The Ochelli Effect 12-15-2023 Open Mic

You Chilly Effect. Its sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com and listeners like Yeah, I ad noise and all media. Hey, hopefully the intro wasn't too loud. But here we are alive and loud on a friar's day, and it is the fifteenth of December twenty twenty three, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar. So here goes the o'celly effect. Funny thing. Last night, I tried to get Larry Hancock on and uh, something totally weird at a character. Oh man, I'm gonna have to rumble my

microphone. Hold on, guys, Sorry about that. That's probably a horrible noise I just made. Anyway, Yeah, I tried to get Larry Hancock on last night. It was gonna be a pleasant and enjoyable discussion because it's Larry Hancock and I couldn't get that together. But otherwise, most things went according to schedule throughout the week because I double schedule everything and was able to

pull off different days. And this coming week we're gonna see solid broadcasts I think, starting from Sunday night all the way through uh not taking a break here and all that good stuff all the way up to Uncle's New Year's Revolution on the thirty first of December, which so happens to fall on a Sunday. But after that we'll be followed on this Friday night by Aaron Franz once

again. So he's gonna start rolling at ten pm Eastern on ocelly dot com live on Fridays again, so we'll have solid blocks of call in on Friday nights, and who the hell knows what else we'll do. Maybe maybe we'll start the show a little earlier. I'll come in and do an hour early

and then pick up BP at eight o'clock. I don't know, haven't figured it all out yet, but things are gonna be changing, and we're gonna go in different directions here, gonna try and pick up new people and let him say new things on the air too, because the hell with it. I don't seem to have anybody that I can talk to with my own points of view intact, so we're just gonna explore everybody else's. Yeah, I said, it's gonna get weird anyways, be ready and be ready for this.

You can join the show tonight. I have my co host b Pete with me. Whoever joins us it is definitely an open forum, and we could be discussing lots of news. After all, Hunter Biden's been charged, after all, there's lots of politics as per usual. After all, Rudy Giuliani just got hit with a number finally. You know, lots of things there. Hey, there's still war, they're still shooting, there's still violence,

there's still crime. And they just figured out something drug wise, the DEA did, although it seems like they've been figuring it out for the past few months regarding your massive opiates supply. But hey, pay no attention to that, because couldn't have been something that maybe I was saying a long time ago. All right, moving forward, and yeah, there's jfk assassination stuff

we could discuss and whatever else is on your mind. Three one nine five seven five zero one six three one nine five two seven five zero one six And hey, b Pete, I only took three minutes to babble. You could reach me at Charles dot Ocelly on Skype two. If you're not on my list, you can get on there. I'll let you on, but I won't necessarily keep you. You ask me and I'll call you into the show. Oop I gotta shut down something else that might make noise in a

second. If I don't, there we go. Also, I've been uploading a lot of video stuff, and I have much much more to upload to the video channels in the coming weeks. There's gonna be a lot of stuff happening, so I might want to stay tuned Ocelli dot com and Ocelly Radio because articles, new video, new audio, hey, and more and more show. That's what's gonna start happening more and more often. B Pete. First off, man, how you doing tonight? Has it been an interesting

week that was or are you tired or how you feeling today? I'm doing pretty good today for on his Friday. I think God week's over with another busy week of work, but this time it was freezing cold all week, so you know, I had to deal with that. Over the flu though, thank God, goodbye Dallas. Done with that crap. Still coughing a little bit, but other than that, I feel human. You want to know hilarious, hilarious irony. I wanted to let you know something hilarious irony.

Just about the only person that I spoke to, you know, at length, or interacted with, communicated with at length from Dallas. I spoke to Johnny Carnes and a couple other people. Are Karen's God, I'm gonna screw up his name no matter what. And uh I spoke, you know, like spoke to messaged with a bunch of people. You know. The only guy that didn't seem to get sick at all Larry Hancock, thankfully. So you know, it's like he was the only healthy one come out of

that. I'm not sure how that happened in that way. He's old enough, he's had everything already, and he's immune to it all. I guess. I mean that just speaks for you know, when when somebody's blessed, I guess right, I'm not to turn them up a little bit too, by the way. That's that's another thing I wanted to test real fast, is make sure that you were up loud enough. And I don't think you were a second ago. So you were saying, you know, it was

a rough week. Yeah, busy week. I've been trying to keep up with the news, been playing the radio a lot while I was at work this week, had a chance to keep it on and listen to it all now the truck, but a lot of stuff happening. I got a few headlines here we can go over. And I got some naked news that we can go over tonight, so we can make it an interesting discussion, right absolutely. Hey, And it looks like, uh, Vanarkey puts something in

the chat room, little Curtis Mayfield. Nothing wrong with that. Uh, don't see anybody else really starting to talk over there. But we do have a live chatroom at Ocelli dot com. If you're not aware, uh, And if you're not aware, it's kind of weird you're even listening to this, cause you know, it seems like unless you're on And I don't know how this happened, by the way, but most of our live listeners are on iPhones. It looks like it's an odd thing. And I don't know.

I was only aware that we were on Apple Radio maybe a year ago. Steadily once again, even though I put in for and I apply for and I put things through, you know, stuff just stops working and nobody informs me. But a lot of our listeners are on Apple devices on the Apple Radio one way or another. I don't know how lot of it.

I've noticed here watching the ads and the only reason I've been paying attention to is Because'm getting ready to change phone service, so I've been looking for where i can get the most Wi Fi coverage, and most companies now are offering too. I heard of today free iPhone, free new iPhone every year of your contract. So a lot of people have them because their phone service is offering them now. From sitting next to nothing, that might be what it

is, that may maybe exactly what it is. So anyway, look, no matter how you're listening to us, welcome, and of course if you're hearing us live, you can call in and join and be part of the show and direct what's happening. I can't wait to hear what headlines you picked up on this week, because again it was another weird week to me because I was not pinned to the headlines the entire time. I was busy doing

other stuff. It wasn't just about being sick. But I do want to try and shut up a lot tonight because I also have an infected tooth again, so I'm going to try and not talk as much. That's why I'm getting it out of the way early. And I'm also testing stuff because again I tried playing around with the settings last night when Larry was on, and I want to make sure you're still good and clear because you're on a separate channel than me, b Pete. So I think you're all set now and

I'll shut up. So what did you happen to take notice of before people start, you know, joining us via phone and whatnot. Well, I don't start off with naked news right off the bat. I mean this was

pretty big. It's been reported on by several places. A DEM staffer was busted for having gay said in a Senate hearing room, but in the act, apparently it says, uh, it says what is going up on the hill has nothing to do with Ukraine eight, Israel war funding, inflation, or a host for the issues that never seem to get done by these lawmakers. Their respective staff appear to have a lot of free time because one of them filmed themselves having gay sex in a Senate hearing room. Wow, Jorn

gay porno was filmed in the Capitol building. The Daily Caller had the story plus the graphic images, which we will not post here. But holy hell, what is going on in Washington? I think that's great. I don't think we would have ever heard of representative. What Edie Bernice or Eddie Bernice Johnson, Right, I haven't seen her make any sort of headlines elsewise until this. So apparently this aiden Mace Schirovsky, staffer for Senator Ben Carter from

Maryland. So there it is. It's official. Now they're filming in the Senate hearing rooms. This is great. Yeah, no, I was looking at it. I was looking at a story from twelve years ago that has Hill staff replaced on lead after email disparaging gay colleague and uh but but there. But there's always these weird stories that that come around when you do a search, Right, so I don't see this story everywhere, the one you're talking about. Yeah, where where is it? Uh? Let's see the

Daily Caller had this. Uh wait, let me go back. What was it? Hot air dot com? Yeah, hold on, the Daily Caller had the original story. I think it was a stream on Twitter originally. Is where the post started at. Let's see dem Stafford busting for having gay sex in a Senate hearing room. Oh, here we go. The Daily Mail also has it. Okay, yeah, okay, there we go and uh yeah, so Congressionals Stafford has been accused of filming an amateur game.

Wait a minute, this wasn't just like, you know, a quick session that they were having and somebody said, hey, let me film you baby. This was uh, they were intentionally trying to create a porno. Apparently. Yeah, they post on one of these guys's TikTok or something there. Let's see where did it say? Let me follow it down. I forget whether I think it was on TikTok or somewhere that they post their their X rated VIDs that they shoot. Apparently he's got a bear boyfriend and uh,

let's see. The alleged Stafford can also be seen in a photo naked on all fours looking back at the camera on the table where senators often sit to ask questions during the Sorry that a video started playing on one of the news sites. Sorry, it's a Senate room in a hard building center, Room two sixteen, the Judiciary Room. I will agree. You know, I got to be cleaning that one here over the weekend. Yeah, definitely.

But the weirdest part to this is, yeah, apparently the Daily Caller broke the story, according to the Daily Mail, which is hilarious for starters. But the idea that this was supposed like this isn't just again, let me just film my little tryst. Oh jeez, audio, No, there's no audio. But apparently there's just like a quick little thing with the camera. Oh, we don't have their camera being posted by the news sites. We have the security cam just catching some portion of this happening in yeah, the

Judiciary Committee's room, right yep. Wow, this is crazy. So anyway, the bullet points, you know, I love I love when the when the Daily Mail does this, But uh see what else you can pick up that you want to report on it? That would be I just had an idea though, that would be a way to help get rid of the deficit. Is start selling White House and Capital Building security tape bloopers that catch. You'd sell a million DVDs off this, you know, straight downloads. That

would get rid of the whole deficit right there. Guaranteed you in a couple of years, we'd have us back in you know, back in the black. I was just thinking what a funding source that could be. You know, if you had to open up the footage, let somebody edit it, you know, and like America's Funniest Home Videos, you just sell DVDs of crap scene at the at the Capitol. Well, it would definitely be out those you know, you know tho's like websites that have you know, like

crazy things seen at Walmart kind of deal. Uh yeah, I mean you could definitely get a you know what, what's the while I don't know, like not girls gone Wild kind of thing, but like a senator, you know, the things you're not supposed to see at the senator or something or

too. Okay, if you want to make the ultimate money, you just put it on one of these damn websites that keep coming up that has some you know, some headline and a thumbnail and you click on it and it tells you two sentences of the story and a picture and then you have to click next, and thirty minutes later you're going, am I ever going to

get to the end of this damn thing? And you give up. There's been so many of those that I don't know how ended, because you get hooked into and it's like I am not sitting here clicking for the next forty five minutes to find out if Farmer John was able to nail the new neighbor. This is crazy, Oh you're talking about with porn? Okay, for a minute there, I thought you meant, well, you know, porn

or fear porn or news or whatever. No, just these stories. They come up with these headlines like, you know, farmer meets farmer Mary's second cousin that he didn't find out until such and such reading it, and they give you about two or three sentences of the paragraph, and then you have to click next, and another page loads, and all those ads load, and then you read a little bit more and you click next. You never hit one of those pages where it's just as never ending. You don't get

to the end of the story. Heels. Oh yeah, of course you got to watch an ad or you know, would you like to sign up? And everything else? Too hot for c span is my idea for the title of it, Right, too hot for se span video. And maybe you can sell monthly memberships to it. Just have like an uploader site, right, that would be a way to go. Well, now, memberships, so you're not getting your maximum impact per download when you do memberships,

you know you don't. This is the government. We need to get rid of the deficits. So we don't want to we don't want to give it away. Well, yeah, but money here I'm not saying about giving it. Here's the deal though. Some months, I mean I'm thinking that there might be some months, some weeks that could go by where there's not much to it. You still got them paying because there's a subscriber base that pays.

