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the face made for radio. It is what it is, and we got to utilize the video facility sometime real Glad to have the guests I have tonight on this Wildcard Wednesday, because we need to hear from some different voices. And look, I love a lot of the podcasters that I get to talk to, but very few of them really speak as bluntly, as bravely, as directly as my guest tonight. Okay, not naming names, uh,
but but but I love this guy, Miko House. Now. The first time I encountered him, um, he somehow ended up with a show on American Freedom Radio alongside me, and uh, I don't know how long that lasted or whatever, but out of year. It's some change. Actually it wasn't. Yeah, wow, I think actually I wouldn't say it was Walker, was it. I don't know, you know, I think I departed from Afar like shortly after you got there, which you know, Uh,
it's the thing. And look, no bad feelings with Afar. Was a great time over there, and uh, a lot of people came over. I think it was Ed Opperman to kind of introduce you into the situation over there. Maybe. Uh. And I was the guy who it doesn't like me anymore though for some reason. I don't know why he doesn't. I don't know what. I don't know why. I don't know where that came from. Either. I've always said wonderful things about it. I do so
the same way about him. I don't know. It cracks me up because you know what, a lot of people end up in little um what should we call him, microcosms, little little micro beefs with Ed from time to time. And the funny thing is everybody always expects me to get into arguments with him, and somehow I don't. And uh, it's always like, oh, I know, Chuck's gotta be arguing with it. No, I don't have the part is I've never actually argued with Ed. I don't remember
the last time we actually super disagreed or anything. I just I feel like he thinks like as I got more popular, he feels like I never gave him credit. But it's actually the contrary. I actually would give Ed credit often, like as the first person who interviewed me for a radio interview was him, who did radio, and then it was Tim Black who did my
first video interview. I'm not and Tim actually doesn't like me anymore either, And it was weird that actually, I know for a fact I had to do with just just Internet people getting popular or not being as popular as I feel they should be. And it's though, man, because it's we really do need to stay together. And at that time, especially, I was
really young. I was like when I first started all this, I was like twenty six or twenty seven, Well okay, yeah, which seems pretty like, oh, like oh, there's a lot of young guys and girls doing that, Like that wasn't the case when I first know when you first started, because look, I'm thinking that it was only a little bit before the AFR days that you had first started, because that was almost eight nine years ago, I guess now right crazy Yeah, yeah, Um, so,
come to think of it, No, there were not a lot of young guys like you doing it back then. Now everybody and their mother's got a podcast, you know something, you know something, I got a YouTube channel that was a little more rare ten years ago. Um talking about the news. Yeah, like nobody had any idea that people actually cared this much
about this type of stuff. Um. I remember Facebook Live kind of like backfire because I was supposed to be You're supposed to like show your kids like having pool parties and doing family events and like what it ended up being with a bunch of news shows. And Facebook actually was not happy about that. You could it quickly kind of you know, they quickly kind of not not really sabotage it, but they didn't help it out, and it just kind
of went by the wayside. Which is funny because now Twitter is evolving in the same way where it's open. I mean, look, we could get into talking about what's going on with Tucker Carlson and his now invasion into the old media space. Maybe we'll get there in a minute, because I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. Yeah, because again a guy who speaks
bluntly, and also as an independent media person. I know one thing, I'm not gonna get the formulated crap that I'm getting from everybody else about this Stucker Carls, that is for sure. And you even Tucker be willing and open now to go on other alternative media platforms. Kindie Russell Brand, does you know Jimmy Doore and others which acts you could overall help independent media be
discovered by people they otherwise wouldn't be seen by. See it could, But then again, I've got this other feeling about it where I'm sorry, but welcome again to some more controlled opposition. And you know, this is usually my take on these things when you see somebody coming from a very privileged position, which you know again and I'm not talking race here, I'm just talking
because everybody here's privilege. They go, you mean white privilege. No, no, no, I'm just talking about the privilege of working in the mainstream media where you've got a corporate backer. And that's a whole different world from what it is we do. Yeah, but that's true. You're gonna have an agent, you're gonna have a manager, you're gonna have a booking agent. You're gonna have a team behind you, and you have the money and facilities to market yourself in a way, plus your name brand, your name
recognition in general. But you're gonna I mean, look at Wapple with christ the Ball and Soccer. They broke off from the Hill Rising and immediately they were able to build something that you or I would never be able to do because like no matter if anything I got, I got punished, literally punished for being successful on YouTube. So any of any of the finances that I was able to build up um was was cut off because I was successful.
So therefore I would you know, it would take a miracle for me to come into money doing what I do and then being able to reinvest it a turn to something like Tyt or what Crystal and Soger have over there. That's not happening at this juncture. But so it's the same it's potential to have the same consequence with with Tucker because it's we don't really see this where you leave mainstream media and become straight independent and become especially in the way that Tucker
left to or was fired because he was leginuinely fired. Crystal and Soger weren't actually genuinely fired. They lied and claim that they were fired, so they can then flip that that aggression and that anger into like, you know, oh, we're gonna galvanize and keep behind independent media, which really just means give the millionaire Crystal Ball more money, which is a whole different thing.
But with Tucker, I'm holding out hope because just because I know people who know him personally at this point, I'm holding out hope that he knows that there's actually more money and telling the truth when you have that type of brand. It would be nice if he went that way. But I you know, again, I'm not holding my brands because look, we've already seen what happened with Bill O'Reilly. He goes out, he gets his automatic backing.
