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It's honestly, it's hard to know what to talk about. I was thinking recently about religion, maybe something that you know, not exactly my specialty. I'm not the most religious person myself, and that I don't have a and no particular religion do I say I am a member of I don't ascribe to one certain religion. So I'm not a religious person. I'm not a Christian, I'm not a Muslim, I'm not a Buddhist, I'm not a anything.
I don't think that makes me unusual in the modern world. In today's world, like, there's plenty of people who are not adherents of any given religion, and that's the norm. Now that's really neither here nor there as far as I'm concerned. I know for a lot of people that's a big problem though, and lots of religions come with the ministerial side of it.
Is like you you join the ministry and go and find new new followers right, and all sorts of It's funny to sort of like newer forms of quasi Christian religions, that religions based off of Christianity, like like the Mormon Church, they take the ministry aspect of their religion and it's it's like a huge
aspect of it. Okay, you become a conscript at young age where you're forced to go around doing it. We all know that, we all know the the it's like a cliche of the Mormon riding around on a bicycle through the neighborhood trying to you know, knocking on doors and stuff, so that all the way to them going overseas and doing their missionary work that way.
So that's you know, that's a part of religion. It's interesting, It's I find it fascinating that every religion does absolutely have an esoteric side to it. There's like an occult nature to every religion. And then obviously the exoteric interpretation of the religion generally would be what I say, the way that I look at that is, well, does your average person who is let's say Christianity, what's your average person who is a Christian say, how is it
that they describe their religion. What is it that they have to say about you know, the important, the important, the gods and all the different characters. Really, but then their religion, was it that they have to say about that? What does a Christian have to say about Jesus Christ? How do they define Jesus Christ? Who was that? Who is Jesus? What did he do? What happened to him? You know, the whole story. Obviously, that's the basis of Christianity, is the story of Jesus.
So I would just contend that Christianity is not in any way unusual in having an esoteric side to the entire religion. And to my mind, that's just you know, that's just of course, and it's not a problem and as funny as I see the way that things work out. And I'm not a master theologian. I don't know really much about any given religion, to be honest, So I'm not claiming to be an expert at anything or even
to really know a whole lot. But I will say just generally that and this is all anecdotal, just based on me, like looking at everybody around me, my entire life. So I think what I'm going to describe here is probably just all anecdotal. I don't think I'll get too far beyond that to take it for what it is. But I would say that like when occult, just the word pops up to the average American, it's it's like a scary thing. It's like, oh, it's scary. It's like,
oh, what is that. It's like devil worship, demons, you know, you're doing black magic and an altar like that kind of business. That's the occult that just pops up instantaneously for any American, but alone like a Christian. I think for Christians it appears to be way worse. Like the fear factors, so to speak, is way worse. It's like, ah, they called oh no, God, no, Satan's here, Lucifer, or you're going to be banished to hell. Repent, now come to Jesus
or you will perish, You're going to go to hell. Whatever. You know. For even talking saying like the word a cult or God help you, if you were to say there's a cult aspect of Christianity, you know what I just said, it's sacrilege, And that obviously is just a misinterpretation of the meaning a cult which is hidden. There's a hidden aspect to everything.
Right, there's more to you know, the sermon that you hear on a given Sunday, there's subtext, right, And depending on how good your minister is that's giving the sermon, their level of understanding of you know, that occult side of what they're telling you, and you're free to interpret it however you want. You do have that freedom. But depending on how well versed they are in the religious, the religion that they are ministering, they
should know about the accult side of it. Just you know, they should know more about it. That's all that means. It's like they shouldn't understand like the deep aspects of it, and so and so. I think that it is that you know, and there's always degrees of that. Some people are going to have that knowledge and some don't. A guy who I was I'm always fascinated by who I've had on the show I was lucky to have on the show is Godfrey Reggio, the creator of Koyana Scatzi. It still
blows my mind. I was able to have him on the show. That was awesome. He was a he lived in a Catholic monastery. He was a Catholic monk for a large portion of his young life, and he strikes me as a guy he's like the person that comes to my mind that I don't know anybody who just is able to that even says there's an occult aspect of Christianity. He definitely does say that. Not only does he say that, he speaks about it openly. I can't think of anybody else other than
him that's that's done that. Like, he clearly was a guy who understood the occult side of the Christian religion because he lived it. He was a monk, he was basically he was a brother within the church, right, a brotherhood, a fraternal order essentially, is my understanding of it. He
was like within a fraternal order that was part of the Catholic Church. So anytime you're talking about fraternal orders, you're talking about their cult, right, your initiate into them and you're given a cult knowledge and all of that, right, that part of it. The church has that, and then you
know with the Christian religion you've got the the fractal element of it. Like there's so many denominations, right, so there's the there is the Catholic Church, but any Protestant will be quick to tell you, Martin Luther, we're not part of the Catholic Church. That's something different. And you know, so, I'm pretty sure that any given Protestant, I'm sure a lot of Protestants would be quick to say like, oh, well, even while I'm mentioning Godfrey and him living as a monk, they'd be like, oh,
yeah, well that's the Catholic Church. And there's just another example of why we had to break off from them. Look, they allow the occult. Oh they're evilah blah, blah blah. That's really neither here nor there. It's all the same thing as far as I'm concerned, And I'm not here saying that there's nothing to religion. That's the last thing I would ever say. I think there's a lot to it. I think there's a whole lot
to every religion. And thus the significance of the occult aspect of any given religion, it's like, well, what do you not want to know? Really the deeper meanings of you know, any given part of your religion or the whole of your religion. Do you not wish to know? You know? Or I would think people would, however, to be honest and I don't know if I'm becoming like chysanthropic or what, or if this is just me coming to terms with reality. So most people don't really want to know
much. They don't want to know more, They want to know less. Less is born for them. The less they know, the better. It's too much of a bother to know things. And the exoteric version of their religion is just fine, it's good. It's my argument that the exoteric version of the religion can end up being well, I'll just say it, frankly, it's horrible. And I think we can see that playing out today in
our fine country, in our world, in our country. I mean, if you don't see the problems that religious fundamentals lists are creating in the world, I think pretty much everybody sees that. It's just uh, you know, depending on who you are, you're you're looking at different fundamentalists as a problem. Right, So if you are an American Christian, it's easy to point the finger, your point the finger at Islamic radical fundamentalists. Pretty easy
to do that. Plenty of examples of you know why, we can go after them as an enemy. I'm not saying that they're not that any given religious fundamentalists. If you if you want to point them out as an enemy, that's fine, because religious fundamentalism is dangerous period. Now, as I was saying, easy to label Islamic fundamentalists as an enemy, Fine, whatever, but what about your religion? And for the Evangelical Christians, it's not
just your religion I'm talking about, it's what you're calling our religion. Because the Evangelicals seem to want to push Christianity on the whole of this country, which is a travesty, which is an American first of all, it's it's ridiculous, it's as dangerous, but that's what they're doing. They're telling us this is a Christian nation. And if you're not concerned by that, I don't know what to tell you. I am. I think it's horrible.
Nobody needs to be pushing any religion on anybody, not here in America. This is not a theocracy. We don't have an official state religion. We never have. I know you like to say your those stories. It's always been a Christian nation. Every law is based on Christian values. The Constitution was written by Jesus. So you know, whatever they're saying, I don't.
