The Ochelli Effect 10-18--2024 Open Mic with B Pete

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October eighteen, twenty twenty four. Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, this the Ocelli effect, you hearing us. If you're hearing us just after eight pm Eastern, it's about six minutes past the hour of eight pm Eastern here in the United States on that date, eighteenth of October,

I will.

Otherwise I don't know, I'll spit something out. And like I said, I'm trying to schedule Robert Grodin for Wednesday. I'm looking to see if Larry Hancock will either take the Thursday because Swanson won't be around, or he'll take Tuesday maybe, and trying to reschedule. Anyhow, I was gonna do a double shot on Wednesday this past week, but I couldn't even keep my head out out of the

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Maybe you pay all those you know, premiums, so you get commercial free access to everything. I don't know. I can't afford that. Maybe you do. If you do, let me know. Let me know if if you've accidentally caught a commercial because you have to be out somewhere and somebody had God help you radio on or something, or maybe somebody turned on one of those old devices called a television somewhere and you just went, wow, that's commercial.

Well, first off, it's been a beautiful week. I've been waiting for weather like this for all summer long. Wed some beautiful fall weather here. Come down to what thirty four this morning? So that was kind of a surprise going back up for another week. Yeah, it was chilly, and I wasn't quite used to it final had it cut the heat on. I didn't want to do that this early. But it is what it is now. I

I guess.

You know, we'll not just go to hit around, We'll throw in Mussolini in there too. It's crazy, but it's twenty four to seven. It's wall to wall. I noticed today and this is one reason I'm going to be soon getting rid of my personal Facebook page. I went to notifications, I got a notification as somebody replied to something, and I pull up that page on my phone and Netta has managed to stick ads every third entry into that page. It's like, you can't even go to your

They don't give you an option. They don't give you an option either, do they to like get rid of the ads?

Right?

Meta doesn't even give you like can't.

Get no, you cannot you can you can make you can go to your settings and affect what kind of ads you see. If you want to see ads for personal products or luxury items or this or that, you can set these filters and all, but you're still going to get the ads.

Ain't nothing to do.

But the only service you mentioned, you know, paying premium to avoid commercials. The only thing that I pay for is premium YouTube. I don't have to deal with commercials there. But other than that, I mean, it's twenty four to seven every time you turn your head, and it's it's the political I've gotten to where now I will get up in the morning, cut the TV news on, and I'll cut the volume down and put the closed Captain on so I don't have to listen to these damn commercials.

Well, that's the funniest part of it.

We don't have a section in the middle. Yeah, for the people in the middle.

That's the funniest part of it. The majority of people in general, right, really don't stand on the extremes. They just don't. But if you got JP Satillity's newsmandal, right, you go to the Rundown today, you can see where one of the major culture wars is erupting, okay, and where everybody's very focused on this. It's about, you know, masculinity and what's going on there, okay, and just reading the headlines real fast. How Americans see men in masculinity

Right there. Wait, let's take a pause. Let's take a pause. Right there, Let's look at culture, and let's look at the feminist movement coming out of the sixties into the seventies and the eighties and the Equal Rights Amendment, everything that was going on back then. Yeah, you know, that was a time where, yes, there stereotypes attached to being men and women. We didn't have the trans issue then because it was either in the closet or so small and insignificant that it wasn't an issue.

It was tiny.

It was even in the gay community. These these premises of male and female were pretty much.

Not to thought.

Well, let's say they had easily recognizable borders to them. Well, seminism wanted to move up, and feminists found out a long time ago that the only way that they're going to pull themselves up the ladder is to pull men down the ladder. Apparently they couldn't climb the ladder beside the men. They had to pull the men down that. No, wait, it's our time. It's you know, it's the year of the woman, for the decade of the women. And we saw how that turned out. So women eventually wanted to.

See. And this is the point at which I'm sure backing out. You know why, because you're talking about a small percentage even this whole well, you know, there's men competing and they were transgender, and you know what, it's still a small It's not the the effectively, the massive, the majority of males, okay, are affected. Not in this way. This is not what's affecting us. This is the talking point. How are we being affected? I gotta tell you, yeah.

It is affecting us because we have to listen to the discussion about it every single day.

But that's what it is. It's just a discussion. What's really affecting your life is not this. This isn't it. This is not you know even so what sports? I don't even care, you know what it really seriously, what really affects me is the fact that I'm watching a new generation of males come up that have no concept, no connection to anything that I understood as being male. They're not connected to it.

We're taught about being a male is bad.

But that's the thing, is that it's this negative that has a greater broader impact than any of the sports crap than any of these transgender athletes.

I'm not saying, wait a minute, I'm not saying the main problem is we've got guys that want to play volleyball as girls. It's what led to that. It's this, this this cultural rod where you have that. You're saying, Okay, that doesn't affect you, the guy playing volleyball on the girls team, but it's the thinking behind that that affects so much more of your life. You know, it used to. I don't know, maybe it went away when suddenly rules

Now, both things, no matter how you want to couch it, it's gone anyway. Okay, this is a corporatocracy, which gives the biggest power to the biggest buck. It's that simple. But back to this other thing. Before the rise of the transgenderism, Okay, this was already happening. They were undermining, they were totally destroying any of the social contract that was there that gave clear definition to male and female,

Whoa back up, you just made a comment that caught me very much by surprise. Are you saying that it's because men at one time were responsible for more violence than women?

Yeah, we were.

I don't think we were, okay. I think studies have shown that across the board domestic, especially when you're looking at domestic violence situations, women initiate violence in some studies a little bit more than men, or just as often as men. And that's been one big misconception that we've used to decide policy and direct discussions and direct the well to influence the direction that we want our society to take because of the myth that you know, men

Okay, that's in domestic violence situations. But I mean, honestly, you know, when it comes to serial killers, when it comes to you know, the people that commit most of the mass violent acts and things, you're telling me that women had had a bigger history of that. I don't know.

I've never really looked at the total number of women serial killers throughout history.

And there haven't been that many. That's the thing.

Well, there are some, though, let's not discount that.

No, I wouldn't say there was none. I mean, you know, like it was that Eileen Warnos was one, there was a couple. You know, look, there's been a few, and there's been a couple of partnerships. But violence.

Are you talking about going to war?

No, not going to war.