Russell brand is a new weird thing that's going on. I think I think Russell is. I think he's genuine about it, which is really strange because I never would have thought I would have associated the word genuine with Russell brand up until a couple of years ago. Right, Um, crazy would do what a bunch of mushroos would do for you, man, Sometimes the mind opens, brother, it just does you know, so I give it to
him there. But look, before we go into that, I want to talk about something else that's going on in the mainstream and all media right now, aside from Tucker. Maybe we'll have to come back to Tucker though, because you and I we might have to come to a meeting of the minds on that a little bit. But here's the thing. You made some comments earlier, I think today regarding RFK Junior, and obviously there's been a lot of attention paid recently. The mainstream is already saying, look, here's a
conspiracy theorist now gonna run for president again. Other the okay, you know, we got that all happening, and people like myself have wanted RFK Junior to get into the fray for a long time. I'm seeing a whole lot of people get behind it right away. I feel now here's where I'm actually hopeful is that this is a guy who might actually step in and try to change something. But then again, I'm already seeing strange moves. You know,
he's got his black rock people in place, whatnot. But I'm actually gonna play the audio for the audience of what it is you put out. I guess on Twitter earlier today and and go over it a little bit. It's the audio might be a little shoppy, guys. And also, I think Nicos sped up a speech by Kennedy a little bit, probably a copyright issue, right that, and and and what happened was it was like extremely difficult to find that speech anywhere on the internet. They keep deleting it.
So if I figured about sped it up, they wouldn't take it down. Yeah, maybe they won't delete it. So here it is. And like I said, I'm gonna play the audio. I know him on video right now. But you and I'll just take a pause here and take a listen to what you had to say, because I think it's number one highly relevant. Number two is going to lead us into the rest of the conversation. So let's get to it here. And like I said, this is from
Nico's Twitter feed earlier today. RFK Junior vowed that if he wins the presidency that he will release all the documents involving JFK's assassination. He even takes the step further and said that the CIA is directly responsible for the assassination of JFK. That could be because his father, Bobby Knp Senior, says that he has a gut feeling that Jeff he was assassinated by the CIA because Jeff K was trying to ring them in. In this speech by Jeff K might be
proving Bobby's point thrillers by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources in the building at by the efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. It's preparations. It's the staded, not headlined. It's defended a silence, not praised that description. Jeff K was giving silence a lot
like the CIA that we today. To add even more validity to Bobby King's claim in the book Jeff K and the Unspeakable, there's even more strong evidence that suggests the Bay of Pigs wasn't even approved by j K, but the said it was done behind his back. Trump also came out in promise to release all the Jeff K documents if he was the presidency again. Problem is he promised that last time and actually didn't hold up this problem because the FBI
and the CIA said it could be a national security concern. I wonder what concerns the CIA could have about release from documents that potentially implicate them in the assassination of a president. But the real question is why haven't all the documents didn't release? Why is everyone's so afraid to do so. Maybe the fear of releasing those documents is due to the fact that what jfk said at his
speech is accurate. There's a shadow organization running the work, and those people with the power to release those documents are scared for their lives because the CIA could offer them and no one can know about it until they say the world is allowed to Okay. So a Nico, look you, you bladed a lot into that statement, okay, and some listeners might not know how much
you loaded in there. And there's a couple of assertions. I want to I want to study with you for a moment, because you're talking about the Secret Society speeches the way it's generally referred to from Kennedy, and believe it or not, I've actually interacted with some of the people that wrote some of
those speeches for John F. Kennedy. Right there are mixed meanings and mess is about what went into that speech, what he was really relating to the public what the messaging was to the intelligence community, to our adversaries at the time. There's a lot that goes into this, And look, I'm not going to get into whether you're correct or incorrect about what it was that he
was saying in that speech, because it's wide open to interpretation. You could invest The more he listens to the full speech, it gets like he gets into the weeds, like it's a lot, well, there's a lot going on there. Now when we get into is he really describing the CIA,
I don't feel he is. I will say that when you take a look at Kennedy's opposition to the CIA, what he was planning to do, the fact that he was working against it in real time, trying to assign more duties to the d IA, and obviously the whole firing of Alan Dulls and all that stuff that went on the Bay of Pigs still a controversial topic regarding
what happened there. You pack a lot of things in there, and JFK in The Unspeakable Great book, by the way, in case there's somebody out there who needs an initiation into the Kennedy assassination, it definitely covers a whole lot of ground real fast and is well written. Jim Douglas James Douglas wrote that book some years ago, and it is one of the standout pieces for trying to educate somebody else on the topic History Lesson too. Like I feel
like that part of it everybody kind of just exclusively associated with JFK. But like, you learned a lot about what the world was really like and some of the decisions that were being made on an international level, like how they came about and why things didn't necessarily pan out for the worst, because it could have ended up a lot worse, but there were things happening behind the season, all the major players that gets discussed in that book. Yeah.
