state giving over control of photographs and things like that to the next of kin. Try to get a copy of your medical records, and any hospital or doctor will tell you, oh, no, those are our records. And you say no, they're my records. They say no, they're our records. You're just entitled to a copy. It's going to cost you this much for age. Well,

and that's basically how it's handled. So I don't see how the federal government can suddenly just turn over everything to the Kennedy family and let them bury it. See, that's the part that kills me. Yeah, look like I said, though, like okay, and I think you would agree. The brain or the tissue slides, which literally are pieces of the man, now those things returned to the family for burial, for proper disposition. I think that's kind of the way it should be. The bloody casket and all

that reports. There's you see, there's the confusing part to me, right there is I don't know how that even came to be, because under what precedent do you turn over autopsy materials like that? When I went after my father's autopsy materials personally, right, I couldn't. They wouldn't hand them to me. They weren't gonna give them to me. And it was twenty years later and my father wasn't anybody important to anybody else. They weren't gonna give

them to me. Now I gotta look at them, But that was that was that was kind of an odd situation, and I kind of bullied my way into that, believe it or not. But uh, but but the truth is, I wasn't gonna walk out of there with those or even a copy of them. Oh no. But to see, here's what gets me. If if I got today under suspicious circumstances, the State of North Carolina did an autopsy, which they would do automatically. That doesn't become property of

my family or my heirs. The body and the tissues, the actual tissues, yes, but any photographs, X rays, things like that were done as part of the autopsy become part of that file. It's a matter of public record. Then yeah, the records could be sealed through a court action, right, but just to give somebody, oh here, I'm sorry, mister Kennedy. We know y'all are big wigs, and y'all got a lot of political poll and a bunch of lawyers that you can afford to sue us

into oblivion. So we're just going to give you all this crap. I've never understood that. See, and the other thing that you can't tell me. I've heard these explanations one hundred times from one hundred experts, right, is that there is no way in hell that somebody in the federal government didn't decide to retain the negatives, Okay, didn't decide to retain a record of

this. There is no way that that happened. But the way it's presented is what we don't know how James K. Fox got a hold of his set, okay, which makes me assume there's multiple mini sets out there, right, It's just that Fox actually sold them to somebody. Now, those were prints, they were just photos, a photo copy, but the original negatives and all that. I'm almost willing to bet that there is a retained copy somewhere that just somebody doesn't know how to find, or somebody doesn't want

to find. Well, and I'll give you an example of that. I had a researcher tell me about six years ago that they went to the archives to see the famous Altin photo, Okay, and it can't be found. M Well, the Associated placed or stolen? Well, the Associated Press, I think the Associated I think the Associated Press still has it. Yeah, the Associated Press does what was used as actual ev and hearings is missing because they wanted, you know, the famous marks. This is one another thing

that Sink was was complaining about. He actually highlighted a photo, changed the lighting, well, it changed the contrast in the photo, and it actually brought out the second mark because everybody was saying, oh, there's a check mark on it. And then there's you know, the lawyer that was interviewing, I think it was Bill Frasier, he had made there was a second mark on the photo and he referred to there's one in the white and one in the black. And when Sink altered the contrast on this photo, you

could see the second mark. And he claims that, oh no, no, no, no, because there's no two marks there. And you know, it was it was kind of a pretty hilarious matter between a few of us that here he is trying to prove something didn't app and he does the exact opposite and boom, the second mark shows up. It's a big argument,

you know, because there was two copies of the autionins. There was the copy that the Warrant Commission had, right, but there was also a copy that was sent to Oswalt's mother, and when she testified, she swore up and down that the you know, everybody thought Billy Lovelady was was Oswalt. You know, that was the theory that Oswald's right there on the front porch. Well, her mother or his mother was insisting that no, it

was another person in the photo. So they have her copy that she marked up during testimony, but the original autions photo that they've used as evidence, nobody can find. I'm sure it's there. It may been misplaced, or it could have been an instance where someone like Fetzer went in and shoved it down their pants, pulling the sandy birder and walked out with it. Who knows. It's just amazing. Yeah, that's that. You go to look

for it now can't be found. Well, that's the other weird thing is that when you look at the you know, the Dallas Archives and a couple of places, you know that a bunch of things were just disappeared as a matter of souvenirs. I mean, just like what is her name of Geneva White came up with that other backyard photo, right, and it was like, hey, guess what I got a version of this? You guys don't whites? Yeah, yeah, Geneva White. I met Roscoe White's kid that

came up, Well it was actually Roscoe's wife, Geneva had it. Yeah, and then you know, but later of course, Ricky said, oh, you know, look that that's other proof of this and that and whatever. But the thing is, Roscoe just walked out with a photo. You know, we don't need this anymore, would just take it. And I think a bunch of stuff leaked out all over the place. I mean,

people at the National Archives. What's to say there isn't you know, one of these guys who works there a while hasn't also absconded with stuff or other let's say, less than ethical researchers might have walked in there and walked out with things. I mean that that I'm certain has happened as well. You know, they walked out with originally maybe where some of the that may be where some of these copies of films and everything come from somebody on the inside

making copies and sell them out the back door. Yeah yeah, And there's the thing like, yeah, that's why to me, some people are pushing to reopen the case and somebody, you know, I think it's too far gone to that. But the least the government could do is at least follow up with their damn law. Maybe Trump will do the next time he gets in, just go ahead and put it all out there's and release every single

damn thing and let the chips fall where they may. Well, that would be nice, and that would be nice every time one of these guys is asked about it, you know, will you do it? Yeah, we'll do it, And they never do. You know, it never gets done. And still the Biden administration still dragging its feet, even though it has released some stuff. And the funny thing is they even release some stuff that

wasn't on the manifest to be released, which was funny. I don't know if you know that, but there was a whole bunch of documents that weren't even like on the scheduled list of stuff to be released, and it was like, where did this come from? You know, everybody, everybody wants to see Oswalt's tax records. I don't know what they're going to learn from Oswalt's tax records because any money that he was making from the government is not going to show up on a damn ten ninety nine. You know, That's

what kills me about this. Oh, we got to see his tax records, Well, why what is it going to show you? He's going to show his income from whatever job he supposedly legitimately had any government payments to him. We're not going to show up on a ten ninety nine as a contractor or a W two, plain and simple. I mean, that stuff doesn't happen. Oh, I've been spying from the US for twenty years. I've made over two billion dollars. Well, really, let us look at your

taxes. You think I'm going to show you two million dollars that was paid to me by the government for a spine? No, no, no, and then put it down. Oh yeah, we paid these guys, you know, six million dollars over this years to spy for us. Bull I mean, what is his tax records going to show us? To show an money from the government. That has always cracked me up, by the way,

you're no, you're right that that has always cracked me up. Where it's like, look if he was really getting I mean because the people that usually assert that are like, look, he was a government agent and this and that, and he was working off the books. If you're working off the books, right, and somebody's paying you for domestic operations that you're not supposed to be involved in in the first place. They're not going to pay you with you know, a check, and you're not going to be taking

taxes on it. It's going to be you know, cash or gold or you know, Bob Menendez style here. Oh, by the way, that happened this week too. That that's cracking me up. The the other thing. Nobody's covering the Bob Menendez corruption trial, right, the democrat is a Democrat involved. But it's hilarious because he well, he's trying to throw his wife under the bus. And now she comes out to you know this week, and oh, I have breast cancer, by the way, so they're

going to delay her separate trial. You know, I'm like wow. But meanwhile he's at least partially trying to throw her under the bus. Yeah. Good. It kills me over all these years that anybody involved in this honestly thinks that the government's going to kill them a straight story. Come on,