I can't keep up with this nonsense. Yea, My understanding was that the United States, I think the Constitution says something about this, You're supposed to be able to practice any given religion you want. I don't think that the state was it was expressly forbidden for the state to make any laws about ye stay religion as a state religion, and they can't do that. That
was my interpretation. And again, I don't have the Bill of Rights and the Constitution right in front of me, so I'm not going to even bother reading from it. But come on, it doesn't take an advanced understanding of the founding documents to understand that that's that's how this country works. Right, So you know, we have to endure these nut jobs telling us that this is a Christian nation. And beyond that, they're starting to make laws that
like these ones with the public schools. Was it Louisiana? They have the Ten Commandments on the wall in public public schools. But if it's a private Christian school, fine, you can do whatever the hell you want. That's fine. The private Christian schools are in all kinds of public fe funding now because of these same kooks doing all this stuff and then that raises a question like, well, what is public and what is the private school now public
because of all of this funding going to it. I mean, you can make that argument and say, yeah, okay, take down all the teaching of the Bible. You could say that, But the opposite thing is happening the Christian religion being taught in public schools, which is an abomination. I'm sorry. If you're a Christian, that's fine. I don't have a problem with any religion, but I do have a problem with religions being pushed by the state. Right, it's not a good thing, not good at all.
So I mean, that's the political side of it, and that's my point of view. But maybe we can back up and talk more about the occult and esoteric sides to religion. And I was thinking about this this past week quite a bit. It was popular in my mind, and I'm I'm probably gonna have difficulty even talking about what it is. That a point that I even may be trying to make. But but the I understand what religion does, and it's fascinating to see the similarities, honestly in between between all
the religions. I think that's a really exciting thing when you do the comparative religion thing. I don't understand that's another turn off for people who who are religious in that they have a religion. I find that it seems like people get real upset with the comparative religion thing because then it points out the fact that these are all, that there are similarities, that each religion isn't special.
There isn't one religion that is the religion. But when you've picked a religion, that's I mean, why do you pick a religion unless you believe that it's like, this is the one, this is the one that I need to, you know, fill in that blank. I think everybody kind of fills in that blank for themselves in their own way, based on their own life experiences, and that's why you come to religion. It helps you deal with life, which is fine. We all need something help deal with
this nonsense. So if it's religion, good. But yeah, I'm one of those nuts that I think comparative religion is cool. I think it's exciting. I think it does point out a deeper truth to religions when you see similarities and different things and different concepts pop up again and again, and that they're all functioning to do the same thing. And and and when when a religion is working, it's it's doing that. It's it's giving peace of mind
to a person while they're alive, which is good. You need peace of mind wherever you can get it. Peace be with you. Look at I mean, any given religion has you know so much whether it's Jesus, the Boodle or whatever that they're all saying like do this to find peace, do this, this, and so many different things come back to like, well, this is how you do it, and a piece peace for the world and peace for yourself. And it sounds easy, but it's not. And
so that's the need for these different techniques. I've mentioned my thoughts on reincarnation on past shows, and that's like that's a concept that you'll see pop up all over the place. You know, the ancient Vedic traditions and all that, but in all sorts of different religions of the world, the concept of reincarnation will pop up, and a lot of strange cults will pop up,
like Harry Krishnas and things like that. We're all based off of that old concept of the reincarnation, that what we were reincarnated we're back here again, and the ultimate goal, as they see it, is to break the wheel of reincarnation and ascend us some higher plane of existence and get the hell out of here. Right, It's like, enough of this already. We're reincarnating over and over again. Actually a horrific scenario. And they lay out the
problems of material existence. You're born, and then there's sickness, there's old age and death, and who wants to deal with that? You're dealing with it over and over again if you're being reincarnated. So how does one get out of that? So that's a religious trope, if ever there was one? How do I escape reincarnation? How do I not come back again? And now I'm getting into my own personal thoughts on all of this. It's
really we've really gone into useless territory now. But anyway, my take on this is reincarnation is a fascinating concept that I think when you look at it, not at an exoteric level. I think the exoteric level is you look at you're told about reincarnation, Go oh, okay, I'm reincarnated. I was. Maybe I wasn't a human before, maybe I was a rabbit, but I was something I was alive and then I died, and then I came back as me, and now I'm this person named My name's Aaron.
So I'm a reincarnation of a rabbit from my previous life and then the previous life be put out of something else. And or maybe I've been a human reincarnating over and over again. I've been you know, different genders and different people and lived all over the world, and you know that sort of thing, and it's all about you coming back over and over again. And I
don't know. The way I see reincarnation as a very real thing is that the human experience reincarnates itself with each new generation, like each new person is a regeneration of the human experience. So somebody is born, they're an infant, they they're a child, they develop, develop into an adult, they have you know, their young adult, they have their adult life, they become good life elderly, then they die, you know, the life cycle
of a human being. That happens over and over again. Somewhere in the middle they're they reproduced and it happened again. So regeneration, right, the regenerative properties of our world from which we were birthed, like gets into a whole other aspect I didn't mean to get into, but you know, the virgin mother aspect, what we were born out of, all of us the
world that has this inherent regenitive principle within it. I just to me, it's it just seems more useful to see reincarnation as that, like a it's a religious idea of viewing that regenerative principle and saying, oh, yeah, look you are born again. And I just feel like we are all if you look at it from I believe an esoteric standpoint, we are all the same sort of person we are. You could say we are all the same
person. That sounds like a little loopy and maybe new aging and goofball, But when you think about it, we're all just you know, our own life is just another iteration of the human experience, which does reincarnate over and over again, and different basic aspects of everything you do on a daily basis has to do with your organism. You're a human like for me, I'm a man, I'm a human. I'm a male human being living on earth
in here twenty twenty four country America. I'm here in California. But again, all these labels are like things have come down through history. But the basic, the most basic thing is I'm a male human that's you know, mid age now, right, this it's just you know, this is where I am in the life cycle, and it's happened so many times before. It's happening concurrently with so many other people around me. We're all just doing the same thing. And our biology affects us. Our minds, our brains
are part of our biology. So the way we experience the world has everything to do with what we are. Who we are is what we are. We're say, human being living on earth, just like everybody always has. And yes, the circumstances have changed, and yes the art of alchemy has altered the landscape that we live in. That's fascinating to look at the things that happen over time, right, how we've incarnated at this particular moment,
and then that has obviously a huge effect on us. But in essence, we are the reincarnation of the human experience happening again for the You can't how many times has it been? You can't say, you can't you can't count how many times this has happened, which is profound to think about. I believe it's something that's immeasurable. Really, you can't measure the amount of people there have ever been. You couldn't do it even if you tried, Like,
there's no way of recording that. There's no way that that could be done. So that's kind of interesting. It's this thing that your objective mind wants to fall back to, this thing of saying like, well, of course there must be a number associated with the amount of humans that have lived over all time, right, so there must be a way that we could
come up with a number, and there must be one. But then if you back away from that sort of objective way of viewing the world, you realize that it would be if you were to go through with actually trying to figure out that answer. First of all, you would be wrong because you'd miss something, so your answer would be wrong. And if you thought you're right, you're out of your mind in a way that is dangerous. Which
it's the kind of thinking that happens a lot. Based on my observations of the world, is this line of thinking tends to dominate a lot of times, and we wonder why we're in the trouble we're in. But anyway, if you were to try to count how many people have ever been here, you wouldn't be able to do it. And so I think you fall back to what appears to be the rational thing to do, which is to say, there's really no meaning in counting things up like that, like there's there's
no essentially there's no point. There's more of a point, and just quickly coming to the understanding almost instantaneously that that sort of thing is something. The thought of putting into objective terms the human experience and all its iterations is foolish and like it's it's more valuable to just like sit back and understand, like how profound it is that like something immeasure you're part of something immeasurable. Right. And then this, I think is where religion pops in. It's like
aha, seeah, I told you that science can't do any everything. They're right. See, this is where religion is correct, where it goes like hey look no, And so you know it comes in there and you should
be inspired by these sorts of epiphanies and realizations and things like this. But yeah, I do believe that if you take a look at reincarnation from a sort of philosophical point of view, like I'm trying to do here that you can argue that, yes, of course it's real, we're all the reincarnation of the human experience, but that's not the way that reincarnation is explained. It's explained presumably on purpose. For people to take that exoteric understanding is like,
yes, I myself am a reincarnation of myself. I've lived several lives and I've been different people. Frankly, I find that not useful. I think it's it just seems like the wrong way to go to me. It seems like an ego trip, which if you look at the world religions again, every religion is telling you to dispel ego for the most part. I mean, I guess I shouldn't say every religion, and certainly not every take
on the occult is telling you to do that. Certain takes are meant to embrace that, actually, but it's in a different sense than what these exoteric takes on religion are, which I think can kind of do this thing where it's doing two things at once, where they'll throw a couple of lines that you say, yeah, ego's bad, Yeah I've dispelled the ego. You won't to get rid of it. But also you're reincarnated. You've lived a whole bunch of times over and you're gonna do it again, but get rid
of ego, you know what I mean. So it's like doing this thing where it's telling you and with the exoteric interpretation, it doesn't really matter. It's just like it's just there for you to make whatever you will out of it, as long as you're a card carrying member and you're going to be a good adherent and you're gonna go along to get along and whatnot, and good you just believe whatever you want. So so, yes, reincarnation interesting
concept. I've said this before on the show, but I've it always comes back to me is that it just seems like there's so many different ways that we want to believe that we ourselves do continue existing for eternity. When I don't know, I just keep going back to the idea that no, it's like us, like me as an individual, the individual human and is Aaron Franz since the one and only time that this happens, and I have come to terms with that. I'm not saying I'm excited to die. I'm not
saying that. But at the same time, I know that it will happen, and I don't believe that me I will reincarnate or come back or continue. I think that I end. However, if you take a step back from yourself, you do realize the recur nation thing again. It's like, well, people will still be here, they will keep the human experience, will reincarnate people. There will be some guy who pops up who has almost a parallel life to me, has the same experience as I'm having. Now.
