The Ochelli Effect 3-22-2024 Open Mic

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You listening to us, and if you're hearing it, uh, let's say we've gone to air about nine and a half minutes past the hour of eight o'clock on the eastern part of what we used to call the United States, and therefore, if you're hearing us at that time, it's live. Otherwise it's a podcast and you won't be able to call in because it is the open mic. Three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six three one nine five two seven five zero one six. I almost don't

feel confident in that number at the moment. I'll tell you it's been a weird week. Three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six Really quickly, you know what. We didn't put out a lot of podcasts. I was on with the New Prisoners one night I did a show and then had to skip to and why because I had to have a technician come

out and replace my router today. So the good news was that I found a new home for one of the puppies, so it was a lady technician came out for Cox Cable and took home the last puppy from the one batch. So now we got honeys puppies, which are actually up on YouTube and on other video platforms now cause I put the camera on the puppies during the New Prisoners. So there you go. Everybody got to watch the puppies feeding off a honey puppy on my video feed. That's that. Okay, It's

been a weird week and it's gonna get weirder next week. We're gonna have the third part because I've actually done an intentional series on the Octopus. Charlie Robinson will join me next week to do that, and there's gonna be some

other stuff coming up next week and the following week hopefully. Been in contact with some people I promised to be in contact with and been rejected and pushed aside by some people that I thought I could get on the show Weird anyway, whatever it is it is, but you can be part of the show really easily just by dialing in or reaching out to me via Skype. I'm Charles dot o'helly on Skype three poe nine five two seven five zero one six.

Anybody can call in throw anything on the table they want because it's the Friday Night open mic, and I don't care what my opinion is. Matter of fact, I don't think I'm going to express my opinion any longer on Friday Night. I might just ask questions on occasions. That's my new attitude with this, and we'll see how it works or doesn't. Anyway, my co host p Pete is with me and we have an additional uh surprise here at the beginning of the show. I got Captain Trips on the line immediately.

So first I'm gonna check in with Bpte, see how he's doing, and let him hand it over to Captain Trips. Be beat. What's on your mind this week? Oh, nothing much. We're in the middle of the start of NCAA tournament, so I've been distracted the past two days. Go ahead and let you know my bracket crash yesterday when Kentucky couldn't beat a fourteen seed. I swear to God. Other than that, we're waiting for

the rain to come in and wash away about four weeks of pollen. It hasn't been washed away yet, so we're just praying for a nice two inches in Georgia. In Georgia we got we got rain and polland in Georgia. So it's like pollend slime in Georgia at this point, because it's not enough rain to wash it all the way, but enough rain to make it like slimy. Yeah, everything turns into a paste and then after it sits there for a few days it looks like snot. It's really starting to get on

it. It's a bad year. And I don't know if it's because our winter was warmer and maybe a little wetter than normal, but the pollen output this year is unbelievable. It's terrible. But other I mean, catch it up on the news of the day. We've got a concert venue in Moscow that got attacked and a bunch of people did and hurt and bombs going off, and we got Candae Owens was fired by the the Wire Dailey Wire because

of her spat with Ben Shapiro. What else have we got? Oh, yes, we passed this massive budget supposedly today that they got at two thirty in the morning and had to rush to pass. You know, you remember all these pledges about giving us seventy two hours to see something online before it hits the fans. So you know when all those Republicans out there, yes Republicans, to pay attention to the amount of inflation that you guys just threw

on top of everything else. This has got one and a half trillion dollars worth of borrowing in it, and eventually someone's gonna have to pay the interest. So think about that when you think your paycheck's hurting. Now just watch only. I thought, yeah, the promises are cutting crap. I'll tell you part of the reason why we went to air nine minutes late is you were telling me about some of the line items in this thing, which cracks

me up because usually that's attributed to the Democratic side of the equation. I remember years ago in the eighties. I'm trying to think if it was eighty six or eighty eight, when I read a line item about studying the masturbation habits of a certain animal, some animal I never heard of, and studying when they masturbate, and trying to think of how it is they and you know, how do you acquire a study like that to begin with. I mean you might be able to acquire the animals, you might have a zoo,

you know all that. But you were telling me about some of the line items that weren't quite as outrageous, but still silly. You want to talk about a couple of those because you help me up there a couple of minutes getting live here, it's all that's not my fault. Don't blame me, I said, you're patiently waiting for the phone to go off. So I was five minutes later by myself. Remember I said that people would look

for return grants for more more money. Well, the one you just mentioned in this budget, uh the well, I think it was in the budget pass. The National Science Foundation, who we keep doubling of money for every year to do all this stuff, studied whether Japanese quail on cocaine were more promiscuous than Japanese quail that weren't on cocaine. So you see, it's an ongoing thing. It's just a different twist to the study. Then these things

keep getting funded into, you know, perpetuity. The one I brought up before we went to air was then the NIAAA and I'm not sure what organization that is spent one hundred thousand dollars to study whether sunfish that drank tequila were more aggressive than sunfish that dranksin huh, you know, and both two instances of animals utilizing substances that are generally thought of as partaking up by human beings. Interesting, How is it that you like what that purpose? Sorry?

Good, well, I think a lot of that. You know, you can't experiment on people anymore, you know, certain groups just throw their hands up over that. So I guess you have to find a species this is closely related to humans in the aspects that are pertinent to that study. Like I guess sunfish are better to tell the effects of alcohol, you know, and apparently Japanese quail are better to test the effects of cocaine when it comes

to promiscuity. So I'm sure you've got to fit the proper species to whatever test it is you're trying to prove, whatever theory you're trying to prove. How would avian or you know, aquatic species of animal have anything. I mean, it's not like you're geting a human result out of this. Aquatic animals are clearly not going to even exist in the same world they they breathe water. I mean, come on, what you know, and we don't

fly. Somehow, somehow you're testing the effects of the alcohol on certain receptors in the fish that are linked to aggression. So I don't know how they do it. I don't know. Actually we were laughing. How do you make it? How do you get a fish to drink? You know? And what's what? How big is a shot for a fish? I know how big a shot is for me, and if they're skimming me at the bar, and uh can raise hell appropriately, but when it comes to fish,

that's a tricky thing. And who knows. Maybe it's the Japanese quail. It's got a certain chemical that reacts to something else in the brain and that's why they choose those to somehow linked promiscuity to cocaine use. Yeah, but quail lack an opposable thumb for a crack pipe. And also I'm not sure if they've gotten the proper nostrils to put the dollar bill up to to snort up a line. So, I mean, how is it you're going to get a quail to take cocaine? They got they got a beat,

They got a build ten dollar bill. Okay, okay, look, I'm not thinking like this because I can't far. I don't know. Hey, look for scientific and medical advice. Though. We could turn to Captain Trips here and uh, you know, Captain Trips, how is it that you get a quail high en up, I mean and flying under the influence of cocaine? Do you know anything about that? Or how do you get a fish to drink? You got any ideas about this, Captain Trips, I have to say that no, I am, I'm, I'm, I'm.

I just don't even know what to say anymore, to be quite honest with you, Captain Trips did not have this on his Bengo card for tonight's show. But it's a no. I just I just don't know fair enough.

I just figured I'd pose the question to you though, anyway, So be beat anything else or before we find out what is actually on Captain Trip's mind, before we go to the callers or whoever next, Just one thing, you know, before we mentioned and somebody announced they were stepping down and when we were off air, right before the show started, and to answer Championship's question, Mike Gallagher a Republican in Wisconsin. He's going to actually resign like

next month, so he's not even finished out his term. So that leaves Republicans with like a leverage of one seat for their mature Okay, because Buck of Colorado also said he wasn't gonna run for reelection, So why this guy leaven early? That leaves the Republicans with a majority of one. Well, it seems to me like there's gonna be a ton of non returning, you know, incumbents in this cycle. I don't know why, but I have this idea in my mind that there's a bunch of them that said, look,