Go to war more often than men when you look at the governments involved in the number of females involved in the governments that make the decisions to me say yeah, we're going to declare war and support it. So yeah, maybe they are as violent as men. No.

Look, I'm not saying that our armies are not a fair thing to look at because in a lot of places women weren't even serving in militaries. And about I'm talking about.

Massive domestic violence and if it's not societal violence or crime, women commit just as much crime as men.

Well, now, now I don't know about that, because we we got way less convictions for sure. Okay, you got way less prison space being a lot of the women in the United States where most of the prisoners are okay, and in other countries you see prisons. There aren't many women.

Where you hear of a couple, but usually when you hear of a couple getting caught for the same crime, nine times out of ten, the woman is if she gets anything out of it at all, it's reduced compared to what the guy gets because the guy is the perpetrator, the guys the mastermind. It wasn't for the guys, she never would have done it. Too many times in court.

Well, look, we could sit, we can sit and argue about that. But what I'm saying is if you look at rates of conviction, you look at imprisonment, you look at stuff like that, I mean, it's a there's a clear divide between the sexes.

But anyway, I'll branch to the point that men are more violent. How does that change?

But it doesn't. That's the thing.

How that affecting what's going on now in that we're having to put up with every day, every day.

See, it doesn't. That's the thing. That's my point actually is that Look, what you needed to do is correct the situations that bring this about masculinity that was bringing about the violence. Okay, it was there was a whole other group of circumstances that come together to create these things. Okay, And it's not about just you know, uh, the the the person's gender that is that's the problem. There is a gender divide, that's the result, but it's not the basis for it.

But until we hear the term on a regular basis in media, like we do toxic masculinity, when we start hearing toxic femininity, then I'm ready for a discussion because until you're willing to address that, it doesn't matter what you do.

Now, I'm with you. Look, it's all about it, but it's it's about toxicity. Forget about the gender. See there's the thing, okay, and that's the problem. But since this was pointed at men, right, it was like, well, men need to become more sensitive, they need to become more empathetic, they need to and so on and so forth.

And feminine.

That was what they were reaching for.

No, No, that was the whole argument that started back in the eighties.

Men need to do That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying.

That is exactly what I'm saying. That's what the this is before. Look back when that was going on, right, you know, men are from Mars, women are from Venus, blah blah blah, all that crap. Back when that was going on, the transgender thing was a freak show. It was something that you had on. You know, Sally, Jesse Rafael were amazed because here's a dude that had an operation done to turn into a woman. Right, it was like a freak show. It wasn't even like, you know,

You know.

That's I don't know, I'm on the fence on that because I look at this whole Herd Weinstein thing that went on and how a whole industry knew what was going on behind the doors, and when it finally became published, they're all sitting there going, oh, you know, it's it's a shame, you know, it's terrible that it came to this. And I'm sitting there thinking, you people have no reason to open your mouths. You knew this was going on.

Believe it or not, you and I are aligning very well. It's just at my point is that this problem predates any of this transgender sports all. It's well before that.

That's the most recent manifestation of the of the of the mental demise of people involved in making decisions that affect everybody else. It comes from government, and it comes from institutions, and it comes from colleges, and it comes from organizations, and it comes from businesses. That's the problem.

And really the crazy damage being done is just like what you see on like you know, like a TV show like South Park Today, where it's like, oh good, I'm so glad we have gay kids in town. Now, you know, they're nine years old. I'm glad they're gay, you know what I mean. It's like why because, oh, I know why, because they can't be as masculine if they're gay. See, this is all good. Males are supposed to be gay. Oh and by the way, females are supposed to be gay. Everything's supposed to be gay. Now

But that's just it. Though. They were claiming to get in touch with your feminine side. But if you use the standard of the time to determine whether something was masculine or feminine, you were wrong. So how do you get in touch with your feminine side when what I think is my feminine side? Oh no, that's just a bunch of stereotypes that you've got in your head. Yes, this is somebody defined to me what the feminine side is, what feminine attributes that I'm supposed to get in touch with.

What we've ended up with here is a bunch of, as I said, neutered males, which is not the same as feminized males. These are not even feminized males. This is a ridiculous other thing that has happened here. Okay, So even if the goal was, you know, get in touch with your feminine side, it's a failure. It's a complete failure, because this is now warping into something else, and that's all it is now. You know, the these these guys that I see now, these young guys, they're

Another reason where Soyboy came from.

Yeah, well, but that's it. That's all we got now is soy boys. You know what I'm saying. I mean, that's all there is now. Where do you see like really recognizable to the to the boys that you saw, you know, growing up. They hardly exist anywhere? And then it's like the only place they might exist they try

I'm in.

I'm in the culture board discussion anyway. No matter what I try to do, so here.

It is, I don't understand the culture war. You know, maybe I'm too old, or maybe I'm old enough that I remember a time where culture was something that you thought connected to a country. You know, the all of the Asian countries had their own culture, even though they were all Asian. You had the Chinese, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Filipinos, the time on ease the tie. You have all these cultures that you know, learned from each other over time. So that's what I associate culture to be.

Well, we didn't really have one to begin with, because it was constantly going through revision, okay, And that was the beauty of it. That was the great part of it. Is every time something else got added in, you got something new. You got something new to your food, you got something new to your entertainment, you got something new. That's the thing that was the great part of it.

Sit down and shut their silly mouth. Some of the stuff that I've heard. I listen. I go on YouTube, and yeah, I look at my k pok videos. Okay, that see, I'm trying to get another little bit of culture. I'm trying to get culturated. But I go and I look at these debates Douglas Murray and an other individuals, Jordan Peterson, and these debates where people are actually sitting

I mean how, I don't know. Yeah, see, I don't know either. That's where I'm at. But look, let's get to the callers. I know, we got Jimmy James waiting on the line, so I'm going to bring him on and let him speak his mind in any any direction he wants to go, because I'm fed up with this. I mean I really am. And like I said, I understand why Swanson is just throwing up his hands and saying, you know what, I don't even want to talk. I

Wall.

I'm on the air here and hopefully Bob Groden will be on on Wednesday. I have no idea what Thursday is going to be, So Thursday, if you guys want to give me a suggestion per show or Monday one or the other, I'll do a Monday show or a Thursday show and we'll fill out the whole week next week if I can keep the vomiting under control. Jimmy James, you're live, man, what's on your mind this week?