No, absolutely, And you could you could argue with some of Jim's work when it comes to this idea of the great darkness that later on engulfs others uh and whether that thing is the ubiquitous, singular kind of entity or not um. But but I leave that to the to the listener's interpretation, the reader's interpretation. Let's get into a couple of things here, though I haven't
seen a statement from RFK Junior that says that he'll definitely release documents. Put a pin in that for a second, because I want to know where you got that from, because I want to see it. I'd be happy to see it. So it was actually like in an interview recently, he said it like I got it. I got a sense to me by my producers, which is why I covered the story. Um, but I'll send it to you afterwards. Hopefully you can put it up on the video uh when
it when it goes up. But yeah, it was it because within that same interview he brought up what is what his dad said and why he believed while Bobby can believe that rfk's junior's uncle JFK was was basically because he was trying to say it was because he was trying to rein into CIA. But I do agree with you in part right, So I don't believe that that
speech was exclusively about the CIA, like I don't. I believe that there were parts of it about the CIA, but in the in the larger capacity, what he was talking about was the the shadow organization or the shadow powers that actually control the CIA. That's what I think that it was ultimately about.
But the CIA is the medium in which they use to enact whatever they're trying to to to to go through with no fair enough and look, generally speaking, I stand on the on the very same side that you do when it comes to this. It's just that I feel it's necessary to give context to all of it. Um. What I also found interesting there, though, is that you bring up the idea that you know, again, people are making this assumption that's somebody like Donald Trump is going to release the documents.
We're currently involved in lawsuits right now. They not we I'm not part of the Mary Farrell Foundation technically, but but I work with some of those guys on things, and I got to tell you that they're directly suing the Biden administration right now. And why because in twenty seventeen, the Trump administration was supposed to just do nothing, you understand, to allow a whole bunch
of documentation to be released. They were implored by the intelligence community to put a stop to it, to not allow documents to be released that were set to be released from twenty five years prior. Okay, as a result of the JFK Records Collection Act. I'm giving context not to Unico, but just to listen, Honestly, you know. And the thing is, what did the Trump administration do. They adhered to what the intelligence community wanted, which
was hold them off. It was kicked down the road and then turned over to the Biden administration. Some people argue, well, Trump would have released in the second term. Okay. Then when Biden was coming in, I was shaking my head, going, look, he ain't gonna he is not going to release these documents. Okay, should be the Yeah, just like he was gonna release Joing the signs, you know, yeah his second term or two right, yeah, right, So here's the thing, you know.
And then people said, oh, don't worry, Biden will release them. And I sat there going, guys, you don't understand this. This is not about a left right this is not about one of these guys who gets to the White House is gonna be the arbiter of truth. And what did Biden do Exactly the same thing Trump did. They didn't even adhere to the mechanisms they were supposed to to delay release. They just granted blanket delays
to the intelligence communities. Now, since then, some documents have been slowly wrenched okay, out of the you know, out into the public's hands. No news coverage about it, nothing except that there's like what three percent of the documents that haven't been released, which of course are the most important ones, and like, out of those, forty three thousand of them are partially redactedive releases. Like, well, that kind of defeat the point, doesn't
it. And the funny thing is is the fact is that even those numbers that you just cited, those are all things that the CIA put into memorandums and gave to the media, those are not even true. The actual level of documentation that could be released is still exponentially much larger than this. Oh, it's only three percent left, because there's a whole array of things that have not been collected. There's a whole array of purpose. Yes, and
so you know, there's a whole huge thing to this. And still the lawsuit is ongoing with the Biden administration right now trying to get the rest of this stuff that should have again been prepared for release more than a quarter century ago. So the people that tell me, no, Trump is the hero, No Biden's going to be a hero. No, there are no heroes. The thing is they're not the ones running the Show's say that's the more that's the moral of the story. Each other, that's the that's and people,
I wish that I could. You know, we've had this conversation literally every time we get on the show. But the things that the thing that frustrates me the most as an independent me, as independent media, as a person who like I genuinely do not believe in political parties. I don't believe
in America has a legitimate political party. I believe they have one party, and that's the corporate elders Party. And some people swear that they're unbiased, they swear they're being objective, and then they get into this who's the hero right now? I'm sure that you've seen like Elina Musk is the hero, and they're they're working back rush from the conclusion that he was supposed to be the king of free speech and he was coming to save Twitter. And I
can't I continue to say, guys, hold the hold up. He's this billionaire with literally hundreds of millions of dollars in Pentagon contracts, the only guy who has ever had a company a corporation based in China that was not required to have a Chinese partner, that was still allowed to operate during COVID unlike any other corporation in China. Like this guy is the one who's supposed to
come and save Twitter in free speech. I say, well, that's crazy because last of my check, else Jones isn't back yet, right, Like nobody from in for wards is back, like officially anyway, I know a couple of mar But you know what I'm saying again, there are big accounts
are not back. There are a lot of accounts that aren't back. Garland Nixon got banned and then the only reason that he was allowed back was because literally it broke the news that day internationally, and Musk was basically forced to allow him back. But why was he He was banned to begin with over a joke, a joke about the State Department. So like, this is
who Elon Musk is. And I'm confused at the fact that, like anyone ever thought this was going to turn out differently because who he has been has been publicly available, and because of some snazzy you know, one liner tweets or Joe Rogan interview, people think that he's like like somebody else, I don't know who he's super here other day that because they don't do research they don't go verify anything. No one does. It seems that's why we got
