The Ochelli Effect 1-19-2024 Open Mic

The Ochili Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet Window dot com and listeners like yeah yeah, and in a media yeah, underrated, undefeated, and who gives a damn anyway, It is January nineteen, twenty twenty four, allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, and we're live on the stream at ocelly dot com just about ten minutes after eight pm Eastern and what we used to call America, and uh guess what, we're taking phone calls for the

next four hours. Now. I'm not going to be lying the next four hours, and I'm hoping not to talk too much, even cause all I got on my mind is stuff that doesn't really matter. I am so sick of the American politic. I am beyond all of the other ticks. And I do mean the ticks, as in the little creatures and the things that make people twitch. It's happening out there watching Rond DeSantis lick his lips and grind his teeth while he's trying to talk. Yeah, that's fun. Sure,

it is incredible. Nikki Haley finally trying to stand against Trump. Yay, I don't know who's celebrating that. It's stupid. Why don't you guys all go home and give up. Oh I forgot. You're gonna get some money out of it. But Tim Scott wanted to make sure he endorsed Trump even though he's out of the race. Uh, just ahead of New Hampshire. You're likely president, I tell you again. Uh, but hey, pay no attention to me because I don't know what I'm talking about, and

who knows. Maybe we'll talk about Russia and all that other good stuff, or maybe I'll spend my time talking about cookies on a Friday night. But mainly I want to hear from you. Three one nine five two seven five zero one six three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call. Or you can reach me Charles do out Ocelli on Skype, and especially if you're in international waters out there somewhere, it's free to reach me via Skype. And if you send me a message, I'll

call you into the show. That's a way it'll work on my show and Aaron's and uncles tonight here on a Friday on ochelly dot com Radio. So if you're in and by the way, if you're listening on a final Slab of Choice, A phone, a device, whatever, and you don't have a chat room. If you go over to Chelly dot com. We do have one of those as well, which you can pop out and not use the player. If you've got a preferred other streamer that you're listening to us

on, so you can join us in the chat. You can join us on Skype, or you can dial in three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six from you know, any phone that reaches North America. I have international numbers, but nobody asks for them, and I don't want to list them all because I got about forty of them. But anyway, we are live here on this Friar's day, and now it's about twelve minutes after the hour of eight pm Eastern, and uh, thankfully I got

through that quickly. My co host P Pete is with me, and we also have two Skype callers who have already joined us. So that's the way it is on a Friday. Bpete, let's start with you. I know you haven't gotten a chance to skim the news today or anything, but who knows, maybe we won't talk about news. We'll talk about whatever these people want to bring up as they call in join us. Or whatever. We got two skypers already on the line. I'll get to them after you,

but first be beating my calls my brother. How are you? Oh, I'm good. We're glad. It is Friday. Man, it's been a long week, so we're getting ready to freeze our butts off overnight though supposed to get down a load twenties so winters here and of course North Carolina weather, you'll be able to wear shorts of flip flops next week when he gets up to seventy. Yeah, I think I'm about to get the cold snap tonight too. I'm not sure if it's going to drop to the twenties on

the overnight or not, but there it is. It's been weird in the Southeast lately. I know we got one skiper from the southeast, and we got one from another part of the country, not quite in the southeast, but not too far away. I just dropped something now I got to try and pick it up here. Anyway. The deal is, it's getting cold and a lot of places snow hitting here and there. Do you get any snow in North Carolina because I'm in a slightly different tempered region. Oh yeah,

well, we always get in the western part of the state. We get it here occasionally. You've got to get snow in this area. You have to have a low pressure system come from Texas, skirt the Gulf, and right before it hits Florida, it turns left at Georgia or it goes past it's the Atlantic Ocean comes up the coast and we get what's called a northeastern right and that's I mean, just like a hurricane. You've got this

low pressure system churning and it's going up the coast. So every all the winds are coming in from the northeast and it just blows the banks and the beaches and everything to pieces and works its way on out. Now, if it's cold enough, when one of those come through, that's when we get snow. And we've had up to a foot in this area off foot and a half, so it's rare that we get it. When we do,

it's usually a dusting. But we get it out west like We've got some real good snow skiing out west, a lot of slopes up there, so yeah, we're used to it. Well, look the second that people can't try, no, no, not at all. The second the previous day's rain freezes on an overnight here in Georgia, look out, man, because nobody knows how to drive on it. They're sliding off the road, hitting

things, hitting each other, yeah things. But you know, I find it funny that we've got so many of these damn Yankees coming down here from where snow is all the time, and you know what, they can't drive in it either. So ignore what's you here. If it snows, get up there, have a blast. Just make sure your insurance is paid up, and you know, take chance, roll the dice, you live life. Yeah, the Yankees don't know how to drive in the snow. Notice

it doesn't look like that in Jersey. Even though they got like a foot and a half up there right now or something. People are not abandoning their cars on the side of the road for a little ice. Go ahead. But but think about a north You've got the equipment up there hitting the roads. It's able to get crap moved in most cases, and traffic the world can still function down here. It's not like that. They got, you know, a single axle dump truck with a blade on the front. They

think they're gonna push snow over that. It's so bad on the interstates. We put we have to put motivators out there. It is pretty funny. Like four, it is pretty funny. Nobody's prepared. They can't figure out how to dump sand on the road or nothing around, you know, in the in the South here it is funny. I mean, look, it

is true they're prepared up there. But the funny part is well, but the funny part is it keeps coming down, so you have a constant sheet of ice that these guys actually when they're clearing away all that snow and getting that out of the way, sometimes that leads to more problems because they turn slush over and then it freezes again on the overnight and you're on a constant sheet of ice, whether you're walking outside or you or you're driving outside.

So believe it or not, they do get a tuned to driving on ice at least now as far as the snow goes. Yeah, you're right, I mean, nobody knows how to driving the damn snow. Everybody's an idiot. It's it's too funny, and you yeah, you might as well just embrace it. So hey, you know, someone just time to drive in the snow and go out and have you know, do your go about your business. We don't shut down. I'm still commuting an hour and a half. Snow, rain, it doesn't matter. So you just can't take on.

Which is funny if you notice how nowadays like here, Oh it's going to get super cold, and we're going to postpone school. Oh it's supposed to snow. Okay, well, schools shut down. You know, we haven't seen the first flake and it's not coming for a day, but we've gone ahead, declared an emergency, and we're sutting schools down for three days. I don't see how today's generation can get through winter without spending all of summer in therapy because they're so put out. I mean, we close,

we close the school. If it gets too hot, we close the school. If it's too cold in the morning. Kids can't wa Whose last time you saw a kid walk to school? It's weird. I don't know how people can survive. There's just a bunch of Wilsies out there that can't handle mother Nazer fair enough. And for that kind of thing, why don't we turn to our other friends on Skype and see what they got to say. Start with Captain Tripps. If he's with US. Captain you available to talk?

I am, I am. I thought it was a left turn at Albuquerque, not Florida. Is this something there? You go? How is it? How is it in Desanta, Stan with your governor being absent there in Florida? Is the weather? I mean, like, I think I've made this comment. As a governor, for the most part, he actually is pretty good. Unfortunately, he's a little He's got his areas where I'm in complete disagreement with him, But overall, as a governor, I've liked

him. As a presidential candidate, he has been absolutely abysmal. It's a real shame. I keep scratching my head, going, dude, why did you do this? And I mean you got some really bad advice. Still, he came in second place in New What was it in Iowa? Right? I mean in the Iowa coues he's second place. Even though he's licking his Did you see him on his town hall on CNN any clips of that? No, he's licking his lips like a dog that you forgot to leave

the water bowl out for from yesterday. I mean, like just over and I'm trying, I'm like, why is this weird? Ticket. I'm thinking back, Why am I focusing on this? Oh yeah, because every debate I was watching him grinding his teeth. I mean, at first I saw him do that before. What the hell I mean, he's he's I don't know what it is. And I've talked to more than a few people that actually know him personally, and they said, he's not like that in person.

Apparently he's very He's much more personable and easy going if you actually have a conversation with the guy. But yeah, he he he seems to freeze up on the camera, super nervous. I mean, Nick, Nikki Haley, you can watch her drop her head and recollect herself all the time, and that's her little gig, right. I mean, I watched the ticks

of these people because it tells you a lot about their personality. Nikki Halee, You'll drop her head and go okay, okay, I'm not going to say this, but I am going to say this, and then she'll pick her head back up and put her eyes back on the camera. She's trained. Okay, It's just that simple. DeSantis is not. He's grinding, Steve. He seems very very very fake, very scripted, you know, look, I'm going to tell you the same typical things that everybody's been telling

you for the past thirty years. That's how it goes. And he speaks with that cadence exactly. I'm going to say, get it out here, all in one sentence, right at once. And it doesn't matter if I made a mistake in what I said, because I'm just going to keep going that that's the way he handles things, right, that's my Desanti's impressions everybody, But it's not it's actually not that. What blows my mind though about him is he's never capitalized on his strongest, you know, his strongest campaign

thing, which was the whole COVID crap. And it's like, and I watch him, I'm going, you have the perfect you know, you could attack you can he could have actually attacked Trump on this because Trump attacked him. Yeah, and you know he but but yet he doesn't. He didn't focus on that, And I just have to scratch my head, going, that was your strongest point and you have I mean, he's made you know, he'll make a couple of comments about it, but you know I was.

