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Funds are up, and so do remember that it's good to be here. It's good to be talking. Another week, another day, another another time at the age of transitions within and we're all within the age of transitions. Does not all of us realize it yet, but more and more each

day, we're all just coming to understand the importance of emerging technologies. One of the fun terms that is used to describe things such as artificial intelligence, danotech, life extension therapies and all sorts of life life extension research going on these days, genetic engineering, robots, robotization, all these sorts of fun things like that. Computer science advances and computer science. Perhaps you've heard of advances in quantum computing cubits. Maybe you know what a cubit is. If

you do, good for you that many people know what that is. It's fascinating, all these things. Fascinating that so much going on in so many different areas all at once. Now no one can keep up. It's fine, don't give yourself a hard time for not being to be able to keep up, because I do a show about these things, and I can't keep up either. I got not even close. But I'm doing what I can. I'm doing what I can, just live in a life and doing this

as well. And it's fun. It's fun for what it's worth to make as much sense as one can out of what seems to be senseless. And it does. But don't be dismayed. There is sense to be made here and there, at least, maybe not all the time. Oftentimes it is

quite senseless with what we go through together. But take heart, there is rhyme and reason at least some of the time, and so so it is that we can at least have rhyme and reason why it is that we do what we choose to do, how we live our daily lives, how we choose to cope with this reality that we've all been thrust into and forced to deal with. Because we can't change absolutely everything that's not going to happen, it becomes a matter of how do we deal with this, that and the

other thing? Right? It's more often than not, it's just it feels like that, right, And there's the frustration of living in this insane world of ours. It's like, well, how am I supposed to cope? How can I maintain a sense of sanity? How can I just deal with things? Then we can always find a way to do it, despite how it may feel at times we're all doing okay. Well I can't speak for everybody. Maybe we aren't all doing okay. But we have to find a

way forward whenever that's possible, is what I'll say. So there we go, And if you were listening, last week had an interesting discussion about artificial intelligence as it relates to the upcoming twenty twenty four election. I will continue to be cycling back to that story as we move further on into the coming election year. We're at the end of this year now, moving into this wonderful election year. I want to be interesting, and it's really it will

be. I look forward to seeing whether that story the story of the Heritage Foundation's Project twenty twenty five or it's a Project twenty twenty five, Yes, project twenty twenty five. And then the other thing is what agenda forty seven. Being the forty seventh president, right, It'll be interesting to see if what other media outlets follow that story going forward to certainly it's not some flash in the pan things. It's like, oh, look at this thing that

happened and it's over. No, it's continually happening as we speak. It appears to be the agenda of the Republican ticket in twenty twenty four, or the one behind it that I'm assuming they don't want us to know about unless where one of the folks who are being tapped by this project saying, Hey, look, you know we are interested in you. We've heard so much about you. We know that you're you know, just a real great bag of Republican and you want to make a difference, and you care about the

First Amendment, and you care about freedom. We understand that your mission in life is to bring freedom to the world, and so you know, we're would you like to join us? Because we love freedom, We love the First Amendment, we love the Second Amendment, we love most of the amendments some of the time when they suit us. And how about you? How about you and I I being a giant, a giant organization, a giant political foundation, how about we get together and we just make magic happen.

Mag gack not magic. But mag gag, right, maygag, And it's it's a magical, mystical thing they're doing with AI, using it to troll through massive amounts of data that there's no don't worry, it's not infringing on your on your privacy or anything like that. But what they're doing, it's how they found you, is a complete invasion of your privacy because you uh, in posting anything online, it's just you're putting it out into the public

domain anytime. Hell, anytime you you know, just fire up Internet at all, anytime you're using a browser or a mobile device or anything, privacy is gone. And that's just the way it is. And it's not a First Amendment issue. It's not a privacy issue. It's not. It's what it is. It's freedom. It's freedom. For the Heritage Foundation to do this so that they can recreate America, so that freedom can finally have a chance. I mean, it's been a while since freedom was actually around in

America, So why aren't we reinstituted. We don't reinstitute it by any means necessary, which are the best means. And we're going to finally have law and order San Francisco, all the homeless people and the climbered in streets of San Francisco and Philadelphia and all these other dart ball cities where everybody's just looting every second of the day, just constant looting. No, you can't go in a store without seeing somebody steal everything. You can't walk down the street

without being murdered and having to pick yourself back up and keep going. It can't do it. But that's okay. That's all part of the plan. We're going to fix all that. There's be law and order. There will be tanks going up and down the streets, and that's a good thing. It's very good to have police and military, neither one distinguishable from the other, but trolling down the streets of your town, of your city and keeping you safe. And once you know it, that's what we want you to

do. You could be the driver of the tank. You could be the person exercising your Second Amendment right on behalf of your government, which is now finally instituting freedom in the first Amendment. For once, you could do that, and you could do it all with the power of heavy munitions, and you get to point those at any citizen that is deemed a problem because everybody knows it's just listeners out there. It's got him city. But don't worry.

Everything's going to be taken care of real soon. So I don't know about you. I'm real excited about that, But that was last week. I was talking a little bit about that. It's probably nothing to worry about it. So I don't even bother talking about that anymore. We'll put that to the side, put that on the showf just something something that maybe will come up in the future. Perhaps. Wow, let's see here, let's talk about other fun things that we've been doing online. I've been the remnants

of Twitter slash x. I am still on that platform. Personally. I was late to get onto Twitter. It was only a couple of years ago I signed up. I never really wanted to sign up in the first place, but I capitulated, like the scum that I am, I did that. I was like, well, I guess I make stuff online, so I guess we'll do this. So I, like, like anybody else, I just made a profile and I'm still on there and I use it, And to be honest, it can be fun. It can be fun to

be on there. You can still use it to look up interesting news stories and follow various unique profiles from all sorts of things, from bizarre individuals doing weird artsy things all the way up to giant military industrial complex corporations putting out their products and everybody in between those still and so you know, that's cool. It's cool to do that. It's fun. And we've got the wonderful herbivalized predators herbivalized predators, but that's hard to say. That's the handle that