to go back to the Tucker Carlson issue. Okay, and bear with me a second, because part of his little bit of street cred okay, as far as the all community indie community is concerned at this point, has come from the fact that he recently made statements. One of them has to do with the CIA was involved in Kennedy's assassination. Okay, we know that he made that statement. He dropped it on his show and then it was like tonight, folks, he had nothing to back it up. He just said
it. Now. The funny part about this is that before there was a document dump okay last year, right before that, guess what happened? Or a few months back, I should say, guess what happened, the CIA briefed many members of the media ahead of time, Okay, and you wouldn't have known about it unless Jefferson Morley told everybody. But the fact is he put it out in the press conference. Hey, these people were brief Tucker
Cross and had a representative there. So he took his briefing from the CIA, laid that out along with some of his other bits and pieces of Hey, I'm a truth teller, right before he gets dismissed by Fox, and then he comes back around and now he's going to do his thing on Twitter, he says, because I'm here to tell you about the great deception of the mainstream. I'm an honest, arbiter of truth. And what we really
have here is, look, Bill O'Reilly is done. Okay, he's got his little you know, no spin news, and he's got his own little website and he's going to be in his own pointing to be real, I forgot Bill Riley was a thing. Yeah, remember that that he was though he was a big thing. He was the biggest thing at one point. But now you know, look it's over for him. Tucker's still got some
juice. Tucker's still got and now he's got some street cred among the whole slew of people that are doing independent stuff that are like, oh, Tucker is gonna come out and tell the truth because I'm x YZ what we saw before. And I keep saying, but this guy has shown you over and over again who he is on MSNBH, you can't you can't really come out. So I'm a firm believer of like ill. So I'll give him credit
for saying things that normally life is just not safe to say. Like so, for example, that story that he covered about the black socials being arrested and being accused of working with Russia to influence twenty sixteen election. At the time, prior to Glenn Greenwall covering and then obviously Tucker covering it, I have been the only one to cover that story in over a year and some change, right, only one right, And it was like a super like
random story. But that type of stuff I'm really into and that's the reason I covered it. And it had blown up and then you know, the story resurface as the indictment started coming down and Glenn obviously talked Tucker about it, and then Tucker had him on to talk about it. For me, I'm like, the fact that he actually had lennon and talk about it actually could influence, genuinely influence the outcome of that situation in a way that we
would have never seen before. The fact that Tucker was willing to run that risk because obviously the CIA doesn't doesn't really like those guys, that's that's a net positive. At the same time, I always have to remind people like Tucker isn't an idiot. Tucker knew what was right before, right, It's just that now he does know that it's more profitable to have the Jimmy Doors
on. It's more profitable to have the Glenn Green ones on because at the bare minimum they're gonna be a barometer for what the actual people on the ground one to see until your point their reality is right, Tucker can have his show and it could be a positive in the beginning, right, but he is now consumed and study the formula of the Jimmy Doors, the Glenn Greenwaltz, those who of what we say in the hood, we got it out the mud from the bottom, so to speak, and built their platform up
from the ground because it and therefore have a pulse on what the average independent, the average you know, independent conservative and independent left in a person wants to hear it and now to tap into that and ultimately do what Elon did, which is like flip the script the moment that he gets the power. And then you know, with this with this Linda Jack and Ellis Jakanelli or whatever like, with her taking over at the same time, they're about to
get ad revenue. At the same time, Tucker is about to become a big part of Twitter. Um. It seems like it is a very carefully strategized plan to funnel everybody in, like they funnel every behind the YouTube you got it, see, But that's exactly what I see. And I don't see how people don't see that it's being manipulated. It's not a fully organic Oh this guy just had a conversion, you know, he's just recently realized
that he needs to tell the truth. And I'm like, no, no, no, this is a strategy, okay, and it's a much better planned out one than we've seen with some of the others that have fallen from grace recently. In the mainstream, right, we saw Chris Pomo is now on News Nation, Right, he's got his difficulties. Don Lemon gets dismissed. Gotta tell you, I almost feel bad for Don Lemon because same day Tucker gets fired, Don Lemon gets fired and nobody cares. Nobody, No,
it was funny. He's like, damn, that's crazy. Anyway I hear about Tucker, right exactly, it was like Don Lemon got fired, Oh wow, Tucker Carlson though, Yeah, that's the way that went. So it's sort of like he lost all of his headlines, you know what I mean that he could have garnered. I mean, he couldn't even sorry to go this way. But I always called his show the show he used to do at night before they moved into the morning. I used to call
it how Racist is It? Because there was always an hour of how racist is said? No matter what the news story he was. It was Okay, now we've done this, we've done our usual political whatever, but now it's time for how racist is it? Yeahh is crazy because like I don't feel like Donal Lemon gets you like pull the black card as much as he does, because once again, you can't pull the black card that much.
But it looks like your mom does like cut your hair, bro. It looks like he's never been to the barber for real black barbershop a day in his life. There's no way that he has black friends. And then letting him walk out the house looking like that, Bro, it's not you don't got good friends. You don't got good friends. Look. I didn't want to say it, but you can. I don't play with my hair man, y'all know, like even with my dress. I still keep a good
temper taper like I don't. I don't play about that because that's how people know. Man, they know what kind of black you are. It's a thing, y'all. It's a thing. They know what kind of black you are based off your hairca And that's why no black people were up in arm. We didn't even no one even call it racist. When when when Don Leman got fired, you know, liberals be ready to call some shit racist
and then he even call a race. They're like, oh, Don Lemon got fired up, all right, Yeah, but I think that they're gonna try to do the same thing with Don Lemon, by the way I think, But I think, yeah, I do, come on like it's usually how it goes, right. They gotta have a counterbalance, So you're gonna have a Tucker. You gotta have somebody to challenge and give him the views so that they go back and forth. Given see where they gonna put him.
