You Chile Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com and listeners like you, Ye, Now and Nowgrado and in o Media Tach'll welcome to Friar's Day, the twenty seventh day of October twenty twenty three, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar. And despite the sound of my voice, this is the show, the o'cell Effect, and it is what it is, and we're live on a Friday. Of course, most of you will catch this later further on down the stream, et cetera, and get a podcast.
But that's all right. If you're listening live, though, you can join us by calling in three one nine, five two seven five zero one six three one nine, five two seven five zero one six. Anyway, you may note that my voice is a little strained, and it's okay. I've got two co hosts tonight, uh my primary constant and longest running co host I think now at this point is the man be Pete. We're going
to Dallas together. That's only a couple of weeks away, and although I'm not in a great talking mood, maybe we'll talk about that a little before we're done tonight. Looking forward to it, and who knows if I survived that long, given that I had to have a tooth out, and I feel like crap after that. But we've also got fan favorite regular Joe with us, and I have no idea what Joe will want to talk about,
say or anything else. I did advise him that one topic might be a little too narrow for this show and might be appropriate for a different show I produce. But other than that, you know, I'm not going to censor
anybody. I'm gonna let people say what they want to say. Reminding you about that, we already have a caller on the line looks to be like Harland is there, and I will let my co host, be Pete tell me when to bring Harlan in. And in fact, at some of those points when we don't know what to do, maybe we can turn to Joe tonight and ask him what we should do next. So this might be fun,
and I'm going to try and have fun with it. So that does mean we should probably go light on the air campaign happening over Gaza at the moment, or maybe it isn't. I think last Live report it's very very dark and not much is happening. But then again, do I believe the reports. No, all right, so it is what it is. It is Friar's Day and first VPTE. How you doing? Man? Doing good? Looking forward to tonight. It's been a nice respite from a very,
very hectic week. I gotta change jobs, spend it too much time on this one. A respite, A respite, right, Okay, I say things? Yeah, No, I like that you say respite. I like that you say respite. That actually sounds better to me. But I've always
said respite, So I don't know, you know what. And I'm from Jersey, so I can't rely on the way I pronounced things for the most But anyway, Yeah, tough week at work, huh Yeah, it's we're trying to get stuff wrapped up. They've got a deadline at the end of the year to have let's see, fifty eight sixty eight, about thirteen miles of four lane highway done and I don't think they're going to make it. But well, when you're talking a total of six hundred million dollars on a
project, sometimes they drag things out. Yeah, well, why not make a couple million dollars more? Nobody will notice in the It's just the way it thinks, well, there's it's all these it's it's what's called design build, where they designed the project basically as they're building it. So your design firm is trying to stay ahead of construction. But they've added in all of these other things. I mean they've added in two bridges, another two miles
of road that wasn't in the original project. And you know, when you're talking to ninety five sections that were built a long time ago, do you get in there and open things up to try to expand things or put in new and you're finding conflicts with stuff that was abandoned years ago. That's not on anybody's plans unless you go back to the sixties or seventies, and it can be a nightmare. So here it is what it is, fairy day of time. But we've been pushed back. This job was originally supposed to
end the end of this year. We've got two more years before we finished. There, you go fair enough, So in case I forgot to mention it, I do know we have Harlan on the line already. Anybody else could join us there as well. Three one nine five, two seven five zero one six. And after I say hello to Joe, I think you know. I'll leave it to you as to when we should bring Harlan in, But I'm thinking right after that. And now I'm going to try and shut up and not run the show so much. Joe, how are you
doing tonight, sir? Anything on your mind? Did you have a rough week at work or anywhere else? Well, you know, I'm raising two teenagers and my wife's on the road, so number one, I'm lonely. I don't even remember how long my wife has been gone at this point, and I did something very out of character a few days ago. You're not going to believe this, Chuck. I drove four hours from here to Mountain City, Tennessee to see my wife and turned around and came back and took
my mother in law with me on that trip. See, now, if this was me describing this, you'd want to know what drugs I was on to do something like that. I mean, first of all, you want to know how the hell I drove, because blind guy driving is not good. But secondly, you'd wonder why I wanted to go see any wife past tense anywhere, and whether I would drag a mother in law. Well, maybe I haven't talked about the mothers in law on this show too much good
reason. But you're a different guy than me a little bit, although we do often think the same. So all right, fine, that does sound weird though, that you did that, and that you even went that far from your home. You usually don't even like to leave your holler there, do you? No? I do not like to leave my yard. I was trying to be you know, I was trying to just throw into colloquialism. There. I think that's the right word. I don't know. My
face hurts, dude. What am I going to tell you anyway? Anything else unusual though this week? Something else you took notice of or is on your mind? Really? No, man, I've just kind of been wallowing in it because you know, I missed my wife. We've been together twenty two years. We've never been apart this far, this longs well being that I've never been around anybody for twenty two years. I got to say,
I don't know what to say. So there you have at PPTE, I turn it back over to you as to where we should begin, and on your I'm home calm there right off the that I've been married twice and I'll be honest with you. My mother in laws were great. I could tolerate them at the of it better than they could. Well, it's weird, but go figure. No, I'm just cruising the headlines right now. I've been so busy I've not been able to keep up with stuff other than the
glimpses you hear on the radio driving back and forth to work. But uh, we got some strange stuff going on. I mean, it's it's it's been a weird week. We got to at last I heard what they hadn't caught the guy up in Maine that decided to take his weapon and go to the bowling alley in his favorite bar and hang out spot and shoot up a bunch of people, mass shooting eighteen weeks and teen injured. And yeah, and they had a video out there circulating allegedly of the guy being arrested.
Turns out it wasn't him. And so yeah, another mass shooting and a man hunt all rolled into one and no, last report I looked at they had not caught him, right, you know, it's funny. And I've heard some reports about you know, everybody calling for restrictions on set me on
my madic weapons in that and apparently Maine has got lost in place. This guy was he was in a mental hospital for a while and threatened to shoot up his army reserve base, and somehow he's supposed to be banned from having weapons, so they figured he still has one, which kind of makes all these bands kind of ridiculous. You know, some stead old sailing saying you know your outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns. I think this
might be a perfect case of it. Maine doesn't have any read flag laws, but they do have some laws on the books that and there's federal laws that because of his institutionalization, he's not supposed to own them, So you
know, what do you do about that? Well, because the weird thing is, I've also seen statements come out, and I'm not sure if they're from the press conference earlier today or if they're just talking head speculation saying that he had legally obtained it anyway, which I don't understand because the way as I understand it is, you know, like in Georgia, they run your ID to make sure you don't like have warrants or some specific thing precluding you
from owning a weapon, like if you are a felon, right, Uh, And that's it, Like, that's the closest thing. They don't do a full on background check, but they do check to see if you've got something screaming at him like that, and that's It takes about ten minutes usually to run your name. Yeah, there's a there's a face A friend of
mine. The thought he was, you know, hey, So he stands at the poem shop with a couple of pistols and he pond them and two weeks later, when he got paid, he went to get him back. And the funny thing is before they could give them back his own weapons, what legally they could turn them, they had to and do check. And he asked, he says, what are you doing? He said, we're okay, it's mandated by federal law. We have to do this. And he's formed their mind. You just loaned me money on me back, They
said, that's beside. The point is the loss as if something comes up on this, we can't leave you your weapons back, right, And I know why that is responsible for the money, They said, of course, yes, yeah, yeah, no, I know I know why they did that. I have a logical explanation. But you're breaking up real bad, by the way, BPTE. I don't know if everybody else is hearing it that way, but sounded to me like VP broke up in a bunch of
spots. So let me fill in here. What you're saying is that a guy went and pawned a couple of pistols, and then when he went back to reacquire them after, you know, to go pay off the loan, they had to run a check on him again. And he's saying it's stupid. But here's the thing about that, And I know that this happened in New Jersey before, which is why they they they started asking for this change
many years ago, like decades ago. Is that. Look, if you get, like say, a domestic violence restraining order against you, one of the things automatically in New Jersey is that you have to surrender your firearms. Okay, that's one of those laws in Jersey law. So here's the deal. Let's just say, I know I've got a you know, a tso temporary a tro excuse me, temporary restraining order coming against me. I can
pawn my weapons. Technically I don't have a weapon to surrender. And then after they served me with this thing, I can go back and acquire them, you see, and if they don't at least search and make sure, then they could possibly be arming me again, despite the fact that I took them out of my possession and handed them over to a pawn shop. That was the reasoning for rerunning checks on things like that that I understood and kind of said, well, that sort of makes a little bit of sense,
because otherwise you got an easy way for somebody to get around that. You know. Again, you could argue as to whether domestic violence restraining orders is a reason to have somebody surrender their weapons or not, but that's the reasoning as I understand it. Meanwhile, we do have Harlan hanging on the phone, and I'm going to play the phone sound effect for anybody else who calls in afterwards. So you want to get over to Harlan or you got more
headline bouncing to do? No, yeah, we can't. Well, we'll just see how things go. But I'm gonna be bouncing as we go through the whole show. But I'm trying to look up now. We had a court case where a gentleman was hit for the domestic violence order and I think he was able to go to court because they told him it was part of that he had to to render his weapons. And he said, we'll go to court and find out. I think that case has not been heard yet.