And sometimes it's just you know, Marjorie Taylor Green picking her nose or you know, or God help us, I mean Pelosi falling asleep or something. You know, stuff like that would be on you know, your general week, and then you got the really hot weeks or something like this occurs. You know, although, oh, something I found out this week, you know, talking about you know, catching people and stuff like that. Oh, Hunter Biden, you know how much he spent on his teeth seventy

thousand dollars. That was seventy thousand dollars teeth. What do you think you could do? I mean, what does that get you seventy thousand dollars worth of teeth? I don't know. It doesn't actually sound out of line with the prices that people want to charge for stuff anymore. You know, dental bills are rough man. You know, well they were doing you know, they were doing won't meth repair. So yeah, probably extensive. Well that's

the thing is interesting to burn seventy thousand bucks cash on teeth. Well see, and that's the thing is he hit the trifecta. You know, according to different reports, he hit the trifecta of the drugs that knock your teeth out, you know. I mean I spent some years addicted to the opiates which do damage to your teeth, your teeth fall out from that. But apparently meth and crack are two things that definitely knock your teeth out, even

quicker from my understanding. So I mean, he really went for it all. So he might have had nothing left in his mouth, you know, and so wholesale replacement. But I don't know. I think there's a photo floating around out there with him fire to get them done or something. And it was pretty drastic. But I'll tell you what I've got this. I got a few headlines here we can go over and if you find something interesting when you stop discussing, or someone calls in, when you add him to

the pile, yeah, I say, you string him together. I want to go Just look at the ap really fast, and you know you can check these off of your list if you already got them. But just today, I mean, you got the jury awarding one hundred and forty eight million in damages to Georgia election workers over Rudy Giuliani in the twenty twenty vote thing. Let's see what else is in the ap because this is your mainstream media source. A lot of times, Israeli military says it mistakenly killed three Israeli

hostages and Gaza. See now that's a relatively low number and shouldn't even be a headline. Honestly. Pentagon has ordered a US aircraft carrier to remain in the Mediterranean near Israel. Of course. Let's see. Oh, you remember that six year old that shot the teacher in Virginia the money, Yeah, she just got two years in prison for child neglect. Let's see. Yeah, let's see, after forty witnesses in forty three days of testimony, here's

what we learned a Trump's civil fraud trial. Yay, they're just dragging that headline through. Corda holds seventy five thousand fines against Alex Jones for missing Sandy Hook case deposition. Well, you know, contempt charges are rough, and as I explained in that recent episode of the show, It's not like this guy can't afford these things. It's been well funded for a long time. Anyway. Let's see, biggest solar flare in years temporarily disrupts radio signals on

Earth. Now I didn't take notice of that, did you? No? When did it hit? Yeah, let's get the details on this, because this is an AP story that was Let's see it was published on the fifteenth, so it is today. Let's see. Open up. Come on now, AP, let me you know, the AP does this weird thing where the top part of your screen is dominated by a freaking ad when you first go to it now, which is a weird time. Man. I hate this now, I hate that most news sites are that way. Now.

They got this massive ad at the top. He got a way for it to load before you get even scrolled down or even and then you try and slide it away and half the time there's no way to slide it away without on it. Right anyway, Cape Carnavo, Florida, a NASA telescope has just reading from the story, a NASA telescope has captured the biggest solar flare

in years, which temporarily knocked out radio communications on Earth. The sun spit out the huge flare along with a massive radio burst on Thursday, causing two hours of radio interference in parts of the US and other sunlit parts of the world. Scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said it was the biggest player since twenty seventeen, and the radio burst was extensive, affecting even the

higher frequencies. The combination resulted in one of the largest solar radio events ever recorded. Sean Dahal of NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center said Friday, So you know what, I'm gonna take that story and drop it in the room at o'celli dot com. Hopefully it doesn't give me this big, massive link to it. But okay, so with that, I mean I could look at the funny opener to JP Statilly's newsbandal Rundown today, which I think is worthy

of looking at. Let's go to that real fast, and I think this is definitely worthy of your examination. This is from the markup dot org. By the way, your smart TV knows what you're watching. See, this is one of those we already knew this, but let's get to this because maybe there's more nowadays, right if you bought a new smart TV. This is the article. If you bought a new smart TV during any of the holiday sales, there's likely to be an uninvited guest watching along with you.

The most popular smart TV sold today use automatic content Recognition ACR, which I'm sure the guys over at Alternate Current Radio are thrilled with that, because now ACR is going to like trend in searches a bit. There's a boot hoot. Too bad they won't call anything on a smart Tbocelli, not just yet. Stay tuned a kind of ads surveillance, technical and technology, according to the article, that collects data on everything you view and sends it to a

priority database to identify what you're watching and serve you highly targeted ads. So now that it's even more than the Google thing. Right back to the article, The software is largely hidden from view and it's complicated to opt out. Many consumers aren't aware of ACR, let alone that it's active on their shiny new TVs. If that's you and you'd like to turn it off, we're going to show you how. And this is in an article again called your

smart TV knows what You're watching? So I guess it's not exactly business as usual. It's the upgrade to business as usual on the TV watches, you know, in Soviet Russia TV watches you okay, so here we go, and Soviet Earth TV watches you yes, NSA, everybody, come watch, come see? And how embarrassed would people be? I mean, remember the days when people did actually have since you broughte a pornography earlier, people actually

had, you know, pornography collections and connections. I wonder how many people are gonna get embarrassed by their pornography when, you know, suggested things on Amazon could come up now even faster than they used to. All right, anyways, so b PTE, now shut up and go ahead through your headlines. If I didn't hit any of the ones that you were gonna hit, well, I don't know. I'm just try kind of scouring across the nation in the world. A few of them kind of stood out. Oh did

you hear about the Boston Mayor's party? Hmm, vaguely, but go ahead, this one hit it. Yeah, the the mayor of Boston, Michelle Wu she decided she was gonna have a holiday party, but it was called the Electeds of Color party and her AID sent out invitations. The problem was sent it out to all the white commissioners that really weren't invited, so they had to disinvite them big, you know, big to do over, you know, segregating your parties. Now no white people allowed. Okay, that's

strange. So let me let me see if I can understand this. An electeds of color, which is in quotes, by the way, throughout most of the articles holiday party email blast, an honest mistake in quotes, according to the thing at the Hill, but elected, that's how you describe. No white people wanted. We don't want white people. Yeah, it's an

elected of color party. And the thing was, you know, they sent out all the invitations and then the AID comes back and apologizes for sending into people who it wasn't designed to go to, so they had to apologize for that. I thought it was hilarious. Seven out of the thirteen council members are white and were uninvited from the Electeds of Color gathering after they were mistakenly emailed an invitation in the New York Post. That's hilarious. It's also in

the Hill. It's all over the place. I'm gonna give the Hill article a drop there in the chat room, but funny as hell because according to what I saw, they were in the midst of, like, you know, getting everybody's dietary considerations. By the way, dude, will you re requiring a vegan meal? Is anyone allergic to peanut butter or peanuts or anything

like that? The funniest thing is is it says Wu admitted that the white council members were accidentally invited to the party, which was meant to exclude them, but said it was an honest mistake. Well see, now there's the funny part where it's like, like, how are people reacting to this? Are people like just okay, that's cool? Or is this like are people pissed? I mean, look your usual suspects. I know who's going to be pissed, right, and she's probably a Democrat? Right, Oh definitely?

Yeah. I mean, so, okay, fine, we knew that was coming. But the electeds of color? Does that mean that it's only supposed to be people that are elected or is there something else to that phrase? Do you know? Well, you know it's yeah, it's the the council members of color. That's what she should have called it. The council members of color the holidays. They she wanted to have a party with the city council members who were not white, right, so she came up with

this elected of colors. Seven out of the thirteen council members are white, the other six aren'ts that's who she was invited. But she screwed up and her aid invited all of them, so then they had to uninvite the white ones. See, and the other weird thing is why do you need all this mechanism to invite because you're saying, what how many of them were people of color? Seven? Six? And then okay, so see the majority white, it's seven whites and six non whites. They mixed them up.

Okay, so seven whites, six non whites. You need to go through all this trouble and have people are SVP. You can't just it's only six people. You can't just create a group text and say hey, everybody, come to my house if you're getting this text, show up, right. I mean, well, I guess this. I guess this was an official thing that the city was paying for. Oh wow, well, now city's mayor, you know, yeah, she's probably putting it on the city's dimes.

So you know it's an official event. Elected of color. Oh man, I mean, what would you call Let's see, how could we put this? Let's see the Colored Company, the Colored Company get together? Wow, I don't know. Like, and now I've just see Now I've just done something right there. I've used the word colored because you're using color. It's the color. It's the cc m P, the Colored Council. No, let's see the Colored Council Members Party. That's what it was. I

started. You start a whole political party with that. The c CMP sounds communist enough, it does, and it also wait, c CMP what that sounds like? It stands for something else? Does? Wow? I'm trying to come up with a way to make this clever, but there really isn't one. Well, if you have an electance of color, you know, it's funny. You can't call them color people. You can't say colored people, right, That's what I was say, electeds of color. That's what

kills me. This is ridiculous. I'll tell you what this I don't know. Yeah. C CMP, by the way, according according to my quick search, stands for counter counter mode with cipher blockchaining message. Yeah, it's too educated. For proud. Wow. Okay, so look forget it. It's that's just crazy to me. So okay, so none. It would have been easier to just say no whites, like, you know, non whites only party and see who shows up, right, I wondered, well,

ethnicity. They don't want to be that blunt. See that's the thing about the the left is progressive. They don't. They don't want to be so blunt. They want to make it sound like they really gave it some thought and everything is you know, super witty and thought out. But they don't think about you know, did anybody think that it was even possible that they would mistakenly invite all of the members? I don't know what white whitey

not welcome. That whitey not welcome might have been a more clever way to put it. But here's the problem. Here's another another problem with that though. Just because somebody appears white, right, how do you know? You know, because in the in the days here where we have identification based on what it is is in your mind? Right? Uh? Like that lady was, you know, when one of the Nuba CP leaders who considered herself black even though she was like Norwegian or whatever. Uh, and she had

done her said, what was her name, Sarah Disdal or whatever? Remember that a couple of years ago. Oh yeah, the one who had the hair like sideshow Bob. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh Dolas, I thought it was yeah, I thought it was a yeah Disdal. I don't know. Let's let's see if we can look that up. No, no, no, no, no, he's a soccer player. Hold, oh

that's a soccer What was her name? Let's see nuble a c you know what, I start to add and put it in a in a It's it's dalasol A d o l e z a L was president of the chapter in Spokane. Rashall. She's changed her name though she did finally take up some kind of I guess she assumes this is an African American name or something. Nick mckisshi Reari Diallo. Okay, that's that's yeah, definitely more black sounding. But the funny thing is, yeah, she had the sideshow Bob hare.