Because if Coromo ended up on like I said, News Nations on Twitter, like, I think he's gonna be on Twitter too. I think he's gonna get a big show on Twitter. Really. That way, you can all now throughout the entirety of the election. You get the Don Lemon says something and Tucker Carlson response, and then all the tweets and all the mentions and then all the ad revenue that comes from all the views from all that
stuff. Like it actually makes perfect sense. It's just that nobody cared and no doubt that that, like nobody watched Don Lemon, like because they like Don Lemon. They watched Don Lemon because he was on CNN at on a prime time you know, a schedule, So like that's why they watched them.
So they're gonna figure that out. Unfortunately. But dude, hey, and just in case, Elon Musk is listening because he can always pay his consulting fee to Nico House, so tell them about where your website is, Nico, so they can find you and pay you your consulting fee, because I think you just gave him the million dollar idea for this year. So please do tell them where the website is. Oh yeah, definitely. You
can find me out. You still find me on rock Finn dot com, rockfin dot com, slash Nico. You can find me on Twitter, Real Nico House, TikTok, Real nicle House, Instagram, and real nicle house, my eat business emails Niko for the people at gmail dot com and you can also follow on hotspotal Redu, breaking news, funny stuff, cool stuff, all that kind of stuff. There's general topics that we find interesting that
other people find interesting as well. And for the record, you are willing to accept the consulting fee for giving him that idea to put Tom lemon as then know he's up the consulting fee. I mean you should. I mean I'm gonna still talk shit once he gets there, but like I'm gonna accept the consultancye and he'll he'll get ad revenue from me talking shit about it,
So either way it's a win win for line. Like at the end of the day, I'm you know what what the crazy part about YouTube is, So no one has really noticed, but YouTube is dying and it's kind of
interesting. But it's almost it was almost predictable because like, if people don't feel like they can make a legitimate income off on YouTube, oh they keep producing videos and content there, and if it's especially as much as they used to, and if they don't produce, if the top the top top dogs aren't producing videos and content there, why would everybody else keep giving all their money to YouTube. So where are people getting most of their content now?
TikTok, Twitter, still uh in Instagram, And so you don't think and so you don't think that they'll be able to survive on the pop culture heat that they have over there because they got tons and tons of people that just do like revise culture. It's more popular on TikTok, it's in Instagram and
Twitter. It's it's just it's the video. So the thing about it's so it's Spotify too, because Spotify has the podcast game kind of like locked up right now right, and and there are a lot of video platforms that people go to watch like long form podcasts, and it's usually the video platform that their favorite podcasts it tells them to go to. It isn't necessarily YouTube, but YouTube they took a bunch of ad revenue, right, And people always
say, well, like they're they're catering to their advertisers. That's not true. Bro, They take the ad revenue first and then they tell us we can't get it. That's what happens. Like, if I wanted to pay YouTube to promote my product, I would pay them first, like and I could suggest what they do and what I do and don't want, but YouTube makes those decisions for them, Like, don't get it twisted. But eventually those people are going to see their numbers and probably have seeing their numbers fall
the way that we've seen our ad revenue fall. Because if no one but fucking Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, the Hill, etcetera, if they're the only ones getting AD revenue, well, how many of those companies are actually doing well on YouTube? Maybe just Fox News and that was because the sucker m so right, right, No, But that's the thing is it's
become a corporate hangout as opposed to independent media. And even the guys who were over there, you know, telling you about the latest Star Trek toys are not doing all that well anymore, right, I mean, look, The Walking Dead is not a show, and you can't because it's for kids, and so you can maybe you can't make any money off of anything that says it's even remotely about kids. That's right, that's right. I forgot
about that they did that whole thing with kids. She I got kicked off a little while ago, so I forgot, you know, the weird stuff that's starting. How might ask, So you're you're you're in the suppressed dead zone right where nobody can find you on YouTube now and yeah, basically, so, basically in the MCSC network page got taken off the out of the partnership program. They found some video like a year and a half, two years prior of them taking me off to justify it. Then when I created
a new account, they literally hunted me down. And it was the first and only video I had posted, was a debate against destiny, and they let him keep his video up of us debating, but demonetize me into me out of the partner program on that page's content, even though it's the same content, right, Yeah, his guy crazy numbers. He made a bunch of money off of it. Yeah, he made a bunch of money off of me dragging him. That's just crazy. It was. It was wild
and its funny. Here's the ironic part we part of the debate we were having was whether or not Google or Alphabet was a CIA front company. Basically that was part of that. And so that was the ironic part of the whole thing. And you know, obviously can guess what's like he was defending, so fair enough, Well, look I've dragged you through enough of my own topics now, so I turned it over to you. I mean, is there something that's on your mind that you think people are ignoring right now?
I mean I've had I've had people trying to come at me and say, look, you're ignoring a lot of things in the news, and I have to because it's a drudge at this point. I mean, all people are doing is going from what mass shooting, the mass shooting, if that, and uh and what else? Everything is built up from the twenty twenty four selection, right, so I mean what else you got? I mean, oh, you know four came out. I mean you got something good.