it's the government. Well I love the smoking gun document idea too, where it's like we're going to get this one document that's gonna and it's like, look, we need to study these things because yes, it'll give us insight and understanding into stuff. But there's not going to be a document that comes out and says, look, we the members of the Name and Organization decided to kill John F. Kennedy, and here's who we use, here's who

we paid, here's how we got people those travel arrangements. You think there's going to be a document, a single thing that comes out there and says this is how it was done. Boom in a nutshell. I mean, really do you think that? Because I think it's worthy of study, all

of it, But it doesn't that that one smoking gun idea. I mean, you know, come on, guys, and I think the only thing, even if everything was released today, I think all it's going to do is eliminate a lot of theories that have been brought up over the years so and so is involved, or so and so this so and so. That it's going to weed out a lot of stuff. But there's not one damn document out there that I think is going to point to anything that you could

pin down to somebody and say, see he was involved. Now just pick up person. If you had one person that you do was actually involved, then people that actually performed the art of journalism could start looking into who was he hanging out with, who did do business with, who was in his circle, and start going out from there. But you're not even gonna get that one document to tell you this person was definitely involved, not from the

government. Yeah. See, the interesting thing is, I mean what has been helpful is stuff like, Okay, now we know where Johnny Roselli was, you know, as opposed to people trying to put him in dealy plaza. Now we know where this guy was. You know, now we know who this guy was in contact with, because finally some of these things have

come out. But like you said, it's a lot more helpful in eliminating nonsense than it is in actually building the case, because again it's not going to be like, well, here's the one guy we know for certain was definitely except of course, you know, big huge studies on Lee Harvey Oswald, which you know, we get more and more documentation on this guys. Yeah. James Files is a good example. When he first when his name first came out, it was found that he was in a hospital because some

family member or somebody was having surgery. He wasn't even in the area. But what did he get changed him too, Oh, y'all. He put his teeth marks on a shell and left it for people to find and blah blah blah blah blah, like du we already settled this long time ago. He wasn't even in the state. He was somewhere else. He was busy, So let's just put that to the side. But no, these things,

I don't know. It's like a dustball starts out with a couple of grains, and they pick up the odd hair and the fuzz off the carpet and this, and they grow and they grow, and the next thing you know, you got a ball of dust under your bed. Where the hell did he come from? He's something they just generated over time. And that's what this whole case is a bunch of little dustballs that have grown and now people want to put value in them for informational purposes. And it's all bunk.

It's all bunked. Ninety nine percent of what you read out there on the Kennedy case is bunk. Sadly, I can't argue with you too much. I mean again, like I said, the examination of these things so far has helped us eliminate a lot of nonsense that's it. But it hasn't. It hasn't. I keep hoping, I keep hoping, But you know

it's difficult, man. And the dust bunny circumstance. I get that too, because after a while, you know, when a dust money starts to grow enough, I mean, after a while, you see a little piece of dust blow around. Okay, went under the couch, went under the bed. I'll get it next time I see it. But if you keep letting that thing grow, after a while, it's about as big as a muskrat. And then you're not sure what you're catching out of the corner of

your eye when the ceiling van grabs it. I gotta tell you it's it's just like that. Anyway. We got a call her. I have found living a house with hardwood floors, and you'll see exactly how dust buddies generate, right, and they'll travel right. I mean, you know, somebody

shuts the door real hard. All of a sudden, one goes under one couch from you know, under one couch to the other, and you think maybe you got a mouse, but no, it's a dust this house here, I'm trying to figure out where the hell all this dust is coming from. I mean I could write a move of the dust buddy that ate Chicago. I mean, I can script it just sitting here watching how this stuff

accumulates. And I know I generate a lot of dust in remodeling, but I've got a pretty damn good shot back, and I go over a lot of stuff. It doesn't help shift back in today at eight o'clock in the morning. You got dust at five o'clock at night. And I don't know where they hell it's coming from, fair enough, So anyway, three one nine, five two seven five zero one six. We got one caller on

the line, anybody else he wants to join while we're live. It's about forty minutes after the hour, after eight o'clock, yeah, Eastern, all the way up until we start the Age of Transitions at ten pm. And I think Uncle will take calls. But I don't think Aaron's gonna take him again tonight. I don't know. I didn't get the directive yet, but that's where he's going. And we did the one hour Sira wec thing. I did that by myself and played some clips from Cyril himself, because I

think that was the best way to pay tribute to him. Is to just let him speak one more time. Anyways, looks like we got I think this is Jimmy James on the line. Jimmy is that you? Yeah, it's me. Can you hear me? All right? Yeah? You sound okay, no crackle this time, So go for it. Man, what's on your mind? Well? I agree with you guys on those documents. I don't think that you're gonna solve your way out of paper sack. It's just no. But you got to agree. It does help us to eliminate

a lot of crap if you can start to place. You know, like I said, we know where Johnny Roselli was. Now you know what I mean, if he was under surveillance, and if this guy was under surveillance. I mean, the FBI is not going to cover for them to go to Dally Plaza, you know, if they're four states away, or if they're sitting in Vegas or Los Angeles or et cetera, et cetera. Right, I mean, just like the guy that they keep claiming from Georgia was

supposed to be in Dealely Plaza. Good. Yeah, they have been a godsend. I mean, no doubt about that. I mean, otherwise people with Christ still be writing books about Howard Hunt. Yeah right, where are they? Who knows? Is stay tuned, you know, toward the end of the year you'll probably see more. But yeah, no, I agree with you. And Glad, glad you're you're here in our points. You got anything else on your mind tonight or you want to talk about this some

more, It's all on you, uh BPT. I watched a video from the Nixon Library that was made about ten fifteen years ago called the Miss the Mysteries of Watergate something like that, and the guy in it was kind of a minor attorney at the time, working through Nick Son or some such thing, and interestingly he brought up he says Howard Dean was behind the layoffs. So I would assume also to miss hump hmm, I could agree with that.

I mean Dean, well, Dean was up to his neck in it until he thought they were going to come after him, and then he started squealing like a rat. And I have to agree with Gordon Lyddy on that he was a rat. He was trying to cover his own butt as soon as he thought they were tossing him under the bus. Then he said exactly I'm going out, Well, I'm going out by taking all you with me.

It's my and I don't know if they covered this, Jimmy in the in what you watched, but they had a slush fund that they were paying for the guys that went into the Watergate, covering their costs. They had quite a bit of cash to float around. I think I've read something it was over two million just for dirty tricks and and that didn't want to go on the books. And it's my understanding that that's where the money she was

found with came from. It will cover any of that. Yeah. At one point on one of the tapes, right, Dean says to him, look, I think these people are going to cost you like a million dollars over the course of a certain amount of time, and Nixon says something like, well, I know where we can get that. I mean, I don't think he actually says where they can get it from, but he says, I know where we can get that. We can get that done, and then he changes on something. The two million comes up in my mind

that that that that was a slush fund that they had readily available. I'm sure they had access to other money just through some of the backers of Nixon for certain things. But for some reason that that amount of two million to kick around with kims up and I don't know where I got it from it maybe, but I know that at one point Dean literally says, a million is what we need now. It could be that they needed more after that, or it could be that they were already through the two million, or

they were working on that two million. He was worried they were going to run out. I don't know about. You know, the buying power of a million dollars in the seventies, it's like cash. Well, that's why you could take care of a whole team with a million dollars. I mean today, could you take care of ten guys with a million dollars? Probably? Not? You know about with Biden Biden's inflaced Oh hell no, man, I mean please, you couldn't even buy Domino's pizza for her families for

a year with a million dollars probably, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, so yeah, absolutely no. Would Bidenomics forget it? I mean, what do you need? Ten million? Maybe million bucks apiece, but not no million dollars for the team. Now in nineteen seventy one or whatever. That might have worked million dollars. You know, let's see what the equivalency is. Let me look that up. If they tell you the