I'm just not going to run again. In both parties it was. I don't think it was just Republicans. There were quite a few Democrats I had heard come out. I mean, let's let's be honest. It's a sinking ship. They're trying. They're just rafts jumping off the deck. You know. Well, they don't want to be responsible for what's going to happen next year. It's like, look, I'm gonna get out now, I

can already are. Of course they are, but they'll claim you know, uh deniability, of course, you know, so uh but That's that's always the game is can they claim deniability? Hey, listen, I left you know, I'm no longer see that way when they become a pundit on CNN or something, they can sit there and go, look, I'm not in the Congress right now. I can tell you what it would look like if I was there, but of course I'm not because now I'm just sitting here

waiting for you guys to call me. Yep, yeah, funny stuff, which which, by the way, Uh look for me on Blaze TV next Friday. Now I'm not going to say what time or whose show, but I will be on Blaze TV next Friday. So yikes. I don't know why they have not given me the agenda, and I know I'm not talking to Glenn Beck, but other than that, I don't know who Shalman all right, anyway, I'll leave it at that. But yeah, just just

speaking of people getting weird phone calls to go on TV anyhow. This is what's going on, though, is these guys are gonna drop out, They're gonna take a little breather, they're gonna kick back, and then sometimes they return to politics, right they come back around and run again or they decide to change. You know, they've been in the House of Representatives, they've had five terms there, ten years in the House. Well, now they'll go for a Senate seat, or they'll go for the governor, you know,

or God help us all. You know, they might enter into the presidency and then we end up with Joe Biden or something, you know, because he was the congress person and all that and then senator right and then wound up being VP, et cetera. Anyway, lots of news there, or maybe not so much news. It's all kind of a grown up the white noise guy. Maybe either one of you can answer it, or maybe

whoever you know first calls in, maybe they can answer it. But just a general question, Now, what was the problem when Obama ran that he had to settle on Joe Biden as vice president? Because I know Hillary thought that it was her turn and Obama just swept in out of left field, took the spotlight, ended up getting a nomination. How the hell did they

decide on Joe Biden? Oh, I can give you the easy analysis on that, but but I'd like Captain Trips take crack out at first if he once I actually don't remember, to be quite honest with you, now that you're saying it that that is kind of odd. Yeah, it was. It was it was her turn and then she got herself trounced. Yeah,

I remember. I'm really happy to go back because that was what two thousand and seven sixty seven that was happening, because I remember his prior plagiarism and all I thought would come back, and you know, it's like, look, dude, this guy ran on his own and we didn't want anything to do with him. What makes you think we want him as vice president?

Now? Knowing full well Obama being the first black president and things that were going on in the world, and suddenly Obama's pension for wanting to, you know, take people out for driving while droned. He uh, I do. I don't understand it. Did something happen during the primary or was it that because Bernie got burnt and even before Hillary burned him? What is it

that ended up giving us Joe Biden? And I can't remember it. I've been going through some old clips and stuff trying to figure it out, and I cannot figure it out. How the hell we ended up with him? Well, to me, it's pretty simple. But go ahead, well, go ahead. And the only thing, the only thing I remember, and I don't think this is probably the actual reason. All I remember is Obama saying something about how Biden was a mentor to him when he was you know,

he he briefly a senator. But I don't I don't remember there. I mean, I'm sure there was horse trading, but I don't recall it, to be quite honest with you. Yeah, okay, so the obvious horse trading wasn't the main feature here. See, the Democrats had not been dispossessed of the idea yet that you know, somehow Hillary was going to be popular with women. They had this idea that she was this popular figure somehow,

I don't know why. You know, seemingly women that were progressive were going to like her, right, it was only the establishment right that hated her. Now, you got to remember that Bush was a well supported president at this point. People had started to get a little angry at the War on Terror, but not much. Yeah, so he was still kind of like, you know, the president to support. So it was about maintaining establishment. Now Obama had no experience. According to most people, that was

going to be an easy vulnerability for him. Where's his experience, right, He's got no experience in part policies, got very little experience in government. What is he a community organizer? Nothing? So the idea was to add Vanilla Joe to the equation to say, look, somebody is going to be

there to advise him about the way things really work. He was meant to be like the babysitter to make everybody feel better so they wouldn't be as nervous about the radical aspect of Obama. So that was just meant to shore up that one part because Obama was easier, way easier to market than Hillary. Nobody likes that woman, nobody ever has. I don't know how she. Somebody ought to look into how the hell it is she got to be the senator from New York, because I mean, I don't know how the hell

I never understood that. Good. Pat Mooynan set that aside, for she had heard ties. Remember she was a lawyer that was on the what the Democrat House side? What a journey impeachment? And so her ties went way. Patrick boynihan bowed out to give her seat, But even so to actually have her selected on a ballot, it makes no sense to me because I knew people in New York at the time. Nobody I knew was like,

yeah, Hillary, you know, you could not find enthusiastics. So I should have known this in twenty sixteen when she ran for president and the burning of Bernie still wasn't all that big at that point. He hadn't caught the momentum like he would some years later after the Obama administration, because the Obama administration was seen as a left victory, you know, by the right especially, but even on the left right it was a big, huge victory.

We actually got a black man elected, you know, and and therefore they had that leverage for eight years of you know, criticize him, We'll call you a racist. I mean I even suffered from that trying to write as a writer. I got it's a whole story. But the thing is that, you know, criticizing Obama was like, you did that and you had the wrong skin tone. You were a bad guy. Uh. You had to have the complexion for the connection in order to be able to criticize Obama.

So that was that. But the thing is, marketability wise, he was he was smoother, he was quick with a quip, he was intelligence sounding, he was a lot more marketable. He was a hell of a lot more attractive as a candidate than Hillary was. And he was also he was also unknown. That was the he didn't have he didn't have, I mean, the his the not having the history, I think worked for him.

I think it was a risk that they did it, but in the end, I think it actually worked for him because there really was no history on the mame right. And that's the thing is that Biden was meant to be the counterbalance there. Okay, we got a guy with no history, we got a guy with no experience, but he's good, he's smart, he can do the job and don't worry, Grandpa Joe will watch out for him and advice so he doesn't do anything, you know, too radical.

So that was gonna be the idea there. Yeah. And I think the other thing that Burnt Burnt missed my turn was she voted for the Iraq War, and the Iraq War had really fallen out of popularity, even though Bush did retain some popularity down toward the toward the end of his second term. I mean, he even he went from a ridiculously popular president and then after Katrina and after the whole Iraq War was a real everyone realized it was a

disaster. Well on the left, yeah, I mean he he kind of you know, helped them out a lot with that whole you know, mission accomplished landing on the oh yeah, you know, aircraft carrier and all that. But it was on the left, true. But in general in the country again, the country is not left. It is not you know, it is definitely not left. It's not a leftist country. So, but the but on the left yet the Iraq War, like if you were listening

to entertainers back there, everybody's like, George Bush is terrible. George Bush is terrible, George Bush is Nazi. I remember, you know, cartoons of comedians back then when it was like here's what pe Goldberg doing, stand up? George Bush is awful, and people would laugh, you know, and it was like, yeah, that's about the level of intelligence she had in her act at that point, and you know, her the Robin Williams

is of the world. All that leftist comedian stuff was like anti Bush, and the actual left at that time, which is irrecognizable from what you see today, was against Bush. But in general the country was still with him. The country was still about, you know, looking for that stability and still wanting to be you know, you're talking two thousand and eight, right, So two thousand and eight, it's still pretty fresh in our minds nine

to eleven, it's still we're still with that attitude. Yeah, the Iraq War might have been a mistake, but even back then, it wasn't as big a mistake as it would be seen later by the majority of the population the way I see it anyway, But I but I easy see what the deal was. Biden was an establishment vanilla, had always been there. Certainly was part of everything the Crime Bill. He couldn't have been qualified as a leftist because he voluntarily wanted to you know, lock up people during the Crime

Bill thing. Right, he was on that side of the equation, so he could be seen as a left establishment figure to balance out Obama's possible wildcard attributes. That's what it was. He was there to be a safety and Hillary as per usual. They had not learned the lesson yet until twenty sixteen.

That she's just a despicable, unlikable and unrelatable creature. I mean, that's all I remember in twenty fourteen when she was getting ready for the twenty sixteen run up, and she immediately put her foot in her mouth saying, you know, if you're a woman in your vote against Hillary Clinton and you're not really a woman. And it was like, ooh, what are you? This is not the thing you say in the twenty teens? What is wrong with you? Not? You know, dictated to by their genitals as

far as their voting goes. You know, if you said that in the eighties, you might have got away with it. You said it in the seventies, you might have got away with it, nineties maybe, But by the twenty teens, no, no, no, no, no, you just put your foot in your mouth. And believe me, even leftists went, ew, what is wrong with you? Out of touch? And that's what she was, completely out of touch and why because she had no idea

that nobody liked her. She was not like you know, that's the other problem here is that part of it is a popularity contest, right, so even to have enthusiasm beyond display out there, you know that that's the one thing that's absolutely legitimate about like the whole Trump movement is that there are people that legitimately like him. You know, I love them. They love him to death. They are buying. But you know, it has surprised me.

Some of the people that has interviewed Trump or been around him for years, have known him for years, and they all talk like, you know, on a personal level, the guy is great. He's funny. You know, he's very generous, He's very easy going. I've never heard generous from it. Okay, oh yeah, but I've heard several people make that comment about him, things that he's done to help people out in the past.

Wow. But I mean, but that's Trump. You're you know, you're you've got to have the Trump that the nation is out there beating their heads against the wall over and then. I'm sure he's totally different away from the cameras and just him being himself. But he's like every other politician. He thrives on the attention. So I don't know of any politician that doesn't.