And then when she got fired and was out of work, I remember she was doing like foot porn on OnlyFans. Was the next thing they found out. And the funniest thing was, I gotta do what you gotta do

to pay the bills. Man, No, I got it. But the funniest thing was is the way Twitter reacted to it, in my mind, is that you know, people started posting some of the pictures, like, you know, some of the more tame pictures of her feet, and they were going, see, now, these are definitely the feet of a white woman, going, this is where we're can she forgot about the spray can

going all the way down? You definitely definitely you know, he got charged with Hey, I didn't know this, but she got charged with welfare fraud. Wow. I didn't know that either. Okay, Yeah, she was so during more than two years she received uh screw the paywall. Well here's the thing. Yeah, she received about sixty eight hundred bucks in assistance, but like between twenty fifteen and seventeen, so that they tried to nail her

for fraud. Fair enough, But going back to twenty at eighty thousand bucks. Yeah, going back to two thousand bucks at her bank account. Wow, Okay, Well, going back to twenty fifteen, just so everybody knows. And again I'm gonna try and put as many references in the room to these things as we go, and b Petell probably drops the too. We'll collect them all together for the podcast. But I just wanted to give people a reminder of the twenty fifteen incident where uh, you know, here we

go. What happened? Well, according to CNN dot com, Rachel dolls All or whatever however you say that name, fresh off of stepping down his head of the Spokane NAACP chapter over criticism that she's portrayed herself as black even though she was born white, stood by that assessment Tuesday, insisting I had identify as black in quotes that was her whole thing and let's see, did not deny her biological parents are white, or that she has changed now that

she has you know her look over the years and an interview on NBC's Today's Show, and she admitted not having corrected various published reports over the years labeling her as transracial, bi racial, and black. At the same time, Dalzell, while admitting she might have conducted some interviews differently, insisted she do the same thing again overall when it comes to how she was portrayed her how

she portrayed herself racheally and the quotes. My life has been one of survival, she said, and the decisions I have made along the way have been to survive and to carry forward in my journey and life continuum. Wow, yeah, I remember this was like striking that she just wasn't even apologetic about it. It just was what it was. And that's that funny stuff. But yeah, I remember that story and it was just too funny. Anyway. Yeah, that's what you reminded me of there. But here's the funny

part about this thing with the Boston mayor. Just real fast, and then I want you to move on to whatever else you see. And I'm going to take a look at these phone calls because I think we have a couple of callers on the line. Here's the funny part to me is that, Okay, so this wu lady in Boston, the mayor, how does she know what everybody identifies with? You know, in the liberal sense like this where somebody who is, you know, clearly white all the way around wants

to portray themselves as black. Maybe somebody's not exactly white and they're trying to pass you know, they used to call that passing racially right, where you try and pass yourself off as white. And that's a real thing that used to happen. But there could be some people on that council that are passing themselves off as white, so maybe they deserved an invite. One Two, do you know automatically the ethnicity or racial you know, classification for anybody?

And oh, by the way, why are we doing this racial classification thing? See? That's always the bottom line question to me, is the moment that you start trying to separate people out and you don't claim that at some point this becomes either racist or racialist in some way. Where where does the

dishonesty end and begin? It's always the grand philosophical question, you know, the moment, like I said, you start separating things out and you start becoming a separate This is not I'm just not you know, a person or an American or whatever on this or that or the third thing. I mean, I explained my ethnicity, my background is this way or that. But

oh my see, but that's just it. Though. We've gotten to a point, with all the political correctness and everything that has gone on over the years and the snowball effect that it's had and just gotten bigger and bigger and bigger. It's now at the point that the only race one that you can exclude or excoriate and not catch hell for it is the white race and the only race that someone can't promote. I mean, there's all this stuff going

on about the promote diversity, promote diversity. Okay, you can promote diversity unless you're white. The minute you promote the fact that you're proud of being white, you're immediately called nazi or member of the klan right off the bat. So of course you can exclude white commission members and it be accepted and you know, applauded in some areas. So you know, it's it's it's the end result of what we've been pushing and pushing and pushing when it comes

to race in this country. It's crazy, right, right. So there's other tech news and things. You got any other bullet point headlines you want to get to or should we start getting to the car? Yeah? I got blue State democrats demand jail time for people caught using gas powered gardening tools. This is in the state of Washington there. Yeah, that's how they want to fight climate changes. They want to put people in jail for using

a gas power lawn more. Let's see a Blaze journalist I found this interesting because it's so late after the fact. A Blaze journalist who cover January sixth is going to be charged by the DJ and was told when to show up and surrender himself. He still doesn't know what charges are. I think that's interesting that they, you know, this far after the fact, they're trying to go after somebody that could claim an exemption for being a you know,

a reporter covering the thing. A door Dash driver was carjacked by an eleven year old at gunpoint in Virginia. That's a shame. Now, I remember the day you go out to see an eleven year old on the street and you didn't have to worry about it when being out of a clock and taking your car crazy. Well, see, I never carjacked any I never carjacked anybody. But I was a little thug. And believe me, if you're in a bad enough neighborhood, you will find the uh you know, the

pee wee or the little League squad of thugness around it is there. Uh So not a shocker to me. The eleven year old has a gun, probably a bigger one. Got to have some intimidation factor, because if you're a little guy with a gun people still might try and take you out, so probably it's a bigger You know, I've seen some eleven year olds that are pretty pretty interesting looking size wise and stuff. I mean male or female on that. By the way, does it say let me let me scroll

back and find out. Probably a male, I don't know, most likely. Well look no, well, a female door dash driver has been carjack at gunpoint by an eleven year old child in Virginia. The alleged victim, Dion Smith, was robbed at gunpoint by the rocky by the young boy. She's making a delivery and apartment complex and curt on the four hundred block of West Overhells Boulevard. So okay, So a lady out there, A lady just trying to drop off some food got jacked by an eleven year year old

boy. Okay, go ahead, Yeah, Hunter Biden is getting paranoid now. He's worried that he'll have to flee the country if Trump wins. You know, the other day he accused Republicans of trying to kill him. So I guess we're getting the paranoid hunter now he play victim to the end. Judge strikes down a challenge to Texas ban in tiktak on government devices. They just basically both the door and threw it out, said we don't want to hear it. TikTok. Wait, wait, TikTok. They're pushing back against

the TikTok ban. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, somebody somebody, Yeah, somebody challenged the state or for saying that you couldn't have TikTok on government devices, and judge throw it out to keep whatever they want off of government devices. Your private device is something different, fair enough from the crunch. By the way, I got a headline here that TikTok becomes the first non game app to reach ten billion in consumer spending. Uh So there you

go. That's an an idea about how large TikTok has gotten. So there we go. Anyway, I'm putting all these things. I hope that you'll drop some of these links to these stories in the chat room be peat and I'll collect them all for the references out that when we get callers on, and I'll go back and i'll financial story. I'm just cruising the headlines right now. Great, I got three, I got three callers lined up, and I'm gonna get right to you when VP gets through his list, and

I'm gonna stop trying to interrupt him. Go ahead, let's see. Oh I found this interesting. The Trudeau government in Canada paid Twitter to influencers to promote COVID vaccines. Yeah, I find that real interesting. And there is a story that I'd caught my eye. And it's only because hey, by the way, just real fast, real fast, before you go any further, just I want to try and provide counterpoints here to some of these articles,

just to get people an idea of certain things. It's odd that that's even a headline story, because if you're aware and you were paying attention. In the US, plenty of US governments were paying everything from podcasters to YouTube to push vaccines. Why not those were government announcements, a bunch of them. In fact, I got a massive complaint because of one of the players,

one of the free players for my podcast. I got a tirade from somebody who was in California who heard Gavin Newsom break into my show while they were listening to a podcast. Okay, and because it was on one of these free players to tell them that they need to go get their flu shot and their COVID shot in California, so it was localized and targeted at them for their location, and it was a government announcement by the state of California.

Plus there was stuff that came through with President Trump at certain points during his administration announcements. So government turning around and utilizing any of these social media platforms or any of the uh, you know, any of the stuff that distributes information or entertainment in any way, shape or form. I don't even know why that's news because it's what we do. Hey, that's the American way for sure, or at least that's the pattern that we definitely saw.

The player. Yeah, well, the player on your website. Remember a while back when I told you I'd gone to and I said, I like the new player, But I was surprised when the ad come blasting in, Right, that's the player that you've got on your site. Does that I was listening the first time I listened to it. I'm in the middle of listening to your conversation and all of a sudden it stops and this ad just comes busting in. Wow, And I'm sure it's done off locality in the

region that you're listening in and they're going to direct it that way. But it surprised me that there wasn't even a even a fade down or anything. It's like if you weren't paying attention, it was scared the hell out of you. Well the commercial starts, Yeah, that's that's what it is. Is that, and it's not just that player, but apparently it's like every free player out there. Now, that's how they're supporting themselves. They give it to guys like me for free, you see, and just like they

give you an account for free or whatever. Right, and you post your little TikTok videos. Let's just say bpte you wanted to post I don't know, cat videos, something completely benign, right, And I'm watching it here in Georgia, going, oh, I like VP's cat videos on Twitter or on well yeah Twitter too, but also on TikTok. Well, very possible that I could get interrupted by a targeted commercial for something in Georgia. You know, go to go get your flu vaccine could be hitting me in Georgia,

except we don't have those ads. But you know, again, the guy listening in California apparently got barraged with a whole bunch of government based ads and any controls that I can exert over that stuff I do. But quite frankly, you can't control what these players do. And the only player that I own that should have absolutely zero See that's the fun part. The only player I own, which in which case I could put ads in it, but I don't, is the black player on Ocelli dot Com. That little

thing that actually has a part of my graphics on it. That's it, that thing that was coded and created specifically for me. Is the only player that's commercial free. Now, so you know what I'm saying. I'm just pointing out that this is just the new reality of now, you know. So go ahead, what else you got in the headlines? Because we got three four callers backed up? Now? Well, this one I found interesting only because the number of years that the country, the company's been in business.