truth about that, which you know. That was another weird story this week about the tenth of a percent of change in the inflation, and they were like like, oh great, this is great, and then the stock market rocketed. I think today it closed out even higher, like on its ultimate high today, right based on the news that, oh the you know, the inflation is slowing down by a tenth of a percent. It went down. I don't know. I mean, you feeling that buying power coming to

you this week? I'm not not at all. Yeah, I mean, you know, did it change your price of you know, of Dave's single at Wendy's. It didn't as far as I know. You got to go ahead. But they always released these crazy figures and then they'll alter it a week two and then the newspaper I have it on page twenty five. Yeah, but if you can even find a newspaper anymore, I mean, you

know, that's the other weird thing going on. Anyways. Yeah, so here we are still trying to sort this out Watergate, though, man, a million dollars could take care of a team in nineteen seventy or seventy one one, though, I think, but you know, seventy two by then, Yeah, by the time I was born, I think a million dollars

was still quite substantial. Oh let's see, here's a CPI inflation calculator says that a million dollars in nineteen seventy one is worth about seven million, seven hundred and forty one nine and twenty five dollars in ninety three cents today. Yeah, so approaching eight million. And yeah, I can imagine that eight million dollars to take care of that team for you know, a year or

two. Yeah, maybe that might work. I mean, if you're paying legal fees off a different fund, because you know, lawyers are expensive, but just paying their basic expenses, keeping them on hold, making sure their families aren't starving while they're locked up. Yeah, you could do that with seven eight million dollars, why not? But a million back then take some research and see if Liddy ever said exactly how much he got paid for his part. Well, he was more of a true believer, I you know,

well he was a company man. Yeah, I mean, so I don't know if he would have ever revealed what he actually got or if he was even in on all the slush funds, because you know, at a certain point he was just like, I'm gonna do my time. Uh. And I don't know if you know they saw him as breaking off from the group and not you know, getting involved in the group discussions anymore. I don't know. It's an odd thing, you know. Lyddy was a unique

character, I'll tell you that for sure. Very similar to that guy on that HBO special. Yeah, he was in that CI boy. Why was he playing with CIA boys anyway? Yeah, that's a really good question. He was. He basic imol. He went to jail for conspiracy, burglory and illegal wire tapping. So I'm sure some of the some of the assets

used in what they were doing came from the CIA. Yeah. I think what happened there, Jimmy, is that you know, it's not about FBI and CIA at that point, because some of the guys that Hunt assembled are not exactly at the top of the CIA's list anymore either. These are not A listers, right, These are guys that should functionally know how to do stuff, but they're no longer you know, favorable with the agencies that they

were taught by, you know what I mean, except McCord. McCord might have still been favorable, But the rest of those guys, I think they had sort of not had a lot of steady work because they weren't as useful as they once were, And I think this was their opportunity to get back in sort of, you know, be part of the President's organization of intelligence people. So that's a separate thing from the FBI, CIA or any of those proper agencies. It was like an independent contractor kind of thing. So

why not Lyddy, Why not an FBI guy? Why not an o NI guy? Why not a CIA guy? Why not you know, these guys if they have some skills and they can still be useful and they're not directly employed by one of those agencies any longer. You know, it's sort of like Gordon Novell, who was a weird character, that guy. You know, he's constantly getting involved in all kinds of weird stuff, but nobody wanted him to be, you know, a full on agent for the CIA or

anything like that. He was fairly skilled with electronic surveillance allegedly, but you know, outside of that. And then later on he gets involved with what's the guy with the car, Oh man, the the car that's in Back to the Future, Oh, Delian DeLorean, Right, he gets involved with

DeLorean and the Independent car company. And I mean he was again another guy for hire who had some skills that were still useful well in espionage in general, but uh, you know, no longer would he be He couldn't be hired by one of the agencies, you know, like regular So the Cubans. The Cubans were kind of uh yeah, that makes sense. They they didn't have a lot to do right then, because no one would let them

mess around with at the time. Well, right, because as soon as you know, Kennedy dies and Bobby's out, Johnson doesn't give a crap anymore. So he's got no use for them. He tells the CIA, Yeah, forget all that crap, and uh, these guys are sitting out there going, well, what about our funding, what about keeping us going?

What about you know, No, we don't have anything. So you know, they were sitting there again, maybe they were partially trained, maybe they were you know, partially in the know at one point, but no longer useful to the the current operations, so you know, the unemployed contractors of the UH, of the intelligence community. Basically, right, McCord was found religion while he was in and came out a pastor or something. No, no, no, no, no, McCord was the comedy, that's right,

Charles. Yeah, he's the one. Yeah. Colson's the one who even wrote a book about becoming born again. I think after his Watergate experiences. I'll double check on that, but I'm pretty sure that's Coulson who writes about it. Yeah. Well, no, as soon as Jimmy said that, yeah, he was the comedy, I was Yeah, I realized I was wrong. It was Coulson, Charles Coulson. And it was funny what came out since then, though, you look at what went on behind the

scenes. You know, Nixon had this group of plumbers which which actually got started back during the Pentagon papers when they were real lease, that's when they came up with this little group to start plugging leaks and see what they could do to control the damage out of it. Because you know Nixon, Nixon pulled that we're going to get out of Vietnam, but he waited until second

term to start trying to put that into effect. When the Pentagon papers came out, it kind of ruined everything in that, you know that people were seeing what the government was actually you know, giving them a snow job on and it was really the first time what was it was at the Was it the Washington Post that went to court over it? And after winning their court case was able to continue publishing on the Pentagon? Yeah, yeah, they

were. They were held up in court somebody was suing them over the release of the information, and the going wait a minute, you know, we didn't steal this, This stuff was brought to us. We can publish this. And it was, you know, a landmark ruling that still is in effect today and which kind of gets me over this Julian Thessance thing. You know, he basically published stuff that came to him. They want to accuse him of being part of the party that got the stuff, and that's the

hang up on him. You know, it's suddenly, oh, Washington Post, you know, they ran this story about Watergate and and you know, we've got to see a movie out of it. All the president's men came out of the whole damn deal. Well, and then now suddenly so many years later, Assance does the same thing. Oh well, this's accuse him of being actually involved in getting the information and then we can come down on him. It just kills me the way the journalists aren't taking up for somebody

over this crap. Right. So Nixon turns around and tries to you know, pretty much squash the guy who dumped the Pentagon papers out there to begin with, right, and that's the original operation. But then, you know, but then it gets involved with the whole committee to re elect the president, right, the creep thing. And like I said, these are guys who needed something to do, and you know they had some skills. Uh again, you know, the one guy was an instructor for black bike operations

of the CIA, which packs me up forgives me. You know, people don't realize that the government, the citizens really had no idea what was going behind the scenes, and what you know, the Pentagon papers started it. Watergate kind of let them know that, you know, everything that you think your government is is not all honky dory. It opened a lot of people's

eye. Well, it took the mask off and people were able to see the government for what it was actually was, which I'm amazed that people haven't gotten more critical of what the government has been doing the past, you know,

forty years. Well, when you add that thing, yeah, see when you add that to the trouble over Vietnam and you know, the information about the Meli massacre, you know, reaching the masses and all that kind of stuff, right, I mean, it gets to a certain point where it's like, I guess Dixon wanted it all shut down, you know, shut the hell up. Stop telling the dirty laundry, whether it should be dirty or not as irrelevant, and he wanted to shut things down. And

this is the point, right. The plumbers were there to plug the leaks, and that was the thing. Stop leaking this stuff. I mean, we don't need to make it any worse. I don't want more protests against me, you know. I mean Johnson pretty much left town and with his head hanging because he didn't want to deal with this. I don't want this crap going either. I wanted to stop. And you know, you don't

give the American public more negativity to chew on. Maybe it'll stop. I think, you know, I think that's why Johnson didn't want to run. I think that's why he bowed out. He I think he knew this stuff was going to hit the fan, probably one which I figured if he went away, people would leave him alone, right And as his well it didn't. It didn't have to work for too long. He was dead not long after, right, so you know he didn't make it that long after that.