I'll look at it while we're going. But yeah, we can go to Harland and bring him in and see what he'd like to discuss. Fair enough. Well, the only reason why I bring it up in New Jersey is because probably twenty years ago I had cops get a little rough with me when I insisted I had no weapons, and they were insisting that it was reported that I did, and in matter of fact, I did not,
and they had gotten rough with me over it. So I do know that that's like an automatic that comes along with if somebody goes and gets a restraining order against you in Jersey, not saying I know the laws everywhere. Yeah, and I found it. It is a this is a Texas case,
and this got abtolete the appeals court. Let's see here, says advocates for the mister Violet victims were stunned by the Fifth US Circuit Court of Appeals ruling, which continue to string a court decision side in the second amendument to erase gun restrictions. Apparently they said the alleged amiss alleged domestic abusers. That's the thing. It's alleged, nothing's been proven, but they decided that they have a constitutional right to keep their arms until they're convicted of something. Well,
there you go with a temporary restraining order. You're not convicted of anything, you are accused still, right, you know. So that's that's why my circumstance is exactly what I'm describing. But not in Texas. It was in
New Jersey. So let's get Harlan on and by the way, if you can see if you can come up with a stronger signal, because you're still breaking up a little bit uh here and there, and some of your words are getting clipped, just letting you know, sound wise, maybe you could move location or do something to improve that as we go, and uh, let's go to Harlan. There we go. Should be hard. Yeah, yeah, what about my due process? Let's everybody run over and jump the
court system. Scream due process three times loud as we can come. Yeah, that'll work. Not really, it always was, you know, that's all I'm hurt, you know, the last uh four or five years or by screaming process do procelys when it comes down with guns. But you know, I don't tell you how much money you want to spend, and changes are you you know you've had to lick a lot of districts anyway. It's standing out of the process. I like staying out of the course system.
Yeah, I mean it's served me well. And as far as the mass shooting goes, I've seen a little bit of stuff here in iron Man. A friend of mine talked about this morning. It's kind of been a hectic last couple of days and they ain't had much time to really look around. But it looks like you know that you know, they had already been laws on the bucks, regardless of red flag laws or not, you know,
to being able to do something with this guy. You know, when you've got somebody that's told I believe I heard somewhere that he told the Jenny to matter that he was going he was hearing voices and he was thinking about shooting up the local National Guard base. Uh. The pie said it was army reserved. But I've been sitting National Guard. I don't guess what miners I mean. And he's been the nut house for two weeks and something you know
can't be done, you know at that point. I mean, you know, but everybody else here it is take their stuff, make you know, make you a feeling just the default, you know, bullshit. I mean, you know, may personally. I mean, I'm sorry that this stuff happens, but I'm just as a point, I'm sick of hearing that. You know, I'm automatically just as guilty as this guy here is. I mean, the Second Amendment show I might be infriends, is what it said, and it's been in friends to this, you know. I mean,
it's just like this cat right here. You know what these mass shooters like yesterday've got on take that he should have his try on a week you know, started on Monday, and you know, fucking hang him on Friday or just shoot him to you know, blow his head completely. Well, I'm
let's try. That brings up a very good point. You know. Your Second Amendment, the right of keeping bear arms, says nothing about concealed cary, and some states had all way with their concealed cary laws, citing the fact that you have a right to keep in bare arms doesn't matter where you carry it, and you pocket or on your hip. Well this is the way, you know, if you really want to go down that road, hit says, shout not being fringished. It doesn't say anything about how you
and this guy was also allegedly a forearms in scructure. I wonder if he's quote NRA A certified. But it doesn't say anything about being certified to the NRA and a trainer. It doesn't say if you buy these gimmicks online from you know, the griffs. It doesn't say if you run around then you know, play professional paddy cake. It doesn't. It doesn't say any of that. It says not seen by that, you know. It says nothing about hiding in the closets, you know, to wipe a little oil on
them. It says, you know nothing, you can't go here and there, blah blah blah. It doesn't say that, you know, you've got to you know, kiss somebody's ass, you know, at any point it says, yeah, I'm not being French. Now. There's a lot of common sense stuff people should use. But anything outside of you know, common you know sense, good safety, everything else is pretty much is infrenchment,
you know. I mean, if you've got a record of mile on you know, to start with, you know, I can see some of this stuff, but just this any way to you know, take a gun or claim you're dangerous and then I tell you something as far as like these threats. If somebody knows you defend yourself, well you're a threat to somebody, you know what I mean. It's just according on what pecking order they are in the in the political you know, spectrum or whatever. You know,
who they slept in, lived or you know whatever. But I mean, but maybe go ahead. I was, I was just gonna say that also brings up the you know, the point of view of concealed carry and how fates that have that have much lower crime rates. And that's something that the other side doesn't seem to get. Not really sure. I mean, granted, this isn't the eighteen fifties out West, where everybody carried a gun or
everybody had a gun. You've got countries like Switzerland where a lot of the citizenry are members of the military reserve and they're required to carry, you know, have a gun in their home. The funny thing is, in Switzerland, the number one method of suicide and that's something else tied to gun ownership. That one side seems to throw out there. You know, we have
a lot of people that come to suicide. Well, Switzerland has one of the highest per capita home gun possession numbers, and their best form of suicide is just walking in front of a train. It's weird. I mean when you look at it world why and some of the laws that we have, and especially here in the States where we have, you know, something in our constitution that says you have a right to do this. How they have
legally thrown up all of these roadblocks in front of that. You know, you can't have an AK four, You can't have a fully of automatic machine gun. Well you can if you've got the right permits, but you have to keep out in a certain place. You can't keep it in your home. Yeah, it's weird. I don't think it'll ever be settled. I
don't know. Well, you know, I don't sew a few other things out here because I'm gonna have to get my stuff out, you know, head down the road and I'll try to tile back and get that on the inter state. I'm trying to run from the snowstore. But you know, all this stuff that's came up like that decision that you're sitting here talking about. And I mentioned this stuff, you know, on Choke Show a little
bit and a few other you know podcasts that I'm on. You get these decisions like this run decision and you see all these guys come out here and it's like a form of qunon. I'm sorry, I don't hurt anybody's feelings, but after you've seen the same gimmick over and over, when you you know, when people was saying wrestling was fake, you know, back in you know, my younger days, and you're like, oh, you know, you're just jealous or you're you're a prick, and you know back when
as a kid, you know, I say stuff like that. But when you see Rick Flair flip over that top rope and run down the side of that apron, you know, six thousand times, well then you have to start thinking, huh, you know, they may be something to that. You know that this might be rigged, you know what I'm saying. But you know, you see these and what's really said, bpee is you get
that. I don't know if it's the one that you're talking about or not, but they was some kind of decision down in Texas where this guy from everything I heard, and he was a bad example. He was a Pierce gumbag and it already doesn't been convicted on a bunch of other ship and he got that restrain in order dropped. I think that's the same case if you keep reading. But there's never a landmark decision to whur. Okay, this
means something at best. It always turns into some kind of legal eased where you've got a basis for an argument when it's your ass and if you've got the money to go through all of it, you know, and then look at the stuff on the first Amendment. I was listening to Don Jeffrey Show to that he had a guy on right and that wrote a book about fd R and some of the stuff that he done, and that tournament camp, so forth and so on. I wish I could remember his name, but
Beto, Yeah, yeah, that's it. I had the same guy on last week. Okay, so you know what I'm talking about. You go, We's Tuck Show. I'm sure he says the same thing he said on
dogs. But anyway, outside a few spots like that, way before we was even born, post of my life, just to hear lately, and yeah, we've had a lot of a you know, like censorship and you know, everybody, you know, you can't say this, and I've always said that there's always been something wrong or you know, everybody's always saying you can't say that. There's no way to an accident meets on your life.
That's why we spend that. Sorry, sorry, good but but what my point is, look at the stuff that people could go out here and say, look at the flat out line that we've seen. Look at you know, I mean some of you younger folks, you know, probably don't remember done this, but you know, fifteen twenty years ago, you had clan members and especially twenty five and thirty out here in all these towns out here dressed up like clowns, screaming in were this and you know, blah blah
blah, and that was legal, that was protected. But at that same time, back before I all these carried from me, it's come along, you couldn't have a damn shotgun, you know, behind your seats and hit loaded. It was like, you know, you was some monster or something in Chicago in the twenties and you've got ready to go down here, and you know, shoot up a place or something. But that's kind of shit like that. You know, I could go for some of this stuff that
they're talking about, but you're gonna have to give back ninety percent. You're gonna have to cut back all of it. You know. If you want me to register something, okay, well let's cut off now percent of this bullshit. How about that? Well, well that dude, if I are is that bad, I tell you what, I give you the motherfucker if you want, I cut it up. But you're going to have to turn loose and the rest of us ship, you know, no more of this bullshit. You can't do this. You can't go here, You can't you
know, defend yourself. Cut all that right there out and you can take it. I are to stick it up your grass. You know, you said you stand right there and hold it. You can slide back on it. But I am so sick of the average person just all the time. It's something that you've got to be punished. Well all that you know here the last leap We've all heard this somewhere about and I'm not trying to get off into the Israel thing this week, but I'm just saying we've heard about
collective punishments. Oh they just think, you know, there ain't nobody going for the collective punishment of the people in gosp It's the same thing, you know, on you any kind of bill of right stuff, not just a second, you know, the first and the fourth is the other two main ones that everybody wants to pick a stripped down. But it all goes back to the want of bad apple turns the whole bunch. How many times when most of us sazensco, one person bens up and you can't do this?
Hell, where's all the talk about click to punishment? That there you go. I'm gonna put Harlan on hold because we do have Vance on the line as well. So I'm just gonna go right on over to him, because Harlan kept going there and he said he's gonna call back in anyway. So, uh, let's see what Vance has to say here. Vance, how are you uh crappy? How about y'all? Eh? You know a lovely, wonderful living to dream baby and which is supposed to live in the dream?