I've been having fun just talking to on there. They got the idea that their general we talked about this on the show before, but their general idea is, well, suffering is bad. When a predator prays upon its prey. Yes, the prey doesn't like it, It doesn't want the prey doesn't want to be caught by a predator. When it does, it experiences pain, it suffers, it dies because pain and suffering is bad. Our mission

is to get rid of pain and suffering. So what we're going to do is take the predator and somehow, somehow, I don't know how else is gonna work, but somehow I'm going to turn it into an herbivore so it

doesn't have to eat another animal anymore. Now it's going to eat grass or some sort of genetically engineered thing that we feed it now, Like I guess the entire natural world is our pet, and we're going to put out giant footballs of genetically engineered slop that mountain lions and praying mantai and sharks and lions and you know, just name a predator it's going to eat this now or whatever the plan is, it's just a I don't know, but it's just

one of these transibid pages. Is that's fun to get on there, And you know, I've been interacting with that one this past week and that's been fun. I mean, really, that's that's I mean, it's silly, right, It's just a I mean, is this just a thought experiment that somebody's having. I know that they're serious in coming up with this idea. It's like a high idealistic concept that they are defending, and they seem to be honest in doing so, so I'm not going to knock them for having

some sort of honest idealist ambition there. It's absolutely insane, and I don't know how you would even begin to try to tackle such a gargantuan project. Of ending all predation on Earth. I mean, we do things like try to get rid of bugs in our home, and the solution is make poison, spray the poison. And now we're ending up getting sick because we have poison in our homes. Do we haven't even begun to address issues like that,

you know what I mean? That's that's where I come from. I mean, I don't mean to be the ultimate naysayer, but maybe that's what I am. Maybe I am a naysayer. Maybe the world needs that. Maybe at this point in time, at this juncture in history, necessary is to say, hey, look, maybe there's a lot of things that we could do that we shouldn't. But even before we get to that point, to the things that theoretically we think we could do, like end predation,

that's a lofty ambition, it seems like. But even before we get anywhere near that, maybe we even take a step back and we go, well, maybe there's some things that we have been doing for a while that perhaps weren't such a great idea, and maybe we should discontinue does things right.

Maybe there's a few things we've been doing wrong, and now it might be a good time to take note of those, because what are the actual consequences of all these actions we've been taking, or what is it that we've really taken for granted? How many things? It seems like it might be more things than we want to admit. I mean, the more the time goes on, the more that seems to be self evident. And I want to say that most folks are kind of that general sentiment that I just gave there.

I feel like most people are on board with that saying, you know, enough is enough. Can I at least trying to figure out what it is we think we're doing, because I think when we're being honest half the time, we're making a lot of this up as we go. It's a tough thing to admit, right, and we're just kind of like flying by the seat of our pants. And yeah, things have worked out, been worked out, and we've been able to pull off some miraculous achievements, no

doubt about it. We've been like a lot of wild and impressive things. But even some of those things, perhaps you know, maybe there are side effects, negative consequences that we didn't know where to rise that are now our heatheris And maybe there's a few of those consequences that we haven't even really truly noticed yet. Maybe there's some that have popped up that we don't want to notice, so we kind of sweep it under the rug and we pretend as

though they're not there. This is kind of convenient to do that. Oftentimes, it's easy to not deal with things and just say, you know, we're not gonna try to figure that out. We'll just leave it and maybe things will just work themselves out right, because after all, we live in a natural world but seems to be able to maintain itself just fine. It's been doing real good for these billions and billions of years taking care of itself.

Or maybe it hasn't. Maybe the big problem all along was this natural world churning along and constantly creating things, and then you know, new species would arise, then they would become extinct for whatever reason. Maybe that's a horrible travesty that prehistoric species rose up only to become extinct. Is that? Or should we be mourning? Should we should we be a constant? Should

we always be wearing black? Because we're mourning the every extinct species that's ever walked to the earth or swam or flew or floated or uh, you know, every bacteria, every micro organism that's ever existed and then ceased to exist. Do we we're black and mourn every single thing that's ever existed? Do we invent time travel so we can go back in time to bring dinosaurs back

to life? And and we uh you know, Jurassic Park. We make Jurassic Park so that we can uh you know, finally right the wrong of a species becoming extinct and bring them back to life now because it's wrong that they became extinct in the first place? Was that a bad thing? You see? Like? What what is the problem here? Are we? A problem is humanity? A problem is the destruction and degradation of the natural world and the massive project of artifice that we've instituted where we've built up so many

artificial things. Is that bad? Or is that actually? Is that the ultimate good? And what's bad is everything that that came before this that we have to replace all that? Is that what we don't want to do? We want to replace nature? Do we just want to mediate nature so that maybe it's just a little better. It's not all bad, but it's kind of bad. Then we got to get rid of things, what we choose to get rid of, what things are considered anathema, what things are wonderful.

Is death a problem? I've heard people say that it is. I've heard like a demonization of the fact that death exists and that humans shouldn't have to suffer death whatsoever. You get into the life extension topic, and the big proponents of that they talk like that, that's not even like, I'm not even being hyperbolic, I'm just saying what they say. They say that

death is. They call it all different things. They call it like a disease, they call it I forget their exact words, but what they're basically saying is that there's no need for death to even exist for us. We need to eradicate it so that we can finally live the way we were meant to. And then that begs a few questions like, well, what are we are? We're immortal gods? Is that was that always the idea?