Yeah, that was the end of it. But now I concur there. But Nixon, I think felt like he could stop this, you know, put a stop to the mess that kept coming from it. But who knows. You know, it's hard to really put yourself in the mind of a guy like Richard Nixon because and still I think he was unfairly trampled on by history here. But you know that's me. What can I say. I mean his famous line that you know America thinks that their president is a

crook. Well I'm not a crook. Well yeah he was. I mean, just go ahead and be at what you are. He wasn't about to do it. But you know, Nixon got caught up in a time where things were the news. At that time, we were limited as to what we would get. You either got it in a newspaper or you got it on your three major networks at night and of course, you know, they were all controlled by the government anyway, so they're only going to let certain

things out. But yeah, Nixon was a crook. He just happened to not get his caught on everything that was going and all. But I think that's when the shade got lifted and people were finally able to see. Now, whether they wanted to accept it or not is another thing, but they were finally able to see that your government isn't always working in your best interests.

See. But by comparison, I still say that Nixon did stuff that he really didn't think he would ever have to pay a consequence for because he thought it was quite normal. I don't think he saw it as you know. And that's the thing, like when he's on the Frost interview going, well, if the president does it, it's not illegal. I really think he believed that it wasn't some justification he was pulling out of thin air.

He really thought he was entitled to do what he was doing. But anyway, well, there are certain things that if the president does it, it's not illegal. He just pushed that boundary so far that I think he thought, no matter what he did, it was not illegal. Yeah, it's just I don't know ego. Well, you're dealing with ego with these people, and Nixon sure had one. But even so he figured that, you know, look, I don't have all of the dirty laundry these other guys

had. I mean, even Eisenhower had had a mistress, right, I mean, but he didn't have anything, you know, he didn't have any of that. So he figured, look, I'm not I'm not a boozer. I'm not doing drugs. I'm not banging Marilyn Monroe. I'm not you know, with the Captain whatever her name is, that you know, the secret woman that comes in is supposedly a military aid, is actually his mistress, you know. In the case Eisenhower, none of that. I don't

do any of that crap. So what the hell am I getting my balls busted for? I don't know. That's the way I figured Nixon saw it. But anyway, let's see how you see it. In the next hour. The next segment on the Ocelli Effect Friday Night Open Mic join us three one nine. Uh, sorry about that, I got distracted for a second. There three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's three one nine five two seven five zero one six. The Ocelli Effect will continue

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now at Ocelli dot Com. I got a little mixed up there in the playback, but anyway, we are still live here about four and a half minutes after the hour of nine o'clock PM in the Eastern time zone, and we're still live taking your calls three one nine five two seven five zero one six b Pete. I didn't check in with you before I went back to live because I kind of had to jump on it. But uh, yeah, weird things happening around the old homestead over here. Well, the reason

I asked you home, I've had some semi naked news. Apparently we've got uh cool. Georgia police arrested a man who is accused of ejaculating on a stranger inside the Whole food stores. Oh Cold County, there's there's a Whole food Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, whoa hold on? Yeah? Oh seriously, seriously. When I first saw this, I thought, what how do you do that? What the hell I mean talking about taking a shot at somebody? Wasn't the Whole Foods? That's What

got me was the whole there's a whole food for you. I looked at up. The Calb County is right next to it. In fact, ten percent of Atlanta bleeds over into the Calb County it does. Okay, that's weird because I thought that was another county that that's like real recognizable, like Cobb or something like that. But anyway, the Cab is partially UH Atlanta's in Decab. Yeah, ten percent is on the eastern side. Ten percent of it falls into UH, into the Cab County. The county seat at

the Cow County is decatered. Okay, so right next to Atlanta. But when I saw this story, I was thinking, you know, Peachtree Street, it's got to be connected to Atlanta somehow. So actually, you know, ten percent of the tounty is located in this can cross this county line. But the story and this is I got some whole foods for you. All right, Hell, let's get into it. Let me read the full story here. This is carried by UH let's see the Postmillennial dot com and

reported by Katie Davis Court, who's in Seattle, Washington. Of all places, Georgia police arrested a man who's accused of ejaculating on a stranger inside a whole food store. Troy Callist twenty eight, was arrested on Monday and has been booked into the calv County Jail on artists that include sexual battery and publican decency. The incident that court at a Whole food store located at five thousand and one pe Street Boulevard near Claremont Road. The victim, doctor Sabine Lavelle,

told Chambley police that the suspect had ejaculated on her. Says, I see this gentleman walking down the aisle who's pretending to be shopping, and he's holding a basket. Hey, look kind of like a normal gentleman, late twenties, early thirties. Nothing like extra suspicious about them, Lavelle recanned. I've bent over to grab the chips, and as I was doing that, I felt something wet and warm on my back. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold hey, wait, wait, wait wait, wait,

hold on a second, because I pulled up this article. First of all, before you get into the rest of this description, let me catch my breast because it's just messed up. But also, can these people not write English? At the what is this the post millennial because look the victim, doctor Sibbie told uh Chambley police that the suspect had a jat. Okay, Lavelle recanted to Fox five. Now, when you recan't, doesn't that mean you actually pull back your story if you recan't, yes, okay. When

you recant a confession, it means oh no, I was lying. Well, yeah, if you recan't, they meant to say, or recounted maybe right, yeah, recounted yes, okay. So the first problem is these guys are not writing in proper English for sure, because she recanted the story. Okay, so she's taken it back to recant. Now, just from from the Oxford Language Dictionary, say that one no longer holds an opinion or belief, especially one considered uh heretical. Okay, so it means to pull

back a belief. So, in other words, according to that statement, she's pulling back this story. But that's not what they meant to say here now, next paragraph. Because I pulled up the article, I had to see this for myself. And there's a picture of the guy in the article too, by the way, at the Whole Foods where it's already you know pricey to go in there. Look at what else you gotta deal with? Holy crap. Anyway, I'm sorry, please continue with the article now.

But just wow, Well, I mean, the Whole Foods is known for their you know, organic products that they sell. So okay, where else would you hear something like this? I would figure this. I'll put a link to the article in the room. But look, you've been to the Piggy Wiggling near my house. I expect this kind of thing at the Piggly Wiggling near my house. You've been there, right, Hey, I am not I am not gonna let you be smirched. The name of Pigley as

a Southern institution that's known for its high quality meats and low prices. But okay, all right, pig in general is one thing. But the Pigley Wiggling near my house. Tell me that if I told you an assault like this took place at the one near my house, you'd go, yeah,

okay, I get it. I could see it, yeah, right, Or if I told you this happened at the McDonald's, which, by the way, did I ever tell you this story about the lady that lived across the street from us that like was having beef with us, and then uh,

oh, okay, real quick. What happened is when we were living in the trailer park, at one point a black family moved across the way from us and was told by somebody else in the park that we were very, very racist, and that we were a big problem for them because we were highly racist, okay, and that we were picking on their kids because we're racist. Anyways, it finally got straightened out when we wound up talking to them directly ourselves. But these people were of a certain mindset, and

I'll tell you how much of a mindset they were of. The woman was working at the circle k down here, which you've also been to, right by my house, and she went and left work to go get food for her and her kids at the McDonald's. Okay, they made her wait for French fries so long that she got pissed and shot up the McDonald's. Okay, And this she thought was reasonable, to the point of she went, now you know where the McDonald's is. That's right by my house, right

and you know where the circle k is. Now, think about this. She went with her kids shot up the McDonald's because they didn't give her her fries quick enough, then drove back ready for this to work at the circle K just down the street. And not like I'm gonna flee, I'm gonna disappear, No, I'm just I'm going back to work now. I shot up to McDonald's. I proved my point and went back to work at the