I'm having the same experiences that others have had. It's a common thing we share. So this is going to happen again. So if you look at it like that and you try to pull an esoteric understanding from that, then breaking the karmic wheel of reincarnation takes on a kind of new occult meaning. I believe, and this gets into the alchemical side of you know,
when you come to that realization. And I'm assuming that in a lot of these like initiatic orders where people do learn the occults to their religion, right, be that Catholicism or Judaism, is any old thing Buddhism, you become initiated into the occult aspect of it. I think even us on the outside are given the impressions like, oh yeah, those guys are in there doing
meditations and doing everything they can to get rid of their ego. Right, So we have that understanding that that's what's going on, and I think that's correct in that the more you learn the truth of your religion, the truth is that you don't go to heaven when you die. You aren't reincarnated into
another body. You're just gone. That's the plain truth. Come to terms with it as you will within the monastery, make peace that with yourself, and then come to the realization that it's all about, you know, the bigger picture, and this thing keeps going, keeps going, keeps going. And then, once again, with that in mind, how are you going
to affect things in this weird world that is affected by time? And we do have the ability to alter the world clearly, So what are you going to do so that when reincarnation happens, you know more people are here after you, that they will be affected and have a better experience. And depending on where you are, what religion you're part of, what you're doing that
can take on different qualities. But in the Western occult tradition, the idea of alchemy being that we we understand our ability to reshape and change the natural world that we exist in has an effect over time, and it kind of has well. The more that we dedicate efforts to that end, the more that the process starts taking on a life of its own right. And eventually, you know, it gets into this concept of even like recreating the human
race. And as I say in my book Revolve, I talk about the transhuman aspect of this has to do with it remaking the human experience itself, potentially coming up with actual, like medical scientific ways to extend life, for one thing, so that theoretically to like immortality, where you can find some way to keep living through some sort of you know whatever therapy. Whether that happens or not remains to be seen. However, it's pretty fascinating to see
that that kind of stuff is on the table. It's a very real possibility, and now at this point in time, we should realize that now more than ever. It will seemed just like the rantings of some weirdo sorcerer a few hundred years ago, but now it'd be like, oh yeah, well that's I could see how that would work out, right, I don't know
how anybody could argue that. And so it is that we are here in the age of transitions where we're just all figuring things out together, figuring out where we're going to go with this, how things are going to pan out, how we ourselves even feel about this whole thing. Are we religious? Some of us are, some of us aren't. Should we bring our religion to the world and to others for their own good? Is it important to force the correct religion onto others? So better to take a more light handed
approach. I don't know you answered that. You answered that question for yourself. I don't know what I'd like the answer to be. And I don't want to see the heavy handed Christian nation business go any further than it already has. And in fact, I think you know, the seeds of their own destruction have been sewed by themselves. It's just a matter of time before they possibly just throw the entire Christian religion into the trash heap because of their
own stupidity. That's what they want. That's fine, you can just burn the whole thing down out of ignorance. It's not my religion what I care. So if that's your thing, Go ahead and you do that. Like I said, it's not my thing. But yes, all this and so much more. In the age of transitions, we're playing around on computers. We're on computers. AI is having a boom. It's also a bust.
It's never been better, it's never been more doomed. It's funny. I don't know if anybody has noticed, like I have, the conflicting stories about AI over the past month, I'd say, where you got like one. I don't know if it's even like these contingents where one side believes one and one believes the opposite. But the two sides of the story are that AI, there's an AI bubble that's going to burst, and there's been no such
thing as AI ever again because you know these lllms and generative AI. The business side of it is so ridiculous, and it's it's using all of way too much electricity and it's not tenable, and yeah, the nuts in the business are just running to sing it in the ground, which I'm not contesting any of that. And therefore, well, AI is is done, it's
done, it's going away. The other side of it is, well, look at all these crazy videos we're making with I can't even keep up with the names of all these image generators, but you know, there's a ton of new ones that are making pretty high quality imagery. It's like really psychedelic mind bending stuff. It's like, well, look at this AI is crazy. It's just imagine what's going to be able to do tomorrow. If it can do this now and last year it could only do barely anything, just
imagine what's going to happen in the next year. So we got these two things going on in the AI world now, and I think the truth is, you know, somewhere in between there maybe so that AI is not going away. I think it's useful when people do point out that it goes through
booms and busts. It has. Ever since the concept has emerged, the different AI winters have occurred, right, Like, you get some breakthroughs and you get even if it's just theoretical, it's like, well, what if we developed neural networks and we could do this like okay, and then somebody tries and then it really goes nowhere, and then decades later somebody there's a
breakthrough. It's like, oh, look, we actually got one of these things to work, Okay, cool, now what And then you know you're at a place where we're at now where they create all these llms that people are playing around with and having fun, but they're also doing horrible things, and people are realizing how out of hand this thing can get. It's like, oh god, this might be more trouble than it's worse. These AI hallucinations are real bummer. Maybe we should scrap this idea. And so,
you know, the ebb and flow of AI is what's going on. And I don't think that is going to change. I think progressively it will keep moving forward. I don't really I mean, there's the people they're always have about artificial general intelligence for a while now I've kind of just come to the come to the clue personal conclusion that the AGI thing is kind of a distraction. And Yeah, if anything, if we get AI development, it's not
gonna be too general intelligence. It'll be greater. It'll be amplifying the tool that is machine learning to do what it does, just run the mechanisms of this slave system we all live in. It'll be better able to do that, maybe automate that a little more than what it already is. And you know, automate different casks, different functions within this wonderful world we live in.
