The Ochelli Effect 11-10-2023 Open Mic

The o Chile Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com and listeners like you now and now in our media. Yeah now, we're live tenth day of November twenty twenty three. Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, this is the o'celly effect, and it is Forriar's day night. So on a fry day, that is we're live, and that means we're taking calls. And when I say we, I mean myself, my co host and somebody who I will be the co pilot to in a sort of

way, but not a capable copilot. He does say I might get a chance to drive though on the way to Dallas. B Pete is with me. I don't know how much of his life he wants to risk. Maybe he wants me to drive us on the way back home, see if we can make everybody nervous to wait word of our arrival. But anyway, we're

leaving for Dallas in only a matter of a few days. I've been extremely busy lately, so I did put out an old, old podcast along with a one recording that I could release, and I've been recording other stuff and I will get to that in the course of this show tonight, But what else are we going to get to your calls at three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's three one nine, five two seven,

five zero one six. That is the number to call. And I'm strongly debating bringing on one of the strangest characters I could possibly bring on before we go to Dallas. Uh, just in the course of doing the Ocelli effect for the rest of the week. I'm pretty sure Uncle and Aaron will be live no Sunday Sloper this week at all. Matter of fact, that show might go the way of the Dodo at this point because not very much interest

average downloads. I'm thinking maybe I need to retool and reimagine that thing. So we'll leave it alone for now and there could be another show or two adding on. But we're also planning on getting busy after I go live on Coast to Coast AM, which will happen on no November eighteenth, where I'll be the featured guest for two hours. Okay, ten pm to midnight e Pacific, excuse me ten pm to midnight Pacific on the eighteenth of November.

Smack in the middle of the seventeenth to nineteenth which is the JFK Lancer Conference, which is officially sold out for in person. They are at capacity, they're done, all the tickets are out. They can't allow anybody else in. So if you were planning on going and you didn't get in on it, you're not in on it. However, you can still attend virtually, and they have a what my understanding is possibly a record high for virtual attendance.

So a lot of people are going to be attending the Lancer Conference, and you can still attend virtually at different prices if you go to let's see a couple different spots. I will give that in the show notes. But also the easy to remember address I had in front of me a second. Go now I lost it there. It is Assassinationconference dot com. All one word Assassination Conference dot com. If you go there and you click to go

get tickets, you can sign up now and all that good stuff. They do have a student price virtual conference only, virtual conference and digital download, et cetera, et cetera. But the in person on all levels is now sold out. So that is that, and I'm going to offer people, by the way, if they're in the Dallas area, maybe we're gonna have to figure out another way to meet people if they're not going to attend the conference and they just want to drop by and say hi. And I'm saying

we again because Mike Swanson will be there, I'll be there. Some other people that have have been on the show recently and in the past will be there. Might be able to figure out a meet and greet somewhere. Maybe it's at the bar at the Lorenzo Hotel. We'll see, because that's where the conference is. Anyways, I'm not going to talk about the conference all night. I got a bunch of news, I got a bunch of ideas,

and I hopefully have a bunch of callers. If you guys join us, or you can tap me on the shoulder by sending me a message via Skype, ask me to and I will call you into the show at the beginning of the show. We already have Captain Trips on the line. He has joined us via Skype because he let me know ahead of time he wanted to join the show. We went live about I don't know, fifteen eighteen

minutes late. We'll go over a little bit, but I don't think we're going to have an extended show tonight unless things get crazy, and again that's up to you calling in three one nine five two seven five zero one six and you can also join us in the live chat room at ohelly dot com. So all that out of the way, first, my co host b Pete, How you doing tonight? Man? Oh? Do it good? Very very hectic. Trying to get some a bunch of stuff done at work

for go out of town. So it's next four days They're going to be busy as crap. Yeah, I'm looking very forward to it. Still, by the way, more than happy to accept any donations if anybody wants to contribute to my well being while on the road. It is still possible to

do so. Because I don't got a lot of cash. I pretty much laid out what I got to for a bunch of things in advance, but hmm, still don't really have all the food money now and a few other things along the way, not to mention, you know, I don't know, just making sure I've got something to drink, coffee and things because I do have to get up at like get up and be bushy eyed and what

is that bobtailed bushy eyed? Bushy eyed bushy tailed. Bob, what is the phrase where it's like you're ready to go in the morning, b Pete, what is that phrase again? Apparently you've never been that, so I surprised they should. Yeah, bright eyed at bushytail? Bright eyed and bushy tail. Well, first of all, bright eyed, I'm handicapped, second bushy tail, and no, I don't have much of an ass, so you know it is what it is. But bright eyed and bushy tail,

that's never been me. The only time I got up early really is when I used to work in a factory and I was going to school or well, let's see whenever. Yeah, I guess when I went to school, I got up early. Oh and at blind camp they used to get us up at like, I think six point thirty in the morning to go to breakfast, which was absolutely nuts to me. And in my adult life, when I have a choice, no, I don't get up. I am a night person. No, not a not a daylight dweller, not a

day walker. And my apologies from my voice to the little horse, because I've been recording stuff this week, including for a potential documentary in twenty twenty four, which I'm not allowed to talk about. Yet let's see how that goes. And no, it's not on the JFK assassination. That's probably about all I can say. But I'll be happy to either get a nice credit

or to get paid well or something, because that's a possibility. And we'll see how that goes with the documentary stuff that I've been recording remotely via video and also advised about a few things personally. I put in my advice and they've actually taken it, so god knows how that's going to turn out, but a fairly major documentary series. So we'll leave it at that for now. And again the conference coming up. Stuff's still coming up, and things

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out because I don't want to start taking up new commercials. I am going to add wise Wolf to us very soon, but that'll mark a change here because that'll be the first time because Tony Rderburn is not a regular listener to the show, okay, and that'll be the first time that I actually have to take on somebody who doesn't regularly listen to the show as a contributing sponsor. I'd rather if it was you, guys. I'd rather if it was Mike Swanson who listens. I'd rather, Yes, I would. The authors

whose books you hear on here do listen to the show. They're listeners, just like you listeners supported. I won't be able to say that anymore if I take on wise Wolf. But anyway, we'll see how that goes moving forward. Because time's change, everything's getting more expensive. You guys know that, And I mean I got no problem supporting go ahead and buy fit Go

gold and Silver. But then again, I'd rather if we could figure out another way so that people that actually listen to the show are the ones that support it. So this is where we're going, and we're also going to answer in less than a week. So all right, enough out of my mouth, because again we got Captain Trips already on the Skype, We've got callers on the line, and I'll give you that number one more time.

Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. Very consciously keep it nice and slow because I am from the northeastern part of the country, so therefore I do talk quickly. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That is the number to call, and you can join us here on the open mic Friday night. So with that, vpete. Before I get to Captain Trips or callers on the line, Uh, I know, I asked how you were doing, But what is on your mind this week?

Because I've got a bunch of things, and uh, my bunch of things mostly comes from the Associated Press, believe it or not. But before I get to my list, which I want to get through quickly and maybe open up discussions on various topics, because I found the AP to match what it was that I was looking to get into tonight as a variety pack, and they sent it mostly to me in an email along with JP Statillitis Friday data dump. I've got the whole world covered as far as I'm concerned.

But what is on your mind this week? I mean, did you catch the debates? Are you interested in talking about who won the World Series? What's what's up with you? What are you thinking about people need to discuss in the world at the moment. Well, currently I'm reading through an article that basically says US is running out of bees. Oh, we're having imports

much now because we've had three four straight years of drought. The farmers have cut their herds down to the lowest levels in the US market, so they're having to import be problem is there important beef from places that we didn't accept beef from a while back because it wasn't good beef. That's what we're getting now in our agriculture system. It's very critical right now with the supply chain

issues and all the crap from COVID and sanctions and dropped products. It's we're really I listened to the Farm Report every Monday, and because I mean, that's our number one industry in North Carolina is agriculture, so I stay on top of it. But it's just amazing how critical things are becoming in our

food chain. You know, we grow a lot of food, but between the government being involved in the markets and you know, weather issues with what this is like the fourth year of drought in a lot of places and was really bad in this stake. We need We got a little bit of rain today. We needed it terribly. We're several inches down for the year. But it's getting harder and harder to be surprised when you go to the grocery stores and you're seeing you know, Venezuelan beef in your in your meat case.

Yes, I'll be surprised. But you know, since Reagan was in office, and maybe it's you know, way before that, but since Reagan was in office, I certainly heard a lot about our agriculture and our farmers, et cetera. We saw farm aid get started because a lot of the you know, the family farms going broke. The controversy, if you will, the controversy about GMOs and Monsanto and who owns what I mean North Carolina.

When I first moved there, I was confronted right away with the this idea that hey, we got problems here because we grow a lot of soybeans, and some of the schools and other institutions that I went to go work

at when I was a glacier for commercial and industrial and institutional windows. I would go there and I would find almost everything, whether it was a grammar school or a prison adjacent to guess what a soybean field seemed like a lot of soybeans were in North Carolina, and that was, you know, the continuous complaint back then they were having problems, soybean farmers getting cheated, getting screwed, problematic stuff in North Carolina. That's what I heard. Back then,

I knew nothing, and still know very little about it. But soy is obviously a key staple product. We hear about corn all the time, and lately, not only are we hearing about Okay, we need to get beef from other places. And we've been dealing with that for quite a while since NAFTA a lot and even with the new you know, international agreements about importation and exports, we still have this issue about where's your food coming from.

It's interesting to me because the complaints continue, solutions don't seem to be there, and now even oh supply chain, supply chain seems to me, like, the only thing that really ever changes in that market is that there is consolidation where the entities get larger, prices go up, and at the end of the day, the chain has been a rickety precarious thing. I don't know since I've been alive. Am I crazy? No, it's we

go in cycles here. When you came to the state too, we were getting out of the tobacco markets the way they had been run by the government for so long, and you know the warehouses. Cigarette manufacturers were starting to contract with growers directly instead of going through the warehouse process. And when they got out of it, they had to buy out these allotments that people had on tobacco acreage. So there was a lot of money from the government.

Okay, we're getting out of it. We're not going to leave you hang. You've got all these allotments. We're giving you so much per acre for your allotments. And it was like a one time buyout when they closed out the program. The problem is you've got the government involved in so many markets, from sugar to milk. You know, your basic staples that end up being main ingredients in a lot of other processed stuff. It's hot, but

it's a combination of things, weather, manipulation of markets. You've got other markets that are undercutting the hell out of us. It's getting too expensive for farmers to be able to to stay competitive. It's a very fine line between covering your butt and having a successful year for having a disaster, and the

weather can can do that in a lot of cases. Well, and you got to say that other things change these markets too, that are outside of what people debate too, because like, for instance, being somebody who was a corn grower at this point is a whole different business than what it might have been twenty twenty five years ago, because corn is now in way more things. I mean, it was in a lot of stuff twenty five years ago, but now it's guaranteed in your gasoline, you know what I mean.

There's more products with corn syrup. I mean, hint, hint, Right, Well, there's there's been a couple of things over the past five years. You've had a worldwide push to cut back on corn syrups because of the health issues. Then you've got ethanol, which is being subsidized in a lot of states and by the federal government, and that's got the corn producers going yes, yes, yes, push for more ethanol. They want to

raise the amount of ethanol in gasoline so that they can produce more. And that's what's driven the cost of And when you drive the cost of corn up, you drive the car lost of a lot of manufactured products up just because

the raw materials cost more. Well, right, so than that. Yeah, so there was that, plus you know, the negative impact on stuff like tobacco, which, by the way, every old man in North Carolina that I got to talk to for more than ten minutes had me stories about how they personally had, you know, been out there picking tobacco as kids. Right, tobacco was a mainstay thing, and now because it's way less socially acceptable. I know, vaping is a lot more acceptable than tobacco usage.

But as cigarettes have kind of gone down, they're no longer you know, the thing to do on TV, in movies, et cetera, et cetera. You got to provide a cigarette warning. Now, even if you do a YouTube video, have you smoke a cigarette on YouTube? You got to warn people like it's sex or violence. Okay, I mean that in addition, in addition to less smoking going on, I mean there's still a lot of smoking in other countries. You also have the immergence of their markets.

I was able to buy cigarettes for a short time from Korea that were actually three dollars a pack, when the next cheapest thing would be about three sixty five or four dollars. And the reason that the distributor quit carrying them was because the US brands were complaining. So you've got these emerging tobacco markets in Turkey, Japan, Korea. They're starting to produce their own stuff.