Oh? This sweek's terrible. I mean whatever, the opposite of awesome is, That's what this week was.

Oh no, wait, what happened in baseball? Jimmy, I know the Mets got pounded the other night. Jesus, that was rough.

Your Mets are gone?

So did they did they give did they give up the ghost? Now?

Yeah?

They bombed out? Yeah?

Man. You know what, I didn't even want to watch it yesterday because I saw that eight eight to nothing or whatever. It was like, oh my god. I watched that game and I was just like, yeah, this is where the Mets are going this year. Good thing. Nobody expecting anything big out of them this year because they ain't gonna deliver. But I was really hoping for a Subway series and god, you know, if anybody hears my prayers, no Yankees please, just as long as they lose, it's

But who's still in it? Is the.

What's that?

Who's the Who are the Yankees playing? Is it the oh the Guardian?

No?

Yeah, the Guardians?

No, I don't know. Let me let me look it up. Anyway, Jimmy, what is good?

I'm looking for a bracket.

But wait, the Mets haven't given it up yet. No, they haven't given it up yet. Let's see, or Jimmy, though they got well, let's see, they got seven all together. So they're going to Game.

Six, lew Yeah, three to two, the Dodgers leads, so they got one more at least unless they win to in a row, in which case they got it.

But either way, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop it.

The next game is what's today to eighteen?

Yeah, so the next one is on the twenty, Yeah, on Sunday. That's what I'm looking at right here. Let's see what else we got here? The Yankees and the Guardians. Yeah, that's the Yankees and the audience formerly the Cleveland Indians. Right and right now, there's a Yankees lead that series two to one. All right, so that's not nearly over yet.

I never understood I never understood why they had to change their name from the Indians.

Well, Chief Wahoo was looking kind of goofy. I mean, you know, I can see how you can feel a little insulted by this mascot.

You gotta have something goofy. I mean, think about it. What the what's the one in Philly, the Philly the fanatic fanatic?

Yeah?

Or the San Diego Chicken. I mean, you gotta's nothing wrong with Chief Wahoo looking silly.

Yeah, but see, it's different if it's a mascot or if it's their logo. You know what I mean. I don't know. You know, it's sort of like the Washington Redskins. What are they now? They're the Commanders, No, the guard Wait, they're the commanders, right, Yeah.

That's the family of the gentleman who was the supposedly the model for the logo for the Redskins is asking them to rename themselves the Redskins.

Well, so of all the Indian tribes, they said, we never asked you to change it. A bunch of weird white women did.

Yeah. I believe it. That's the way things get done. But yeah, so right now, let's see game three. Okay, so final yesterday Game three two.

At Chief Wow, who was based on a player from one hundred years ago who wasn't even Indian. That's what they're funny about it.

That figures.

Well, there you go. There's another aspect of the PC World invading our sports.

Well, that's the thing. No one remembers the history. How can you. They're tearing down statues, rewriting dictionaries, changing the meaning of words. Why I'm in a bad mood now, Chuck, you might as well get the next caller on.

I don't want to do that yet. Wait. Let's let's see if we can help you. Okay, let's see if we can help you, Jimmy James.

We don't get Jimmy in a bad mood too often, let's say exactly.

Usually I get you, you know, usually I help you move, Jimmy. I don't want to send you off like this. This is no good. Come on now, look it, don't be mad at this stuff, all right? Who are you rooting for?

One's got you bummed out?

You know?

Does it matter if they're called the commanders? Does it really matter to you? Seriously? Yeah?

Because it's like associate certain things with certain Yeah.

I just.

I hope.

I hope Trump gets back, and I hope the first thing he does is sign ninety executive orders. I hope Fort Hood goes back to being Fort Hood. I hope Fort Bragg goes back to beting Fort Bragg etc. Quit monking with the names in history. It just blokes me.

I tried getting the Fort Bragg road sign where our job ends up is about seven miles from downtown Fable and where two ninety five turns off. You know, they had to come through and change the highway signs to say Fort Liberty and an arrow point in that way. So when they were down there slapping them out, I was trying to get a hold of one of the old Fort Bragg signs, but no, they were guarding those things. Now we trying to let those out of our sort they become valuable.

Yeah, I bet they are so. Jimmy, tell people why why it's important for Fort Bragg to be named Fort Bragg again?

Because it always has been named that, and just because it was named for a guy that ended up joining the Confedracy. Well, people at the time who actually fought and the thing didn't have didn't want to change the name. That's why these pukes today, one hundred and sixty seventy years later whining about it. What's it to them?

Look, I hear you on that. I hear you on that. But I'll tell you here's the question I have. Right Eventually, everything's name changes, you know what I'm saying, Eventually you change names. They renamed stuff to honor somebody, They renamed something to honor something about an area. You know what I mean? How many times have you seen, like, you know, how many how many JFK things have been named because

Yeah?

Good?

But that's the thing.

Do you remember all these things named for JFK? Already those things are starting to go away. Well, things that were named for JFK. Not they're named for that Floyd jerk.

Stupid what they name stuff for George Floyd. I haven't really seen that they're renaming stuff to George Floyd.

Oh you better believe it.

Look at that Minneapolis or wherever he got himself killed in full of junk for that fool.

All right, Well, look, you know what if the people in Minneapolis are okay with it, you know what I'm saying, if they voted on it, and I say, why not? You know what I mean, if they want to name it, you know, Jim Jones, I don't give a crap. If they're happy with it locally, and then fine, you know what I'm saying. Like, but these things always change names, everything does, you know, nothing lasts forever.

No, But there's a difference between deciding to change the name on an institution that's been around it a while or the reason that these were changed. Oh, we can't be associate, we can't have anything associated with that individual, even though he did serve in the United States Army. Yeah, he joined the Confederate Army, okay? Or you know, are we trying to completely erase the fact that there was a Confederacy at a certain time, because changing the names

So what.

And what is the difference. But you've got these individuals that want to just bitch and complain about anything and think that they're making progress in changing something from Fort Bragg to Fort Liberty.