It's funny that you say that, because somebody asked me the other day, like, what's the hardest part about what you do? Now? I said, you know what I said. I At one point I used to be like, damn, I wish I knew what to cover a day because it's not enough content. Now I'm like, what the fuck is the point sometimes because either it's going to be censored, people aren't really ready to hear
what they need to hear. People are are, you know, kind of pushing for their camp so they don't want to hear it, or it's the same thing, like you said, it's like the twenty twenty four selection. I've already been through the process, and I can't pretend like I didn't see what I saw twenty sixteen, twenty twenty four. You know you've been through a few more processes when I gonna say how many, But you've been through a few more. You know that then I have, And so you can't
pretend like you didn't see what you saw. People ask me all the time, like, will you support Jeff Okay? I said, I will talk about the good things that he talks about, Like what do you mean support them? Would you vote for I? Sail Uh? I mean no, I'm not gonna. It's a lot of work for me to have to vote from Brazil. I'm not getting up the energy to like what what I said, first of all, um, because it's not really my choice whether or
not he gets selected. So and they're like, well, if you get a choice between Trump and the standing, I say, it doesn't matter who the fuck I want. I don't know why you keep asking me this. What is? Why are you trying to get it? Like you're trying to get a feel for what kind of person I am. Is that what it's really about? Because if you're asking me that, then I, yeah,
that's a conversation we can have. Like if I had the choice between Trump and Biden, like I would picked Trump one hundred percent definitely, Like and that's that's the contract debate we can have. But at the same time, I'm like, the problem is is that, like, realistically speaking, Multicker, it shouldn't been a choice between buying the Trump Trump shul the probably one and we would never know. We would never know. And that is a
conversation that I'm interested in having. It that no one wants to fucking have, Like no matter, Like even Tucker doesn't want to have that conversation, like not really he he talks about the The problem with Tucker and not just Tucker, but a lot of the Right is that when they talk about electric fraud, they do the same thing as the Democrats too. They don't talk about it in a way where it's like we're we're only ever the victims and
we're never the culprits. And it's like, yeah, that's why I love Georgia where I sit right now, because the beauty of it is this, It is run from top to bottom by the GOP. Right, the whole state is it really is? I don't care, they say, oh no, but in Atlanta, yeah, I know, Atlanta is a little different. Yeah, but top to bottom it's run by the GOP. Here's the problem though, about well why don't they go ahead? I mean because people are like, oh, they're gonna uncover you know, what's going on there
in Georgia. No they're not because nobody wants that scam picked nobody because it's a competition between who can steal it best, and the Republicans keep winning that competition. And that's all Republicans in Georgia care about running Georgia. Like they have all the power they could ever want in that state. Like we'll see a lot of people trying to skip office from Georgia and Georgia to the feather office for what. There's a lot of states like the Alabama, same thing.
No, it's very easy to maintain power. Is like, because people who haven't been in Georgia brough, I tell you, everything is thirty forty
five minutes the wayte Like everybody thinks Georgia is Atlanta. It is not like like my wife literally will live like her family lives in Gainesville, right, and then obviously to get to Atlanta from games about forty five minutes, but then her brother and her and his wife live in Marietta, so like you gotta go past Atlanta to get there, even though they're only about thirty forty five minutes from Atlanta. Also, like everything is very very it out and
it's easier to control politics that way. It just takes money, that's it. Oh yeah you know, oh so you know, yeah, yeah they don't, so why would they want to expose what will get them caught? And like, don't get it twisted, Like I actually so I supported Trump going to court and trying to get those audits. But I also tell people like I expected that outcome. And they're like, oh so if the Trump, if the course don't don't give him what he wants, and that must
mean he's not rosset out bullshit. That's a bullshit argument, because especially if you're a Democrat or a leftist and you don't even believe in that the courses a legitimate anyway, So there's that right, Like, I don't I'm not one of those if I got into some ship with court and I happen to come out on top. I was lucky, motherfucker. Like, that doesn't mean the courses its working. I mean, you get what I'm saying,
Like, it doesn't mean the courses and just started working with me. It means that I was lucky and I just got the right judge, or I got the luck of the draw, which is off the what happens you literally cause somebody in a good move that day. That happens far too often more
than when people want to admit. But there's the other side of who picks US attorneys, who picks federal judges their political positions, And people don't seem to understand that it's not like a DA It's not like a district judge to get into to be an appellate court judge, to be a federal judge obviously, to get to the Supreme Court. These are appointments. And we're the only country, by the way, that that's the case, interestingly enough,
which is not and it's not a coincidence. Like I'm sure you know about how like Bill Clayton fired any US attorney and federal judge that like wouldn't go along with a little DA at atf scam like that happened. Yeah, that's what took so long for a lot of people to start coming out and exposing things like because obviously Bill Clayton and George W. Bush played for the same team, right, and so then Obama, so they couldn't A lot of
people couldn't come out. And the reason that some of the stuff started getting exposed about nine eleven was actually just because Trump got into power and didn't give a fuck. Like him, he don't know who is it isn't a good judge, who isn't isn't playing for their team. He just appointing people that
you probably like the man had a damn mixer somewhere. So just by happenstance, stuff was getting exposed because well, like I don't know what they were had going on, but I'm just gonna try to do the right thing. But at the end of the day, what they were asking was for people to effectively audit elections from allegations that their next boss is cheated. Yeah, like, good luck exactly when they're supposed to be part of the opposition.
The other thing everybody forgets is let's just say, okay, you get you get somebody who's a Democrat in Georgia who's in a position of power. How are they going to get anything done if all the other GOP people around them don't want to cooperate with them, They're not. So everybody's got a play ball, and this is the way it rolls. So who cause of votes, whoever the runs the district? Like, it's not that complicated. I don't know, like we act like we don't have we haven't had jobs.