That's how they get elected, I don't. Untunately, not too many other politicians would have the unmitigated gall to sell you rubber duckies made in their likeness, though. I mean, and literally you can go the Trump twenty twenty four store. I get the emails, all the time, and the rubber ducky. I've been passing around the picture of it. It's a literal rubber ducky, like you know, the exaggerated Trump hair and like, you know seriously that that is one of the products. And we talked about the

Trump and ader bablehead and personality. People will buy that. It's like I got Obama toilet paper in my restroom. You know. People buy that stuff just to have it. They collect things, let's put it that way. So, yeah, you know, the guy's running for president, he's got a bobblehead. Okay, does he have a decent looking babblehead. That's the trick. But Hillary, on the other hand, I can't remember what was going on at the time. I mean, she wasn't going to take a

vice president slot because she felt like she should be where Obama was. It was her turn. She paid her she had done her time as Secretary of State. Well, I'm trying to think who else they had in the fold that they could have gone to that left us with what we see today as our president. I mean, that's the only reason he's president is because he was vice president and actually president. Because I think they I think they knew

how cognitively in there he was. I really do, and I think they wanted to use him because they tried that, Oh, we're going to return to the you know, the the adults. The adults are now back in charge. Yeah, really, really well, But I don't you know, I don't know. I've actually given up on reading the tea leaves. I there's no difference on a second trip to run for president, but there's a

big difference trips. There's a huge difference between why it is they really install somebody and what it is they're selling that person as right, Biden was being sold as the adult in the room, as you mentioned. I know, it doesn't make any sense when you're take an honest look at the guy. But then again taking a look at you know, Obama was going to bring us hope and change, and you know things were going to be different.

You know Obama, he had he had to bite his tongue. I would think Obama and the type of person that he was, and the narcissist that he was, that he would have allowed a racist like Joe Biden to be his vice president. That's the part I don't understand. Well. Biden at that time was known to be one of the most bigoted people in the Senate. I don't understand how he got to where he's at and how party can I mean because Obama. If it wasn't for Obama making him his vice president,

he wouldn't have been elected president. I mean, he had to bite his lift, I think, to accept that racist bastard is his underling. Yeah, but the thing is this, though Biden wasn't being sold as a racist. Biden was being sold as the opposite of a racist, which is usually what you do. You sell the racist guy as what the ultra liberal. That's usually the best way to go right. And you're also assuming that Obama really had principles well, and he was useful, but again he's still

super useful as an establishment figure. And back then Joe Biden wasn't he and considerable as as a candidate on his own. I got honey barking and everything. Now, Uh so what I'm gonna do is kill my mic and uh and bring on a caller, be Pete, Okay, because I got a straighten out the dog thing here. But I'm gonna grab a callar. We got a few of them on the line. Okay, Well, that's happen.

Are you there? Give me James, it's here. I think this chuck Chuck muted himself to take care of the little canine canine issue, but he said he was bringing on a caller, which I guess is Jimmy James. Yeh, Jimmy, how are you doing? What's on your mind tonight? Oh? Just listening to the conversation. Uh, let's see. So Uh, I'm actually interested. I just want to listen right now. So fair enough, fair enough, I'll move on to another caller. Jimmy will bring you back on. Okay, Ah, crap, Honey, went at

it again. Hold on, We'll get another caller and I'll shut off my mic again. Jimmy expected more from you right off the bat, especially with the conversation about the drinking fish. I was hoping maybe you could explain how you get a fish to drink. You know, at this point, I think I should. I think I'm just gonna start focusing on intoxicating on intoxicating aquatic life. Yeah, I feel like giving a shot of booze to the dog. But we have a new caller on the line. You're a live

who are we speaking with? Yeah, I'm just I'm just a stock. Oh hey, Harlan, how are you doing nothing? I said, I jumped in here, and you know, see what the conversation how it was going to that stare a little shit and see what I can get Jimmy for it us about well, I'm wrong, I'm back on the Trump train.

Now, I'm on officially back on the Trump train. I had a friend of mine today said he was getting some new advertising griff going on at a a Trump store in the East Tennessee, and he said that if I would, you know, record a little commercial that said, you know, I'm arling Stonewall and I proved this grift, you know, he'd give me half his money and go out and tell everybody, you know, I'm back over on the Trump train and everythings since now I'm getting paid, you know,

to be on it, you know, like always other ship they dos for the last six years. But I did want to announce that here publicly into the world that I am officially back on the Trump train. I'm like a lot of people, you know, it's worked for Trump the past. I'm still waiting on my money, but it just ain't been that long. Give him the chains, you know. I'm just sitting back here, and if trust to plan to the to the money just goes to raining from the sky.

Awesome. You need to collect that check, Harland, all right, uh so Harlan officially back on. I remember we're talking, we're talking about the Orange Jesus. You know Orange Jesus. You couldn't take a check from him. You need cash, you know, where a bank war. But you know anyway, you know, if he did send you a bank war, you'd probably get charged the for for out. You know, because everybody you know, if ever had anything to do with if him, they get

it in my ice maned up in jail or so. So cash, pieces of silver or cryptocurrency are all acceptable. Yeah, well, you know he should have his own crypto currency. I think, you know a couple of years ago that he should I actually have his own crypto cuarancy because you know, if she's think about it, votes and I'm being serious, really make some money. Because if somebody go out here for after looking at his trip, to look at his shoes, I don't think I want to trust it

within. But you know what that coin, if somebody made a Trump coin, I promise you this, it would work. Yes, it would and I would. I would probably dump some money into it and get out of it quickly because I could see something like that spiking up and then then completely collapsing. But if you kind it right, you might be able to make some cash. Absolutely, Harlan, Harlan, you need to stop giving away your best ideas. I'm putting you on hold for a sec. But that

is the greatest thing I've heard on this show in months. Hold on, Harlan, because there's other callers, so I want to know, is anybody look, I would probably take money into the Trump crypto coin because I guarantee it would make money for six months. Okay, so in those first six months I would get in on it. I mean, even if you got one hundred bucks to throw in on it. It's sort of like when I got offered bitcoin for eighty bucks a pop. I should have done it,

Okay. Anyway, another caller here and nine one six alive. Danny, Yah, Danny, How is everybody doing doing? Okay? Danny? I don't know why nobody else is answering you, but I'm off and on the mic here, no worries. All sorry doing doing well? I had walked away and I was mute, No worry. Yeah, they you guys were talking about Hillary. And one thing that the biggest problem that I saw with her whole campaign was her inability and even a lot of the Democrats their inability

of her self reflection because she just ran two horrible campaigns. I mean, somebody who knew it from her husband that there was a you know, they had a lot of enemies, and you know, she made a lot of mistakes, you know, like you know, through all the Benghazi investigations. You know, she's got the private server, which you know that was the damage her politically, and she goes off and going to Goldman Sacks. They won't release the well d transcripts. Danny, let me let me interrupt your

your dad, Let me disrupt your train of thought. Let me just disrupt your training thought on this for a second, because in two thousand and eight, I don't think the DNC had realized how hated Hillary really was, how undesirable of a candidate she really was. Just yet in two thousand and eight, I think they were still under the delusion that she was marketable, even by a connection to the popularity of her husband, because her husband was still

seen as you know, what we live better. When Bill Clinton was in office, a lot of people had said that, you know, times are better, My money went further, I could afford things when Bill Clinton was in office. So people thought that she was a desirable candidate because she was marketed back then as being part of the decision making process, right. She

was, you know, part of Billy's Billy Boy's intellectual set. Even though he didn't want to go near her with you know, anything that had to do with naked time, he definitely was using her as an advisor in some people's minds. So she was seen as still a desirable candidate in two thousand and eight, and they didn't realize yet that nobody could relate to her as a creature. She wasn't even seen as humanized among people. And they didn't get it in two thousand and eight, just yet. What do you think

about that? I think you're right because as she ran and they looked at Obama like you said, he was a nobody, and he ran a good campaign. And remember the comedies went into free fall, you know, the stock market crash and the comedy the House of Cards was collapsing, and a lot of that had to do was with her husband administration, collaborating with all the deregulation the financial industry. I mean it was it was coming home. It came home to roos So and she wouldn't give it up. And it

did not make her look good. She was looking for a miracle and Obama was beating the socks off of her and it just didn't make her look good at all. And I think that left it bad, you know, just left her vulnerable. Right, makes sense? Right? And Biden again, I say, was the was the easy vanilla balance? And uh, you know, Danny, I'm gonna I'm gonna switch over to somebody else here because

we got two other colors behind you. But I'm gonna come back around to everybody, So stick around on the lines, all of you that want to get stuff in. And Jimmy James didn't even get off the starting block, but I bet you she's got some thoughts now, so I'm gonna put you on hold. And then we got let's see another wireless caller, uh, not identified, and I don't think it's Harlan again, but maybe I'm mixing it up. Let's see, is this Harlan again or is this that?