So it's creating some competition at the bottom end of the food chain. You know, you buy a pack or a carton of Newports or Cools, now you're going to be spending eighty to ninety two hundred bucks in most places,

not even the expensive places, just local places around here. Well, and there's been the pressure to there's been the pressure to like eliminate you know, stuff like mental cigarettes and things like that too, right, because all of a sudden they spread that because they blame ah, well, it's the flavors

that attract the kids. Won't know, a lot of adults like flavors too, So you know, when you cut out menthol cigarettes, you're really you know, maybe that's what will bring people to the streets when they try to cut out menthol cigarettes. No, it won't, won't. It is a little racist. It is a little racist, though, I gotta be honest, because you know, one side of the of the customer base, because more people of color smoke mentholls. I mean, that's no big deal.

But I mean just the fact that you're going to say, well, and that's what happened, I think it's huge star. Yeah, but here's the they were I know, well, there was the Winston Cup, for god's sake. I mean, you know, Winston a cigarette brand, by the way, people don't know, but I mean, and every kind of cigarette

had, you know, NASCAR. Every kind of cigarette was on huge billboards on baseball games, which they finally figured out that you know, you're looking at Giant Marlborough signs one hundred and fifty times a day if you're looking at the right stadium, right, Okay, Stuff like that was going on even

though there was no TV advertising for tobacco. They were able to kind of, well, the Marlborough sign is on TV about you know, three, four or five hours a day, depending on how many baseball games you watch. It it's a thing. And the reason why I say it's racist is because literally, in the state of New Jersey, I worked in places where, you know, stores where we sold cigarettes, where a person could come in that store and simply say I want a pack of cigarettes, and based

on their ethnicity, you knew what to pull out of the rack. I mean, and I'm not being a racist. I'm telling you that that was the correct way to serve the customer. And you know, if it was an average white guy, you generally pulled out a pack of Marlborough. If it was average person of color, you generally pulled out new Ports. That

was just a pack of cigarettes. And by the way, Orthodox Jews, which I was in a couple of places where they were you know, heavy factor, heavy demographic Marlboro lights box just saying you knew by the ethnicity, and some of them would just say pack of cigarettes. And even if you didn't know the customer, you almost knew what it was and you were you were right ninety nine or nine hundred and ninety nine times out of a thousand.

Probably. Anyways, all of that having been said, I do want to get around to the callers, and I got a bunch of stories I'd like to try and run across as we go, but I think we should get to them next, and you and I could talk more in depth about farming and everything else as we go. Oh, by the way, there

was also another GOP debate. This one is the most entertaining of the three so far, by the way, in my estimation, and I have watched them all very carefully with an open mind, so love to hear if you guys have any thoughts on those. Rami Swami, Actually, I think said some good stuff this past time, and I think others revealed themselves to be exactly what they are. I'll leave that to your imagination as to what I

mean by that, but people definitely revealed what and who they are. And uh, well, Chris Christy, somebody ought to send his big ass back to Jersey. I'm just saying he is not serving anybody's purposes at this point, even being a Trump hit man, He's not doing good enough to hit Trump hard. But they did talk about him this time. Think he thinks

he's got a chance. I don't know. I well, no, you know what, you want me to be realistic about what I actually think about this, because I think there's a few of those people on that stage that no, damn well that they're not coming in second place, they're not getting the nomination. They are doing this to build their future and feather their nests, both at the same time with legitimate costs. Do you think Christy's doing it just so he can have his lunches paid for by his campaign? Uh?

I mean, is there why else was he doing it? Not just I think it's a heavy thing on the scale. Excuse me for saying that, I am not being What is that when you I know, it's like, you know, race is racist, and age is agist, and you're can be sexist. What is it when you're just like, you know, picking on fat people. I'm not picking on him just because he's fat, but he is fat. I'm just saying, is it just about the lunch because he's fat? No? But on the other hand, I bet it

is a factor. So you know, I mean, you know, he's paying for his meals and his daily trips and crap like that. It's the only that's his job is to run for an office. You know, they they've a way to turn it into an actual profession, and he keeps doing it. So I'm just wondering, and I now be the time bringing Captain Trips and see if he saw any of the great because I have ignored the debates. I don't want to hear it. It's all you know, you guys. At the end of all this, we're gonna come up with a

nominee. I'm just waiting to see who it is. Yeah, it's I really don't care. It's still true. I don't care because I'm not enthusiastic about it, and i'd really like to hear what Captain Trips thinks about this group of clowns. Yeah, we're gonna go to We're gonna go to Trips right away because I want to start getting to the callers for sure. But before, just before we do, I throw this last thing in pretty simple.

Look, Christy has a job. It's called being a lawyer, which means he can manufacture whatever kind of bs work he wants and get paid. Well, not a problem. But he likes being a politician. He really enjoyed the fact that he was governor of New Jersey. He really thinks he actually accomplished stuff in Jersey, even though look it's a picked you know, hey, in my left hand a corrupt politician. In my right hand, a corrupt politician. They're both from Jersey. I'm going to shuffle them behind

my back, pick a hand and guess what doesn't matter. It's Jersey. It is the way it is. So he was yet another corrupt lawyer who ascended the ranks in Jersey, but he thought he could get to the White House. What can I say, nobody's I think an Italian and somebody who is from Jersey. Again, based on Woodrow Wilson experiences, again, I would say that by the time we get back around, you know, either one of those two will already have had an open transgender president, will already

have had a woman president. We will certainly have had at least a couple more black presidents before they put anybody with a vow at the end of their name in the office, or another person from Jersey. Now, the person from Jersey might get there first. And some people might say, well, that's kind of a contradiction. In terms, there's no difference. I mean, somebody from Jersey has to have some Italian in them. But no,

not true. There are non Italians in Jersey. They do exist. And the thing is, I think somebody from Jersey might get in there just before an Italian. But maybe my grandchildren will still be alive when an Italian finally takes office, if we still have a country by then, because yeah, that's just not gonna happen. You're gonna have a woman, You're gonna have a black woman, maybe even before you get to the Italian. They're going

to allow in that office. And I don't know why Trump was complaining about Catholics because you know, oh, supposedly Joe Biden's going after Catholics. Last I looked, Joe Biden is a Catholic. But it's weird when the Catholic issue comes up because Kennedy was a Catholic too, and a lot of people thought he was going to take orders from the Pope. But anyway, enough out of me, enough out of be Pete, Let's go to Captain Trips. What did you see? Did you happen to catch any of the debates?

You got any thoughts? Trips? Yeah, I watched. I watched most of it, and this the second one. Watched all of the first one. This one was by far the most entertaining. My Chris Christie, I think we're seeing I think he's a time trap because if you listen to him even more, even more so than you know Nicky Haley and Ron DeSantis, I felt instantly trans transported back to about two thousand and two, two thousand and three. I don't know what the man's doing. He he doesn't

have a he doesn't have a meatball's chance in hell of becoming president. That is how wait a minute, wait a minute, that is how I should phrase the non starter of an Italian president from now on, a meatball's chance in hell. Thank you, go ahead, you just gave me a brand new one. Right, I think, I think, I think, uh Governor Nipple Piercing has a better chance of becoming president Andrew Cuomo. I blank

that on. I wanted to call him Chris. The Chris is the brother from c n it right, I think has got a better chance of being your first, uh, your first Italian president? Yeah, Christ Yeah,

but nomore they met Captain first of all. Secondly, you know he was recently on Bill Maher with his with some co author, trying to make the case that you know, maybe they came after me a little too harsh, And all I could think of, by the way, was the same thing as you is this guy not only you know, does he have his brother meathead Fredo Clomo over there, his brother who got canned from CNN. But Hilary, all I can think I'm looking at this guy, is I wonder

if his nipple rings get snagged on that suit he's wearing. You know, I'm just saying it's a weird thing to have to deal with. And he was facing, you know, the whole contromassy about his sexual misconduct right again on Bill Maher and uh mixed bag there there's a Democrat. But he's done. He's over with and there's no way that guy he's done. Yes, Yeah, I'm still I've not really dug deep into into all the backstory.

The whole the whole Andrew Cuomo thing did seem kind of strange. I mean, it was a big ker fluffle, and I don't think there's been any charges filed against him by these people. That and not that I liked him, man, but what calm clear, he was run out of he was run out of that position for some particular reason. Oh yeah, quote, you're talking about Cuomo with the charges. Yeah, I'm talking about I'm talking

about Cuomo. Yeah, did they file charges. I did a follow up on that, all the stuff that the DA was supposed to go after, all these different law enforcement agencies could have gone after, et cetera, et cetera. Guess what zero charges. Well, they won't go after the mass death that he caused in the nursing homes of New York. So yeah, But I think the the star of the debate had to be had to be

mister Ramaswami. He's a mixed bag. I have. I've followed. I did not know who the man was prior to him running for president, but I've listened to him speak on multiple multiple occasions, and you know, he's one of these guys where I would love to be able to I'd love to think that he's legit, but the man has spoken out of all sixteen sides of his mouth. But that being said, I mean the comment about Dick

Cheney in three inch Heels was classical. You know, he he and he he does seem to be the only one there that is not you know, rip roaring ready to go to start dropping bombs. It sounds like he'll pay for them to an extent. DeSantis the only the only thing I will give DeSantis is that he was at least upfront about not want not committing US troops, although I don't know that I totally trust him. That was always my concern with DeSantis wasn't so much as domestic policy was, but his foreign policy.

I don't know why Kim Scott is even still there. And you know, quite frankly, I think I think the the props for a most disgusting warhawk was Nicki Haley by by far. You know, I always thought that Lindsay Graham. Maybe it's something with South Carolina, I don't know. I always thought it was Lindsay Graham that never met a never met a war, he didn't want other people to fight. But I think she may have him

on this. So that's my that's my that's my opinion. I missed the comment where Ramaswami he went said, made some comment about Nicky Haley's child, which if if that was in fact the case, you know, sorry, dude, you don't go after people's kids, even though Nicky Haley is absolutely disgusting. Sorry, well yeah, go ahead. So all he did he didn't, I mean, all he did was mentioned that Nicky Haley is talking about banning TikTok and yet her own daughter uses it and it's well known.

I mean, she's done TikTok. That's all he said, you know, the hit. He was bringing out the hypocrisy, but she overacted in my opinion. Yeah, and I I never heard the comment, so I wasn't you know, I was. I was kind of qualifying it is. If he really did go after her kid, that's not right. However, like I said, I never heard the comments. So if he said what you're saying, then yeah, their game. Yeah, I just he didn't really after the kid. He just brought up the fact that, you know,

her mom wanted to ban it. Man, her daughter was all. I think her her kids? What seventeen eighteen? Isn't she an adult? But I think she's an adult. She's eighteen years old. First, first, she's an adult child. Second, the guy mentioned it wasn't about going after the kid in my opinion at all, which yeah, I do find that to be really bad when they do that. But this wasn't about the kid.

It was about, Hey, look, you are criticizing this, and you are saying this, and meanwhile, what's going on with your family? Seems like they like to use it, So are you telling us it's no good for anybody, but it's okay for you? Where are you at? You know what I mean, We're supposed to try and tell everybody. Because this was about we need to ban TikTok, we need to get rid of

TikTok, this and that. That was the sentimentality being traded around. And they went after Ramaswami for hey, look, you know we need to band TikTok, but this guy's over there using it, and he said, yeah, you know, sorry, Yeah. You know what the whole argument is is they complained, well, China has access to all this data. And I'm sitting here thinking, is any out there think that the federal government doesn't have access to all of our data on every social platform, on every computer,

on every phone. I mean, what the hell? It's crazy China can have it. Well, you got it, and you're selling it to him out the back door. Yeah. That's why I always pause when people go, oh, these people are spying on the American public. I go, yeah, you know, it's like this foreign country is flying on from

how about exactly? No. I mean I love bringing up that story about how the FBI treated me when I was allegedly the victim in the homeland security situation right where it was like, hey, look, let's pull his wife aside and try and tell her, hey, he's a little dangerous. You know, you might want to let us know if anything ever goes down, you know, future missus. Oh you know, not good. That is my Department of Homeland Security. I'm being threatened. And meanwhile they're going,

you know, he's a little dangerous. He's committed a few thought crimes quietly in the past, you know that. Okay, yeah, no, no, no, you're going to worry about foreign countries spying on you. How about your own country spying on you? Exactly. Fusion centers, unauthorized people, non government entities which are involved in that chain of custody on that data.

