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pissed off at me that I can tell. I mean, all those people abandoned me a couple of years ago, you know, they got mad at me starting in twenty seventeen. People started to abandon me because of my alleged points of view. Some people thought I was a liberal, some people thought I was a crazy radical right winger, believe it or not. And it just depends on what they selectively decided to get outraged about that I was covering on the show. I got a lot of more JFK stuff to cover.
I got a lot of more political conspiracy, got a lot of more news when it's not just a depressing slog like it's been for the past couple of weeks in the news cycle, been garbage. To my estimation, also a little surprised for some people, I guarantee you, is that the more that they show me this nonsense that Trump has fallen asleep over in New York, and as I look at the alleged evidence and the alleged charges and everything else
against him, here's the funny part. I'm feeling more and more like this has to be nothing more than a throne fight. I mean, how else do you look if you go after somebody with a charge that you know won't stick, and you insist on taking them to court, and you insist on wasting everybody's time and resources clogging up the streets and making sure that somebody can show up hupa chuk. They're keeping them from campaigning. It's a constant campaign
commercial for this guy. He's on TV twenty four to seven and people are watching him fall asleep, and they're interviewing the courtroom guys who are making sketches of Trump falling asleep in the courtroom because they got nothing else to talk about on the alleged news garbage nothing, What do you want to do? Oh? Well, anyway, I'm getting campaign commercials because I use the free versions of things, so I get stuck with him like on YouTube. And I'll
tell you the most recent one, which is amusing. A guy almost sounds like me is being called by somebody from the Biden call center on this political commercial. Cause we're already starting with the presidential selection commercials. I guess it's
about on time. We're halfway through April, right, it's past what used to be tax Day, So I guess it's time to evaluate who you're gonna you know, throw your VW down for in the BS thing they call an election in November, right, I mean, it's time to make the big decision. Which old white guy do you want to stick in there? Probably not the one that you're gonna blame for making you go broke over the past
couple of years, because I don't know anybody who isn't going broke. But anyway, Yeah, Allegedly this woman calling from a Biden call center, Hey, you're going to vote for Biden again? Right, He's making things great for legal immigrants. The lady supporting him says this, you know, blatantly, bluntly. The guy on the other end, sounding a lot like he might be from a different to Jersey than me, but still says, you know what I voted providing last time, and uh, I ain't doing it
this time. I'm voting for Trump. And it's a Trump campaign commercial run by some pack some you know, we're here to save America Incorporated or whatever the hell pack super pac. I don't know. Didn't pay attention to it that much because I'm just stuck with the repetitive nature of this thing, and because I've seen it so many times, I'm now numb. But either way, I'm getting stuck with that. And that's the only realistic campaign commercial that's
probably gonna be out there all the next year. Anyway, we need dogs or barking. All that stuff is happening. And again I invite you join me. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call to get in on the show. Do it nice and slow for you. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. Get on the line. I'll get you on the show at least once, and you can bring up anything you want or reach out to me Charles dot o'ceelly
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can just sit here and talk to be Pete. Be Pete, you're not at work this week, so welcome back to not being from parts unknown. But how you doing? Man? Oh, I'm doing good. Who was able to catch up on some much need to sleep today after this past three weeks of work. You know, it's funny it's this first spring whord spend this busy trying to transition from what you do in the wintertime on the construction
side of what you do in the summertime. But other than that, we're doing pretty good and joined beautiful southern weather enough to get out and spend the next two days working in the yard. Worked out some kinks, try to shed a little bit of weight and move my grass, but other than that, everything's looking pretty good. Now we had talked earlier about these campaign ads, and I try to avoid them at all costs. Nothing ticks me off
more than in the early morning. I'll be sitting here going, you know, reading the news and all that before going to work. It's four o'clock in the morning, and that's when they run all the PSA's that they don't want to run during prime time because people are willing to pay more money for the commercial time. So you get the same political ad every commercial break for
an hour hour and a half. It gets ridiculous. So now that our primaries in this state, we've got two districts I think that are having primary runoffs because nobody won a clear majority in the primary. So we've got a functal Republicans involved. A couple of carpetbaggers have moved down to this state from another state after their long employment in d C was over and figure they can buy themselves a seat somewhere. For some reason, we're notorious for that people
coming in and carpetbagging, kind of like Hillary up in New York. Okay, lot, I just have a question. Were your carpetbaggers originally from North Carolina or no, no, no, these aren't people that came back after being gone for years. These are people that were living in you know, outside of d C in Virginia as contractors for years and then decide to move to a district where it's cheaper than Virginia and that people might not be as
sophisticated as they are around d C in Virginia. And you know, they say the right keywords when it comes primary time and suddenly they're the world's best conservative. You know, they fight for this and fight for that, and the same old story. Okay, so they they have tendessee to drift here because they think they can win on the Republican side of things. You know, the Democrats are entrunched so deep that an outsider really can't come in and
pull a district out from somebody that's been living here their whole life. But it's easy on the Republican side. Well. The other thing is, look at this point, if you have a fresh name in a Republican slot, they couldn't have possibly already screwed things up. So it's a fresh name, and if they've got the right phrases, they can look more legitimate than maybe somebody who has been a career politician. Because somebody was successful ten years ago.
Is not saying exactly the same thing from ten years ago now, right, So they wouldn't be consistent to what the ten years ago conservative was. And again the financial consideration the migration due to the financial situation, if you will, I mean really literally, the reason why I moved south is that I couldn't afford to live up north anymore. Maybe they did it for that reason. I mean, they're not making the same you know, ends ends,
trying to meet the ends decision that I am. But they're saying to themselves, Hey, you know, how can I make my one hundred one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand dollars a year go further? Right? Uh? Is I can live in North Carolina? I could buy a whole house in a year with my paycheck. Why don't I go down there? But has it? Haven't prices gone up in North Carolina in the past couple of years or is that my imagination? Or is it just drifting along with everybody
else and the inflation migration? It's going up, I mean thousand prices here through the roof rent has gone up, just like everywhere since COVID. It's just cheaper, you know, you make your big money working in DC as a government contractor, and then you you know, you take your millions when you sell the business that they help you set up back to a bunch of other government contractors and then come down here to you know, make North Carolina
better. It's amazing. We've got this one, this loric book out. It's running. I think it's first district not sure. Uh, contractor for years in DC after being in the military, and she sells a business that they helped set up for operations over in Uh. Yeah, take take up to take a pause, b B B BP, take a pause BP house for Conservative. Yeah, take take a pause for a minute. Take a
pause for a minute because you're going robotic. Mute yourself for a minute, and let's see if we can't build up your compression because you're you're breaking up. And uh, I'll ask you a couple of questions and I'll do it slow so it gives it time to build up your compression and maybe you'll sound
better in a moment. Because I want to be clear about this. You know, in my mind, I'm thinking that some of these people might be on the semi right retirement kind of uh, you know, realistically, they could probably live off of whatever it is they're selling off that you're talking about there. I imagine you're saying there was an insider DC business that they probably you know, basically gained because of their great access because they were living up
there, and then they take it down south. Now they've taken their nest egg money because they offload whatever little business or business concern they had and they go down there. Now, some people were going from up north and semi retiring, not politicians and not political people, but I mean various types of
people. About twenty years ago or so, it was popular to go to South Carolina more often, but North Carolina as well, from say the Tri state area, or from Pennsylvania or even better spots in Ohio, stuff like that, and they would go down and semi retire, so that, you know, realistically they had enough money to live on. But now they could go out and run for office or do whatever, and they're not pressured with the I need a paycheck every week or every month because they've got a nest
egg. And I'm wondering if it's that kind of thing that then they turn around and set up politically, or is it primarily a political strategyum where they know they're going to make money somehow, So either they're going to get in office, or they're going to be part of somebody's crew, or they're going to be appointed lieutenant governor or something like this and become, you know,
part of the system. And they've already got an inside track. So is it more about the inside track for the politics or is it about the you know, I can semi retire because I have a nest egg. Which one of these types of people are you talking about that are migrating? And again, go back over this politician. I think it was a lady's name. You said it was a little little broken, little robotic, and tell us about her again, But please, which one of these two things? Is
it be Pete? Well it's combination one. Yes, sheever live here. You get somebody who's living outside at d C in Virginia. They're paying through the nose. I don't care whether they're renting, whether they're buying. It's just expensive to live there. You have more I think is what was that? I read to more millionaires in the DC area than anywhere else the United States is surrounding the area of DZ in Maryland, Virginia. But they come
down here because it's cheap, and it's cheap to run for politics. You find a district where they've had people that have been fighting for seats three or four elections, worst candidates in the world. You know, normal everyday people who think now they can go to Washington and solve problems because they're conservative. They're a fighter, you know the keywords. And you move down here, you pay taxes here as a homeowner for two years, and then suddenly you're
going to make things better for North Carolina. You know, not a damn think about North Carolina. You know, I've lived here, it's only been here two years, and most of your time is spent up back up in Virginia in your other house. You know that kind of thing. They come down here to buy acreage. I've got a mini farm. I'm a farmer now, you know. Yeah, I bought eighty eight slash July and now I've got a couple pear trees. I'm a farmer. And oh, it's
a charade more than anything. Well, some of those guys straight up carpetbackers. Yeah, some of those guys down there, specific Wait a minute, am I I'm muted, all right. Some of these guys, specifically down there, had hog farms, and we're doing like a leasing thing with hog farms for a bit where they weren't actually doing the work, but they could say that they owned a hog farm and meanwhile somebody else was leasing the land. I know that was going on about ten years ago when I was there,