Oh okay, that's my wrong wireless caller. Hold on, Harlan, I'm gonna put you back on hold. See I'm getting a little mixed up here. Oh, there it is. Here's another wireless caller. Actually, this is a totally unidentified caller. Uh three five two area code. You're alive to Christs from Florida. How are you doing? Chris from Florida. Yes, I hear you. Okay, I just accidentally turned myself up a little too loud there, but Chris, Yes, yep, we hear you.

I finally from Florida. I thought it was just me. There you go, Captain Trips and Chris both calling from Florida, or as Captain Trips calls it. Uh, what is it? De Santa Stan? Is that what you call Disanta Stan? Yes? Happy to be in the street that actually has a metal sign that says that I can't help but chuckle every time I drive past it. What part of what are you from? If I may ask? Oh, I'm up, I'm in the northeast. I'm pant of Bedri Beach to south of Jacksonville. Okay, I'm okay, okay, all

right, you know, yeah, far off. According to a lot of metrics, on the Podcatchers. We do have a lot of listeners in Florida, so I'm surprised sometimes you guys don't run into each other. Honestly, it's weird. There's a lot in we probably do don't realize Florida and California. Oddly enough, I have a fair concentration of listeners in both places and sometimes Texas, but not always anyway, just saying it's one of those weird things. So what's on your mind tonight, Chris, Oh, quite honestly,

not too much realistic. I was I was trying to catch your last tream online and where I live in the forest, I don't really have a internet provider to rely on, uh so I have to rely on my cell phone. And I was trying to catch your live stream on your Llilly dot com and I was getting the previous episode, so I really don't have anything to chime in on at the moment. I was just going to catch episodes.

Yeah, I understand, I totally understand. You know what. I was actually knocked out part of the week and had to have Cox come in and switch out my router even because the router totally crapped out on me. This week, so I did not do too many live shows. But yeah, so it's a lot of repeats on the stream, but we've got stuff on there twenty four hours a day. It's just that I can only put

up the newest stuff when I make new stuff. And we will be followed at ten pm Eastern tonight by Aaron Franz with the age of transitions everybody, So that'll be live. But anyway, Chris, if you don't have something that you really want to add in here, you don't want to talk about the balance of Joe Biden and Obama in the past and how that actually worked out, which leads to him being electable as a president only because he was

vice president under Obama. I'm a quite frankly, That's that's where we're at. But if you got something you don't then I'll move on to the next caller and maybe we can get back around to everybody. What do you think, Chris, No, And the only thing I can say to that is it's pretty much the same. Uh, it's the same. It's you know, they call him what is it, o Biden? You know they call him that for a reason. You know, it's the same administration. But

that from that. That's all I really had to see if you want to move on and move on and I'll just continue listening for the meantime. Yeah, we'll do that. And the Obiden thing I remember famously was first uttered by what was that? God? Why does her name always slip my mind? But I can see her face and I remember the McCain's running mate there in uh that one year, uh, the governor of Sarah Palin. I can always see her face, and I remember her saying stuff, and I

remember Tina Fey. I think it was doing the impression of her, but I think she was the first one to say O Biden accidentally mixing up you know, Obama and Biden together, and people have run with that ever after. Funny funny stuff to me. But anyway, let's see. Oh look, we got another familiar caller on the line, so I'm gonna bring him on. And I think we got advanced with us. So a couple of guest suggestions coming from Vance recently and I am working on those vans. We'll

see what happens. But anyway, what's on your mind tonight? Brother? Just say most sa mo, how are y'all? You know we're doing it. We're having to talk about the past and how it is that Biden got added to the Obama ticket and how despicable and dislikable Hillary Clinton was. But the Democrats didn't quite face that reality in two thousand and eight just yet, but they did later. I mean, you know, what are you gonna do? But you know, Obama was more marketable. Alabama was definitely more

marketable, and he did that. You know, what did you say, be Pete about driving well droned or what driving all drone strike or something? Well, you know you're back. I guess it was what in the seventies when you started hearing about driving while black and the interested Well, you know,

Obama was famous for droning people, so you know it's fitting. Yet, Yeah, liberal use of the drone strike, you know, mechanism there as an executive for sure by Obama, which was funny because Nobel Peace Prize that was another fun part of his whole thing, right as soon as he gets in there. Pretty much when did they give him the Peace Prize? I got to look that up. They gave him the Peace Prize before he

even got into office. Really, yeah, I don't even think he'd been inaugurated yet, Yeah, they gave him the prize and then he turns around and pulling stuff like this. I mean, basically, he proved that if the government wants to take you out, all they have to do is wait for you to get in the car and go somewhere and they'll take you out. You know, it's amazing you can kill Americans overseas without any due process whatsoever. Oh yeah, anyway, Yeah, I'm gonna look that up though,

just to check on it. But anyway, Vance, I'm sure you got something else on your mind aside from this. If you want to drop it in, go ahead. We might go to a quick break and then go back around through the line on the phone lines, because we got like six people on the line right now. Yeah cool, I can wait till after break or whatever, you know, six minutes, ex minutes or whatever. And I've encouraged one of the commenters on your episode on TNP the other

day to call in tonight, so maybe he'll call it. Maybe he's one of them. Ah, that would be good. Look. New callers definitely welcome, more than happy to hear from them. Old callers too. Anybody please call in, drop anything you want on there, I did the puppy cam again, a different set of puppies from what I did with Tee Snyder. As I think I already mentioned this at the top of the show.

Never mind, but I got yeah, Honey's puppies are out online. And I ended up giving one of the other puppies to the lady that came from Cox Cable to swap out my router because my router had gone and taken a you know, taking a ad crap to bed here. So it was done for apparently you can only have him two years or a year and a half now, and then you got to replace him. So this is why I

rent my equipment as supposed to continuously buy in these stupid things. Anyways, So all right, Nancy, you know what, I will put you on hold. B Pete, anything that we need to address before we go to break. Yes, Duke is ahead fifty to forty four over Vermont in their opening game. Oh that good little sports update from B Pete. Let's see Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize October. Let's see October eighteen looks like October eighteen of two thousand and nine. Whoa okay, okay, So that will have

been into his first year. Yeah, so before the end of his first year, before the end of his first term, because yeah, he would have taken office. Okay, if he was selected in eight then he would have taken office in nine right January, and therefore nine months later Peace Prize. Yeah. Uh face shifter wants to remind us about black Irish and uh yeah, I don't know why, but maybe that's got something to do with Obama. Although I gotta say, I'm not sure if his mom was Irish.

I don't. I don't know if she was, she might have been. Well, you say what you want. I'm never going to get the picture of Obama and mom jeans out of my head. I mean, he was just such a twink. I just can't believe it. I think she may have been done him. Was her last name? Wasn't it done Him? Yeah? Irish, wasn't it? Wasn't it Stanley in Dunham. Wasn't his mother's name, which I think is an iris I think that's an Irish name, Yeah it is. Yeah, but let's see Obama's mother's name.

I don't know. Maybe that's yes Stanley and Dunham, yes, gotta say. And also, you know, I know this doesn't count for anything, but quite frankly, they got a picture of her when she was very young, and she definitely looks like a young Irish girl who New York was an American anthropologist to specialize in economic anthropology and world development of Indonesia. She was the mother of Barack Obama. I don't know what was her ethnicity, Dunham.

She's Irish. Well, you know, she's white. She's as white as you can get, pretty much. Although you know, some people would say that Irish people are not you know, white, but that's okay. But the same people would would call me an Afro Italian for me Sicilian. He was raised raised don't you remember his comments in the one speech he gave where his grandmother was afraid to walk down the street, you know, with

a with a black man. And I'm sitting here thinking, okay, let's just trash your whole white side of your family so you can embrace that blackness. And the people forgot that he's half and half. He's a zebra. Let's see. I promised to promised Land his new memoir, Promised Land. I'm looking back at an article. I don't know, I'm trying to look. I don't see anybody. Let's see about the diverse family on one side.

His reaction too, and students at the universe. He has met his students at the University of Hawaii. Okay, the book The Bold and Reckless Life of President Obama's Father and the two we came all right, anyway, I was just trying to figure out what her ethnicity is is categoryrised as and it's just white anyway? What can you do? White people is just not

I don't know. I don't like it as a descriptor because it just says to me, you know, first of all, we don't know how to cook too well, probably don't know how to dance, and we get sunburned. Uh. And I've got some of that in me. I know that, but uh, you know I I I thank my walking up right God that I've got some Sicilian in me to balance it out. But you know, nothing wrong with be in whatever you are. And I say, celebrate it all. And we're going to try to do that on the show tonight.

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that is equally interesting but still coherent with the rest of the show. Anyway, Friday Night open Mic, it's not about me, It's actually about you. The callers three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six. We got a bunch of them on the line, and I will get around everybody before we're done, for sure. Uh. And they can kick around anything they want or tail on to whatever's being discussed as we go through it. So with that, b Pete dug up a piece of information.