Come on, grow up already. But you know you want to you everything about you, your digital footprint or fingerprint or whatever the hell you want to call it, is known and being sold hand over fist a thousand times a day across the world. And people don't understand it. They just don't

get it. They think their government is Look at what we've seen just in the manipulation of social media in the past four years over the COVID crap and over politics where you know, the government goes straight to Facebook or straight to Twitter prior to it being purchased and says, hey, don't put that up there. Well, we need to calm this down for a while. We'll

let you know when it's okay. I mean, this is crazy. People are people really don't realize how much of their life the government not only knows about but profits off of. Right, So anyway back to a trips, Let's let's get around because I see we've already got like three callers. I think I see Vance, I see Uh, let's see, let's get to it on the list. I see Vance, I see Jimmy James already both

waiting on the line. A third caller just dropped away. But I'd like to get over to them soon and see if they got any thoughts on this or anything else. But what else you got to say about this particular topic for now, and we'll get back around to you. No, I mean it was a it was entertaining. You know, I don't know what I think I do, although I am more and more coming more and more thinking that it is not going to be a rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

Even though Trump is still leading in all the polls, I have a feeling they are going to somehow successfully keep him off the ballot. I don't know, I mean, truthfully, you know, it certainly looks like that if the election was held today and it was Biden Trump, the Trump would walk away for it. If it was a straight up election. It certainly seems like Trump is going to walk away. Although I did see a really

interesting poll result. I didn't read the whole poll, but on some poll that Desantus was within three percent of Trump, which I found that hard to believe. But I saw it reported in multiple places. So if anyone has seen that and can attest to the veracity of it, I'd be interested to know. I mean, right right now, to be honest with you, I like Ramaswami the best. I don't trust him, but I don't trust

any of them, to be quite honest with you. You know, I think, I you know, let's just you know, pretend like this is all legit. I definitely don't think we need another seventy eight year old plus plus person. Yeah, and the big chair. I mean, I really think we need to get back to people that are, you know, not two steps out of adult dipers right or already in them right? Oh yeah, possibly or probably or most likely and you know, you see how I

gotta keep walking toward it. But Rami Swami's dangerous, he really is because of his lack of an ability to I mean, he understands some things rather sharply, rather well, and he definitely had some good retorts and the best lines in this debate by far. Also he challenged the media directly, which you notice the media is not reporting that as a highlight most of the time. That was quite enjoyable to watch. That was pretty good. Although again

this is another guy screaming, oh, Russia thing was a hoax? What about that dress? That? How about Hillary? How about Hillary? Okay? Where is Hillary right now? Not running as far as I know, not a factor as far as I know, what the hell are you doing? And also, stop with the Russia gate thing already. I mean, come on, it's it's just stupid, you know, it's it's not the black and white issue that they want to make it into. And it definitely

wasn't the ridiculousness that what's her name? I'm drawing a blank now on the clearly lesbian, the anchor over the mission. Yeah there we go, right, Okay, that one over there with the boy, the boy haircut. Okay, ridiculous woman over there that was screaming about it night after night. She was on another planet with it. But you know, come on, anyway, let's grow up over some stuff and give me a break with the

whole Trump thing. Already, Trump, I'm surprised. Do you think that there's any chance there'll be anything other than a Trump Biden rematch because one of them drops dead. I'm thinking they're going to force that down our throats. And Bobby Kenny was the only interesting barriot here. Yeah, ahead, that's true. I honestly, I don't think Biden is going to be the nominee. I really don't. I've been subtly seeing this shift away, you know, over probably the last six months, and I think it was it was

Patrick bet David. I don't listen to him all the time, but I happen to catch one of his podcasts over the summer, and you know, he made a lot of sense. I mean, you see Gavin Newsom, he's trying to get his name out. You know, he's going to China, he's doing all this stuff. I really think they I really think that old Joe is going to step down for medical reasons which are probably gonna be valid. They're gonna let Kamala be the first female president for six months,

she'll choose not to run, and they're gonna roll new submits. I really think, I really think that's what's gonna happen. All right, Well, I could be wrong if that's like, if that's the case. If that's the case, then I stand really strong behind the idea that I think Trump is the president in twenty twenty four because no, yeah, no way no. I think I think is going to have a hard time running just based

on the state of the state of the state of California. I mean, I think any any any generic Republican can pull out the record of the state of California while he was governor and while he was mayor of San Francisco and probably get him just on that alone. I think that would be the fly in the ointment. But I do I honestly, I think I think the Dems are scrambling right now. I think they know that Biden can't do it and is most likely not going to get elected. I don't think Harris.

I don't think Harris would would be electable. And you know, other than other than Newsome, you don't hear any You don't hear any any any any other dem being kind of pushed to the to the top of the heap right now. You're not hearing much about any other Democratic governor or you know,

any particular senator or someone that they may want to slide in. Well, hey, you know, my predictions are my predictions can be wrong because its quite frankly, I thought that I honestly thought that they were going to run Andrew Cuomo in twenty twenty, twenty twenty. But you know, I had the little that he had, the little grab ass problem. But it didn't matter one way or another. No Italian in the White House. It's not happening anyway. I knew where you were going back to this though, just

real fast, and we're going to go straight over to Jimmy. James has been waiting the longest on the line. I want to get to him right away and let him get a say on this, because I'm sure he's got something to add and if he's still awake, because he's been on hold a long time, but deal is, as far as I'm concerned, the only viable politician you have in California that people might vote for that they might not hate is probably Schwarzenegger. And as far as I know, he can't be

president. So unless the Simpsons prediction turns out to be correct, and the guy who stands in for Schwarzenegger in the Simpsons universe, you know, they changed the lot awe to let him run for president. Uh, he can't do it because he wasn't born here. He's Austrian or whatever, So that ain't happening. And that would be the only viable politician out of California. You know that isn't just pure celebrity, because he's actually got a political background

now he's been the governor. Uh, but it's true. You know, other pure celebrities out of California maybe, but no current California politician of any kind I think stands a chance on a national level. It's just you're not going to be able to sell us that bs with a straight face unless us it's hold, unless it's Honold maybe done Arnold, which they've been going to him for commentary lately. But with that came but you know I think he

hurt himself with that whole screw your freedom thing. I don't think that went over real well yet people in California, right, But even so, there's that. But all right, so troops, how about you mute up and we try and get to everybody else, because again, Jimmy James been on hold like forty five minutes, so let's try and get him on and uh, we also have a waiting in the wings at least I don't know who else is waiting there too, But I want to get to everybody as quickly

as I can here. So, Jimmy James, you've heard the back and forth and a whole bunch of stuff about the GOP third debate. Maybe you watched it, maybe you didn't, maybe you don't care. I haven't gotten to my AP stories yet, and maybe I won't get there. But you can talk about that or anything else that's on your mind. The floor is open, Jimmy James. I haven't watched any of the debates, including the newest one. Donald Trump is going to see the nominee and he's going to

be the president. I agree, and it is black and white. The Steele dossier's a little of shit, and he has nothing to do with thrusher moveing. Not sure. I had a listener request for a topic. So it's up to you if you guys want to kick it around or not. And that's foreign aid. Foreign aid, so mean like the money that we send to other countries. You want to discuss that, just like what are

you for and what are you against regarding that? WHA, Well, I haven't It was a request to me to you, oh to bring it up, So another listener came to you, right right, okay, gotcha? All right? Interesting you don't want to reveal the listener or or they're not a regular like participant over here there and I'm disclosed gentleman who is in Eastern Europe? Okay, fair enough? Anyway, there's an idea anything else you want to add to the conversation though before we, you know, continue on.

I don't feel like doing politics because we're still a year out. I just don't see much point. Fair enough, we'll see what we're staying in nine months. M Well, there's a way to look at it. So I'm gonna put you on hold just because your line is noisy, uh, but we'll definitely get back around to Jimmy James. So I'm with that. I'm gonna go over to Vance as soon as I can here and click down on him and anybody else who wants to join us. Three one nine five

two seven five zero one six Vance. You might just say, hey, screw it. I don't really care because one side is like the other. Uh, and that's all there is to it. So you don't have to discuss this topic either. You could bring up something else if you like. We have a suggestion being given to Jimmy James by another listener, so we got that on the table, and uh, you can throw something else up there. How you doing tonight, Vance, I'll be I'll make it one

way or another. You'll do well. That's good news. That's good news. We are existing, as you can hear. So what's on your mind? Brother? Just in a chime on this topic in Handah didn't watch the Republican debate, but I watched Trump's rally or whatever it was, and yeah,

that was a good time. And you know, I was kind of looking at my phone doing other stuff, but you know, I pretty much watched the whole part where he was talking and and you know, I don't know it's I'll be surprised if we even make it to the election, depending on what goes on with all this you know, Israel stuff. And you know that that'll be interesting, Like like Jimmy says, he knows what's going

to happen between now in the next nine months or whatever. But but I thought it was, you know, it was, you know, kind of entertaining listening to him, you know, go on about, you know, railing about how he's gonna you know, everything's gonna be great. The economy is going to be back. It's not gonna take long. It won't take long. Won't take long, won't take long. Ago we'll have this guy

will be the greatest. And he just go over and over and over with all these grandiose you claims, with no you know, mention of you know, any probe, you know, any way that he helps to accomplish any of these things, and you know, people just laugh it up. And you know, I hope he gets selected. Well if he gets if he gets selected advance, you know I watched that rally too. If he gets selected, according to what he says, right, everything gets better instantly,

just like that. Uh, you know, everything will be better price wise, the wars will end. Every war you see, every battle you see

on the earth basically will end with his leadership. Every problem with pricing you have, every bit of problem you have with inflation gone as soon as Donald Trump gets in there, poof with the wave of the Trump wand if you will, it's all over all the problems, all the damage that has been done by Joe Biden is repaired instantaneously if Donald Trump is selected in twenty twenty four. It's the only way that it can be. It's the only way

there will be in America. According to what I heard at that rally. Is that right or wrong? I mean, that's that's exactly what he said the whole time he was there with those little nanny nanny boo boos and I'm Reber, you're glue, ron Sant, demonious, and you know all this you fifth grade. Well, he did also say that Hillary Hillary's no longer crooked Hillary, She's now beautiful Hillary, right, because Joe Biden has now taken the word crooked. So now only Joe Biden can be called crooked.

The Biden family are the only ones that can be called crooked. Hillary Clinton is now beautiful Hillary if you don't believe me. That's what Trump said. By the way, he's not worried about her no more. And they booed at him for it. Well go Greg Gutfield says he was a potato shaped wine bag, So I trust his opinion a little more. I don't necessarily love Gutfeld, but you know, nailed it. What can I say?

He's got it anyway, Sorry, man's go go ahead. Continue My mom My mom's got into the habit of calling Biden, oh Biden, and she's she brought up the Twitter thing, you know, something about Twitter, and and uh, you know, point out that why would they let Chinese you know company you know do this? And I'm like, you know what, it's the same thing YouTube and everybody else is doing. There's there's you know, you know YouTube shorts. It's the same thing, you know, most

of the stuff on there. And she got into she brought up one of the challenges, you know, where some people got sick or whatever, you know, doing stupid stuff, and it's like, that's all it is, just a bunch of stupid stuff. And even people put you know, just a little short content of you know, something that might be relative or whatever.

You know, but but you know, the the fact is is that you know, the the all these companies are doing the same thing, and you know by virtue that they've normalized that the concept of you know, uh, unless you go in and read the whole you know, two pages of of uh, you know, the regulations and everything, you automatically agree and nobody reads that. And so you know, you're automatically, you know, giving them permission to use your data, you know, for profit. And

so you know that that is apparently becoming a problem. And and I don't even understand the concept of how they can make that much money just by knowing you know, what I you know, look at and putting that they put I understand it. But you know, so you know, that's easily solved. You just make it, you know, because you know, that's basically is your private information when you're just online, you know, looking at something, you know whatever, it's it's not from the ads that they put up

that you see based on your usage. It's the data that they sell out the back door, the demographics. And that's mhm. And that's what I'm saying. You know that the easiest way to you know, get rid of that is you just make it a law or you know, the rule that unless you click yes you can use my data, then no, they can't use your data, you know. So you know, I don't know how they automatically just assume control of you know, being able to do that and

et cetera. So maybe I'm wrong about it. Maybe that's you know, you know totally you know, find a dandy. But it seems like, you know, that's uh kind of a gray area. So you know, well, one reason that gray area is because the federal government also buys that data. It's their source. It's how they get around finding data. If they want to know about you, they can contact your social media they without a warrant, they can go through and contact and build a usage profile on

you and you wouldn't even know it. And that's the nice thing about it, And that's why they don't want to super regulate it is because it's it's how they get around doing the official thing. Well, it leaves them both, see, it leaves them both options because here's the yeah, but here's the deal. Right, Look, in order to track and trace somebody and this and that, you're supposed to go get a warrant Okay, but you know what, to go and purchase something just on the consumer market and go

ahead and buy somebody's data. Well, you don't need a warrant to do that, you see, So why not just you know, you get a little fun together and you can purchase it. Oh wait a minute, why not? I just said what it is they've already been doing now for a long time before anybody realized it. They just bought it where they couldn't acquire it through. And well, is it legal? Yeah? Is it you know proper? Is it constitutional? Well, you know, that's another issue.