and I don't know if that's still a thing. Is that still a thing with the hog farms? Well, now no, we've got industrial hog farms now, you know, like Smithfield Foods and companies like that that have these mega farms where you know, they might have three hundred hog houses in a certain area and they've cornered the market. It's like Tyson and chicken houses or butterball and turkey houses. You know, it's all become pretty industrialized at
this point. No, these are people that come down and buy eighty to one hundred and twenty acres you know of farm land, and they've you know, retired, they've got their money, they're invested heavily in their stocks, they can live off their salary, and now they want to come down and give to the community. So it's a little okay, have I given up
some of that money that you got out of the community. Okay. So it's a little combination of the two things that I described, where you got the next egg guy who's going down there and can retire, but you know, is going to do something extra, and somebody who has got a political strategy in hand and that's their primary motivate. It's actually a little bit of
both, is what you're telling me that is emerging. But I mean, if you're running for a Senate seat in the state of North Carolina and you haven't lived here more than two and a half years, I go down the road. You know, you don't know a damn thing about this place on what this state needs. You know, just shut up up and go back and being retired, or go back to Virginia where you lived for the past
thirty five forty years and try to run up there. Okay, but don't come down here with your Virginia polity, with your DC politics and claim to be a Republican when you were working for Bill Clinton thirty years ago before you went in the military. Know that kind of thing. Well, the opposite argument ridiculous. Yeah, the opposite argument though, just as and I'm just
positing this, not even trying to argue with you. But the opposite argument could be, if the people that are in politics there are so bad that they could be easily replaced by a carpetbagger, maybe the carpetbagger will do a better job just by default, you know. I mean, it's sort of like when you run against a dead guy and you just barely beat him. I mean, at the very least they have a live candidate that can go
into the office. It's not you know, granted it's a low bar, but I mean, is it a low bar situation where you have politicians who have screwed things up so bad that really anything would be better or is it just them? I'm trying to take advantage of it because it's more economical to run there. Well, it's more economical to run here. But once you get elected here, whether it's for a state office or federal office, you're
pretty much the incumbent from then on and you're there. I mean, you really got it to have an upstart come and kick you out if you're an incumbent from this state, and the only reason this person wants to run is so they can get into Washington and start making their stock deals off inside our information and get richer. They don't give a damn about North Carolina. They
haven't lived here. They know nothing about this place. You know, Oh, my daddy was a conservative farmer and he was in World War Two. I don't give a damn what your daddy did sixty five years ago. I don't care how conservative he was. Your daddy wasn't living here, he was living in another state. You're not even from here, so you know, I really don't give a damn what your daddy did. That's not who you are. But if you're running on your daddy's history, well then go back
to wherever they hell he's from and run there. People know him. We don't know a damn thing about you. We don't know who your daddy was. But basically most of us don't give a damn right. It's just crazy. It's a stepping stone to an inside information trading racket that's been going on in the Congress in the Senate for years now, and until we start putting stop to it, and still we start banning insider trading for our politicians,
that's what people run for. You get that golden ticket. It's like you know, it's like winning the golden ticket for Willie Walker's chocolate factory. Once you get in the door, it's amazing what you can do with the info that you've got. Nancy Pelosi's gotten, you know, millions off of it. Of course they want to do the same thing. Nobody gives a damn about the people that elect them anymore. They go up there with an agenda in mind, I'm gonna get rich, get mine, and get the hell
out. Well, and if it's not them, then they stick their spouse in there. I mean, look, Mitch McConnell, I don't even know what his wife does all the way around, know uh, you know, she's been involved in different things, and he just kind of goes, oh,
I don't know what she's doing. Mick McConnell's wife is involved. She's what connected with some high dollar Chinese company that I think has direct connections back to the communist rulers in China. I mean, that's another thing, you know, he was There was an investigation not long ago his wife's sister died mysteriously. Nobody put in the news that she died at one of Mitch McConnell's homes. Mysteriously, and she is heavily connected to the communist Chinese, you
know, and Kentucky's been running Mitch McConnell now for how many years? No, I got you. And here's the fun part about that. I mean, like for people that might say it's racist, you know, you're picking on her because here's the problem. If there's any sort of significant business being done by a Chinese company, it is a certainty that the communist government is
involved. On the one hand, they have, you know, a capitalist kind of pseudo capitalist situation going on, But on the other hand, everything of significance has a hand of the government in it as well. It's like a blended We know that Mitch McConnell hasn't been saying things to his wife that end up going straight back to China. We don't know, or how do they're worried about the influence of China on Biden? Right now? What is
it on Mitch McConnell. Has anybody ever looked at that? Yeah, he's a Republican And I'm sorry if you conservatives out there, I think we're picking on you know, a stellar guy, But there's no career politician has been in there as long as Mitch McConnell is stellar, no, no way and even the short run. Guys, look Maga, Mike or whatever. Right, the Speaker of the House this week, I was wondering what your take was on cause I think it was after we did the show last Friday.
Right, not only did the guy die who lit himself on fire outside the Trump trial, which still, by the way, I still don't have anybody adequately explaining to me what his point was. Right wait wait wait wait wait wait, I'm sorry you cut out there. Which trial? Now? What are we talking about? The Trump trial? Last week we talked about the guy lighting himself on fire outside of the Trump Yeah, anyway, so that guy died, Remember we were talking about, well he really didn't, you
know, Yeah, after the show they announced passed away. Right. So, but here's the thing, I still don't have an adequate explanation even though his you know, his uh. And I talked to Mike Swanson about this last night. I put out the podcast a little while ago earlier today. But the thing is, you know, I'm like, yeah, I didn't get an idea about this, and Swanson just said, well, clearly he
was mentally ill. That's the answer, and I'm like, okay, maybe, but he was pretty coherent up to the point of explaining to me why he had to do it right then and there. Anyway, put that aside. This week also we had a big packages right for foreign aid going out, and I think people in Ukraine were sort of happy. But now there's some pushback against that. There was foreign aid going to Israel. Uh, there was a foreign aid going out in pretty big packages, and people are
a little bit pissed apparently, except Trump is. Yeah, except Trump is still supporting his uh, his Speaker of the House guy that he liked to start with far as we know, when he's not falling asleep at his trial. But anyway, I find that funny, uh that you know, look, old guys fall asleep in the middle of the day. It just happens. I mean, hell, I'm not that old. I I want to go to sleep in the middle of the day. I'm gonna tell you what, if I was sitting there, I'd be snoring. This has got to
be you know, sor and listen to this bull crap. Yeah, it's gonna put you asleep. Well, that's the other thing is the more I
look at these alleged charges. I'm saying to myself, like, you know, these these prosecutors are are losing on purpose because nobody in their right mind would objectively bother with the Sure, there are some fines you could issue, and you can't just keep filing false paperwork because otherwise, you know, everybody can do that and nobody earns any money, and then no taxes get collected. And I get all that, but I mean, well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Now, let's cut this.
Let's cut the case down to exactly what it is. Alvin Bragg took a misdemeanor that had expired statue of limitations on the bookkeeping entries for that for that deal had expired. What he did, though, was bootstrapped to a federal election law about campaign contributions. Now, the lawyer who handled all this, he went to jail over this. Okay, he did the deal,
he wrote up the paperwork. Are you talking about, ABENAUGHTI Alvin Bragg connected a misdemeanor that was passed the statute's limitations to a federal elections campaign that the Department of Justice looked at and said, no, we are not going to prosecute this. Are you talking about Ebonatti. Go, are you talking about Abinati with the the lawyer who went to jail, that guy with the stormy
Daniel. Okay, because all right, just slow down a second. Because the stormy Daniel has taken a law that he couldn't prosecute, strapped it to a federal election law that he has no jurisdiction over to make it a felony, and then he backdoors in. It's all cyclical thinking he did this connected to that, and because it's that, it's a felony. So now we
can go and we can do this. Yeah. But even if you take these charges seriously separately, you put them in the right jurisdiction and everything else, it's still nothing. It's it's next to nothing. Like I said, it's worthy of a couple of nine if there's no crime involved here. Well, no, it's worthy of a couple of fines if you're falsely identifying money.
Going wait a minute, the person who actually did the deal, went to jail and paid the fines for an illegal campaign contribution has already been decided. Trump didn't do it. Trump has not broken any law. And what brought this all to a head was back when Stormy Daniels decided to sue Trump over an NDA that wasn't in effect. It was not Trump never signed a non disclosure agreement with her. This was all done by layers and Trump said,
no, I'm not gonna sign it, forget it. What ended up happening was Avenati paid her one hundred and thirty thousand dollars October before the election to shut up. She thought she was under an NDA. Like a fool, she had a lawyer talk her into suing Trump to nullify the NDA, and when it came out in the when the stuff was presented to the court, it was found out Trump never signed it. It was never in effect. It's just words on a piece of paper. It's not an NDA,
it's not binding, it's not legal. And the case was dropped okay, because it was moot. The NDA was not in effect. Stormy Daniels shot herself in the foot on this one, and now she's quite possibly might I don't know how they shot, whether or not. Well, these are the points, yeah, her own, these are the points of defense to defend Trump, and I get it, but look, ultimately, uh, he's
still respond Trump. I'm not defending Trump. I'm defending the system where a DA can take a misdemeanor that is no longer triable, it's no longer prosecutable, and hooking it to another law that he has no jurisdiction over to enforce, and then bringing it into a felony court. I'm I'm defending the system. The system failed on this one. Okay, this thing should be tossed in the next week. Well, the system is a complete failure because it's
nonsensical. All the stuff that you're talking about is just nonsense the way it was assembled. But let's just imagine for a moment that in legal in the legal society and the legal ease, that this is, you know, pliable. All right, Ultimately, you can't just dish off all responsibility if you're
ultimately signing off on certain things. In organizations, you can't dish off all responsibilities to the accountants and the lawyers and the bankers because you have to approve things at a certain point, and Trump had to have approved certain things at certain points in time. Now, I don't want to get into the particulars of it, because at the end of the day, it doesn't even matter.