Absolutely, So I got Advance on the line. But also, oh, we haven't heard from Joe in a minute. Want to make sure he did, and Paul sleep, Joe, you're hearing all this right, Yeah, I'm still with you, man, Okay, cool, I just want to make sure you're still there, bro Advance, Go aheadvance, and then uh maybe you know, bet Pete, we'll figure out where to shuffle them from there, maybe take a break even, but go aheadvance. I guess
you know, since we're on the gun control know that or whatever. But that's been my you know, mantra for a long time is the Second Amendment is my right to carry. I don't need their permission to carry. I mean, I I think I told the story on here a long time ago. You know that I told Ted Nugent that one of his bow hunter meetings and stuff when he was encouraging everybody to get their concealed carry permit. And you know, it's like, well, look, you know, y'all looking
at this all wrong. You know, in my mind, the Second Amendment is my right to carry, and so why do I need their permission to you know, do you what something that I you know, already have permission to do. You're just setting yourself up for the control and you know what, you know, leading into the the regulations and the rules and the checks and the you know, all the other stuff. You know, you can make all the rules you want and all, you know, put all the
restrictions on anybody you want. But if they want to do that, they're going to figure out where to do it, you know. So there's no you know, there's there's laws against everything he did, but he did it anyway, right, So you know, the law doesn't protect you from anything. And when you start to making laws that restrict people that aren't guilty, you know, like Harland said, you know, guilty by association just because you're in a gun, well you know that there there's no no precedent to
you know, force that on everyone else. And so those those laws that are intended to stop something that can't be stopped just end up stopping people that have good intentions and you know, keeping the honest people from you know, being able to you know, protect themselves and have access and etc. Etc. So you know what's funny, man, Let me just interrupt you with
a quick thought here, because I find this hilarious. For one reason, I was doing a little bit of mafia research on on a guy named Anthony Casso or or Kso depending on how you pronounced it Tony Casso uh Ni nicknamed gas pipe anyways, interesting guy who played a serious role in the big gas scam. Then went on for a while there in the Northeast and I was, you know, just doing a little research on it, and uh he gave almost exactly the same speech that you just gave in a jailhouse interview a
couple of years ago, related to this about about guns. It was very funny. And then I entered his text, you know, basically the transcript of that into a search engine, and I found almost an exact match for the word for word from Sammy de Bolgravano, also related to guns, where they basically make the case with the exception there's a little difference in your speech and theirs is that, you know, when it comes to people like us having guns, this is the way this rolls. I'm gonna have that gun
anyway. So you're in a place where there's less guns, Guess what they start from the premise of I am the criminal, and guess what This is the way this works. If I want a gun, I'm gonna have it anyway. You're restricted in the states around me. You restricted in the state I'm in I'll get it from another country. It don't matter, I'll get it from somewhere because I'm always gonna have weapons and I'm always gonna have enough firepower to do what it is I got to do. That is effectively their
argument, except in that equation, they're the criminal. So I'm just telling you that it just coincidentally, as I was just doing a search, I was looking at common things that were being said between people that I knew were involved in the same conspiracy, not related to guns at all, But it just so happened that that part of exactly what they were saying was repeated verbatim among groups of guys in the Northeast that were clearly involved in criminal enterprises.
So go ahead, Vance, I just wanted to point that out. Well, and you know, just like you know, DP was mentioning, you know this, the records show that, you know, the states that have the most gun ownership have the lowest you know, open carry states and all that have you know, much lower crime rates than the ones that have all the controls. You go to Washington, d C. One of the you know fust crime you know, highest crime rates of anywhere on the planet,
and they got the most foot laws. So you know, it's it's obvious, it's just for show and and the only you know, true result is making it harder for everyone else and driving a cost and you can't even get ammunition. You know, it costs you ten dollars for a box of twenty two shelves now, and you know, it's it's just insane, you know.
So, I mean the true like we're not in the wild West days and all that, but there's still a strong, you know culture of you know, you know, people that were settlers in Texas and the other states and you know, the United States, and you know, there's a there's a you know, there's a you know, I don't deer hunt anymore. I mean, my family is you know, you know, real involved in deer hunting. I haven't killed the deer since like nineteen eighty five was last
time I went hunting. And you know, so it's you know, but I still enjoy having guns, and I'm you know, confident that you know, the power goes out and the ship hits the fan if there's deer around,
I can kill a deer or a rabbit or squirrel or whatever. I got a kill to eat it and I know how to you know, skin it and clean it, and you know, so those are all good things to know, you know, and and it shouldn't be any kind of you know uh uh uh you know, uh major ordeal for the average you know, for anybody just to have that option to to you know, participate in
those things. But now they've priced everything so out of you know, a proportionally rich people can afford to hunt anymore pretty much, you know, unless you're out to own land or have access to someone that owns land that you know will let you hunt there for free or whatever. So you know, I guess that's just inflation. Fair enough, he Joe, you got a new commentary you want to drop in before we turn it back over to BP
for him to decide where we go next to what we do. Well, you know, I live in Kentucky and all the laws here well pretty relax when it comes to guns. I mean, you don't have how to permit to carry it concealed or anything. So I have guns, and I kind of see the whole argument. I never get emotional about it for the simple reason I never see this government actually banning, you know, the citizens from owning guns here. We're clearly trying to turn us against each other. Anyway,
Why would they disarm you? Why do they care about your forty five or your ar? You know, if you know, I got tanks and drones. Fair enough, fair enough, I'll tell you. One thing weird about the Texas law, by the way, is that I was reading up on it, and apparently a handgun carry is just fine, but it must be in a holster. Apparently you can get some sort of fine if it's not in a holster. I don't know what that's about, but I'll continue to look into it. Anyways. Yeah, fair enough, point though,
Joe, so b Pete. What do we do next, my friend? Oh, well, we can see if anybody's got any new topics. Falled off. But this story I saw earlier today, I set it aside just so I could bring it up. But an individual has done a study that find the guys. You know. He's a computer guy, he's numbers guy, and he went through looking at the data and he claims that our famous mRNA mRNA COVID shots have actually killed three and a half times more Americans than
the virus itself. And there's a tech entrepreneur the guy's name is Steve Kersch. He's got a Bachelor of Science at a Master of Science and Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from MIT. Graduated from there in nineteen eighty and he founded an organization called the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation. And on his sub stack he was responding to an attack by an LA Times journalist against a paper authored by
MSU professor Mark Skidmore. And Skidmore wrote this paper that showed two hundred and seventeen thousand Americans were killed in twenty twenty one by the vaccines themselves, and of course here comes the whole media on top of them all. This isn't
true, this is you know, it's bull. You go to the CDC and the National Institute of Health, and in fact, if you search for this study, Google is going to bring up twenty seven entries of fact checkers associated with every major news organization saying that you know this is this isn't true, nobody died from the vaccine, blah blah blah. Well, this guy got his paper peer reviewed and it was published in the Public Health Policy Journal.
So this other guy started looking at it and said, well, let's dive into it and see what we can find and it said that the results that they're coming up with a survey of over ten thousand Americans showed that COVID vaccines killed three and a half times as many people as the virus itself. I found it very interesting. We've not heard a peep of it anywhere in
the major media. Well I'm seeing actually tons of peeps. All the people say that the article has been withdrawn because the study was flawed is what they have plastered all over the place. So I'm just saying that's that's what I see everywhere at the moment, and I think that's what you're talking about, is what Google will tell you. Uh yeah, by MSU professor controversial vaccine study. My recent Michigan State University economics professor claims that okay, and withdrawn
article. Withdrawn article, right, yeah, But this this article is where another guy looked at his data and he's coming up with the data that basically says not a guy's right. So maybe we'll see more of this. So the story I'm looking at was dated today twenty six so or yesterday. Put today. Please please put that in the chat room if you would, at o'celli dot com. I appreciate it, guy Advance. You were going to
say something in response. And it's funny how, you know, on the gun issue and the safety and deaths and you know, potential harm and all that, they want to throw that back on the gun manufacturers and you know, try to run them out of business or put their products priced them out of range or whatever. But the vaccine manufacturers are immune. Absolutely a good point. Excellent points right. That is exactly right. There is a huge
point to be made. There is because it is called a vaccine. Regardless of what you think that concoction, that medication is quite frankly, because it's called a vaccine, it has special protections under the law, and immunity is given. Plus, don't forget a lot of this stuff that could be studied means that the quote vaccine end quote was released under emergency provisions, which provided another layer of legal protection from any liability. I'm not kidding anything done under
the emergency. Look it up under emergency circumstances by the government. I mean, so you have multiple layers of protection for the manufacturers of the vaccines. Best I can tell you know, you know, problem reaction solution, you know, create a creat a crisis. I have a question, when are we going to see the lawsuit against the gun manufacturers to provide the weapons that the US military uses. Yeah, again, I don't think you can. But that's a different level of uh, yeah, I don't think. I
don't think you can. I think there's some something that's built in there that just can. You can't do it, because you would think every country in the world actually that has ever had to deal with US and combat in the past. I don't know a couple of decades could easily file that suit,
right, I don't think it's possible. I don't know. Well, I mean, if you're going to carry the point to the extreme, you know, if I were trying to ban these guns, we're trying to hold Smith and Wesson responsible or Armorlite for the AR fifteen and all the damage that's done. Well, let's hold raytheon and let's see who else makes sidewinder missiles and anti or ICBMs, and I mean, let's let's push it all away. Weapons or weapons, you know, and a weapon of mass destruction is worse
than a simple six shot revolver. I keep under my seat, you know, in case something happens in the dark of night. It's just, you know, funny, the way that people want to they want to assign responsibility to a legal entity that's making a legal product. But yet in certain circumstances, you'll find these states that will go out, I mean, and whip up a prosecution against someone simply because they make a weapon of choice. It's
it's funny. Oh. Update, Arizona Diamondbacks are leading the Texas Rangers three to two. Looks like top of the third. Okay, I'm I'm mute, advance. We now have Jimmy James on hold, and just want to say that, you know, just the food for thought is that if somebody beats somebody to death with a you know, an adjustable wrench or a spanner or a crescent wrench, you can't exactly sue the wrench manufacturer for somebody deciding