Huh. But anyway, yeah, I get it. But that's so that's a whole other issue. I mean, but it's childish to me to imagine that only China is the spying on us. I mean, the most aggressive spy we have against us is actually our ally Israel. When it comes to you know, data mining and everything else. They've got tons of stuff on us. We find it all the time, and allies spy on allies.

It's please. But even if you eliminated every piece of foreign involvement in your data streams, those Americans and our American data, if you did all that, it wouldn't matter anyway, because the NSA is captured at all,

there's plenty of businesses here that are willing to profit off of it. And whether it's trying to figure out what snack food you want to buy, or which fast food commercial to feed to your YouTube channel, or it's to actually track and trace what you're doing, where you are, and who you're with. It can all be done at the not even the stroke of a pen anymore, it can all be done with the wave of a hand at a screen because you don't even need to touch keyboard. Okay, it isn't that.

It's only that you have the federal government in acting laws. Look at the last medical well, it was an affordable character one of the other acts where they have gotten in there to wear it. You go to the doctor, those records aren't even yours. They're there whoever you're going to see, and you can damn sure bet that that material is being financial Well what's the word it's being financially incentivized to. Well, it's I don't know. They're

selling your data and you don't even have a right to it. As a patience. You have to go through several hoops to get copies of your own records because of this hip law and everything else that's involved, can't prove who you are. Just to get your records when you visit the doctor, when you ask for a copy, well, those are our records. They're doing you a big favor. Hey, they're doing you a big favor if they even let you look at it. Right now. There's some special app by

the way, I was just told about this the other day. I'm a little behind the times. Apparently there's a special app out there now if you want to see the notes that the doctors put on your files. Now you can pay a service so you can actually see all the little notations in all of your medical records right which apparently wasn't available without this extra app that you can pay, Okay, just saying it's you know, there's different levels of

access, and of course it's being monetized in that direction as well. So not only can they sell it to the drug manufacturers to tell you, you know, hey, why don't you send this guy coopon par insulin because he's pretty diabetic, but they also can get you with hey, you want some of your own data. You want complete access to the data. That's all written all about you, well, you know, if you pay us for

a minor fee, we can get that for you. That good. Is this something that's just recently you know, come around, because you know, I was always under the impression that you know that your medical information is you know, private between you and your doctor, and like, if I want another doctor to have, you know, access to that, then I got to give them permission, to give him permission and all that. One. Yeah, I always thought that too. I always I can see I can

speak to this one. I was just gonna say, captain trips, Captain trip trip. Yeah, captain trips, hang on Captain trips. So can actually explain this to us because to my understanding, the medical record my one second. One second. To my understanding, it was always just like Vance laid it out right, where you have this ability to go get these things because they belong to you, and you always had to sign off on different

things. If I want my you know, new eye doctor to see the stuff from when I was a kid, this is eye doctor, this isn't even you know, some sort of sensitive information. If I want that, I used to have to sign things and make sure that they could have access to it, and then I would have to figure out a way to transport it to them. And it turns out I think they were just putting me to work doing the actual labor involved to transfer things around and facilitate this for

them, when in reality I had no ownership of it. I was just you know, doing work on their behalf. But but go ahead, Trips explain it to us. Okay, So yes, technically everything contained within the chart is the property of the healthcare facilities. I'm not sure which APF you're

talking about. I can say most most of the bigger institutions have gone over to a company called it Epic, and they have a feature called my Chart that you do that you that you now you can get real time access to all your medical records if you're signed up for this service, and there is no extra fee to it. But as far as getting physical copies of it, it's always been you Basically, they'll charge you for either the paper or the discs. They will give you the run around. That's there's no question

about it. They will give you the run around. Now as to what they can sell to to third parties, that I'm not quite clear on because that kind of falls into an area that I don't involve myself in. And yet you're still required in I'm pretty sure all states now you're still required to sign off on sharing of medical records. I know in all the facilities I work in, you know, if I need to get something from another hospital, or I need to get you know, some other type of record relating

to the patient, the parent does have to sign off. That does have to sign I sign a release of medical records. And then that's not to say that everything's followed, but you know, technically that is that is still technically the policies and the regulations surround them all again can't speak to what the healthcare facility is allowed to sell to third parties. You know, it's my understand that a facility can sell the data as long as the data is not

attached to a name or a social security number. So like they can sell the data of a fifty nine year old white female experiencing arterial sclerosis and blah blah blah, but without a name or social security number, they can. They can. And that's where a lot of these medical device companies and medical design companies they purchase this stuff to see, especially when it comes to new

products. If your research a product, you have to look at the data of the people that are, you know, dealing with that illness that your product is going to help. Whether it's a drug or a device or something used in surgery or so. This data is critical and when you can a mass enough of it, you can you see trends towards Well, it's my product going to be profitable. Well, let's see how much it would be used or what you know, what kind of price can we put on it?

Make a profit, a pretty profit and still stay in business and people will buy our product. It's amazing what they gleaned from this data. Well, it's very valuable. Well here's here's the missing here's the missing person. Yeah, here's legal. Yeah, here's the missing element about that? Right, And you think, okay, I must be protected because now I'm anonymous. No, because with a different database, not the one that comes from

the hospital. Even if you take away the names and whatever else, if you have a few facts about the individual, they can database that together with some other stuff that you volunteered somewhere else on your job applications or whatever else you stitch you back to your guy. Well, I saw a guy here recently. He was selling a service, and his service was we provide us with some basic stuff. I can search seven databases and come up with a

probability that I can tell you exactly who that person is. Yeah, but here's the thing. That guy's got a low level version of that. What I'm telling you is that they can within days figure out who had a baby, who had a surgery, everything else, and specifically target people based on stuff that they shouldn't know because they can recreate it anyway. They can fill in those blanks once again with other databases. If you have the right stuff

to stitch together. I'm just saying they do it automatically. This is why, all of a sudden, even if you didn't sign up for anything, you know, somebody has a brand new baby. You get diaper coupons. Okay, it's just one of those things that just magically happens. It's not

always because you volunteered for that, but they've stitched it together already. Between your diaper coupons and by the way, you can go to this pediatrician and oh, by the way, here's what we want you to do to go get this and that and the third thing for their shots and everything else. You'll get all sorts of stuff all of a sudden, just oh, this is real helpful, you know, yeah, instantaneously, because they've already recreated

and figured out who you are. And they do the same thing for children, for heart attacks, for you had you know, you just went to the foot doctor, you name it, You'll get shoe coupons. Whatever it

is, they recreate it, and they can with different databases. You mix them together, and all of a sudden, the stuff you put on job applications, the stuff you put on your public profiles, et cetera, et cetera, gets mixed back together in you know, based on geolocation, based on your different demographic information, and very specific stuff that you've volunteered to completely

separate organizations. You can reassemble this stuff very easily. And a guy who's offering that, yes, indeed, you can pick up people on background checks. There are very sophisticated background checks where all of a sudden, even though the identity of the person sho not be found, you can find it if you just re know, basically reconstruct the actual data the way it should be. And it's like there might as well not even be this restriction of the

data and all these other things. So it's very simple. It's just a matter of what technology do you have access to? And God only knows what these AI force multipliers have done to this equation well ahead and when we started talking about them, because clearly the industries would use them well ahead of us. This is why Amazon knows within five minutes what it is they should shove

at you on your ads. This is why all of a sudden, brand new commercials will be played because you said you were hungry, or you mentioned a cheeseburger, and you'll get McDonald's, Arbis and Frick and Wendy's or whatever it is that happens to be local to you, all of a sudden funneled straight to you, not just for the consumer products, but for everything else. It is all much much faster than I think most of us imagine, and unless you're a tech tech person, I don't think you necessarily know.

So anyway, we're still taking calls we got. We're gonna come back around to other people on the line, that's for sure, But right now I'm gonna take a break and the open line Friday night Ocelli effect will continue, and maybe I'll get to news maybe I won't. We'll see what happens. Stick around. The ocell effect will return and you can join us. Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six three one nine five two

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and a few people have. I haven't announced their names just yet, but we're gonna try and get around everybody in the remaining time, which is at least another forty forty five minutes, so we'll go with that, and who knows, maybe it'll go a little longer, not too much longer, because I'm already warned the hell out and didn't get to tell you much about much, but I will try and give you a final update before myself and Bpete hit the road for Dallas in a few days from now, so looking forward

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Who's else book? Am I gonna have, Oh, Aaron Franz's book.

I'll have a bunch of copies of that one, A bunch of these things offered as thank you gifts as well as I got a couple of hoodies, I got t shirts, I got hats, I got lighters, I got all kinds of stuff that I'm going to offers thank you gifts, even if you want something simple like a bumper sticker, I got you covered pens all that if you meet up with me in Dallas, and if not, you can contact me and let me know that you would like to participate or whatever.

Be a supporter. We have new supporter levels at the website. If you check it out, you can sign up there and do that. First time in eight and a half years, I think since I started the subscription stuff at oceli dot com, I've actually added stuff and raised the price finally, because it was six ninety nine has been since I started it in like twenty fifteen or twenty fourteen, right around then when I opened the website up. And yeah, I've raised the price a little, but added to the

goodies and benefits that come along with that. Anyway, still no merch for sale, by the way, All this stuff is being offered as thank yous for those that support the show. And I've got a couple of packages I have to mail out after Dallas, so I'm going to get those together and mail those out after Dallas, put those in people's hands, et cetera. Anyway, I'm excited looking forward to it, but enough again out of me,

because I want to get to the callers be beat any business. We got to take care of them before I get to Harlan, who I know is waiting. And also we have an unknown caller, and we have our callers the previous ones I mentioned waiting on the line. Anything we want to get to before we move forward. No, I think they've got I'm just checking. I think I've got a small bar or they advertise some area restaurants.

I'm not really sure what's on site, so well, they might be Yeah, like I was saying, there might be a close by coffee shop or maybe a which Witch location. I mean, I don't care. You know, a little bar nearby something where we could get together if people want to meet us. And I'm going to make that offer on Coast to coast. I mean, you don't have to hang with me there. I can just go there and sit by myself and you know. Hopefully nobody comes along to do damage to me, uh, but if they do, it'll be

a thing. And I also want everybody who's with us to videotape, by the way, everything that goes on, not necessarily because I'm worried about getting attacked, but i want to assemble a little short film again on this Dallas trip, which I think is going to be much more entertaining than the last one I put together, but still a lot of fun. And I've already got somebody volunteering to help me with it. So I'm gonna give you guys addresses to send. If you guys can each record video ppete, take out

your phone or I'll give you a phone. I'm going to bring a laptop, a tablet and two phones to record with. I would like stuff to get emailed to one particular person so we can assemble it all. I'm gonna ask Swanson too, and ace Lynn Miller, who's going to join us at the Lorenzo. If everybody you know records a little something something, we could put it all together, stitch it together into an interesting video, I think, so that would be great. And I'm also planning on meeting a couple

of people to do it. Sorry, what I'm taking my nikon camera so I can actually see you know, with it too. It's like a little small frock pot. They've got on site restaurants and bar, Hamilton's Restaurant and cocktail lounge, Taco Enzo and the Relativity Pool Bar. Relativity Pool Bar, that's what it says. Does that mean like one of those bars that you can like drink and swim at kind of thing? Or are we talking shooting pool by the pool? I mean they got a nice pool there and they

got a bar off the side. Oh okay, probably have to pay extra for that crap. Anyways, we'll we'll figure it out, and god knows what the price of drinks is. But maybe I can nurse a beer and you guys can come by and see me over there. I don't know, we'll figure it out. Anyways. You want to get to Harlan next or we got something else we got to do? No, Yeah, we can go to Hartland and I've already got a fifth of gray Goose and all fine. Jack Daniels ready to go. Haven't he been open? So we'll be

fine on alcohol for a while, at least the first night. Oh, cool. I was definitely thinking of picking up a bottle whiskey as well, just to have a toast with our friends at least RG. I think we should definitely do that. And I don't want to pay the bar prices for it. I mean, I don't even know. I haven't bought a drink at a bar and so long. I have no idea what they would charge me if I said, you know, give me a shot of jack and a beer. The last time I got a double shot of gray Goose in

a bar, I spent twelve bucks. I can buy the bottle for seventeen bucks. Eighteen bucks. Yeah, it's that bad. Nice. So if I wanted a shot a jack and a beer, a domestic bottle of beer, I better have like twenty five bucks ready, is what you're telling me. Huh yeah, probably at least twenty twenty five if you want to leave a tip, okay, twenty five with a tip. And I am the