It doesn't matter how they assembled this because it's all. Even if you took it and said it was legitimate up to this point, it was legitimate up to that point. The charges, even if you cleared away all the stuff that you said where he's bootstrapping and he's going to this not as your let's just say all of that was done properly, and you and I just don't understand it because we're not lawyers. Let's just let's just go with that
for a moment. Here's the thing. Ultimately, even if he is responsible for this stuff, even if you could lay it at his feet that he conspired with his underlings to do all these things, it's still nothing more than something that you would assign a fine to. And that's it. It's not even beyond that. Even if he took campaign money and paid her, let's just say he did that. Now, that's not what he's supposed to do with that money. But then again, you could argue that this would be,
you know, in furtherance of his campaign. However, blah blah, Okay, I don't even want to go there. Let's just say that this was something where he did step over a line legally. Even if you gave them that, it's still nothing more than something you need to do a fine
for. This thing is designed to fall apart, because if they convict him on this, then it should automatically get tossed on appeal because it's gonna make no sense, not only from the procedural point of view you were talking about, but again, even if you assumed that culpability could be applied to him on every single level, it still doesn't rise to anything more than maybe some misdemeanors, some violations of some you know, various things that might not even
be criminal acts that are just you know, parts of policy connected to campaign you know, regulations, Okay, because violating a regulation is not the same as violating a law. All right, So even if you go to the ultimate conclusion here, this whole thing is designed to fall apart if you look at it objectively. There's no other way to look at this, in my mind, is except that it's just going to fall apart. So ultimately, other people would say, Okay, yeah, you're right, But here's the
thing. They're just trying to keep them from campaigning, and that's what the whole point of this is. That's why they're making him go to court. I think there's a little more to it. I I don't think I don't think this was designed to fall apart. I think this was a partisan attack that was designed to do exactly what it's doing, keeping him tied up in court. Look at look at the well, look at this. Look at the civil assault or the sexual assault trial with what's her name? The lady
call stued him for Carroll e Gene Carroll. Yeah, all right, in that case, you know, you look at the court system on how that worked. He was found guilty. Now, she accused him of rape in a store. I can't tell you what year it was. She knew she was wearing a certain dress that apparently hadn't even been designed when this took place, and he was found guilty. I mean, that's how screwed up this system is. Somebody offered no evidence whatsoever except to say in such and such,
and I think it was between this year and that year. I'm not sure. This man came in a dressing room and he raped me. Well, they found him guilty of and I'm still don't understand this part. They found him guilty of sexual assault, but not of rape. They specifically said, no, he did not rape her, So how he could be found
civilly liable for this. Oh and by the way, the law that this was done under was a direct result of in the Me Too movement, when New York decided, Okay, we're going to take down a statue of limitations on stuff that happened thirty years ago, and we're gonna now let for the next limited time, So hurry to your lawyer's office. We're gonna let you file charges against somebody and we'll see what happens. Which is why I want to talk about Weinstein, all of half a million dollars in fines, you
know, for something that the woman had no proof on. That's how strewed up the system is. So when it comes to these cases, especially the ones we're looking at now, Bragg and the one in Georgia and uh or is it Jacksmith's stuff about marl Largo and the documents. Okay, all of these were set up to keep him busy in court. I don't think they were designed to fail. I think they were designed to be as convoluted as they could be to confuse the court, confuse any jury that's going to sit
there and look at something, to find him guilty of something. The problem is they don't have the law to back them up. Yes, these things are probably going to get dropped on appeals, but that's long after the effect that they're looking for. These things were not designed to fail. If they
were, they would have failed before now. They wouldn't wait for appeal if they I think they are purposely designed to tie him up as long as possible, make him spend it as much money as possible, put his property up at risk, just so that it could go after Trump. I've never seen a politician have this many people go after him with daggers simply because they don't
like him. They're not going after him with daggers, cause if you go after somebody with a dagger, you go after somebody with something that's sharp, that can actually cut him. None of this stuff is gonna stick. I'm not saying that the people going after him or the brightest bulls in the drawer. I mean the Democrats in the past ten years have shown just how stupid they can be, and they're getting worse. It's they don't care about whether
they're right or wrong. They have a point to make and they're gonna push to the front, and they're gonna do it just as haphazardly as they can because they they've got the people behind them to do it, and to a certain degree that they do in certain areas, especially state of New York. Well, that's why I'd rather pivot to talking about because you want to talk
about the the me too thing and all that Harvey Weinstein. Now they just got done dropping exactly what you know, I knew they would do is dump the cases in New York. Now he's still sitting in jail because of the Los Angeles thing. But you know, basically the whole New York case collapsed. The big thing that was the big media spectacle has now collapsed. It's gone. So you know, he's sitting in there for the other half of
where they went after him in LA. And that's what's gonna happen to Trump here, all this stuff, no matter what they convict him for, find him for all that stuff, it's just gonna well on appeal, gone, gone gone, It's all gonna collapse and ultimately amount to nothing except that he's going to be in the media cycle all this time, concentrating on everything he does. Everything he says. Today he was out there complaining it was too cold in the court room. You know, whatever, doesn't matter. He
farted during proceedings, maybe you know that'll be the next thing. It'll be all right. Anyway, We have one caller on the line, and again I want to remind people. You can come on change this topic if you like, go into any direction you want three one nine five two seven five zero one six, that's the number to call or send me a message on Skype and I'll be more than happy to add you into the show. And I want to take at least this caller and maybe go to a break cause
my head hurt's already from this. I hate covering this. This is depressing, pointless and a gigantic waste of everybody's time. In my mind, there is nothing that's going to stick. It makes no sense, and all it's doing is putting him in the twenty four hour media cycle again. That's the ultimate accomplishment, in my mind, gives him something a bit about. He's
now a martyr. The system's coming after me, woe is me? And you know what's next, Oh, Juliani's being gone after again, by the way, But you know, pay no attention to that, and pay no attention to anything else that's really legitimately going on in the world because we got nonsense that's going to amount to nothing for you to cover. And that's what it is. I mean literally, they're interviewing the people that are doing courtroom sketches of Trump. What did his eyes look like? Tell us about it?
Ugh, anyway, I'm sure that Jimmy James will have something to say about it, and I've got him on the line. Although your phone's crackling there, Jimmy, anyways, go ahead, man, what is on your mind? Throw it on the table? Go ahead? Okay? Uh? Do I sound any better now than you? Change? Now there's some kind of static crackling, But go ahead and make your point, all right?
Uh? Well Trump, I disagree with both of these. Ah. What they're doing is trying to get at the Democrat jury to convict to say guilty on anything so they can try to reject the election results in November. Ah. So it's all about illegitimate that like making the selection results illegitimate in November after he wins. That's what they're going to try to say when the Democrats are going to refuse to acknowledge Trump. This is what they've been writing conspiring
about. I guess they had a big call the other day. Kind of odd. All the news networks were involved, the government just having the big pow wow. You know, yeah you heard about other than that. Yeah, I was saying, you heard about that conference call? Did you? Yeah, the big pow wow? Did you? Did you read about that? I actually did. I actually did. I wasn't sure about the sourcing though, because it only was in two places source wise, and it was
a little unclear. But I believe it. I believe that that happened. A big old conference call happened. Go ahead, Yeah, and uh, let's see. Oh there's something else I want to say, which I agree with you. They're going to do. They're going to try and utilize it. Any convictions that come out of any of this crap is exactly what they're
going to say. See, he's actually a criminal and he's illegitimate after he wins, because he's winning in November, I'm certain of that, and they're gonna say, oh, well, he didn't really win, he's not really are he's not my president? You know that crap again is what will happen. Yeah, I agree with you that that'll happen. Now, is it gonna amount to anything in real world terms. No, but it'll be their their bitch and cry for the next you know, four years. Right?
Oh yeah, okay, So what else? What else you want to add? Good? Oh? I know what I wanted to mention? Donald Trump? Do you ever listen to Bill Maher occasionally? Uh? Why? What? Which thing did you catch recently? You listen to the episode where he interviewed Katie Kirk. I don't think I called Katie Kirk. No, is that a recent one or is that an older one? It's about two weeks old that he's on his other program, his podcasts. He's got a strictly
podcast called Club Random. Yes, Club Random is just right. He's got his Club Random podcast where he smokes a little weed and then talks to one person. And then he's got Real Time, which is his HBO show, which also has a segment that airs on CNN. Now, yes, what he calls his real job, right when he's not doing comedy clubs in his podcast, not the podcast he posts the HBO Because he's pretty much been doing the same thing for twenty eight years. What he even want is politically incorrect,
right, right? No? I was saying that that's when he's not doing his podcast or his or his stand up, then he's doing his real job, which is his HBO show now and like you said, started out as politically and correct when he was on ABC. Right. Yeah, seen, So what did he say to Katie Kirk? Because I missed it, but what did he say to Katie Kirk recently that you were mentioning here? Well, I just think it's interesting. I want you to listen to that
podcast. It's less than an hour long, and I want you to hear what the things they say about Trump. Both of them agree that Trump's a big problem because he's quote unquote against the system. He's passed some problems with the system. I find that part of the conversation. I can't remember the word. How they could? They said exactly what I've been trying to tell you. Well, I have no I have that light Donald Trump, and yes they are trying to destroy him, and yes it still does not like
him. And there's two people that will know because they are the system. Okay, Well you know what, I have a clip of Katie Kirk and Bill Maher talking about how to beat him. Would that be the section you're talking about? What was the clip? Bob It says Bill Maher on how to beat Him with Katie Kirk. Well, it's the same conversation. I have no idea what I wanted to hear them. All right, Well, let's let's try and play that real quick. I'm gonna put you on hold.