During the break, we'll hear from Captain Tripps and then we'll get back around to those waiting online in order best I can based on what I see on my switchboards. So, b Pete, what was that piece of information that I missed last segment? Oh, I thought you had her Wikipedia page

of it. I was going to say if you'd kept scrolling down and says that she was predominantly of English ancestry, with small amounts of Scottish, Welsh, Irish German and Swiss German, and that wild Bill Hitcock was her sixth cousin five times removed and ancestry calm announced on July thirty, twenty twelve, after using a combination of old documents of why DNA analysis, that Dunham's mother was descended from John Punch, an enslaved African Man who lived in the seventeenth

century Colonial Virginia seventeenth centuries the sixteen hundreds. For those that don't have a calculator, there you go, there you go. So with that in mind, let's see Captain Trips. You got anything you want to add in before we go back around, because you mentioned while Bill Hickcock, I think we might have somebody somehow ancestrally linked to Jesse James. Doesn't that name sound familiar when you think about one of our regular callers, and he'll be the first

one up when we go to the phone line. But before we go there, Captain Trips, did you have something you wanted to add? Well, I'll bring up that segment that I are, that piece that I said before I did. One thing I am grateful for Barack Obama for was prior to you know, I got into politics right after nine to eleven and the Republicans were in control of everything, and we had the war. So I you know, I naively thought, I naively took the man at his word.

Didn't take long for me to realize that, like you said, all he was was Bush dark right, So good wake up call? Yeah, the peace president exactly? Yes, yes, so be beat. Anything else before we go back to the phones. Well, I was reading the headline here. Interesting thing out in California. This apparently they passed a new law that

says that you cannot show mug shots to see. County form of police department published suspect images with lego heads instead of faces in response to a new woke state law that prohibits law enforcement agencies from posting mug shots of people accused of nonviolent offenses on social media. So to get around it, they put the mug shot up with a lego head on top of the picture to cover the face of the end individual. Wait, they put a lego head on a

mug shot? Really? Yeah, because they can't show the mug shots. They've got a new law. They can't show blugshots of suspects for non violent offenses. Okay, because a coup of ice fell all over the place in front of me over here. I missed part of that was that in California? Yes, yes, it was if they list the city. Yeah. The murray Atta Police Department has found a comedic way to comply with the new law and issued a series of arrest photos which consist of lego heads with a

variety of facial expressions photoshopped over the faces of suspects. Wow, okay, Well, it's gonna get really weird if they start trying to adjust ethnicity on the lego heads, because most of them are yellow. But if you start, you know, only using the yellow ones for Asians, let's say, and then you start using a black magic marker, or you start bleaching them, or it might get really weird. I'm just saying, and people might

start calling racist Legos. Maybe Legos will be racist next. I'm just everything else. Everything else is Sonny is what else? What else did I hear was racist? I've got a list I'm starting. I'll have to go back and look at it. Isn't there some racist candy bars? Wasn't I read? Yeah? I think I read an article a couple months ago about that racist candy bars. Do you remember which ones they were? No, I have to I'll have to refer back to my list. Is that the same

list that we've got Jamie on? Oh? Wait, I wasn't supposed to say that. Well, I don't know anyway. Three Musketeers maybe is racist because it's all white guys. But then again, you know, I don't know. Is it is Mike and Ike? Are they? Is that white people names? I'm not Mike. I thought they were supposed to be Irish or something. Well, yeah, but at one time, you know, again, the Irish were we're not seen as you know, the totally a

totally human class of white people. It was weird. So I don't know, you know, it depends tough time people are going to be able to connect red hots to some Satanic group. So you know, it's just a matter of time. It could be. It could be. I mean, do you think the box is green just because of the Irish? You know connection? Is that what the deal is? Everything that's Irish has to be green. What ethnicity would lemonheads be? Ooh, I don't know. Oh

maybe they're gay. M that's interesting, like Burton Ernie because you know when I passed around the regularity. But to research that, well, look, if somebody wants to do the research on it, let us know. I mean, anything with fludge, if it's packed into a uh, you know, a tube or something. I mean, could be also Anyway, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. Let's just go to the callers, bring them up. Yep. So jj am I imagining things? Or are

you somehow related to Jesse James? I am? There you go, there, you go. A lot of us have interesting people in our family trees. Gotta say, Jesse James, that's a good one though. I like that one. You know, he's one of the better. Wait a minute, Jesse James the wait, Jesse James the Western Guy, or Jesse James the wrestler, or or Jesse Jesse James or Jesse James the porno actress stripper. No, I think he means the Gunslinger. Yeah, I was thinking

less part of the James gang. Jesse James, right, yes, yes, yes, yes, the original, the original, that's right. I don't know, not about racist Candy Burst. Uh you said so about Vance's guest. What about my guest I tried to get You don't think he's worthwhile? Oh? Absolutely, I think he's worthwhile. But I was trying to figure out how to connect with him. I saw the screenshot, and uh yeah, I saw the screenshot and I didn't see a link in that email.

But my internet all those phone numbers and email and everything, all right, Well, my internet was down. My internet was down for part of the a little while here because I had to have the router replaced. But let's see. Well, now I have a jpeg and it says personal email. Okay, there's a personal email address and a small picture, so I'll get on that. But that wasn't present in the email before. I wasn't getting the whole email, I guess. And on the other the other one

has phone numbers, it does, yep, there are pictures. Okay, Now I got the pictures, but they weren't coming through on the email before because I guess I wasn't completely connected to the Internet until they swapped out my router. So something weird happened. Well, the track times have been actually the internet for a couple of weeks, trying to kind a true. Well, somebody, somebody knocked out my router, which was fine, and then

this suddenly wasn't. So I don't know what went on there, but it got really really hot, like I had one of those smoking, hot, freaking routers for some reason, and so it got all heated up and had to be swapped out. All right, I got a question. You said that Jimmy James was Jimmy James, and then he said the James Gang. So was he related to somebody in the James Gang when Joe Waltsh was there? No, No, it's not the band. Yes, but only during the song, uh lie to me? Was that? Yeah? Only at

that Pekaylor's song was a member of the James Gang? President I stand correct. What can I say anything else you want to add in Jimmy Yes, I think so. Oh, let's see what were we doing about before the fall the whole Obama scenario. Well, the funny thing about that guy is

Pay's got absolutely no common experience with black Americans. For instance, the private school he attended to in Hawaii, like in the nineteen eighties, I know for a fact, costs fifteen thousand dollars a month to attend that private school. Now in the seventies when he wanted, maybe is a little cheaper expensive though, Yeah, oh I'm only the I mean it's school for very wealthy elite or in his case, you know, his grands was cidde case officer.

Yeah, didn't his grandmother's connected to the bank or something as well. I mean they were well to do. His grandparents were very well to do at that time in Hawaii. Well, it's strange because they were trying to market him as you know, being the child of a single mom. You know, kind of like the whole thing with Bill Clinton right where it was like, oh, pretty much my mom was just the one who raised me kind of deal. Right. Yeah, she's over in Jakarta working for the

government, pull it in pretty good money. She she was very educated. His mom was very educated. She worked in Jakarta for years under these government agencies, these government funded offices and was teaching English, I think on a university level when she came back to Hawaii. So yeah, I mean they were doing well. They could afford the school, no doubt about it. They have it. Anyway, With that, you want me to move on to the next color, Well, alrighty, let's do that, and let's

see. You know what I'm having trouble with. Who's you right here? But I think this might be uh, Danny, Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. My grandmother was from County Down, Ireland, and when they came over here to northern California, small town, she said they kept calling him dirty foreigners. And she said I never understood as always took the baths every night. So so that's my relation to Ireland. Hey, I really appreciate that you bought on talking about the octopus with Ed Auferman.