Circle K with her kids and everything. We go down to the circle K, okay, just to go get cigarettes or whatever, and they're putting her SUV up on a flatbed and taking it as evidence because she just shot up the McDonald's. Meanwhile, like I said, a couple of days before, we had a near miss, Like I was thinking she was gonna shoot up our house because they were worried that we were these big time racists picking on them for being black. Okay, I'm not kidding. This is not a

made up story. You can ask missus O about it anytime you want. But I'm just trying to tell you something here. That's the kind of neighborhood I'm in. Okay, so it would not be a surprise if this occurred at the Pigley Wiggley or the Family Dollar over here. Okay. Well, they sort of remind me the next time we go for burgers late at night to wear my kevlar vest. Well, that's why we went to the burger I think we went to Burger King, didn't we. Yeah? Yeah,

because it's in a better neighborhood. I'm not kidding. Okay, anyway, this is all right, So back to this story from me from the post millennial. Oh my god, the Whole Foods. There is a Whole Foods like on the edge of making by the way, And there's one of these other like it's a Whole Foods knockoff, sort of one of these, you know, natural grocery stores. Super expensive. I can't afford the shop there, and I imagine this one is super expensive too, which is why I'm

a little shocked at the clientele. But please continue on with this Lady's this lady Lavelle, who she did not recant her statement, even though Fox five says she recanted her statement. Yeah, please, please go please. She bet over to grab some potato chips, Yeah, she says. I bet over to grab the chips, and as I was doing that, I felt something like wet and warm on my back. So I put my hand on the small of my back and then I saw that it was like this gooey

white substance. And I turn around and I see this guy looking at me and he zips his pants up. The victim said, oh god, I don't know if I can put the on YouTube. Now. Okay, I'm not sure because of that description alone, but yeah, go ahead. Oh whoa, you know what's really funny here the next part. Go ahead. Yeah. This is the final sentence of the story. Lavelle the seat on surveillance video footage chasing the suspect out of the store. Oh my god.

And I wonder if that tell me that footage is not online somewhere. Is that on TikTok? That's gotta be on TikTok? Oh wow, I don't know. Let me let me search for videos. Here. I built something warm and went on my back and I noticed, Ah, I'd love to recant that whole visual I just got in my head. And meanwhile, there's a picture of the suspect at the top of the article when it blurred out

whole foods behind them. Oh my god, what I have to give Fox Let's see, I can't find a video, but I have to give Fox five Atlanta. Yeah, credit for the way they describe this man pleasure's self leaves bodily fluids on shopper. Police. Chamblin police say a man performed a sexual act on himself in the middle of the whole store and left his bottle fluids on a victim. I mean, and what are you gonna say to that when you go to court. I mean, I wasn't aiming for your

honor. I just well, I don't see any video for this story other than what the news has got. I guess Fox five Atlanta might have a wow, you know, footage of somebody standing out front with the microphone saying, and here we are at the whole food store where so and so was arrested. This is crazy. Yeah, somebody in the chatroom is saying, you know, anybody pulled that is looking to get themselves killed. You know, I'm sure if that lady will not alone, somebody might have tried to

shoot that guy. I guess she didn't have a gun, but she went running after him. And that's the end of the story. As well as a good thing it didn't happen to your neighbor. Oh man, she definitely she would have shot up the whole joint. I'm telling you, Yeah, they made me wait for fries and she thought she was just the funniest part about all that is she did not like understand why she was in jail afterwards either. It's like, anyway, this guy might say, you know what,

I didn't mean to hit her. I don't know. I didn't realize she was in my line of fire. See now that's not a fair Okay, there's an unfair question in the chat room. Was she hot? Maybe he couldn't help himself. That's not right. Guys. Come on, I mean, you you can't be in public and not see I mean, you see a hot girl and you can't you can't, like, you know, at least go into the bathroom to go handle yourself. Literally the hell, oh my god, I can't believe you dug up this story for naked News.

It's partially naked. It was on the news site that I look at, and they kind of cover every topic that they can find, so I was surprised. But you know, when you think about Whole Foods and some of the nut jobs that go there, I seem a fitting spot. Well she got covered anyway, Yikes, what a horrifying story like? Let me ask you a question. If this happened to you or somebody you were with, do you think that you'd have the ability to process this and react after

you? Like, I'm surprised she had the wherewithal to run after him. She's like, wait a minute, I'm wet, it's warm, it's sticky like ah, and she went and ran after him. I'm speechless. How long did the guys stand there? Like? Did he? He? Hey? Listen, I couldn't help myself. Can I get your number? You know? Again? I don't know if I should put this on YouTube? Am I gonna get in trouble? There's no telling. I'm trying to look up doctor level into cal County to see if we can find a picture of

her. But as soon as I mean, I do a search for doctor Lavell to Calb County and everything that comes up as man charged with sexual battery after a leg incident. Well. The other thing is, can you imagine wanting to talk to the TV news about this? Like I like, hey, newspeople, I'll tell you what happened. I don't know if I'd be able to talk about it. Well all right, well, I mean the WSB, Yeah, is that a station down there? I think it's a

I think that's what he called up there. What's that more expensive town. It's probably north of here, WSB. Okay, God, was just wondering. I mean, their headline on their footage on the news story is woman screams for help, chases after man who assaulted her at Whole Foods. So they're focused on the WSB TV is Yeah, it's in Atlanta station. Okay, so that yeah, that's north of Their other story is man charged with sexual battery after woman chases it down in Metro Atlanta Whole Foods. Yeah,

well that WSB might be the Sinclair station here. I wonder what kind of bond we just put under. We're gonna MSN story here. We'll see if we can find out what his bail was. I mean, I guess that's sexual assaults. Yeah, sexual batteries what they charged him with. Oh the series, well, yeah, publican decency because he had it out. You know, that's a very east forming you know, an act on himself in

public, which is yeah, that's enough for indecent exposure. Oh man least say they have security camera video of the incident, but I can't find where it's been released yet. So maybe that'll eventually come out here shortly, but another quote of her, maybe that'll come out. Come on, Come on, be Pete with the jokes, Maybe that'll eventually come out. Yeah you know so? Well yeah, well, since she was covered, she says, at first I thought someone spilled coffee on me. But then I turned

around and saw this man zip zip up his pants. With context clues, I realized what happened. Jimmy James clues. Jimmy James, context clues. What do you think of this this news story? Be Pete pound, My client is that woman was dressed scandalously inappropriately. It was a public nuisance. It was bound to happen. Wow, she was asking for it. Huh how was she dressed? Well? She she was bent over getting potato chips. Right according to her own story. This is all elaborate frame by his

enemies. Thank you, all right, fair enough, We'll put Jimmy on hold again. God, somebody else call in and comment on this place. Could you imagine being the public defender that gives assigned this case. See that's the thing. I can't imagine being the news story guy handling this or interviewing her, or her being willing to tell like she apparently gave statements I would I don't even think I would want I'd be like, ook, I ain't talking about this. Oh see, the last thing I'd want to do is

get up there and talk about something that happened like that. I mean some people, I don't know. Some people just have no no boundaries. I mean, would you really want to discuss with five news stations you know, parked outside to out? Man? Can we get a quote about the alleged ejaculation? I mean, come on, I just you're I'm like you, I'd walk away from it. And I don't want to talk to a soul. I'll see you in gord I. I seem to have a Skype message