Well, Fort Liberty is an empty, empty thing. You know what I mean, if they were to name it after a different general and say, you know, even if you wanted to name it after LeMay or something, because he did do some things that although they were extremely savage, they were extremely effective, Right, I would say, you know what, it makes sense, you know what I mean, He's partially responsible for victory in World War two, le May and

I yeah, but I don't know. We went through that here over all these small towns that had a Confederate statue up naming the Confederate War dead, right, Yeah, you know, this stuff was torn down. They'd go through all this hassle. You know, it's it's it's people were actually, you know, causing physical violence over things like this, over a statue that just honored some guys who fought for at the time, their country, you know, and okay, that was a sub

I get that part, but I also get that a lot of those statues were put up at a time when people were trying to push a certain political idealism, and they were putting it out there to make a point. And it wasn't about honoring the war dead. It wasn't about honoring Americans who maybe had you know.

Honoring the war dead. The daughters of the Confederacy are the ones that funded these things. And then a lot of times, at one time they were put up on private properties, not public properties, and over time became public properties. They paid to put them up. Okay, fine, they were allowed to put them up. What difference does it make what time of the year it was or what it was the early nineteen hundreds and you know, segregation and

Because listen, if the people in that area, though, don't want it there. Like I said, I think it should be based on the will of the people that have to live with it. You know, if the people in that area forget about.

It outside that well, even if it was the will of the people, even if it was the will of fifty one percent of the people, too damn bad.

Well, but there you go. Look, if you got a majority of people in an area who don't want this thing there anymore, and it's on public property, I would say, what's what's the big issue? You know what I mean? Things will come, things will go. I mean, and they're going to put up ridiculous things that that.

I don't care.

I don't care for fd R. I don't like them being on the dimes.

I don't like them either. Well, it looks we we We've had other people on our dimes, haven't we. There's been other dimes besides the fr Lady Liberty was on the dime.

Let's go back to our pagan I mean, our well they would be yeah.

They are pagan representations of ancient goddesses. But yeah, but whatever. See that's the thing. To me, It hardly matters. I'm more concerned about the fact that that that dime is no longer made out of silver. You know what I mean, it doesn't actually have any monetary value. It's it's worth less than a die.

Maybe for parts that I've got and I'm hoping one of you can. And this is this is a totally different subject, but it was something that that Chuck brought up in his introductory ramp pitcoin. Yeah, where is the value in bitcoin? Now? It's my understanding. These things were invented and put out there and people mind them, But where is the value behind them? What makes a bitcoin worth seventy thousand dollars?

It's scarcity, there's a limited Yeah.

There's wait wait, I mean scarcly. Okay, wait, wait a minute more.

It could be.

It's a giant block and once you mind it, you're getting a piece of that block. Eventually it's going to be completely empty.

Rights, it's a limited resource that eventually understand that.

But it's just a bunch of digital data, correct, Yep, that's all it is, pretty much all right? So what where's the value in it? What? What makes it worth me? Trading a bitcoin for a new F one fifty fully loaded with leather and vibrating seats.

Well, see, here's the thing. What is the intrinsic value of anything except what the actual value that's agreed upon? Right?

Uh?

Even even the US dollar, what is its value except for what we agree it's worth.

All right, But let's say I corner the market and I get all the bitcoin? What have I got? I got a block of digital data that's not going to buy me squat.

Well, you can't corner the market because there is literally a million bitcoin that nobody can get. Okay, there's that? What's that? Because it's actually sitting Yeah, there's literally a million bitcoin that nobody can get. It's sitting in a digital wallet that's been locked off since it was invented. Number one.

If somebody finds a way to hack that wallet, they can get it and they.

Yeah, that wallet a wallet, and he can't get into it, and if he could, he'd be like a billionaire. Now he's pretty upset.

How would he be a billionaire? Though? Where who's gonna Who's going to give him a billion dollars for this little block of a million bits of data? The million nothing more than zeros and ones? Where's the That's what I'm saying.

The million bit coins right now?

Done? Yeah, well, if if it's out there at the market can be cornered. Look, I, once you corner the market, what have you got? You've got nothing? So I don't understand. How is their value behind it?

Well again, how is their value behind anything? But there is all right. There's an interesting documentary I was watching earlier today on this This is why I brought it up anyway, and it's about the guy who allegedly invented it, who has now disappeared, by the way, it's a Toshi or whatever his name is Japanese name, I can't remember

How could he be a traded everyone?

Because these things are worth well yeah, yeah.

Anything.

But there you go. Why is a piece of why is a paper dollar?

And a time before the Biden administration, there was never not even one billion dollars of currency in circulation. Yeah, Now Biden doubled the amount of currency in circulation and that's why it seems like everything costs twice as much, because twice as much cash chasing exact less goods, not even the same goods.

That's the difference. Though, How is it if I walk into the store with ten dollars cash, I can buy ten dollars worth of goods no matter where the store is, as long as they accept us dollars now, and I'm not getting it behind the hole we went off the gold standard crap and all that. I got ten bucks in my pocket, I can go buy ten dollars worth of goods. I have ten dollars worth of bitcoin. How am I going to buy something with it?

Well, if a place, what am I giving you?

I'm giving you some bits, yep, some data, bits that are transferring over. But value wise, there's nothing. It's not accepted everywhere. Some people don't even know it exists. What gives it the value? Now? If this guy says, okay, I'll give you what's the equivalent of ten dollars of apples for your ten dollars a bitcoin? Okay, it gives me the apples. I send him the data. What's he going to do with that data? He's going to find

He's going to.

Give you something that's worth one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I'm going to give you something that's worth three hundred thousand dollars. Hey, what are you going to give me? I'm gonna give you three hundred thousand dollars cash.

Yeah, But that's like the majority of exchange be beat because most people don't even.

Like, can't my goods for those bits of mount It.

Just got trouble. That's what you was doing. Eh, you go to that asset, that treatment guy, and he's got like an exchange and other people got the States exactly.

But these guys are playing on a market with real money buying little bits of data that are worthless. I don't get it.

And there's like no regulation. There's no regulation that I know of in the United States?

Is there no?

That's the thing with bitcoin, there is none. But of course the US is looking at now maybe introducing their own digital currency right where it's just exclusively digital.

Huh okay, well, all right, when bitcoin was started? How many bits are there in existence? How many were created in that big block? And you're talking about Jimmy, I don't know. I'm not into that stuff.

Hey, I'm not deep into it either. Billion. It might be just it might be like ten million. Let's just say there's ten million.