Though the crackling is pretty heavy. JJ, it's a pretty nasty crackling, guys, But I'm gonna put you on hold, and I'll try and play this clip and then see if this is what you were trying to get to and see what b Pete wants to say about it. But apparently Bill Maher and Katie Kirk talking about how to beat him. I assume that that's Trump. So let's see the way you deal with Trump? Is this? Okay? Remember the town hall he had on CNN about six months ago and
the audience loved it. The audience loved it, I mean, you can't, you can hate it was stabbed with Trump's supporters. Well they said Republicans and independents, that's what they said. Okay, maybe it was how'd they get in if they did? That's on CNN. Yeah, I agree, I think it is ONNN and the vetting process. Well, then you've got to get a better audience person obviously. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the person who handed the gun to Alec Baldwin. Yeah, you know, you
got to get good people in all these positions. I agree. Okay, So if that was about whatever, if in if it was, here's what happened. Here's what people saw in America. They saw Trump killing it, killing it with the crowd. Then you come to a panel of six people who all just do nothing but dump on him and call him a liar, and America goes, oh, didn't you just see that? We like him and now a stand up comedian, what he's chilling it? He's not a
stand up comedian, but popularity, it doesn't matter. The people loved him and what he was saying. And then you cut to a panel of six no it alls in Washington who just do nothing but talk about the name and like, I'm all in on the negative. No one's bit harder on Trump than me. But I get it and I'm bored with it. And there's a different way to do this, I think, is not to defend Trump, but to defend the people who still vote for him, because what they
see on the other side to them is even more dangerous. See what's funny about this to me is that he's dancing all around. What it is that I'm saying, he's mad at CNN that they let you know, oh, they let the wrong people in to support Trump there at the Trump down. Well, no kidding, that's what you do. It's going to rise the ratings. Look the anti hero guy, right, the guy who's working against
the system. It works great as a TV show, it does. Bill Maher recognizes that he's mad that Trump is being made to look good because the talking heads go on there and tear him down, and they're clearly the elitist, idiot talking heads. The same people that are gonna tear him down are gonna yeah, yeah, it's like watching the wrestling match. You're the ultimate bad guy here in the Wwe mean gene, I'll tell you, and I gotta go get him because he's the big bad guy. And it's about at
that level to my mind. So I think Bill Maher's explaining. By the way, this clip is about four minutes longer more. I don't know if this is all of what Jimmy James was trying to get at, but let me check with him. If he's still on the line, and see if this is the segment that he was thinking of, Jimmy, is this the segment you were thinking of? What's the interview? But I have only heard the perks that please keep playing it? Okay, to do stuff? Cool?
I'll play some more, but again, I'm gonna put you on hold to stop the crackling noise. But I'll play a little more of this and then, be Pete, I think we'll go to a break after this, unless you want to comment on it for a few minutes. Uh, but I'm gonna play a couple more minutes of this. Is that okay with you? Be Pete? Oh I might have lost Be Pete. I don't think I did. He's still there. Oh, there you are. Do you mind if I play a couple more minutes of this? Just yeah, let's
let's take a listen and see what else you's got to say. It's just two more minutes. Just listen to the whole thing and then we'll collect afterwards. Okay, Cool, Here we go because it's very closer to home. My kid is coming home from school and he thinks he's a racist. He's five. What have you been telling him? You know, my son thinks maybe he's not a boy, and maybe that's true, that happens, but you know, those kind of things are what they say. That's why I'm
voting for Trump. Backlash, the pendulum swinging. If one said to me, what you don't get about Trump is we don't like him either. Now that's not true for all people. There are people who just love his dirty draws and they are dirty. But lots of people it's like that, we don't like him, but he's all that stands between us and madness. That's their view, So I would like that view presented. That view. Don't say not election deniers, but just try to understand why even the election denying
thing is not a deal breaker for these people. And I think they're wrong, but I don't hate them, so they're not stupid. You're saying, it's cultural issues that should be interrogated. Lots of crazy shit in society that's going on that makes no sense when I talk about it in the opening of the book. You talk about it on the show off, Yes, the one about the I did the whole thing about mister Beast, and you know, mister Beast thinks of disability is something that needs to be cured. Yes,
it is something that needs to be cured. Things like that, you know, the homeless, keeping them on the street and you know, fighting for their right to be on instead of just making sure that they have a place to It's this crazy shit every day in the news, and it's always that kind of stuff from the left, and the stuff from the right, of course is even more dangerous. But we're just talking about talking to people half the country that I don't want to hate, and I don't hate.
I don't want to hate. In fact, I want to talk to and I want to get in my audience, and I when I do stand up now, I do have a much more mixed audience. I don't know if they're full on Trumpers, but some of them, and there should be. It's half the country. They're not going to self deport, right, You're not going to So how do you think you know the so Roni McDaniel, I'm curious how you felt about NBC, perfect question exactly. That's the issue
right there. Election Denier, the only election Denier a little bit of a meddler. Also, I think she also said that January sixth was sort of a festival. Well fair dialogue. I can't remember, I should get the right got out of head. She kind of, you know, Selt pedaled that whole thing right, and apparently was very, very difficult to reporters who were just trying to get information. I don't know enough about her, but I know that she did say the election was rigged. And so NBC is
in this position. So how do you find someone who represents Trump voters who feel his policy to your point, his policies may be better than the others in some cultural senses. If that's how they feel, how do you find someone who represents with him. It's not even policy because you can't even talk about policy with Trump because he never really has one. He just says whatever is at the top of his head. Yeah. I think the biggest mistake
about people make about Trump is anyone ever thinking he planned anything. It's all just whatever at the very moment comes to him that will make people nod their head in agreement. He pulls statistics and events out of his ass completely. It's just he doesn't care they fact check it. He doesn't care. He'll just say whatever it is. The murder rate is about the forty percent higher it was. It's not it's two. You know, it just doesn't matter
and he doesn't care. He said that thing that Billy Burt's that time when Billy Burr's confronts him. Right, you know, Donald, you keep saying the Apprentice is number one. It's not even close. You just say it. Believe you just say it. People believe it. That's who. That's how we're up again. Hey, thanks for watching the clip. Okay, so there's the whole clip, all right, of that one, and let me see if that's what Jimmy was referring to real fast, and then we'll
let be Pete and you guys taking a part. I guess, good, Jimmy, is that the whole clip or it was another part? Sadly there was? Okay, Well, if you could give me a couple of clothes, I find Katie Kirk still then she's just dislisting Bill Barr. Pretty annoying. Well, she's an annoying human being anyway. I mean, let's be honest, right. I always found it funny South Park did that thing, remember the the the the the crap scale, uh for the largest poops they
measured it in Kirks. Yeah, there you go. I thought that that was hilarious where Bono may you know took the biggest crap ever recorded? Right, and uh it's measured in curage anyway. Yeah, Jimmy, Look, your your phone is crackling. Can you you hear that crackling too? Right? Uh? Like? B Pete? Yeah, you know what, I'll just call back, Maybe I'll come in better. There you go. You give us a call back. Yeah, you give us a call back.
Jimmy, James and anybody else he wants to call in. Look three one nine five two seven five zero one six, even if your line is crackling, if I can understand what you're saying, or if you got a clip you want played, or whatever else you got on your mind, bring it on. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six, B Pete, Uh, I open it up for your commentary on that clip. Anything
you want to say. Well, yeah, I mean the perfect example of two meet the elites who were basically trying to out ass hat each other. I mean, we've got say what you want, Bill Maher For years, you know, you made that little equipment there. You know about comments about policies on the left and even you know the more dangerous policies coming from the right. They're just a couple of elites that sit around think they're better than
other people, think they're smarter than other people. And yet you know, they call Ronal McDaniel, who was hired by NBC after she'd left the RNC position, as being an election denier and what did he say, manipulator or something. Anyway, they don't bring up the fact, or they conveniently forget the fact, or they purposely don't mention the fact, or ever bring up
that after bushbeat Gore, after or after Trump won. Back in twenty sixteen, you had congressmans standing up when it came time to certify the election. This is not my president. I mean, Trump had protests, people throw an exit his car on his way to his inauguration. You know, so election denier, that's the new keyword to throw towards Republicans. An election denier.
They automatically are excluded from society because they denied an election. Well, you can go and find twenty minute videos of just clippets of Democrats standing up in Congress saying this is not my president. We shouldn't take these electors,
blah blah blah blah blah. People may not realize this, but in the course of elections, a federal election in the United States, there are certain procedures to certify the election, and if there are questions about the votes coming from certain states, electors can be denied and there's a process to do that. And if you go through that process, you're not denying an election. You're following the rules to try to get the election straightened out so the right
person is in office so you can say what you want. These two clowns sit there, back and forth, agreeing with each other's great commentary on what's going on in this world, and they're both absolutely clueless as to what regular life is all about. They have no idea of what normal people do every day, going out there and busting their hump trying to pay the bills. That these two ignore. They ignore the situation that most people live in.