Then you had Albert Lania. I thought this were pretty good. But Albert and I listened to Bill Hamilton for three hours that Ed Aufferman interviewed him. He's older and you know, a little confused, but he was. He was pretty interesting listening to him. But I remember when that whole I didn't

pay attention to too much. I never really caught it on the national There was a small newspaper guy on our local radio station and was talking about the depth of Danny Castillo or the you know, the murderer suicide or suicide. But I did end up watching that whole The Conspiracy on Netflix, the four parts series, and I thought it was a couple of things I thought was real interesting. Was the doctor Earl Brian And later on after that I found

out that he was convicted in nineteen seventy six. He was supposed to every said he has mister credibility and for a massive amount of bank fraud and he actually went to jail after that. I know, you lie up some other guests. I mean, maybe they might have some more information, but I know about him if I find it really interesting. But I have been that Cabazon reservation, that's fact. Some friends took me out. Really has a

really nice casino right now, had a great dinner there. And you've also mentioned Gary Webb, and I read his book The Dark Alliance twice and they talked about the Cabazon Indian tribe and weapons and with you know, the drugs going in and out in Nicaragua. And yeah, he kind of also died

under mysterious circumstances too, being shot twice for suicide. Well that's why I mentioned it, because again you got another weird circumstance where there's, you know, the one guy slashes his wrist what of fourteen times, and the other guy figures out a way to shot himself in the head twice. You know, it's worthy of mentioning first thirteen that was Hesitation March. It was the

fourteenth when they got it. Yeah, okay, but it's it's wild, and you know that's why Charlie Robinson, I think, will be a little more detailed about some of these aspects. And uh Ham, Look, the whole thing with that guy who was the original you know Inslow guy, is he's had a lot of strange things to say that have not entirely wrung true, which they showed part of that in that Netflix documentary. But here's the thing, all of these characters that have been you know that that you wind

up chasing down throughout that whole story. Like the one true fact in there is when that you know, that kid on there goes well, you know,

I realize everybody's crazy. That's and it's true. It's like everybody is this mixed bag of Like if I were choosing disinfo agents to dispatch to make sure that everything was kept confused, these are the kind of people I would select, people with tainted backgrounds, who could be easily you know, discredited and undermined, and then would undermine themselves by spinning the stories out of control,

which you know, which always makes me think Judy Baker. But anyway, uh, you know where it's like you dispatch people intentionally to make sure that there's no way ever to have a credible through line on a story like this. And do I think reporters get killed. Certainly they do when they touch the wrong thing. And I think, you know, part of the issue here is that that whole interconnectivity with the Indian Reservations and the underworld and

where you have government converging with organized crime. That stuff I know is true, you know, and I know it's true firsthand. I know it's true where you have you know, look Indian reservations for a little while, we're like a cash cow for a lot of different and a lot of different ethnic organized crime groups. A lot of the European groups, especially and especially during

the rise of the Russian mobsters. I mean, there was a ton of stuff you could do because of the sovereignty of the the native lands, you know, and indeed, you know, nobody ever asked where the money comes from for these casinos and all these other things. A lot of times they don't ask because if you really dig on it, it gets into a really murky world where guaranteed it's not above board. I mean, it's just the

way of things. So the idea that they were sitting there, you know, like dealing arms and working with chemicals and everything else, and thinking to themselves that they had an insulated situation. I mean, where do you think they can conceivably cook up all this meth? They're not doing it in the suburban neighborhoods. They're not doing it in the inner cities where it's expensive to rent an apartment and your neighbors know when you fart next door to them.

Okay, you got to go somewhere where there's just a piece of land that nobody pays attention to. And guess what, the Indian reservations provided that for a very long time. So you know, a guy like Rikona Shuddo was smart enough to do a lot of things but also has a tainted background and clearly has you know, some sort of mental problems. At the same time, is perfectly useful and again is an excellent agent of disinformation where he's connected

to some legitimate things. But we'll spend stories out of control, we'll exaggerate things, we'll you know, try to make his own importance higher and higher and all that. So it's not a question of as to whether the octopus

is one thing or another thing. And by the way, I mean completely outdated ideals if you think about it honestly in context at this point, the idea that the government has you know, back doors into computer software and is spying on everybody, it was revolutionary at the time that somebody started dealing this stuff to foreign nations and oh gee, big surprise, the CIA is spying

on our allies and our adversaries. No kidding, But they had a perfectly valuable computer program that worked for the time, generations behind what it is we're dealing with today. But still big story of interest and influence and all that. And what it does is it reveals kind of like the infrastructure more than anything. Does it get to a specific individual, I don't think so.

But it just it peels back some of that layer that you know, again is part of the invisible part of doing business when it comes to you know, the the intersections, if you will, of again organized crime, intelligence, the drug world, all of it converges at certain points. You know. That's why I liked it when Lanier brought up the dark web, and I said, yeah, this is pretty much like the dark web, where this stuff exists. It's there all the time, but it's only accessible if

you know exactly how to get to it. And that is the definition of the dark web. It's the same thing, right, you know. Well, what I thought was really interesting with Albert set mentioned is he really wanted to do it investigate into John Booth Nichols, and then he mentioned the Akuza, which is I believe Japanese organized crime. I thought that, which I thought was interesting because I was a twist. Didn't sound like I was a little I didn't really understand. He said he didn't. He had watched the

documentary, so it sounded kind of skeptical. But I can understand because there's probably a lot there that was left on the floor. You know, they're going to tailor how they want to make it but I found also I stumbled across something else. It was a one of the three men. It wasn't Alvarez, it was the other gentleman that was killed there on the Indian reservation. It was her. His daughter started investigating, and there was the Jimmy

Hughes. I believe he was the security that Nichols had at the Cabazon Reservation. He was now a pastor in Guatemala, but then he was in like preaching of the church in president so his it was his granddaughter. They put it on TikTok that his daughter went to the and confronted him in the church, and you taped it, and I heard the tape recording, and he is basically the past, the past, the past of the past. He's

the guy killed people, but the past of the past. And then he mentioned you really need to look at John Booth Nichols, almost like implicating him for the murders. Yeah, but unfortunately with that guy, you know, he died a couple of months after giving that. You know that that deposition where he's sitting there pretty much pissed off. And he's even given a deposition which reminded me a lot of one of the guys who was involved in Watergate and all that stuff. Uh, one of the guys who was at one

point on Garrison's list of people that he was trying to extradite. Good God, I should know this guy's name off the top of my head. But like sort of just to catch all kind of guy who was doing everything Gordon Ovell, you know, who was out there doing all kinds of different stuff, except Gordon Ovell worked with sound equipment much like what Racconna Shudo was doing

as a teenager. Novell was doing that kind of stuff. But these guys always pop up in these weird situations like anywhere from you know, the guy who tried to build the car there that they used him back to the future, Uh, you know, popping up anywhere from there to you know, showing up as asking the CIA to help them out with stuff, you know, which most people wouldn't do in their normal course of doing business, you know what I mean. Yeah, like like a Gordon Ovell kind of character.

And you see a couple of those guys pop up in this whole thing. So, like I said, I'm gonna have to continue the conversation, but I'm building it up as I go with more details and no, neither one of them had watched Neither one of them had watched the documentary yet, but all of them had heard from people that were either in the documentary or had been contacted about the documentary, which was really strange, uh, where they were like surprised that this thing came out and you know, they were

given none to the warning or do you want to respond to this or that? Like at the end of the documentary, you notice they say, we we asked if this person wanted to be interviewed. They said no, you know. Uh, But honestly, the side we're hearing is nobody contacted anybody, nobody warned anybody it was coming out, and they've somehow made this kind of a you know, a viral, successful, popular, you know, true crime thing, and Netflix is doing pretty well with it. So,

you know what, I didn't joint the documentary. I thought it was really interesting, bought back a lot of a lot of memories from you know, I'm hearing about it, and read reading some books on the subject matter. It was interesting. Let me ask you a question about that though, because I was watching the documentary and I picked up on a weird thing there which nobody has mentioned in the reviews or anything. But you know the lady that was like saying, well, I dated, uh, you know, Danny

briefly, but then I was his good friend for a long time. That woman, uh, I can't remember her name, but did you get the impression that she was almost like going for like a cougar move on the uh the one filmmaker there where she was like, and you kind of look like Danny and you know, hey, did you pick up on that about it? Yeah? You're yeah, the actually you did at one point did kind of look go up with Keesslo. Yeah, it was kind of that was

kind of awkward. Yeah, wasn't that like a weird awkward sort of like seemed like somebody just intentionally stuck that in there to like just to be weird. And I don't think anybody's taking it like they were embarrassing her or what. Yeah. I couldn't tell what the purpose of them including that was, but it was weird, right. It was sort of like, are you

trying to make her look strange here? Because she was all, you know, like truly good friend and close to him and this and that, and she's crying over him still you know, thirty years later, and and meanwhile she looks up at the guy and she's like, hey, but you kind of look like Danny baby, what's up? You know? Like it was weird? Yeah, that was that was kind of that was kind of weird. Okay, I just I don't know what about fair enough? Not just me? Then? Thank you. I appreciate that, man. So I'm

gonna put you back on hold again. We'll try and get around everybody. Maybe other people want to comment on The Octopus. But Captain trips or or bepeed either, why at you? I don't know if one he wants to talk about the Octopus. The recent Netflix uh you know series that has now gone out there. It's getting attention. But The Octopus is a long time

good. Yeah. I haven't seen I haven't seen it. I'm familiar with the with the story Danny Casselon's story in The Octopus, but I haven't seen I haven't seen the minis here or the Netflix series, so I probably wouldn't have anything to add on that one. Well, when you do, or if you do watch it, check out that part with that lady I'm talking

about. I think it's in episode three and they're just this section that sort of comes out of nowhere where she's like and you kind of look like Danny, and you almost see like an awkward moment kind of there where it almost seems like she's trying to hit on him in the middle of you know, crying over Danny Castileiro, which I found really odd. And I don't know if it was an editing choice or if that's the way it flowed, or like what was the purpose to leave, Like I would have cut that if