and uh I am. I guess I'm gonna bring somebody in here. Uh. And it's a voice we have not heard from in some time. Hold on, let's see I can bring him on. Oh man, I'm almost speechless. Hold on a second here, Let's see see if I can bring them in. I want to get his comments on this as well. And uh, maybe if you guys call in three one nine five two seven five zero one six, you can talk to me about this. Let me know what you Uh, what you think. I did not expect this news story

from beat Pete at all. I did not expect it to be local Whole Foods any of it. And still I'm not sure if we can put this on YouTube or not, but I do have a skype joining a person joining us on skype, and uh yeah, so your your comments go ahead. What's happening? Yeah? How you doing exactly the news? Dude? I was sitting I'm like, oh, I got to give me a piece of this shit jacking off the Whole Foods. And right after he talked about that

crazy bitch. And when Shovin Donalds walked back to circle k out not breaks help. Yeah, she went back to work with her kids and just like, well breaks over. I can just sleeping people in this world. At Chump, I was just sitting there thinking, Okay, I read the article. He just came up. Didn't seem like he was doing anything out of the ordinary. I'm thinking, okay, so what he is like one pump Chump just was undoes himself, pulls it out because it's one good yank,

like a shotgun, and it goes off. Jobs done, and he's dipping his pants up or something like that man. That's just fucking weird. I'm curious though, his whole food's gonna do away with their small baskets because you can obscure a possible sexual assault by teaching replaced basket. Well, they better raise the chips up off the floor because she was bent over picking up a bag of chips. I mean, well, you know they do have those hand scanners in there now, right, so you can pay for everything.

Well, why don't they just reconfigure that a little bit to see if there's any like extra substances on there, and if there is, then you don't get allowed in there, you know, black light check out or black light check him? Ye deeply? Do you want to hand? Like? Sorry Holmes? And by the way, sweatpants aren't allowed in the store, so do you want to what do you do of unknown substances? We can't let you in. I mean, would you handle the scanner after after the guy?

After this guy? I won't use one to begin with, but there's a lot of people that wouldn't mind. There's a lot of stupid people just like that bitch and went back to work after shooting a McDonald's. Man. I gotta tell you, man, you know, it almost makes you think that that six foot social distancing might have been a good idea, because I doubt he could make it six feet. I mean, how close was he? That's another weird question here. Nobody asked her that right, how close

was he? That this ends up on her back she thinks she's hit with coffee. I mean, well, another thing too, is you know we're talking about distances. It can go for something disgusting to where it's like, oh, that's respect rospect. I guess you know anybody does Anybody doesn't recognize the voice, uh naughty by Nature? You can go look that up because this nature boy who is also the voice is still still o'chelly dot com. You hear his voice on there, and he's out doing his own thing.

Matter of fact, you just did a really interesting interview if you want to talk about that. But whatever you want to talk about your ear up. I want to talking about this naked news and crazy fucking people in the Call County that's not far away from my dad lives, who's are on the side of Chattahoochee. So I mean, all all the crazy people, I guess are kind of migrating a little bit north into the rich Hill country. Well they're not exactly sane down where I am either, But man, I would

not expect this at a Whole Foods freaks apparently. I guess it's something whether it's you know, handheld, well, I guess they're both hands. Yeah yeah, But you know you all are so team over there. You know this is just one dude jacking off and Whole Foods. Right, we have cities down here like the late Great San Francisco, or they just do it in the street that right, brother, you know there's there right, yeah,

exactly. Man, the Whole Foods in you know, outline suburbia of Atlanta, Well, they'll they'll give you two for one, they'll blow a load to turn around, squat and dumpload all kind of almost the same movement. Then people they got some skills and ship. Well you know again, if you're in New York City, I mean, this is not that unusual, except you get your reflexes up. You duck, you know what I'm saying. But I mean it's just, uh, it's just crazy to me

that it's like Whole Foods in Georgia. I guess they all could need to start offering free bio hazard suits. When you come in here, put on this uh put on this uh tive x suit and it just slip it up and then you can deposit it here when you leave, next to a hand sanitizer. Forget them. Don't forget to get your mask. We have to protect your mask. Get your mask. What did you think about Paul Pelosi's

attacker getting thirty years their nature boy in your home state? Yeah, well that's what happens when you have a little love core with somebody who's very doing the most powerful and corrupt people in the nation. Right, you think you're getting out of that shit light? Oh hell, and you whack the old fuck with a hammer on video in front of the cops. Yeah, you know, old timer might be doing a little bit of a legislator tier booty

duty. Well it makes you wonder now that he's pulling thirty years on this, he's gonna do a minimum fifteen before they let him out. Are we gonna hear the real story? Now? No, you'll never hear the real story. P Pete. No, he's gonna have that. You know that somebody's going to be begging to interview this guy once he's in Yeah, yeah, and then all of a sudden, you just missed their actually got shaped one not poor god, no, no, what happened. We had him

on suitside watch and someone just cap it and shape them. None of the cameras will work either, exactly. The guards just they fell asleep. Man, they're on break, brought you break. So you think he might get Epstein if he says anything, Let's just say it's happened more than once in the world. Let's just say that. Oh yeah, No, guys, guys magically hang themselves all the time, all the time, even when they don't have stuff to hang themselves with. You know, they just they find

a way shot. Right. I can't see this guy having so much info that it becomes, you know, one of on the list. No, man, I think he's just gonna find a bunch of young students have a lot of sex. You know, there's somebody for everybody, even in prison. So who knows. I'm saying, you know, he's going to be in an environment, well, he probably will be able to get what he wants. Somebody's not going to go in their interview and find out, really

what the hell he was doing there that night? What is his connection to Paul Pelosi. His connection is probably a lot deeper than one thinks, BP a little deeper. So anybody got any other naked news besides the whole foods or what. That's a pretty wild one, impossible to top, I think. I think so that that has to has to go down to the annals, not annals of naked news. And I mean that beat the first one that started off years ago, beat people that dude tweaked up breaking in houses

and swimming naked across the river escaping the cops. Man. You know what, we haven't gotten an update on that in a while. Bpete, have you been keeping track? Yeah? I checked last week. The guys still sitting in jail. Still hasn't come up on any of his court cases. He's scheduled for again this month, but it'll probably be you know, postponed

and put back off. I'm I sent a letter here not long to or an email to one of the reporters up there in the nashvill area, and they said that they, you know, when they heard that he was actually going to court, they would let me know. But Hill, that was a year ago. So I mean, this guy's not only got to have a record, for the most charges at one time. He's got to have the damn record for not even going to court on him. Well, it's

been what three years. See, I've tried to tell you guys several times that a lot of people end up sitting for a long time, you know, and it's it's not necessarily something as crazy as this guy. I knew a guy who was on a gun charge for like three years, and it was all this time. All they needed to do was take the one statement from somebody who was like, no, it's actually my gun that you know. This guy is charged with attempted I think he's charged with an attempted murder

on law enforcement officer. Oh, oh, here is They want to push this stuff in there and get the guy thrown in the slammer. But it's been I'm trying to I'll have to go back and look at the original date. But it's been several years now, let me look that up. Well, all I know is that a lot of people have this idea that you

can get out real easy. And I've known people personally that have sat for years on much less charges, you know, And it could be solved inside of a day if somebody actually does their job, you know, one way or another, whether they were guilty or not. And in some cases they are, in some cases they're not, but it doesn't matter. It's like you could just be Once you get caught up in there, you can sit a long time, you know, unless you've got a really good lawyer.