The problem is, up until now, you've had politicians come out there and there are certain things they don't say, and that's on both sides of the aisle. There are certain things that they're not going to say. Trump comes along and all those people whose voices aren't heard suddenly have a guy come up there that will say anything. He will throw it out there as red meat to the crowd because he knows that's what they're going to respond to. It's
all theater. Trump's good at it. You know. They talk about fact checking. Oh well, uh, he said that crime was up forty percent, you know, when it actually isn't two and the fact checkers go crazy. But where in the hell are all the fact checkers from when Trump got
elected that are looking at this president now? They all get fired because there's not a single major media source out there that's coming out and blatantly pointing out all of the lies that come out of this president's our current president's mouth on a daily basis, the stuff that comes out of his White House spokesman's mouth on a daily basis. I mean, this is ridiculous. Anybody that puts any kind of creedence into anything that Bill Maher or Katie Kirk has to say,
as far as I'm concerned, cut them off. I don't want to hear a word because they're talking nonsense. If that's who they get behind, if that's who they look to to provide the truth to the public, you might as well hang it up. It's just ridiculous. That's how that's how damn. That's the sorry state of affairs that we have to recognize now exists in this country and in our media. Those two are a perfect example of
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b Pete. So we did listen to six whole minutes of Bill Maher altogether. Okay, I don't know, you know, the same old crap. I'm bored to tears with these people, I really am. And I got no arguments for the way you described, you know, media elites, people that you know have the money to remember. Uh, you know what, what did he do? Donate a million dollars to the Obama campaign? Right because he was afraid Mitt Romney was going to ruin the country. Supposedly,
Bill Mutt another example of Republican misstep. And mister Mitt Romney biggest waste of protoplasm I've ever seen. See Now, I don't know. I didn't have as big of an objection to Mitt Romney in general, you know, as as some people did. I thought that he was kind of okay according to most conservatives up until a couple of years ago. What what happened? What was the car? Another carpet He's another carpetbacker. Okay, he goes ron
claim to fame was, you know, handling the Olympics. He did such a stellar job handling the you know, he was out in Utah at the time. He's been living between two places, Utah and was it Massachusetts? Okay? Didn't his father have something to do with h with his success too? Though? Or am I crazy? Oh? Yeah, he's a legacy. I mean he inherited his money. Okay. That's the thing about Rona McDaniel. Shit, See that was Mitt Romney's daughter. That's how she got
into her position at the RNC. He never heard the Romney part of it. No, Mitt Romney was another just like, what's it McCain from Arizona. You know, well one of those Oh he's a conservative. No he's not, never has been, Okay, just another elite ass had Look, and I've got objections to elitists. I don't care what political stripe. You know what I'm saying. These people that are completely and and that's why I feel your points on mar These people that are totally disconnected from real life.
I mean the people that can get on TV and with a straight fan tell you what our economy is doing great? Who who the hell is it doing great. I was asking that question, and look, in fairness, it's not just about Joe Biden, and it's not just about you know, the great, wonderful economic times of Donald Trump. Screw that. Let's go before that, the giant economic recovery that was supposed to be going on during the
majority of both of Obama's terms. Okay, because the crash happens in two thousand and eight, Okay, you know, the big real estate market crash, a whole lot of financial pressure on people in two thousand and eight. Maybe people's memories are not there. I mean, I know some people are too young, some of these millennials. I guess I didn't have adult responsibilities
at that time. Maybe they don't remember. But when that happened, financial times was tough, and people were talking like, hey, something's got to be done here. And then I kept hearing about the slow moving economy, slow moving recovery from the great crash. Right now Obama's in office, it's his first term, uh in O eight nine, right, and they're telling me that, look, the economy's already recovering. And I asked the question. The whole time. I didn't have a radio show, but I used
to ask people in general, where the hell are people recovering. I don't see anybody's wages going up. I see people's bills going up now, not as drastic as it's been in the past couple of years. But I didn't see economic recovery where all of a sudden there was a bit of a boom. I would tell you that, you know, the last time I recall
a good economy cooking pretty well, Bill Clinton was in office. Now we come to find out that that was pretty much like placing the whole economy on a credit card, and it's great when you're spending it, but it kind of sucks when you got to pay the bill. Uh. And that's what Clinton did to the country, it seems like to me. Also, people celebrated them for certain, you know, middle of the line kind of things when it came to you know, work fair and the way that he was
handling you know, deadbeat dads and stuff like that. Gotta tell you, if you're on the wrong end of that situation, you can be abused by the system that Bill Clinton encouraged be reformed. And I got abused by it for a decade, you know, So over time I got tempered with what I thought about Bill Clinton. But in real time, when it was happening, financial times were doing pretty well. It was easier to succeed, to
exceed, to go beyond your bare minimal needs. Okay. But ever since then, and quite frankly post September eleventh, I don't recall a great financial surge where things were just going really really well in general. Okay. And but anyway back to this thing about and it wasn't all that bad while Bush was in there. Although I objected to the foreign wars that that's another subject, the domestic issues, it still sucked the whole time Obama was in there.
And if I criticized stuff Obama was saying doing his policies, whatever, I got called a racist. You know. It was like, no, you're racist, You just you just don't like him because he's black. And it's like, well, he's also half white. Do I hate him because he's half white? No, I don't hate him at all. Well, that was the amazing thing about them that whole time. Nobody would ever acknowledge that he was half white. That's the part that kills me. No I
did. But but we couldn't even elect a whole black person to the position he got elected because he was half white. H look simple, but you know how much I don't care about that bottom line again though, BP, do you recall all that time them telling us that there's this great recovery that's going on, but it's in slow mode. It's you know, the slow moving recovery that was going on for like six of Obama's eight years pretty much or my craft. Yeah, and there wasn't a recovery when they talked about
a recovery going on. What it meant was all those individuals that were involved in all that illegal activity that went on and crashed the housing market, which then turned around and crashed the whole financial sector, not only in the United States but in a lot of places worldwide. That, yeah, there was a recovery. What it was is that all the big money banks got bailed
out. That was the recovery. And because they got bailed out, well, then there was money to spread around, and money to give bonuses and money to give incentives to all these idiots to put the whole country in financial disaster. You that's the part that kills me about this. But when you had people like Mitt Romney who let me remind you, was a Democrat until he decided to run against Ted Kennedy in Massachusetts in nineteen ninety four. Really
thought Kennedy was vulnerable. Up until that time, Romney had been a Democrat. He voted for Paul Songers, he voted for Democrats from that area. So then he goes to Utah, becomes a carpetbacker after he works on the Olympics there, and that's how he gets into the Senate as a Republican. So you know, this whole time with Obama, you had the media.
Okay, yes, we elected the first black president. I was in talks off the air with the guy that worked at one of the big local stations here in the state about those elections, and he asked me, he said, look, he says, you called Obama's first election down to a nail. I mean, you pinned it. You knew exactly what was going on, and you were dead right. What about his reelection? Okay? And
who do we have for the reelection? Another Rhino Republican? And I told him, I said, he's going to win this state because it's all about the economy. What was it, James Carville said, back when Clinton was running. It's all about the economy. Stupid. That's what we're seeing now. That's what we saw back under Obama's reelection. You know, the economy everybody was talking about, Oh yeah, it's coming back slow, it's coming
back slow. It never came back. I'm sorry. It helped out the rich and the elite in the one percent, but it didn't help out mom and pop down the street. After stepping down from Bain Capital and his local leadership role in the LDS Church, Romney was the Republican nominee in the nineteen ninety four United States Senate race in Massachusetts. I'm reading from a description about his political career. After losing to five term incumbent Ted Kennedy, he resumed
his position at Bain Capital. Years later, a successful stint as president and CEO of the then struggling Salt Lake Organizing Committee for the two thousand and two Winter Olympics led to a relaunch of his political career. Elected governor of matt Excuset's in two thousand and two, Romney helped develop and later sign a healthcare
reform. Okay, that's the Romney Care thing and all that, all right, but he doesn't become a Republican until ninety four, right right, Okay, and he loses to Ted Kennedy and then after that his political career was on hold. He went back to his hedge bund and that throws yeah, and that throws a hole in you know, you remember when we had these political pundits out there go and say, you know, big business they support
Republicans. Bullshit, they support whoever they think is going to legislate the way they want legislating. Oh, that's correct. There's been more money. You look at what he was when Bain Bain Capital was one of the big what was when what was the movie with Michael Douglass Wall Street? Well, there was you know they were talking about buying companies and busting them apart and selling off the you know, the parts and getting rid of what was left.
That's what Son Oliver Stone movie. Yeah at Vain. Yeah, these leverage takeovers and things like that, That's what Bromney was doing. You know, you look at Bain Capital and the money that they were generating in the deals, and they were working with big companies like Monsanto, uh Corning. You know, they were advising these companies on which way to go how to invest their own money is what to do to cut costs. You know, he's
a he's an advisor, and he was really deep into it. A lot of that big money that people thought was you know, Republican uh back No, they were supporting the Democrats whoever they thought was going to legislate the way they wanted to. And until you know, and I've always said, until we get that they have money out of politics, we're never going to have a recovery that's going to affect Middle America fair enough. So let's get to the callers now. And I see there's a couple of you on the line,
so let's try and get to everybody. It looks like Jimmy James called back in, so let's see what he's got to add into this, and uh, we'll check in with everybody else afterwards. Three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six all the way up to ten PM when the age of transitions begins. So I think I got Jimmy James back on, and I don't hear crackling Jimmy. So you're good? How you all right? What you got on your mind? Now? Oh? Well, Romney, Yeah, that guy gets around his dad was the governor of
Michigan, and he grew up in Michigan. Supposedly that's why his name's Mitt as in our state looks like a Minton, all right to Minton and then yeah, he's he's a right, I know. Uh yeah, I'm gonna get that clip in particular Bill maherin that woman maybe in that way. I'll we could just play it next week. I'll have the right part because that shows like fifty Bennett's long. Yeah, it's about an hour, right,
might take forever, Yeah, it might take forever to find it. I don't know, no, So what specific topic, what exactly were they discussing in the clip, I I might confind it, yeah, because they do break it down into clips on his channel on YouTube fairly well, so if we knew exactly which clip you wanted. They're so stupid they don't even realize.