to use a tool as a weapon. And I don't know, you know, again I'm crazy because that logical argument would not enter into the equation. I'm sure, But you know, then again, I'm one of these nuts that thinks that if you know, cannabis is part of your religious practices, that means that technically speaking, you can't you know, preclude someone from utilizing cannabis in any place because it would interfere with their ability to practice their religion
if it is part of your spiritual practices to utilize it. Uh, just saying, but no, absolutely, But you know, then when are we going to go after the famous and it's been famous for a lot of years? Of rolling pin? How many women have wielded a rolling pin? You know at a disc rolls? You know, mate, I'd love to see I'd love to see the makers of a frying pan I had. You know, my my first wife rather famously clocked me with a frying pan one time. Pretty bad. I was cast Uh No, it was one of those
coded jobs. But it was pretty heavy. It was not not a you know, dollar store model frying pan. It was pretty heavy. Uh. I think I told the story once on air. My my daughter reacted and attacked my my then wife for attacking daddy because she hit me in the back with that sucker right after I'd gotten some of those shots in my back to try and deal with the uh, the pain. I had gotten a steroid
slash painkill shots in my back, trigger point shots they called them. And I was barely walking around with the shots in my back and she decided to hit me when my back was turned with a frank pan like that. And I can't sue the frankpan manufacturer. I'm just saying, you know, I wouldn't try. I'd like to, though, because I believe that company had a lot of money. I mean, they would probably pay me off if I could get a suit through. But no, you know, there you
go. I just described something to you that's completely nuts. So I don't understand this suing a gun manufacturer or anything else. Because you choose to use a tool as a weapon, that's your choice, that's your problem. That's your liability, in my mind, not the liability of the manufacturer. I mean, if you're making dynamite, if you're making something that is explosive,
again, somebody could argue that that's a tool as well. I mean, dynamite is used to clear away rock and to do other things like excavation, but you know, or to demolish buildings, et cetera. There again, you have something that is a tool which could be utilized to do destructive things. Absolutely absolutely, and you bring up that point. I saw something on YouTube today that kind of made me think. I saw I didn't watch the video, but I saw the thumbnail for it, and I was gonna play
it later. A guy shows how to make an expedient homemade furmite grenade and he's using a tin It looks like a tin can from pork and beans or whatever would a fuse in it, which makes me wonder YouTube will demonetize somebody for coming up with some obscene or off the wall conspiracy, But here we have a guy showing how to make a weapon of mass destruction and it's still
up there. I just find that utterly amazing. Well, just like some people are literally allowed to threaten other people online through a video, and some people are not, And some people are allowed to do it for a little while until they decide to demonetize and take down their channels, and then other people get blamed for making threats against other human beings even though they did no
such thing under the same community guide. But no, yeah, you were what you were penalized for abusing a dead guy, cyber stalking technically yeah, cyberstalking and bullying Jeffrey bullying a dead guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I'll tell you what. Let's go to uh, Jimmy, we missed him last week. Let's go ahead and bring him on and see what he's got to say about things. There you go, Jimmy James sells. What's going on? Well, if you haven't been listening, uh, we've had a
bit of a you know, rolling discussion regarding a bunch of things. Have you caught it yet or did you You just tuning in. I'm just tuning in. I was just came out of a deep, deep, deep meditation. Nice. Nice. That's always a good positive there, and I appreciate you, man. I want to thank you, by the way, because Jimmy James recently threw something in which anybody can do at o'chelly dot com toward Indeed, some of my money had to go toward having a tooth yanked out
of my mouth. But for the most part, I'm trying to collect up money to go to Texas and keep the network running simultaneously. So that's what's going on. But indeed, I did have to reach out to some particular listeners, and I want to give a shout out to Pat and also to John, who you know, were participants in helping me extract an infected thing. Well, not the tooth is not infected, but it was causing an
infection, So extraction of yet another tooth and appreciate it anyways. But now we're back to trying to put together money for Texas, so there we go. Anyway, But Jimmy had recently dropped something in, so I want to thank you directly. Well, no problem, any goodhead. Yeah, I just came out of meditation, so I better clear all of my other worldly thoughts and bring myself back to this smortal plane. I to think clearly. Would you like me to put you on hold while you adjust yourself a bit
and we move along a little bit and come back here. Yes, yes, I think it's best that I just takes I'm too I'm just too holy right now, Chuck, I'm just too holy. Wow. Excellent. Well, I'll put you on hold. I'll put you on hold, and now we have the Zen Jimmy James on holding the bullpen as well along with I think Harlan might still be there. Oh no, Harlan might have dropped and
we do have advance. So either way, Harlan said he would return later and anybody else can join us at three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six. Joe I know you haven't been regularly listening, but we have a rare situation here with the Zen Jimmy James on the line. Just so you know, anyway, any comments you want to throw in here, I just want some of what Jimmy James has got. Man. Yeah, me too. I thought I I thought I was doing great here
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My co host b Pete is with me as well as our friend regular Joe. So there you go. It's open night, open mic Friday Night, Prior's Day three to one nine, five, two seven five zero one six, as I straightened to get it out and UH turn it over to my two costs tonight. Uh, but normally just the one. So we'll let him lead. Be Pete leading the co host team here, and hopefully I can just shut up and listen to most of this. We also still have
on the lines. Let's just make sure about it. We have on the lines Jimmy James, who was very zen when we uh went to him on the line. And our friend Vance, who is in typical fantastic mode. Sounds like to me, maybe it's fantastic, maybe it's fantastic, I forget anyway. Either way, he sounded pretty good, and uh you could sound good too. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six is the number to call and join us, So be Pete. Where do we go
next? Well, let me run down a few headlines here and then we'll see if any other worthy of discussion, and if not, then we'll we'll come up with something else. So UH, to lead off the pack here, let me get to the top of the list. The US economy is growing at the fastest pace in two years, and that's understandable considering that two years ago, we were still going through COVID warsaw. Poland has the second highest unemployment rate in Europe. As we moved down the list, let's see
the A c l This one surprised me. The a c l U backs Trump in his fight against a DC judge's gag order. That's a weird combination there. Usually the A c l U is kind of against everything that Trump ever wanted to do. I find that. I find that one strange. I have to go back and read that one course by demands of the assault they haven't made. I'm sorry, the a c l U has not made any sort of sense. No logical thread can be found in the A c l U in the past decade anyway, So, uh, chaos there.
You never know what's Yeah, may's funny that that they're backing someone like Trump. But find yeah they used to be liberal Biden. Yeah good, so well, they used to be liberal, but nowadays they seem to side with a lot of people who are happy to suppress free speech, which is not what the ACLU was meant to do. So I don't understand where they're coming from on anything. Anyway. Uh why not? Sure? Why not do this? And also represent a monkey in a suit against I don't know a
circus. Go for it? I mean, what can I tell you? Yeah? Why not? That's that's where I go with it. Why not? That makes sense a clu. Sure they could. They could fight for Trump, and they could also sue all the news networks for agism against Biden simultaneously with a straight face, no problem, do it. That's why. Absolutely, go ahead. Okay, let's see. Of course, President Biden demands an assault weapons ban after the main shooting, despite that the suspect was
likely banned from owning a gun to begin with. Breaking poll and I didn't realize that this was an issue. Fifty five percent of American voters do not want our Glenn Youngkin presidential campaign in twenty twenty four. And for the listeners who aren't aware, Glenn Youngkin was the individual whoo pulled off a surprise Republican win as governor of Virginia, which has been very liberal up till this last
election. See, I'm even more surprised that they could get enough people together to know who Glenn Youngkin is even to answer the question how about that? Americans? I got a problem thinking that they even knew who the hell that was. Go ahead, sorry, and I'm going to have to go watch this one. Let's see Civil Liberties documentary Police State I have I've heard about this a couple of times. I don't know if this is this a Denish
Desuza production. I'm not sure. We'll have to let me pull that over. Yeah, Denis Desuza did this one. You know, he's very controversial anything that he does. Let's see a former Gainesville residence was sent into three years in prison for trying to join Isis. George Soros and Bill Gates funded Aspen Institute is hit with the censorship collusion laws suit. That's interesting. I really love to see somebody getting Bill Gates pocket, Soros and Gates working together.
Well, his ex wife took half of the Gates money, didn't she the Gates Foundation. I don't think she quite got half. She may have, but I don't think it was quite half. I think he ended up with the better of the deal. Apparently he had a better lawyer than I did. Let's see, of course, a lot in here on the main shoot, a lot of little stories on the background and how it happened and what started in timeline let's see new US House speaker opposes gender ideology in Ukraine
funding strange. You do have a uniw new US House speaker, so that's one thing too that's new this week. You know, we've actually got another caller added to the line. So right now we got advanced Jimmy James and a new caller. So okay, two quick little stories. RFK Junior quietly changes his stance on reparations after a major blowback. Apparently he opened his mouth
and inserted foot and people reminded him of it. And we have an individual who was arrested for showing up at RFK Junior's home out in California twice in the same day. So he's got his stalkers going after him. But yeah, we can bring in the new caller and we'll continue with some headlines after a bit funny as the RFK Junior story is actually behind the times because I've
been reading about it for the past month. There have been a couple of intrusions by people that were unwanted guests at RFK Junior's home, and they're continuing to argue why is it that he does and have Secret Service protection among his supporters Just saying it's been going on for about a month that I can track for sure, and stories that are being written but ignored by the majority of the corporate media, just saying alrighty, So with that in mind, we
have at least one new caller. Let's just check down the list real fast. Yep, we got one new caller, so let's bring him on. Finally, spent Kent has come back on Friday nights. Are you ready to go one on one with the spent one? That question is to you, chuck O Chelley, Wow, yes, how you doing, my brother? I'm back, just goofing off? How are you doing? I'm feeling like crap. I just had a tooth out and I'm just born out. But
anyway, how you doing? You send me that crazy message this tooth and one you guys are doing though, So I did send you a message back, but the best I could respond, So I thought you got a bad tooth there. And Facebook, Sorry about that? Yeah, Facebook, I only checked once a week. Sorry about that. I will look at it now though. As you're speaking, good, well, maybe we'll get the show relaunched here here tomorrow or or exuse me, Sunday or next Sunday.