I was making that that documentary. But you know, anyway, should we go to another caller, beat Peter, you want to drop something in? No, I was gonna say, I'm unfamiliar as well with the series. I haven't seen anything I've ever read anything about it. If I couldn't add very much, So if you want to go to the next caller, by all means. And I did reach out to to the UH filmmakers, the company. I found the website and I reached out to them, and I

have not heard a response yet. As far as you know, I'd like to interview somebody. This thing came out I think the eighth of March, so UH and they have done interviews elsewhere but I haven't gotten a response yet, and I am. I am gonna work on that guest Jimmy over the weekend that you sent me, and also going to get on the one that Advance sent me. So we're gonna we're gonna see what new guests we could get on here soon. But let's see, this might be Harlan because one

of the wireless callers. Yes, it is so Harlan the Octopus or anything else I've got the Well, that's the only thing I can really calm man, is you know, I know where the Cabazon Reservation is, and I know where the casino is in California, right down the road from all of them, the mainest scale house slashway station in the nation. And Trump used to have I guess he was loaning his brand out to the twenty nine palms down the road back in the day, and it was called the Trump twenty

nine for a few years. But that's pretty much about all I got to say about the Cavazon deal. I don't have Netflix, so I wouldn't saying it if it was on there twenty four to seven. You know, for a mile, I got you. Well, the thing is, yeah, I only have Netflix because somebody shares a password with me. But uh yeah that that uh Trump twenty seven. I actually have I collect Aces of Spades and I'm sure i have that. I'm sure well well yeah twenty nine.

Sorry, I'm sure I have the uh the Ace of Spades from a deck of cards from that casino. Because I have a collection of Aces of Spades. I got like three thousand of them. So anyways, yeah, this just not always remember, you know, to what you tongue when you're talking about the Chosen One. You got to get it right. I hated to correct you, but you know how it wants you to get in trouble for you know, when he comes back to power here at the end of the

year. Well listen, if he's coming back to power and really gonna you know, seek retribution on everybody. Unfortunately, Roger Stone claims to still listen to the show. So I'm in trouble already, I think, just saying yeah, yeah, well, so you know, I've been playing this sophisticated game of four hundred and sixty nine B and D Jsted and you know, I'm probably gonna be the next Transportation Secretary. I can't you know, say I'm guaranteed to be, but you know, I'm probably in the running,

especially since who we've had for the last couple of Transportation secretaries. I probably go as did his chance as anybody because I actually do know something about it and don't, like, you know, the current one. But so interviews. Oh look, Captain Trips wants to answer the thing about but listen, if you wind up being Transportation Secretary, Harlan, you know, look, helped me at least stay out of prison, you know, a couple of

years, will you. But but go ahead, well you know, I'll put in a good word for you, you know, I mean, it's just according one I have to, you know, check and say, you know, if my bank account grow and there's a deposit from Georgia. But you know that's that's like, that's the way it works, all right. Well, Roger Stone, if they'll, if they'll help me out, you know, I'll break you off a piece of whatever it is I get and maybe I'll just have to become a devotee of Orange Jesus next, you know,

and I'll break you off piece of that happily, you know. But go ahead, Trips, you have something you want to add Oh no, I was gonna say if if he's if he's canning out cabinet posts, you know, I think I'd be well suited for Health and Human Services, or at least the director of the CDC. I can promise you that that that I'd be assassinated within six months. But but if he gives me that post, I will make changes. I will make changes, I promise. I

don't know nobody, nobody if we're looking for jobs. I don't know if this is going to overlap with Captain Tripps. But I wanted the job of the horny animal. Uh, it might fall, it might fall under me. Well, well then I think it like a sub cabinet secretary or something you can be. You can be the deputary Deputary Secretary in charge of animal intoxication studies. Because obvious with you when it comes to the Japanese quail, I would rather just let the do coke and then go see the different you

know, more is than Japanese quail. Well, since we're since we're talking ridiculous health stories, did you see that apparently a baby goat has contracted bird flu in in Minnesota? Oh no, it's yeah, And I said someone asked how you could get birds and goats to to copulate, and I said, I think that can only happen if a panglin makes the arrangement. You know, if a panglin does the matchmaking, then I think the goat and

the bird can get get together. I'd have to find out. I'll have to call Falci to me, because that's something we just with a lot here with turkey and chicken houses out the ginn gang is the bird flu. It's really afflicted affected a lot of the growers here, a lot of them. So somebody species like that to a goat. Somebody, somebody contact Disney on

this. I'm sure they'll be able to help us out anyway, probably probably the same way people were people were testing uh you know uh uh McDonald hamburgers and getting positive COVID PCRs. I mean, and I tell you what, at this point, I'm into anything that. Anything the establishment tells you about medicine health. Just just turn your head and go the complete opposite direction. You may not be one hundred percent right, but I can guarante antee you

you'll be one hundred percent follow any of the advice from these people. Just one point of clarity, gentlemen. I mean, I don't want to offer an opinion on this or anything, but are you guys both trying to tell me that bird flu is sexually transmitted? Is in fact an STD? Is that what you're telling me? Who knows? Who knows? Okay, I'm sure it's caused by climate change or the Russians. I mean it's either. I think it could have been putin that did it, but I'm not sure.

I mean, would that piggyback on HPV? And that's why everybody's got to have a garter still shot? Now? I mean I almost have to go with climate change on this one. Well, that affects everything. Repeat, Come on, right, I think climate change? Right? Isn't Isn't that why he does what he does? Because a climate change? I don't know, I might have missed the story. I don't have to check with John. Uh what's her name? Uh? Who's the who's the twitt?

That's the press secretary, Jean Pierre something or other? Jen Saki? No, No, no, she was, she was was the red devil before her, the black lady, the one that is intelligent telling k k K that's right. Sounds like a new intelligence agency for North Korea. Anyways, how about this, uh, next caller? Uh, anything you want to drop in here on pengulins or the octopus or any other pharmaceutical or farm animal. Go ahead, Just a generalized question for the listeners here or some of

the people involved in the conversation. How many of you I actually believe that we're ruled by a two party system? All right tonight? Captain Tripps and I have just answered you with our chuckles because yeah no, But b Pete, you go ahead and answer for yourself. I'm gonna say here, isn't he as many times as we've gone over this discussion of the one party dance? Yeah? Okay, so I think that can census everybody who's on the

Skype live would tell you that it's a one party system. Uh. And you know what's harm I'm gonna ask, like, what Harlem's belief I think he I think he figures it's all a con job on both sides. I mean, I'll let him answer for himself if he wants to correct me before we're done, But I think he would tell you it's a con job from any angle. Uh. And that's basically the way it runs. Although it

could possibly run on a two party system. I think he sees nothing but con artists on all sides right now, except that he's now declaring tonight that he's on the Trump train again. But you know, ourn Jesus will get you definitely. Okay, So with that, let's go to somebody else who would definitely want to comment on the one party or two party system. Vance, Why don't you answer that question? You figure that we're ruled by the two party system still or what? Yeah, I was chuckling myself, but

yeah, we didn't do that enough. But no, just my mom tonight was, you know, all she's going on eighty and she sits in and watches all the Fox News crap, and she's a Trump supporter, and and you know, she's all upset about something that was being discussed on the news and you know, being distraught, and and I'm like, and it's the immigration or should I say the Great Invitation? But and I said, well, you know, Mom, I said, I would probably be just as

upset as you are. And I'm pissed, and I understand the you know, the brustration. But you know, I, as I've been trying to tell you for years, you know that, you know that it doesn't matter. You know that the people that you're electing and are on the TV telling you what they're telling you aren't the winds pulling. So you know, it's

a it's an open secret. Like I said that, the deep state is the United Nations, in the in the Bank of International Settlements, in the in the World Economic Forum, and we we we have a two party illusion, a diversion of a ruse. You know, democracy is just basically a ruse in itself as far as what representative democracy or whatever. And and you know, it's just the tyranny of the majority, you know, And that's the way that the system is designed to work, is to pit one against

the other. And so no matter who, when somebody is always going to be pissed off. It's about principles. The Constitution was about principles and natural rights and common law. And we're under a corporate structure, and you know, this is all corporatism, fascism, whatever the fuck you want to call it. That note, On that note, I'd like to bring up a

very commercial aspect of this whole thing. Now, Harlan said that he was being paid to be on the Trump wagon, again, and I'm wondering, is anybody taking this clip that he's cutting and these promos and going to a spray on tan chain or find out who Trump's be on Tan artist is and what couples they use. I see a huge advertising potential here, and I want my royalties. Listen. I definitely would would want to go for that.

I mean, you might as well market it every which direction you can, because once he's back in there, I think the money's going to dry up for promotion because he won't need it anymore. Just saying I am so Harland. I think if nothing else, we all ship in. We go get harm on a spray to him so that he's going to be on the bandwagon and you know, for Orange Jesus that we still look the part.