What they said is a clip of Bill Maher and Katie Kirk talking about how the system and the government Trump's, how it's they're fighting Trump because Trumps. They just said a bunch of things out loud that I already all right, Well, I don't know how they talking about how the Trump's against the system and the systems against Trump as in the bureau cant soapball government. Okay, well, you find the clip and send it to me, and I
will play it next week, I guarantee you. So I'm gonna put you on hold right now and I'll probably come back around to you before we run out of time. I've got another caller on the line, so I'm going to go to them and remind you guys that the most interesting guy I ever saw flip back and forth political party wise was Arlen Spector. You remember that
VPTE, you know, Warren commissioned Arl Inspector. Yeah, well I always found him interesting because if we go again, I mean, I might as well just use the Wikipedia thing here we go, so you know, yeah, well if you think about it, Trump, you know, I go ahead, go ahead. Well, he died in twenty twelve, which is almost ten years after I saw him in a Pittsburgh, PA when he went to the SERRA WEC conference for the fortieth anniversary of the Kennedy assassination. Anyways,
from his Wikipedia page. Arl Inspector February twelfth, nineteen thirty two October fourteenth, twenty twelve was an American lawyer, author and politician who served as a United States Senator from Pennsylvania, Okay, from nineteen eighty one to twenty eleven. Specter was a Democrat from nineteen fifty one to nineteen sixty five, then a Republican from nineteen sixty five, you know, during his well right
after his Warren Commission days. He was a Democrat through the Warren Commission days, but in nineteen sixty five became a Republican until two thousand and nine, when he switched back to the Democratic Party. First elected in nineteen eighty, he was the longest serving Senator from Pennsylvania, having represented the state four thirty years, so five terms is what we're talking about here. And he was born in Wichita, Kansas. I guess he would be a carpetbagger, if
Pennsylvania has such thing. Anyways, just want to remind you about that guy, because that's who always comes to my mind. I think of people switching political parties. Arlen Spector, who did it later in life, early in life, everywhere he was switching parties. Trump did the same thing. Oh yeah, but see Trump. Look Trump, I don't blame because he was just going for whoever he could buy. And he said as much. You
know. You know, one of the one of the biggest things that turned me off on Trump is his support for him, Willy Clinton, until he decided to run against her. Well, of course, because they were for sale. Look, anybody was for sale. He didn't care if Satan was on the ticket long as Satan would, you know, take some money from him to do some of the things he wanted, just like any good businessman. This is a good businessman, think he did. I'm not saying he's
a good businessman, but that's a smart thing to do. If you're in big enough business, buy the politicians you need. You know, that's where organized crime and big business are the same thing. You buy the politicians you require. I mean you might as well they are for sale after all. Anyway, let's go to a caller. I mean, that's what kills me, though, is you get these two talking heads at each other talking about, you know, election deniers. Who's the biggest election denier that we've seen
in the last eight years? Hillary Wentton and everybody gave her a platform to go out and deny the election. But yet they bring up maga individuals as being election deniers. I mean, that's really the worst that you could be. I have a feeling that you could be a racist, pedophile and still get more respect from the Democrats than you would be an election denier on the
side of Republicans. That's what kills me about this. They are the most hypocritical group of people that have ever been elected to power in the world. Today's Democrats. I'm sorry, They're a plague on this earth, if you say so. But the funny thing about Hillary Clinton is, no matter how much the media you know, gives her a platform or whatever, nobody cares. She doesn't even have any real supporters, which is the funny part about it. And that's why she does. Yes, she does. Real people
could get her in office today, she'd be running real people. You think real people actually support her? I've never met one anyway, real Democrats? Do you know what the people that I knew that were Democrats back then were. Nobody was enthusiastic about her. Nobody nobody at all. How she had elected the New York Senate? How did show did she carpet bag and become a senator? She has the support. Her problem is she ticked off too
many people in the process. She stepped on them on her way to the top because she thought she was entitled, and so they set her down for a little bit, you know, kind of pulled in on choke Shane. But she has support, believe it or not. There's enough to many people in the Democratic Party that they could put her in office, depending on who
she's running against. Look how Joe Biden got in my god. Well, I begged people to come on my show and talk about, you know, her at all on this positive side, and I could get no one. Nobody wanted to even invest time. Nobody cared, nobody, no real person I knew, even if they were a Democrat, even if they were going to vote for, they were holding their nose that nobody wanted to vote for. So anyway, we do have another caller which I have added, and
I can't identify them. So anyway you're on the air. It's Danny from California. And I'm going to agree with both you and BPTE about Hillary. I'm on the left. And Hillary was a bad candidate. She was awful. She wasn't you know, she was awful, And I mean she couldn't win in two thousand and eight against Obama and that's when all the big money went to Obama. And then you know it, basically she had to you know, use the DNC. They tipped the scales four in twenty sixteen,
So she brought up she brought a lot of her problems on herself. And it's far this whole thing about Rhino's the last Clinton and Obama. I can make the case they were they were more Republican than they were actual let's say, like a new deal Democrat that changed after the way the so called they were they were they governed. No, I understand, But here's the thing is that in today's vernacular, nobody wants to accept that kind of idea.
You know, left and right have changed in definition in the past. You know, I would say fifteen years, very very seriously, and I don't think anybody's got the muscle memory to recall what somebody on the actual left was. Like, I mean, the majority of what I see being represented as the left is not on the left. It's it's weird fringe stuff that gets identified as the left, but it's not legit. There's no coherence there. There used to be a coherent left, whether I agreed with it or not.
And at one time I agreed with the Libertarians before they got invaded, you know, by this other entity that took it over. I was very much on the libertarian side of things, say in the nineteen nineties. Okay, but that that is unrecognizable from the party today, and I argue that any of these parties are unrecognizable. Has had the fringe connected to it for the past fifty years. You've had every crack pot socialist, communist, Nazi
attached themselves to the Democrat Party since before FDR was in there. Well, look, realistically, though, the Klan, all right, there is a point in time where the Klan was literally occupied by Democrats, and then there's a point in time where the Klan was coming out and supporting the Republicans. There was a shift at a certain point. You know, you're David Dukes of the world. Where was he try and run? He wasn't trying to run as a Democrat, David Duke, you know, and people like him
anyway, It doesn't matter. What I'm saying is that that's only because the Democrats didn't want anything to do with David Duke, because all it did was bring back memories of everything the Democrats have done to try to keep black people down since before the Civil War. Well, they didn't want David to Doke
connected because they didn't want all that history up. You have. It was up not until what ten years ago that you finally had high ups in the Democrat Party come out and apologize for Jim Crow and all the crap that they pulled after the Civil War. I mean, my god, the Democrats are nothing but a bunch of racist tugs with a bunch of outliers connected in the
group. And they've been that way for half a century or more. Well, and I can tell you that there are people that argue that even the liberal policies, the ones that are thought of to be progressive and everything else, are actually designed to subjugate and to sublimate the actual free will of the individuals that they claim to defend. There's lots of differences to look at this
absolutely inside of every progressive as a totalitarian screaming to get out. Well, it seems to me as though you could thank David Horowitz for that quote. Your proof is out there. Sure, look at what we've got in place now, Biden as a Democrat as now they talk about old Trump gets in he's gonna go after his enemy. Oh, if Trump gets in, it's gonna be a martial law. If Trump gets in, it's going to be a dictator. What the hell do you think we're living through right now?
With Biden in office deciding he's going to go and just wipe away people's debts. The Supreme Court says, no, you can't do it's not constitutional, and he basically says, screw you, I'm gonna do it anyway. And then we wait for the courts to catch up with this madness that's going on in office right now. You want to talk about totalitarians, the Democratic Party
is the worst for totalitarian actions in their history. You can't even Republicans can't can hold a candle to the totalitarian tactics of the left and the Democrat Party in the United States. Internment camps, who gee, who thought those up? Democrats? Bull Connor, what was he? He was a Democrat? Jim Crow laws, Democrats, voting rights manipulations in the South after reconstruction. Democrats. I'm telling you they are a plague on this earth and we need
to eradicate them. Okay, Well, I know you feel passionately about it, and I hear you. What can I say? But currently though, I don't think the Nationalist Forum the stuff that is, you know about purity and restoring things to its former default or on the Democratic side, it's just incoherent stuff, incoherent nonsense on the left the way I see it. But other people tell me, no, they're well organized. I wish I could see that. I don't. You know. The only thing I see being
will organized next election. Well, you will see it after this next election when Trump, well think so, you're going to see a major effort that they have been planning this whole time to deny him the ability to legislate anything. They did it in his first go round. Now they're even more prepared
and they've got more money to do it. You wait and see the lawsuits and the crap that is going to be thrown out there the minute that Trump is well, no, no, that I won't even wait for his inauguration, wait till he's elected in November. We see the bull craft that's going to come out from the Democrats on this, and get ready for it. It's going to be a doozy Okay, Simon, We let Danny speak and say what he wants to say, I'm just gonna let it be at that.