So we'll see, all right, everybody's welcome right to participate. Well, right, so you're going to be doing a Sunday night show with leap here and let's see. Okay, I see your message now, but with leap here and are you what are you calling it the super show too? Or what is it called? Now? Oh? No, no super show that was Friday Night. That's how they were finally spent chance come back to Friday night. But yeah, this is the Sunday Night Titans. Leaves a mile
here and spent. Can't to spent one Sunday Night Titans with you know, presents whatever you want to say. The bottom of the feed show. Okay, let's see. I think I have a link to it. You see the bottom of the feed or whatever, like the ones they try to hide and everything got it, the bottom of the fat, the bottom of the feed. I'm gonna put a link to it. Neil Shelly chat room. So if you guys want to check it out on Sunday, could be live
this Sunday or next what time? I think six pm Eastern Like we did a couple of shows, just goofing around back in late July mid July I remember somewhere around there, and I think we'd about two or three and we're doing them at six o'clock, So it kind of depends on what he wants to do, but I think we're going to go with six pm Eastern. There you go. But if you check that link that I put in the ol Kelly chat room, it'll definitely be called or Driven and the the Titans
and all that good stuff. Over at block Talk Radio. It says the
bottom of the feed that is the title of it. And if you go over there, it'll probably tell you when the live show is launching on Sunday whenever Leaf sets it up and puts the announcement up, So you guys to be able to go over there and join in with the chaos that is with leave them out there you go, And yeah, I have to actually get a hold of I haven't talked to Lee yet, but I'm supposed to go on here pretty soon, so I wanted to jump on with you guys and
say hey and everything. But there, you know, I'll get on his ass make sure he does what he's supposed to do so everybody can check out the show. If we launched Sunday, you know, that's pretty quick. That's two days away, but you know, if not, we'll definitely be launching a week from Sunday, right, so this Sunday. So what else we want callers? We want everybody right this Sunday or next, this Sunday
or next. You can follow that link that I put in the Ocelli chat room, and if you're hearing this in the podcast form, go ahead and roll back to chat at Ocelli dot com on the listen live page and you'll see it there. Block talk radio. Slash the oh, the bottom of the feed is what it is. So block talk radio. Slash the bottom of the feed and there you go. Anyways, what's on your mind? Uh, spen camp? Besides that nothing, I didn't even feel like time
on politics. I'm so disgusted with the mainstream media, so distrusted with the human race. Right now, I'm trying to try, let's let's try what's something? Can we all think of something positive going on in the world. That's that's like what I'm trying to think about, you know, And I can give one go ahead, explore dot org live like everything cams, like all nature cams, like bear cams, and I've been watching the bears from
tatme all summer and man, it is actual medicine. Like if you're watching mainstream media, and even if you watch you know us, you know good people that you know, know different things that not that's not on the mainstream
media, not getting in anything. It's just specific. But just to get away from that, you watch like bears or you watch eagles or whatever, and just like if you can't be out there in nature, but just be able to watch them on your big stream screen instead of you know, a Republican democrat arguing this and all that nonsense is just it's like medicine watching nature and Nike spear into nature, it's medicine. Yeah, dozens of live webcams
over there. They got everything from fish to they're featuring brown bears. Let's say Brooks Falls down that coastal brown bears from Katmane National Park in Alaska, YEP at Brooks Falls and there's these guys are awesome. Bucky Dent one six four Buckie Dent, he's my boy. He's like mischievous, like if spent Kent was a bear, the spent one was a Bear's that dude. And he's only like six to six and a half years old. I know I'm
one hundred and seven here might as well be I'm fifty three. You know, Buck Dent got older, but Bucky du Yeah, named after the banks player he got a dent on his news. Nice. So Bucky Dent is named after the baseball player he used to play for the Yankees, because he's got a dent on his nose. Huh, cool, cool stuff. They also called him the shower bear because the only one who goes up under the waterfalls and eats fish and catches the fish under the walls. You know,
there's bears above them, there's bears behind him. He goes up, gets his ear wet and catch his fish and he's just like he's just a smart bear. And he's one of my favorites. And there's a guy with a long neck named Gully and but you know they're about ready to hibernate. Now. Otis, by the way, Otis is the old twenty eight year old bear that's been there is you know, you look up cat Made, you'll see Otis so just an awesome it's medicine. If you watch that stuff,
it's just just get out of the mainstream everything and just watching bears. It's eagles or otters or whatever. Explored dot org has to offer great, great organization. All right, go ahead, Sorry, No, I just wanted to say, I'm going to put the link in the chat room here for it. It's got everything from bats in the Red Pandafarest polar bears, oh yeah, all kinds of stuff, African wildlife, so you know it's not just bears. And people are going, oh, I don't want to watch
bears, well, then don't go watch the bats. Uh. The bats in the cave looks pretty interesting to me. Uh if they just you know, kind of follow that stuff. But they got dozens and dozens I don't know, maybe hundreds of webcams. Looks like to me all like I've never watched like more than five seconds of it. But they they're like awesome looking creatures and there's you know, like I said, the bears are fun and when you're up watching brook Falls, because you see the hierarchy and you can
recognize they're they're labeled by their numbers. But if some of them have nicknames, like I said, Bucky dn is a nickname from baseball player, right because he's got a little dent on and he also he's also been called shower bear. Hey Joe, before he was ever labeled with the number, But you get once you're an adult, you get labeled with number and you can follow these bears. Sorry, regular Joe, you know you're you're a nature
watcher yourself. Uh So, I was curious you ever heard of this explorer dot org with the with the live webcams all over the place, different animals and stuff. I have not heard of that. Actually it's the first I'm hearing of it. But now you know, you realize I do kind of live in the woods, so I've been watching thirteen squirrels and four white tailed
deer pass through my yard all year. Oh yeah, of course. But what I'm saying is, if you want to go look at African elephants or bats or some of these bears that spent Kent's talking about, I mean, there's a variety there at this website might be a whole lot better viewing than what you can get from you know, most of your streaming services. Huh yeah, probably. I think the best thing I've watched lately is that new
documentary on Netflix. Now that you mentioned streaming services, about ed and Lorraine more in the case where they put the devil on trial. Oh yeah, they they actually interview that family. That's been like the best thing I've seen streaming lately. But Maker's always better. Oh yes, no, legendary the
Warrens thing and whatnot. And look, I watch cartoons. I'm enjoying the new season of Rick and Morty, although that last episode was kind of crappy, but uh, you know, just saying I enjoy my cartoons and you got to escape from the crap of the world every now and then and spen cat bringing something good. Uh, definitely, I would recommend this. Explore dot org. The live cans. They look really cool, so nice stuff. They've got fish too, by the way, it looks like there's fish.
There's all kinds of stuff on there. Anyways, Okay, I just want to get your commentary. The book Falls has like seven different cams and one of them is an auto underwater cam by the bridge that you cross if you're there, and sometimes beers that are getting fish and everything, and like if you watch it right now there it's not highlights because it's also little powered and it's up in Alaska. And so as we were going in the winter.
They're going in the winter a little quicker, so there's less sunlight and these things are so epowered, so they play highlights on those different cameras. But there's like seven different cameras. There's a mountain camera and everything else. And they picked up all kinds of stuff with the bears and once in a while a moose or or a wolf even, but that's very rare. Are
starting to hibernate already too, because you know we've talked before. I had a pet squirrel that you know, my wife rescued last year when he was an abandoned baby. He's sleeping more say time already, So I'm actually at hibernate times alas every of them. Yeah, you're right, they're ready. Some of them might already be hibernate that I've watched over the summer, but as far as the bears go, but yeah, this is this is the time. I mean, if it's not right now, it's within the next
couple of days to a week or whatever. It's it's sleepy time for them. You know, I meant to tell you, Joe, you could probably do an Instagram or a or a Twitter account for the squirrel and uh, it would probably be really popular. You get somebody to sponsor that thing, even if you put it out there, you probably yeah, yeah, probably, But then you know how I feel like any kind of social media is
intrusive to me. But it would be the squirrels. It would be the squirrel's social media account, right, and it would be just I don't know. It just sounds like fun to me to have the squirrel be on social media. And I'm thinking it could create an income stream for you if people want to sponsor it or subscribe to it. You can set up subscriptions at Twitter now even so, you know, just a thing I thought, Yeah, he is an entertaining little fellow. I'll tell you that. That's he
keeps you busy all day. There you go, and I'm sure you could supply him with some more nuts. That a way, And I don't mean the people watching the stream. There you go, squirrels and nuts, all right, be Pete back to you. Well, let's see, Oh I did I did find a naked news article. We haven't had naked days in a while. Let's see. We'll have Jimmy advance on hold two. By the way, just just to make a note, uh, and I think
Harlan will return at some point. So right now, I just got spend kent on the open line, but just letting you know in case you want to run through other callers or whatever. Okay, well, let's see, let's bring up the naked news first. This a Fargo woman, Fargo, North Dakota. When was the last time you heard about something happening in Fargo? So the Fargo woman is facing several charges, including terrorizing and preventing arrest
after refusing to leave a man's apartment. Tara Joe Nelson is charged in Cass County Court with terrorizing, criminal trespass, and preventing arrests, which are all felonies. Chelsea faces two misdemeanor charges of criminal mischief and discordly conduct. Disorderly conduct, I got a question already, you know, venting arrest or you know, eluding arrest or flight to evade arrest. It's you know, if you're gonna be arrested, why is it against the law to try to not
be arrested? Because we all know that once you're arrested, it's gonna cost you in the long run. You're gonna sit in jail, you're gonna have to pay a bond. If they, you know, put a bond, you might be held without bond. You're gonna have to get a lawyer. Of course, you're gonna have to get a court appointed attorney if you can't afford one. But there's still a bunch of costs involved lost time at work. So why I mean, it's it seems funny that we are penalizing people
are trying not to get arrested. But anyway, according to court documents, Farger police were called to an apartment around six sixteen PM. A man said Nelson assaulted him and was throwing thing around his apartment. When officers arrived. They say Nelson was fully nude appeared to be under the influence. Police say Nelson wouldn't listen when they asked her to put on clothes and leave the apartment. The man says Nelson punched him in the gut, kicked him, and
hit him in the head with a small ukulele. Now I've never really seen a big ukulele. I'm sure they have him, but most times when you say ukulele, you think small. He claims she threate to kill him during the assault, and he feared for his life. He also told officers that Nelson's destroyed about three hundred dollars worth of property. At one point, police say Nelson pushed a chair towards an officer and then suddenly rushed towards them.