Was the of the mythology of the past. You find that usually the gods were anthropomorphized concepts of gods, right, and then anybody looking at that has to asked the question, like, okay, we these anthropomorphized gods? Is the idea behind us that man himself is the God and we're just creating these characters in narrative format to say that and give these idealistic stories of what we

should and could be and what maybe we even are. But it's uh, our creative act is one that's constantly and and and forever throughout generations and throughout millennia, throughout the ages. It's a great it's you know, it's akin to the Freemasonic Great Work concept, right, this giant project that spans untold generations of human beings to culminate in this apotheosis, right, this this coming

apotheosis. And then you get philosophical and you're like, oh, well, okay, if that's what's been going on the whole time, how do you how do we describe time? Do we say that their time isn't the thing? We just have to get to the point that we are destined to get to, which is immortality, at which point, you know, what is time even matter? Anyway? Right? This is the weird, strange point that we're kind of at. I mean, it's just I guess it's the

point we've always been at. Right, This is the continuum of the human race, This has just been on the back burner the whole time. This is the thing that's been in the back of our minds. This is the thing, just the untold story, that weird esoteric religious concept that's been there the whole time. That of course, is complete insanity and complete nuttery crazy. Only cooks talk about this. Only a raving schizophrenic talks about this kind

of thing on a street corner. They're the only ones that actually explicitly talk about this kind of thing. At least, anybody who would explicitly talk about this has to be a little bit skitzo. But then again, you have to be a little bit skitzo to survive in this wack a doodle world. Anyway, I challenge anybody to make sense of, you know, just any given thing at any given time and really, really truly make it make sense,

because I'll bet I could tear it apart one way or another. I bet I could look at something and go, when we when we really analyze this, what it is we're doing, where it is, what we think, what we believe we're doing, and what we actually may be doing, it's ridiculous, right, It's not difficult to do that, and it doesn't take any great powers of perception to see this. It's just this is the predicament that we're all in and we wonder why there's so much depression, mental

health crisis. It will be insane if they if there weren't such a thing. I mean this, how do you deal with everything? And just the mass amount of stimuli that we're exposed to. Now, maybe human nature was never made to be able to handle so much input. Maybe we're a bit overloaded these days. Perhaps that's why it is that when they've done studies and

I'm sorry to cite studies, but I'm doing it that simply say. You know, people that when you go out and take a hike outdoors, like at a park or whatever, you got into the forest, you just do a nice nature hike that actually as wonders for your mental health. I mean, it seems obvious what is going on there. It's like the disconnection from all of this nonsense. It's a good thing and it's something we don't have

the luxury to do very often unfortunately. So you know, I'm guessing a good number of people that listen to this show probably do that sort of thing, you know, take the nature ikes. Get outside, unplug, throw the computer in the garbage, and don't come back for at least a week. I bet a lot of listeners out there do that. So congratulations to you. You might be among the most sane people on the planet if you're able to pull off such herculean tasks as pressing the power button and powering off.

It seems silly, it seems stupid to say, but I believe it to be true. And I don't know. I know that I myself, but you know, there's times where I just like, I don't even want to deal with it, and I just walk away and I don't I ignore the email, I ignore all of it, and I'm like, whatever, just go through the routine of whatever it is I do in the day and don't worry about that. And I believe that that's good to do, at least here and there from time to time. So we have that, we

have that in our power to do. That is part of our great strength, the ability to turn off a mobile device. So yes, having fun on social media, fun online, the online it is. It always fascinates me to survey the digital landscape, think of the past, present and future of it. Women is even about the days of your when the big burgeoning social media site was MySpace. You know, that's reminiscing going back, going

down, taking a sweet trip down memory lane. And I know I'm being silly, but it is useful to remember what that, what the digital realm was, and where we've come, how the different things have morphed, because I mean, honestly, my Space kind of morphed in a way into Facebook. They were different platforms and competing platforms for that matter, But I mean, is one really different from the other. It was just like the same

general thing kind of twisting and turning and going the direction things went. And in so doing, we can kind of see the motives at play that caused the changes. We can see why things changed, how they changed, how

it may have affected all of us. We can see. The history of YouTube is pretty fascinating too, how that started out as a small, independent website that had the clever idea of just being a place where people could upload videos and then other users could watch those videos, share, share their own videos, watch other people's videos. Interesting concept. I mean, it was

something that was bound to happen eventually. Is like the sharing of video and and media generally speaking, the sharing of media through online connected hubs, and

that trend certainly is moving on into the future. All it takes to look ahead is to take stock of what media now exists, what that media is becoming, right, So, what media we currently have, what media is able to be put online, which is almost anything now almost any media that exists can be digitized and put online and shared online, used online, interacted

with online. So almost anything at present can be online. But it's also useful to think of the evolution of media and how it is definitely and rapidly changing. And I don't think it's difficult to sort of, you know, see which way the wind is blind, see what's happening. That doesn't seem that hard to do. I mean, you've got you've definitely got a convergence in the media sphere. You've got all different seemingly different forms of media.

You've got streaming services offering what it used to be described as like television series. Now they're just series, serial narrative format fiction, right, different shows and the ones from the past, new ones that they've created just for the streaming platforms. You have that, You've got old movies all the way from the side an era of film up to now what cinema is now. You

have that media. You have amateur slash home video, and this ties into video that is now shot with mobile devices, and this also ties into the YouTube. I guess if all things that would be posted to YouTube can kind of be seen as a particular form of like independent individual grassroots media of the

people or something. There's that form of media. There is audio media, of course, you know podcasts, radio shows, the show that you're listening to now, online radio stations, music five music, recorded music, all different genres of music and different sounds. There is also video games, which I think, honestly, I think video games are kind of this keystone central

form to me. They're like sort of the main one of the major films of media that should be looked at now that we're talking about this idea of convergence of media, because they've represent a whole lot. They are narrative in format and themselves. And as time has gone on and the games have gotten more complex and the graphics have gone so much better than just visually, they've

become such a huge products. They have a lot of like cinematic elements added into them, and this has been going for quite some time, even with like old video games. I mean that one year we did Uncles New Year's Revolution with the Nintendo game Ninja Gui didn't that purposely had a sort of cinematic

format to the whole game. The way the way the game was laid out, from the time it turned on the game, it showed you all these cinematic sequences in between the levels that you'd play the actual gameplay, you'd see the cinema sequence. You'd press start and start your game, then there'd be another cinematic sequence. Then you'll play a level, then another little sequence where

it was cinematic and telling a story. But you know, they were doing what they could with that with the limitations of the eight bit system that was Nintendo. But it's come a long way since then, obviously, so you could kind of see a blending even going We've been seeing like the blending of different genres and different sorts of media for a while. But because well beyond that into you know, the interactive aspect of games and that there's these media.