When I was over in Switzerland, I was able to see some items that came from this place. As the Czech Republic, class Work ends production after two hundred and thirty years, laying off the majority of its employees. And we think about how this economy has affected us, Well, you know, with all the things going on in Ukraine and the problems they had last

winter with gas and things of that nature and energy costs. Well, the story is the historic vet in. The glassworks, situated in the Estraani municipality of Karski Cladista region of the Czech Republic, is set to halt its handmade glass production in January of next year, and it dated back to seventeen ninety four, so it says the decision comes as a result of story and energy prices over recent years, rendering the export focused business uncompetitive in the market.

Marek Malass, the director of the glasswork, cited a fourteen million crown annual increase in energy costs. I went and did the dollar conversion. Just there. Increase last year was six hundred and twenty six thousand dollars. Ooh in what in energy costs? Energy into one year? That was their increase. Wow, six hundred and twenty six thousand dollars. And it's with those kind of costs they can't compete with all the other companies that are in Europe.

So they're closing. And it's a shame. These guys have been making glass for two hundred and thirty years and can't stay in business. Yeah, I mean, how exactly I mean how how lucrative does glass have to be right in order for you to cover that sort of thing. Well, for the type of stuff that they did, it's very competitive and there's a big market for it. In Europe. Glass works are one of the major industries over there, just because of how prevalent is used in architecture and everyday items,

artwork, lamps. I mean, it's amazing the glass works that you see over there. Old. You know, that's one thing everybody if they get a chance to go to Europe and look at some of the things that are produced over there, that have been produced for three hundred years and look at the craftsmanship involved in them, it's just amazing. You don't get to see it here. It's a shame. Now. Well, look craftsmanship in the US, it's you know, it's a rarefied thing. You gotta you gotta

really search to find it. Another bullet point that I'm not going to cover, though, is the speaking of you know, increases and such like that. Apparently just this week or in the latest reports, we finally have something strange coming out. You know, everything is starting to adjust now in the rent rent everybody's rent is too high, Okay, everybody's mortgages were too high.

All that stuff is rough. But apparently in Manhattan, just recently they have the first, you know, decline in rents, just a slight decline. Over the past two years, there's been zero declines. Everything keeps climbing up week by week, month by month. And just like I brought up, how it is, I can't afford to live in Jersey. Trust me, you can't afford to live in Jersey. You can't afford to live in New York. It's kind of connected. And here's the deal. It's finally

starting to actually slow down. You know, they were saying, you know, the inflationary curve problem was slowing down BS. It's starting to slow down in the rents. And that makes me wonder exactly where it's going to slow down next and what that's going to look like, because I know some people have reported their wages have gone up in certain places, but it's not enough to wipe out the massive increases in energy like you were talking about, and

rent like I just brought up. So we'll leave that and that. What else you got to repeat before we get to the callers. Well, one last story here, and only because this was the World Economic Forum was in the title and I Happen to Spy In it says the the WF demands three point five trillion dollars per year to decarbonize Earth, and they demand the three

point five trillion dollars per year from guess who su the taxpayer. The World Economic Forum is demanding the taxpayers around the globe pay three point five trillion per year in order to meet the globalist organization's net zero goal for decarbonizing the planet. The WEF insists that the staggering bill is necessary as it will fund the noble global power. It leads alleged efforts to reach net zero and restore nature.

Which makes me wonder, if you take away all the carbon in the Earth, then what are the trees gonna breathe and turn around and give us oxygen? Now, that massive number thought that far. Yeah, the only counter thing I have to say to that massive number on the taxpayer is this, if you spread that out across the entire planet, how bad is that on the taxpayer? I'm not sure, you know. Is it a ridiculous notion? And it's even even if it were a penny per person. It's

demanding on the taxpayer to decarbonize the planet. You know, the difference between organic chemistry and chemistry is whether something contains carbon. You know, so think about it. Even to decarbonize the planet. No, I understand what we're going to start decarbonizing ourselves. Yeah, no, I understand that. Part

of the discussion. What I'm saying is what is the massive I mean, after all, one could easily argue, and many people do, and I hear this all the time that all taxation is theft, but here we go, it is. But what do you get for your money? And if what you're getting for your money is removal of carbon from the planet, I

don't know how you do that? Uh right? Because wow, oh well, they've already talked about all these carbon capturing and store plants, but they're too expensive to implement, you know, implement the things because of the cost involved in the the machinery for one to be able to do it. Yeah, they've already got plans out there. It'll you know, scrub the scrub the atmosphere of carbon. It's just you know, you can't afford to do

it. It's ridiculous. I mean, it's and and who is the World Economic form anyway that the man taxes on me bits on those rich bastards. Well, they are one of the arms of the uh, you know, the the powers that should not be right. It's yeah, So anyway, just just letting you know. And there's a couple of media news things that I'm dropping in the chatroom at ochelli dot com. And obviously not only are we open to discussing all these topics, but anything else you have on your

mind. So with that, I think we should start getting to them in order of appearance on the phone lines. What do you think, b Peter, you got something else you want to drop? Last minute? Now we can go to them. I'm looking up a few other things. I'm also having to find out when our you know, historic naked news guy is gonna finally go to court. Maybe all right, the original naked news guy. There might be an update on that. I'm checking. No problem been postponed

again, Let's get to that later. Let's see. Now it looks like hmm, I got different guys at different times here. Huh. All right, I think somebody might have hung up and come back on the line. But I'm gonna go with the times on hold as they appear, which might be out of order. So my apologies if I'm screwing you guys a little bit, but I'll try and get around to everybody quickly for a quick drop in before we get into the topics. Let's see. First off, we

got Harlan on the line. Harlan, how you doing man? Hey man, I'm just trying to live. How you do it? Hey, I'm just trying to live too, So I'll tell you what. Keep yourself locked and loaded. Let's get around to everybody to just say hello first and then see where we go from there. I almost think that Jimmy James came before you, but according to my computer screen, he didn't, so it's weird. Let me put you on hold for a second. Think about what it

is you want to drop on here. You could add on to one of the topics we already covered, or something brand new. So hold on and let's see. I think this will be Jimmy James next in line. Jimmy, how you doing tonight? Man? Doing good? Here? Excellent? So you got something locked and loaded ready to roll? Or what you need a little more time to think about it, what's on your mind? And if you need commentary I'm here for you, all right, I al,

you're a tool. This guy just called himself a tool. I'm gonna put him on hold. But let's get around and say a load of vance vance. How's it going, banner Ki himself. I'm just fantastic. You're fantastic. I'm sure you have something in mind, and you might resemble that remark

I brought up just a bit ago about all taxation being theft. Maybe, although you usually don't use common phrases like that, but you might agree that the only reason why anybody pays their taxes is because of the threat of violence, and therefore that's the way it rolls. And anytime somebody takes money from you with the threat of violence behind it, legally speaking, usually that's called

robbery. So it is theft. I mean, right, I'd like to put a little finer point on it, usually that you know, technically theft with that taxation, with that representation is theft. So you know, I definitely we're being represented very well. I think our taxation is going to support corporations, and you know we'll see there therein is the core problem, as far as I'm concerned, is that are you being represented and yeah, I thought that was one of those things that still teaching school. In fact is

that revolution was brought about because of taxation without representation. So I'm gonna put you on hold and remind everybody listening to us live if you're hearing us on the fifteenth day of December twenty twenty three, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, if you're hearing us, then at about let's see what time it is, Oh Jesus, already after nine, just after nine pm

Eastern uh. Here on Ocelli dot com. If you're hearing us live, you can call in three one nine five two seven five zero one six three one nine five two seven five zero one six, or reach out to me Charles dot o'ceelly on Skype and I will call you into the show if you like, especially international listeners, and I'll check and see if I can see

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think that's what they wanted. They just wanted to sell me their private cams and stuff. And it wouldn't even be as funny or interesting as Rachel whatever her name is, with the foot porn and the white feet, which was too funny the way people were just screaming that, you know, all different ways it was white woman's feet. Anyway. I don't know why I keep remembering that. But let's move forward and go back around to who we started with, which would be Harlan, and see what he's got on his mind

tonight. Harlan what she got for us? Man, I got lesson but to complaints. I mean, I ain't nobody won't list I won't lose bitch and Moan. But you know, we might have to see if we can't catch it. That flight with Hunter out of the country, because you know, we've criticized the Chosen One too much in the last few years. He

let me ask you a dumb question, Harland just real fast. And this is a dumb question, but I mean, if you were Hunter Biden and you were still free and Trump was selected to office, might you not think that, regardless of what you have done or have not done, you might want to leave the country anyway. I mean, I might think of it as a defensive move, not saying it's right and people shouldn't be held accountable

and all. But tell you what, if I had the means to get away from the long arm of the law that I know is more than happy to jump on my head, whether they should or shouldn't, I might be willing to leave the country. You know, I'm just saying, is it not understandable? Or am I out of line there? Harlan? What do you think? Wait? You know, just to be honest, maybe if I was in a situation and it had his money and his means, Yeah, I believe I just you know, five men island somewhere to go to,

right, That's what I was thinking. But anyway, go ahead and throw out your complaints. Well, it's been cold, that's one thing. It's just been real. I mean, I I'm just too tander for his cold weather anymore, right, getting too old? I don't know. Yeah, hey, b Pete, we didn't get a weather we didn't get a weather report from BPTE today. That's unusual. But I'll get back to you on that in a minute. B Pete. So it's cold out. This

is your wait a minute, this is your big complaint, Harland. You got nothing to complain about leading up to the holiday season or anything like that, or you know, the prices of things or I mean, obviously we can tell you. Yeah, you know, we'll hits that at rent two. And by the way, you don't never forget one. Not only was Gavin News out gauging that jab, you know, the orange one, was I all about you taking the jabs first and don't ask questions lady, if

that's beside the point. And he wants you to take the jabs first and never go to court, you know, I mean, he likes, you know, take the guns first, thing go to court. They know he don't want you to go to court for taking his jabs. But anyway, the rent is just too damn high. I don't know if anybody else I don't rent. Thank god, I'm not a poor soul stuck in that situation. Rent is the biggest form of usually that I believe they ever are.

I mean, it's worser than a ninety percent pay day loan because you get nothing back. You're not paying any principal abount. But the rent has this gut too damn high. And if anybody else, um BP may remember this, maybe even Vance and Jimmy. There was a guy I run for president. I believe it was in two thousand and eight. His name was Jimmy The rints too damn high. If I'm not mistaken. He was from New York City. The other black guy, white hair, white mustache and beard.