All right, ten million? All right, there's ten million chunks out there.

That's ten million coins.

Is what is worth? What seventy thousand for a bit coin?

For one coin? Yeah?

Okay, okay, I want seventy thousand dollars for this one bitcoin I've got. Where do I go to get that seventy thousand dollars?

You can go to it worth that.

You can go to an exchange, okay, and the exchange is going to give me seventy thousand dollars and I'm going to give them my one little piece of a little chunk of.

Data, yeah, minus their fee or whatever. But yeah, that's how it works. But it's just like if you want to buy something from overseas and you got to give dollars and they only take euro.

Dollars coming from But where's the seventy thousand dollars coming?

But where does it come from? Anyway? Okay, you want to buy something from England, right, and you got to use euros or you got to use you know, great British pound, right, and you don't have that, you have dollars, so you make a PayPal exchange. Look, I'm going to pay you. What's that.

There's a conversion factor, right.

And they charge you for that conversion. And that's what these people are doing. Same thing except one thing. There's no central bank. It's just the blockchain.

No, no, no, no, no, Well.

I'm telling you that.

I said, no, you're paying for a conversion. But like when I was in Switzerland, I could go over there and get my ATM and take out a certain amount of money and it would pay me in Swiss frames. There was no charge for a conversion. Okay, it was worth a certain amount in Swiss frames or euros however I wanted to get it. So there is a conversion factor there. But that is a monetary system and a

Yeah, there is. That's the thing. It's not there. There is no standardized thing. It's just the exchanges that make it possible based on the value. You see. It's just like when you bring an ounce of silver, I.

Have an exchanged. Wait a minute, I have an exchange. Yeah, and I've got and we said, oh, okay, there's ten million bitcoins out there. All right, I've got nine million, nine hundred nine to nine thousand and nine a nine bitcoins. There's one dollar worth of bitcoin left out there, one out of ten million. Okay, and I get it. Now, who's going to give me ten million or whatever? The value is seventy thousand dollars times ten million, who's going to give you that?

Well, that's that's the other thing about it. Then, if you actually cornered it worthless, So yeah, if you cornered it like that, it would become worthless. You're right, it would become exactly worthless. But then again, if you owned all of the dollars that were in existence, right, and there were no dollars in existence, and you had all the physical money, that would also become worthless.

It's only because I I turn it into several other different currencies at the same time. They keep it in circulation. Bitcoins aren't circulated.

Yeah, but see it's it's more complex than this. They are circulated. They are spread out all over place, and every ten minutes.

I just don't understand people that are killing themselves to find a piece of data that's actually worth nothing. The data is not even there. It's just ones and zeros passing through the internet.

Well, it's a little more complex than that. There is only it's not endless. You could just create it out of nothing. You have to be able to find it. It's not mining. This stuff is not as simple as they try and make it sound. But anyway, look, I'm not an expert on this. I can't adequately explain this.

Yeah, well, when I go mining, let's see, I've got my super bank and computers looked up. I've made a deal with Duke Power to get my power loaded down at two hundred thousand volts to my own step down transformer, so I can run my mining operation. Where am I mining? What is it that I'm mining? Where am I going to look for these bitcoints?

Where you're mining Internet data.

Okay, so it's hidden in all the data that's on the internet somewhere apparently. Okay, so we're talking about a couple ones and zeros which make a bitcoin mm hm.

But they're very specific. It's not just you know, ones and zeros randomly.

I understand that. I mean, it's it's a thing making this coin that's out there stuck somewhere. Okay, right once, I'm you know, there's I don't understand the value behind it to make people want to go out there. Okay, it's a novel, big thing. Oh, I've got fifty thousand bitcoins. Oh great? How much did it cost you to get them? Just in the cost of electricity and everything else to be able to find these things? Yeah, oh I got

Okay, But here's the thing. Theoretically, you could acquire a whole bunch of a country's currency in a bank account, you got tons of it, and then that currency collapses, it's now worthless. It can happen, Yeah, and it happens. So what I'm saying is that theoretically, it seems like it's not that much different than anything else, except you don't have an institution that's trying to back it up. That's the difference. Other than that, I gotta tell you, I got a hard time under This is why I

You know.

Look, if I can't take it down to a store literally physically and just you know, exchange it for goods immediately, I don't want it. I mean seriously. So that's me. But look, other people have different views on this, and apparently they do, because otherwise why would it be worth what did you say, seventy thousand now for one coin?

I don't know what is a bitcoin worth? Let me look it up.

I don't know. But like I said, I was watching the documentary on it earlier, and it was just amazing to me how this stuff got created in the first place. But yeah, let's see what is bitcoin worth today. I'm gonna take a look myself while I'm talking to you here. Holy crap. Really, it looks to me like sixty eight thousand, three hundred and sixty nine dollars. That's one coin. Now, most people that you know, anybody I've ever known, never

Would, well, you'd have money until you go to turn it in and try to get money for it, and then you're gonna find out the value is a lot different depending on how much the guy that's paying you for it has.

Well, most of the time people have been able to exchange it for decent amounts. And you remember that whole Silk Road thing that went on with the whole you know, the drugs on the internet and everything. You remember that tons of transactions were made there through bitcoin, so people got value directly. They got heroin and everything, and we mailed to them from all over the world.

Yeah, but what did the guy do with the bitcoin on the other end, Hey, I don't know. It's a blow. And he's got these fancy little digital coins. I guess he can do what with Well.

But that's the thing is if you take in digital anything, then you got to turn it over for something else later for value again. I mean it's if you have a bank account again, like I said, loaded with any kind of currency, and that currency changes value on you, and then it does you lose money overnight? You know, if you got eight million if.

They're staying that. But we're talking about currencies. Bitcoin is a Bitcoin is not a currency. Bitcoin is guys out there playing it's I guess it's the ultimate video game is to find your big coin.

Well that's the way I see it. But I get corrected.

Find something, go, don't find somebody's gonna pay you money for something that you have all of.

But see b Pete again, Why is silver worth anything? Right? Because it's what people agree to give you for it. Right, Spy price on silver right now? Like thirty dollars an ounce, right, but well, you know in a month it could be twenty dollars and then the same silver you have in your hand right now could be worth less in a month, or it could be worth more. Right.

