The Ochelli Effect 10-30-2024 Hrvoje Morić

because I did that last week. But I think this will be an interesting visit with somebody that we have had on the show before and was working for TNT at one point in the not too distant past. But the now defunct TNT radio network, well maybe it's not defunct. Maybe it's been rebranded, because I see it rebranded out there,

and I don't even feel like giving them air. But weird thing when you see people transpose their network into something else, you know, it reminds me of the early two thousands when this happened several times, and places like Oracle and Jaez O'Ryan and other online radio networks change hands, ownerships split off into little groups. It was a weird time back then, and I don't know, are we seeing

that today? It's a lot easier. And hell, you don't need a radio network anymore because you can just what broadcast on Twitter ex if you want ex Twitter whatever it is Elon Musk's platform is I mean, is he too busy in Pennsylvania at the moment trying to give away a million dollars? Maybe, But we're going to get

to a bunch of stuff. And I might even ask my guest today what he thinks about the robocall and the other weird stuff going on with the presidential selection here in the US, because, as I said, being that it is hell Night, mischief Knight, the day before Halloween in America. Hey, you know what, we're only well less than a week now away from that Tuesday that's coming up. Huh, November fifth? Is that the date that's supposed I think that's when it's supposed to happen, November fifth, So that'll

be the next coming Tuesday. Strange, But will the story end there? I don't think so. Trump v Harris, Harris v. Trump, whatever it is you want to call it, and the battle for the soul of America continues, although if you're watching the ads you might think it's the battle over who gets to play in what sports abortion and say it to my face. Yes, I know that was in coherent. So is the campaign. So are some of the people

involved in the campaign. And oh, by the way, Joe Biden's got a garbage can and Trump has a garbage truck today if you didn't see that. But do I want to get into specific news. No, I want to have a chat with a guy who's got a better radio voice than me, but a name that I have a hard time pronouncing because it's what croatian I think in Oregon. But anyway, hergo yeah, all right, I think I did that correct? Anyway? Yeah? Hey, is that correct?

I guess people didn't really want free speech. That was the thrust of the statements he was making, because he was saying that his platform was all about free speech. And you know, they lost investors or they lost funding, one way or another, he said, and it was time to give up the ghost, and so they did on a Friday apparently. But you weren't there at the time, were you?

just today, you know, it's all news to me. I don't I'm not talking to anyone there, but they've been rebranded the Pulse today and I guess they did a stream today and yeah, I don't know, maybe they've gotten you investors.

you don't need to show up tomorrow. So it was what it was. I had a five day week show over there. Anyway. Well, let's put that aside and know I'm not bitter at all, but I did find it ironic because he was claiming you know, kind of kind of sour grapes considering that they you know, people just don't want free speech, which I found odd because I was shut down for not saying things that they wanted said and also not agreeing with the position, which is pretty much why my show was taken away. So I

found that funny. I mean, I don't ask you to comment on that. You seem to be thriving over there, but now you do just your own podcast and where can people find your independent whenever you feel like doing when you're posting it podcasts by the way, yeah, I.

out my thoughts. And I've been I've been doing the podcasts. I count from twenty twelve so basically for over a decade. Most of the time it was a hobby, moonlighting, you know, while I was working full time just for fun. But now I'm trying my hand at podcasting full time, so we'll see how it goes.

that's how I know you still exist. But you know, it was it was strange for me to see that you were still and I saw your name earlier this week and I said to myself, you know, I'd love to talk to this guy again because I really enjoyed

our conversation. And even though you and I might have slightly different opinions about what's happening, you know, you're very rational, sensible, and again you've got a great radio voice, so I love having discussions with again, rational sensible people who are willing to pick some things apart with me and also put up with my little rants here and there while I'm talking to them. So all those plus is in

your column there her Vollier. And it's weird because I read your name all the time, but mispronounce it in my own head. So I again, I did, honestly have to ask how to pronounce it right before we went to air. And he's been a guest on my show before. It's just did you want?

also decidedly like to discuss other things. Maybe you didn't get to all of them on TNT, but clearly when you got something named politics an empire or excuse me, you're you're the name of your substack again, Geopoulo and empire. Sorry, I had it in front of me, and then I had other things in front of me that I was because I was trying to scroll through something and be slick, but I messed it up. So yeah, geopolitics and empire.