I do not doubt that it will continue to improve. In the most mundane of arenas, it'll be us to explain us all, like everything else is so, you know, for the course, nothing unusual should be expected by now. It's always shocking when the latest thing occurs to some people not to me, and so saying, oh, yeah, okay, here's this thing and it's doing this. Of course, it's just an improvement on what we've already done. Back to the concept of what is it that we're actually
doing? What is it that we've chosen to spend our time on a whole lot of seemingly foolish ventures When you pick them apart for about five minutes or so, you're come to the conclusion that this is a kind of silly what we're doing. Maybe we didn't have to go down this road. We obviously we're here now to keep going, but maybe we don't need to. And you know, aren't we all in that boat now where we're all just kind of analyzing the whole of our situation, going do we really have to do
things this way? So that I mean, how could that be anything but a good thing. Really, So that's good when we're all realizing that we live in a kind of insane world. And all the better if we realize it didn't have to come to this. It didn't, it has. So those are the two interesting couple things that can conflict with one another. It's like, it did not have to be this right, true, very true.
Probably it shouldn't have been, but it is this way now because of and we take a look at history, and we take an honest look at history, we're able to we can come to terms with, yes, the good and bad things, not just the good and the things that we like to remember, but also and maybe even more importantly, the bad things that we have all done. You get to be honest about that. I think
there's a crisis. There's like this internal conflict going on on, you know, the macrocosmic scale, where we're all having this identity crisis now and we're having like this dark knight of the soul. And I do believe those that are able to be honest and face the darkness and the truth of that, whatever that may be, will be better for it. I'll bet there's a lot of religious characters that have said stuff like this in the past, I
don't think I'm saying anything new. And hey, there's some good aspects of religion. Is that the point stuff like this out And if your religion is doing that, good, keep it up. Keep going in on Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday, whatever your holiday is, who cares, whatever, pick one of them. Go in there. And if if that's what gets you thinking like this, then good, get in there and stay in there.
If your religion does something like tell you, oh, you're gonna die, you know that, but we have a way out, or you're going to go to this place instead of dying, and you just have to do this one thing. And then if that's all you do is one thing, and then you'll keep living instead of dying, and then tell other people this. And when you hear that, you say, boy, tell other people.
Okay, well I better if you make it your mission, if you make it your mission to be a missionary to the extent where you have to force your religion on others at the point of a gun, maybe you've gone down the wrong road. Maybe I would argue that's what's happening in our dear country right now. Is that a lot of people do want to force religion down. Everybody's start at the tip of the barrel of a gun. You will be born again or I will kill you. Right, that's sort of concept
sounds like hyperbole maybe, but I don't know. It's getting way too close to literal as far as I'm concerned. So anybody doing that is a big problem. So you know, again my point of view, and again I'm probably just making things up. Religion doesn't even exist anymore. Nobody's religious in the US. Nobody's calling for a Christian deocracy in our country. Nobody would do such a thing. There's not such a thing as that. There's not
Christian nationalist is a good thing, but it also doesn't exist too. I don't know. You know, all this and more can be found in your country. Now. Terms and conditions may apply. Please read the fine print before acting on anything. I need to need to record some legal disclaimers just and just drop them periodically through the show, or I just press a little button on the mix. I mean to get one of those digital mixers and press the button, and every time I press the button will play like a
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Franky, I'm surprised I'm even able to make it here. Let's here, three three seven. That's what thirty three seven is a god time. Okay, Now we have the phones, cone cooking, I who that we have a wine waiting? Okay, line man your own with the crazy uncle man. Go ahead, Hey, don't how you doing hold it? Now? We're in the comedy show. There's something to laugh. The comedy begins, how you guys been dealing with the heat in California? That this is?
This is Chris, right, we know who this is? This is who is? Who is? This is Chris? Go Chris. I got his nickname, Chris. That's a lot of best. I got a question for the collar. First of all, why is it that you put a cherry pie on your dang uh packaging? There's not a cherry pie in there? Cherry pie, that's my question to you, Chris, go cherry pie.
You talk on your container that you're in that I could go for some cherry The vessel that you're contained in, chrisc has clearly an illustration of cherry pie in there when I was a kid. I want to open up that container, that cylinder and find cherry pie in there. Although those is just like oil goop, am I supposed to do that? I still think that's fat jild. I think I'm down to two hundred and twenty pounds right now. I think it's my pancreas is sailing. But I could go for some ferry
pie right now, And to be honest with you, it's good. Yeah, Yeah, I didn't mean to be mad at you. I'm just going with the weird Crisco thing. But Chris, it's good to hear from you. Man, you've been okay. You don't jump my customers like that. I was out too much, that too aggressive? There a buckle hat pie. Yeah yeah, I mean I was wondering about that because I'm like, I'm starving. Yeah, it's good to talk to you guys again. It is, it is so what's to have been happening with you side? Oh
I was living. I've been living in my car for a while and uh yeah, and I got some legal shit that stuff. I got some health stuff. Have you guys been going back to the leather faced diner. I've been curious about that for a while. Oh, you're talking about big Gerald Sanders, that that crazy nut. I'll be shocked, be shocked the game you send me a hand, But I'm still under the standard that man to know we are this restaurant. He's I'm gonna get started again. It's just
ridiculous. Sweet with this crazy man. I'd like to know what I'm down to it. I'm down to this. I'm down to this point. It's not where he is, it's what state is he in. Well, that's the question we want because other in Massachusetts. I used to have a show on the old Chili dot com network called Get Mad with Chris Graves. And it's been a while and Uncle and Aaron, I missed you guys, and I missed Truck as well. Yeah, I know. I hope you guys
are doing well. And uh, the only thing, uh, I was just wondering is just how you guys are surviving the heat out there in California. Because the heat here on the East Coast has been more humidity than anything. It's really hard to breathe. So you guys at least have the dry heat. I don't know if that helps. But I heard there was a lot of power outages out there. The fires fires more like, yeah, there have been fires, more fires than anything. It's been the fires that
people burned down to the ground. It's been down to the ground people had run away. Are you out of a danger? Uncle? You guys like, are you in danger of the wildfires? Just had the smokes come up from the mountains. Yeah, you always see them, that's for sure. We haven't gotten too close, luckily, but yeah, you know, not that close to us. But but the smoke comes up with them off the mountains like it does mop and like this morning and the day the week,
this past week, and when it was hot, it was smoky. People having problems bleathing. It does pollute the air, that's for sure. It's happen to breathe. But that's the problem. You guys have air conditioning. If you don't mind me asking, we Dideah, we do. We have it. We've had it. We've had it on the since this heat has
been working on us tonstantly in the house. But now but now it's starting to give relief, so we may it might be re leaving us with the especially this week, and it's opposed to send a sort of a home in. Yeah, but actually I can I ask you guys a question, Like for a while there, it seemed like you guys weren't taking calls, like
was that all we obviously I got through tonight. Was that like an issue for you guys for a while that you're willing to talk about, then, well, it's the issue was I gave up too much time to the custom of the talk and didn't have me talk. That was the main reason, and I cut it. I cut that off for a while and let us have a conversation between us two and having my show going, but then after we'll come back with it. That was the same thing. That's pretty much
it. Yeah, thank you guys for you're back now and uh riving, So that's great to hear. Yeah, we'll let the cause the tool. We'll make them we we'll make them tool, but not to take a while long tool. You know. You know what I mean, right, I know what you mean. You Oh, there's the Crisco. Thank you, Chuck for putting on your chat Chuck talking about there's that Cherry. I don't know what the fat show care. No, I really am fat. I'm
trying to shod some pounds. But like that would make sense Cherry Pie, though I would, I would kill for it. Right now, Chris, the answer to all your questions is in the Chilly dot Com chat go to check has generously dropped an image in there that explains it all. Go to the chack right now. Yeah, I'm on my phone. Yeah you're looking. Yeah, I know. I've been doing a lot of deliveries like I did a few years ago. I think I was on the air with you
guys when I was out in l a doing door dashing. But yeah, no, my car officially died today. So you guys are a breast of press air right now for me personally. So you're you're providing a very healthy, humorous service for people out there. I just want you guys to know that we're sorry to hear that. Chris, it's uh, I hope you do better, but also glad to hear that you're enjoying the show. And yeah, I mean I don't know. Uh, did you hear about the
UFO? We have a UFL phone now, yeah, nowhere were there another China balloon that I didn't hear about. Uh, they went down, they went to dash it. This is when they went to the desert and they had something around in the sky. But it was like a fly, but but it was a different kind of fixture. It looked like I'm what they are saying, that's what look like. But I'm curious. See what's on the board? Now, yeah, I mean I could. For some reason, I keep trying to push this photo I took of the night sky.