I remember that, you know, the craziest revelation I had to this day and me my brother still joke about this. Uh was like, Bro, remember when we first started working at best Buy. I was like, yeah, I was like I was seventeen or eighteen. My brother was sixteen or seventeen. I said, you know, it was the funniest part, he said, the fact that we were about to run around a bunch of adults,
but it felt like we were still in high school. Bro, exact, it feels like when I went to work, I was just working around high schoolers that were making a bunch of money and finished school already, but never actually bro, And then you realize, oh shit, that's actually adults. That is actually adults. The adults just like in a McDonald's or a best Buy or wherever. Like they're gonna lie, they're gonna cheat, They're gonna do what they can and get their way to the top. There's always
that snitch at work. There's always that the case ass at work. There's always one that sleeps around with everybody at work. Is alread that one that can be trust is gonna go above and beyond, is all going to be the one that gets taken advantage of. Like that is the dynamic of the adult world. That doesn't change because people put a cute little title by their by their name. The only thing the title changes that they get super offended
if you even suggest that they can be fallible as human beings. So I am a secretary of state, I would never Yes the fuck you would. That's how you got there. That you don't get there without possibly being susceptible to corruption. Like that's but that's the world we live in. That's all there is to it. I mean, that's just what this is why I love this. You know, I live in Brazil now, right and people ask me, do you know did I like do I like Lula or or
Bostonaro? And I'm like, well, if I had a pig, I would probably say Lula because the worst parts of Lula Bostonaro is like just as bad. So but I said, like they're like, oh, I'm glad, I said, well hold on, no, no, no, no, I said, if I had to pick, but like, get it took us a Lula doesn't have an ego, and y'all haven't really realized that. Yeah, I'm like he gets caught up with his ship because he likes
to put everything he wants to do. I don't front treat, but like when you know you're going up against the American Empire, you don't do that. You handle your business first and then you deal with the consequences. But like, I how y'all think Russia got in the position that they're in where they could literally get cut off from the entire resting world and seemingly come out
on top after that because who wasn't talking? He was just doing what he needs to do and for ten fifteen years, like buying a bunch of goals up, setting up all these back room deals. So now so now we're at this point where Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria are all about to be allies, which is crazy if you know the region and they're all gonna be probably cut up behind Russia because of just how far in advanced Russian plan
and they didn't say anything about it. That's my problem. Look, I'm like, you know how you end up in jail over dumb shit or you end up being targeted specifically because lest everybody knows your plan, And that lets me know that it's not really about helping people. For you, it's about one. It's about creating the idea that you're here to help everybody, not
necessarily doing that. Like he's more, Oh, he's okay with being a martyr, And I'm like Brazil dost heed fucking martyrs than hey leaders in power to get there. Like it's cool that you're okay with being arrested if it means you've got something done. But it's not cool. It's like you're gunning to be arrested because like it makes you look like like once again a Crasis martyrdom complex, and it makes you look like you were Oh man, if
only he didn't get arrested, he was going to do all this. No you weren't, No you weren't, because like he says, you know, he says gonna legalize we last time he said he's gonna legalize marijuana. Haven't heard a single word about it. And he's been talking a lot about what he wants to do. Right, that's that's the end. Like, not for nothing. So he one of the reasons he got elected is because he looks like most Brazilians do. Brazilians are predominant actually Brazil. Brazil has more
Africans than every other country in the world except for Nigeria. Seriously, so like I didn't know, yeah, which is insane. Yeah, Like African religions are extremely prominent here. Um, and he looks you know, he's he's he's kind of like my skin complexion. He comes from a very humble
background. And the whole thing that's like representation is supposed to be important because of the experiences that are attached set and who you keep around you, but like I pay attention to who you keep around you also, and not for nothing, but like he keeps a bunch of people who look like Bostonaro around him that even though you ran on looking and being like me and having my experiences or having experiences in somebody who's from the favelas or or a Gouda Yorka
like that for me, I know that sounds kind of crazy, but like I'm like, well, why did you run on looking like this? It's kind of Kamala. I thought the same way about come. I'm like, Kamala swears a guy, she's black, all of a sudd but that's who
she's kept around her whole career, you know what I'm saying. Like she kept a bunch of Indians around her, like literally because that's where her family was, where her mom was from, or in these white people basically her whole career and then all of a sudden, black this black and black black and black black black. That's that's a red flag for me. So I want to see this this. I want to see people get shit done, like and I'm tired of people creating heroes out of people who haven't done shit
yet. I'm so over it, man. I'm like, in Brazil, these people the reason that Brazil is starting to climb out. I had nothing to do with Lula, Like they had deals with China before Lulah. They had they were working side by side with bricks within Russia before Lula, during
Lula, but before last time. But also before Lulah like they were their currency was going to benefit from partially from the deflation or the inflation and the devaluation of the US currency before after endearing Lula Why because it has to do with who they work with internationally and that. But they need more than that. And in the States, stop fucking believing in Trump, Like, go
do something. If you want that change, go fucking do something about it instead of just bitching about the fucking culture Warris bro Chuck, I'm still got the entire of culture words, bro, Like, I cannot stand social justice warriors on the fucking with these democrats, these liberals. But like, no one wants to talk about how bad social justice warriors are on the right. Oh no they don't, No, they don't. I get the ones that
are surprised that that Stephen Crowder is like a fucking hyper abusive psychopath. Like, yeah, right, I don't. I don't understand this, you know what I'm saying. I don't. Again, when people keep showing you who they are, all right, and they take no actions, they haven't put their skin in the game before, why do you expect it? Now?