kind of guy who is always happy to give somebody a tip. Anyway, imagination and play, Let's go to Harlan and see what he's got to say. Harlan, you could talk about the debates or something else, but the Laura is yours, sir. Well, I just got a little bit of the first of the show because I've been busy and I just heard kind of talking about County sponsorshift wise listen after that, I've kind of been in the dark. So that's the time you went home breaks and you guys already talked

about the debates. Well, we did discuss it a little bit. We were entertained, of course by this one. It was entertaining. We brought up romy Swami and his alleged swipe at Nikki Haley, which to me, I think was a fair thing to bring up, and he wasn't really going after the kids. Ppete kind of agreed with that because some people were like, Oh, you don't go after the kids, and I'm like, Eh, that's not really what he was doing there. And we talked about some

other things. It was interesting what was being said, but I think it's all pointless. Chris Christy I focused on for a little bit. He's the most pointless SOB on that stage, but all of them are because pretty much, and Jimmy James thinks, you know, no point in even getting into it for the next nine months because we're not there yet. I think not only does Trump have the nomination, but unless something drastically changes in the next

you know year, I figure he's our next president again. So that's ought to make Trump Nation happy. But Rommy Swamy scored some interesting points there. The Rommy Swamy sandwich got a little spicy there, Harlan. So, I don't know if you've got thoughts on it or you don't have to talk about that. You talk about anything you want. Well, yeah, I wouldn't care to talk about it. I almost might have post on Facebook, you know, Ashton that being about it, you know solidly Israeli presidential debate yet

the World War three rally. But I never did tom in or too. But yeah, I saw almost of it, and I really didn't take it. Is you know, Ram Swammy, you know, really attacking. You know, we're family. I mean, I don't think it was a smile child from what I know, it's an adult. It's an adult child, And it was more about her response to TikTok, not about the kid. So you know, to me, I thought it was fair game. Uh, And I agree with you on the rest of what you said there too.

By the way, it was like, how how do we bend over exactly to make sure that we're going to service Israel. Uh. That was a main part of the debate. Uh. And the other thing was let's see, Yeah, there was that, and how quick can we get to World War three? Is when I was thinking. Nobody was saying it, But it sounded to me like, well, which one of these guys, what speed at which you want to get to World War three? Is what I heard from their rhetoric on foreign policy? But then again that's me.

Uh, maybe you saw it differently, but it sounds like you didn't. You saw it like I did. Go ahead pretty much, you know, it sound sounded like to me, you know, Ramswami, you know, he's not funeling it to my house to go to World War three. I think the scientists, you know, obviously come out say that he would like to get out of Ukraine altogether. And I don't think he would be full when that's the mouth, you know, to jump in boots on the ground

in Israel, you know. But here again, you don't never know how the politics is gonna swing. But yeah, the what I took away from it pretty much that and y'a also, I've kind of got the you know, feeling here in the last week or so. If if you're not for just absolutely undying whatever it takes, kill them all, you know, kind of mentality when it comes, you know, the Isle of Palestinians, it's like your supporting terrorists. I mean, am I just is that my imagination?

What do you guys act? Well, hang, honestly, let me ask you an addendum to that and get something out of you on it. Because what I found interesting was not necessarily that part of it. I expected the you know, everybody, make sure you make your pledge we're gonna stand behind Israel. That's standard American politics the way I see it. Uh, But the fact that they were openly discussing, uh, should we strike Iran directly? Should we strike Iran? This was like, you know, a

question, like serious consideration. What are we going to do to Iran? Because we got to do something? Was pretty much being put to them, which I found funny because you know, this is MSNBC and NBC's people that are asking the questions. Except for what was it the Jewish Coalition of Republicans and one other guy was added to the mix. But I mean, other than that, it was Lester Holtz and Chris whatever I mean it was MSNBC's people pretty much pushing the issue of, well, you know, how do

you want to attack Iran one way or another? Do you want to do it, you know, politically, or do you want to do it straight on with boots on the ground. Do you want to hit them with drones? What do you want to do? It wasn't like a question of, you know, should this be a consideration? Is that it? But directly now, we need to hit Iran because they're the funders of you know,

the the terrorists, so we need to hit them. And isn't it you know, North Korea, Russia and them all together that need to be dealt with. But Iran, Iran, Iran is what I kept hearing. So what was your thoughts about that? Because that, to me would be a serious escalation if there was a direct military strikes being proposed. So go ahead, you know, I agree with you. I kind of saw the same

thing. It's just like you know, everybody, uh, you know, the same like Ramswam Ramswamy, what's so hard that everybody was screaming about TikTok? It kind of seemed like that, you know, everybody was trying to out do each other on the same issues. With the exception of the Ukraine situation, it seemed like everybody else, it's like, you know, they was going in that direction. They was really nothing in favor of the palace.

Oh, Harlan, you dropped there. I don't know if you can he Sorry, Harlan, you dropped completely there, So good and start again. You said, it seemed like nobody was in favor of what. It didn't seem like that anybody was in favor of, you know, talking about you know, all the innocent people being killed in Gaza. And it also didn't seem like anybody wanted to point out that not everybody that lived there in

Gosa was you know, with Hamas. You know they will say on these other mainstream you know channels that they're basically you know, held there at gunpoint. But you know, here again, if you really think about it, you know, like we've said here for the last month on and off, you know, was this has been going on on the show on Friday nights. You know, think about it yourself. What would you be able to do? How responsible would you be if China could attack us and bomb us

the same way? You see what I'm saying and I don't think that there's anything wrong with going after Hamanas. I just don't you know, having you know, basically ten thousand deaths for thirteen you know, confirmed you know, killed terrorists. I don't think that's a great ratio. And that's even been pretty much those file Park figures has been on ABC News and an interview that

met Yak done this week. Well, let me ask you a quick question about this, because that conversation got started the way I saw it, maybe I saw it wrong, but it got started with isn't it a weak thing? Like Biden is two weak because he's proposing this idea of even a temporary ceasefire to get humanitarian aid in or to get people out. And for the most part, it seemed like, don't you disagree with Biden about that, that there should be no ceasefire, no cessation for any reason whatsoever, because

we're gonna let terrorists off the hook? Was the proposal I heard from the questioners right, sounded to me like isn't that where you're going? And most of them, with the exception again of Rami Swami and you know, Tim Scott wanted to give us biblical references, right to tell us, how justified everybody was from Ronald Reagan in the City on the Hill comes from the Bible

to everything today. The Bible, the Bible. That's what Tim Scott was saying, right, But as far as the other ones went, it seemed like, Nope, it's weak. We don't tell them anything. All we tell them is that we're here for you and we're ready to support you, and that's it. And it is absolutely terrible to ask them to cease fire, even in this case. So it wasn't just about you know, how they should conduct themselves, but don't even cease fire, don't even consider it,

seemed to be the theme unless I missed something. And the weird thing was it seemed to be supported by and almost created so that these guys could answer this way by the MSNBC, people who you would think would normally not be on the side of don't give a ceasefire for even humanitarian purposes. Maybe again, I'm hearing it wrong. What did you think of that part? As I agree with you? And something other else I like to point out is you know, and I like to know what you know. Everybody else

on here, you know, thinks about this. It was like watching it was like watching a movie that there was some other part in the movie that put everything they was saying into context. That does that make any sense to

anyone? Because it was like they was saying one thing. But if you look around the internet, you've got all kinds of people saying basically, you know what we've said, and several other people have said you know, and you know next to the mainstream or tinner you know, the bigger you know, alternative shows to where this stuff just doesn't add enough, Like your analogy last week, if somebody goes in takes hostages at the bank and you've got

a few people there, what do you you know? Do you just kill? You know? The other safety just becaus you know what I'm saying, I got you. Well, look, I'm gonna put you on hold because I think you presented a very big thing here, and I would love to turn it over to be Pete, let him comment and also pass it back around to everybody and see what they have to say about what you said. What do you think, b Pete? You know that seemed to be the theme on the debates. I think if you watch and listen to it,

you might interpret it in a similar way. But you know, your opinion might vary on those sentiments. But that's what was being presented in my mind, and clearly in Harlan's mind, and I know in a few other people's minds that's the way it was going. And I went in there open minded. It seemed to me, like believe it or not, Rami Swami had the oversimplified answers for a lot of things, except when it came to this where he was a little bit less of a warhawk than the rest of the

people on the stage. And that was the only thing that I really took away from it, which was weird. But I still don't like the guy. Believe me, I don't want to see this. If people select that guy to be the Republican nominee, I give up on all of you to call yourselves Republicans. I really do, because there's no way this guy's ready

to do the job or fully understands and comprehends the world around him. He might no tech, he might be a great financier, and so on and so, but other than that, this guy has no idea how geopolitics work. In my mind, he's got a way oversimplified view of the world in order to step into that job. And that's saying something. I literally think that Donald Trump. That's going to sound scary to some people. Donald Trump has a more evolved view of the world than Ramy Swami when it comes to

international politics. Okay, that's scary in my mind. But you know, then again, people can disagree with and say I'm wrong or crazy or whatever. But Rami Swamy, Yeah, that Rammy Swami sandwich got spicy. He got in some good hits, I'll give him that, and he definitely got the ah. You know you didn't out of the crowd a few times deservedly so literally even challenging the the questioners, right, how about you answer this?

How about why is the media pushing all this crap? You know which, Again, I'm not on the side of thinking that Russia Gate was nothing, but that's me either way. He had some valid points where he was kind of throwing it, throwing some shade on the MSNBC people, although very stupid to say, hey, we should have our people up here, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson should be the panelist asking these questions here. And I went, ugh, did you just pick a murderer's row of

people that I really would not want running a presidential debate. I mean, unless we're going full on WWE you know, then okay cool. By the way, our unknown caller dropped away, would have went to them here, but instead I'm going to go to B Pete and B Pete, what would you like to add? And uh, I think we should get back around to everybody else's on the line about what it is they heard regarding you know, should should we strike Iran? Uh? You know, the war hawkishness

of the whole thing. If anybody's got any opinions on that, But up to you, my friend, go ahead. Well I yeah, I don't watch the bait because I see the clips later. Everybody. At this time it seemed to me that tavake was was trying too hard. He wanted to he wanted to get He wanted to get the best put down out there so that people would talk about it. Because really quick, really quick question, really quick question, be Pete, just real fast. I have a three

minute thing that I could play here if you like. That would give us a real of many of the highlights for three and a half minutes. If we wanted to, we could do that to give people a taste in case they didn't hear it, and to let you hear a couple of those you know things that went back and forth between all of these candidates. Not just avake if you want, if not, and don't worry about it. You don't have to do it on my account. I've already seen the clips.

All it takes is a day, and by the time I'm done on YouTube, I know what went on. But this, you know, we're trying to whittle this thing down. The Republicans. The Republicans really don't have a field right now. It's just a bunch of wanna bees out there trying to one up the other guy, or get the most airtime, or make the most ridiculous statement towards another. Save Gramaswami. Yeah, he's what a gazillionaire through his medical device business or whatever. He plays the game. He's a

businessman. He's worth a lot of money. You know, I think there ought to be a certain income cutoff where you have to believe be below a certain income to even qualify as president, because none of these rich people that are that are running it. Nicky Haley's rich, now you know, Rams or Swamy's rich. Christie's rich off his campaign pack so he can keep doing this another election. You know, he'll be here in four more years. By the way, just really quick. Romi Swami took a swing at at

Haley over the fact that she made money through the military industrial complex. I also find it curious though, that even though he made his money with medical devices. You notice how nobody asks him about healthcare at all, Like, not at all. Sorry, he's benefiting from it. He loves health care. He doesn't care what your system is. He's going to be making money off of it. Yeah, but he's doing his manufacture in China, if I if I'm not mistaken, probably, but nobody's even asked him on stage.