I just keep thinking, man, that this is your strong point,

and for some reason, you're just not even going near it. Well, have you had local news in Florida, because I'm curious as to how they're covering your governor literally placing second, even though the rest of the media across the country is treating it as though Haley one, yeah, which is really weird because she didn't and I mean in reality right now, RFK Junior could claim more of the Republican uh, you know, voters than Nikki Haley could.

He's just wasn't part of the caucuses. But it was. I just I saw a story I can't remember where it was, basically warning Trump, don't pick this woman to be your vice president. You'll I think I think that would lose him the election. I don't know. I don't know because she's really I mean, yeah, she she is the establishment pick, and I think that may have been what it was for some reason. They thought the Santis was going to be on pro establishment and I mean on some things.

On some things he certainly is, but on some things he's not right. But I think I think Haley would be you know, uh, would would definitely be more friendly to the to the uniparty established. Absolutely true. Local news, I don't really pay much attention to it. Sorry, what would that be? I was I was going to say, if you look at the job of vice president and what they do, Nikki Haley would be perfect for it. But yeah, anybody has qualified for it after what we

have in office now as vice president. Yeah, you could put old shoes. Would definitely be more intelligent, There's no question about that. But she's she's hit some foreign state experience, you know, uh, be an ambassador to you in she's well also working with international companies as being the governor of

South Carolina. I mean she has that gubernatorial experience as well. So I mean one could say from a typical political standpoint, she has plenty of experiences to be able to work in the White House, to be able to work in the cabinet, to be vice president, I think no problem from a purer skills standpoint, BPTE. Don't you. Oh yeah, I think she'd make a good vice president. But I don't see it happen but under Trump. But not a good worry. What worries What worries me is what I'm

afraid may happen. And I could be wrong, but what I'm what I'm afraid may happen. I mean, it really looks like unless unless they can somehow get something to stick to Trump and they can somehow officially pull him off the ballot. I don't think there's any way this guy doesn't win the Republican nomination. And if you, if the polling is even remotely accurate, he should beat Biden. I mean, if you if the election was held tomorrow. I quite frankly, I think if the election was held tomorrow, I

could beat Biden. But that's that's a whole other story. Yeah, I think I could too, because she's got about what a thirty three approval rating. I mean, if that hord, then he you know, he's alienating a lot of I think the core support that he had because they disagree with

his administration's his administration's position on the Israel Israel Gaza issue. And I'm not taking a position, and I'm just saying, clearly, a good percentage of the people that voted for him in twenty twenty have a different point of view

than his administration does on this whole issue. So I don't see I see him losing votes for that, And honestly, I'm going to be shocked, as I'm going to be shocked as anything if the man is actually going to be on the ballot in November. He just doesn't look like he's gonna live that long. Biden, whether I like him or not, I hear you, but you know, will either one of them live? There was that weird thing going on where syphilis started trending on Twitter for a minute because of

sores showing up on Trump's hand. I thought that was pretty funny, and I wanted to point out to people that I got excoriated for saying it in twenty seventeen. But you know, I'm a bad guy. Or actually I said it before that didn't I But it doesn't matter. That's when I said

it a few times out loud. I'll tell you what's funny is, you know, again bringing up RFK Junior if you take a look at his position when you talk about people that want to stay out of war, and I want to get the regular Joe next by the way, But here it is. This is from their campaign because I get emails several times a day from them, and I also get text messages. I'm on all these lists for RFK Junior, and I don't even know how I got on some of them,

but anyway, the Ukrainian War should never have happened. This is from Kennedy twenty four. It's a dispatch from the RFK Junior. The Ukrainian War should have never happened, and it's time we understand the complex webs surrounding it. The backstory. Now this is not my words, this is again the RFK Junior campaign. The backstory. Russia tried multiple times to settle this conflict, wanting one key thing is to keep NATO out of Ukraine. However,

the big military contractors had other plans. Adding new countries to NATO meant a captive market for specific companies like Northbrough, Grumm and Raytheon General Dynamics, Boeing and Lockheed. The financial toll. In March twenty twenty two, we committed a staggering one hundred and thirteen billion to the war in Ukraine. To put it in perspective, that could have provided homes for almost every homeless person in our country. But it doesn't end there. An additional twenty four billion was

committed two months ago. Now President Biden is seeking another sixty billion. The money trails Senator Mitch McConnell recently revealed a startling truth. It's a money laundering scheme. The funds aren't really going to Ukraine, They're going to American defense manufacturers. And who owns these companies Blackrock The loan illusion. Senator Tim Scott tried to ease concerns by calling the billions were giving away a loan, but it's not a generous offer. It's a tactic. By labeling it alone,

extreme austerity measures can be imposed on Ukraine. This includes putting government owned assets up for sale to multinational corporations, including its prize to agricultural land. The land grab Ukraine's farmland, the bread basket of Europe is a major target. Thirty percent of it has already been sold to DuPont, Cargel and Monsanto, all entities owned by Blackrock, meat qualifying this pulling that away partially owned by

Blackrock, not completely owned by Blackrock, but partially indeed anyway. The building contract is the next headline in here. In December, President Biden awarded the contract to rebuild Ukraine, and yes, you guessed it, black Rocks secured the deal. The strategy. The strategy is ancient but effective. Keep us at war with each other. By fostering division, they maintain control. They're doing all this right in front of us because they believe they can get away

with it. How do we stop them? We unite. That's printed in red, and various things were underlined as I went. The last line in their communication is the power to change the lies. The power to change this lies with us, the citizens. We can't dismantle the corrupt systems that perpetuate war for profit without your generous support. Of course, this is the thing. Now, you're supposed to contribute to Kennedy's campaign, et cetera, et

cetera. But that is a position that's being taken by a lot of people. I'm not saying it's all correct. I'm just saying that this is a logical ste that's being made coherently by a bunch of people about this situation. And that's only one of the wars that we're actually involved in, despite the fact that we're lacking headlines on a bunch of stuff. Anyway, all of this in mind, I want to turn to my other friend who's kind of snowed in, and I have a feeling hasn't been paying a lot of attention

to the news. Regular Joe, is any of this hitting your psychological field, your cocoon over there or regular Joe? Have you missed all of this in recent days? I've missed everything that you guys have brought up. Excellent, excellent, So I'm hearing a bit of it for the first time now. So yeah, no, I've officially dropped out. I think so. But I am snowed in and I think we're supposed to be seeing windchills of fifteen below zero tonight. Oh boy, that's rough. I don't know what

the windshills are here. I haven't studied it yet. I don't even want to look until after at least I'm done with my show. But let me ask you, man, what is on your mind? I know you definitely pointed me to the latest Dave Chappelle offering a couple of weeks ago. You and I have been in and out of contact lately. I had some problems, but you know it is what it is. How are you doing and what is in your world your mind? And what would you like to discuss?

I mean, I could turn to some other emails I get regarding news like Metal Hammer with it with a headline that says, hopefully we get more horny heavy metal songs in twenty twenty four. We could go to some recent news science. We could go to JP Satilli's statement, Bbe's Moment of truth if you want to talk about Israel, but I have a feeling you don't

want to cover any of that. We could go to the five minute Fix from the Washington Post, which I find really bizarre, as they discussed the Hunter Biden situation, which is ongoing and apparently he's going to be testifying at Congress soon. But anyway, what's on your mind? Actually, well, on the whole vice president job you guys were talking about earlier, I've got

two words. You ready, it's blast from the past. But dan Quail nice nice and the country didn't collapse, you know, the country didn't collapse. And I don't know what to take a dan Quayle. I'm told he's a fairly decent lawyer. But anyway, go ahead. Yeah, So, you know, my stance on politics is now and probably even more so than it ever was. I just don't participate, and I and not figure out

for the life of me why anyone else does. So, you know, you know we've been scammed and what's well, you know, if you know it's a scam and you call for it anyway, that's your fault. Yeah. Well, you know, the fun thing is it is kind of a mostly bloodless sport, So I mean, what else do you got to entertain you? I don't think the AI is writing most of the you know, of the entertainment lately are doing a good job because most of it sucks.