See? Now that's the other odd thing here, when when it comes to and I want I'm going back around and I'm gonna close it on this because we started with Rfka Junior, so I'm gonna finish with that, all right, because ultimately, look, you ran us around quite a bit and I love it. Nico House always always enlightening and enlightening Rod, I love it. So anytime, man that you want to sit down and do this again, we gotta. Uh. But here's the thing, going back to Ark
Junior. Though the guy has put himself in to a few situations already. Now I want to see this interview and send it to me because I want to see it. But I mean, for years he also kind of held his words back. He got about the whole thing with her hand and things
like that too. But at the same time, he could have benefited by playing the game a lot more and he didn't, so, and like to be fair like, so part of the reason I give him some leeway is because when you had everything to lose during COVID bro, he did not hold
back at all. And that's for me. I'm like, Okay, So he may be timid in some situations or some areas, and sometimes I could just be due lack of education, like that really could just be it, but like this one thing that it mattered to not just him, Like he could have lost everything, and it mattered to the world because like the world did lose a lot, and when the stakes were the highest, he was willing to make a sacrifice. And that says a lot to me. Like,
Okay, maybe we just need to educate your ass like that. I can work with that. That's what happened with Tolsy. A lot of the times people thought that she was being like obtuse or duplicit. I'm like, no, she just doesn't know any better. And I know it's crazy to believe that humans aren't perfect and don't know everything, but like that happens, so absolutely no. But I'll tell you what though, I think it's very possible that, you know, because people go at me and they go,
oh, well, what about all this environmental stuff? This is I'm like, all right, I get all that, But it could be that he's a little misinformed. What's that the Fourth Industrial Revolution stuff? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, look, it couldn't get informed about that ship to a year and a half ago, right, And it could be that he's a little misinformed about it, and you know what, I think that this is a guy who has evolved over time. It's possible. I'm not saying it's
a guarantee, but it's possible. You're looking at somebody who could be legit, who could be genuine, And I'm sorry, I haven't seen that in many, many years. Okay, somebody coming up to that with the last name like that, with the last name like that, you know, the dynasties usually, And I think that could be like one of his biggest So people talk about like so, for example, I had a problem to him having it was a daughter in law. Right, yeah, I have a
huge problem with that. I don't trust her, right I don't. But I think that one of the things that makes our case with Genuine is he so like immovably loyal to people, right Like, just like he is loyal to his positions, he is loyal to the people who have supported him. And like that was one of the biggest things with TULSI like, she would be super like loyal even if people want to m maybe we shouldn't be talking about Joe, And she was like, well, it's not Joe, it's
like it's I was really close to his son. I don't want me talking about him. It's some of my reflection of how I was. I'm like, wow, that's crazy, Like he's not even here anymore, and she's steel like that concerned about how it could look if she was to just straight up trash and bass Joe like, because for all I mean to be fair, like, from all accounts, he was far different than the you know obviously Hunter and Joe. Yeah family, which is probably why he's not here
any more. Unfortunately, let's be real like, but RFK has this thing where he's like furiously and furiously loyal to people, and loyalty stands is and hopefully, like you said, man, he's genuine. I do know that
ship. He can be wrong, but he's genuine. I saw I've seen him take somebody that was literally on their last leg during the COVID and probably a few people honestly, they were on a last leg because they were fired from their jobs, suspended, they were fighting the good fight, and he brought them on to Children's Health Defense full time and they that fed their families. So they were rewarded, uh for their fight, and a lot of
people wouldn't do that. A lot to do that. That's right. So anyway, I say stay tuned on all that, and definitely stay tuned Nico. Tell everybody one more time where they can find you. Obviously you can find him on Twitter. I mean you'll see that I follow him. Uh and uh at Real it's real Nicole House on Twitter or house. Yeah, it's real nic House, Real Nicole House. No, Biden hates black people. That's basically that's mostly what I'm known by now at this hates black people.
Bro. Yeah, I did not realize how viral that name. People randomly like message me on other platforms, Like I respond to like a basketball post on Instagram and say, hey, are you that Joe Biden has black people? Guy on Twitter? But yes, uh House on Twitter, Real nice House on t Instagram, all that stuff. I do still have my YouTube channel, and I'm actually starting a podcast here. Actually it was really posted out this week, but I'm kind of getting some like making some adjustments.
But that is going to be at least the first episode will be recorded next week, even if I don't have everything else up. I definitely plan on recording the first episode next week. Call for People podcasts going to be covering everything from politics, pop culture, mental health just it's a show to show how interconnected everything actually is and to introduce some critical thinking to topics and say that there's like binary ways of viewing everything, whether it be relationships,
raise all that stuff. Man, it's going to be controversial because its apparently that I can't avoid that. It's just how I am apparently always. It's funny because I always am, like, am I controversionally? Everybody always is like, man, It's like, it's not that your controversial, it's just like you, don't you just the way you say things. I was like, what does they even mean? I don't know what you want me to do. I'm saying what it is. Hey, you're just what You're just
who you are. You're just who you are, and that's that's what's the best. You're gonna put that podcast up on rock Fan or oh for sure? Yeah, all right. I'm strongly debating doing like an exclusive rock Fan release for like every Thursday and then on Friday releasing the podcast to everybody else there you go. So look forward on rock Fan, look forward elsewhere Real Miko House on all those platforms, and uh, you know, Shelley Effect is done for tonight, So no matter who you are, where you are,
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