Obviously you're concerned about global issues and things that affect people on the international stage, so geopolitics and maybe even deep politics in general would be interests of yours. So tell me what is kind of like in your crosshairs

at the moment. What is it that is catching your attention or are you just as swept up in the American selection process as it seems like most of our dominant corporate media is, and well, let's be honest, the allegedly independent media we have even all swept up in Harris v. Trump or Trump v. Harris and other weird things going on, which, by the way, I got a couple of audio clips I want to play for you and ask your opinion about But so outside of the

election or are you just focused on the selection? Again, I should use the proper term selection because nobody is elected, believe it or not. Stop the steal. They can't steal from you what you don't own anyway, her, What is actually on your mind in geopolitics and empire currently?

great it's a great platform. He agreed with me that pretty much all the other stuff that's going on, bricks, world War three, talk, the elections, all of that has to do with trying to bring about this world state. And with these elections, for example, I feel they want to bring in, you know, the elites want to bring in technocracy, scientific dictatorship. And it's almost as if they're trying to make America look as ridiculous, you know, as clown show as possible, to make us look.

look at Singapore. It's function well, it's a he actually said in the article something I'm paraphrasing, like benevolent dictatorship, or it's an authoritarian, technocratic sort of benevolent dictatorship. But the trains run on time, all the public water works, everything's functioning great.

have a government run by algacracy. Algocracy means rule government, rule by algorithm, basically, and so if they decrease the size of the government, they're going to replace said basically with this technocratic big attack. And that's sort of the just That's why I'm not paying much attention.

You know, they have their talking points, they have their points of attack, which are influenced by sentimentality, and that's all true. And indeed they will change some things depending on who wins. But overall, the implementation of something like what you're talking about is coming no matter who occupies the White House, no matter who takes the big payday in the Congress or the Senate. You know, we're looking at no matter what, we're going in a certain direction.

And I think the technocracy is one of those things that's universal. They may wish to implement it different ways, but at the end of the day, how do you feel about letting a computer run your life?

create a circumstance where indeed nobody needs to worry about food, shelter, etc. Because it would all be provided by a cooperative system that actually didn't require a bunch of labor, that didn't require a bunch of you know, the jobs and the trading of paper money and all that stuff. And I remember looking at those things and thinking, you know, this seems to be a clean and universally sort of benign

idea which could be quite benevolent. The concept of, you know, the star Trek concept almost of going forward and allowing people to really devote their energies towards self improvement as opposed to survival on a constant basis didn't seem like a bad idea. But it removes from the equation personal freedoms, the ability to make your own decisions. There's no need

to own property in that circumstance. So you know, some people immediately screamed communism, etc. There is even a movement of sorts which I think is still going on, the Meanness Project and a few other things. It still exists, but it doesn't have the i don't know, the popular attention online that it once did, where people are talking

about maybe building these things in an experimental way. Let's see what happens if you create a city that sustains itself, where people could live without having to earn anything, but were encouraged forwards self improvement and further innovation and stuff like that, and they devoted themselves mainly to self improvement.