Anybody remember him? Oh yeah, I certainly do. Vpete. Do you recall that game? Yeah, definitely, right, and I thank you fast away. I think I've seen a story on that. But you know, I can't believe nobody's not brown him back up in the last three or four years. That's this rents Yes high mm hmm, No, definitely, especially with the spikes. You're talking about. Jimmy, Jimmy McMillan, right, Yeah, I can't remember his last name, but I remember his first

name was Jimmy at that time. Is his last name was high? You know, he's a Vietnam is a Vietnam Vet. Yeah, yeah, so according to uh. According to Wikipedia, Jimmy McMillan the third Yeah, was born in nineteen forty six and was an American politician or is an American politician, an activist. And let's see. I don't think he's dead, is he. Let's see, No, he's not that. No he's not really yeah, let's see. Uh president of the United States in twenty Yeah,

this was his twenty sixteen attempt. He tried to run for president in twenty sixteen. So okay, goo, go ahead, sorry good. I doubt he won. I thought he ran locking six thy twelve or so, hm, oh, yeah, he's run multiple times, multiply like six or seven times. He's yeah again, I'll read from the Wikipedia real fast. McMillan ran for office at least six times since nineteen ninety three, most notably in the twenty ten New York gubernatorial election. That's where he got famous with this

thing. He declared in December twenty ten that he would run in the twenty twelve US presidential election as a Republican. He did not appear on the ballot in any state and suspended his campaign to return to the rent is two damn high party and run for mayor of New York in twenty thirteen election. He attempted to run for governor again in twenty fourteen election, but did not make the ballot. This guy kept trying to get on ballots and couldn't get on

nationally or in New York for the governor and everything else. He was able to get on in the mayoral race, but he got famous because everybody was noting that the rents were too high, and geez, why isn't this guy coming out of retirement? Now? He did announce apparently a retirement according to the website and all that. So okay, I just want to check because I thought you said he had passed away, Arlyn, Yeah he didn't.

Jimmy McGowan is still about it. Yeah, well that's one thing I liked I had, and I'm passioned on around to answered Jimmy, there's no danger of remember getting around as repoked. Well, we know he ain't a conserved because conservatives. What happened to conserve besides high prissies in low wages? All right, and he wouldn't be a conservative. Yeah, and look if his

key thing was about the rent is too damn high. Then that means he wouldn't be taking the litmus test right now of do you bow to Orange Jesus or not, which would be a Republican test, right, I mean, that would be all there. I mean, that's that seems to me to be the main question for qualification when it comes to gop Lan speaking of the Orange Jesus and Leus Daney's boot. Maybe Jimmy can comment on this. Maybe he's saying this, but you know, Dick was Keney there, she said,

alleged Dick was Keaney. She said her book, what go ahead. I'm sorry. That cracked me up. I didn't mean to I I that was that was an outburst. I didn't mean to have. But alleged Dick was that's pretty fair. Yeah good, you know, But anyway she's supposed to send in her book. I saw a week or so ago one of the representatives from Tennessee uh US represented Mark Green, was signing some pledge back around January sixth to the twenty twenty election to where he's supposed to be shrigged

off and said the things that we do for the Orange Jesus. You know, you can google that and probably find it even beat theene pull that you can the skiss. But I'll passion on around and Lance and Jimmy and you can come back to me. I'm gonna running wild, Martin. I'll be sitting there listening fair enough. So all right, let's put Harlan on hold and we'll come back around to him. So, b Pete, I think, let me just double check this, but yeah, it appears as though

Jimmy James is up next. You got anything you want to add before we let Jimmy loose on the line. Oh no, I'm just gonna add one other things. And that was the actor Andre Brower passed away this past week, which is a shame. He was a great loss. Didn't we have a few famous deaths this week? Or am I imagining things like the past two weeks? Wasn't there a couple of famous deaths? Yeah, we had a couple in there. You know Ryan O'Neal. Well, Ryan O'Neal was

last week. He died last Friday. Who else I'll look him up. Yeah, let's gather those up, the people that died this month that were noteworthy before we move forward. Yes, he you can get that while we bring Jimmy on the line and let him throw on the table whatever it is he likes. Yeah, I don't really know what Harlan was talking about other than less. Cheney apparently wrote a book and included a note which called Trump

orange Jesus. Yeah that's interesting. But here's a little tippy pooh. I could drink three bottles of Mailocks and still not give a shit about anything that Liz Cheney or any channing things. Thank you, m So you are an anti Cheney, Yeah, all the way around. Yeah, I've got no use for him, his family, et cetera. Fair enough. I found it funny that Harlan said alleged dicklass Cheney, which is pretty funny. Uh, dicklass Cheney is funny enough. See I heard thought. I thought he

called Liz Cheney Nicholas Cheney. Oh no, he said no, he said, I don't even know what the hell he was talking about. No problem, like a bunch of him. No problem, yess he picks Then anything some a conservative or a conservative, Well, look any which way you go,

forget about it. Then how about you address whatever it is you feel like addressing anything that you found of high interest in the news this week outside of uh, I'm sure you found it interesting that Hunter Biden got slapped with those charges, But other than that, anything else that you found interesting in the news this week. I always find what's interesting about the news is the way they train it and what they don't talk about in the news. I

don't care that. Okay, so they filed some tax charges for not so they're for not playing US taxes. Some who cares? Where did the money come from? I don't care about him that CANUS taxes. I want to what about him not registering as a foreign agent? What about Joe Biden being a foreign agent? What about two hundred suspicious activities reports? No one gives a crap about his taxes? Well, Jimmy, wouldn't his taxes? Though?

Help you to understand, because when you report your taxes, you got to say where they came from and why you got them, right, I mean, so at some point, Yeah, they have the man's computers. They know every they could just look hm, fair enough. But I'm thinking that maybe there's stuff that isn't on those computers that could be gleaned if they get a lead off of the taxes somehow. No, uh, you know.

In fact, I just want to point out that his criminality doesn't even really need to be if you want to the true purpose of teaching a president is for high crimes in this demeanors him in office, and otherwise he's grown up so bad he needs to be removed. He needs to be brought up on teachment charges of the way he's running or not running the country. Okay, sorry, God, I was going to say, I heard that you

said two hundred SAARs. I think I heard a number the other day that it was even more than that, but I cannot remember the number, and I'm trying to look for the news story. It is amazing that a family can generate that many suspicious activity reports and the FBI just kind of fold them up and throw them in the circuit of file. It's crazy, and anyone else if they had one of them, their lives would be wrong. Isn't it unusual how people in positions of privilege get that kind of thing? Huh

yeah, sure. So when you're talking about impeachment, though, that means that really you don't care about what Hunter Biden was doing anyway, except where it relates to what Joe Biden was doing, because he's the only one that actually held in office, right, well, exactly counter Biden to quote the president of Breize when it's a stupid is no more stupid than his dog. That's a quote from the President of Breeze. Well okay, uh, Joe Biden is the uh, the don if you will of the Biden Krim crime

family syndicate and all this it's all there right in public record. And I'm getting sick of these Democrat rats. Where's the evidence? Where's the habitats? Wa? Are you blind? Death and dumb? My god? Have you ever heard of the internet? M What what do you think is the biggest most egregious thing that is that is obvious on the list of many that that should be just you know, a given like here's here's just the facts straight up. What what is the thing up front that is the biggest jimmy in

your mind? Well, the man doesn't do his job. It's his job according to Article to the Constitution, to enforce the laws of the United States. So article one should be failure at the southern borders. And a few sharlan he said something about I said the eleven illegal aliens were in the United States and all that, so many cross over under Joe Biden's three years in office according to them. Okay, so you think that's the biggest issue,

that should be the most obvious impeachable guaranteed. Here's your crime, your high crime or misdemeanor right there. It's his failure to do anything regarding law enforcement at the southern border. Is that correct? That would be number one? Oka, And I would look at Afghanistan. That would be make a nice

number two. Okay. So the disastrous withdraw from Afghanistan and the failure to do that even remotely cleanly, or so on and so forth, the people that got killed in the process, all of that should be the second thing that is attached to that impeachment. Is that what you're saying? Oh, yeah, okay, you got a number three? Or should we leave it at just the two for now? No, we have to go to three. He's ignoring the Supreme Court and gone ahead and dismissed half a trillion dollars

in studid debt. So he's circummended. He feels that he is a dictator, tirant, he is Augustice Joe Biden. Well, I would say that plenty of these presidents with these executive orders have done that that's so common. I mean, it's you know, I don't know if that's if that's a big shocker or should be to anybody, But that's my argument because I think the executive orders has gotten way way out of control. I remember everybody getting upset over Obama saying I've got a pen in a phone? Remember that?

Yeah? How about that? They shoot kind of a philosophy there kind of looks that way, doesn't it. So that's Jimmy James. Anything you want to add, Bpete, I'm gonna put Jimmy on hold and we'll get back around to him, and of course we'll get around the new callers as they emerge. If you join us, I'll bring you into the rotation ahead of everybody else. Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six is

the number to call. But B Pete, anything you want to add to uh, Jimmy or do you think maybe he's got those articles of impeachment out of order? What are your thoughts there? Or you got anything else you want to add? Well? I mean the border stuff is pretty obvious. They could nail him on that, you know, first article right off the bat. But with this, now that they voted to at least have a

hearing we might exactly find out what the total is. I mean, I'm up to about forty million in foreign money going to the bidens, and you know we Biden is on tape saying no nobody ever received any money from China. Well, we know that's a lie. Nope, I didn't know anything about any of the businesses, never had a discussion with anybody. We know

that's a lie. And now they have been able to start tracing checks written from his brother to him at the time when two hundred thousand dollars payment comes in from a Chinese energy company and is immediately his brother writes, good old Joe, the big guy, a two hundred thousand dollars check. You know. So, yeah, I'd be very curious to see what the total amounts of money coming into those bastards are, because that guy is as crooked as

they come. As they've been doing this shit for years and getting away with it, and he thinks he's going to get away with him this time, well as most of them do. Anyways, let's go over to Vance and see if he wants to add anything to this discussion or bring us somewhere else. That's me. I'm just trying to figure out how is it that that that Biden took over the FBI and and you know, allowed all this stuff to go, you know, un challenged, and you know, without being

challenge of me. It just goes to show to me in and that showed that you know, that's because the system is corrupt. You know, you can point to this type of behavior on both sides of the aisle all throughout history. You know, Ronald Reagan saying, you know, I swear we did We didn't you know, trade drugs for weapons. You know, Oh, but yeah we did, you know, but you know nobody got you know, the charged or you know, in trouble for any of that.