The officers detained her, but she said she was actively resisting. According to court documents, the officers were able to get a shirt on Nelson, but say she refused to put on pants. While walking to the squad car, police say Nelson began kicking her feet back from under her, so the officers were forced to carry her to the squad car. She was arrested and booked
into the Cass County Jail after being medically cleared at the hospital. So apparently they check you medically, but they don't check your psychologically before they throw you in the clink. He a medical check could involve psycho a psycho you know the syche check as well. You don't know that for sure, right, Well doesn't say so, yes, I am a saving that. When they say medical, then you know they checked her out for injuries or things of
that nature. But yeah, they very well have run a side check. Oh no, I say. We asked each of the three guys on the line starting with speed Cat and then also get Joe's view on this. But let Joe have a minute to absorb it. As a side note, I was gonna say, as a side note, a gentleman that started all of our naked news, mister James Cody Picard, the I guess you'd say,
ring doorbell camera dude. Oh, the guy with the carjacking trying to carjack people naked and well, yeah, he tried to break in, steal the car, slam the French Broad River naked in the middle of the night and everything. He is scheduled for court on the sixteenth of January of next year. So he's been in jail now for three years. Yeah, still a waiting trial on some fifty charges. Three years, three years, I tell you that's a long time. That's a lot. It is, it is.
I mean, you know, the funny thing is most of the stuff he's charged with, yeah, they probably wouldn't do three years. Well that's what I'm thinking is at the end of it, a lot of it could be just chalked up the time served. But anyway, I guess we'll have to keep track of that drama as we go. So Sped can't any commentary. Have you ever had an X that was naked in your house refusing to leave? Have you ever had the cops have to come and remove some woman
from your house who is naked and refusing to leave? Or have you ever been naked in someone's house and refuse to leave? I don't even want to think about that. But we spent Can all of you guilty of all three? No problem? No, no, no, no. I'm a good guy. Mess around any like that. I play video games and make music. That's what I do. And talk on the radio. Well if you go, yeah, I go to my job and that's about it. Some
gaming discords, you know, some gaming discords. I've heard of people meeting up in weird ways on gaming platforms and uh, you know, you never know. You could wind up with a naked woman in your house if you can find a woman playing again aim online? Maybe right? No? Wow? Man? If I should? I mean, how do I go about it? Because that is something? Okay, So spin Kent wants to know how you make this happen? All right? Gots okay? So hey,
I'm fifty three. I'm not getting any younger guys. A yeah, fifty one over here, and I'm sure even neither one of us is in good shape. Let's put you on hold. Who should we go to next about the question of the naked news be Pete, what do you think is Joe still willis absolutely Joe? What about you? You've had time to let this percolate, and I know you're married nowadays. But I mean, has there ever been a circumstance where naked woman was refusing to leave your house or something
like that. I have been in some strange situations involving naked women, but nothing like that. And I cannot get the image of this shirted, fanciless woman getting the rest and like Donald Duck in the middle of the night, she stack Donald Ducking it in the handcuffs. Man, there you go and kicks shake that kicking and fighting the whole way too. That's that's dedication, that's commitment. Yeah. Now, Donald Duck was Donald Duck was always pantsless
and Mickey Mouse was always shirtless. They must have shared a wardrobe, man, Well, it could have been, but Minie was always fully dressed. See, I've always had that circumstance weary. I mean, I've been in the circumstance where really quickly, you try and retrieve clothes. You only find one pile of clothes, and then somebody ends up with the shirt and somebody else ends up with the pants. That has happened before, but uh not with another guy. I don't know, you know, I'm not sure what's
going on there. I ended up with pink socks on one time. M hm. Was halfway through my day before I realized I was wearing pink socks. Well now they were they grabbed in a moment of panic or did you pull them out of the dresser drawer and just not realizing, just half asleep and getting ready to go and put on those socks, and didn't know until I was halfway through my day, those are not my socks. Shall we disturb Jimmy James zen position with the question or or should we go to dvance
next? Which you want to be Pete, Oh, we can go to vance. I you know. He he brings up a good point. I remember one time I was pretty much hung over in a sleep in the army and we got a drill like at two o'clock in the morning, and I get rushed and I'm standing in formation and I am uncomfortable as hell and realized I put my boxers on backwards. M I'll tell you, Okay, I
I never had that happen. Uh, let's let's get let's get Advance his view on this, and then maybe I'll tell you a story from my times. So, Vance, you ever had this circumstance where a naked woman wouldn't leave your house or anything like that to relate to this story? Is he talking to his mute button? No, I think I unmuted the wrong line. Hold on, yeah, I did. I unmuted the wrong line. Vance. I'm sorry. Here we go, Vance, Now I've got the
right line. Unmuted. You ever had a naked woman refused to leave your house? Vance? No, but I did pick up a naked woman that I should have left. Wait, naked naked hitchhiker? Wait a minute, are we talking naked hitchhiker in hin in hindsight? You know that was? You know? And I even I just it's similar, somewhat related. And just started dating this girl, and and so she was with some other guy before, and you know, i'd take her over there. She's going to
get some clothes and stuff, and at some point I see her. She comes out with no shirt on. She's walking down the side because there wasn't no place to park right where I let her out, So I was going to the end of the you know, you know, looking for a place to park whatever and anyway, and so I see her, like, and there's some people who she passed and she's like asking them for a shirt or whatever, you know, and uh, and I see this as I'm driving up, you know, this is what and you know, and then so
in my mind, I'm like, oh, ship, what the hell is this? You know? And and I really thought about just keep driving. I was like, I should just keep driving that but really went through my mind. But I'm a nice guy and whatever, So I wasn't going to leave her anyway. I pulled over. Let me get let me get this, yeah, let me get this right, you know, let me get this right before you get to five years later, because I'm I'm I got
a question here. She went to go pick up clothes. She was fully clothed, So you drop her off fully clothed to pick up clothing and she comes out half naked. Is that about right? Right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'd have kept driving. I definitely would have kept driving, because why are you getting half naked with the ex Yeah, I gotta go. I think you have unfinished business and apparently so I gotta go. Well, what was the story behind her? What did she expect to you?
He was he was trying to like keep her, you know, from leaving, or you know, didn't want her to leave or whatever, and like trying to keep her stuff or whatever. I don't know exactly, but she ended up going they you know, they wrestled, and you know, she ended up ripping her shirt off. Me however, I never don't know exactly, but then she went outside and picked up a rock and through it through his sliding glass doors, you know, his part. And I find this
out you know later, you know whatever. But but yeah, it was a bad move on my part. Uh, yeah, that's question. I would have asked more questions about how it is. I mean, in wrestling with him, he pulled off her shirt. Okay, she was a fighter. She liked to fight, so you know, she liked to fight. Okay, look, fighting and wrestling and all that, I understand. But what I don't understand is that, yeah, yeah, something something's not quite
kosher in Denmark. Wow, Okay, I didn't expect that one but that's pretty cool. So five years later, what were you saying about five years later? I'm sorry, I said that was you know, pretty you know, in the first week or so of our relationship or whatever, and you know, five years later it was a bad move. I should have just kept going, you know, but she was pretty hot anyway. I had motivations at the time that you know, I got you, I got you.
But one one does wonder what, you know, what went down in the you know, following five years that didn't get you to end this any sooner. Uh, you know, there must have been something worthwhile for five years there, half a decade. I mean, that's that's a while. That's usually as long as my marriages last. Yeah, good, I was. I still had my Jesus complex back then. So well, I gotta say the Jesus complex doesn't quite fit with the half naked woman coming out of
the ex's house and something is again not quite fitting your man. At the end of that show, there was something I saw in or that, you know, I thought I could you know, help her and all that, and it didn't work out. So you know, that's that's the way it goes. Lancelot. Okay, I got you. It's the it's the Lancelot complex of the I'm going to be the hero savior. Okay, So I think we put vants on hold, uh and let all of you ponder the story of what would you do if an X went to or not an ex?
If a woman you were with went to an ex's house to get closed and came out half dressed, would you have kept driving? I guess there's an interesting question to add. But meanwhile, I want to find out from Jimmy James from his zen perch if he's ever had any sort of experience like this, a naked woman that would refuse to leave his house or anything, or perhaps he would like to continue meditating on it, Jimmy James, when I want people in my house, they you thought, I have always complied.