It was a long expressure and some light went around it. I don't know, I'm saying it's a UFO photo. It's not going to attraction online. I'm going really frustrated by this. It's like, come on, I got a UFO photo and nobody's no engagement inven with the UFO photo. Does it take these days? We can't do anything on the show with the uf oh ing what his s wife kick is going and going crazy to his head and this is what's been going on between these crazy muscians. And I said the
phone, he might have the story right now. Yeah, we need answers. We definitely need answers here, a lot of quess I remember I was trying to get a bunch of wrestlers to you guys, what is going on with that? To get a hold of that, That's what's going on with it. They're just they're they're they're too popular, They're too I mean. And we had a guy that has his own bloodcase, but he's a whistler. He wouldn't come over the money. That's sort of that's what is strange.
You know what actually here? Chris Jericho, No, no was I know because I contacted in for you guys too. He never got back to me, but I know maybe he got back to you. Oh No, who was that guy that had a that that it has a podcast stone called Steve Austin. He's one too, Yeah, he's one. I can you get in the hand of get in touch with Steve Austins. Well, look, here's no, he doesn't get. My takeaway from the wrestler thing was
that they're popular. They're not the only ones that are popular and hard to get a hold of. But I actually took the strategy with this, saying, Okay, the wrestlers, they don't want to come on unless we pay them. Fine, So I decided new strategy. I was like, let's go with the most obscure people that nobody knows who they are, and I'm going to find them and bring them on as guests on the podcast. I did a little bit of that's I've seen the work better. Actually, that
will look better. Well, that will work better because if you'd been they'll say, and they don't know who it is, Yes, it you know, shock out. I'll tell you something. It shocks me. I can tell you right now. It will shocked me because I'm on my own show fact yeah, and you have people coming in and this in and here I am trying to think who it is on my head, uncle, uncle, you had a guy from Australia. I think right at one point he was ready to he was kind of gut in the whole to come on. I
think right eron he was, but again he was the guy. He's the guy who had a fee which I could have paid. But I don't want to get into the position where I'm paying these fees like this, I saw, yeah, I don't blame you. So so that's when I came up with the new strategy. I'm going to find some weirdo doing like the most uh you know, off the wall YouTube videos ever and just start contacting them.
I get a bit of that for a minute, and that came with its own set of problems and like people don't get back to you, or if they do, they don't want to come on, or like and then sometimes people are really cool. It's like, oh yeah, I come on, but I'm in the wrong times I was like, oh, okay,
that was cool. But so I've had varying degrees of success with that, but I think honestly it comes down to time for me too, Like I don't have enough time to dedicate to like book guests that I really should have. I should do more well, thin sorry, I was saying about it. For him, that would be one the revolution, Uncle, I mean to do one for you, thinking, oh, have a guest, have guesses and figure them out. I can go, I can get guess.
But it's it's a different it's a different thing these days. I say this all the time. It's different than when I started. But that's not I not to say I can't get them, but it does take effort, which which is fine. I put John from Howard Stern. He wanted like five hundred bucks to come on. I was like, all right, John, all right, got it. Yeah, away. So I understand your pain. And it's these new people, uh, pomping the people. I say, just listen to us. I had enough of I had enough of these
people that want to have to think that given the give us money. Hey, we are just doing I'm started this job young, in this thing just to have a lamp. And you were in the right, like yeah in the sixties, right, you were in the Olympics. You actually won some awards if I remember right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, or you got to carry the torch right, yeah, we had that. We had that on a film. We had Dad with what's the name, Oh,
yeah, we found that. Uh the video of the of presumably you with the torch that was Kennedy and Kennedy's it was the Kennedy's Kennedy and then got into that. I said it was in the middle of Uncle, you know that you were a part of history. We would you think that somebody would at least watch that. I mean, man, we just got come from boom and then they did something maunt of that. Yeah, I think
there's a I think there's a lot of opportunity in the streaming. I would like to do more live streams of what we do, but we did. We did a VHS watch party last weekend and that was fun. Those are a lot of fun. I think there's a lot of potential in those. I want to keep doing those. Notion to the show, but I think there's a lot of potential there. And I'll keep pushing for guests. And the guests are great when we get them, they really are. I do
enjoy any guests. We've got some good ones. Uncle from time time we get really had some good can time down. So he is a small storm on again or on for the first time. I'm not sure if Aaron, if you actually had her on. Look, I'll be totally frank I don't want to talk to her. I know her, I have I have known her personally. And could you mentioned you once on Sam Tripley show, And that's why I brought up Sam triple earlier. Well, I appreciate it and
transitions she mentioned. Yeah, yeah, the whole thing, like I could say, I could say a lot of things, handy hook stuff has a lot of baggage to it. If that's what you're getting out, Like I told you, it's more than it's more than just that. I would just say that the whole scene of the truth scene or wherever the hell it is that Sofia thinks she's a part of I can say I don't want to be a part of that whatsoever. And it's a no small reason because of Frankly,
because of her. She's I don't think she's a good person. I'll just say that I don't. I don't think she's a good person. I'll be on record and I'll no idea. I'll just say that, no, I had no idea. No, I yeah, I would have brought it up if I had no idea. So I'm sorry. I mean, I'm sure she would say the same thing of me if she if she were honest, and she is if if, if you, if you can get her in private, she'll be honest about a lot of things. I don't think
she's honest in public, but I don't expect her to be. Okay, I don't know. It's a bad. The whole thing is a bad. I'm done. I'm done with it. I'm I don't have the truth. I don't want the truth from anybody. I don't want it. I don't blame it's it's a it's a mess. I can tell you anybody out there thinking they're buying it from anybody like that, I've got news for you. You aren't. I don't want to reevaluate you. No, I uh re
evaluate my I don't really have a stance on it. I just, uh, you're actually the first person that I've heard because I really haven't dug deep or whatever. But you're the first person to actually have that perspective on that person. It makes me want to go back and and look at other stuff. Well, don't, I would say, don't don't take don't take my word for it. Just no, But you're you know, I trust where you're coming from Yeah. I'm just I did we get to this kind of
uncle? We're yeah, I know this is coming on the show. I'm sorry uncle, Hi h I will. I will actually think if anybody happens to be listening and they want to call in, they can the number three one nine five two seven five zero one six. You can also use Skype if you do contact Chuck type on a message. You know what that was. It was about nothing, Uncle, it's uh, it's it's been Hey. Hey uncle, are you looking forward to the new dead Pool and Wolverine
movie? Like just something you're excited about her? I saw I didn't see when it was coming out, though, you know when it changes. It's coming out in like two weeks. Yeah, oh, that will be Wolverine from the X Men White. Why I remember the uh x Men and and they had this, uh they had to screw up on a hand. I like to see how he turns out. He's got the clause. They had a man he's got the metal clause. Yeah, that's what I sort of like saying. Did you ever see get Pool? I did it? I
think I have. It's uh, it's one of those superhero movies. Uncle, It's like a comedy sort of thing where the guy is sort of like crude and silly and tells a lot of jokes. A superhero, right, yeah, something I've never actually even seen it, I know. Yeah, No, it's it can be entertaining. Sometimes it's a little too over the top. It's a little X rayed some time. So I will admit that. Yeah, you're right, adult content. Adult content. Well you can't
hand that. I oh, you can't if you pay the right price. I guess are there any movies you guys are looking forward to? I know last time we talked, I think it was Indiana Jones five and it was kind of, uh a fecal show if I remember correctly. You know, I've been watching, uh war shows for some reason. I'm getting into, I think war shows these days. Oh, on this one, the pull metal jacket pullman and jacket pock ups now, hucket teams pull metal jacket.