And if you're working with the public defenders, eh, you know them guys don't look so good. Oh crap, it looks like I lost my my Skype somehow I lost my connection. I'm gonna have to reconnect in a moment, guys and see what what in the hell just happened? Well, let me try and join back in, because something happened auto grand theft. I mean, he's just guy. He's got the whole myriad of charges up to it, including trying to kill a law enforcement officer. Right, I'm surprised

he hasn't been pulled in yet. Yeah, especially if he's going after law enforcements. They kind of like to make that a priority. I guess, yeah, you would think maybe so. I don't know, you know, but like I said, it just it seems not to matter what the charges are or what the personal vendetta could be. Locally, it's just sometimes people just sit and rot and rot and rot. And you know it's not because

there are multiple felons like this guy. But sometimes it's one thing. Like I said, the one guy with the gun charge killed me because he got in a car accident, and then the cops found the gun and it became this whole thing. But if there was no accident to begin with, they would have never found it. It was a simple possession problem. And yeah, three years later the guy walks out no charge, but he spent those

three years anyway, you know. I mean, it's just because it turns out somebody else owned the gun, who was in the car before and left it there. And the guy was actually telling a story like I don't know where the gun came from, and they were like, yeah, sure you don't. And they had him in there three years, so I don't know. Yeah, this was from twenty twenty one when all this started. So and it's June. So next month we're looking at three years. A weird

thing. I seem to have lost my phone lines, so I'm gonna go ahead and take a quick break here and come back. Oh crap, I did not I was not ready for this let's see what we can do here. I think I can. Yeah, I can probably bring this back around and get us get us through with the newly hooked up phone line. So that's what I'm gonna do, all right, stick around, we'll finish out the Ocelly effect here on this Friday night, Open Mica, get ready for

all right? So, last twenty minutes or so of the show, and I had a little I don't know what happened there to phone lines just disabled themselves and they were gone. So here we are back again. Uh technology technology, Yes, so Bpete is with me, Nature Boy is with me. We've lost Jimmy James on the phone, but not intentionally. So if you want to call back in or anybody else wants to call in, three one nine five two seven five zero one six, that's the number to call.

I do not know what happened to my phone lines just now, but for the next twenty minutes or so, we are live, and look at this now, I got to restart this thing too nice. Anyways, we are live and we will still be taking calls. Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six three one nine five two seven five zero one six. Not sure what happened to? The phone's there, but everything just stopped working for a few minutes. And now I've got nature Boy and be

Pete back with me. So my cost and uh skype caller nature Boy. So here we are naked news. I don't know. Maybe we broke stuff because the naked news was just too much. I don't think I'm gonna add this to the YouTube. What do you guys think? I don't know. But anyways, so back to it. You were you were talking about this, uh, this guy, the original naked news guy, and you checked up on him a week ago, and uh, anyway, so I don't

know if you're out. We're looking at uh, we're looking at three years since he first, you know, decided to swim the French Broad River and naked in the middle of the night's But looking at his charges, I think he's I think recent total is over forty because after they busted him for that, they connected him with a bunch of burglaries that had gone on Apparently he had his clothes on on those, but basically assaulted people stealing cars, trying

to run over a law enforcement officer with one of them. So he's looking at all the over forty charges most of If he's smart, he'll keep the land his trial date to stay in county before he gets sent off to the big House. Well maybe that's part of I don't know. I guess Aspho might have a better cuisine in their jail than Central Prison. Yeah, especially going in there with all those charges, he might like, where do you want to get your blooney sandwich from? Would you rather get it local or

would you rather get it from the state. Well, I know in Perry the sandwiches are not rotten when you get them. You get a decent sandwich in Perry County. But I don't know about the other jails here in Georgia or Funny, I've just thought about something. Out of all the jails that I've been in, including the military brig, I've never had a meal in jail. I've never been there long enough. Never had you, never had a baloney sandwich. No, I've never gotten the blooney sandwich or the jungle

juice that you know most people get. Damn, I'm getting short changed on this. See. I wasn't long enough to do any jungle juice or anything like that, But I got my share of sand which is if I did take a few hits off of a roach of some Mexican dirt weed while I was there, I thought that was like really special hum well and and juv. They served a lot of mac and cheese, guys, I can tell you that it was. It didn't even happen for mac and cheese, especially

after the night. So I've been out drinking all damn night. I was really hungry. I didn't even get the blooney sandwich. Damn, I feel abused. I don't know how you end up behind bars without getting a blooney sandwich at least once. I mean, that's like standard. Isn't that like everywhere? It's like can spucked to night to get a decent wrap around there. My god, at least give the man a bolooney sandwich. Well, that's beautiful. I need. Next time I get locked up, I'll just

have to ask him what time is is breakfast? What time is breakfast? Delay my release until nine am not six am. You want yourself to the stale a little bit datas and some of that powdered eggs that they serve that might have find breakfast cuisine. I also, I mean I've mess all food. So I can eat just about anything, but I feel like I've been cheated all these years. I know when you when you when you know in Jersey, when they sent you to isolation, you got bread and I guess

it was butter. I'm not sure what the substance was, but my guess is it was butter with the bread. So no bologna even, and no mac and cheese in isolation. So yeah, and cheese. No mac and cheese. That's all that messed up. Well, and they had just tons of that, like that was what they fed everybody. Like you know, there's these huge trays of mac and cheese like piled. I don't even know how they got it piled that way, like you know those metal warmer trays.

Yeah, it's like in there, but like a mountain of mac and cheese, like two three mountains of mac and cheese. That's what went on in Uh. Well, mac and cheese now, so am I that's what we got. And what can I tell you? I love mac and cheese. Well, I like good mac and cheese, you know, a cheese love stuff. I wonder if it affects people once they get out that they never want to eat it again My ex father in law was over in South Pacific for World War Two. It was a mortar platoon and I was sitting

there fixing the sandwich. One day. We have been working in the yard at his place on the lake, and I sent in there fixing the sandwich, fixing peanut butter and jelly sandwich. And I said, you know, buzz, do you want me to make you a sandwich and peanut butter? Hell no, I mean, what have you got against peanut butter? He said? We got stuck in the damn fox holes. He said. We stayed in one place for I know, three weeks, and all we had left to eat at the end of it was damn peanut butter. He says.

I swore once I got back to the US, I would never eat peanut butter again. They never did well. He probably had those like peanut butter tubes out of the m R. E s right, Yeah, this was your this is your k rations and stuff. I mean it was a it was a tin can of peanut butter. Once you opened it up,

you had to remix it because the oil had separated out of it. So, okay, see I don't have all those expence I I just I remember seeing the the m r s with the with the peanut butter, like a peanut butter tube and a jelly tube, and then there's then the crass k When I was in the service of our m R's, we didn't get the jelly tube. We just got that little package tube of what they called peanut butter, and they had what they called a cracker. Yeah, and let's

just say it wasn't that tasty. But if you're in the field, then you're young. Glad I got out. They started phasing n m rs right when I got out, and I'm glad I got out because there's no way in now like as much as we were in the field being a medic you uh, you know, ambulance. We had a M one one three personnel carrier. So well we went to the field, I'd go to my buddy down in the you know, supply, talk to the sergeant there, get me about three cases k racis throw on there, so we ate good.