Although I did enjoy that Dave Chappelle show, I gotta tell you that was a good recommend thank you. Well, yeah it was. It wasn't bad at all. It wasn't as good as some of his previous ones, but even Dave Chappelle, even on an off night, as one of the best there's ever been. Yeah. I was kind of comparing to his to his three heroes that he mentions frequently himself. He's like a mixture of the three, and that's Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor and Bill Cosby. That's that's Dave

Chappelle. He's like those three perfected. Yeah, and you know, it's amazing that he did that tour with Chris Rock and that was a big deal. Uh, you know, because to me, Chris Rock is kind of a poor man's Eddie Murphy. Uh, that's the way he's always been. But of course he's become a bigger star than Murphy was in a lot of ways. You know, it's it's weird, but Dave is is unique. It never stops with him. And by the way, I love the overreaction

of his you know, oh, there he is. He's bashing the Trani's again and I'm like, no, he's not. He is just poking at you people and laughing his ass off all the way to the bank. I think it's brilliant actually what he did with that special throughout it just kind of going oh, by the way, no, I'm not afraid to talk about it, but I got other stuff to cover. Boom. I thought that was pretty funny. What did you think of that? Yeah, he's just

brilliant. He's always on top of his game and he's it's like he never missed. As if he was a baseball player, he would have record stats because you know, he just says what he wants and I think it's his goal to to fire up canceled culture. He wants to do it. It's obvious he's doing it on purpose every time, and they still haven't caught on. Yeah, he's winnings. We talk about how you know, it's so funny to me because they keep falling for it each and every single time.

You want to talk about people falling for the same thing, they keep going for it every single time. And he yanks that rug right out from under him. I mean, it's hilarious. Yeah, he's before he tells the joke. It's like it's like he has turned comedy into chess. He's brilliant. Yeah, and with the social issues and what's funny is I really wish there was more. It seems like a lot of the people that are very concerned with cancer cancel culture and you know, and and the whole Oh my

god, you know that the trannies are coming. You know, I'm afraid of the story hours and all these those people should be like cheering him on the way he's handling this, and they're not. They're not getting behind him. It's always the weirdest thing to me to watch that where it's like they they still want to tout Joe Rogan, they still want to tout you know, Oh, look at what's going on on Twitter, which, by the way, Twitter X. Now you know the wonderful free speech platform. You

know who's now going to have a broadcast show on there? And I doubt it's going to get any action, But pretty funny that this guy's going there, Don Lemon, So, I mean, is he gonna play how racist is this? On? On Twitter X platforms? I mean, he's going the way up. And you know there's money there. If you've got Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon going to the same well, guess what that means.

There's at least a good paycheck behind it. Somehow somebody's guaranteeing him decent money to just go on Twitter and put out a podcast basically through their platform. So it's a weird world. And oh, Alex Jones was restored. I don't know if you knew about that. Joe to Twitter and all that. Yeah, I didn't know. But Alex Jones, man, well you gave it up on Twitter a couple of years ago. But yeah, good, the whole thanks Pale thing. It's like, why have these groups that figured

out that he's on their side? He's flat towed them in more than one special I'm on your side, you know. He he just can't stop writing the jokes. Yeah, and well, because one they're writing themselves and two here's the other thing that people miss the point of when it comes to a comedy. Matter of fact, I put up on Twitter right away at right after I watched the special. I was a little pissed, and why I

made sure to include blind Joe in the descriptor. I said, you know, he's not making fun of handicapped people enough, and he doesn't make any blind jokes. I'm a little pissed. I feel left out and blind Joe, how about you? Doesn't this suck because I'd like, you know, I'd like people to remember there's actually handicapped people out there to be made fun of too. Everybody should be the target of humor with a guy like this,

and I love it, I really do. So sorry. That was the only thing I was mad at is that he started to act like he was going to pick on some handicapped people, you know, and then he did it like one joke only and no blind jokes. Damn it, come on, Dave, blind jokes, let's go. I know you can do it, okay, you know, look back at Eddie Murphy with his Stevie

Wonder impression. That was the best, even Stevie Wonder nugget, Come on, man, anyway, sorry, go ahead, And even the most lame joke he told that he knew wasn't going to work because he said he'd told it over and over and it never worked, and he said, and it's not going to work tonight either, and it didn't. And it was still good with the cone joint of us in our watery grave, yep, he's making and and that's well, it's almost you know, it's not going to

work. You tell it anyway, and it's all right. It's still didn't work, but it's it's okay, Yeah, that's good, and it's great because and I know he's just telling The funny part is he's telling that in front of everybody to basically needle his wife. Which is the funniest part of it is that he's doing that right out in public too, you know. But then again, this is the same guy he says, you know, every once in a while when he catches her sleep and he just humps her

feet too. I mean that that's another thing, like, this is a guy who just doesn't care and lays certain things out there for the world to hear, regardless of how much it makes somebody else squirm, even himself, which I think is hilarious. And he doesn't do to spare himself either. I mean he busts Sea Bus jokes on himself all the time. Yeah, and they're brilliant. So you know, I'm a fan, I really am. I think he's a genius. Yeah, no, I agree with you.

But anyway, so I wanted to be glad to cover that part of the media as we go forward. I've got this five minute fix from the Washington Post which is all about Hunter Biden. I might read from it a little bit, but before we do that, we got a caller to get to. So, Joe, you got anything else you want to put on the on the table here before I go to UH, looks like Jimmy James is the only one on the phone line, but anybody could join us.

Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call. UH. I want to get to Jimmy next. But you got anything else, Joe? Before I go there out, Let's go ahead and move on to Jimmy. All right, be Pete, you good with that? Or you got something you want to add in? You want to say something about Chappelle anything all right, excellent? And I love the fact that, you know, people that were picking on him for being racist, it's

hilarious too, like he was anti Asian. At one point He's like, well, my wife's Asian and you know I got kids too, But okay, you know, it's so funny. It's just too too funny. And his response to the uh you know, the we they them crowd was to have one of them open for him. Uh that you know, people said, you know, he wouldn't support you know, artists like that. He just went and did it. I I just I don't know what to say.

The guy responds perfectly every time. I think people need to take lessons from him for dealing with cancel culture and the uh the woke but completely sleepwalking still alleged left. But anyway, I believe we got Jimmy James on the line. So let's see what's on his Jimmy James that you this is a that is I. That is him saying I as in I am here. So I am Jimmy James. How are you? Oh? I'm doing all right? Negative for here? No when chilled factor needed, it's just playing

negative four mm hmm. But your football team did well, right, You got that right? M h Well, hey, look broken clocks and such. I gotta get something right once in a while, so it's on your mind. No, everything, and not too. I was just thinking of Shakespeare. Shakespeare. Tell me Chuck, of course, tell me Chuck. Do you appree she Shakespeare? I appreciate a lot of Shakespeare in work.

Sure. I used to really enjoy a lot of his poetry. And of course I read the plays, and well not all the plays, but many of the plays, you know, the historical ones. I liked Julius Caesar. I think at some point I read Romeo, Romeo and Juliet. I really like Hamlet, to be honest. A lot of intrigue in that one, political assassination and all kinds of chicanery going on in the kingdom there in

Denmark. But yeah, interesting stuff Shakespeare, and a lot of things I believe in coded messaged in there in the writings of the alleged William Shakespeare, who may or may not be one or more people historically speaking. But what are your thoughts on Shakespeare? And some people say, Sir Francis Bacon, good, I'd say, you're there's a last smoke of what you just said.

No, there is, there is. I'm not saying I conclude that it's accurate, but I see where there's good evidence for there being maybe him and other authors involved in the collective works of the alleged William Shakespeare. But regardless of who authored it, it's pretty pretty amazing stuff. Yeah, yeah, and clearly I mean Shakespeare. I mean, have you ever met anyone

in your name in the world with it. It's obviously a fake Shakespeare, as you know, the guy who well, yeah, to shake a spear, right, a guy who constantly was making currently you know, in his time, right, a lot of political commentary, but claiming that it was through historical figures, right, trying to explain things with these historical plays, ascribing it to other countries, and very likely making commentary about current events related

to the crown in his own country, even if that indeed was his own country. You know. Again, I stand kind of agnostic as to whether this guy was legitimately a singular individual or if indeed that was his name, so you know, but but go ahead. I mean, it's pretty interesting stuff, even historically. Yeah, oh, it's fascinating, it is. And before the Percetolet, Elizabethtnah and Old Shakespeare and the King James fir surviible. You know, we wouldn't have if we were to try to speak to

someone that's spoken that type of English and just it wouldn't happen. They were just completely ignorant people. They just one could read, one could write, but the stories were translated. But see that was the point of the place, right Well that was the point of the place, wasn't it, Jimmy, Because wasn't that the point of the plays? Because even if you couldn't read or write, you could follow the stories right right right right? That's

why. And I think that they were trying to and they did successfully manipulate the English language. Wouldn't agree, Oh absolutely, the English language. I agree with Jordan Maxwell on this that it's a designer language, and it's designed to be simultaneously unifying and confounding. You know, where a lot of words are meant to imply one thing, when meanwhile they're stating exactly the opposite thing,

and it's meant to be misleading. And I'm not sure what the entire design was about, but it appears to be something that somebody thought out pretty well. Integrated many other languages into it, and it nearly is a universal language as matter of fact when it comes to business. In the late nineties, early two thousands, you know, again, English was before the days

of now what we have almost universal translators. We could translate stuff in real time almost you know, a lot of people were encouraging their children, look, go learn English, because that's going to be the international language of business. And this way you can also speak to the Americans and various other countries that use a variation of this language, and that seemed to be something that