You know, even with this idea that, look, you want to learn a musical instrument, you go to a main hub where either an instrument could be just you know, given to you for your use, or it could be printed by a three D printer. Right, you add more people, you can actually print more housing units with a giant three D printer, et cetera, et cetera. Wild ideas. But do you remember the Jacques Fresco concept?

like that. You actually see people out there with money, with power, with the ability to reach large amounts of audience on platforms of all sorts, uh, and not just the usual suspects. Stating that, you know, if we sort of turn things over to the AI, if we turn things over to what can be automated, if we turn things over to the technology, well eventually we'll get to the singularity. So you know, we'll just integrate ourselves into the machines and then you get into transhumanism and it'll

all be okay. We just have to keep moving in that direction and go to Mars and trust Elon Musk And you know, am I rambling and babbling a little too much here?

the EU is basically this fascist, sutalitarian dictatorship. If you asked me, and I can say that, I'm a US citizen, so I supposedly they say, I have the right to say that because freedom and democracy and liberty and all that, except when you vote the wrong way like in Georgia, right, they don't like that, so you didn't vote right. But in Mexico here, for example, people will won't. You know, Mexico won't be the first country to come to mind

when they think about tecnocressy and all this stuff. But just a month ago in mainstream like, I don't really you know, I don't go off of random bit shoot videos or forums. We're so far down this path that it's it's in the mainstream papers. So a Mexican mainstream paper a month ago said, look, Mexico City, which is like twenty five million plus people, they're going to divide it. It actually said that, it's they're going to make it at utopia. They literally said that, and they're going to

divide it into multiple fifteen minute cities. And now other mayors in different parts of Mexico are coming out on their twitters make videos saying Hey, we're going to make our little talent here in Mexico fifteen minute city. And so they're attempting now to begin the deployment of this stuff. And I guess it's going to be you know, I don't know how fast they'll be able to implement it, because it's always you know, push and pull to to two steps for two steps forward, one step back. So

we'll see how it goes. But it's it's in every country.

you know. And that was the other thing. A lot of things are based on pre existing systems that you thought you knew about. Maybe we're rumored might have been part of conspiracy theory at one point, but turn out to be real, you know, much like the back door access that the government has to every telecommunication and existence in the United States. And they've had that since the nineties, you know, long before the smartphone was introduced to the public,

et cetera. It's a very odd landscape, though, and it has continued to evolve and morph and change. And I dare say that no one who does not work in the technic industry directly has a real, complete grasp, a complete three hundred and sixty degree view of all the technocratic elements that are in play in our society at

this point. I mean, you know, just the idea that surveillance cameras and you know, and the ability to look at you know, biological you know, fingerprints basically, and to be able to utilize things to mark somebody, you don't need a fingerprint anymore. You know, you can literally get somebody's gate and get all of their biometric information and boom, you have an individual identified from as far away as you like, with no problem tracking. You don't need a chip, you.

is one of the ground Zero's uk Chrya. They're now forcing all citizens and foreigners in Kuwait to give up their biometrics and if they don't, they've already the deadline has passed. So tens of thousands of people now in Kuwait have had all of their bank accounts frozen completely, like they can't go to the bank to withdraw money, they can't take anything from the ATM.

that country, they cannot you deny you entry into your own country. But that's the face of the technocracy. It's it's doesn't care about logic or law. It's it's brute technological force. And you know this, this minister, he followed me back. He's got like hundreds of thousands of followers. Yeah, he saw me sharing his story. And you know, I

interviewed Edwin Black in twenty twenty. He's that historian who wrote on IBM and the Nazis, and he's he calls this system the algorithm ghetto, where you know, we're all going to be siloed off and into these they're going to be both literal and and you know, algorithm ghetto.

got charges against him too, He's just the most prominent name. Anyway, when that happened. This wasn't them seizing upon assets which were generated elsewhere. This was a return on an investment. Because it is really in the US where the eugenics programs and various ideas that people automatically link to the dogmatic reality of the Nazi eugenics programs. They believe that was all begun over there simply because it was the

fever dream about all Hitler. But the truth is all of those ideas and ideals were transposed from America before they were landed over there, before you know, when Hitler was still getting you know, poison gas in this space in World War One, we were doing this here. And I don't mean we asn't anybody that I know had anything to do with it. I mean the United States was already working on this stuff, was already creating these concepts and refining them, and they were sent to Germany

from here. So anything where we got assets back, intelligence people back, et cetera, et cetera. Because some people say, oh, then the Nazis infiltrated our government did this and that It's like, no, those people just came back after we had made an investment, an overseas investment was returned upon. That's what it is.