Go ahead, Danny, say what you want to say is as far as the bull crap, I think it's an it's an equal opportunity. I mean, both sides do it. That's just the reality. It's all to keep us distracted. Now, you're correct. At one time the Democrat Democratic Party, especially in the South, they were they were definitely racist. But look what happened. What changed? They all moved over to the Republican Party. That's a fact. No, they didn't know. That is not a
fact. No, that has been debunked. That had the only person you had, No, the Democrats did not switch sides and become Republicans. That's blatant, bleeding bullard craft. The only one that hed to do it. That strom Thurmann was the only one that changed parties. All the rest of them, all, the Dixiecrats, stayed in the Democratic Party and just kept
spouting their bull craft. Bill Clinton's biggest biggest mentor was William Fulbright, who was the biggest racist that was country seen when you compare them on the list, and that was that was Clinton's mentor. There must have changed parties, didn't switch sides. Democrats didn't become Republicans. They voted for Nixon. In that Nixon took the South with and he played on the sympathies of those conservative
Democrats and he won. He found a strategy that would win in the South, strong, national defense, working you know, the working class people out there have not been represented by the Democrats, and he won. This whole story about switching parties has been debunked time and time again. Okay, anyway, Dad, are you still there? Well, I'm still here. I'm I'm just telling you. I grew up in a conservative Republican council, voted for Ronald Reagan twice. I saw this change. It changed. The whole
entire South is now all in the Republican Party. Some things have not changed. Now. I'm not calling all Republicans races. That's not fair, because I know better than that. I have a lot. I mean, I grew up the way and I was a true believer. But I've evolved through time and certain things. When it comes to foreign policy and economics, I moved to the left. Socially, I'm a radical moderate. My personal lifestyle is probably everyone would paint me as a conservative, but I think there's been
magnitudes of shifts in both parties. I mean, the Democrat Party has moved to the right, and I think the Republican Party has moved even further the right. But one thing they do serve is they serve the financial industry. One thing that has definitely benefited from this chaos of both parties is the wealthy have gotten wealthier. In the middle classes and lower classes struggled for nearly fifty
years seething. Yeah. Is there's something that I think we could all actually come to an agreement on is that both parties have effectively become the servants of the upper class. I mean, that's all it's there for. It's not there to the lower class, absolutely, and that's you know, absolutely, He who has the most money to play with wins and that's the end of it. You know, there was a reason why. Uh it wasn't just
the Koch brothers. It wasn't just you know, uh this or that foundation that was able to run the packs and all these other things that were going on here. The fact is that he who pays the most gets the most result. And that's what it is. It's all a giant pay to play and it doesn't matter if they got a D or an R in front of their name. You know you're a Wall Street guy. You need to go talk to the Democrats. Uh, you know, you're a certain other kind
of big business guy, big oil, big tech. Uh well, actually big tech. I think I'm not sure where big tech is landing at this point. They used to land with the Democrats. I think they've gone Republican Democrats they still do. Okay, well, I'm not sure about it, like I said, but you know, you take a look at the big business people. You see where they land, and you see exactly who legislates on their on their behalf. Okay, so that week can eat agree on
Now. Another thing, b Pete is that you'd have to say that at one time, almost the entire South, regardless of what you know, was going on really in the real world, and one time almost the entire South was Dixie Land, dixiecrat it was democratic. Right nowadays, I would say not so much. You don't really have democratic states down south anymore, do you, or do you think that you still do? Are there democratic defends?
You look at the state Armien that's already predicted that because of who the Republicans are running for governor, We're going to end up with another Democrat governor and a Republican House and Senate. It's the weirdest thing. They will vote Democrat on a state level in this state, left and right, but when it comes to a federal level, chances are Republicans are going to take the
state. I know Trump's going to take it. I knew Obama was going to take it the first time around, but he wasn't the second because people were hurting economically. That that recovery ever happened, it never reached down to them. So yeah, at one time the South was solid Democrat, right, you couldn't beat them. That's how they kept these state legislatures in place for over one hundred years. But the changes that came, you got to
realize when the shift was supposed to happen. Look what was going on in the sixties of what the left was entailing. The left had to garner the support of the protest group. I mean, look at what they did at the Democrat convention to sixty eight. You know, it was nothing but riots going on out the streets. Those were the fringe left that was out there
fighting the Democrats for what was on their platform. So you had a lot of conservative Democrats in the South that thought, now we're about tired of this long haired hippie crap working its way into our policy, and they started looking at the Republican platform, which was low taxes, small government, which the
South was all for. I mean, you had some changes when again, that's how Nixon was so swift and pulling off a landslide, was he was able to capitalize on those things that conservative Democrats wanted to see but had left their own party. It became the party of the liberal protest back in the sixties. That's when you saw the changes happening. Well, I'm going to you still have a heavy Democrat presidence here. Well, okay, if you say so, I didn't. You know, it seemed to me like not
so much. You know, it seemed to me like it's not like Georgia. Georgia from top to bottom is run by the Republicans. I say it again, How did you have to then? How do you have two Democrats editors? How did we get that? Because what they ran against them was so horrible and so correct. Well, but that's besides the point. People will switch. You see, the people that elect people now are the independents. Your parties are about split even even it's the unaffiliated and the independent voter
that makes the decision. Now, now, this state overwhelmingly voted for Barack Obama because he was a black candidate for president and people thought he was slick, thought he looked good, thought he could you know, had the message out there of hope and change. Well we got a lot of change, but we're about running out of hope. Yeah. Well, unfortunately you were abandoning all hope. Began taking advantage of that. But there was no way
he was gonna win reelection in this state based on the economy. You people vote their wallet in this state. You were abandoning all hope and begging for change. But here's the problem. Look, at a certain point, there is a breakpoint. Okay after a while, I mean, you could almost put a pile of dog crap with an R in front of its name on the ticket and it'll work. But at a certain point they go, now, this is just too big of a pile of dog crap. We got
to at least go for the other. And that's what happens, I think, you know, and eventually that's where you go. I mean pretty much. It's the anti vote that sometimes gets things done. Danny, I'm gonna put you on hold only because I got another caller and I want to get back around everybody. So I've got a wireless caller here, unidentified, and you're live, and throw on the table whatever you want. I would actually put more faith in a pilot dog crap than either side, but I you
know that's just me. Well, pilot dog crap versus Joe Biden, which one do you vote for? The pilot dog crap? Of course? Okay, pilot dog crap versus Donald Trump? Which one do you vote for? The pilot dog crap? Okay, fair enough. I'm just taking the temperature here and I sprung that question on you. So there you have it. Anyway, throw on the table whatever you want and we'll go go from there. We got about well eighteen minutes left. Good. Yeah, No,
I don't know. I don't know if I missed it as it came up or not. But did Bobby Bobby Kennedy come up at all in the conversation earlier? Not yet, So go ahead, No, I just want I was just going to take the temper sure of everybody. What the thoughts on him, and uh, because I haven't really been keeping up on you know, his various issues, I guess that people have with him, and who he selected. I guess as as a running mate. I think, yeah,
right, his running mate is a pretty well known rich lawyer. And uh, you know what, that's a fairly good question to try and pass around to everybody. So I'll put you on hold, come back around to you at the end, and let's see b Pete any any commentary anything you've been keeping track of regarding RFK Junior. I know he's gotten on a couple of ballots. I get my Kennedy Beacon several times a day. Uh, you know, still complaining about it. He's not getting Secret Service protection.
Uh you know, still I call it the I don't know who the hell he's trying to spoil spoiler, But what do you? What are your thoughts on RFK Junior? Any? And I'll ask everybody who's on the line hanging on, including Jimmy James. I'll start there after I get your comments. That's a tough choice. I mean, if he's he's I think he's qualified for the ballot in our state, and I would seriously consider him. I'd have to listen to him on a couple of policy things, but I would
consider voting for him over Trump only because I'm sorry. Trump is just like the Democrats. He's no different. He's just a you know, he's wearing a different jersey, that's all. But still better than Biden. Anything's better than Biden. Pil my neighbor's cat is better than Biden. So pilot dog crap versus Biden. You say, pilot dog crap. Yeah, I'd have to write in my neighbor's cat. Okay, write in neighbor's cat, got you? Or Felix the cat? Why not? Why not a cartoon anyway?