It's amazing the the gourmet meals that you can make out of k rations, but those MRIs I'd never made it. I dot, I don't see how people ate those. I don't know, you know, I saw you know again, I had some of these things. They were brought to me by somebody else. But I mean there were some interesting bags of this and that and there. Uh like there was this one thing that was like a rice rice and meat dish. I don't know what that was. Uh maybe there

was no there wasn't meat. Actually there was like tomato sauce and rice and I don't know what they called it or whatever, but it was Okay. Those crackers that you're talking about, though, I remember those being stuffed into a thing. Those things were hard. Boy, I don't know, they were little thin boards. Yeah, like it really. Here was the worst though, is the dehydrated hamburger packet, the Hamburger patty. Oh boy, because no matter how much you put hot water in one of those things,

that still tastes like beef styrofoam. It was absolutely discussing the turkey that we had things like, uh, you actually had a pound cake and a can. You'd open it up. You'd take your jelly from your prior meal and your crackers. You put the jelly on the pound cake, stick it on the heating plate below where the heater vent was, and heat that damn thing up and it was good. Yeah, we had a luxury. We had tubs. We had tubs of hot water or those canisters of hot water,

and then we had our helmets. And that's how we heated up our stuff in our field. Luckily I had to do it in basic training. Once I got the permanent party, I'm like, you fucking kidding me? No, dude, no, no, no. We went to the field. That permanent party was a joke. Everyone brought their VCRs and I'm surprised there's

no barbecues out there. They wouldn't let's go that far. But you know, well, there you have it. So anyway, how we get from the Whole Foods to the k rations, I don't know, but here food food is food. Oh yeah, and don't bend over for the potato chips. Don't food clear? Make sure? Yeah, yeah, there we go to the backglass area from one. People, if you get nothing out of this when you go to the grocery store, always look over your shoulder before

you bend over to get the chips. Make sure there's nobody behind you. At the Whole Foods, I mean, wow, what you need is one of those sticks that cartman had in the pandemic special six feet in the flag get away so that someone comes up the grocery store, have a collapsable and like a baton. You can just snap that thing out there and just stay away. If they come close to you and snail them say hey, I

didn't know those old foods. Week. Last week, you know, we had a guy that come in our food line and he would he used pool noodles to build him a little arc. He had a circle around him and Spike's coming off of him with pool noodles holding it out there. It was six feet, so you know, he was in the middle of his six foot rate, his six foot circumfer. Well, I know, I guess it'd be a diameter six foot diameter. And I told him, I said,

well, you got to get three feet from people. He said, well you mean, I said, well, you're in the center, so it's three feet to the end of the pool noodle. You got to put another three feet on that. Oh, I guess I'll have to get some more pool noodles. That's the trouble when they sell them at the dollar store, right, I mean, you know people get Dollar General has him a buck apiece. Man, they're on sale some is here. There you have

it. So with the last ten minutes or so, if anybody wants to join us, we do have time, and I do have the phone lines back up. So three one nine seven, five zero one six. If not, I mean, do we do we have any other stories we want to cover BPT anything else? Well, I'm just looking down my list of stuff, I mean, other than the general mayhem that's going on around the

world. Yeah, I told you earlier before we went on air, I was reading the story in Australia, much like here with our famous Duke energy. Uh, they have a tendency to charge people that have solar panels. Australia has gone that crap crazy over solar panels, so people are put them on their homes. This lady is complaining because, and it was off of Twitter, she put her copy of her bill that showed she generated more power from her solar panels than she actually used, so the rest of it goes

on the grid. Her power bill was six hundred dollars because now the power company is charging people for excess power going on the grid between the hours of ten in the morning and three in the afternoon, which is peak time. You would think that's when they'd want that power, but to manage it, they're now charging people. So if you have solar panels, people are saying, oh, well, get batteries and save that power and then put it

on at night. If you're hooked to the grid with your solar panels, your battery system has to be hooked to the grid too, so there's no point and batteries are going to cost you about ten thousand for the typical home unit there. So you put batteries in, you have to go off the grid to be able to use batteries for yourself. And why don't these people it's crazy six hundred dollars electric bill and you generate more power than you're using.

Well, that's weird. That's how bad the government is letting them screw you. I mean, I just don't understand it. Yeah, you'd think they owe you money if you're putting power back into the grid, right, I mean the way it be in this state when when people started putting solar on their homes, they could sell their excess on the grid to duke energy and they got paid for it or they were giving credits towards their bill,

and if they generated more power than they used. They were actually making money. Well, Duke got tired of that, so they went out and started putting in their own solar farms because they were mandated a certain percent had to come from renewable sources. So they build their own solar farms, and now they're charging you to put your excess power on the grid. But my advice is, if you're going to go solar, you make sure you have enough

money to buy the battery system so that you can contain it yourself. Don't go on the grid, and don't hook to the grid. Use your own power for your sources, and not pay them a don It sounds to me like you just cut it off at a certain time of day. Just cut them out of the equation completely and figure out a way to just use what

you're getting off your panels. But no, let's see, once you on most of these systems, when you hook into the grid, you don't have control overthrowing the switch and say I'm going to use my stuff now and then late at night switch over to the commercial side. You don't have that opportunity when you get hooked to the grid. You're hooked to the grid twenty four to seven. My advice is to cut off the grid and don't connect to it and then never use their power, use your own. Just put in

a disconnect box on the line right before it gets into your panel. You can't if you go on the grid, you're on the grid twenty four to seven. You're throwing that excess power onto the system. And by law, Duke, now you could, yeah, you could do it underhanded, but somehow eventually they're going to see this. When you're switching on switching off, they have a right to come in and inspect the equipment and see if it's hooked up legally. So that's what a lot of people are doing. They're

saying the hell with the solar panels. They're just cutting them off, not even using them, and paying a lower price for their power. But again, we've got monopoly here. You've got to get every municipality, every co op, everybody gets their power from Duke Energy. So monopoly worse than AT and T. But we're not seeing the federal government break them up. Now it's bad too. And Duke is not just in North Carolina, No,

they're in eleven states. Plus there's subsidiary companies which are probably in all fifty states and twenty countries. I mean, they're worldwide now, but they hold the monopoly on eleven states on power. That's crazy, absolutely crazy. Anyway, we are getting toward the end of our time tonight though, because transitions will begin in about six minutes. So I guess I'll give you two guys

the opportunity to close it out. Nature Boy, you're on with us, so why don't you go first, and then I'll give Bepete the final word and we'll close her out. All right, Well, it was cool hanging out with you all. I just got off an interview with Erroneous method here and tuned into your show and I was like, dude, naked News. It drew me. I had to fire my system back come on here. So it's been a pleasure. If you're into anybody's interested and seeing me,

hearing me and all that. My show can be found on Rumble at Nazi by Nature with nature Boy, not He's Built any ut Eyes and Nautical Hans on podcasts. It is on the live feed of the Great Oh Chilly dot com, and it is also on the live feed for TNP, the Rumble Channel or teamp The Prisoners on Rumble and Freeworld dot So guys like what you hear, leave me at DM, hit me on Twitter if you hate what you hear, well I hate listeners. Always welcome on my show, just

spelling name right, y'all and thanks for me hang out with you. It's fun. There you go, and you guys will hear an interview I think with Jessica Rose this weekend on o'chelly dot com Radio. From the Nature Boy and Naughty by Nature again spelled naut I by nature, right yep? Any u t I Naughty by nature with Nature Boy. Had to throw on them with Nature Boy or when someone did a search on NEI there's a million naughty

by nature, so not to by nature with Nature Boy. There you go, all right, fair enough and he gave you all the places to get it. And that's the way that is. So b Pete, what is your final word for the week. Well, appreciate Jimmy and uh nature Boy for calling in another good Friday night, strange conversation. But that's the thing

about this. You never know which way it's going to go. I would ask everybody to go to a chilly dot com I'm gonnahit to donate button support your local food banks, and let's see if we can do this again next Friday. There you go, and I appreciate it. Look, it's been a weird rough time lately, so yeah, strange things happening. I got

to tell you. The least of my problems was the drains backing up in the house, right But anyway, I'm having all kinds of fun over here in the strange land called Georgia, and we're trying to pump out new material constantly, so hopefully you guys are catching that on Theocelli dot com radio network. Don't have as many outlets as some other people, but you know,

hey, it is what it is and we're doing it. So coming up next will be the Age of Transitions with Aaron Franz immediately followed my uncle at eleven pm. So I think uncle's taking calls at eleven pm Eastern. So there you have it. Anyway, no matter who you are, where you are, when you are, want you to remember, I'm merely o'celly. All of you are indeed a fact

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