could be universal, you know. So you know, in Asia and Europe, they very much encouraged English, the English language for a little while. I think that might have shifted in recent years oddly enough, but I don't see people really pushing other people in other parts of the world to learn Chinese, although I think it wouldn't be a bad idea if some people around you

knew how to interpret it. You know, there was a point at which people were saying we should all learn Japanese because they were dominating the computer world, the technology world, et cetera. But that faded away. The Japanese no longer dominate those things. They built up something very strange over there in their society and were very successful financially for a little while, but now have

kind of stagnated, it seems, on the world stage. But then again, perhaps it's because of my disconnect from that culture that I don't understand all of what's happening. I do know about the birth rates and the loneliness of men and stuff. But anyway, somehow they somehow they definitely lost their yen. There's that they definitely lost their yet right around what about ninety five seems

like, right. So anyway, my buddy Japanese no no, I was just gonna say that, you know, and I know Bpete sometimes is rather fascinated by Korean culture, which to me, although I know it's incorrect, but you know, dumb American over here, it seems like an offshoot of Japanese and Chinese culture, and I guess it's related because it's kind of in the same region but has its own sort of unique history, despite the fact that it was divided into two countries, you know, when the Armistice took

place, you know, after the Korean conflict. It is a different culture as well, and one that takes a bit of deciphering to begin to understand. Although they built some bridges with things like k pop and various other forms of entertainment. You know, people have gone and looked at the animation and some of the television shows and some of the storytelling and have adapted it into

the English speaking world. In recent years, Korea has sort of risen up as a cultural influence oddly enough, and seems like stronger than Japan, even which Japan again was seemed to be a rising titan when I was growing up, even starting with car manufacturing and then moving to other technologies. Yeah, ah'd be pete. One thing that has to do with that is the fact that South Korea is the most wired country in the world based on population size

and their internet infrastructure. Everybody's online, and they lead South Korea is Korea itself is a totally separate culture from China and Japan. They've had influence, They've been ruled over by various aspects, but they're their own, you know, distinct culture. They had their own dynasties way back, you know, when dirt was created. But they lead in a lot a lot of the new technology in that they are the most wired country in the world. A

lot of well like MTV. MTV was huge here when they used to play music and music videos were the thing, and that's what these entertainment or record companies did is produce videos strictly for that medium. VH one, MTV. They're still real big over there. A lot of the entertainment companies go to MTV studios to have their music videos shot. They're leading technology. I mean, look at their car industry. Hyundai and Kia are big sellers here in

the States now. They've kind of surpassed Japan in a lot of areas, and they're way ahead of China in most areas. But it's all technology driven, and it's an old world culture that is at the leading edge of what we're seeing today in the forms of media and electronic media. So South Korea is very influential when it comes to things like that. Yeah, it's a

long way. Yeah, it's strange because before that tumbling that, you know, Jimmy James kind of pinpointed around nineteen ninety five, which I think is about accurate, where Japan sort of fell from its position to promin it's its perch. It seemed like Korea was starting to challenge them in a literal technological race regarding things like consumer electronics. I think that's when those car companies really started to sell here in this country. I don't know how long they've existed.

I don't know the history, but you know, previous to that, Toyota and what was it, Mitsubishi. I think we're the two biggest producers that were doing well here. Yes, sorry, yeah, it's Toyota and Nissan were the two biggest. Oh nsaid Subaru had other companies come in Mitsubisi. Mitsubisi is really shrunk compared to where they used to be in the all market. It's it's they're very limited in the series of missispecies that you can

still get over here. They were big at one time, but Hunda and Kia hold a huge part of the market and product wise put something out there that's just as comparable and can compete with either Nissan or Toyota. Oh and you know what told you that they were going to have and even bigger market share is and this relates to you a little bit, is when they came

out with those commercials with the hamster driving the car. To be honest with you, it was perfect it was exactly the kind of thing to get attention, uh for what some people call the toaster, right, the little Kia souls that are those funny shows. Yeah. Of all the cars I've owned, I've owned Subarus, I've owned Toyotas, I've owned Fords, I've owned Chevyes. Of all the cars I've owned or driven throughout my entire life, I really like that Kiyas. For the money and the ride and the durability

and the economy of the car. I'd buy another one. Oh well, you saw how it was you took it when we drove it to Texas. It's not a bad for a cheap little car. It's not a bad ride. No. I was just gonna say, driving twelve hours that Texas didn't kill me in that car. I mean, look, I was a little stiff, but you're gonna be stiff sitting anywhere for twelve hours, right.

But the thing is, I mean it actually was fairly comfortable. It's compact, it doesn't kill you on gas, and the sticker price isn't brutal to begin with, So you know, I mean I'm looking at everything else being what it's like, fifty thousand dollars for a new car realistically at this point, and used cars are a way to hell up, you know. So, And right now I got nothing to say because all I got is a busted Saturn in my driveway of two thousand Saturn. But yeah, same what

she came over here. They tried, you know, they started cutting in on the market on Nissan well back then Dotson and Toyota, and they were affordable Subaru gl and it was a great little car, five speed, you know, get you down the road sheet and it didn't cost much to ensure it. But then the berking Stock crowd got ahold of a couple of models of Subaru, and now they have a very high opinion of what their car

is worth. So, you know, for spending the money on something like that, Kia now is where Subaru was before they got expensive and nobody could afford them. Right I forgot about Dotson, but a very very good car. I'm looking at a Hyundai right now. I've been considering buying one of those new Santa Cruz is a small four do or pickup that they've got, and I'm thinking very seriously about it. But yeah, I'd buy another Kia Soul in a minute, it's been an excellent car. I'd recommend it to

anybody. Yeah, and what was it that Toyota Corolla was like the longest lasting damn thing in the world. Like those things were on the road for thirty years, Like no matter how you treat it, pretty much well at the Corolla right sale value, you know, they hold their value because they do last so long. Yeah, with without you know, a ton of intense maintenance, just with some basic maintenance. I mean I had a friend had one for like twenty years, literally like the same you know, light

blue and you've seen these commonly the Corolla. The model was very prevalent for a while and it was everywhere, you know, So I don't know, man, it's a weird thing to watch. But but nowadays, yeah, I'm thinking Korea is you're next up and comer, although in manufacturing other goods and things, you know, Vietnam is on the rise too. There's always an Asian nation, you know, rising up to take care of the cheap goods aspects of things, and there's always one that's on the cutting edge of

technology. And as much as you know, China ends up manufacturing all kinds of small electronic pieces. They never do master the more complex machinery and the larger tag items. So it's pretty fascinating. You know, China's all your cheap, cheap, small crap. But and you know, used to be slave labor but now no longer. Uh. But all these other Asian countries are coming up and filling that gap now. So you know, it's a weird world. And while we're talking about that, there's a lot of international

business going on that I think people are paying no attention to. But you know, as per usual, let's watch who finishes second place next to New Hampshire, uh, and so on and so forth. So tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a little break here because we are gonna have to end abruptly at ten pm Eastern on Ocelli dot Com to get the Age of Transition started. But join us three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call. Jimmy James is called in.

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I have to say. I've got something loaded up. Maybe I'll talk about hydrox cookies before we're all done. I keep teasing that. Who knows if I'll get to it. Maybe I'll save it for a news story for next week. And I got a news program to put out from last night, but I got to do some editing because there was some flaws in the recording, so I got to fix that and gonna put it out though hopefully you guys heard it live if you listen to the live stream here and there.

But I'll get that out over the weekend along with this show, Aaron Show and Uncle, which is coming up at ten pm Easter and Aaron Franz returns to Friday Nights with the Age of Transitions and Uncle. The broadcast will start at eleven pm Eastern or somewhere thereabouts. So back to it, Bpete. We still got two guys on the skype and well, it looks like one additional caller outside of Jimmy James on the regular phone line. I thought we

had two, but I think the other one hung up. So you can call back in three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six join us. You can talk about anything you want. I don't hold

anybody back on this show. Discuss whatever's on your mind. Curious if regular Joe or well, let's start with regular Joe, regular Joe Shakespeare, any of those thoughts lately, any anything about that, that conversation or anything to add Okay, I guess not wow, Okay, now I'm looking at my call set up here, P Pete, looks like we did we lose. No, we still have Captain Trips with us, but he might not be

available now Trips. No, I'm here, I'm here. Okay, Sorry, I got confused for a moment there because I all of a sudden didn't see regular Joe and you had been moved over to the side. Anything to add I mean, Jimmy James has lately mentioned poetry and william S. Well, I don't have anything to add to that, but I needed I forgot. I was in the middle of a thought and then we got onto something

else and I never got the thought out. I just wanted to go back to what my my I had originally said I were starting to say about my concern with Trump possibly picking the wicked witch of the East. I guess because Hillary Clinton is the wicked witch of the West. I don't know. I've lost track ant Hillary is. How is Hillary the wicked witch of the West? I thought she came from Arkansas, didn't she? Kay? And I guess she's the wicked witch of the Ozarks? Okay, Well, I mean

was that she lives in New York? Now in that Well, that's got her, That's right. My main concern with with the former governor Haley is what worries me because it it really looks like they're not going to get any of these charges to stick to him. And it also looks like and I'm not making any comments about whether I agree disagree, I'm just just kind of reading the teleies and I don't see any of the other current crop of Republican

candidates being able to beat him in the primary. What worries me if they attach Haley to him as the vice president, they get him into office, they immediately bring him up on impeachment charges and quite frankly, I think there's enough Republicans that don't like him that they would impeach him, and we are stuck with President Haley. Yeah, and that, well that that scares me more than any of the other ones. Well, she's in my own opinion.