That the whole Hillary would be in jail if I'm the president, and Trump had plenty of times you know, there's obvious that you know, according to you know, the laws, the way it read or whatever, that you know, what she did was a crime. But you know he didn't,

you know, somehow couldn't make that happen during his presidency. So is that because you know, all of a sudden decided she was a great person and good family and you know didn't really matter, or is it because he can't do anything about it because you know, you know the Yeah, that's always been one of my big questions. Combination b Pete is a good, good, good way to look at it, right, Vance, I mean it could be you know, a little column, a little column b right where

it's not just one thing. And my overall question has been throughout this thing, when you don't have Okay, Trump was going to put the best people in, right, Well, if he put the best people in, and most of those same people are still in charge of these agencies for the most part. I mean Biden's still working with his FBI director, his director at the Post Office, his director at this That the third thing, I mean, yeah, yeah, the cabinet officers changed for the most part, but

are all together. But outside of that, a lot of the people that are like these appointed heads of agencies are still in place. So one wonders if it was you know, is there any opposition to the opposition? Vance good An say, well, sorry, VPTE wanted to get in. Then we'll then we'll get back to you, Vance, hold on good Be Pete.

Yeah, I was just gonna say, there's a lot of there's a lot of behind US scene connections that a lot of people don't realize when you go back and look at these past administrations, like the Obama administration back to the Clinton administration, and who was the guy that was in New Mexico, Bill what's his name? He was head of what the EPA or something there for? Was it Richardson? Anyway, he was governor out there in New

Mexico for a while. This guy had connections to everybody. Leon Panetta has got connections to everybody. It doesn't matter which party you are, And these guys travel in circles where a party doesn't matter. What matters is who else you know and who else you're connected to in the Washington realm of things. So there's a lot of deals that you'll find out after the fact when these guys do leave office. There's a lot of Obama people that are working for

Biden. You can basically consider his administration and the people that came with him and that he put in these positions are all Obama people. But you've still got people involved like Ray who was appointed by Trump, but he wasn't loyal to Trump. He's loyal to the insiders that he's been connected with for the past twenty years in DC. That's where his loyalty lies. So it's very

easy for a DOJ to come under influence of it. Just so happens that you have a Democrat in the White House, but the FBI and the DOJA have got these career government employees he's connected to him that are partisan as hell. They may wear a label, but that doesn't direct what they do once they're in there. So it's very easy for someone like Ray who was appointed by Trump, who as an outsider, really didn't have the end to know

who was who when he started appointing people. Think about that. You know, he didn't have the DC connections that most of these politicians have. And being an outsider, well, when people start advising, well, who's going to be good for that job, Let's get our guy in the slot. Now, oh we recommend this guy. Yeah, he'd be good. Yeah, pick him. Yeah, that's how this crap happens. It's more behind the scenes connections than who put him in the position. Oh, absolutely true.

But that's the funny part though, when I hear the reason why I bring it up is not necessarily because of the reality of it and how you know what it's a matter of That's why I always wind up defaulting to the system defends itself. That is what the deal is overall. It's not about these you know, these political labels are for you kiddies to play with, you know what I'm saying. It's not for the grownups. That's for you guys to play with. You you think it's a big deal because somebody's wearing

a blue shirt, somebody's wearing a red shirt. They're on this team or

that team. But the truth is they all work for the organization. So when people are rooting for the same guy though four years ago and saying that he's a good guy because he was appointed by somebody else, they were just as wrong then as they are now to be criticizing them based on you know what I'm saying, Like, in other words, well you can't tell me that, well he was great when this guy brought him in, but now ever since you know, it's like I literally heard somebody earlier this week saying

that the post office is screwed up because of Joe Biden, and I said, well, that makes zero sense because it was already get messy, right, and everybody remembers the complaining, especially because of the uh, you know, the tests going out, the masks going out, the ballad's going out, right, all that stuff happened simultaneously, and all of that was going on. What under Trump, all of those things that were bad, then they were bad because of who he put in. That guy sucks no matter

who's in the president's slot. You get it. So you know, it's not like he was good when when one guy was allegedly his boss, and now he's not good when somebody else was his boss. It's the same guy. It just it just kills me. It's like there's a failure of understanding to wrap people's minds around what you just said, be Pete, which is

it doesn't really matter what their designation is. You gotta you can't understand these people unless you know who they're connected to, who they're beholding to, who they owe some allegiance to because a lot of money was put in their pocket, or they were given these positions for one reason or another. They were giving jobs, or they were giving jobs a handout, et cetera, et

cetera. A good example, but a good example of that is like when Trump came in, look at the whole cabal with Peter Stroke and whoever the female he was banging and he was cheating on his wife, he was cheating on her husband on all of these people that were involved in the FBI who

did what they could to ruin Trump coming into office. You know, who would have thought that office people in the FBI would be able to have the effect that they had when they started investigating him and checking into all these rumors about Russia and things like that. You got these little groups all through government that can sit there and just sabotage something going on. And they're just a bunch of damn partisan career employees that have been there for the past twenty years.

They really need to go home and find another place to work. You know, what can you do about them? We're going to see it no matter who wins the next election. We're going to see the little things pop up again. Once the new person comes in, the old established guard that's there doesn't want to have to put up with him. I mean, it's

a never ending it's a never ending cycle. Now it's a shame, well, right, but I mean the perfect example of this is, you know, James Comy was a big controversial figure for a minute and it's funny to me he should be in jail. Well, love should be in jail. Will he ever go now? But what's funny about Comy to me is that there's a certain point at which a lot of people weren't calling for him to go to jail. And that's when what he turns around and drops that bomb

about Hillary Clinton right before the selection. And hey, he was a hero at that point, right to a lot of people, because he was actually kicking the shins of the you know, the Clinton crime family and definitely screwing up her chances bringing back that investigation. That's a major misconception from all that.

Oh, he had an effect on the election because he pulled that out right before or it was in October when it came out, and it's like, no, he did it so he could turn around and say we're going to do nothing about it. That didn't ruin Hillary's chances for getting elected. Everybody says, oh, yeah, Comy, he came out, pulled his bombshell, and he ruined it for Hillary. Well he didn't, because he turned a right around and said, what, no pro futer in his right

mind would pursue these charges. Well, that's what they're doing now against certain individuals. So I don't know where you get that. You know, Comy was pulling for a Hillary thing, because that's all a bunch of bull, that was all designed, that was theater at his best. Well, I don't know, man. I tend to disagree with you that that might have caused problems there for some people who might have said, wow, you mean

there's still an open investigation. If you were a little undecided and you were trying to say, well, maybe I should give the outsider a chance, I bet you did change some minds. I'll bet you did. Ask for

whether it mattered or not, that's another question. But you know, well, certainly not the reason that Hillary lost lost because nobody could stand her and anybody to say that it was you know, what Kobe did affected the election, it's just flat out bull because he turned right around and said, oh yeah. And you know they reopened it because they found the stuff on Anthony

Whiter's computer that had come from his wife. They had come from Hillary, So you know they Okay, we investigated her nothing burger, and then a few weeks later all the way we found his stuff and it was leaked that they found it that's the only reason he had to address it. So he goes out there for another puppet show and says, oh, yes, we found this, we checked into it, and nothing from it. We're not going to prosecute. Nobody in the right mind would let it die. Well,

it was all theaters in my first script. It's exactly it was. But it's not the thing that caused her to lose. You're right there, I know, I said, I'm one of the few people who said back then, by the way, the whole reason why is because she is so undesirable as a candidate, the public so ridiculous that they couldn't even fake steal that thing for her, handed to her and have people believe it. There was no way in hell that anybody would have bought it. Because now sue

women. There's only two women in the world that I will refer to with the sea word without taking a breath, and as Judi Farry Baker and Hillary Clinton. There's a couple more that might be on the list temporarily, but those two permanent status, that's right, President, vice president of the club. That's rough. Well, look, I definitely agree with both of them. But you know, but the thing is to say that it had zero effect is also incorrect. But to say that it was the thing that changed

anything significantly, No, it didn't. She was that literally, it was like trying to sell new coke. It wasn't gonna work anyway. Vance, she was toasted the minute she announced, you know, when they pulled that crap on Bernie Sanders right then and there. I mean, she was toasty they And that's I've always said, that's the reason Donald Trump did to run as a Democrat Betaillery in the damn primary. Yeah, well, she had that on lock. And it wasn't because she was so popular and beloved.

It's just she had it on lock. Anyways. Vance, Right, so Vance, you go ahead and take us to the break. And this way we'll get to at least one break here, because otherwise I think VPT and I could bat this thing back and forth all night. And I'd like to see from you guys. Okay, I'd like to see you guys call in some new people, some extra people. I might even get to a paste

article here, a love letter to Sabbath, bloody Sabbath. Before before we're done, maybe I'll just drop in the chatroom at ochelly dot com and we might get an update on the Naked News guy the originator there, but who knows who knows what comes next? And vance you tell us what's on your mind next, and we'll let you go for a bit till we go to

break. Go ahead, man, just chip in on the Hillary Clinton or whatever that you know that I can't believe anybody you know would vote for Joe Biden or for Trump or you know, it's like I don't understand how half the people you know, can you know, justify whatever following any of these people, you know that it's you know, I can see how Trump's you know, uh, theatrical style you know, is attractive and you know,

draws attention or whatever. So I do understand that aspect of it. But it's just like, you know, I'm tired of hearing the same old, same old over. It's just like Lucy Parson said, the thing, I care not what a person, a candidate out of power, you know, promises they make, because you know, they never follow through on anything, and then they just blame it all on you know, the other side.

And that's just the way that the script you know, plays out. So you know, it's it's getting hard to not understand that at this point. So hopefully, you know, we'll we'll figure something out. I don't know what was that. Did you hear that scream? I heard a noise? Yeah, I'm not sure what that was. We got go ahead? Yeah I didn't Yeah, good, Yeah, I was just I was switching my mouth out listening to Vance talk, and all of a sudden I got called on there. So good. Sorry, God, Now that was it?

Like I say, you know, I uh, you know that it's evident to me that you know, there are the people behind the strings if you got to set up where you know, the c I A. And you know that there was one CIA officer that was cool to saying that they considered the president to be a transient. You know that, you know, it

doesn't really matter who the president is. That you know, there's you know, there there's somebody that they're reporting to you, and it ain't necessarily the president's So you know, I wish I could expand further in a in a you know, verifiable way or whatever, but it seems fairly obvious to me.

Now I'd look obvious to me too. And there there's an idea here where a lot of things are transient, but there are still the edifice, the the structures of power that remain intact no matter who is selected, no matter what monetary policy is introduced, no matter what laws are passed, et cetera. There is always a sustainable inner core. The continuity of government continues right to borrow a phrase, no matter what they are coming together around.