Oh, I know. I went through this whole argument with my ex girlfriend when I was over in Switzerland, you know, when things were starting to look bad.

I'm not arguing. I'm just trying to answer you and all that. Yeah, I mean, I'm not arguing.

But I mean that was for comment. She says, well, you know I'm gonna go out and buy silver. I said, okay, when the balloon goes up and you know, shit hits the fan, what are you gonna do? Well, I'll have silver I can barter with. I said, okay, you're gonna have silver. So you're gonna have this nice little case with all your silver in it. You're gonna go around, you want to buy a loaf of bread, and the

Well, so I was asking her.

You know, you're you're thinking that this is gonna save you in apocalyptic times. How well in that case whatever.

Yeah, But in that case where you got no law and you and nobody cares and everybody's just robbing each other, I mean, what what good you know, it's like in a zombie apocalypse? What good is you know, a billion dollars worth of cash going to do you nothing? You know what I'm saying, unless somebody's still going to take the.

Money, right, you'd be better off learning how to grow weeds, harvest weak yep, process weak yep, make flour, make your own bread.

Yeah, because then you would have something that has a direct tangible value. True growing vegetables will be worth a lot more. You know, right?

What is deny in?

Uh? What was it? The guy in the movie The Big Short said that the future was in scenes. You can get yourself some good scenes.

Well, in a way, that's true, isn't it. You can always grow something tangible out of that seat, anything you got on a market, on a computer in a digital form or whatever. Look at the computers can all go down tomorrow one solar flare does it? Boom? Well gone? Now what whatever cash you got, that's it stuff? Yeah, but you know if all your aluminum foil covered stuff

That's what I'm saying. That said is how this whole bitcoin thing sounds to me. I do not understand the value behind.

But that's what I'm But that's what I'm getting at here. Is that really honestly, if you think about it, anything can collapse, disappear, and drop to nothing overnight, depending on circumstances. Okay, if if our government turns around and says tomorrow, you know what, the United States is closing up business, We're done and we're gonna come back into a couple of

We figure it out. Breaking up, gets in there, I'm there.

What was that, jim.

Kamala? She's still give up?

There was the Kamala in about a year after the stock market, after the four tech stocks to keep the whole thing float finally crashed. She's gonna get up there, start blabbing about how this is a period of time in history and she loves her lawn and the dollar is not gonna be worth toilet.

But see, that's the thing, though, is if the Federal Reserve says, you know what, the dollar is now worthless, you know, deal with it. What are you gonna do?

We'll forget them. It's up to the people, see a follow.

See.

But that's the thing is, at the end of the day, it has to do with what people believe the damn thing is worth. Okay, the digital representation of it, that's what it has to do with. At the end of the day, that's what it is. Even with Okay, just like Jimmy said, though they doubled the amount of currency printed. Thus the inflation happened. That's what happened. Because you print new currency, what does it do. It steals from the existing currency supply the value. That's what it does if

Even it's the Greeks, they'll worry about it later. That's why that's why Cyprus collapsed. Well, okay, worried about it. I got about four thousand series of video stocks, So I'm good.

Okay, see you in a better mood yet, Jimmy, Uh.

Not really, No, we'll bring on the next guess.

I'm trying. I'm trying, but nobody's hanging on the line right now. Actually, but anybody wants to call in three one nine, five two seven five zero one six, you know what we'll do. Let me put Jimmy on hold and maybe the commercials will put them in a better mood. Uh. And you know, one of you guys can join us.

Jimmy, Jimmy, do you have early voting up there where you are?

Oh? Wait, let me put him back on. I put him on hold. Here we go, Here we go, I put him back on.

Do you have early voting, Jimmy, yes, oh yeah. We're in midst of voting season.

But it hasn't started. Our started yesterday, so as you're started up there.

Oh yes, they mail me and he emailed me.

Have you voted yet? No?

I just vote normal.

Here you are.

Now he's waiting, he's gonna go. He's gonna go on November fifth.

No, I think you should go now and go ahead and cast his vote, and he knows it's in the bank and he can start being a little happier. At least he's done his part. He can look at everybody else and said, I already got money and suckers.

Well, there you go, Jimmy. There there's the suggestion from b Pete. But like I said, I'm gonna go ahead and put you on hold, and I'm gonna turn around and take a break here on the Friday Night Live Show and hopefully you guys will join us at three one nine.

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So this will be the second and final segment of the Friday Night open Mic. And uh, I wanted to look in the chat room really quick, kind of fun chase shifters in there. Uh, we're in the post truth post meaning post reality reality. Yeah, yeah, that works. Try giving the guy in the parks toilet for your dope. I don't know what that means anyways, Bitcoin for your dope? All right? Anyway, Pete, we we did talk to Jimmy James. We tried to solve bitcoin, but I got no solutions

You know?

And this is what the worry is with this CDDC stuff, where if the government has.

Just what was the big thing of a couple of what was in the past couple of years, these non non tangible assets or something work like artwork that people were selling online.

Oh, the NFTs, the non fungible tokens or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, what the hell? People have too much time on our hands to come up with crap like that. Hey, I'm gonna invent a coin and you're going to go mine it.

Now.

I'm not going to tell you that there's really none out there, but I've got six and there worth fifteen billion dollars a piece, So y'all have at it. It's like they sit around and make this stuff up for what as a like a hobby, like like something to do when they're supposed to be at work doing something, but they're not doing what they should be doing in their mining Bitcoin, well what was hilarious. It is weird.

Bitcoin is the stronger one. There was like a hundred other coins that came out too. Don't forget Elon Musk was trying to push the doge coin, right, uh, but other people, Yeah, other people have pushed other coins, and these other coins for a couple of years ran pretty rampant, and it was like, oh, well these aren't, you know,

They don't even need a currency in this country with monscule.

Well, everything is virtually digital at this point. Think about how often you actually handle cash, you know what I'm saying, compared to how much money you actually end up putting out for everything, how much of it is actually cashing your hand.

Yeah, I hadn't. I hadn't taken out a car loan. Well, I've taken out a first roal loan. I used my cars collateral and a lot of times because I was out of town on the road, you know, I haven't I pay with everything on a debit card pretty much every day. I haven't written a check in the years. Right. But and especially with the mail service, because you know, when you get your bill, you take your bill, you go ahead and fill out your check, put it back

Well it has, but it just killed me.