I think that was my thought. Okay, I think you have nothing to worry about there, and I'm going to tell you why. I hope you're right. A couple of reasons. One, in recent days now, she's kind of doubled down, straight up called Trump a liar and everything else in public. And that's the kind of thing that he personally doesn't matter if he's Trump the politician, Trump the real estate guy or whatever. As soon as you start calling him out in public for he in a pos for any

reason, guess what, you aren't working with him no more. Uh, good point. I urge you to witness the lawyers that simply disagreed with his strategy, the the the trail of tears that is in the law profession at this point, all the lawyers they got dismissed from the various Trump teams. You know, once you come out in public and say something like that,

it is the sin that has never forgiven. I know she said that, so that I mean personally, it looks like what's his name, Ramaswami is positioning himself as the potential VP. But I also heard that Trump himself made mention of the Congress the congresswoman out of New York, what is a Staphonic

or Stephanic I think is her last name? You know what, the or et least at least at least Stephonic, you know, would be a fascinating you know, it would be a fascinating and really really intensely interesting pick if somebody convinced Trump to do it. Because Tim Scott, who has now you know, suspended his campaign, made it a point to come out and basically endorsed Trump ahead of New Hampshire in recent and yeah, I saw that that would be an interesting pick. He picks a black guy to be his vice

president, It's perfect. It's like, oh, you want to kill me, racist, I have a black guy. He's a vice president. He'll say it every day, And quite frankly, you could make the same argument if he picks the congress Roman from New York because she's a female, And you might even be able to stretch it with ramas Swami, because who in the hell ever thought we would have a potential presidential candidate with the last name

of Ramaswami. Yeah, let's be honest. No fair enough, But Ramaswami I think has too much of an ego to accept second fiddle, although other people have said he's kind of positioning himself for that. But I think Tim Scott is the perfect boot licker to be the vice presidential candidate. Besides that, I mean, in a weird way, he's already kind of had a female vice president and after all, uh, you know point, I'm gonna

I'm gonna leave that good boy. But a black guy that would throw a monkey wrench into a whole lot of people's problems with him, and it would be a direct a front to the MSM attacks on him. Trump is racist, Trump is racist. Well I gotta have a black guy. He's a vice presidential candidate. And of discussion, even Don Lemon would have to say on on Twitter, X now I can, I can, I can hear Rachel Maddow's head exploding currently? I love it. I actually I actually like

that. I hope he does it. To be quite honest with that would be and that would be good. And what has Tim Scott done. He has absolutely consistently defended Trump all along. Right, So on a personal level, Tim Scott's an acceptable pick, and he's he's fairly well spoken. I mean I heard him in the debates. I don't agree with a lot of his positions, but that's really not the question. And he's well spoken. He seems to be fairly p popular, at least in South Carolina. Right,

So that's a good thought. I didn't really think about that. But and crushes and undermines the whole South Carolina theme with Haley. Yep, yes it does, you know. And the only difference is, yeah, they have different experiences, but you can't say that Tim Scott wasn't somewhat experienced too. I mean, he's no less experience than guess what Mike kents so exactly, he definitely has the he would definitely be able to maintain that Christian conservative

vote. That's it. And that's the thing. I think. It's actually an intelligent pick. Now, that doesn't mean it's going to happen because I'm nice, you know, I know I'm crazy, So no, I mean, you might be crazy, but you're not wrong on this one. I'll

tell you that could be crazy, but not wrong. Thank you. I appreciate that anyway, BP, Before we go to our next caller, what do you think of that though, I mean, I think that Captain Tripps has nothing to worry about as far as you know, Trump selecting Haley, especially because she's saying that, you know, he's a liar, and he's also afraid to debate her in recent days. This is what her statements are, right, So he's afraid to debate me because I'm gonna call him a

liar on stage. I'm gonna call him out on his lies. And that is exactly what you say to Trump to make sure you don't work for him anymore. So, I mean, it doesn't matter if you're on the Apprentice or if you're you know, work in real estate deals in Queen's, it doesn't matter. I think there's no way Haley is going to be the VP. She has definitely decided that is not her course of action. Now, she might be looking to run in twenty eight. That might be something that

she's looking at seriously. But Tim Scott, I think is a fun pick. That would be something that would shut a lot of people down as far as their general attacks on Trump, what do you think of that VP? Before we go to the next caller, Tim Scott would be a good choice, if I'm not mistaken. Was now I was gonna say, Nikki Haley, someone appointed Tim Scott to his position and then he ran. I think he'd be a good choice for those of us that really don't care for Trump,

you know, really wouldn't make any difference. I wouldn't vote for him just because he had Tim Scott as a VP pick. But yeah, and also based on this last interview of Nikki Haley, can we start referring to

her as the little brown girl as she refers to herself. So I thought that was someone's gonna run with that call of racist for for using the same terminology she did when she was talking about growing up the little brown girl, which speaks a lot for the for the for the attitude of South Carolina. I mean, you know, they've had an Indian American as their governor. Very South Carolina is not like it was years ago. They've really become more,

I think, more progressive than North Carolina. But yet they still hold tight to a lot of conservative things that North Carolina has given up. A while back, so it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. But I think Timscott to make a great choice. Yeah, brass tacks.

I think South Carolina is still kind of classic conservative in general, but they're progressive as far as you know, not being part of the backwards ass part of being conservatives, you know, which, which is the way I would put it in the middle of Alabama right right, or or other places not far from me, just you know, I could probably throw a baseball at it. Anyway. It is what it is, and we are what we're doing here, so I think it's right about the right time to hear

from this caller. It looks like we got Harlan on the line, and I think he was on there before we went to break, but hopefully he hasn't fallen asleep on me. Harlan, what's on your mind? I know you've been listening, and what do you got to say about all this? Op? Maybe we don't. It appears as though I have Harlan on the line, but I don't know. HM shouldn't be muted and he can mute himself. Could be, Harlan, you could be talking to your mute button.

I'm gonna just go for a quick mic check to Jimmy James then, just to make sure our phone lines are operating properly. Jimmy, you hear me, right, Yeah, there you go. So we can hear Jimmy and Jimmy can hear us. Just hang on, Jimmy. I might come back to you real quick, especially if we can't get Harlan on the line. Let's try one more time. Harlan, Okay, I don't know if you can hear us, but we cannot hear you. Maybe you put your phone down, I'll put you back on hold, and perhaps you'll come back

around or call back in. I'm not sure which, but either way, all right, So continuing on, be Pete, anything else you want to cover? Or shall we continue on with this discussion about the GOP. Should we go back to Jimmy James? What do you think, my co host? We go back to Jimmy. I'm just sitting here trying to decide where I'm gonna put my bet money on the NFL this weekend. Oh, well, what do we got going on there? By the way, We're down

to playoffs right? The wild card was last week? I think? Yeah, Divisional round now you got, you got San Francisco going against Green Bay, Detroit just going against Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Bills are playing the Chiefs. It's gonna be interesting, and oh crap, the Ravens and the Texans, and out of those they'll move on to the next round next weekend. So you'll have two AFC, two NFC teams played to see who's going to the super Bowl. Well, I don't know why, but I feel like,

and don't ever bet with me, because I will pick. And by the way, if you want to know who's to win the Super Bowl, ask me and then bet against it, because I have only picked a Super Bowl correctly three times in my entire life, and I've tried to pick a winning team since what nineteen seventy nine. Anyway, anyway you go about it, it's hard to pick. I mean, you know, I think the lines are gonna take care of Tampa Bay and get them out of the way.