It's entertainment media that we watch. We not only watch it to be entertained, as we do movies and series and things like that, but we also interact directly and control the gameplay, and we control the direction of if not directly, the direction of the narrative itself. That's usually pre designed by the game maker. But as time goes on, I think things like that, the limitations of gaming continue to erode, and these games get better and

better, like the old dreams, the gamers dreams of past. I can say because I remember having them myself. I used to play games at One of the big things that comes to mind is that you would always wish that you could interact your character that you play as in the game. You could interact more with the different elements like in the background, the different elements in

the environment of the game. But the limitations of the of the game makers, they couldn't make it so you could interact with every little aspect of what you see in the game. There's only certain things that were the moving pieces that you were able to interact with. Right It's like, oh, why can't I pick up that rock in the background and throw it at that guy? I see it back there, I recognize it as a rock, but

there's no touching it that wasn't programmed into the game. As time has gone on, there's been far more interactivity when in regarding that the environments that these games take place in so an increasing amount of detail. Not just a visual detail, yes, absolutely incredible advances there, but the interactive quality of like okay, yeah, now the bushes look like a real bush that's blowing in

the wind. It looks like it's a video. Not only does it look that stunning, but your character can like actually walk up to the bush, grab a branch off and break it off, and then use it to do multiple different things. Stab an enemy, make make a fire with it, you know, liable it away and make a sculpture or something, you know, like silly things like this. That's the kind of stuff that like completely unheard of back in the days of Nintenna. It's like that's the sort of

stuff as a Nintendo gamer you wish you could have could have done. Gaming is getinst the point where that's kind of how it is now. It's like more and more so that's more and more in the case, like the games are becoming increasingly interactive. I mean still there's still rudimentary compared to where this

is all going. And if you also consider the aspect of generative AI and you enter that into the equation, the things get interesting because if you could integrate the generative AI into the gaming environment, you could conceivably, you know, create a game and interact with it as you desired on the fly, right, because you go to be like, okay, like let's put this into this environment, let's let's do this, and and as as things,

as you add different things into the digital landscape, you get to choose what you can even do with them, right, And and the wonifications of this are are really something else. I mean, you get you get into the full blown virtual world concept pretty quickly. And I don't see how this. I mean, it's a foregone conclusion. This is going to happen. It's just a matter of when. And it's also a lot of questions arise, like, well, what do we do when that's available as the new entertainment

source? Right? What happens when that's the new media? Like when you know that ready player one reality really comes to before and it's it's how it's what we have. Uh, A lot of questions, a lot of questions there, how addictive might be such forms of entertainment? What good might they do? What horrors might they bring the good, the bad, the ugly, what's going to happen. That's something that hasn't gotten a lot of play

this past year. This past year has been about artificial intelligence, and rightly so, the generative AI thing. We've seen that advance very rapidly, and certainly when it comes to the generative AI and the AI imagery, I've been discussing this lately too. Just the advances in that in this past year have really been something else, and so it's just a testament to what we're dealing with. It's like, well, okay, yes, these things aren't here.

They're changing fast, they're evolving fast, they're getting better faster and faster. So I think you know, the writing is on the wall, right, it seems pretty obvious what's going on. It seems obvious we were going seems obvious what we're up against. But obvious the fun toys will have to play around. If nothing else, for better or for course, at least we'll have that could be a good thing. So there's a lot to consider, there's a lot to think about, a lot going on. But it

gets back to the same issue as mentioning before, is just overload. So much stimuli so much, and that's one of the aspects of the gaming that has come up. And I've seen different stories. I actually saw the story of this past week about digital dementia, and it was about this woman who became she got a career, I think in marketing, digital marketing. She became like a she made her specialty marketing using social media and whatnot, and

her services were those for companies. And she was one of those people that was a workaholic. Obviously she was working. She described how she was on call twenty four hours a day, like her bosses would call her at all hours in the night to do these things and just had to do with posting online and getting marketing campaigns running online and always interacting with you know, the subscribers, followers or whatever, you know, making sure everything was being posted

right and all that kind of nonsense. But she ended up being online so much that she got an actual form of dementia where she she I couldn't remember things, She couldn't remember what she did yesterday, things like this, like and that was She had very real symptoms of that. And it was all just because she was online so much. She was in the digital world so

often. And then there's also been stories about I forget, there's there's a medical term now for it, but it's basically when you it's like a form of psychosis, I believe because people who game so much and then they disconnect and they you know, they walk out in the real world, they go out and you know, they go shopping or something, they will actually see like health bars above Different people they'll just like randomly see in public, will

have like a health bottle above their head and things like that. So different things that you see on the gaming screen. They visually see these things overlaid. When they're not gaming, they're just out walking around in public, they actually, like again like psychotic sees things. They see these things. It's like some form of hallucination. It's gaming hallucinatory syndrome or something like that. I forget let's call it. But there's a real thing, and it makes

sense. I mean, when you're immersed in an environment for nearly all of the time, that's what you're being orients itself too. You are oriented to life in your environment. If your environment is out in the Bavarian forest, you're going to adapt to living that way. I'm not saying that's an ideal

way to live either. But if that's you know, if you're born, if a pack of wolves raise you in some remote forest somewhere, or you'd be a different kind of person then you know, the average urban, suburban American whatever, human living in human civilization, modern world. But likewise, the other example of somebody who just happens to be gaming all of the time, like all of the time, your brain will orient itself in such a

way as to survive in that world. And this begs the question of you know, our virtual worlds are things that are just artificially created, synthetic creations that can only be experienced through our sense of sight and hearing. Is something like that, something just like a game? What is the reality of that as an environment? Yes, we could say it's completely synthetic, it's artificial.

But what does it mean when a mind, when our mind becomes so attached to it that it is our reality, you know what I mean? So the old question of the tangible versus the intangible, I suppose it's it's it's an intangible thing. It's it's just a sight and a sound that and as I was saying, those particular senses are what's being stimulated by that.