Nothing exactly fits your scenario. That's my way. That's cool compliance. I like how you bring some compliance. I'm bad. Who's Richard Mall of Night Court bull Shanigan has died? He was eighty years old. Okay, So now I'm having a Mandela moment here because I could have swore Richard Mule died already some years ago. I don't know why anybody else be beat. I've had that thought too, Chuck, And yet here it popped up celebritybeeper
dot com. There he is. I'm gonna have to check that online see what's going on, because I swear to you I would if you would have asked me hour ago, you know, hey, do you think is Richard Mole still alive? Bull from Night Court? I would have said no. I would have thought I thought he died already. Anyway, BPTE, did you know Richard Mole was still alive? And in fact, did you know
he died today? I had heard that he had died years ago. I figured he was still alive or passed away and we didn't know anything about it. But yeah, I remember when the the fake claims were coming out. Oh everybody knew how tall he was, So that was a faith that's a fake claim in your mind from years ago that that I probably am remembering. There was a fake claim that he died, Okay, yeah, there was. I remember that when the fake claim came out, but then I never
heard anything about it. I figured eventually he just passed away and we just didn't see that the news. But yeah, eighty years old, he stood sixth eight. Yeah, he was as he was the same height as as one of my one of my mother's brothers, one of my uncles, six ' eight exactly. I knew that, but was not aware that he was still alive. And according to his IMDb as I look at it right now. And by the way, IMDb seems to instantaneously know when a celebrity dies
before even the news media or Twitter gets a hold of it. Most of the time, IMDb will reported and I have never seen IMDb accidentally list of death date that was inaccurate. They're usually ahead of the curve oddly, So I have Richard Mole's IMDb. I'm gonna put it in the Ocelli chat room. But according to this, indeed he did just die Bull from Night Court. That's interesting. And you had a celebrity piece of news too. Actually, why don't we keep Jimmy on the line and ask him about this other
piece of celebrity news that you were going to bring up. I was gonna bring it up. It's kind of it's really not much of a story. Let me go find it, wildline. While my computer is doing whatever it does, and right now it's not really doing any thing. Everything is kind of locked up. Well, fair enough, I'll give you a little lead up while you're waiting for things to load, because Goldie Hawn, incredibly to me, has always been one of the most attractive ladies in Hollywood pretty much
throughout the time that I have seen her on a screen anywhere. Oddly, you know, to me, it seems like with very little commentary when she had a lot of work done on her body. Because if you go back
to you know, here we go with mister skin type stuff. But if you go back to the movie Wildcats where she has a topless scene in a bathtub, you know, you're definitely seeing there was not a lot on the upper rack, just saying, and a couple of years later there was, so you know, there's that, and people have gotten into her daughter and all that, and she was definitely an interesting actress. You know, when I was younger, Private Benjamin was a big movie when I was a kid,
at nineteen eighty. I think, you know, she did that movie Death Becomes Her a couple of years later or something, I don't remember what year that was, but either way, yeah, but she was in it as well. And like I said, that movie Wildcats, I don't remember what year that was, but I know it was early on. It was a comedy where she takes over as a football coach, and I think they actually tried to reboot that movie somehow. But anyway, let's see just a
quick look up on that it says, yeah, nineteen eighty six. That makes sense because I would have been like fourteen and definitely happy to take a look at the bathtub scene with Goldie on because I always thought she was extremely attractive and maintains that almost no matter how she gets it looks like to me, he's been an attractive woman all the way through. But anyway, yeah,
go ahead, Yeah, I've got the story here. Claimed Goldie Hawn may have had a very close encounter with the Third kind, she claims, and the aliens once touched her. The actress and mother of Kate Hudson is known for appearing in the likes of Death Becomes her first Wives Club private Benjamin I recently appeared on Apple fitness audio Time to Walk. Not quite a podcast, Time to Walk features guest speakers talking about their lives and experiences. In
a recent episode saw Goldie talk about her extra terrestrial encounter. She claims that rather than being ambushed by the little green men, She had, in fact asked the aliens to visit her, and they did. The Star Now seventy seven revealed the incident happened in her twenties when she was living in California at
a time when there were a lot of UFO sightings. She says, I went outside my door and I sat on a little ledge, and I looked up at the dark sky, and I saw these stars, and all I can think of was are we the only planet in the whole wide universe that has life on it? She said. She called out to any aliens listening, saying, she knows we're not alone, and I would like to meet
you one day. Then just four months later, she was settling down for a nap in a friend's car while working as a dancer, and heard a high frequency in her ear. She claims she then saw three triangular shaped heads, silvery color, with a tiny little nose, no ears, and a slash for a mouth. The aliens were pointing at her, discussing her like she was a subject, and she says that she was unable to move, but the aliens touched her and it felt like the finger of God. And
my question is as she met God and did he touch her? Well, I got multiple questions, Yeah, I got multiple questions. First of all, what is God now eligible to be me too? Number one? Number two? Uh you know, yeah, I'm the same question. What does the finger of God feel like? And by the way, what was that finger doing? You know, just saying I put the accounts from the New York Post and Entertainment Weekly into the chatroom at o'chelli dot com. Fascinating.
Also, she was well known for a nat nause and played over and over kind of a movie called Overboard with Kirk Russell, which was again a comedy actress. Mainly she was for the most part. And I don't know what to say about this story. So how about we get Jimmy James comments about this that he ever heard about it before, and any thoughts on the finger of God touching Goldie Horn. Yes, I'm curious. For all of our
people on the phones, have any of them been fingered by God? There's another question, So we'll start with Jimmy James since he's on the line. I believe, uh, well, gold Gold hon of course, I remember, Oh, she was tops on that show where she's the Go Go Dancer Beta laughing laughing John Roland Martin's laughing, well was first as John Barber's mhm version, not like I don't think John Barber did laughing first. No, I don't think so, but I think he was involved in that. That's
the same time period of television, you know. But okay, wait, what what what was the real pat game show? Sorry? No, he list did a game show at that time. There wasn't at the call? Was it the Gong Show? I don't know, I'll check John's. That was Chuck Barris, Yeah, Chuck Barris, who claims c I A YESI by the way, but yeah, that's Tom Barber was the first post for the first season. I do believe. Well, I'll find out about game shows here while you're talking, but go ahead continue on. Oh yes,
the Goldie Hans situe. Uh, I don't know. What I got stuck in my head is the time? Who she was, who she was hanging around with? An mk old truth. That's when I think of when I hear goldiehn talk about three dudes of triangle heads. Let's see, okay, just really fast from what's what website? Is this? Sorry? From game shows fandom dot com. I didn't even know this website existed until just now. Barber is perhaps best known for creating and appearing in the hit nineteen seventies
TV show Real People. He also hosted the pilot for The Gong Show in the mid nineteen seventies, walking away from the show an objection to its farcical premise and forcing producer Chuck Paris to step in front of the cameras as host. Also, as a side note, just not from this website, but something oh it is on the website now I see it. He played a monthy Hall ripoff on a like a Let's make a Deal ripoff on Stanford and Son in looks like nineteen seventy five. So just saying there's his game show
experiences. As far as I know, he was the pilot cast of The Gong Show. So you're correct there. He wasn't on TV with it, just the pilot, all right. Well, well it was that he didn't realize that it was supposed to be kind of making front of the game show. He just wanted to host the game show. Yeah, and he's been on a couple of game shows. One of them famously was a Black and white thing with his wife that he did. By the way, he was
on a contestant on a game show once. Yeah, if you go to John, I gotta talk more about to be Han than experience and answer your question. BTE, No, I can't say that's ever happened to me. Cool, So you have not been fingered by God. But but go ahead, continue on. What about Goldie Hawn? Well, let's see that's about look out. Don't you think that with the people's shoes sing wrong over essage?
Ah sn? I just yeah, your view, your view, sorry, your view might be that this is a drug induced thing, maybe because she was in Hollywood at a good time to be getting good drugs. Is that about it? Well, but exactly that's what I said, you begin with this step seemed like an mk ultrist situation. Believe me, she would have gotten asked very easily at that time. Fair enough, So we'll put Jimmy James on hold, and uh, who should we go to next? Uh bp oh, Joe sill Us, We go to him, Joe.
So Goldie Hawn being fingered by God? Oh man, that just sounds like really good LSD to me. I mean, truly, that was the first thing I thought to you is that, Yeah, I know lots of people got on some psychedelic drugs and that God was talking to him or touching them or something. Okay, fair enough, So we're in the LSD category that wasn't mentioned in the story if you scan it right, BA, I mean, take a look down, uh, and I'll go to uh. I'll
go to another caller. Let's go back around to speed Kent and see what he's got to say about Goldie Hawn getting fingered by God? Is it just LSD? Or is there something more to it? Jordian is talking about opinion fingered by who? Byle Gibson or Kurt Russell. Come on, man, it's a story. Look, it's in the New York Post. It's out there. It's a thing that happened allegedly according to her man Kurt Russell or
Mel Gibson, which one was fingering? Well, but see, I don't think they don't qualify as God though, ken Come on, not anybody's mind. That's in her mind? Who knows? Okay, So we got another point of view here that perhaps she's conflating h Kirk Russell or or Mel Gibson as God in this scenario, Okay, fair enough, let's put you back on hold. And that's the wrong one. I did it again. Wow, okay, put you back on hold. And now if things will cooperate
here, let's get Advance's view on Goldie hon getting fingered by God. Advance, Hello, Hello, Goldie Hawn being fingered by God? Have you been listening to the story. What do you think? We got two votes for LSD and one vote for her. She's compleating Kirk Russell and Mel Gibson with God. What are your thoughts immediately when you heard the story, was you know, went with the de scenario. You know, it's like, you
know, she's in a wigged out. It kind of ties in with that old go over pile joke about she said, oh God, it feels like the hand of God or whatever he should Now, I'm not God. That ain't my finger either of Goldie. I don't know if you'll remember that pile joke. But anyway, nice, fair enough. So I'm taking a look to see if she's had work recently, uh, and and see if maybe
this is the reason she has not been invited to do any work. And maybe that's what the reason for this story being floated by Entertainment Weekly in the New York Post. Is So, let's just take a look. But anyway, did we get around everybody? Uh? Bepte on that. I think we did that. Harland never join us back. He has not joined us back yet. Let me take a look over here, just see if maybe I'm the liar because he did it in the last few seconds. But uh
no, Harlan has not rejoined anybody else could though? Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six. Your first question will be what do you think about Goldie Horn being angered by God? But other than that, you could bring up anything you want on the open mic for the next Let's see how much longer we got here about. Oh, we're almost at the end, but you could you could get something me in quick if you call in. How's that? Anyways? Yeah? So what else do we got
bepied? Anything else? I'm looking at her current word out situation. Yeah, I was going to say one little story here that hails from your home of heritage, Italy, and I found it quite interesting because it's a legal case. A mother's love does have its limited seems, at least for seventy five year old woman in the Northern Italian city of Pabia. Is that how you pronounce it? Pavia? Pabia? The one a court order? Go ahead? No, it sounds right, Pavia. It sounds right, but
go ahead Pavia. So what a court order? After suing to have her son's age forty and forty two removed from her house, described in court papers by their mothers, parasites had been living in the family apartment without contributing financially or helping around the house. According to the complaint filed by the woman, who has not been named in the Tribunal of Pavia or Pavilla District Court,
both men are employed. The court document state Judge Simona Caterby sided with the retired mother, who is separated from the men's father and whose pension went entirely on food and maintenance of the home, ruling that the two you have to bear with me here bamboccionies or big babies. Well, I'm sure how to pronounce that kind of a long one. There. They have until December eighteenth
to vacate the premises. According to Tuesday's court ruling, the judge wrote, there is no provision in the legislation which attributes to the adult child the unconditional right to remain in the home exclusively owned by the parents against their will and by virtue of the family bond alone. The men who hired lawyers to fight the maternal eviction. According to the local newspaper Provincia Provincia, Pavis argued that Italian parents are required by law to take care of their children as long as
necessary. Catterby, the judge cited the existing law in her ruling and agreed that the stay in the property could initially be considered well founded because the laws based on the maintenance obligation incumbent upon the parent. She then ruled that it no longer appears justifiable, considering the two defendants are subjects over forty and once a certain age has been exceeded, the child can no longer expect the parents
to continue the maintenance obligation beyond limits that are no longer reasonable. A lawyer for the men told local media that the men had not if they would appeal the court decision. This is not the first time mammoni, an Italian term used to describe adult men who are too dependent on their mothers, has crossed
up in the legal system. In twenty twenty, Italy Supreme Court ruled against a thirty five year old man who worked as a part time music teacher who still expected financial support from his parents, after he argued that he could not support himself on the annual salary of twenty euros, which at this time was
worth about twenty one thousand a year. Says. On average, Italians leave their parental home at the average age of thirty According to the Eurostat twenty twenty two data, Croatia is the highest in the European Union, with the average age of thirty three point four years. By contrast, offspring in Finland, Sweden and Denmark start life on their own at the average age of twenty one according to the same data. Well, anyway, this is a relatively new
term. Was a bembi oni is a big baby, and it's kind of like the plural is what you're looking for, a big baby. And it's a fairly new term that's being used for a large amount of adult children, mainly males that are staying at home and not leaving their parents' houses. And this phenomena has been growing in the past couple of decades, apparently in Italy. So I was just taking a look at it and I'm like, wait a minute, it sounds semi right. But I had to look at it
because the way you were saying it was driving me crazy. So I look at it and I'm like, yeah, okay, it makes sense. Now. What they basically do is they call them big babies in Italian and it's
because they're not willing to go out and live on their own. And it's a trend, especially in the I lived in Europe that you know, it was a common thing for people to live, you know, at home until their late twenties in Germany, Switzerland, only because it's so expensive to get out on your own if you're not and you don't have a big income. But if you look at Oriental families, a lot of Asian families, you know, the elder children will stay there well into their twenties thirties with it,
I mean, it is common thing. Forties. Pushing it a little, I think pushing it a lot. But here's the thing. Because of the economic circumstances, you're not getting much out of you a lot of your jobs, and Italy has not done financially well in the past few decades. But anyway, I think it's about time to close it out. So I think we should get around to everybody. Let's see who's on the line currently.