understand like they think things are coming. Like I love that that you point out that, look, you know, this has already happened. Other things have already happened too. Like every once in a while there's a big swell about we're going to a cashless society. We're already there. You see, the majority of what it is we trade as allegedly, you know, money is digital representations already. You know, the complaints about oh CBDC is coming and everything else. It's

already basically here. All they need to do is codify it a little more and you know, you'll complete the process. All they got to do is purge that last little bit. The cash that's circulating is insignificant compared to how much digital currency has been created, how much imaginary currency has been created and is literally propping up the quote economy

end quote. Okay, so this idea that we're going to be in a cashless society, show me where cash is king anymore outside of if you've got to make illegal transactions, and quite honestly, you can pay power cash app hookers and drugs now anyway. So you know, just saying money never has to touch your hands, I mean, I know, I bring up drugs and prostitution because those are the easiest things to point out where generally it used to

be thought you had to have cash for it. And oh, by the way, people said that that was what the purpose of bitcoin was. I don't know what to think of bitcoin. I got to be honest with you, because to me, it's like, you know, I see double edged swords everywhere, but I mean, how many edges does the sword have when it comes to bitcoin, It's insane what's gone on there. And I, you know, I'd love to kick myself a few times because I was offered those

things at eighty dollars a coin at one point. But you know, would I have held on to them all this time and be rich? I doubt it, you know, because I can barely hang onto a silver coin for more than a month. But but here we are, Okay. The technocracy is already everywhere, and it's just a matter of how soon will it be before anything that is analog is gone? And once it is all gone, here's

the problem I have with it. Really, I'm not afraid of technology, or I'm not afraid that we're making trades digitally, et cetera, et cetera, not at all. My problem is that easily, not just you know, hackers. Be afraid of the hackers. They could take everything away, you know, give us the Fight Club ending, you know, for all of our bank accounts one day, get rid of all the credit, wipe the slate clean. You've seen the movie Fight Club. I'm willing to bet so, you know, at the end

of the movie, not the book. The book's different, but at the end of the movie when they blow up all the you know, all the credit agencies and they wipe the credit cards away and all that. Well, you know, that can be done to everything, and selectively. It's just like the digital book burning, which is what I call it, which is taking place transfer everything away from the physical copies. So this way they're all subject to manipulation or deletion.

And then what can you do if everybody needs to access, you know, this great book through their Kindle, Well you remove it from Kindle's library and it's gone and that's that. Nobody has it anymore.

can do it with the flip of a switch. That's the real trouble here is that once these things are all so easily subject to control and easily eliminated or manipulated.

Game over, because you'll never even be able to tell what the original was any longer, unless by some miracle you retain a couple of those scary things called physical books, you know, which I often keep insist on and et cetera, etc. But truth is, no matter how many people like me that are out there, it doesn't matter because the ebooks are prominent. There are people that aren't even bothering to publish physical books any longer because nobody buys them, et cetera,

et cetera. So you know, what are your thoughts on these things that I just spewed out. Does any of it make sense? Or do you think I'm like just out of my mind and being too worried about the coming social credit system from China that people are going to one day say is a great idea again? Or you think we should look to Black Mirror and really get worried about those robodogs and everything else, because that's the real scary part, the upcoming robo army and the transhumanism.

I mean, what do you think is the key thing that's that's most terrifying or most troublesome, I should say, because I'm not going to go with fear in any direction. What is the most troublesome thing about this? And do you think everything that I just babbled about is madness or does it make sense to you?