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is there or another that well left planet Earth this year. So I mean we could probably re examine that on a twenty twenty three end of the year show, which we only got like two more left right this year. Yeah, next week for Christmas and then next week for New Years. So that's it. And of course, if you're listening live this Monday, by the way, there'll be something going out on the live stream about an hour before my normal showtime, just so you guys know. Can't announce what it is,

but it'll be there on the live stream. On Sunday, Aaron Prons will have a guest on the Age of Transitions live and this will be an interesting guest, especially in Aaron's world for sure, based on his focuses. There is Larry Hancock had to be rescheduled for this upcoming Wednesday. I have a special guest plan for Tuesday, Mike Swanson on Thursday, and yeah, we will have another call in and one of these two shows we're gonna have

to kind of wrap up the year. So that's coming up. Did you want to go through the list of the people we lost this year or you want to save that from the end of the year show? Oh, well, we can save it for the end of the year. But you had made a comment here recently we'd lost something. Yeah, you know, I had mentioned Brian O'Neill and Andre Brower, but the week before that we lost Norman Lear, Sandra Dale, O'Connor, Hendry Kissinger, some big names.

Yeah, Norman Lear definitely interesting if you watch TV at all in the seventies, eighties, maybe the sixties too, huh. I don't remember if it was the sixties, but definitely in the seventies he owned a good chunk of what you were watching on TV, you know, all in the Family and the Jeffersons, and jeez, what else did he do? Wasn't he didn't he do good times? Also? Wasn't that one of his? Yeah?

He had All the Family, Good Times, Maud, the Jeffersons, well what else, Jesus, I can't think of it now, Yeah, good times, good times to bot. I didn't realize it for a long time that he had been behind that as well. But I mean he made an influence, you know, started with All in the Family and all of their spin offs, and he really had an influence on TV in the direction of

especially of sitcoms, right. And the interesting thing is, yeah, there was a bunch of spin offs from All in the Family, the Jeffersons, of course, Archie Bunker's Place. Obviously, there was some show that they had I think for a minute there with it was like just meant to follow the daughter, you know, what was her name again, Sally Struthers.

She winds up doing the Feed Africa commercials and all that later. But anyways, I say, we get back around to the callers, and you still have time to jump in, probably about around thirty minutes or so left to the show. We're going to go over time. So if you want to join us and you're hearing us live on the fifteenth of December twenty twenty three, three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six is

the number to call. We've got a couple that have hung out. It looks like we might have lost Harlan, but if he comes back, we'll put him back in. Uh, and anybody else who joins us three one nine, five two seven five zero one six. So yeah, with that, I think we should get back around to looks like Jimmy still on hold. Yeah, Jimmy, we should get back around to him. Let him add him whatever he wants to add in here. Uh, and we'll slow roll it so we don't have a tight like Okay, getting your last word

for the week. Let's let's let him have their say on anything they want to talk about and drop their last word in what do you think of that? And that's probably the time we can. But I'd like to ask all of them to answer a question as well, in addition to their final words. Do they think die Hard was a Christmas movie? Okay? So the weird debate. I've heard this debate and I don't know who debates it.

It's just one of those things I've seen reported, but I've never known anybody that personally debated this, Like you know, I've heard people debate over Star Wars. I've heard people debate over who's a good actor? Is somebody good looking? Did somebody just you know, did this person make a deal with the devil? Because they've got no talent, but they still seem to be

getting acting jobs. Like George Clooney. You know, he's a terrible actor the way I see it, absolutely awful actor in fact, And I don't know ladies think he's good looking. I don't see how. It's really weird, almost like deal with the devil this guy made in order to make sure. I don't know George Clooney, but anyway, my opinion, maybe it's not yours. Anyways, Yeah, weird stuff like that. But I've never heard anybody in like real life. I've only seen this in publications on YouTube,

on TV show, Uh is die Hard a Christmas movie? You do you find that? B Peter? Do you actually know people that have this debate? Just before I ask every question, I'll have sat around with people and argued this thing for the wee hours of the morning, sit around the bar closing it down. Yeah, it's a debate. It's a legitimate thing. See bars that I would go to, I mean, you know, some of them were not in my music days. And stuff, and but

I mean arguments over sports figures. Right, would would Mike Tyson have beaten the hell out of Muhammad Ali? You know? Stuff like this? Or should Pete Rose be allowed into the Hall of Hall of Fame? One? I mean, this is just this is just as a legitimate of debate as should Pete Rose be allowed in the Hall of Fame? And is die Hard a Christmas movie? And if you're in a bar that's a complete sausage party? I mean, uh, what's your real preference? Do you like the

big knockers or the small ones? You know, stuff like that? Right? Uh? Non white women, what's your favorite? These used to be politically in correct debates. Locker room talk would happen when the sausage party was in effect at the corner bar. Stuff like that would happen. As a matter of fact, We've got an expert on bar discussions vance, so we'll have to ask Mance if he's ever had the Diehard debate at the bar for sure. But yeah, so I want to know. I never seen this

in person though myself. B Pete has all those other things you just brought up, though absolutely I've seen him hurt him and of course the debates of

the current event of the day, is this right or wrong? Politics, etc. Although that's gotten a whole lot more hostile in recent years, it seems like to me, but then again, I remember hostility also in the Reagan era there was a lot of intense hostility, but I don't know, it didn't get to the level of the post Trump you know time period where it just I don't know, kind of went a little more all in. It looks like to me, but maybe again it's just me and your experiences

could vary. So yeah, okay, well ask each of them the die hard question and then let them throw whatever it is they want on the table for a couple of minutes, and then we'll get to a final word. And the only thing that can interrupt that is new callers three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call or reach out to me Charles dot o'celly on Skype. And I'm gonna start doing more pre

advertising. See if we can't, you know, rope in a few extra callers, because I would like to hear more so that I have trouble juggling them. It might get more interesting. Hell, I'd even take a prank call at this point, just just to knock things off balance and make it more interesting. No offense to the guys who call in. I love you guys that still call in all the time, but I really wish that some of you that I know are sitting there listening and you're not at work.

I mean, I understand when you're at work, but if you're not at work, I mean call in. Man. You can throw in anything you want on this show, so you know it's wide open. Doesn't even have to be serious. Obviously. I try and add levity to every show. So anyway, with that, I guess we'll go to Jimmy James first and see if he's got anything to say about the Diehard movie controversy. Is it a Christmas movie for starters? And secondly, whatever else it is he wants

to throw on the table. So okay, Jimmy, hopefully you heard me there and you got the question so I don't have to repeat it. You're alive though, go ahead? Ye all right, I'm a powerman two thousand through this thing. Yeah, I took some notes. First off, Yes, die Hard is a die Hard is a holiday movie, and yes, Bruce willis is Santa Claus. I'm clooney. I disagree. I think is

a good actor, but a horrible human being. Moving up, as far as the bureocracy, some of these appointed terms such as FBI director, postal inspector are for ten years because they weren't supposed to be political. That's something new. Yeah, And now, where is the Jimmy James in the Constitution? As far as the military? Answered Article eleven? Where is the bureaucracy? Answered? You won't find it? Where is official? Dumb? Answered, you will not find it? Where is the spookery? Oh you'll find

it. How it's absolutely not constitutional to be run national police nor intelligence agencies in the United States. And I want to get on a little bit under the Constitution because I don't think there's a lot of people on here that know exactly what's in that thing. I just want to speak as to what it is and when it is not. The Constitution is the framework of our government. It lists the powers and the restraints for each of the branches of government.

There are no laws found in the Constitution. Many I keep hearing all the Khan and Constitution. You don't know what you're talking about. All the Constitution did was established the greatest republican republic found on the earth. It does not have restrictions on anyone. It does not have anything. And the only

reason it was agreed to was because of the Bill of Rights. And what the Bill of Rights does is protect our citizens of the United States only because, of course, the Constitution only extends to us our god given rights as American citizens. Millions of men and now women have died in the uniform to preserve these rights. And so I think people are confusing constitution versus criminal codes.

And I think people are also confusing the government versus the bureaucracy. Yeah, we got big problems in the bureaucracy, but luckily you won't find them anywhere in the Constitution. The bureaucracy, that is, they have no legitimacy. Article T is very clear. The executive brand, which is made up of one and one man only at a time, the President, the big guy. Okay, until you people, not necessarily you chuck is that anyone and tell all of us understand how this thing works. You sure can't fight

it. Other than that, I would say that good shows always checked. Good shows all week actually, especially through JFK Bucks such as myself. Everyonets to look at those shows and last week. Other than that, this week, this month's been an awful up, I mean financially. However, I will pledge that in January, I sure will buy one of the hundred and fifty dollars spots, and I hope that someone will equal my office. Well,

I appreciate that. I appreciate that, Jimmy, I really do, and I appreciate all that you have put your support in and quite frankly, you know you're still owed. I have to send you back out your hat still and I got something else in there for you that I got to send back out to you because I got your package back messed up. But I'm probably not going to make it to the post office till after the new year. And I'm hoping to clear up everybody's stuff that they're owed, because there's

a handful of people that are old stuff. But I appreciate you, that's for sure, and doesn't matter how we differ or what it is that we have to learn our way through here. I think that solutions are possible, and it would be nice. It would be nice to get back to being represented. It would be nice to get back to having things function properly. But you got to agree that the bureaucracy makes that difficult on all of us, right, it sure does. Ordered to defeed or even fight with your

accuracy. First, we gotta believe me, I get it. It is a challenge things, my god, When when the bureaucracy's muck twice as big as the military, there's a problem, absolutely true. VPTE. Anything you want to throw in there, well you gotta absolutely agree with the last thing he said. M h. So anyway, Jimmy James, thanks for calling in and as always a big contributions to the Friday Night Show. Harlan,