But I guess when you indulge a certain sense, there's there's something to be said for that, and then it just brings up a lot of interesting philosophical questions about existence and reality and things like that. And I know that the concept of living in a virtual world can absolutely be sold as a good, wonderful thing and perhaps a better alternative to what it is that we're doing in

the material world. I doubt that a lot of that ends up happening sometime in the not too distant future, honestly, as like a better alternative, and not just better in one sense that like you feel better and like why wouldn't you just do it, because like it's more fun and things like that, but also in the sense of, like the social sense, you could sell it as a better thing. Right, maybe you're not creat it.

If you like, build some giant house to live in in the virtual environment, then you decide to demo the entire house and just build a new one. All of the material that was used to build that house. It doesn't go into a landfill. You're not making a bunch of trash and waste that we have to throw into the earth in a hole. In the earth and try to bury it and hope for the best. No, it's just a bunch of it's it's nothing. It just disappears and then new house appears.

There is no harm done. It's an ecologically sustainable alternative to you know, having an actual house. I would be surprised if such you know points weren't used to use use this ways to yes, sell virtual worlds, but also

present them as the best alternative to a life lived materially. Perhaps perhaps the immaterial will be seen as a as a better alternative, and you could get you could be you could get religious if you so desired in seeing seeing this and this possibility, you could say like, oh, look, it's the elevation of the immaterial over the material, right, like that old concept of well, let's make a religion, and let's imagine an idea and present it

to the public and give that to them as the ideal. Like here here, this is God, this is heaven. It's these things are up here and you have to imagine them in your head. But but don't think you're imagining them, because they're actually there. They're real, and they're better than you. If somehow, by some religious act of faith, you ascend to their level. That's a big goal of this religion. That's what you want to do, right You want to go to that better place which is immaterial.

But right now you're trapped down here on earth in the material cage of existence, slaving away under the son. Sorry, but God made us this cage, and God knows best, and it's great. But it's only great because one day we disappear into the spiritual ether and we go there. It's funny that when we cease to exist, when our body dissolves back into the earth, that we're better off. Right. Maybe, hell, let's make that actually literally true. And if you know, the transhumenous concept of uploading

our consciousness into the machine becomes cannibal which it could. I'm not saying it's impossible to do that. If that were to become possible, you know, you just upload yourself into the virtual world, and then yet you donate your body to science, whatever the hell that means. It could be just like throwing it into a field to be used as fertilizer for crops. For I don't know the animals that have retaken the earth that they're no longer eating each

other don't worry. They'll be eating the crops that are grown with the fertilizer of your dead body to grow them. They're eating those vegetable creations genetically engineered to perfection. They're no longer eating themselves. The world is a paradise for all of the little creatures that are in harmony with one another. But you only have to worry about that because the AI machine is taking care of all of that. Then you will have ascended to Heaven, to a better place

anyway, and the earth is all the better for your service. Thank you, Thank you. You have done a service in ascending to the spiritual realm. Not only are you making out and getting to live right beside God, whatever we say that is at the moment, but you're also helping those little creatures which have been themselves perfected, and they're living a much better life without

you. Thank you very much. Again. The machine is tending to things to make sure that the animals don't kill each other, because we can't have that because we're benevolent. We're benevolent. Only good things happen. From now on out. Pain has been deleted, Suffering has been deleted. There's no such things. You couldn't even consume of such a thing, because how does one get hurt in a virtual film. I don't see a way that there.

It couldn't be possible. You can't be nobody living in an immaterial environment could be hurt, right does. It Just doesn't make sense that's such a thing could happen. It doesn't make sense that a kid can walk in a grocery store and see demons coming after them from the game Doom chasing after them. But that seems to be going on. But you know, I all I know is that I don't know anything. I'm just looking around at stuff.

I'm just observing things. That's all I'm doing. Haunter s. Thompson had a like really cool quote about himself, like his life, and he summed himself up as saying that all he ever was was an observer. That's a paraphrasing, but something to say. He's like he said, all I ever was was an observer. That's it, you know, like somebody was like giving him accolades or something like, hey, look, you know, all I ever did was just look at stuff, and then I wrote about

it. That's it. Nothing fancy, you know, And so I feel similar I'm not saying like I'm some great anything that Hunter Thompson being a good writer. I'm what I am saying is all I'm doing. I feel like maybe all I'm really good at just like kind of like looking at stuff, describing stuff, and then when I have to going about my daily business of

getting chores done that I have to do, that's all I'm doing. I don't know what everybody else thinks they're doing, but at least I'm able to understand I think and not be all like not trying to make something out of something more than it is, like oh well loosive. No, I'm just doing stuff that I need to because I do. And then I look at things and I think about them, and I just say, hey, look see this pretty crazy? Huh that? See you next time? And well

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Oh boy, he told me to give it on my hour because it is a special announcement. People, get yourself ready after when this will be effective in the new year Ary January first, this will start. We have my regular day Friday. So why I have myself on the side here with drink so everybody can have a drink and don't have a half a problem to go next day to work. So we can go right back to what we were

doing with the drink right now. We're not testing anything. I'm just having a drink to have a shoeing eleve it, I think for that new news. Okay, so we have this beer that we're gonna drink now Uncle, and this is a celebratory beer. We're going to have to celebrate the concept of the comeback saying every tune on Friday, that's what so yeah, well, so what Uncle is saying is that we will be able to do the show on Friday nights once again, the reason being that my schedule at work

has miraculously changed. It's pretty exciting. Actually, I will say this that what I'm going to be starting to do is the four day work schedule, or I actually have three day weekends and the first day of my weekend is Friday. I have Friday, Saturday, Sunday off. Look at me, I mean looking, look that crazy uncle. I'm living a dream. This is what I was This is what I was actually hoping for. So all right, thought Dad, Jimmy, come on hello, don here, Jimmy,