And so if the biometrics are given to the government, the narco Mexican government, you can have bad guys now that have full access to all of your data and they can do what they want with it, full control. And as you mentioned earlier, again, I just spotify, I just got of notice from Spotify saying my content was dangerous one episode. And if anyone doesn't like what you're doing, they just press a button and you can't get on a plane, you can't drive a car, you can't buy food,

and it's you know, total sci fi. This hope youah right?

deserve it. Then what do you do? How do you fight the machine? You know you can't.

got nothing to hide, they can surveil me. Well, you know how many times will it happen where there's an error in the system, And hey, you had nothing to look at the old regimes of the twentieth century, you know, Soviet Union, whatever, there were plenty of.

up here. Even though that wasn't illegal two years ago when you did it, it is now we're charging you, we're taking away your privileges because of it, et cetera, et cetera. And those things can range anywhere from you know, the back and forth regarding cannabis here in this country, you know, to various other things where the laws might change, the rules might change, your punishment might come in and out kind of arbitrarily because you violated a rule and

you didn't even know you were violating. See, that's what kills me, those people with the whole you know, I've got nothing to hide that I mean, And that's not new. That's something I heard many, many years ago when I brought up government surveillance and the Patriot Act and stuff like that in regards to, you know, having us all be monitored. You know, before Snowden came out, and people said, well, what do you care if they monitor you? You're not

doing anything wrong. It's okay, No, it's really not. You know, I guess there are some people that think the only

people that want privacy have to be criminals. And you know, weirdly, I was going to get into this concept of where does organized crime end and where does the government begin in Mexico, because unfortunately, that is the primary image that a lot of Americans have of Mexico, that it is nothing but a comple deletely failed narco state that is doing what emptying its jails, insane asylums, and other bad people into wear are border crossing and just dumping the

most horrible of people in Mexico onto US in the

United States. Now, that's more of a sentiment than something that can be backed up by you know, statistics or reality even here, But nonetheless, that is the impression a lot of people have, and thusly they believe that a majority of the population in Mexico is either desperately engaged in dealing with those people or are guess what, the people that are insane, are dangerous, are connected to the cartels, and not much else outside of that, and some people

that want to take their jobs, you know, crossing the border in a constant, steady flow invading the United States. And you know, I'm not saying that it's not happening at all, but I am saying it's a lot more hyperbole than it is reality. But a lot of people would say that, and they would say it for a different reason that they don't know where organized crime ends

and the government begins in Mexico. I mean, if you just take a look at the amount of politicians that have been assassinated in Mexico in the past couple of years, I mean, it's kind of brutally obvious that organized crime clearly has a heavy, heavy handed influence all across the country. So, you know, what are we dealing with at our southern border?

To begin with? What is your thoughts on that, because that is a major issue in this presidential selection, which I am going to get to you on in a minute.

semi trucks from America. You know that they bring together all the goods fifty a day, fifty are hijacked. There's you know, they had to send in six hundred National Guard troops to lime growers to protect the lime growers because cartels were extorting them. They were demanding, you know, pay us whatever, ten twenty thirty, I don't know how

much percent, or we're going to kill you. And it's at some levels, it's just in some ways it becomes untenable because how do you have even a functioning economy if you're you know, you're paying tax to the government, and then the cartel.

for certain businesses. And then the border issue, and there's also many Mexicans that are coming back from America to Mexico, you know, so this whole idea of everyone's flaying to us, No, there's actually an increasing number of Mexicans who were born in the US returning to Mexico or Mexicans who were in the US coming back. But this migration issue, I find this more again a globalist project. It's the replacement migration, and it's I think more of it is beyond Mexico.

It's Latin Americans and the rest of the world. Because you're hearing stories about people, you know, tens of thousands of people from Turkey have come in through the southern border, Chinese, Russians, Africans, Swatha, I've met, you know, people from Al Salvador or in the US. One of my Uber drivers in the US last year was someone from Al Salvador who was illegally in the US and the person told me they used the coyotes. They're like, yeah, the coyote, I came into

the US. I'm driving Uber. If they go back to visit family, they'll illegally hop back and forth, you know. And so it's not just Mexicans. And I think the goal again is to bring down America. See.