I guess didn't make it back. Maybe he is stuck in Walmart. You know, they're having troubles with those self checkouts and some places are actually going to take him out now because there's trouble there. So hopefully he got whatever it is he needed to get from Walmart and he's all right. But vance there you go. So is Diehard a Christmas movie? First of all? And then secondly, drop whatever it is you want here, uh and uh

dropping your final uh whatever for the week. Please, yeah, Harlan's texted me, or we'll go and saying to say that, tell you all, he would call it back in but I don't know if you know when that will be. But you know, I just wanted to say it because he asked me to. No problem, No problem. If he makes it before the end, I'll put him on. Go ahead, man. Sorry, Oh yeah, I know you will. I guess since it's supposedly during Christmas

time, I's I'm correct, you know. Then you know, I guess you could call it a Christmas movie, but you know it's not like you know, you know, it's not like a typical Christmas I guess maybe you call it an actual Christmas movie or something. You know, it ain't like Rudolph call it the Town. No, it ain't Rudolph. And you know, I can't even it's not part of the weird subversive genre, which I was going to ask you about, because you know, there are Christmas horror

movies. Uh you know, what is it Black Christmas? And uh uh what is it silent like Deadly Night right? The horror movies that are based on like Killer Santa Clauses and stuff. Uh yeah, there's that. Yeah, I got I got a quick story of a guy that I knew he Uh. He was a went to a local community college here and he wrote a screenplay and he submitted it to a competition and which was called the Norman Lear Awards. Whoever won the competition got to write for one of Norman Lear's

shows, and he won it. Nice. Uh. This is the story that he wrote was a story about an old guy retired that kept getting too many Social Security checks and then somehow the system said that he had died and he couldn't get any of his social Security Funny, funny play anyway, he wins one of his dreams. He ended up writing for the Jeffers. There. He went on to become one of the guys that created Married with Children. Guy's name is Michael moy and he always told me the story that he

wanted to do a horror Christmas movie called Santa Claus spelled Claws. I don't know if he's ever put together that screenplay or not, but if I would love to see it. Anybody that could come up with the Married with Children would do an excellent job on a movie. Well, let me ask you this real bad and one of my favorite Married with one of my favorite Christmas episodes of television ever is It's a Bundyful life from Married with Children, starring

Sam Kinnison as the as the Angel comes back. It's a play on it's a wonderful life, obviously, and Sam Kinnison is like the angel who comes back to show Al Bundy what life would be like without him, right, And it's a great episode. Now you got this. Wait a second, are you still in contact with this guy? No, I haven't talked to Michael in probably thirty years, at least thirty years. Well that sucks because

two things. One, I think I've seen that story you're describing. I know for sure I've seen a television show that had a story arc just like that. And we need dogs are barking in the background. I don't know what their vote is on the Christmas movie thing, but I know I've seen that story played out somewhere. I don't know if it's his story I'm remembering, but that's hilarious. And yeah, Married with Children is something else.

And that name sounds familiar. I didn't know you knew a guy like that. Anyway, it would be great if you could give me too. He went out at the North Community College here in Kinston. No kidding, Well, Well, so technically, you know, so technically wouldn't you know Christmas movie is like usually about Christmas? You know, something that you know revolves around Christmas. So you have horror movies that are abound Christmas, but they're

still called horror movies, you know that, you know. Die, Yeah, what what genre would put it in? I think, well, it's both. See Vance is making the point, it's both, right, So and that's that was the question I was saving for last, but Advance kind of spoiled it now. But let's let's just throw it out there and let me ask you guys. Because the idea here is that if it has a Christmas theme, okay, it's Christmas movie, but also if it takes place

during Christmas. Right. That's why they say Home Alone is a Christmas movie, right, the one of the Home Alones, because he's doing it during the holiday season. That's when they're supposed to take the trip to France or whatever, and they leave Kevin behind, right, So that's also a Christmas movie according to this classification, But simultaneously it's a comedy, just like The Deadly Night is a horror movie and a Christmas movie, right, So it's

one of those things that fits in more than one category. But that's what the argument. I'd never seen about it if you use that criteria, though, look at it's a wonderful life. It's a wonderful life. Is nothing about Christmas until the last, the last day of the movie. It happens to be Christmas Eve when the bank examiners come and Uncle Billy lost the money. Up until then, it was the story of Bedford Falls and everything else. So you know, it's one of the greatest Christmas movies of all time.

But if you think about it, ninety nine percent of the movie ain't about Christmas. Man true enough, But that's why this is one of those weird arguments that I just can never imagine people actually having in real life. Anyway, because I've never seen it. I've heard about it for years and years. Is this a Christmas movie or not? And you know it's going to say it's definitely never come up in my bark. That was gonna be, Yeah, that was gonna be. My next question, Vance is have

you ever participated in one of these arguments? Right? I'm sure you've had the whole the other stuff we talked about, should Pete Roseby in the Hall of fame. Can Ali beat you know, Tyson or other way around?

Or you know how how fake was wrestling then as opposed to now, you know whatever, I hear this crap okay, mostly evolving involving sports and women in truth right, and even the whole If there's a bunch of guys around, well, you know, you might end up with a debate over what's better, you know, long legged women, short legged women, you know

what I mean, this kind of thing. And in the eighties and nineties, I distinctly remember hearing stuff like, you know, yeah, well what we should do is just marry Asian women because they're more compliant, you know, stuff like that. Whatever, those kind of discussions. Yeah good, let's get back to the constitution thing or whatever, because you know, there were some points that Jimmy, you know, was was making where he said

that the Constitution doesn't have any laws in it. But no, but there was you know, rules so to speak, or you know, I don't know the right terms to use now that we're studying words, but but you know, there were limits placed on you know what actions you know certain you know, organizations can are supposed to be involved in and all that, and so you know, however it is they've done it through articles and what however

they've amended it or whatever. You know, there's lots of stuff that's going on, but that doesn't fit along and with the design that you know was you know, originally and as a lot of us would like to interpret it, you know, to be designed to keep like the executive from being in total control, to keep him from being a dictator. And so you know, it's all good and fine if your guys and power and he comes in and says, you know, build a wall today, and nobody else wants

the wall or whatever. And I don't hate to use that as an example, but but you know what I'm saying, You know that that you know, that's all fine, but then the next guy can come in and do it. And I don't know how, you know, I can't explain exactly how that process got to where the president is now, you know, gotten these you know, like like we talked before, you know that we haven't had an actual constitutionally declared war in this country during you know, during my

lifetime. You know, I'm pretty sure you know, and so you know that that's the bureaucracy. I guess that he's talking about and so it's uh, you know, in my mind it all ties back into the corporatization of the nation, you know, and so you know that that appears to me to be what we are that you know, this whole design is, you know, uh, geared towards you know, supporting and propping and making these corporates. You know, they have the power, you know, the United

Nations all that. You know, I want to see Trump come out and say instead of we need to get out of the Paris Accord and stop fund and you know that or whatever, just say it. It's a criminal organization that doesn't represent the average person. It represents the corporate interests of you know, controlling the resources of the world for profit, which you know doesn't have

much to do with being free citizens in the country. And you know, there there's so much better ways to expend our you know, blood and wealth.

You know, then you know, continuing the system on the way that it goes, and where we have all this stuff, you know, we can't afford to build roads and bridges, and they want to you know, give people all this money and and you know then if you're against you know, supporting Ukraine, well that means you're anti Ukrainian and and you know, so they've got everybody in a stranglehold where all these they're charging us, you know, to pay for them to make profit on stuff that we don't need

to be doing in the first place. Just kind of in a rough nutshell, that's where I'm going with this and stuff there. Yeah, no fair enough. Look, what's supposed to be enshrined there, the way I understand it is what our natural rights right and the limitations mainly of the government. That's what's supposed to be enshrined there. That's what I understand. But is that what's happening? Obviously not. Is it happening the way it should?

Obviously not. But these debates will continue to go on and on. Eventually, though, we need to stop debating and start doing something that puts it in the right direction one way or another. And look, no objection to the idea of the Constitution being the way to go as far as I'm concerned, But will it actually be faithfully followed and executed? Oh wait a minute, that's part of certain people's oaths, isn't it anyway? B Pete, I guess I'll turn it over to you for the last thing, because after

all, all I had was this odd story. I saw Black Sabbath come up on jpe Satilli's rundown on news Vandal. I was gonna read from that, but kind of not even in the mood to do it anymore. I dropped the link in the Ocelli chat room, and I'm gonna try and get one other story link in there before you're done. But go ahead, man,

I turn it over to you in a free verse. I mean, hey, we didn't hear from you about whether it's a Christmas movie exactly and what you think about that, So how about you answer your own question. I would say, it doesn't really matter, and like I guess, I guess it is if it occurs during Christmas. Anything that does would be right, which is weird because there's probably a whole lot of movies that would be classified as Christmas movies that I'm not even thinking of right now. But go

ahead, Well, it's definitely a Christmas movie. It takes place during Christmas, you know, and he gets back with his wife at the end. You know, it was, Yes, it was a Christmas movie, you know, if nothing else. The directors didn't intend it to be they wanted an action movie. Well, if that's what you guys want to do, then don't make it during the holiday weekend and don't release it two weeks before Christmas. You know, if you think about that, you could have waited

until February. You could have made it a Valentine's movie. But no, you happen to do what you did, and now it's stuck. It's a Christmas movie. People are just going to have to accept it and move on. Other than that, you know, all I can say when it comes to the government and of bureaucracy is you're not going to change anything until you

clean house. I don't mind paying taxes, but until someone can sit down and automatically take these last continuing resolutions that we've passed because we don't know what a budget is anymore, and wipe out all the things that are not directly connected to the operation of our government and the building of our infrastructure and the

support of our military. Until they can cut out everything but that, and then we look at those costs and the waste involved, we can whittle it down to the point that, yeah, we can talk about adding things that you know, the people feel that we should do either as a society or to better our place of living. Other than that, I don't want to hear crap about from anybody that works from the government about their trying to do their job, because none of them do. Their job is to create more

government. The more government you create, the more money it takes. The more money it takes, the more power you have over people's lives. So until we cut the money out of it, we're not going to see one

damn bit of change. Doesn't matter who we put in office. Unless we completely clean house and get rid of some of these bureaucrafts that have been around for twenty years and automatically make them retire and go down the road, we're not going to see a change until they start looking at my income the same as Bill Gates and everybody else's income and treat it the same. I don't

want to hear shit about taxes. It's the biggest theft that's ever gone on on under the auspices of government power that we've known today, and I'll leave it at that. Look fair enough, and a final word about the bureaucracy, just really quickly from the Hill. I found this headline interesting where Congress approves the bill barring any president from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO. This is apparently a big deal. But they do these things back and forth all the time.

You see stuff. You know, they adopt a bill, they adopt a resolute NATO. I'm worried about the un Why are we still in the United Nations? Well, why are we still footing the bill for a bunch of freeloaders to come over here and tell us how we need to live. Screw all that, big lord. I don't mind us in NATO, but I got a big problem with us in the United Nations. Big larger debate

there. But from the Hill, this is the story. Congress has approved legislation that would prevent any president from withdrawing in the United States from NATO without approval from the Senate or an Act of Congress. The measure is spearheaded by Enitor Tim Kaine, Democrat from Virginia, and Marco Rubio, Republican from Florida. Was included in the Annual ready National Defense Authorization Act DAA, which passed out of the House on Thursday and is expected to be signed by President Biden.

The provision underscores Congress's commitment to the NATO Alliance that was a targeted former President Trump's hire during his term in office. The alliance has taken on revitalized importance under Biden, especially since Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine in February of twenty twenty two. Anybody realize that we're going to very quickly approach two years

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