I just find it weird. I'm sorry, go ahead continue. But this is a group, you know, I don't. I don't consider myself a Republican. Someone may call me a Republican. No, I'm a conservative. I'm not a Republican. I haven't been a Republican in a long long time. But it it's hard to sit here and listen to these people knowing full well that the one person who should be at the debate isn't there, right, I mean, that's just it. They're they're comparing themselves to each

other. They're trying to indirectly take a jab at Trump, but yet not too big a jab because Trump's going to be looking for a running mate, right, so they have to you know, they have to temper what they say there. But it's all of it's all a joke. It's all a farce, you know, it's through all this. I want to see if there's going to be a debate, you want me to watch get Trump's butt on there, Well, people go after him and his policies and show where

they could bigger. I mean, if Trump is so thick that the America is going to be sir, you know, say, as soon as he's elected, well then let's let the other ones take a crack at him and see if they can break him. Right. Here's the funny part about that to me, though, is that you know, if they want to figure out exactly how well it turns out for I can, maybe I can get

a cabinet position with Trump, whether it's vice president or something else. They ought to ask Chris Christy about it, because there's a guy who I promise you thought he was supposed to get a cabinet position. Probably thought he was going to be one of the air you know, heir of parents to the Attorney General and went in there to be a special advisor. And guess what he got. Who gots Okay, I'm just saying. And see that's the thing. You know, we talk about Trump and Trump is going to you

know, teconomically, things are going to be better. Blah blah blah. Let these guys question Trump about the first budget that he signed and said, hey, you were talking about all this wasteful spending and all and trying to cut spending and you know, change the way that Washington works, and you signed the first budget and said, well, I really didn't want to, but I had to, you know, So let Trump defend what he did against these other folks. Otherwise, these debates are useless as far as I'm

concerned. I'm with you, but it is entertaining. Still. I think it's probably sad. No, okay, I think it presents a good deal of the endocrine system in the Republican Party, though, and it tells you exactly what various portions of the Republican Party are thinking with the absentee. The clear and present absenteeism of guess what, we're all for Trump, which is growing in the party no matter what you do, no matter what they say,

He's becoming more and more likely the guy that's going to run. He doesn't have to show up for debates, he doesn't have to show up for nothing else. He's the guy God. One question I want to hear at the next debate, and I want every one of them to answer it. The last two elections, the Republicans were supposed to clean house, they were supposed to take over this and take over that, and they didn't take over squad. This is two elections that the head of the RNC needs to answer

for such a poor showing of Republicans. And it's because of the Republicans that we're putting up thereminating for these positions. Yeah. What's also hilarious, though, is that Robmi Swami pretty much said that what you just said, Robby Swami said it. You sure you'd want me to play the highlight reel real fast before we get around everybody, because I want to get around everybody, but three minutes this highlight reel is if you want it, he should.

If Ramaswami said it, he should have given me credit. Yeah, well I don't like him, all right, one of you, one of you get deserves credit over the other, because one of you definitely had this to say a long time ago, and he certainly said it that night. But I'd like to play the highlight reel and then get through to Captain Trips and go through the callers in order. If you don't mind, what do you think? Sure, all right, let's do it for the benefit of the

listener, even if Bpete doesn't want to hear it. But mute your mic and Captain Trips remain muted because I'm going to play this on open mic and put it through my YouTube player. So I'm going to cut my own mic even and it's about three and a half minutes in lengths Okay, So here it goes, and hopefully they don't hit me with a commercial at the beginning, and if they do, I'll try and mute it and play the whole thing straight through. But this is a highlight reel, which is NBC was

the one who hosted it, and it's on NBC's YouTube channel. To highlight reel. I'll give you guys the link. I'll actually put it in the chatroom at Ochelli dot com. If you're in the live chat room and you'd like to see it for yourself later, it's there and you'll be able to roll it back. But this is what we're going to play right now. Three and a half minutes and here we go. Governor DeSantis, let me begin with you on this one. Speak to Republican voters who are supporting Donald

Trump. Why should you and not him be the Republican nominee to face Joe Biden a year from now. Now, if you look where we are now, it's a lot different than we were in twenty sixteen. And Donald Trump's a lot different guy than he was in twenty sixteen. He o's it to you to be on this stage and explain why he should get another chance, he said, Republicans, we're going to get tired of winning. What we saw last night. I'm sick of Republicans losing. You know, everybody wants

to talk about President Trump. Well, I can talk about President Trump. I can tell you that I think he was the right president at the right time. I don't think he's the right president now. We've become a party of losers. At the end of the day is a cancer the Republican establishment. Speak the truth. I mean, since Ronald McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the R and C in twenty seventeen, we have lost twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, no red wave that never came. We

got trounced last night in twenty twenty three. And I think that we have to have accountability in our party. As President of the United States, What would you be urging Israeli Prime mister Benjamin Netanyahu to do at this moment? Okay, I'm pausing it right here because that's the part I was thinking of for Rami Swami there and comparing it directly to what BP'T has to say. But I just to let you guys know, this is not the natural flow

of this. This is obviously highlight reels, and even during each person's presentation they have clipped up together. So you heard from DeSantis and Ramimi was at the end there. So go ahead, We're going to go into the Israeli question. Now, this is that part of the highlight reel, and we're I also got to drop in and play, you know, do a little commentary in between so that nobody hits me for copyright even on Apple, because this is commentary based on a piece of news, so therefore legal for fair

use. Continuing on hundred and status if I would be telling BB finish the job once and for all with East Butcher Hamas. The last thing we need to do is to tell Israel what to do. The only thing we should be doing is supporting them and eliminating Hamas. It is not that Israel needs America. America needs Israel. Israel has the right and the responsibility to defend

itself. I would tell him to smoke those terrorists on his southern border, and then I'll tell him, as president of the United States, I'll be smoking the terrorists on our southern border. And what is Biden doing? Not only is he not helping the Jewish students who are being persecuted, he is launching an initiative to combat so called Islamaphobia. No, it's the anti Semitism that's spiraling out of control. Ukraine is not a paragon of democracy. This

is a country that has banned eleven opposition parties. It has consolidated all media into one stick TV media arm that's not democratic. It has threatened not to hold elections this year unless the US forks over more money. That is not democratic. It is celebrated a Nazi ins ranks, the comedian in cargo pants, a man called Zelenski doing it in their own ranks. That is not democratic. Okay. I just wanted to point out the shocking nature of he's

straight up called Zelinsky a Nazi in cargo pants. There is my commentary for that part. Again, just keeping it legal, guys, you can't take it away from a fair use. I am making commentary based on a piece of copywritten material. So there you go. Continuing on, now we go to Nikki Haley, who is the next one, you know, answering this question regarding what it is in Ukraine. This is the Ukraine section of the highlight reel, and we only got about another minute plus left telling you putin

and president. She are salivating at the thought that someone like that could become president. They would love to dec I will tell you the person that she's saying they're salivating over is Romi Swami TikTok is not aways spyware. It is polluting the minds of American young people all throughout this country, and they're doing it intentionally. In the last debate she made in front of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time.

So you might want to take care of your family first, leave my do you're going with adult dog the next generation of Americans or using As much as I'm pro life, I don't judge anyone for being pro choice, and I don't want them to judge me for being pro life. So when we're looking at this, there's some stay that are going more on the pro life side. I welcome that there's some states that are going more on the pro choice side. I wish that wasn't the case, but the people decided we

need a fifteen week federal limit. Three out of four Americans agree with a fifteen week limit. But don't make the American people think that you're going to push something on them when we don't even have the boats in the Senate. It's important that we're honest about that. Okay. So Tim Scott there at the end with the abortion, they noticed he only got one piece of the highlight reel, and that is that there were more highlights. I'm surprised they

didn't put the you know, she's just Dick King. Actually, we have Dick Cheney in three inch heels, and we got two of them on the stage here tonight because DeSantis is allegedly wearing shoe lifts, and of course Nikki Haley's wearing heels. So there's one of Ramy Swami's mic drop moments. And he definitely did well when it came to the you know, the dozens on the stage right, a little bit of battle. He was also rather rude in talking over people a hell of a lot, even though this was probably

the most controlled of the three debates so far. So be beat with that. Anything you want to add now that you've actually heard some of the highlight reel, or shall we turn over and see if Captain Trips wants to comment any on this? Now? Just send it around the horn. Let anything that's changed my pig. You know, it's all a joke. Okay, Try and get a little closer to your mic though, because you were distorting just a bit there. But I think we got the point you were saying.

You want to send it around the horn and get everybody else, and it is a joke and that's that. So we'll get to you at the end, so to speak of this cycle around the horn. So let's start with captain trips. Captain trips if you're still with us, because you might have been called away for work. But if you're still with us, anything you want to add or do you want to talk about the you know, Iran first strike thing? Do you want to talk about the highlight reel?

Up to you? Brother? Go ahead, Well, I'm gonna make my comments and I am going to cut off to check on a few things before before trying to get some rest here tonight. But yeah, the the the whole Iran thing was actually blood chilling. I don't know what these people think, but let's let's call a spade a spade. No matter what you think, we go after Iran. The United States does not win a war against Iran, China, and Russia. It just doesn't. I'm sorry, it

just does not do it. So if any of these crackers think that this is a good idea, they're sorely mistaken. I actually did appreciate you playing that highlight reel because, like I said, I hadn't heard what Ramasfami said in regard to Nikki Haley's child, and I completely agree she he did not go after if he didn't go after her child, So I'm glad you played that well. She was funny. She was funny in her response, just real fast because she kept trying to get out. She kept trying to say,

leave my child's name out of your mouth. I was like, wow, So Nikki Hailey just became Will Smith right like. It was pretty funny. I thought that was funny, and they didn't include it in the highlight reel, but that was her response. She kept trying to get it in and didn't quite get there. She also said, to the response of the you know, hey, you got Dicteney in three inch heels, she said, oh, well, look I only wear heels because I can run into

them and also I wear weapons as ammunition or something like that. And I went, okay, that's lame, but it was funny to for her to like, you know, channel Will Smith there for a minute, leave my daughter's name out your mouth in case you forgot when he slapped Chris Rock at the was at the hospital. M oh boy. Anyway, So I go ahead finish the comments. No, no, you're fine, You're fine.

And I did want to go back to just comment on what Jimmy James said earlier, Jimmy, I actually completely agree with you that as long as Trump gets on the ballot, he's gonna win. Oh. I'm just not sure that they're not gonna figure out some crazy stunts to get them off that. That's that's my only point. I agree at this point the way things look these Yahoo's on stage right now, I think Ramaswami is running for a vice

presidential position. You know, obviously there's a ton of bad blood between DeSantis and Trump now, so that's not what that's not what the Santis is going for. I agree with Ramaswami. I think Nicky Haley's is trying to make money. And you know, Meatball and Meatball and Tim Scott, I don't know. I don't know what to say about Metall. Oh my god. This discount Tony Soprano over there, discount degree is I think that's better than

Meatball. I like this count Tony Soprano with a law degree. With a law degree, I can't Christy's the biggest joke I want to be happy with. And by the way, you know pointed out to me also, uh, this Santis actually Southern Italian too. But anyway, so there's an automatic believe it or not, believe it or not. There's one little quick tidbit, and I'm going to signe off. I may actually know his grandmother.

He his his father's family is actually from western Pennsylvania. My school nurse when I was in school was a Missus DeSantis, and I've been trying to figure out I haven't you know, I really haven't had the ambition or the time to dig into it to see. But I found that because I didn't know many DeSantis is in Pittsburgh, Santa's Pittsburgh's a big Italian populations, probably knows,

but that wasn't a terribly common name. And I heard that, and I heard him talking about his father's family being from western Pennsylvania, and I thought, oh shit, that would just be hysterical. But anyways, gentlemen, it's been great as always, Chuck you let's let's plan on catching let's plan on talking before you all depart for your Dallas trips, and you know we can we can set that up off air. But have a great weekend everyone. It was a pleasure and looking forward to the next time. Guys.

Absolutely, look, I'll let you go with that. Captain trips and I really appreciate you joining us, and yeah, let's try and touch base before I leave. Maybe I can get wait here we go. Oh, I had a clip there I was gonna play, and I don't know if I can get it in here. It's it's a good clip to my mind. I am your father's brothers, nephews, cousins, former roommate. What's that make uss? That's what I heard when you said my school nurse when

I was I'm sorry, that's just that's exactly what it is. Though it's true, So my apologies there, but I'm trying to have that was that was funny? What does that come from? I can't remember the movie. Oh that's from Spaceballs, by the way, Spaceballs, that's it. Okay, I knew, I knew it was a spoof movie. Yeah, he gets to the department. It's supposed to be dark. Helmet is Darth Vader basically telling Luke, I am your father. Well, he says, well,

I am your cousins. You know, I am your uncle's brother's cousins, roommate. Whatever. I mean, my last my last point, my last point before signing off. I think that's the absolutely excellent movie. To bring in because I think we're about to go flat ladies and gentlemans. And I'll leave it at that. And even though I don't curse on air very often, I'm surrounded by assholes. That is my favorite line from that movie where everybody, Yeah, I gotta watch that movie again. It's definitely a

classic. So all right, good night, Captain Tripps. Appreciate you man, Thank you, and also thank you for your contributions not only on air but elsewhere. And you and I will talk before I leave for Dallas. I appreciate you man. Thanks definitely. All right, take care, gentlemen, have a good weekend, but take it easy. As a matter of fact, Captain Trips helped complete an interview I did with doctor Jennifer Rose the one night when I got kicked off of Zoom and he actually completed the interview.