Packers and Packers in San Francisco. That's a tough call. I think San Francisco might come out on top of that because they're playing in San Francisco, Bills and Chiefs. That's going to be an interesting game because they're playing in Buffalo. Oh, playing in Buffalo, they're going to be Exans. But out of that, I couldn't even down to, you know, eight teams. I can't really figure who's going to be going to the Super Bowl. The one that worries me is the Chiefs fields. Yeah, that could

go the way. Well, here's the thing, playing in Buffalo. Now, they they did postpone the game per snow this week, right, and then they had to play it on Monday or something. Kansas City used to playing in the snow. I mean, they've had a lot of games in their own stadium where snow's been blowing sideway. So it's but it's not Buffalo snow. That's you know, it's not You play Buffalo at home is tough. And that's where the Chiefs messed up by losing out towards the end of

the regular season. They lost home field advantage and uh now they got it to travel. So it's going to be interesting to see how they do with Buffalo. But that's gonna be the toughest one for me to make a call off. Well, yeah, so the Lions got I think San Francisco is going to be the Packers who knows. Last week's game of the Packers was good, but I don't know if they can stand up San Francisco. In

San Francisco see that Buffalo Chiefs game. I would favor Buffalo, but I might be right about this because it is tough to play Buffalo at home in this time of year. It is. It is Buffalo's last week. Buffalo had a good game, so it's gonna be interesting. Kansas City is not the team it was a year ago. They've got injuries, They've gotten to Mahomes and have beat him up a little bit, so I'm curious to see what's gonna happen. I'm thinking the Bills are gonna pull that one off.

Yeah, it could. It makes sense to me because again, Buffalo is tough to play at home at this time of year. They always have been, and that that that's just a standard. But of course I'm the guy who bet on them every time. When they lost the Super Bowl, Okay, I kept thinking they would win every single time. I picked the Bills four times. When they lost. I think it was so you know, but still, I've been to Buffalo and I'll tell you that snow there is

unlike any other place I've ever been. The cold weather is unlike any other place I've ever been, and the people that live there are accustomed to it, unlike any other place I've ever been. Now, true, I haven't been to some of the frozen countries in Europe, et cetera, et cetera. But just telling you, man, it's unique. I used to I used to go ice fishing or fishing on the Niagara River in February with my stepfather. And yeah, that that is a cold like like you can't.

I can't describe it. I don't. I don't anyway. Yeah, the first time I went to Buffalo and ever set foot there, I'm not sure if I touched the ground because I was riding in the back of the truck. I jump out of the back of the truck and I was about up to my waist in snow. And it was crazy, like, how is it you pulled into a place and there is that much snow behind the box truck? How the hell did you even do that? I don't know anyway, this guy must have backed into a snow bank just to screw with me,

I'm thinking, but maybe maybe not. I know this much. I looked at the place I said, crap. We went, We drove all this way from Jersey and there's no way they're gonna put on a show. This town is not going to move today. I doubt the restaurants are open. Well, we go find a place to sit down, get a cup of coffee and eat. And it was open. People were there, and by the time the afternoon came around, yeah, they had taken care of it. People were moving around and the show was fine, no problems.

It was like nothing happened. And I'm telling you, it was like two feet of snow and I'm going, what the hell? I never seen people do this before. And they looked at me like I was crazy taking that nobody was going to show up. And that was for a local show in

Buffalo. I forget the name of the place, but it was some common club name, you know, the whatever outrageous name place, and you know, with all the crazy directions and a bunch of things up from the seventies, a disco ball still tucked up in the ceiling, you know, kind of joint. And yeah, those kids came out for a metal show that started at like six pm. When we got there at about noon, and it looked to me like nothing was going to move that day or for several

days in that town. So Buffalo's different sort of place. Jimmy James, We're gonna go back around to you and maybe try and get to Harlan next but uh, anything you want to add, I know you might have something to say about that Lions thing. Uh. BP thinks the Lions are gonna win this round. You think they're gonna go all the way? Jimmy James, what's up? Oh? Yes, they will win a heading to the Big Bowl. So you're saying super bowieve or may not be called chuckles.

Uh, you know what, you might be right, which is like a comedy club part of the week and a music club another part of the week. I think that sounds about right. That sounds correct and bubba yeah, okay, good. Oh I'm the BP thing. I'm gonna say, Yeah, you've got no worries with daily and now here you learn the correct Jimmy James answer and the VP pick. You know, Trump's already said he knows

who he's picking, right. I think that's just a psychological trick to make everyone on their best behavior, though, or to make them drop their pretext on because if he already made his selection, then nobody else is buying for the job. He's just not announcing it. But you know, I doubt that that's true because he couldn't. He can't help himself put announce something like that if he knows it for sure. I'm thinking, Jimmy, what do you think? I'm pretty sure he's got it down fifty to fifty. I

think it could go two ways. Here's the real choice. It ain't Dan Quayle, and ain't the black guy from South Carolina an ant the thirty year old swami and the correct answer Senator Ted Kruz or equally possible Governor Christy Noman. And also i'd ever got my real parts down about Shakespeare. But I'll let you guys toss around what I just said. Well, no problem, We'll go to Harlan next. But go ahead and hit your Shakespeare thing if you want, because I got you. If you think that's the pick Ted

Cruz, that would be that would be a wild pick. I don't know how he could square that exactly. Didn't cruise good? What do you mean? Well? I thought Ted Cruz is sup bordered. Yeah, but it just seems too establishment for him to pick him. He's not a senator. Ted Cruz is not an you think he is. But he's not that guy in Florida Rubio if that's what you're think. No, No, he's not

Rubio. I'm not saying that at all. But last of the people that were elected in Yeah, but the last of the two any party people that went fully into the GOP fold, right, is Ted Cruz. That's why he's still there. Wow, why he's still there. He's there because the voters too. And actually it's in for the fight of his life because well, surprise, surprise, his district has been solely filled with new people. Anyway. And Shakespeare, Uh, yeah, I think it's creed to me.

You're called that time that was very big about all these girls and other idiots put on their Facebook to thy unknown, to thine own self be true. I remember you never why I raged one that permitted a chat because it's stupid, because it means exactly the opposite of what they think it. I don't recall it. But but but I agree with your sentiment. Yeah, it's the Uh, it's definitely the misunderstood idealism that comes of it, you

know, much like in the eye of the Beholder and all that. People have very very miss misplaced ideas about what these things really meant when you put them in context with where they came from. Pulling them out of context and you know, turning them into something else is one thing, and that's what they've done. But they somehow think they're making an illusion. Yeah, that's kind of the Bible in that way when you see it. Mm hmm. Yeah, people that misuse the people, right, People misuse a lot of

things from the Bible the same way. And there are some people that believe that it is the character whoever it may have been, that was William Shakespeare that might have written the King James Bible as well, you know, translated it into that similar type language. Uh. There there are some people that say that as well. Right tells me Willie was busy at the time. Mm hmm. But my main grape is, of course, everybody's favorite uh

parked the maligned world Shakespeare there, And I'm sure you love this. What's your favorite part of Shakespeare? Let me guess what do we do first? Chuck? Uh, you tell me, man I I I I've got, you know, odd ideas about what I appreciate about Shakespeare. Again, I liked the Sonnets a lot, and there they were. There, they were loaded with unique images that people just pass right on by and just you know,

take at their surface level and never think about. But they were very complex in their construct and had a lot more to say aside from the typical well you know, high school level analysis most people give to it. And uh so, so that's that's me. Outside of that, I mean, you know plays, I mean, Hamlet as Pedestrian as it is is my favorite among them. So, oh, you know your favorite quote. I can hear you saying it right now, what do we do first? First

of all the lawyers, right, yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, And Harlem's going, amen, Amen, he's on hold right now, going amen, that's right. I don't know, let's try to find that. Let's try and find that. Of course, you remember which you can't remember the person the in the book that said that Ama correctly with Satan and of course this is always they, of course Stalin and Hitler. Yeah, first of all, you do kill all the lawyers, because of course,

in the absence the law, there is no freedom. You just live by day by day like a cave man. I guess okay. Well, the most bizarre truths in the world are often told by the most evil people because or the most evil characters in literature, they often have a seemingly uninterrupted stream

of consciousness that sometimes cuts right to the root of many issues. And indeed, I see some of the greatest truths in literature told by those characters who believe themselves a hero in their own narratives, and they are usually the evil ones. It's quite often you'll get some profound truths from those characters. So yeah, I still stand by that that's still a good idea. Doesn't mean that what they do with it afterwards is good, but yeah, that's me.

What can I say? Let me put you on hold and see if we can get to hear from Harlan directly this time. And Harlan, I've joined you back in, but we couldn't hear you last time. Maybe we got you this time. How are you, sir? Okay? Still no Harlan anyway, meat Pete. I don't know what's going on with Harlan. Maybe he put his phone down or something. Let's check in one more time,

Harlan. Harlan, I put you back on all right? Well, hopefully he's okay, and he's not, you know, caught up in some snow somewhere or gotten into a scuffle at the awful Waffle, because you know, that kind of thing happens to him on the road or could happen to him on the road as he travels. I do wish you to be safe, Harlan. I hope everything's okay. I'm not hearing any sound from you. All right, Let's see our phone lines are working. Everything seems to

be working. Harlan, one more time, maybe are you there? Nope, Okay, I'm just gonna put you on hold. And how much time do we have left? Jeez, let's see, we got about a half hour, so beat Pete. What else should we cover? Should we go back around to Captain Trips? What's on your mind? We go back around to Captain. I think I've got my bets settled now, so we're gonna let things ride and see if we're making a little money this weekend. Ah. Well, what is the odds with the Chiefs and Bills? By the

way, I mean, do they have any odds? Are you going with even bets or are you trying that now? Predicted? Have you seen the predicted website. By the way, I don't do We're I bet football. I bet football. Forget the odds. We got a group of guys that get together and we start at the beginning of the playoffs, and the first round of off is twenty bucks each person per game. Then the next round goes up to fifty, then the next round goes up to seventy five.