Vincent in Oprio, Yeah, I Stanley Kubrick Yeah, and saving Private Ryan, Staving Private Ryan. Uh? What are the other ones? Oh? Do we have a new color? We have another color? All right? Joining us? All right, there is uncle. Let's see we're talking comedy again. What do we what do we have to do against? Yeah, but are we against? We're up against too much. We're talking, we're talking something about movies and then something person in what what what VHS tapes do
you want to watch the most? Dropping? Yeah? Which ones do you want? Oh? Yeah, you know I had a break I had a break dancing video from back in the day. It was pretty cool. That showed you all the moves and I can't remember exactly we're behind those is one of them. Now, this was not a Hollywood production. It was more like an instructional video, kind of like your Tibot action you guys did, Yeah, we did that. By the way, I enjoyed that. I
enjoyed that broadcast. Okay, I would really enjoy though, if you guys did the full full body shot. Just he just said that one film, one show, one rob But there's one Robin wants us to pan out and actually stand up and do the Tibo exercise. I can if we have the list launch though. Yeah, I know, I we'd have to do a different setup. But maybe I can get that set up for a new exercise
tape and we can do that. At some point. I need to get a good monitor, like I said, I need to use some funds to buy a monitor, an old TV to hook up to the VCR where it's great small so you're on the small screen exactly. We'll be easy. I could do it. I just need to go get one. So it's a new piece of equipment we need to get. Get the daily exercise in wall broadcasting. It's like a real tri effecta indeed, Now, Chris, have you have you seen the VHS shows we do? Do you know what we're
talking about here? I've been preoccupied with just life in general, So I have to say I really wish I could say that I was able to listen in, but I haven't. Would you guys be able to kind of refresh my memory? We just we just watched VHS tapes and we live streaming and it's fun. It's a good time, like the mud wrestling tapes from like eighty six, because that's awesome. But you guys, you guys ended up
doing that. What do you think? Hey, now you got me thinking going in that playing and look for something like that, and with that I would get this going. I love going mapped up pretty quickly. It was like mud Wrestling eighty six, and I think it was like a couple of the top counts of the day. They really did put their all in there. I don't know this wolf book culture that we really fled today, But who cares like eighty six. I'd rather be eighty six, right uncle?
Yeah, yeah, if we find the tape, I mean it just comes down to we go to the thrift store, we buy VHS tapes whatever they have that we won't be in trouble with copyright for, and then they watch them over the last three so I love you guys really goes to camps. Well see that's when we would not watch because we did. That's no big Hollywood productions, just weird, obscured little things or things that we don't think will set off the the car. All right, I got your fringement.
Give give them, give them what we were the last couple of them. I'm going to take a look here, tiebo. Let me see he let's go on. I have a playlist here, which is no game I got you. We had oh no more back pain. We yes, So that was thinking of Doctor Sweezey and Santa Monica made that video, and then we had before that was Las Vegas, the City of Excitement that one was very interesting, very They have full frontal with that. Oh no, it wasn't. It wasn't that far. But I don't know. I had dancers on
stage for a second. Probably it wasn't too crazy. Actually, well, I'll just keep reading other titles. We had tai Chi for Health was very good. That was a popular one. And we actually watched The Stranger, which is an old Orson Wells movie, and some others. But yeah, that's the kind of stuff that we watched, that sort of thing. We have a few more. You know what you guys should watch. You should watch Santa Claus Versus the Devil, which was a Mexican holiday movie from like
nineteen sixty three. I think Chuck might know about it. Literally, Santa Claus fight Satan himself and Uncle sham a clause always comes out on top. It's good to tell. After all, take that Saint Nicholas, he's got them skills and martial arts skills. Well, there's that story that they're the same guy, right, Santa is Satan, but it's just you know, the letters mixed up. So what about that? That's all of that concept
in the movie. He just fight in herself, just fighting himself they're giving away the twist ending that was the m Shamalan twist ending for the Mexican produced is the devil. You just gave it away, man, you guys away. I mean I was gonna watch it now. It's funny. I knew nothing of it, but that's how it goes. Yeah, but now he's gonna watch it now and don't get it eat it. I'm just cut out to watch it. And now now we know what the ending is. Watching
Quanda quandar watch Quanta. Wait what was that, Robin? What did you say? Uncle's been to the swimming pool lately? Oh you have gone? Have you gone swimming? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. We got this new new deal about the hunt. I mean, uh, warmful the pool because we've got some new stuff. Only now it's sort of sort of warm right now. I say, okay, let's just put it hot outside. It's hot and it's not good right now. But in the winter time, that now was perfect. Yeah, it's
warm in the winter. Warm in the winter time. We go, so you can you can go into them? I don't, Oh he doesn't. The answer for that is because it flows up my exima. So I don't do it any anything that's gonna make me itch and not not sleep at night, I'm like, I do it. That's one of those things. So I just that's that says the ocean network. Lakes do that to just the swimming pools, not the swimming pool, just the old chlorine and all that. Yez, I don't trust it. We used to have salt who had
a salt pool in jack We did in Jackson. In Jackson that was sort of actually was better. The salt is better than having the cooreeen would be and probably saying the better when your pub. Perhaps I haven't been. I don't remember swimming. Wait, I have. We rented some friends ran it out of place in Palm Springs years ago, and there's a saltwater pool. It's the one time I swim in one of those things. Seemed kind of cooled or it was actually hot, but it was nice. But but angle
bate what you got. Maybe maybe I don't think so. I think they still might use a little bit of chlory and those ones just too. Yeah, that two little bugs around. Probably you guys have been up to the landers at all recently. I probably be going. I'll probably go tonight honestly went not last week but the week before. But yeah, I should be out there tonight. Is there anything I should look for? You know, I'm not I'm not too aware of the current astrological events that might be going
on. You just have to keep your eye out. Maybe some more UFOs. That's all happy here and then come home saying I got on the NFL. Yeah, that's all you're gonna be here, uncle? And he said, no what you know what he said, Ponzi trees. They told him
how to do a Ponzei one of those people. Yes, I think this has come up on the show in this past where yes, what, Just like George van Tassel channeled the aliens out in Landers to give him the designs to the integratron, I too, am going to channel aliens, but not to build a structure. I'm going to do it, and I already have for that matter. And they're giving me detailed instructions on how to make bon sailles, is what he's saying. So I've got detailed instructions from the aliens
on how to make cactus and succulent bon sai. They're telling me not to tell anybody how to do it. I'm the chosen one that's very special that gets to make them and share them with the world. So that's my that's our gift, the alien beings and myself that we're going to bestow on you very soon. Isn't that exciting? Oh? Boy? Yeah? Don't you feel lucky everybody that me and aliens did this or are going to. Now he's done and it's nice and no, I'm excited. Yeah, that's good.