So one of the videos on the Ocelli channel out there you can see and hear Captain Trips going through the whole thing about the vaccine with doctor Rose. Anyways, it was in part two of that interview, which I did a couple of weeks after part one. So anyways, and Captain Trips has been a contributor to the network for a couple of years, somebody who has shown up. He did the you know, the Magic Mushroom discussion with me

about PTSD and all that, and I really appreciate him for that. That was three parts six hours worth of show describing you know, my own self self administered treatment for PTSD using psilocybin. Anyways, all that aside, Bpeat, anything you want to add or shall we now go to the callers?

Now let's send it around the sender around the ring. Great, So that means the first guy up is Jimmy James hopefully hasn't fallen asleep, and maybe he has more to add, but I will say ultimately Jimmy Jay James had the quickest and best summation of this, which in my mind is, Look, it really doesn't matter at the moment. He doesn't think it's that entertaining, I guess, but I think it's entertaining. But other than that isn't

important. Because Trump is effectively the nominee, he remains that way. I disagree with Captain Tripps that they will even attempt to get him out of there. I think he's going to intentionally be the choice and I think he is already preordained to be president. I think Trump wins in twenty twenty four. So let's see if Jimmy has anything else he wants to add. I agree with you thus far, Jimmy James. Ultimately you and I have the closest

agreement tonight, I think. So go ahead. Yeah, first offs are lost. Of course we are, because this will be Here's my riddle. Well, it is more important than money, but less important than death. More important than money, but less important than death. You want to know what is it? Is? That? Right? Right? Let's pass that around. I'm just curious if anyone nails it. Cool. Okay, so

you're gonna leave us with that riddle. We'll pass it around, and Jimmy, anything you want to say in case we don't get back around to you. Other than that, everyone I hope supports the Ukraine and Israel, and I shirt certainly do. I support both their rights to exist and both their rights to self defense. And I also protect the Jimmy James's right to self defense. Yep, gotcha. Well, Jimmy, I'll tell you that once

again, you and I are pretty much in agreement. I disagree that the United States needs to keep supporting Israel's right to defend itself as much as it does. But they have a right to exist. Every living, breathing human being on the planet has a right to continue to do so. In my estimation, it's a natural right. But a lot of other people don't see it that way because of whatever insert problem. But I definitely support the right for a lot of people, places, and things to continue to exist.

I think we could do a lot better by building, creating, and preserving life as opposed to destroying it on the planet in general. But many, many, too many people disagree with me. So should I go to vance next? BPTE? Oh, absolutely, alrighting, Let's get Vance back on the line. So go ahead, vance. And also let's get to the riddle that Jimmy James gives to us. What is more important than money but less important than death? I hand that to you if you want to answer

it, and you can also say anything else you want. Vance, go ahead more than say it one more time, more important than money, but less important than death. Yes, more important than money, freedom. That was actually my answer, But maybe I'm wrong too. Maybe we'll check with Jimmy James. Just really quick and see if freedom is the answer he was looking for, because that would be the way I would go with it.

Anyway, go ahead, advance anything else you want to add. Let's see, I don't know what was all the Ukraine and Israel, and yeah, I support you know, everyone's right to exist, and you know I don't support you know, certain people's right to decide who gets to exist and is worthy to exist and not worthy to exist. So you know, I support peace and humanity, and you know there's a whole lot of unpeaceful, unhumane

things that are going on right now. And as to Iran, you know, this has been the plan all along, you know, is to take out Iran, Assyria and of a nun and you know, le la la la la. So you know Israel has their nine to eleven, you know,

Palestine has their Holocaust. Then we get to invade, you know, because anybody that that doesn't support Israel's right to exist in an explicit un either or you know, fashion is you know, so Palestine has we have allies, you know, our allows support us when we're in trouble, you know, but nobody else the earth is allowed to have allies because you know,

everybody else's allies are terrorists and they're supporting terrorists, you know. So it's just such a nonsensical, you know, equation that they've spelled out for everybody. And it's only you know, because of the lack of empathy and you know, anybody that supports all this stuff in that you know, black and white narrative. You know, I would just like to ask him, you know, how would you feel about it if you were born in Palestine.

So I'll stop there fair enough, really quick though, just as a final question to you, and then I'll let you answer and let you go. Uh. But I find it curious though that you know, the they Rami Swami continues with a very interesting narrative here where he said, you know, he calls Zelenski a Nazi and cargo pants. Uh. I find it curious only in that this is once again somebody saying that because to my understanding, he's Jewish. No, I don't know how Jewish is, but I always

find it weird when there are people calling people Nazis that are Jewish. What did you think of that part of it? Do you have any thoughts or now? It's just you know, I'm more of the same as you static. I mean it could be that way too. I guess. Let's see, I understand a difference to have a different interpretation of the word Nazi. You know, Nazi is a nationalist. That's anybody that thinks that their nationality

makes them a superior to someone else. So you can be a Jewish Nazi, you can be an American Nazi, you can be a you know, Polish Nazi. You know, it doesn't have anything to do with race, not Nazism. That comes from the word nationalist, and you know that's what it is. It's it's a nationalist fervor of you know, dominance that you know, we're selected, motherland, homeland, fouther Land, you know, on and on and yeah, I think you can be a Jewish Nazi.

I got you so blood and so oil. That's all there is to that. Okay, fair enough, all right, advance. Look, I appreciate you calling in, always appreciate your contributions. Banner Key himself. Who knows, maybe we'll get back around, maybe we won't. But if we don't hear from you again, you will hear from us after Dallas. You're still invited. If you get a chance to show up, you're still invited to stop buy and see us while we are in Dallas, as is you know

everybody who's friendly. Definitely, you're invited to stop, buy and see me. Anyway. I don't want to speak for b Pete, but I'm sure he wouldn't mind shaking hands with a couple of you. Maybe not all of you, but a couple of you. And you know, well, I know there's going to be three of us in the room at least at the UH at the hotel there. But anyway, so B Pete, I guess

that leaves us with UH. Just Harlan left because our unknown caller never returned and nobody else has joined us. So shall we go to Harland or do you want to throw something in? No, No, let's let's bring in Harlem. Okay, So with that, Harlan, this may be your last time around. Although I do want to put the riddle to you that Jimmy James put out. Vance and I both answered with the same answer, But what is more important than death but less important than money? Or maybe it's

the other way around. No, No, yeah, I think that's the way it is. I think I got the riddle right. Maybe you could provide a different answer, But I was thinking freedom is the correct answer. That's the one he's looking for. But anything else you want to throw in or you want to comment, as we've gone through, I think you provoked a good deal with this conversation. So you know good, I'm glad you did. Thank you for doing so. So anything you want to throw up

there, go ahead. It's all you. Is this still a first Amendment? Zilond wing site whatever? We won't pay? Yes, sir, well you used to say it, you know, woman a place I ask, but you know saying is nowadays? Is you know I'll figure that laugh. It's a lot cheaper to jack out. Yeah, that's true. But I agree with you as free that's true. Look, I agree with with you, guys. Freedom is the right answer. And I hear you. You know what, in past years, if you would ask me this twenty years

ago, I certainly would have agreed with you back then. But as I've matured, I got to tell you, I find that it's more costly that piece of ass than he used to be, and it's only gone up. I mean, inflation is one thing, but this outpaces inflation. Not only that, but we live in a different time where you know, you ask a woman out on a date more than once, you could indeed be assaulting

or so. I don't like that world at all anyway, So you know, but twenty years ago I might have said piece of ass would have been the thing that is more important than money but less important than death. But you know, all jokes aside freedom, I think it is the correct answer. So anything else you want to throw in, Harlan, Yeah, I've got two or three good points. I believe they're good poets. I might just be high my supply, but not saying that, you know, a

good woman is not worth her weight in gold. I actually do no one. But anyway, the the deal, you know, Jimmy James, probably he'll be sitting their phone when it's the mouth, you know, to hear me say this. About five or six weeks ago, you know, we had the discussion about, you know, how all these Republicans was, you know, not all about looking for their magical person of color to run,

you know, for some of these offices. And I'd made the comment get up in Kentucky that you know, Daniel Cameron was you know, looking like he was going to be the first black governor of Kentucky and I hadn't been following him close and stuff, and you know, been about a week or so after show. A man, a friend of mine, we was talking about it and he was laughing at me because I told him want to say on the show, and he said, he ain't got a change. And

I mean, this is a die hard you know, Trump fan. He doesn't like Trump, but you know he doesn't like you know, Joe Biden even that much worse. But anyway, after the election, I shared a bunch of stuff on Twitter, just showing what people saying. And you know, you guys mentioned earlier and it was in the clip about you know, Republicans losing and everything. Come to find out, Daniel Cameron when Trump got

behind him, he actually, you know, jumped like sixteen poems. Trump actually helped him, even though Trump's getting the blame for him because he had, you know, put the touch of death you know on several other candidates. It looks like the last couple, you know, election cycles like b P was talking about, but no, Daniel Cameron looks like if he'd shot his self up with no personality. And I also suck an ass and sipping for the last governor that turned it over, you know, to the Democrats

in Kentucky. But I just wanted for sure to put that out there. You know, that's one there in my opinion. You you can't pin out on Orange Jesus, you know. I mean, even the chosen one couldn't reach over and lay hands on his campaign and pull him and drag him across the finish line. And he couldn't do that with Matt Bevan, the former Kentucky governor. But I didn't want to get that point out. No,

sure, fair enough point. But Tim Scott is not the answer. And uh, you know, I'm just telling you a poor old team, poor pul Tim. You know I only hit on Tim or a liquor too. Also, I hope that he gets you my cabinet position. If Trump gets back up on the Temple Mount of the Federal Reserve, cranks that front and press back up. If we've got a local guy, I won't mention his name, bless his heart, Helly grun for everything in the country. And

he finally got a seed on one of the local commissions. You know, I hope Tim gets something somewhere because you know, he might not be done enough to satisfy the rest of us. But I'm sure you know, he's working hard, you know, and I know how that feeling is. You know, I may not be done the best, but you know I'm doing

my best, you know what I'm saying. But they was trying to throw on him over on the young Turks, and I'd never heard this that, you know, they thought he might be gay because he come out with a girlfriend all of sudden and nobody had ever ever seen anyone. But you know, I do think that, you know, Tim kind of tried to grab that, you know, the praise, the Lord vote, the evangelicals, you know, the you know, the straight out hypocrite vote, if you

will. And I'm not saying all them groups are the same people, but you know, they all kind of you know, fall, you know, follow, you know, in the same direction. But now I don't think Tim's really really moved up too much. But I will say this, folks, you know, I'm still on as of today, the first, you know, end of the first week in November starting into the second one,

I still think at this point that Trump cannot win the general election. And I'll say again that may change, but as of right now, I'm still holding of that. I see something better. But I do want to point this out to everybody. We've not got to the election yet, and this is the same system in two thousand and forward. It gave us John Kerry, and in two thousand and eight gave us John McCain, and in twenty twelve gave us Mitt Romney. So we don't know who the nominee is gonna

be. You know, I got a ninety percent saying that, Yes, Trump's absolutely got it. And we'll see when the vote starts, what's the primaries in a few months, see how much of this stuff has been propaganda, you know, polls or you know whatever. I mean. He may just scrape by, but I do think that he will get the nomination at this point. I think he's got a ninety percent change if something doesn't come out of the blue from some other direction to knock him out of it.