The over state visas, the student visas, the people who come here on alleged vacations and just don't leave. There are tens of thousands of them constantly, and nobody discusses it. It's the weirdest thing. I mean, how many people are coming in through Canada? Ask anybody. Nobody knows, all right. And meanwhile, you know, is that border better controlled? If it is, why not adapted to the south. No, it

doesn't work, and it's very very strange. And it's still based on quite honestly, uh, the the the fear of the other. You know, it's still that in my mind, it's still based on you know, sorry to throw this term around, because again I'm not a liberal, so I don't like to throw this term around, but it is based on racism. It is based on a fear, and that's what it is. You know, the fear porn is the best selling product out there, you know, anyway, But it has gotten strange because that is one of.

instantly easily debunkable. You know, this is a picture from Springfield. Well, that's funny because all the license plates in that parking lot are from the foreign country. They're not US based part. You know, that's not the license plates you would see in Ohio. What are you doing? You know, it was the weirdest stuff I saw. And so again, the willingness to instantly embrace some of these things I think is based on it, and it is often a little quieter than it used to be when it comes right down

to it, you know, not every everybody knows. Don't you know, call racial names out and don't instantly identify your biggest problem being that I think somebody's darker, they're from somewhere else. Uh, don't say that instantly. But if you take a look at how they're reacting and what it is they're willing to believe without any sort of proof, you kind of get a hint where their mindset is, you know. So, but it is a mixed bag, and I think that

is something that needs to be recognized as well. You're right, so going on with the presidential thing, and I want to kind of close on this because I know you're not paying that much attention to it, but you do realize that all the things you're worried about are going to come into play one way or another depending on which regime steps forward. Here coming up real soon, and it's going to be different. But I don't see a

good outcome. If you're worried about the technocracy, if you're worried about the rise of totalitarian you know, thought processes. I think you've got two different brands of totalitarianism running against each other. That's the way I feel about it, and it's not a very popular view. But what I found interesting this week was the interesting packs that are out there running commercials. Now, you know about commercials, and you know what robo calls.

machines that do this, or the U STAB machines. Now, there's probably some sort of computer program that you know, you get a ton of phone numbers, you feed it in and a computer will make those calls all day, so you don't even have to hire a person, right, But what I found interesting is that these robo calls and of course campaign commercials and everything rise up and you know, they distribute things like Trump and his garbage trucks branded garbage truck today, stuff like that, and that's

all part of the game, I know that. But at the same time, there's also these really interesting people that get involved with robo calls, and there's always suspect crap that goes on regarding this. Right. So what we discovered, you know, just in recent days, is that there's a GOP based right which means it's you know, Trump's party.

There's a GOP based you know, group which claims to be some other under some other name, and I forget the name of it, but we're gonna find it out in just second, because I'm gonna play an audio clip that's out there, and of course they're bashing Kamala Harris and being in support of Trump and also telling you that since you know, Bobby Kennedy decided to you know, suspend his run for the White House, he's joined the Trump team. So if you're a Kennedy guy, you should

join the Trump team too, if you like Kennedy. Right, it's doing all that, But then they have another interesting thing out there, and I'm gonna play it and you'll be able to hear it too, regarding a third party candidate who I'm not sure if she's still running or not, but let's take a listen to it. And this is again it's the same pack that is pro Trump, anti Harris, that is running this as a robo call in battleground states right.

and fight for the greater good. If you care about Palestinian lives, vote Jill Stein for President on or before November fifth, paid for by Badger Values. Now author with any candidate.

of the state nation state of Israel. You know, Trump moved the embassy, the whole bit, right, You're supposed to be in support of them absolutely, And meanwhile, one of their pro packs is telling you, hey, look, you want to push back against Israel, don't vote for Harris. I see that part of it, But they want you to actually vote for Jill Stein your values.