Hello. We'll see what you got that news. Yeah, that's good. Least Fridays will go back to being normal. You had the same system on Friday. Should be should be on the same that is, if Chuck will have us back on that day we do have today. No, absolutely absolutely. I I'm hearing this for the first time myself. I was kind of laughing though, because I'm like, they didn't even ask me. But okay, yeah, that's what I was surprising and asked. That was the

next question I was gonna ask you. No, that was a surprise. You know what's funny is I don't want to I don't want to jinx it. But it's possible that we could have six hours of radio on Friday if that happens in January with you guys, So let's see what happens. There might be a show four minor show after mine being you guys, So it could be you know something else not saying who or what? Then my show, my usual Friday night calling show then Aaron, then uncle, and that

could be a six hour block on Friday nights, guys. So that that's the potential we have for coming up in twenty twenty four. So there you go. H what what is the official exciting see? I supplse to Chetsey, Yeah, you did. What's the way? I gave it out because he said he didn't want to do it on his so he gave it to meet it out. So what's the first day? What's the first day we could do this? Aaron? I mean, are we gonna come right out of the gate or are you gonna? I mean, because we got the

New Year's Revolution on a Sunday, right, the revolution is Sunday. I have to look at the calendar to remember, So thirty first to Sunday it is, it is, And then that makes the first of January Monday. What the fifth of January is Friday? Well, you guys would be good to go by the fifth. Yeah, we could just start it. Then we're all started on the fife. So as of January fifth, the age of transitions, and uncle, we'll both go back to being live on Friday

nights. Okay, there it is, Yeah, that that that sounds vat's I didn't think of the time of the days. So we're right back to where we were studying. Oh that'll work out great, Okay, excellent. I'm actually happier with that now because you know, all the Sunday plans I had didn't quite work out. There was supposed to be different Sunday shows and they didn't come through. And then I even tried starting one with missus Zoe. And then missus Oh got a job, so she was and they scheduled

her. Even though she said when she got the job, look I don't want to work on Sundays, I'll work any other day. They scheduled her every Sunday as soon as she took that job. So you know, it is what it is. Uh, And Sundays just haven't really worked out, you know, for all my other stuff. You guys are fine, but I liked it better when you guys were after me on Fridays, like, oh, well, we got to hurry up, we gotta get the Aaron.

Let's get to the show. I like it. I like it because I kept saying, oh something, you'll his wook has to change, and his home comes down and surprise us saying, hey we got we got I bet we got a full day week and I have three days with us. Well, I'm pretty good. That threw me away. I can go back to my vegular podcast. Hey, I'm pretty sure, James, and I'm pretty sure Jimmy. James has been asking for this for like a year. Jimmy, haven't you been asking for like a year for us to switch Aaron

back to Fridays? Or Am I wrong about that? Yeah, Jimmy, Yeah, that's it's true. There you go, Okay, see every Friday and we can have a drinks. Yeah. So I didn't pleasure. I was as long as say what his schedules were gonna turn out to be, and and it turned out the way I should have panded. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I wasn't guaranteed, first of all, the four day week, but we made that happen. And then I wasn't beyond that guaranteed to have Fridays my day off, but I did eight. I'm good.

I'm good like that. I made it happen you had une. Yes, it's a seniority. I hadn't even been there that long. It shows you what the seniority is where I'm at. But it's all working out. I like him. My job is just fine, thankful. I like the idea of the four day week. It's gonna be awesome. I don't know what that is. But when Uncle must be knocking into that Mike, I think you got to take a look at that connection, Aaron, because it's making a lot of noise when he touches it here to. I mean, I

know the listeners. So just maybe just don't touch it at all, Uncle, Just leave it there. We're good. Yeah, it just it almost sounds like you remember when Haraldo got in a fight with the Nazis and they broke his nose with the chair on TV and you heard all that noise on the microphone. That's what it sounds like every time, just like you know, okay, just just leave this year, uncle, We don't need to touch it. It's it's just fine. It's good. You're gonna have to

check that after the show because that's woolf. Anyways, Sorry, I don't mean to distract, but yeah, no, this is great, and this is gonna allow us to do a lot of other stuff. Actually, when I was a salary worker, I put it together so that I got in. I had to do mandatory. I was supposed to do fifty hours, right, so I just did four days and I was happier that way. Yeah, and I did you know, just four twelve hour days. You stay one hour extra one day boom done or no, two hours over the

course of the four days, and bag. You know, I was happier that way. Three days off marks out great if you you know, get all your work do so awesome. And yeah, Friday's and Jimmy's not the only one. Other people have requested, why can't you put that show back on Fridays? They tell me all the time that they look for the show on Friday nights. Still, even though we, you know, we always say Sundays, they get the podcast everything, and they always forget somehow.

I wonder how many people are going to start showing up and calling in on Sundays or whatever when when we switch back to Friday. What do you think possible? I hope not. I mean, it's abound to happen a little, but hopefully not too muchads. See. Now he's off, Mike. I don't know if you know that he's off. He's off, Mic. He sounds like he's across the room. Really this now he's back. I think your cable is bad. Yeah, I think your cable is bad.

Jimmy, you you heard that. All of a sudden, Uncle was like not on the microphone, right, I don't know it was yes, you know what I mean? Yep. Okay, Now now I could, I mean I could stop and get another cable. I have one around for someone. Just try not to touch it, Uncle for now for tonight. I haven't. I haven't. Okay, Well I'm just sitting like this. You might have to fix this, all right. Well, okay, if you

want to go to a break. Now, we could go to a break if you want, if you if you need a minute breaking, yeah, I know I have an extra xcel R cable. Okay, this this pluggling to be a four minute all right? All right, So that's that's what we'll do. We'll just take a quick little musical interlude here and return with the Uncle the broadcast momentarily. If you was expressed, my caller, schools

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we got that, wet it down again around? Well, what line you get that sick? We'll get we'll do that. You're live. Okay, we're back. We're back again. We'll have a little different chipper coy here with the wires and all. We had to have a commission a few minutes to fix nothing. We can't fix. We got it. Now. We gotta be here to drink. We gotta be in a drink for celebration for back to Friday. A test one and Uncle listeners, don't worry. You're

not going to lose any time on the broadcast. We'll just go six minutes over this time, six or seven minutes over, and that'll be that for tonight. Okay, so you won't lose any Uncle time because we had a technical difficulty and that's that. Okay, fair enough, all right, So we're drinking a beer out of shop glasses. Interesting this, oh god, this is tough. This is blue stone stone. Blaine evates salt and lime blocker. Uh, it's is meat form. Uh, salt and lime.