I think Advance is still on the open line, and we've got let's see, I don't think we got Harlan back, but we did get spent Kent and Jimmy James is still on the line as well as standing extra cos tonight regular Joe. So where should we go from here? Bpe, Well, let's go in reverse order. Well, i'd say reverse order. Let's go with spent Ken and then we'll go through the others. And I would really like to leave the These then inspired Jimmy James to give us our final
closing thoughts. Okay, fair enough, so we should go first with uh, with spen Kent then right, yeah, we'll start with We'll start with him, then we'll go to Vance, and we'll go to Joe, and then we'll go to Jimmy. Fair enough, So spend Kent your final thoughts for the whole week? Who is show? Et cetera. I was pretty sure I owe you to spend Kent. But let's see, looks like I'm on, I'm on, here we go, here we go. Ah. Oh, I'm glad to hang out with you guys tonight. It was fun.
It was good to hear from Vance and Jimmy, James and everybody else. Good time and uh, the only thing I leave y'all. I love y'all. Hopefully world War three doesn't come here in the next couple of weeks and we all can keep doing shows and hanging out. The Sunday Night Titans will be around either this Sunday or the next Sunday, but we'll you know, we'll keep in touch with you. Chuck appreciate it and post stuff and whatever you guys want to do. We're open for anything. So we're just
real, real mff orts, you know. There you go, Hey, have at it on that Sunday night show which will be on blog Talk Radio. And you can see a link at the o'chelli chat room which I provided there for the bottom of the feed. It's called and also in the next couple of weeks Night Titans bottom of the feed. We love you guys, We love everybody. There you go, man, I love back at you. In the next couple of weeks, so we will be off because b Pete and I are taking a road trip to Dallas, Texas, where I'll
be the MC at the Lancer Conference. Hopefully it'll sound like this, but yeah, so there you go. We're going to the Lancer Conference and also going to celebrate ten years Chelly Effects in Dallas, Texas. So hey, if you if you're somehow on your way over toward Texas, spend Kent stop buying this, dude. If I get a chance, I definitely would, man, no doubt, I'd make sure it would happen. There you go, So anyway, so do your thing, man, spend Kent. We'll
go ahead. Yeah, man, I just love everybody and we'll get going me and lead them off here spent one spent can't lead them out here. The Sun Night Titans with the bottom, we present to you the bottom of the feature, which is the grassroots of just craziness. Truth craziness. Man, you went the truth and you want it crazy, You want to right in your face. That's it man, And of course Chuck will be part of it and Bpe. Now all you guys as long as you guys want
to be you know, just we're all family. So there you go. One try That's what I talk about, and we'll be able to call in. We'll be able to call in over there. So spend Kent, you're gonna leave the building. Spent Kent is about to leave the building. You just announce it for me, all right, I'm out of here. There it is Spen Kent has left the building, which is what I was waiting for him to say, and I thought he was gonna But there we go. So there goes spend Kent. And I guess that brings us next to
Advance, right, b Pete, Yep, let's go to Dvance. Yeah, so let's put that on old God. Why am I having some trouble here? Okay, here we go now, I got dance up. I'm having trouble with my phone line. Sorry about that. It's me. I'm just a little out of it. Damned picking tooth anyway, go ahead, Vance, I'm sorry to taking me time. Good, just the same cinnamon.
I guess it's good talking to everybody, and nice to hear from Kent again and Jimmy and I guess, you know, I just hope everybody, you know, could wish for peace for everybody with all this stuff that's going on. You know, there's just you know, a lot of bad things going on, and just hoping to wish and pray for peace, and you know, let's let's let's start talking about peace instead of who's fault it is. You know, maybe maybe we can have some peace after that. I
would I would guess we'll talk to you. Yeah, absolutely, Vance, thank you so much for calling in. I would love to be talking about how peace broke out all over the world. That would be a great topic. And you know what we could do then is probably just play some music and talk more about cartoons and who fingered Goldie on. So there you go, regular Joe. Yeah, yeah, it's just always a pleasure to be
on a few folks. I tried to avoid people in my real life and I avoid people on the internet to what with no social media and everything. But you alls get people will always enjoy being on with you. And I guess I'll close up saying what I always say, keep your keep your circle small, and keep them close to you. Absolutely. And with that, b Pete, are we prepared for the zen? Jimmy James, what do you think? I don't know if we could handle it, but yeah,
I'm looking to be inspired. Okay, we are all turning to Jimmy James. I have not heard from your fan club, Jimmy in a while. I don't know what their status is, but they will probably have something to say considering your unusual orientation this evening, so we seek inspiration from the guru known as Jimmy James inspiration. Oh, I don't know about it. Jack. It's definitely see some terrible times. I didn't hear the beginning. I
assumed you guys must mentioned that Baggen's currently bombing Syria. No, I wasn't aware that he was bombing Syria yet. Is that brand new yesterday? No? Boy, all right, I had missed it. I got to look that up. Wow. Yeah, I heard something on the news and that the White House claims that it was not related to what was going on in Gods of Israel, totally unrelated to Israel were bombing Syria. Really okay? Sorry, sorry, go ahead, Jimmy. I apologize for even interrupting air,
but I had to go go ahead. Yeah, you're right. And then, as I said two weeks ago, watched Damascus. It is never fallen, It's never been destroyed. Hey, you can laugh. It's in the book of Revelations. Yeah, I tell you the Damascus will fall for the first time. Wow. Just call me a magic predictor man. Oh magic everyone knowed you know, go ahead, gouds Sorry, no, go ahead, No, I was just gonna repeat what you said, magic predictor man. And I'm looking up the stories right now, and I did not
realize what is going on. Us strikes two facilities linked to what they're claiming to be I Ran back militias in Syria. Wow, Okay, go ahead. Yeah. All I could say is watch Damascus and once Damascus goes down, we're gonna go down. The world will be destroyed. Wow or or maybe not either way? If living you see you guys next week, the boss, and oh good to hear from you in spect. Can ain't heard from me in a few months. Absolutely, thank you, Jimmy James.
Yes, and may your words go out there. Hopefully we are still here next week. That kind of craziness going on does make me a bit nervous when we're talking about striking in Syria now and it's actually happening. But they're going to claim that different strikes will happen in different sovereign nations. I'm sure to eliminate different I Ran backed militias in quotes. I'm sure that's going to keep happening and then there'll be denials and welcome, Welcome to nineteen eighty four.
The news speak thing is happening. Yikes me, Pete, go ahead your Europe. Not much insiration well, having another week to chat. I like to thank Jimmy and Vance and Joe and spent Kent and of course you Chuck for being able to have another week to sit around and slap our gums and discuss the topics of the week and looking forward to doing it next week. Definitely looking forward to the road trip to Dallas. Everybody go to Ohelly dot com, hit the donate button, help up Chuck make his way there.
It's going to be an adventure. But other than that, we'll just try to save up some energy for next week. Hopefully next week won't be as hectic workwise, and I can put a little more time to think about some things and bring up some other topics right well, and that I appreciate you. I appreciate the chance to be a part of it, and we'll see you next week. There you go, And a big thanks also to Harlan who called in earlier, and regular regular Joe for stepping in as well,
because I needed somebody to talk a bit. I'm not in the much of a mood for talking. And I'll buy some soft food on the trip to Dallas for us because well, actually my gums will probably feel better by then with any luck. But either way, let's keep it all together. Let us also remember that it's always good to ask the universe for peace, but it's much better to find a way to accomplish it amongst ourselves. Because
all charity and goodwill begins at home. The Ocelli effect is done, and no matter who you are, where you are, when you are, once you remember I'm merely Ocelli, and all of you are indeed the effect