That cash was no good anymore. You know I had to do. I had to go down to a CBS and they sent me an electronic bill, and I went to CBS and through their system paid the bill. Yeah, yep, just to give them their money that they wanted. I almost left the cash on the counter and walked out, but I thought, no, if they're not going to give me a receipt, I'm not gonna leave three hundred fifty bucks sitting on.

The counter now because that'll just disappear. But we had we had that problem in Dallas where it was like, well, look, we can't take your you know, your kind of card.

And those assholes and they were just being protected as fucks, that's all.

And then they're like, you were Renzo Hotel, but we also don't take care good work. We don't take cash. I'm like, what how do you not take cash? I was confused.

Wait, they wouldn't take They wouldn't take cash for the room, right. They would take cash for anything else. You could go to the restaurant and get a meal with nine people and run up a thousand dollars bill. Take cash, yep. You could buy the red poole in the fancy little cool right next to the front deskim five bucks a pop. Can't take cash, yep. They wouldn't take cash for the room, right, Amazing.

I didn't know what to do. It was like, what do you do with this? I went outside smoked. I just was like, I don't even know what to say. I mean, I think.

I'll make the guy feel bad enough that he finally had to call a second boss and go, look, we're about to lose thousand dollars sale right here. You might want to take the guy's cash.

Yeah, I mean, even though and they they really didn't want to take it. They did not want it, and then they wouldn't take it even. The funny thing was we had to get somebody else to put up a card because they were like, well, what about incidentals? You know if you guys, you know, like, what are we gonna do? What do you think we're gonna damage the room?

Looks like, dude, I brought all my liquor, booze, I got a hooker coming. Everything's taken care of. There will be no incidentals. That doesn't matter.

Yep.

I offered to give him another five hundred in cash just as a deposit on the incidentals. He wouldn't take it.

Yeah, they wouldn't take a cash deposit even right. It was like no unless it's see. And that's the weird thing is that now we're in age where in some places you can't even use cash.

That's crazy.

Yeah, so everything is digital already, you know what I mean? I mean, where do you go that you can't use things digit outside of what your weed guy? And to be honest with you, there's lots of workarounds for the weed guy. Now you know what I'm saying. You can apple pay your weed guy, It don't matter. What's that.

How do you make change for a bitcoin?

Well you don't. You just you give them a certain percentage of a coin that is based on what you know. That's sixty thou I can.

Cut a bitcoin down to percentages.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you don't give out a whole coin. No, no, no, see sixty eight thousand. I'm not going to give you sixty eight thousand dollars coin for you know, a pair of pants. I mean, that's not a weed.

That's a lot of weeds.

Yeah, well exactly. So you only give him twenty bucks or forty bucks or a hundred bucks or whatever. And yeah, but that's how much comes out of the coin. So it's only a percentage comes out of the coin.

The coin you divide the coin.

Look, I don't understand that process either, but that's what happens. Most people don't even have a whole coin that I know, even if they have some, they're.

Like, and I thought you could wait a way, we're eaven it. I thought you could only find them as one coin.

No, no, no, no, not necessarily you have a bitcoin. You find parts of bitcoins, not even a whole coin.

Wait a minute, I'm doing all this mining and I'm only gonna get like two cents worth out of a bitcoin sometimes, Jesus Christ, is this not the most stupid video game you've ever heard of?

Look, and I've seen people exchange all kinds of weird stuff. Like the first time I saw this was in the late nineties, and people had those online games where you actually mind resources, like you literally mind gold and stuff like that. Right, So people would go on eBay and say, look, I got twenty thousand gold in this video game. I'll sell it to you on eBay for you know, one

Play forward baby a while over me and screamed, this is Diddy Catcher.

Oh boy, here's a familiar voice. I haven't heard from you in a while. Man, how you doing? Yeah?

Last week, Man Graves and Jason Barker weave down the stream that was went a little bit longer than what I side. It was going to him An's calin last week, but I looked up and it's done already, you know, almost ten o'clock. Right, Well, what's Jimmy.

Oh, he's just mad in general. I mean we were talking about bitcoin and all kinds of crazy stuff, and I'm I'm fed up with the culture wars, I'm fed up with the election, so you know. And I was telling people that Swanson doesn't even want to talk to anybody right now because he's fed up with all these people online and what they're reacting to. And I don't know, Jimmy just said, I'm in a bad mood now and that was it. So he asked us to put them on hold. So I did.

Yeah, you know, it's best not, you know, let this bullshit pit you in a bad mood, because in about eighteen nineteen days, one of them is gonna, you know, be the winner. I don't know who I was going to agree on it. How much bitching and crying, you know, it's gonna half a night of the fact. I kind of hope this is going to turn into like one

Yeah.

I hope that's.

How this goes.

So you're hoping it just evaporates.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they take the bath. And I mean even the most hardcore supporter of either one of them at this point has to be wore out.

But you would think so, You would think so. But you know what, I predict this. I predict it no matter who wins, the other side is going to bitch for the next couple of months. So it doesn't matter.

Yeah, well no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

One side Wait a minute, one side if they lose, will bitch for a couple of months. If the other side loses, you're gonna be hearing them bitch for four years, trust me.

Well, to me, it's equal.

But okay, okay.

I add to that is, you know, if Trump doesn't win, we're going to sit here and listen to the rest of our lives of how great it would have been if he won.

That's the reason. One of the biggest reasons why you know I hope he wins is then that way, you know it'll be twofold number one won't have to listen to that shit. And number two the excuses, which I hope he does great. I'll be the first one to say, yeah, see didn't get on this issue, blah blah blah. But churches are you know, he's still the same line, flip flopping the second shit he's always been. But you know, ater about six months, you know, the four D chest

You know, the programming and the propaganda.

You know, even if they complain about a Republican or about Trump, then just just saying as you say, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

They're right back, and they get in defense.

Though.

I hate to use the word, you know, the art word here, but you know that it's made people really but I'll just be glad for it to be over this.

Well, that's the only thing that's gonna make me happy is at least it'll be done, you know. That's that's what I'm waiting on. Just all right, fine, it's done, you know, but.