Hadded was it made from creative accidents? State real quick creative accidents points out in the chat room that that means that the old cards are good again. So to it, they'll stay the same. They will say the same. You don't have to change the card, don't have to change to God. But what it says is what it is. You got it. What it says is what it is. And he also points out that Uncles Mike was off for there for a minute, so we're all good. That was the

old one. We fixed that problem. The magic of a cable, that's all it takes. Larios. He also, I'm gonna grab this picture here. But remember I brought up Heraldo getting beat up and having his nose broken by the chair. Yeah, right, so guess what he posted that in the chat So let's see. I I got it here. I'm gonna try and grab it if I can, on this cup that's somewhere in here. Anyway, I'll get it. It's a Heraldo rivery thing. Probably my downloads

there it is. I think that's it. Anyway, it should be in the live chat at Chili dot com. Let's see is that it? I'll see a link to it. Yeah, we've got the link up on the Chili dot com. It's it's a Twitter link. I see. What do they get in the in the crack room? Several sides? What's going on? Do they know the good news? Yes, the crack room. Have you heard about the good news tonight? If so, let's us know. We've comment in the o'hilly dot com chat room. You can also chat on

the live stream channels that YouTube Twitch. Well, you can't really comment through Twitter sash x, but you can listen to the show there. That's here the cracker room one one one one creative accident says, which means, yes, he knows, you know, he knew, he knew, he got it. But oh, those are rather twenty seven years ago, eleven three, nineteen eighty eight, I thumped racist skinheads during talk show. Got nose broke, It's dangerous. What a tough guy, Roaldo is. Wow,

what a noble thing to do. That's really something. I've got your hood. I've got his hood, I've got us hood. Who's his hood? Got one hood? I never did see that I've I've who's got the hood? Who's gone to hood? I assume that's a quote from the show Jimmy is how that is? Oh that's Jimmy. What do were you talking about? No, in this case, it was said in Host of Powers when Dr Evil was on Jerry Springinger because the show was my dad is evil and

wants to take over the world. There you go, and Doctor Evil took that man Ku Klux claim guy's hood and was running out, I've got his hood, I've got his hood. Yeah, that guy is funny. Man. I got a kick out of that show, the Powers movie. No, no, uh, now what he said with the with the dating thing? Oh okay, it was the dating thing and he's written in Winning the Dating Game that was a show to the show where they get behind you know that. That's the show I missed though. It was men feeling on a

tour and then they get aggravated at each other. Oh you're talking about blind date where people go out on a blind date and then the little word bubbles are coming up there making fun of them while they're on the date. He said, that's Sherry Springer where they just start Yeah, yeah, that's a dating show. Yeah, so like I did that, I was wondering where that is is akin. Then that sort of got my attention because when the when when they going on the show, they're going on the show and they're

surprised, and I said, what they say that? And then and then man and woman getting annoy me. That's kind of after the dating. Yeah, it's kind of after the dating. You know. Usually it's like the baby daddy is hooking up with the baby mama's aunt or wife or girlfriend. Yeah. I get a kick out of it because the way they react, and you know what, I'm actually in love with her too, and we're both in the year how about that? And then I I sord have missed

that show. I haven't seen it on the show late he catched me out entertaining, didn't you anybody? Did ry anybody? Did you know if it's back? Yeah? Jerry Springer died, Yeah he did. When he died, he died a creative accident. Just said, April twenty seventh in the room. Oh that was this past year. That's right, I know it was recent. I know he died. I don't know that. I didn't know. Yeah, he's gone now, so no more. Jerry well,

uh, copycat is a word that comes to mind. That there have been shows that are similar to his, and so the uh he was a He was a television pioneer, no doubt about it. And there will be other shows that are similar, but of course they won't quite be the same. There will never be another Jerry Springer. So we must lament you know what kills me? Well, wait a minute, lament more and all that it was a twisted version, and and Oprah and what do you call it?

Roaldo and Jerry Spring, all these people, they pretty much came around and said, let's steal Phil Donahue's idea, right, Sally Jesse Rapiel, Ricky Lake, all of them. Right, let's just take Phil Donahue's idea, except instead of doing, you know, let's have an intellectual discussion with the author of this book. Instead of that, it's like, just you know, I'm going to reveal a secret today. You know your your baby ain't

your baby? Yeah, that's how he reacted in the show. I'm going nuts and I'm launching it, and there's no intellectual pre Hen's going on with the Jerry Spring. Is Maury Pulvic still around because he used to do that you are not the father, right, I mean, Mari Puffis is the worst because his is just like the trashiest thing in the world. I feel like he's trying to present it as though it's not right. Am I wrong?

Am I am? I like reading into this wrong, believing that boy Puvich has like up on some moral high horse, thinking he's doing like some social good. Weirder. What was even weirder than that to me is that after a little while, right, the security guy from Springer, which, by the way, there's a final on that game, uncle, if you want to know about it? Do you want to know the final? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Let's go to the score. The

final score on the Chiefs versus the Green Bay Packers. What do we got by victorious over the Kansas City Chiefs twenty seven to nineteen? Oh? Green Bay? Uncle, Tie, it's no good? Are we Are you sure? No? No, I'm getting close to you, all right. That's what I wanted to hear it before she walks in, just letting you know

that's the one I picked. Now. But even worse than the Jerry Springer thing, really quick, Aaron, is that remember the security guy to bald security guy and they started a chance with Steve Steve Steve, I forget what his name was, Steve something or other. Anyways, he gets a show and does the same thing, the same thing, like basically Jerry Springer Light except I mean it's because it's a formula. When the formula works, you use it. You don't change it. You go with it. You know