I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, because I like Yeah boy ones, Oh okay, So with the jade plant, you do some bone size techniques to it, with the pruning and all that more just yea more the pruning, not so much the wiring and the and the shaping quite yet. I haven't been contacted nice I like. I like the shaping. But yes, you're my attention and watching him. Stick with it, Robin, if you if if you do it long enough, the aliens will start talking to
you. Trust me. It works by my bond size kind of. It's doing okay, but unfortunately I don't have any deck space, so that's my bond size suffers from being an indoor only Bonsai got a different care. Yeah, yeah, do you have your own bonds. I I'm not yet, but I do have kids. I told him that when you do, one can put it in my my own tea tea container. I wanted to you guys own custom buon sye ready to put it in and when he can get one started, ready to go because I wanted to put one in there.
Mm hmm. Chris do you do you? Are you there are aliens telling you how to make bone right now? Our aliens show me how to make them rosia because bonzi zi. Yeah. Any thoughts on Bun said channeling aliens that he makes fun sai plans anything like that. Do you have any thoughts on an of that? Well, every time I watched the classic The Karate Kid Part three from nineteen eighty nine, it always reminds me of Pat Marita's Bonzai tree. That is one of the surefire ways of connecting with the Nebula
Cosmos section of our galaxy. So other than that, it's classified information and I may be stepping on some toes right now, but you're onto something there. Aaron. Oh boy, I was like, aliens may have contacted him too. Yeah, yeah, he's not so many words? Is that that this movie confirm nor deny it. Okay, how did this movie come out him doing the Ponzi and now talking about the aliens doing his funzigine. I'm a little confused right now. Let me uncle. There's a lot of moving
parts here. I don't watch The Next Karate Kid with Hillary Schlank because it's horrible. Sorry, Joe, not too Oh my, Oh yeah, the Karate Kid? Was that three or part two? Which one was that? I can't remember which one that was? No, The Next Karate Kid was Part four with Hillary Schlank in Boston when Papa Rita came and tried to adopt her and said, I can't deal with girls, so I only dealt with Daniel's son or whatever. There is a tragedy. Oh man, that sounds
good. But oh, I see we have a somebody's in the chat at Twitch. Oh it's mister Flash. Mister what's been happening with him? He's saying, hey, guys, how have you been? It's mister Flash from down Under a final experience. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Yeah, he's on the whole opposite season from us. It doesn't seem right, does it make? That? Alcohol? He in Germany and that that pub that Chuck was talking about for a while that was playing like the Ocella Network, the
same one. This is raised cousin. Wait wait raised nephew, nephew. They both live Australia. Yeah, yeah, it was the same one. So yeah, they're down there, I mean Southern Hemisphere. Yeah, it's crazy. It's when the toilets going a different circular motion than up here in the Great United States. I think that's true. So it's going this way instead of yeah, that's right, it does go that way. This is the world living. It's hard to be, it's hard to believe, but
here we are. It's true. It's it's it's man, if you don't mind me asking, what is everybody uncle too? What is your take on the latest debates? I don't know if it's a boring topic or whatever, but it was a circus to me and uh, I check it out and I was like, wow, oh Trump and Pidon, Oh uncle, what do you think of that? I don't know if I got it. I am the first one. I don't think he was there, but the second one seemed like he was coming back on some on some things later and the
lois and yeah, we beat medicare I think right? Yeah, something like that? Sure did? Would you like would you like it if Aliens came down? Now it just stopped this whole rate? Or what do you think? I don't know it shot, keep those minds. I'll tell you that to shock everybody. Haven't seen any Arians for a while. Shoots from down and boom they might have. Hey, what's this guy who makes thattstic thing? Somebody's washing the spaghetti video? It's playing the spaghetti video? What is
this spaghetti? Is something that brings Washington together? Oh? That one? Can you imagine what the Russians would think of all this spaghetti? Then go, these people are crazy. These people are crazy. Can you imagine we have spaghetti? Spaghetti? Spaghetti? Fivver. So that's the one that you made. I did not make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wish I made that. I wish I could take credit that that. I don't know what anybody That video is a work of genius. Okay, it's
it's not just purely AI. I know whoever put that together and put all work into it. But I love that video. It's so funny. It's long or something too. Yeah, yeah, it's about ten minutes to get into it. It's worth it. It's worth the time investment. That's all I gotta Sayiden Trump had a spaghetti eating contest. Who could eat more plates of spaghetti? Who you from between Biden and Trump? Biden, I think you could. It's because it's who don't talk? That is the key.
If somebody talks more, hey won't eat a lot of skinny. That's a great point. That's a great point. You get lost in some and some tie. As you were listening to that one, you heard Trump talking more than he wasn't. Actually he wasn't talking. He was kept beating, So I think he'd win. That can't contest. I think, Aaron, you got any counterpoints there. I mean I would just say that Trump his weight was in question. Remember when he was in president like it was he way
like and apparently he was saying he's light, but clearly he's not. He's he can back food away. I mean, he's famous for like what, eating four filet of fish for every My son tells me this. He's like, I do you know what Donald Trump eats for lunch every day? I'm like, no, He's like, hoorfully a fish and French fries and sometimes a breaker. I'm like, Okay, I know he likes fast food.
Yeah, that's that might be his only meal of the day. That he might be one of those beam fasters with the McDonalds, with the McDonald's and the diet coach. Goodness, uncle, if you and Aaron had a spaghetti eating contest, who would win? I don't know, because he can eat any telling you he can eat? Yeah, be me on the time eating these days. Now I can cutting back on my food. But now I think that nothing. I might have the advantage. You might have advantage.
Now, I think it's the oldie. I think it's the odie. You get less time you eat. It tends to happen that that might be the what my problem is. Now you're thinking about it, I'm thinking about it. I don't think it's too bad of a thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean we could all I mean a lot of people could eat less portion cattle. Well, I get these TV dinners. It just brings in a patrol control eating one of them. It is better to eat one of them
then let's say whole dish of asagna for example. I mean, yeah, you don't want like Garfield, it like throw your head back and then Gie, you eat the whole thing. So so there's a difference there. Yeah, there's a difference between eating the holes on you are just a TV dinner, You're gonna want to not eat the holes on you of the Chris You do you like lazagna? Do you like la Do I like lazagna? Yeah? Are you like Garfield and that you like lasagna? Or is you don't
care for it? I like it Lazgia, but like Garfield, I don't care for Mondays. This account. Yeah, rainy days and Mondays always bring me down. Yeah, so I hear you notble or a durable or whatever. The female dog that was always fucking Garfield and John and Odie and everything. Yeah, it was the door. It was a little cat. It was a brown dog. It was it was the brown dog that was I always cliffs right to the death. Yeah that I mean, who doesn't.
I mean it will prove finally, once and for all, which cartoon was the better one. So you know, the cartoon shows this is that this is really I like it. Yeah, uncle, were you ever into Bes and butt Head and their friend that had the winger shirt? Oh? Yeah, a Stewart that was Stuart Stewart stud character. Yeah. Remember and some at the time and some mind well meanin we got into it. When we
had this, we had a costume going on and him was Winger. Well no, no, actually, our first Instagram post on the Uncle Podcast Instagram pressed a button. Our first post is us wearing the Beavis and butt Head Halloween costumes. Halloween costume. If you go back to just say, if you back very first one, you'll see this man at Uncle Podcast Instagram. Scroll all the way down, go all the way back to the beginning.