If you agree that we need leadership will fight to protect our planet and end pollution in our lakes and rivers, please vote for Jill Stein on or before November fifth. Thank you for your time, paid for by Badger Values, not authorized by any candidate.

also Kamala Harris isn't on your side either. If you agree with all this stuff, then you don't agree with Kamala. Vote for Jill Stein. They're literally trying to split the vote, the liberal vote, which I think is hilarious. And I know there's lots of ways that they do this overtly in their campaign commercials, in their imaging, and their social media campaigns, et cetera. You know, that's why there's a guy hired there to seize upon any comment that's made

by whoever and to convolute things. You know, hey, look, these are the policies that you're gonna get with this one because XYZ and you end up with you know, Trump going to a McDonald's to make French fries. Did you see that one, by the way, Yeah, okay, I was just curious that we happened to catch that. Trump with the French fries was pretty damn funny. But you know, then you get Trump with the garbage truck, et cetera, and Biden drooling on himself, and hey, she forgot to

tell people he was drooling on himself. I know, I know, but you know, all these things happening, it's very, very weird to have a group come out and say, you know, you know all those things that you want to support because you believe in the liberal side, well, don't vote for a Kamala because she's not really liberal. They're literally giving free help to Jill Stein, which isn't going to

be much help. But I mean, even if they can peel off a couple thousand votes, that could be significant in a place like well, one of those answers from one of those robo calls was designed for Wisconsin. The other one I think might have been Pennsylvania. But either way, they're pushing positions that they're pack, which is generally in support of Trump and his platform as it appears to be.

They're opposed, you know. They're saying, if you're opposed to all these things that are actually in opposition to Trump, even though they support Trump, go vote for Jill Stein instead of Kamala Harris. I mean, I don't know if I've made that clear enough to everybody here. It's kind of funny and It's really weird to watch these contortions of philosophical and intellectual feats going on here while they're

pushing this selection process. I mean, do you have any thoughts about this kind of thing where we're getting so weird it's hard to know really who the hell is saying, what, what each super pac actually represents, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, do you find any of this strange at all or unique for this time period, because to me, it seems like we've entered a new era. This is not all just business as usual, although they've kept business

as usual. Well, we're going into a new era where literally, you know, calling people all kinds of weird names, including just calling them weird, literally calling other people garbage, using

foul language directly to approach people. Indeed, even Trump coming out and saying directly that these people are destroying America and making children, you know, available to be trafficked, and I mean really statements that only maybe a few years ago might have been seen as oh my god, this is absolutely earth shattering, bizarre, completely outside the bounds of normal decency and political discourse. How dare they even say these things? It has all now become a massive sow

ball of static. That's just making lots of noise and keeping people amped up, you know, if they're worried about boys participating in girls' sports, and if they're worried about this and that, and oh, by the way, Ted Cruz is being challenged pretty heartily apparently for his position as a senator in Texas by a guy who is really ringing out that fact that during a storm and everything frozen over and the power went out in his area, he went on vacation, something that should have been brought

up many years ago and should be brought up all the time regarding how much he represents and suffers along with his constituents up in air quotes for those of you playing at home. You know, really we have entered a new time here regarding this political discourse, I think.

But then again, maybe I'm just I've lost it. And the sad part is and the thing that I lament most is that even though I'm wishing and hoping that November fifth comes and goes and will be done with all of this, I think the handwringing, the complaints and the challenges to the selection, and these sore losers and sore winners are going to carry on this nonsense for many months afterwards, and we're going to get just more and more friction out of this. I don't know where

it all ends. Do you have any thoughts on this?

so let's do the blockchain model. And then even with that system, how can you tell.

whatever reason, they can put him in. Some people are saying, you know, maybe they would like Trump and because he can be the fault, that's when the economy's gonna collapse and then they can pin everything on you know, the Conservatives and Trump or you know, or they have six you know, was it Chuck the other the other Chuck Schumer was, uh, got they've got six ways from someday to deal with you the other Chuck.