Okay, real quick, though, you say it's the same system that gave you X y Z. I get that, But it also never before had somebody not go to these primary debates at all and remain pulling above everyone else. That has never happened before as far as I can remember. Maybe it has and also he'd be the first president to leave office and attempt to run again after leaving office. Right with a break, He's not hundred. I wasn't done. But it's been over a hundred. Yeah, it's been over

in one hundred years, is what I was going to say. In one hundred something years when Grover Cleveland accomplished it by having two separate terms. But anybody else who ever had more than one term in office, they were always consecutive. But he's the first one ever to do this. Since then, I think there may have been somebody after Cleveland, by the way, who

tried it but did not succeed. Cleveland succeeded. He's the only one with Okay, he's the only one with two disconnected terms as far as I know in presidential history. But he's the only one to try it in over one hundred years, I think. Right, So, this is a different situation than the system as it stood in two thousand and four, two thousand and twelve, et cetera, isn't it. Yes, I won't put pulling out a couple of real quick things. Katie Roosevelt tried a third term and he

was given a states. I believe it was in Wisconsin, got shot in my chest, whooped the guy's ass, and he had something in his pocket that slowed the bullet down enough to worry it didn't kill him, and got back on the stage and finished giving his speech. Right, And you know, I do agree with you. You know the biggest reason why that I think that even the left has been like teasing Trump. Oh yeah, he's ahead, and he's this, and he's had a lot, you know,

the last several months, is that's who they want him. That's who they want Biden the run against. And Trump's the best of business. When this gets the rolling and a going and stuff, they're gonna make a lot more money off of Trump as him being you know, center stage versus him over here in the corner. Because if you've noticed, you know, Trump woof out like he's indictments and all that stuff, he rolls back downhill. You know what I'm saying, he's over here on guys radio shows that you know

a few of them to tell the truth about it. I couldn't imagine them being a whole lot bigger, you know than what you've been Chuck, And this is mystery, you know, used to be Tucker cross from Sean Hennydy you know, every night, and I know he's got back, you know, with Tucker and everything, but I do think that, you know, unless something other happens, he will be the nominee. And I'm sending some

of the polls and the battleground states. You know. The only thing I'm saying is at this point I have to say I will have to see it to believe it. Something other may pop off before then that changes all of that. But is now everything still looks like it's going in the same direction. And the reason why I say that, folks, is because, just like BT said, it was all this win and red waves blah blah blah,

and every election it's been downhill. Look at the net losses from twenty eighteen forwards and they probably a few twenty seventeen, you know, you could pick out. But you know, if we've seen one of these red waves, Virginia's done last. Because I'll say this now, I'll let you guys go. Just remember see like Virginia swept Glenn Yuckin in and Glenn Yukin didn't

deliver same West. Like Republicans ran on all this stuff for years through Obama and when they got there in twenty seventeen, what did they actually produce mostly besides some talk, And I think it is spreading the crastination fair enough. Well with that, Harlan, I thank you. I don't know if you'll be tuned into the Lancer conference virtually or whatever, but I hope that we

get to talk to you when we get back. I gotta say, I stand by the idea that Trump will get in there, and I do agree with you though, that he's better for business when it comes to the media business, for sure, because I think that's exactly the calculation. The miscalculation that people made time when he won is that, you know, they figured he'd be a great circus act, but he wouldn't legitimately win. But they couldn't sell us Hillary Clinton. There was no way, so he ended up

in there. Now this time, I honestly believe that there is more of a permanent support there that is not going to waver from this guy that is actually behind him. So I think, yeah, I think legitimately he can walk in there this time with you know, no chickanery involved. I think legitimately, you look at Biden, you look at your own circumstances, and what do you make the obvious assertion of right, this guy made things worse, it was better under Trump. I hear that all day long, anytime

anybody brings it up. People. A guy tried to chase me around a store the other day. I don't even know the guy trying to tell me this, trying to get on me about it about and I didn't even say anything to the guy except, you know, when he said, well, Trump's great, He's gonna come back in He's gonna do great stuff. I kind of went, look, I'm from Jersey. I got a different view on this guy, so I don't really see him as a good thing. But I agree with you, he's gonna win. And I tried to walk

away from the guy, and he followed me around the store. Okay, just trying to convince me that, you know, I'm wrong that everything would have been better. Everything is better if Trump gets in there. And once Trump gets back in there, it's all gonna be pretty much like his rally speech that Vance and I were talking about. As soon as he gets back in right away, snap of the fingers, it'll be like bewitched, a you know, except Trump can't wiggle his nose. Okay, like Samantha did

on there, right, wiggle the nose, everything changes. Pop Pop goes the weasel and pop goes the Trump. And that's the way it is in these guys' minds, and I think that there is a significant portion of the population that believes it. And I think this guy's our next president. He's the president in twenty twenty four period. That's the way I see it. Other people think they're gonna they're gonna, you know, interfere, they're gonna get him out of there. Uh, he's gonna go to prison something.

But you know what I think not, I think he's in I think he's exactly you know that the Batman line, right. Is he the leader that we deserve or is he the leader? Well, I'll leave that to your own judgment. But he's the guy I think is gonna waltz right on in there. And it's not too hard when you got to step over a corpse. Oh excuse me, Biden. And there's no way Kamala's getting in there. There's no way any other politician from California is getting in there again,

except if they change the rules and let the governator get run. But uh yeah, I think that's where we're at. So unless Oprah gets in the race, okay, or I mean I I don't believe RFK Junior will be able to able to step over Biden and Trump simultaneously. I think it'll be an interesting race in twenty twenty four. But by the time we get there, I'm gonna be so sick of this that I don't even want to ever hear Trump's name again. And I think I'm gonna have to put up with

four years of his presidency. That's how I see it starting in twenty twenty five, and God help us all. But anyway, b Pete, now that we've dispatched everybody, I've said what I've got to say, We've gone back around to the callers. I leave it to you, my friend, to close out this show before we hit the road for Dallas in just a few days. Well, I think the most interesting political thing that happened in the past week was when Hillary Clinton visited the View and they were discussing her

loss for the twenty seven million, thousandth time. God, you know, she's she That's her stick now is to you know, go somewhere and talk about how drastic it was losing? Did you want did you watch your appearance? Wait a second, did you watch your appearance? Because I couldn't stomach it? Did you actually watch it for the clips or anything? I'll watched? Yeah, I watched as much. Yeah, as much as there is out there without watching a program. Okay, go to work. So I

have one big question for you. Then, did any of those women have the uh, let's see, you can't say balls here because women don't have balls. But then again, we live in a new age. So did one of those women have the balls to say to her? Hey, you know, Hillary, is it possible that you were just so unlikable that there was no way that you could win? Did anybody have the cajones to bring this up? I'm sorry, good because everybody there loves her, you know,

with her. The funny thing was is we heard from Hillary for years. You know, we've heard, what is the seven years now, how she lost because it was rigged. But in this discussion she made the comments she says, well, I didn't like losing, and especially to him. But and she goes off on this talk about Hitler. She makes this point that well, you know, Hitler was duly elected, and I thought, wait a minute. Past seven years you've been saying the whole damn thing is

rigged, and it was the Russians that got Trump elected. Now you're saying he was duly elected. I thought no one had up on that. I mean, this lady just admitted that the past seven years of what she put this damn country through were stupid dossier and getting her friends at the FBI involved, and what it cost this country, not just what it cost us in money, what it cost us as having to listen to this crap for over four years. That turned out to be an utter hoax because she admitted that

Trump was duly elected. I think that's the most of the shattering thing politically. This happened all week. Oh well, okay, well I'm gonna have to go get that clip, because what the hell? I mean, somebody just I would celebrate whoever. I don't care if it's Fox News, I don't care who it is. I would absolutely get mad. Props to the person who looks her straight in the face on television and releases this to the

public. Hillary, what are the chances that you are just so unlikable as a human being that nobody could possibly convince people in this country to vote for you over anybody, including an old shoe, is the impossible. The person, the only person who's got the balls to do that is on a conservative show. When it comes to Hillary. If it's anybody who leans even the least little bit to the left, they're going to be polite. They're not

going to be so rude as to say something like that. And when if someone on a conservative side were able to get an interview with her and ask her that, you would hear nothing but backlash. Well, I'll tell you it would be unbearable, the amount of backlash that we'd have to listen to for the next two years about how somebody was so rude to talk to our former secretary of state, the most qualified person for president, who lost the least qualified. You know, if you think about it, Hillary lost to

Hitler. If you use her her rationale, okay, that's pretty damn bad. I offer be pete. I am not a conservative by anybody's definition. I believe I am not a conservative. So I'll tell you what I offer

my services as the interview guy. If somebody can arrange Hillary Clinton to come on my show for fifteen minutes I offer my services to create that audio or video clip right there to say, Hillary, what are the chances that you might have just been so undesirable as a candidate, as a leader, that there was no way that if they ran you up against Hitler or Old Shoe or Donald Trump or anybody a circus monkey about to retire, you lose because

you're just that repulsive as a candidate. How about that? Is that not possible? I will provide that public service if somebody will arrange that interview. Okay, there it is. I have made the offer, and I am not a conservative. Go ahead, be people. Good luck with that. Good luck with somebody that you know, does she gets wind of what else she's got to do is look at some of your your past stuff. There's no way she would subject herself to that type of She has to go in

un protect a protected environment. If you'll notice, she doesn't go on news programs with up and coming journalists that want to, you know, want to pay their dues and do an interview like that. She's Barbara Walter's material because of who she is. So you're not at that from somebody who she would

allow to interview her. That's but you know, I'm like you, I'd want to ask her straight up. You know, you you were promoted as the only person that was qualified for this job and you lost to someone that you described as Hitler. Just how bad were you? Yeah, I think that is a fair question. I think it should be asked. And you know what, You're absolutely correct though, because even former President Barack Obama would be more likely to come on my show than her. You're right, You're

right about that. But I'll tell you SE's of that elite status where she's only interviewable by certain people. You got to have a pedigree to interview Hillary. Oh, I got it. Of course she went on the view because she was on there right in interviews Whoopie and Joy and all these important nonsensical people that I'm surprised that show is still on the air. I'll be honest with you. You know, so am I uh, you know, Mark Maron, it probably would be, you know, some attack against women if

you fired those women is probably what the problem is. But I mean, I Mark Maren even got an interview with with Barack Obama, so I believe that's possible. I could probably get b Roack Obama on here sooner. Than I could. Hillary Clinton, anyway, with that, do you have any other final comments you want to make for this week, because that's an amazing point to make. But Hillary, yeah, you're right, But I still

offer my services. If by some miracles, somebody could pull that off tricker into coming on my show fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes of her time, that would be one of the questions. Yes, in five minutes she was in five minutes, she'd call it into the interview because I know what your first question, right, who do you think would last? Okay? The only thing, the only thing I can addswer the whole situation is, you know,

somebody ought to seriously start considering Tulsi Gabbert getting into the mix. Oh god, I think that would do interesting. So I just candidate. I'm sorry, I'll ride her in if I have to. If if trust me, based on what I've got to choose from up till now, I think she's the best choice. I'd sooner vote for Nikki Hailey anyway, at least I know where she's coming from. But all right, fair enough, it

is what it is. Like I said, this is the last time you're going to hear from us until Dallas and I'm hoping that we're going to record some video and send some stuff back and create a little mini documentary with the help from a good friend and make it happen so that you guys get to see the trip and the experience at Lancer, and I hope you guys do go over there and watch it virtually if you're not going to be able to meet us in person somehow, because that is the next thing on the agenda.

I'm going to try and get out at least one more live show before we go, but it won't be the call in show. I want to thank you guys for calling in, which means I thank Vance, I think Jimmy James, I think Captain Tripp's for joining us, and also the one and only Harlan because he definitely spurred on a bunch of conversation tonight that I think was good, was healthy, and at least we didn't get bogged down and yelling at each other and stuff. Because this isn't a debate program,

this isn't an argument program. I'd rather hear from everybody and get an idea, take a pulse, as opposed to arguing about who's right or who's wrong. Even I'd rather hear about things that you think are right or wrong. Yes, but I don't want to sit here and fight. So I'm kind of glad we didn't do that, and definitely glad that we didn't have a troublesome time with this one. It went over the two hours, and I hope you guys enjoyed it. I try to get a little loose and have

some fun. Hopefully he had that. We learned that Chris Christy doesn't have a meat ball's chance in hell, and he is definitely the discount Tony soprano with a law degree. I think we learned that tonight. We also learned that some people think that Trump will get kneecapped at the last minute because the establishment wants to play like he wants him in there but won't let him go

in. I say the establishment wants him in. I think he's the right man for the job that a lot of us freethinking people really don't want to have happen. But he's going to be the guy. I think it's going to be no matter what it is. You and I think because we get to vote, not elect, those that get to select, I think have

already selected him. And that's that. And it doesn't matter how many indictments, and it doesn't matter exactly what's wrong with his cognitive abilities or how strangely narcissistic all of his stuff is. Go listen to his rallies if you don't know what I'm talking about. But hey, I think that for those of you that that makes you happy. I think you're going to be real happy

with the Trumpster. I think you're going to be real happy with twenty twenty four because I'm figuring that's the guy that's who's getting in and that's all there is to it. But anyway, I guess we'll have to wait and see, and so will you as we go to Dallas this coming week. So for b Pete, for all the callers, for myself, I just want to let you all know that I am merely o'celly and you are indeed the

effect. Good night. One last little reminder is still there is time to contribute to my trip and my well being on that trip at oelly dot com. Go ahead and hit the donate button, chip something in if you like, let me know. And also you've got new ways to support the network, the show, et cetera. So investigate it all at ohelly dot com. Take care