You'll see what you're talk you're talking about. Back when we were in Orange, bucking Orange, did you guys wear the A C d C Metallica shirts or the Galic deeth rocks and the skull It was a show. I made them. I took a gray T shirt and a blue T shirt. I just painted and drew with sharpie on each looked like the drawings from the shot. That is beautiful, Aaron. I'm glad you did that. I'm gonna
go back and check that out. This awesome. Yeah, check that show out on the generic on the Walmart version of those shirts, they weren't allowed to have a C. D C or Metallica, So they had literally made up band names and I think it was uh steth Rocks and Skulls or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you go back to it, you'll see it. Yep, just go back and do you know on the set of Donnie, I think it was Donny Brosco. Maybe it wasn't because Marlon
Brando. It was one of the Marlon Brando Johnny Depp collaborations, Marlon Brando and Johnny Depp like in between takes on whatever movie it was don Juan DeMarco. I think it was from ninety five. They literally there's footage of them literally quoting back and forth to each other. They're doing the Beavis and butt Head like impersonations, and they're going, you got Marlon Brando from a street car named Desire, and you got Johnny Depp and they're both playing Beavis and
butt Head. Classic. That's I think I did not know of that, but yeah, it just shows you the true artistry of the show. Have you seen Johnny Tip in the Window the Window? Is I seen that movie that Johnny start? Yeah, I've seen that movie. Oh there was No Secret Window, Uncle Stephen King, Yeah, I saw that movie two thousand and three. Yeah, okay, but it was based on Hitchcock, I think, so you're right to Aaron, it was okay, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's a window right. Yeah. No, I'm a
big fan of Johnny Depp. Despite the Amber heard leaving a turd in his bed to Jasco from like two years ago. Johnny, Oh yeah, well he won the case, so I don't know whatever happened to her, So you know, he won in the court and in the court of public opinions. When she got out of Oklahoman two as Marra, you know she did, I guess, yeah, yeah, because she was full of U that turd that she left in Johnny Depp's bed. Yeah, oh, it was
updating him. I guess what's going on there. I remember when the trial happened. I didn't follow it, but I definitely remember it happening. And yeah, yeah, yeah right. She blamed it. She blamed it on the dogs, said the turd in the bed with the dogs. He goes, No, I've dealt with there, I've dealt with their people. No, that was not it was definitely human. She she ended up going to a big bear or what's the big festival there? In California. Yeah,
okay, cool, Yeah, Big Bear is the mountain. That's the big that's the mountain launch in the summer time, winter time, it's a good place to be, right about. Now, get up the Big Bear. Yeah yeah, but he said hot and humid, parn it's not humid here. It's hot, yes, humid No, so we do have that going for heat that is. But here. Then let's say eight down east, you'll be you'll be in that like right now where it's like a swamp. You'll be like jumping in the swimming pool down there, if you will.
I don't have a swimming pool, so right now I have to wet myself in the shower. Uncle, literally I am. I mean, I'm low keck right now. Yeah, but you know what I mean when it because it's wet and uh, Bonnie just gave you guys dripping down to Palm Springs because when I was in Palm Springs, my guess sports at one hundred and eighteen degrees. Oh does that still occur Palm Well, now, yes, it's been that hot out there. Actually. Uh, my father law lives
out there way now, so we've been out there a bit. The kids were out there a couple of weeks ago and I was like one fourteen or something. Yeah, it's hot out there. Wow. Then yeah, which is also that's where Coachella is too. India's next town over us, I mean the Coachella Valley. It's Indio, Rancho, Mirage, Palm Desert, Palm Springs, all those places are all pumped in the same spot and it's high, super high. And that's all you around where it's like one hundred
and twelve degrees. No, no, no, just the summer, in the fall and winter and even in the spring it's actually quite nice. But when the summer hits be ready, it's it's brutal. Okay, all right, yeah, But the other one I was traveling there was in like November of like twenty twenty one, I think, and wow, it was that I thought my car was going to burn. Yeah, I thought my car
was going to die on the side of the road. I was like that that must have been a heat wave for them, because that's that's hoder than it should be. But I guess it can get that hot even then, but that's late for it or late in the year for it to be that high. Yeah. Yeah, do you guys. Do you guys know what I'm talking about when I bring up there's a town in California when you're when you're traveling across the country and you're entering California from Arizona. I think it
was our New Mexico, one of the two. Literally there's a town that looks like bedrock from the Flintstones, Like literally all the houses look like they're from bedrock. Do you know that town? Is it like basically like a roadside attraction where they put all that stuff like Barnie Rubbles car and Fred Flinston's car and all that you No, No, it wasn't. No, it was literally like a whole town and it looked like it was from bedrock.
But I didn't see like signs saying that, you know, they weren't like it wasn't It didn't appear to be like a tourist kind of thing. It really appeared like that's how they lived. And it was literally when I think it was during like the COVID stuff, because this is twenty twenty one, like the fall, and there was a town that literally seemed like it came out of bedrock, Like every house looked like that bedrock cartoonish kind of like
community. And I was mystified. And I can't remember for the life of me what the name of that town was. But it was right in the border when you were entering California from like the south or whatever. I think it was from either New Mexico or Arizona, whatever one borders it like the bottom. It's probably Arizona, so it's that southern highway. I forget what one is. I don't know. I don't know what that is. I don't I can't think of what you might be talking about. It was like
red and brown, like soil or whatever. Does that at all? I mean over by Arizona it gets that color, Yeah, it gets the color. But it was like that. And I remember like you had to take, you know, the COVID tests just to enter the state, and it was in like no, it was October of twenty twenty one, and I was just mystified because I was it's like this, it should looks pretty cool, but it was like kind of like out out in the middle of nowhere.
But you could tell they were probably pretty pricey, but it looked like that bedrock like kind of artwork from like the Flintstones I don't Maybe you don't want to go there, maybe like a flint stone that maybe it was just a louse nation because I ate like some dead cactus or whatever on the side of the road. That could be probably too. Yeah, that does tend to happen. It's hard to resist eating them. But that's that's what the aliens will try to make you do. I've had this happen right so many
times. Yeah, my backside afterwards too. Yeah, it's a real thing. I was like, wow, I feel like I was rape. But anyway, we're towards the end of the show, so we should do shout out some calls, but we need to be doing guys, all right, Dan, my hand was Chris. Chris first for a shout out. You got Chris, you shout out to shout out to you guys for keeping me in good spirits because it's been pretty hard and uh, it's going to get
harder. So I'm just going to keep tuning in and keep doing what you guys do, and you provide a good public service, you and Chuck and everybody, and keep on keeping on and thanks for indulging my uh buffoonery tonight. Thank you Chris for great to talk to. Take care all right, So now to rob it Robin. Next, do you have for a shout out? Readings? Greetings, shout out to these the spaghetti eaters out there again? Carb up? All right, Pet, we love it, all
right, great to talk to us always. All right, than there, guys, thank you. All right, we'll get some Yeah, we still got to do the meat. We do, we do, We'll do that. We'll do that, Uncle, But I got a shout out to them aliens. Thank you, Thank you for taking over my consciousness when I channel you, it's it's wonderful. And you're giving me all these great ideas on DONSI I don't deserve this, so thank you for your generosity. Strange beings
from another world? Who do you have for a shout out? Shouting all the listeners and who shout who called in? And hopefully shout out on the ladies, would like to shout out, uh call in once in a while, all right, okay, well this uh of course we're live every Friday night on the Chili Radio Network. Thank you for listening. I'll call the podcast dot com at Uncle Podcast, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, and yeah,
anyway, gosh, I'll look for the live stream. So we should be doing a live stream, possibly this weekend, so check those channels. Uncle, bring us up. Fly. There's a number, whatever number this is, there's our show, Bubby, goodbye,