got a unique opinion about this guy. I never liked him to begin with, and I always felt that he was a disaster and I think he proved himself to be a disaster last time he was in But if you ask a Trump supporter, you put that past the Trump supporter, they will get all over you about how you know, Yeah, the economy's worse, that's for sure, you know without him in office, but he wasn't the one making it good. One Two, this guy is not on

our side. I mean, look, I lived in the New York, New Jersey area, so I was familiar with this guy Shenanigan's long before he ran for president, and most of the country has gotten to know him. But they have really cherry picked and decided of which parts they really like and which parts they don't, and anything that he even rubs them the wrong way, literally goes against their own beliefs. They twist back around into something else and

make it so somehow it's acceptable. It's not really what he meant, it's you know, et cetera, et cetera, it's one hundred other things except the blatant nonsense that it actually is. So no matter what the excuse will be made, the twist will be done. And I think this guy's perfect, not because he's going to destroy the economy, but because they're going to be really really passionate supporters who are going to celebrate everything he does, no matter what the

real result is. And that's the way it's gonna go. It's gonna be applause and cheers. No matter how much things are destroyed, how many people are hurt, it'll all be blamed on somebody else. Anyway. Why is it that Trump is failing, Oh, that's because of the people resisting him. Still, you know, that's what it'll be, And that's where I think we're going. I honestly feel like he's still gonna be the projective winner. And you know, I don't know

what happens Kamala. I mean, we just look at her on the face of her, and we don't even go into hyperbole. What in the hell good is she?

you know. So I don't get it. I don't get what the reason to support her would be, no matter how you anyway you slice it. And honestly, he seems, you know, less and less sane as every day goes. Why But the people that support him, they hear something entirely different from what I hear, and they see something entirely different. So I don't know. I feel like he's still I still project him to be the winner. I will be surprised if he does not win. It'll be

by a close margin. And whoever loses is going to cry foul. So you know, how long is this going to drag out? After November fifth? I guess we have to stay tuned, But I don't know. I just don't see improvements or an ending or a cessation to the problem. I think they're going to amp up the problem, and we're going to be more and more at each other's throats as the years go by. Here, I think this

is the design. Let us destroy each other with vitriol, with you know, the cold Sibyl war, if you will, let us continue to do that until the day comes when it's time to actually collapse everything, which isn't as far off as some people think, but isn't right around the corner either. I think we got a whole lot more chaos to loose on the people, and a whole lot more confusion to sell along with the fear porn before it's really time to press the self destruct button.

But then again, once you have all the technocratic elements in place perfectly well, that can be done really easily. And somebody like Elon Musk, who makes all of his money from the government, really that's really what makes his money, right, his government subsidies and such. You know, I don't know where he's going to land, but he's already got his billions, So you know, what are you going to do? And

do you have any thoughts about that? The million dollar gain way elon Musk joining Trump, I mean, what are your thoughts about that? When it comes to the context of the technocracy, And then I'll just get a word from you and we'll conclude this one.

Reset cool. He's like they use the good cop, bad cop, you know, Cloud Schwab bad Cop, Elon Musk good cop, and it's effectively, there's memes that have been made about this, and effectively Elon Musk is selling the same thing.

et cetera. You know a guy who is buying and rebranding everything with an X. Think about it, SpaceX, twitters now X, and billions of dollars can fly all over the place. You can't even literally picture in your own mind a billion of almost anything. I mean, you might have seen a billion grains of sand at some point in your life, but other than that, you've never seen a billion of anything, especially not dollars. And most of us will never see anything like that in our lifetime.

But here's the saddest part of it all. All these people out there and per saviors, they always forget to look in the mirror and to themselves for their own direction and their own divinely inspired choices that they can make, because, after all, if by virtue of your creation you are endowed with freedom in general as one of those you know, factory installed elements to your creature design. It's kind of interesting that people still look for a savior to lead them. Anyway,

where can we find your substack and your podcast? Please one more time before we get out of here.

and thank you guys for listening. After all, I am mere le o'celly. All of you are indeed the effect.

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