Well, there you go. You know what. I'm going to jump back over to Harland real fast and see if he's interested in getting the spray tand and then we'll go back around. Oh wait a minute, I don't see him now, maybe he's not on there. Okay, I might have lost Harlan. Yeah I did, all right, So I'll jump over to Jimmy James, who, by the way, might differ on the one party system

situation. H But I'll say this, the majority of people that tolerate me, Chris, the question you asked have been described by others as some form of mutant libertarian where we're not really standard libertarians, but we're really that's the only box you could possibly begin to fit part of us into the majority of people that tolerate me, And this network seems like. However, there is a significant congingent that fall to the right, and somehow think the Republicans are

better than the Democrats. But most of us just figure the game is rigged enough that it doesn't matter anymore. So, but some of us have a little more faith in the right hand of the beast, you know, not slapping us upside the head as hard as the left hand. But that's not me anyway. Jimmy might have something else to say for himself. There you go, Jimmy open line. Well, I'm not ruled by anyone or anything,

let alone to political parties that ought not even exist. However, I am quite a enthusiast of constitutional fidelity because this is what I do follow, which works out good as I'm a constitutional officer. Now, as far as this talk of democracy, you're absolutely a democracy be a tyranny of the majority. That's why our founding fathers hated it. They despise even the name democracy. We are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. There is

no pure democracy at beast. That term is an attribute applied to mostly free societies. But we need to be very clear about reality. And the Constitution doesn't have anything about law in it advance. I wish you'd read the thing if you're going to comment on it. All it does is lay out our way of government, and then there's a bill of rights which protects us from that government. That is what the Constitution is. What it is not is

civil c eight teen, Code eighteen, Code twenty three. And honestly, most of the rules that run your particular lives are passed by your states and localities. But if it goes beyond that, in theory got the federal criminal but it really should never get that high. The government closest to you is

who you should be most familiar with. That was the founder's attention, and pretty soon, I mean, you guys can laugh all you want, but I guarant d amntee that there's going to be some reduction of significant proportions of the bureaucracy, if Trump lives and if Trump gets in office, and if the Democrat Party doesn't literally cause a civil war, which they already have discussed

in their little private communications which have been exposed. Even BPTE I'm sure has read that about the committee The last time they were running, they considered everyone left this fling to the left coast and just denying Trump's election. So that's all I got to say on that. Oh, oh, there you go, and uh, excellent points, you know. And like I said, let Jimmy speak for himself. Meanwhile, Uh, which caller I got here?

I think I got. I might have uh Dan, our friend from I might have Danny back Danny. Danny's Yeah, Danny's ruled by his wife. Ah, well that makes a lot more sense. Jimmy did say, what is closest to you? Yeah, so you know, yeah, that's closest to me. Yeah, yeah, I'm all about to t no. We What I think with the two major political part is basically there it's the golden rule. Who has the gold rules? And they're both catering to the

donors. And for me personally, I'm just a lovable, bleeding heart and I just want to good for everybody, whether you're a liberal or conservative or agnostics. I'd love to see everybody thrive, survive, and you know, and do well, regardless of what they think about the world around them or where it is they happen to live. I'd like to see people get, you know, first the opportunity to live and secondly the opportunity to live well,

whatever that means to them. But you know, again, I'm one of these like live and let live, do no harm first policy kind of people. And I believe in the concept of non aggression. And it's just that simple, you know. But nobody's listening to me. Yeah, I get it, I get it. I always say nobody agrees with that's okay, So it is what it is. But look, we're down to the last less than ten minutes, and we do have some we have some people still holding and I don't put Danny back on hold, So be pete.

What do we do with the last ten minutes? Here? We still got Captain trips, we still got looks like Jimmy James, Chris, Danny Advance I think still on the line, yep. So what do we do? Do We let a little phone chaos happen. Do you want to drop final words on this? What should we do with the last now about nine minutes of the show. Well, I'm all take just a minute or two to throw out my last thoughts for the week. I mean, I'm glad everybody's

called in. We've had a good discussion tonight. I'd like to think that, you know, in theory, yes, we do have a constitutional republic, but I think our government has gotten so big and as eating so much and consuming so much that it's just, you know, a behemoths feeding itself. I think now we're under all of ard all the party stage where the Democrats, as far as I'm concerned, that party is nothing but a plague

on society. I can't help it. And based on their past, what they've stood for in the past, I don't even see how they're allowed to operate without being termed, uh a hate group Republicans. They've completely sold out a corporate interests. They don't care about anybody out, they don't care about

the taxpayer, care about those that get them elected. And the first thing to do is they start generating money for the for the party to be able to get their you know, coveted seat that they want on this committee. It's ridiculous. I would hope that we could go back to a constitutional Republican until we clean house and until somebody Trump whoever, comes in and starts cutting back on this bloated bureaucracy. Nobody's going to be able to breathe soon.

He's going to take every bit of your money just to try to keep your head above water. And is by design, you know, are governmenters looking forward now to just having a a supplicant group of individuals that they can rule over and not worry about their where their you know, money's coming from.

All I got to do is just keep taxing them and just keep printing money and just keep borrowing and until something changes, until we can start getting rid of the government and get it down to a controllable size, We're not going to have any luck at any of this. So yeah, this this one party system that's ruling right now is for the benefit of those with the wealth

and the elite who can afford anything that they mandate upon the populace. Other than that, if you want to open up the phones for a little chaos and back and forth, you know, looking forward next week we can continue this discussion, you know what. That is what I am going to do. But I'm going to answer one thing. If I believe for a second that you know that Jimmy was right that Trump was going to come in and really put the kibosh on the bureaucracy. I might before him, but you

know, did he do it last time? Really? I mean, he didn't fill a bunch of slots. Yeah, okay, but did that shrink the bureaucracy in any way? I don't see evidence of it. I know other people tell now, no, no, this changed, that changed. I don't see what changed there regarding the bureaucracy. And well, next time, next time, and it's going to change. Well, I think you're gonna get your ability to see what changes, because he's definitely gonna get in

there at this time. Looks like to me, I mean, how could a sane country even buy a selection being handed to Biden in the condition he's in. How could anybody believe that go ahead? I'm still waiting for the bait and switch. To be honest with you, I still do not believe that Biden is going to be the Democratic nominee come November. I could be wrong. But I mean, every time you see this man, he is

more and more debilitated. Take my personal feelings about what the hell him and his administration have done over the last couple of years just looking at him. I mean even Reagan. You go back and look at old clips of Reagan when he was coming, when he was forward the end of his second term, he didn't even look that back and he still spoke fairly intelligibly, given the fact that he had Alzheimer's and they knew it as he was, you know, his last few years in office. I I just I can't,

I just I can't imagine. I don't know who they're going to try to slide in there. I thought it was Gavin Newsom. But to be quite honest with you, I think Gavin Newsom has made such a hot mess of California that even the Democrats don't want them. You know, are they going to try to slide you know, it's my turn Hillary in or I don't

know, And I hope Jimmy James is right. I truly do. And I have to agree with you if I if I truly thought my I'm gonna gonna say my last piece and then I'm actually gonna have to cut out of here. But my issue, my biggest issue with Trump lockdown, Operation warp speed, still patting himself on the back over this. The man has yet to apologize, has yet to admit that he's screwed up and he listened to the wrong people. And I'm sorry until he makes his his miakafa on that

one, I cannot. I absolutely that his decisions had so, I mean, screwed up a lot of lives. But you know, I just now, if he does get in there and he really does take a hatchet to the bureaucracy, I'll support him one hundred percent on that. Absolutely, no accomplished something. I am gonna have to cut out. It was a pleasure and we'll do it again soon sometime. Absolutely always welcome captain trips. And we're almost done. So what I'm gonna do is open up all the phone

lines for a couple of minutes here. But you know, last thing to remember is there was a bunch of people screaming that they were going to slot Kamala in there. You know, in his first term, Biden's gonna step aside Kama and you know what didn't happen. That's how bad she is. Nobody would accept that they're not gonna be able to slot Kamil in there, and I don't see how they could possibly sell you on. Hey, Hillary's the new choice. Good luck. People don't even see her as human.

I mean, what are you gonna do? Anyway, All participants are unmuted. That's the way that is now so wide open. And I'm gonna shut off my mic and let you guys basically finish the show. Okay, I just got one thing to say, because I've been wanting to say for three or four weeks, but somehow it never gets out. Just a random fact now, but it was pertinent to a conversation like a few weeks ago. Anyways, well known fact unless you know, the largest concentration of circuit boards

in the world is that the Mexico City. Don't not Taiwan. Good there you go, anybody else? Take my twenties, well there it is at a lot of quiet. All of a sudden, somebody said something about somebody in twenty twenty four, Kanye twenty twenty four. I'm sticking by it. That was a big Mike, Big Mike, Big Mike. Okay, why not big Mike. Uh, Look, anybody, anybody, anybody, no matter who you are, where you are, when you are. I want you to remember this. I'm merely o'celly. All of you are indeed the

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