It's not this. I hate to burst the bubble. Regardless of who wins, it ain't done. We're gonna be now that this is the this is the course that these people that call themselves our representatives have taken. We are never going to hear the end of it. I think we're two we are two partisans at this point. To come back, it's the lines are drawn and people on both sides have had enough of the other side that it's just going to be perpetual mayhem from here on out.

Well, eventually, I'm hoping that people get exhausted, you know, from the I mean, how long can you hold this up of this, you know, being pissing and moaning and not just eventually saying, you know what, we got to accept the way it went and let's get on with things. I mean, really, I don't know. Maybe it's just me. I'm wanting things to be like, you know, like they used to be, where it was like, Okay, look the election's done. Now let's get on with life, you know

It doesn't. It doesn't end because you've got the left side of things that are going to sit there and perpet only bitch and moan. Even when they're in power. They're gonna be bitching and moaning about the other side and on the Republican side of it, until we get rid of some certain people at the higher levels and tell them pack your bags and hit the road, don't come back. We're gonna deal with the same damn problems on the right side of things. That's what I'm saying.

And a friend of.

Mine from Kentucky, I gave him a load of craft the other day over Mitch McConnell, and I happen to make a comment if you had voted that back in the office so many times he's in trench and he's one of the biggest damp roadblocks we've got of getting anything done until you get rid of him and Pelosi and Nattler and the rest of these knuckleheaded ass hats. It's perpetual. We are never gonna get anything settled. It's never gonna be there's never gonna be a truce call

That's good and depressing anyway.

Anything that they're gonna go together on is usually gonna be something that's going to be detrimental to the rest of us. Are riots or whatever, I know stuff And like for.

People out there that likes to, you know, throw Ryan all around and people that you know, bitches about Mitch McConnell.

And you know, I'm one.

Up my bitches as much as anybody.

But when people says, you know, McConnell's screwed Trump, McConnell bus McConnell back, well, you know Trump did upon his wife is the Transportation secretary. So you know got to kind of you know, keep that in uh, put that in the focus and think about that too. But you know every time that you ever point anything out like that about chopping the swamp off instead of graining, and all you get is just spin lies, you know, asking questions to answer question because they have nothing to say.

This is something I don't understand about Trump. Trump would have had a lot less problems in his four years that he was in and he had some different people advising him. Some of the advice that they gave him on certain individuals came back and bit him in the ass. Christopher ray Pad of the FBI is one of them. You know, why would you appoint that man? I don't know. I would think Trump, with his tun there and his business acumen that he supposedly has, would find a better

He was that.

No, you're just disgruntled because you weren't there at the end of it. Because he fired your asked to shut up, go sit down, as we need to start doing.

What Some of them just trying to run from him because it didn't turn out, you know, surpositibly, and you know they're wanting a no job and they see that's more a lot of them, you know what that comes.

The kind that's the problem. You know, when when Trump goes for advice from these guys, he's dealing with people that have been in the swamp so long. They're going to recommend other people that have been in the swamp so long that while Trump's trying to drain the swamp, he needs to look at his old fist fond and get rid of some of the crap he brought in there.

But I just don't see how anybody made advice I own, you know, Bill of Rights issues verse second for its amendment. You know, he shipped on every one of them, just as soon as he could said well I set forward fetcher. You know, we've beat the part about what he's you know, guns and the second.

Men of today.

Look at everybody just started getting banned off YouTube. All that stuff happened under him. I don't think that would have happened under Jeb or Hillary. I think it'd been too many people raising hell to where that it meant so.

But you know, every way happened now it would have. I mean, she played her cards the other day when she made the comment that, you know, people need to be held either criminally or civilly liable for misinformation, and I thought, God, coming out of your mouth, woman, you just said that you had the balls to sit there and say that to the public after the shit you pulled for two and a half years over your Russian dossier. My God, that's why I'm saying we need to bring

No that I cannot with.

I don't think you even have to do anything like that, as much as just keep going out when they're lying. You know what they're lying about just don't let it just go over your head and you know, keep moving.

No, no, no, we have that now. And that was something I brought up the other week when we were talking

Hey, they I got a question to you, see that I wanted to ash for the last two weeks.

But here I am speaking.

Of, you know, alleged blatant lives and so called blatant lives and everything.

What have you been here?

And I know you're over more in the eastern part of the state, but what have you been hearing about over North Carolina. Garis about some of this famous have you been hearing? You know, have you heard anything from actual people that you know they wouldn't lie or they wouldn't knowingly be carrying a line what's going on on the ground over there.

Yeah, I've heard a lot of it, and I mean some of us been secondhand, but I talk to people that have actually gone up there. In fact, our company is getting together a list of people to go up there to start working with the debris removal and inspecting all of that, you know, overseeing the paperwork oven and what gets carted off and where it is taken. But FEMA, Yeah, they've been claiming. FEMA's got twelve hundred people on the

One.

Nobody knew that it no. I don't why people couldn't imagine it could be this catastrophic. We're having that much rain in that area, but they weren't prepared for it. They don't know how to get around it. They it's taken a while to be able for the state to even get there. Necessity's in place to be able to go up and fix the blowouts on I forty Asheville was completely cut off there for a while. So slowly

That's bath pretty much.

Creeks that that measured three feet across the bottom and might have a four or five foot bank are now out of its bank with a water depth of probably twenty feet one hundred feet wide, taking everything in his path. I mean, it's just really it's devastation that you could only describe as biblical. There you go in proportion.

So anyway, even with the crazy news story about you know, maybe there was just a photo op as opposed to you know, did Kamala just do a photo op and not send out supplies and all that? I mean, I've gotten all sorts of mixing.

Yeah, he did the photo wop and Seema didn't send out the supplies. Two totally different things, right, Seema dropped the ball on this one, plain and simple and for them. And that's another thing. My Orcas comes out, No, no, no, not my orcas. Yes, head hoole. Lands Security comes out and says, now that FEMA's under them. You know, we're running out of money in this program. We're going to have to have some more money. And then you got locals here going to wait a minute, what happened all

Well, we're totally about time. Well, we're totally out of time for this Friday night. And thanks to Harlan, Thanks for Jimmy James for calling in, Thanks to my co host Vpete, and thank you for listening. We're all done, and next week, like I said, Larry Hancock, Robert Grodin and hopefully some more surprises on the show. Plus we'll do this Friday night open mic thing again. Anyway, until then,