Then Super Bowl usually it's one hundred. Everybody puts in nice and I mean it's just a way that way, you know, you can play odds if you want. With the online betting now, I have no idea how they're setting odds. It's become big business. And everybody hears complaining in this state because we legalize online betting, but we don't have a portal for it yet and all this crap. So you know, figure they won't at you get a poker game going in your house and they control video poker. But online

betting is fine because they're sponsoring our elections. You know that that's the mistake of the guys who control those machines that are in the various convenience stores that nobody's supposed to pay attention to. Right, I love it there's a couple of convenience stores near me that are clearly places that are set up just for those machines, because the stuff that's sitting on the shelf has clearly been sitting on the shelf a long time. Uh, And the whole purpose of the

place, it's just those machines. Yeah, it's kind of key here because it depends on the county, and it depends on the county prosecutor and the sheriff. Some counties have cracked down on them. Some counties say, okay, we'll let you operate, but you can only have certain games. Then you got other places that says, okay, you can operate because we got bigger stuff to worry about. You're illegal, and we're letting you know you're

illegal, but we're not coming out a bus unless we have problems. Some counties, the only reason the place get shut down is because they end up getting robbed in the middle of the night. So various counties, various rules. Some places you can go in and they've got every kind of game you could possibly play. A lot of it is just online computer stuff now, But I play the old the old video poker machines, the old ones, not this new stuff. I don't even I don't even put my money in

them. But it's it's amazing how much money is generated at these places. And yet the law is you're not supposed to be able to redeem for cash. You can redeem for merchandise and things like that. So and one guy got real creative. He started giving away different sized Teddy Bears and then he would buy the Teddy Bear back from you and pay you in cash. So, I mean a thousand guys staying up at night figuring out how to get around the law. Yeah, I love it. Their care yet. Yeah,

casinos at Cherokee. We're getting ready to open up another casino up here here Roanoke, Virginia, somewhere on the our side. Two other tribes are trying to put in. So we have allowed casinos, we have the lottery, we have powerball, now, we have online sports betting. But they won't settle the question on the video pogram machines. It's crazy. And the reason they don't do it is because it's so hard to keep up with the

tax that it would generate. You know, they said, oh, there's no way that we could do this, Well, yeah, there is. Every one of those machines gives you an internal run. It tells you how what bills were put in it, what denomination, what it hit on, what the payout was, what the daily register is on the whole thing. So it would be very easy to do taxes on it, but it would

involve a lot of hours to keep up with it. With the number of machines, they don't have the personnel to go around and and force stuff. So, you know, but online betting, see, these guys are giving their contributions to the legislators every time they run. So yeah, we're gonna allow. We're gonna allow it. Now online betting is the next big thing.

Well, you know what's funny is if you just added the enforcement arm to the lottery commissioned people, it would take very little expansion in personnel to handle it, and it would probably collect more than scratch off tickets in a hurry if they did it that way, and even a little more it would be a little more intricate in trying to keep up and enforce a bunch of

video pogram machines. You think about years ago, the way the organized groups would get into the jukebox business or slot machine business and it's eating with the number of machines in this state, it would take some personnel to have to go over the books and make sure they're being the right amount of taxes on

what they're taking in. Yeah, but it would be real simple if you have lottery commissioned people that stop by at all of those places generally speaking, right, and you basically have them have to be licensed and have their machines hooked into a network same way that the lottery machines are. End a story, you have an unregistered machine against seized. That's that's how you go about it. And guaranteed a lot of people would immediately sign up to get those

licenses, which would create a sudden burst of revenue right away. And then yeah, you could easily collect and do it remotely most of the time, and you can see in real time things being collected and everything else, just like the lottery machines do. It's not that hard. Gtech has that stuff. I mean, that's old technology, but I know it's all technology.

If you want in the machine to be able to go and nice machines as possibility, and people wouldn't play them if they think the there's a chance somebody could get in there and tell that machine what to hit and what not to hit. People will stop, They'll go find something else put their money off. Well yeah, maybe so leap, I know, okay, maybe so. So with all that in mind, uh geez, let's see, I'm checking at the phone lines again. Let's see if we got anybody else on.

Looks like we might. Well, let's see who's on there, quick check. No, so far, Harlan's still hanging on the line, but I haven't heard from him yet. Got Jimmy James hanging there, and we still got Captain trips with us, I think. So. Anyway, we got about twenty three minutes left here in the show, and we are going to end abruptly so we can get to Aaron Franz on the other side of the hour. So if you want to join us three one nine, five,

two seven five zero one six. I'm just thinking there's a way to integrate it into the Lottery Commission without too much trouble. It could be done, all right. Look at use Cherokee as an example. Cherokee Casino, for the most part when it opened up, was all video poker, video slot scenes, video poker machines, those things are all hooked up in the house. When you get there, they give you a a swipe card and

you put your money in. It tells you how much you put in, and at the end of the year they send you a ten ninety nine for all your winnings for you to declare on you and pay on your taxes. You could do that these video poker machines, but you would have to have a central processing place that would be able to handle the electronic data coming in and be able to go through it, because they would not only if they had to report to the state what they were doing, they would also have

to report to the state who won what. Now video poker machines, now, some of these places will only pay Let's say you hit them for two thousand bucks, they'll only pay you out five hundred dollars a day, So you're going back there for three more days to get what you won from them on the first day. And a lot of them say that cuts down on the chance of us being robbed because we don't have to have large cash amounts

in here to pay out a ten thousand dollars win. So, and they make a point, but they don't stop you from putting whatever you want into that machine, so if you do hit, you know it's I got into an argument with one on one time I hit for about twenty five hundred dollars. Well, we only pay out five hundred dollars a day. I said, well, you had no problem with me putting eight hundred in that machine before it hit. He says, yeah, I will point. I said, well, I want my money, Well you can get it, but

I only pay five hundred dollars a day. I said, I didn't put my money in there over the course of four days. He says, well, I could keep track of it and issue you a ten ninety nine for tax purposes. I said, well, I got no problem with that if you keep track of how much money I put in there on the times I came in here and didn't hit, because my losses could be greater. I said. But here's the problem. You get. Some old, blue haired old lady comes in here with a twenty. She puts it in a machine.

She hits for three hundred bucks. She made three hundred off of twenty. You pay her. She goes out the door. I come in here and put five hundred dollars in this machine. I hit it for six hundred dollars, You're only gonna pay me five hundred, and I gotta come back tomorrow for the other hundred. You're only down one hundred with me because I put five hundred in it. You're paying out six. But with her, she put in a twenty and she walked out with two hundred and eighty dollars

profit. But she got hers today. And you know, I said, it's just not right. If you're gonna regulate how much you pay out, then you got to regulate how much people put in. Yeah. See. But the argument there, of course, is that the lottery doesn't because you can go and hit the lottery for two three hundred bucks and walk out like you said, and nobody reports anything. Uh, you go over five hundred dollars in most states, then guess what, you can't even get your cash

payout? Right, you gotta it's like five hundred six ten, it's over, it's over. It's over five hundred dollars. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna be able to cast that in store. Over a certain amount of winnings, you have to pay tax on, right, and if you hit big, you know, lottery agency, you have to catch that in at the office, and they do all the subsequent paperwork, and you pay taxes on it out and they get they pull their taxes off the top, of course,

but that's what I'm saying. Though, you win five hundred bucks, so you can walk away. I've seen guys turn around and, by the way, sell it to the store. There's another thing people do so they don't end up with anything on their taxes. They'll go, look, just give me the five hundred. You can keep the other you know, it's a seven hundred dollars one or whatever. Yes, true with the state.

Also, like let's say if you've got a let's say you've got an unpaid violation or something, or you have a paid you have a lapse of insurance fine of fifty bucks from DMV or child child supports a good one for payments, or you owe something else, or you for state taxes from four years ago. Before they give you your winnings, they make sure the state doesn't have any claim on anything, because if they do, they take that out.