How about Jimmy James. Let's see if he's got anything he wants to add about RFK JR. Jimmy, how about RFK JR. Any comments? Yeah, don't be bringing Felix into this. Oh, I could have win with Field. He's a very wonderful he's a very wonderful cat. I like Felix too much to put him into politics, But go ahead, Jimmy, all right, Amen. RFK is a goopball. Okay, only him would think it was intelligent. Hey, I know, I'll run with the no
name Chinese lady, that'll resonate right now. No, but despite himself, I guess he is pulling into eleven percent and that stuff about the South earlier. You know what, Nixon and Reagan won every damn state except for like one, So it's irrelevant. The only time the South played any big part would be for Bush Senior and junior, didn't you. Yeah, I was swept up into the war patriotism movement in the early aughts. Fair enough,
But that's all I have said. Yeah, no, fair enough. I was just gonna say, though, wasn't it Reagan versus Mondale Mondale one like Minnesota only? And John Anderson got like three percent of the vote, right, something like that? Right, it was a blowout. Its ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, like forty eight or forty nine of the states plus the extra districts I think all went to Reagan. Something like that. Well,
there you've got another carpetbacker Reagan crowd to run for president. Well, he was a conservative in California though, so before he Reagan switched parties in nineteen fifty. Come on, man, there you go. I mean you had thirty years when he was California's governor. I think he was pretty conservative, wasn't he? Or am I misreading that? Oh, he's very conservative. He had been since the fifties, ever since he started working with General
Electric. He kept studying and reading and got way more political and what the other direction kind of went deeply anti communists at one point, I think, too right. Well, yeah, his whole life. I mean, he's why there's no longer a Soviet Union. And Joe Biden, then a Senator, in his usual way, voted against the Strategic Defense Initiative, which just of course, for instance, saves Israel because of course this led to the
advent of intercononal ballistic missiles patriot missiles, so called Iron Eye. So just shows that Joe Biden's been wrong on every issue since the beginning of time. And yes, I would vote for poop or a cat over Biden. There you go, poop or a cat over Biden. So with that, Danny, let's see, I guess I'll start the other way. What are your thoughts about RFK Junior. First, I I'm not really sure. I mean, I think he was intriguing at first, and I just haven't heard really
anything that's really impressed me. If that makes any sense, no problem the running mate. Any thoughts on the lackluster running mate. She's a very wealthy tech person, came in from Google. I mean I heard her speak. She's very intelligent. But again, like I'm to make the case, the Democrat Party, just like the Republican Party owned by the royal industry, the
Democrat Party is or owned by the tech industry. They had a proposition here or the tech industry kind of screwed over workers that they pumped about one hundred and twenty million dollars into the proposition, and Gavin Nisson was all on board for it. So I mean it's we need to have charity in bothe the parties. I would agree with me and Pete about getting some of the big money out of out of politics. But I think that makes sense. Yeah,
that would be helpful on all sides, Dandy, I figure. So one last question for you though, just because since you identify yourself as being on the left, how about this pile of dog crap versus Donald Trump? Which one do you vote for? I'm gonna plead the fifth. Oh, he pleads the fifth. I like it. I like it a lot, you know what, A lot of my favorite people often plead the fifth, and I'm gonna try and get back around to all callers. Yeah, and
I don't think I've ever said that out loud before. Anyway, there you go. So I put the RFK question everybody, and I've got you. Yeah, go ahead, b Pete. If we have time, question for everybody, What if Trump comes up and picks RFK Junior as his running mate, we can still vote for the Pilo crap over Trump. Well, nobody voted for the pilot crap over Trump so far. Uh, pilot dog crap or a cat over Biden according to Jimmy plead the fifth according to Danny and
uh, let's see pilot dog. Well wait, pilot dog crap was selected overall politicians by this caller. So, uh, I think, right, yeah, yes, yeah, said Bobby. I don't know what to think of him anymore. Right, I was pretty pro Bobby in the beginning, but I don't know what to back now. See that's what happened to me is at first I was like, oh, great, you know, it'll
be good to have an actual independent voice come into the fray. And then as I've examined things and taken a look at who he selected for his running mate, and taking a look at some other things policy wise, some of the you know, very typical. He's going to step in line with the career politicians on certain things. I'm thinking that maybe not the best idea. You know, I don't know what to think of him now, but I do believe that he's not going to have a viable chance. He may be
on the ballot in some states. But you know what, I should look up because I get his campaign rhetoric delivered to me several times a day, but I don't know legitimately how many states he's on the ballot. I think I should look that up while we're talking here. So anyway, with that in mind, wasn't just even Kurr's talking point about running for president was that he had to be ballid access in all fifty states and be allowed to in the dates. That was his two perimeters. Yeah, that was the two
things that Jesse Ventura said. It would would make it worth it for him to try. And at one time there was this idea thrown around, I forget who threw it around, that Ventura wanted Trump to be his vice president or vice versa. Trump wanted Ventur to be his vice president. I don't remember who positive well, yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah, Jesse
had when he was governor of Minnesota. He had a press conference which is still online, I believe, and he invited Trump up there because when Trump was doing the Exploratory Committee for two thousand I think, okay, and they were going back and forth about who would be the others VP and all that. So yeah, you're right. Yeah, see. I couldn't remember which way it went, but it might have been that it was tested both ways. Let's see. Yeah, his quest to be on the ballot in all
fifty states blah above. Mid April, Robert F. Kennedy was on the ballot Independent President's candidate Utah, Michigan. Those campaigns says, work and get him on the ballot in all fifty states. It's I'm trying to see exactly how many he's actually on. I think he has a very good chance to A short answer is I can't say so far. I'm reading right here that let's see what is the date on this? As of April twentieth, they're not sure how many states he's going to be on the ballot for. Let's
see. Campaign says it's completed signature gathering in seven other states in addition to Utah and Michigan. Okay, so right now he's on the ballot in nine. Let's see, super pac supporting Kenny Valley says it has collect enough signatures in one, two, three, Okay, so there are twelve all right, according to the claims by the super PACs and his campaign. Right now, he's on the ballot in thirteen states according to what I'm reading right here.
But that's the combined efforts of his campaign and the super PACs, And sorry, thirteen states is not going to be enough even if you want all of them to collect enough to win. You need what two hundred and seventy electoral votes in order to win? Right? It's two seventy is the minimum, isn't it? Vpete. Yeah, but you're just gonna have to rely on a writing campaign on the states that he's not all ballot. Yeah, but some states don't have the provision to allow you to write in. I
think I got a double check on that. I remember a few years ago, not every state had the gave you the ability to write in a candidate. Let me see if that's changed, though, because you know, a lot of stuff changed in the past few years, and I did not vote the past couple of presidential selections. So let's see, I'm gonna I'm looking things up, so I apologize. But anything else you want to add to or caller before we get back around and run out of time. No,
just the Naughty by Nature podcast by a nature boy. It's a really good markets. Yeah. I was a guest on there recently and uh actually was a I think, an interesting conversation. So it was a good one.
It was. It was good. It was a little strange though, because he asked me about, you know, where things were going with with Israel and the wider conflict, and quite frankly, we had spoken before this exchange between Iran and Israel, and I think I might have said something on there related to I got a message from somebody like you were talking about Iran on there, and I'm like, yeah, nuh duh. But it's not like I predicted anything. Uh. I don't think I came up with anything great
there. What I was saying is that it's a big, giant mess, and I feel like we're being misinformed about the whole thing, Like, you know, take everything with giant grains of salt, is all I said.
Because the MSM is reporting things all all different directions, and you have a certain other what's just call them concerns in other parts of the world, not in the English speaking world primarily, that are reporting on really some horrific stuff happening over there that's not even making it to our headlines in the Western press. So I'm telling you that you're not getting you know, no duh,
you're not getting the full story, obviously from the corporate media. And we talked about it last night with Mike Swanson why you might not be getting it, but you know, just just a reading of the headlines and all, you don't have a good handle on really what's happening regarding this circumstance. We'll
find out about it afterwards. We're going to get after action as far as what the real damage was done, the real body counts, the actual you know, reckoning that is taking place upon certain populations, you're not going to know about it until after the fact, by a long shot. And you know, so that that was my only assertion on there not no big prediction
about Iran. I don't care what anybody says. I didn't have any massive prediction in my head about it. Uh, But I knew that it would come into play because it's been on the uh you know, on the on the vision board for the powers that be for a long time. Iran has been included the access of evil. Who is it that we got to worry about Iran? Iran? Iran? I mean my whole life when I was
a little kid, the hostage crisis started, right, you know. I mean, this has been one of those things where they've been the juicy target for a long time, the desired target for a long time. So Iran getting involved in it, Yeah, I can see this escalating and spreading out, and I hope it doesn't. But that was all I was saying on there is that I'd rather not see, you know, greater conflict and war spreading, you know, any further than it has to, or even continuing
in the region where it is. No. I'm not somebody who's for the idea of conflict combat. And you know the only thing that is definitively true in all of these occasions is that I promise you, no matter what goes on, no matter how righteous or evil the action is, whenever this kind of thing happens. You are guaranteed that innocent bystanders, innocent people who did
not ask to be invited into the conflict are going to die. That's a promise, either from direct you know, directly being shot, burned, bombed, whatever, or as a result of the damage done from warfare. So sorry, I'm not a pro war guy. I can't get into it because I know that no matter what, masses of innocent people are going to die. It's a promise people that in no way wanted any part of the conflict will die. That is a guarantee. That's the only thing I said on
there that was definitive. So anyway, Yeah, the Naughty My Nature podcast, it's on the New Prisoners twenty four to seven. I think they're replaying it there. He might even sent it over to uh free world fm for replay. Do you know how to find free world fm online? Caller? Yeah, I have three shows on there currently. Okay, fair enough, but tell people how to find it online because I don't know the web address all the top of my head. Oh yeah, no, you're right.
Sorry, No, it's say it's freeworld dot fm and we should take you to the homepage and uh yeah, they have a chat and everything in there, right, and that's the that's audio mainly, right, it's only audio for the time being. Yeah, okay, so only audio free World FM and Naughty by Nature replays over there, and that's a Nature boy, you know, the guy whose voice is still here onochelly dot com. And uh yeah, So anyway, I appreciate that. And how many minutes do we
have left here? Bpete? Uh? We got oh crap, We're almost out of time. So you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna open up the lines and tell everybody who is on here that I appreciate all of you for calling in and more than happy to have had you join us. And coming up next right here at ten pm Eastern is going to be the Age of Transitions with Aaron Franz live on Ouchelli dot Com Radio and be Pete. Normally I would turn it over to you and give you the last word,
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