Then also, oh yeah, so a lot of people with somebody else to cash in the ticket give them one hundred out of the eight hundred that they wont just so they can walk away with seven and nobody's making them pay for those past fins they haven't paid, right, It's great. It's it's like selling food stamps almost yep, yep, same thing. You know. Most people do that at about fifty cents on the dollar, and that's the way it is. And even with these cards, people have figured out how

to do it. It was a lot easier with the paper ones. But even with the cards, people have figured out how to make those transfers. So it is what it is. So look, we've got about seventeen minutes left, and I think it would be a good time to get around everybody's final words, final thoughts for the week. I want to remind everybody who is on the membership list at ocheli dot com that I need an email from

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some other things. Got about five hundred extra dollars I got to pay out right away, so any support will go towards that and my well being and trying not to freeze to death while we're dealing with the cold snap here in the Southeast is also something you'll be helping me do. So with that, I want to turn it over to to my co host. I guess we should get around to Harlan has an open line, by the way, and he's not responding at all, so I haven't heard from him. I don't

know what's going on. I hope he's okay. We still got Jimmy James on the phone line, and Captain Tripps might still be with us as well on the skype. Looks like he is. We lost regular Joe. But let's get around to everybody. Be Pete what he say? Where should we start? Oh well, I guess you could go a verse order. We'll start with Jimmy and work all way backwards. There we go. So Jimmy James, let's get you on the line. And little delay who It just

made me click on something I didn't want to click on. Hold on, hold on, I got an echo one two three, one. Okay, that's gone, Jimmy. I think you're back on the line, So uh, go ahead and shout out whatever you want to shout out here before we're done. Oh well, it is sorry you didn't get out, Harley. What in the world. Maybe it's just trying to listen to the show. Could be could be either way. I hope he's all right. That's weird. Yeah, go ahead, Jimmy. Yeah, and the rest at least

less all your life. All right, so go ahead, Jimmy. Yeah, that's negative seven degrees, so always good luck to the Lions. Have just scrowing the Buccaneers. It's gonna be fun. God bless the mark, absolutely, Jimmy. I can't argue with your sentimentality there. Let's hope everybody who is hearing the sound of my voice right now receives a blessing. I hope all of you do. Actually, it's time. I think we all need to do better this year. I started out the year a little rough

myself. Other people are reporting that, but let's see where it all goes. I think we can all do better. Captain Trips, anything on your mind before we close out this show, all right, just a couple little things. One, it's currently fifty five degrees, but it is going down to forty tonight in thirty eight tomorrow night. So I'm right in there with you, Jimmy James, I know we're I'm pretty close to that negative seven. Sorry, I couldn't resist, no good conversation. I'm pulling for the

Buccaneers because my Jags fell apart in the second half of the season. And quite frankly, they were just a disappointment. So I was hoping for the Dolphins, but then they froze to death in Kansas City, and then I was going back to my Steelers, and well, we saw what the Steelers did, So right now I'm going with the Buccaneers, although I don't think they're gonna pull it off. I'm mainly pulling for anybody but the Ravens, and that's more just a family dispute. I want to throw one thing out

there, Chuck. I don't know or if any of you are all familiar with this yet. Has anyone looked into or heard anything about this guy name? I think it's David Rogers. Web released a self published e book called The Great Taking Take a look into It. I've read it. It's it's, it's it's making the rounds. I think Kathain Austin Fitz has addressed it. Chris Martinston definitely has addressed it. Lou Rockwell dot Com had a good

article on it, and a couple of people on the Brownstone Institute. It's I can't really get into it for on a two second thing, but take a look at it. I think it would be an excellent discussion and glad I like everyone's thought about about Nicky Haley not not quite full in the post. I never thought about Ted Cruz though, that's an interesting thought. Although I still like your thought about Tim Scott, Chuck. I think that's about

it. Yeah, I think that would make it enjoyable, and like I said, it would be, it would be actually a very well placed strategic middle finger. It's very strategic and it makes you wonder if if it's not in the works. But I noticed that as well, that that he came out immediately endorse him for president. So it's a thought. It's definitely a thought. But I am actually going to cut off because I got some work here. I need to get done, Chuck, you and I need to.

We'll touch base touch base offline next week. Yeah, we're definitely going to have to. I'm going to update you on what what's actually gone on. Might seek your advice a little bit, but you know, but it's it's been an interesting couple of weeks. Let me put it to you that way, all right. I know I've been I've been kind of in communicato, but then I think I've been working. I don't know, I've lost track. I totally understand when Look, when you're putting in seventy eighty one

hundred hours a week, you know pull. I'm pulling between sixty and seventy every week next, next couple of weeks. This week was a seventy two hour I'm finishing up my seventy two hours this week, next, the next two weeks after that get better, though. I'm back to only about fifty hours a week, which is kind of where I want to be. So stay warm, everybody. The cold weather is nothing to mess around with.

I'm glad I don't have to deal with it like I used to. But my heart goes out to all of you who are dealing with it, and we'll talk soon. Right Thanks to Captain Tripps. Appreciate you for joining us, and always you're welcome. You know the way it is right now, it's about thirty degrees according to what I got here, which is weird because it's colder in Georgia than it is in Florida by a bit. Yeah, so yeah, I think I think this system is kind of right above us,

and we're just getting the fringes of it. So it seems to happen with the last one. Though. Last week we got nailed with almost a tropical storm for the one day it was actually kind of wild, just got flooded with rain. Yeah, we've had freezing conditions come in and out,

you know. For the past week. I've been having a hell of a time just trying to keep the heat up because you know, look, I could sit in isolate in one room and stick the dogs in there with me if I wanted to, but I got other people here, so right right, Yeah, the other thing I got, I got seven puppies I gotta get rid of, which, by the way, Uh, just for everybody's knowledge, poor port Buster has been fixed, so there won't be any more

of this odd mini mighty mutts coming out of the Ocelli house unless he knocked up. I hope he didn't, But I hope he didn't knock up a little honey, because if he did, then that means we got one more slew, one more litter to come. And I still got to figure out what to do with these seven little mighty mutts. So uh, I wish I could help you, but I just couldn't do it. Well, you know, it looked to be if you need some dogs, I got them, just telling you, and I'd love to send them to some loving homes

if anybody is in the area, especially in Georgia or something. If you're listening, I know a couple people do. Yeah, I have the Mini Mighty Mutts and they are very cool and they're a special kind of breed. So uh, I'll keep it. I'm keeping an eye. I haven't I haven't seen anybody, and it's looking for a puff. But if I if I catch somebody, I will let you know. There you go. All right, thanks man, appreciate it anyway, Take care, gentlemen, have

a good night. Chaptain trips, so be pete. I'll give you the last few minutes here. I've already kind of made my statement about what I want to say regarding you know, get get in on o'helly dot com. Course, any help over there is appreciated. If you make a contribution, it is extremely appreciated. Right now, trying to keep warm, trying to keep fed, trying to keep going here, and like I said, there are bills to pay, and I've been paying them, but man, it

is getting harder, just like it is for all of you. So if you have the ability to chip in at o'chelly dot com. So be Pete, what's on your mind? Close it out. You got about six minutes, it's yours. Well I'm not gonna take all six because I'm gonna give you a break between now and when Aaron comes on at the top of the hour. So so what I have to say is kind of short. Everybody, just stay as warm as you can. I know it's tough out there.

I've noticed a lot of places have opened up more shelters this year than they had available last year, so that a lot of the people that are on the street can have a warm place to go and get out of the elements. But you know, it's that time of year. We're gonna have to deal with it now for another month or so. And here in North Carolina, you know, we're lucky. We have fridging cold one day and

sixty five the next day. So you know, for what you if you're worried about spending too much running your heat pump, your airc will be kicking in in the next couple of days. So just you know, there is that that factor. Other than that, I want everybody to out there to

support your local food banks. They're getting hit pretty hard. There's been and I've seen an increase in the amount of trucks that are going to further away destinations to people that can't make it into town to get to the food bank. Uh, they'll find some someplace out there in the middle of the boonies and they'll get word out through the community and on radio and that that they'll be at such and such places, such and such time, and they're bringing

vegetables and can goods and and things to help people get through. It's really getting tight out there. I know the mainstream media likes to pump the fact that we've got low unemployment and you know, people are out there working and people working two jobs. Has gotten even worse. There's a lot of people out there that are off the grid. They're not participating in the workforce. You know, we've got a lot of rural people that are used to farming

and is an economy and is getting harder on them. So, you know, keep an eye out for your neighbors, support your food banks, any of these organizations, through any churches that you belong to. You know, do what you can to help them out. And it's really tough right now. We get through this next year, of all the politics and going on, I don't see any change in anything. You know, interest was up again last month another four and a half percent. So they're telling everything's rosy

and every thing's working out, everything's working its way back down. But until I start seeing prices come down in a grocery store, I don't believe a word of it. You know that that affects people more than a lot of other things. Gas, keat and food. I mean, those are the three basic things that people are struggling with right now. So do its can to help them out. And join us again next week on Friday, where we will provide a couple hours of entertainment for four airing kicks things off at

ten o'clock. There. You will see you next week. Appreciate it. B Pete. Always happy to have you along, and I'm glad that you are along with me because I don't think I could do this by myself. And you know, just to tail onto what you said, I mean, in this area, it's like a couple of cans of beans and a bag of rice is about all anybody's getting from a food bank right now. That's where a family of three, literally like three cansabans and a bag of rice

and like a bag of discarded chips from some you know place. This is what I've seen. It is what it is. This is where we're at, and unfortunately we are not going to do well if we're waiting for a savior to show up and say, hey, I'm from the government. I'm here to help. So no matter who you are, where you are, when you are, I am merely Ocellian. All of you