what the people want, you just give them that. Did you ever go to a tape? You ever go to a taping on one of those shows? Since you're in California, I mean there's a lot of them out there, but they do tape some on the East Coast too. I've never been to a taping of a show. I enjoy let alone the show. I love being missed, going to La tuning to a live show. So you've been to a live show? What was it? The comedy show in in the Ladies let us in. Oh, you're talking about a stand up comedy

the stand up comedy. Yes, I've been a stand Yes we talk. That was so Uncle said about a podcast being recorded at a live venue. That was actually a lot of fun. I like to go to samula that there's any out there, you know, there's always look you gotta follow different podcasts. They do different events, Like Kevin Smith is doing live podcast events

right now in different parts of the country. But you know what we were just mentioning there is you know those talk shows like the Jerry Springer and all that, right to actually go in the audience. Have you ever been to one of those? Uncle, one of those tapings? Have you ever seen a live television show the audience while they're filming it? Have been TV show? Not not not like that? No, only one I've ever been to

a talk show, but I can't remember which one it was. Well, the only one I've ever been to is because and they filmed it in a weird place in Connecticut, was my Tell Williams. Oh yeah, how did that go? It was? It was weird. It was really weird. Like they tape a whole bunch of them in a row too. You know, it's like, oh, this different day or what now, they tape a whole bunch of them in a row. I actually went in a couple

of times to sit in the audience a couple of times. I don't think there's any tape of me on TV with it, but I went to Montell Williams intentionally. I was. I was on the set for Morton Downy Junior, but that was unintentional. I don't know if you remember that guy, Morton Downey Jr. Yeah, I remember him. Yes, I wonder uncle, do you remember Morton Downey Junior, the guy who used to smoke on TV and yell at people. Yeah, I remember him. He started smoking,

he yelled, he yelling people's feak because you're a dirt bag. That's right, I'll tell you that much. You know, that was the one where he was one of the first guys that Ron Paul on TV and stuff too, which, yes, I remember the clip of that one when when Ron Paul ran in two thousand and eight, that clip was making the rounds

to help promote Ron Paul. Yeah. Well, what was really strange is, remember we just talked about the whole thing with the Heraldo with the Nazis, right, is that Morton Downy Junior turned around and faked a Nazi thing that he was attacked in an airport. You remember that? Yeah? Yes, yes, Like people were laughing at him because he's spray painted himself with a swastika on his head with spray paint. Did you see that? And it was backwards paint because he did it in the mirror. Yeah, you're

doing like this. Yeah, they used to film that New Jersey and see Caucus. That's that's why I was ended up there anyways, not intentionally, but it was at what do you call w o R Channel nine se caucas New Jersey. And now how is Jimmy? Jimmy? Now, hey Jimmy, Jimmy, you ever been one of those TV shows when they're getting filmed? Uh, a Murphy Brown. Wait, you were in the audience for a Murphy like you were studio audience for a Murphy Brown show. Yeah.

Wow, I would never have thought that. Okay, well it's a show, Jimmy. What do you think about your boys? Won the game today? Yeah that was a release. Yeah, see should be so close for comfort. Well, we had those pick I had those pick so this way I won in the pool at home pool here that we're playing, I won eight games, so that means you lost that game. So I kicked one of them that game tonight. I think two of them I got wrong and one tonight, yeah, yes, say one, and the Philadelphia lost.

I picked Philadelphia way. Well I lost Philadelphia too, but but I won tonight because I took Green Bay. See what I do, I might have caught up with you. You didn't lose another one too, I lost. I lost the Tennessee. Yeah, okay, I got that one. I won the Dallas, of course, and you sen I lost that one, right. It just sounds like I'm ahead of I'm trying me to brag. I don't know. I'm just trying to I'm trying to figure out the other ones. We have to take a look at those. She way around it,

but I know it's a because she candidate before. I was in second place with seven, so I know that eight came up. Gave me up. Yes, it might be typaker. Never know. For the Monday night game, Uncle Sally Dolls in the chat over at YouTube, so glad to have you there. Sally Doll, she's saying that the teacher is teaching the teachers, which one all of them she's a teacher maybe, I don't know, could be kid. Listen, cool, I want to hear that.

What's her name, Sally Doll? Doll number down and give her give us a cool three one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's three one nine, five two seven five zero one six, Sally Doll, you've been called to call in. Try it. There we go. Well, mines are always up and on the Sunday Night seven, Friday night, Sunday night for dom. This is exciting. Were hand a fine time on the Uncle Show. Uncle. I have been going about searching, trolling on what,

scouring the entire internet for guests to come onto the show. Oh you wait, checking you. It's only a matter of time until the ultimate guests arrives on Uncle the Podcast Live Sundays and also Friday's coming soon. Yeah, that's what you should say Sundays and come soon Fridays. That's what we have to say. Now, that's what days Coming soon Fridays. Cool. I like saying that side in the tub Lol. Okay, so no'll call now, but it's convenient. Oh yeah, yeah, she's waiting to call for

a few more minutes. I mean, on for a couple of miles. It has me on for a little while here for sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, don't worry. We've got exciting shows coming up on the Uncle Show. And of course we have the New Year's Revolution is come two years coming up, the New Year's even New Year's Even, we would alive for four a whole hours. We we had a visit. Went back to my

coun grounds in Florida this summer. I went out went to when he went to checking into his UH thing and we went it was at the same time. It was at the same time, so we timed it perfectly. Yeah, so and and Uh I had one of my guests that met us there. She's going to show call in on the New Revolution, she said, you will. Oh, somebody that we saw in Florida said that they would call in somebody that we saw while we were down there. Here's a call

in Melissippi. Oh, in him. Okay, So everybody get ready because this is what the clackloom and everybody was waiting for. All right, the buts, the butt smacking. Hello, Yeah, that's what it is, the butt snacking. The room might be show. But if she does, I don't know how she does. Yeah, we don't know how that works. I don't know what she does. I don't know how you know what's

fun that does it. That'll be the last Sunday that uncle does. The Sunday is we'll start to add at about eleven pm Eastern and that way we'll get to everybody and the uh, you know, four time zones in the

continental US. We'll say Happy New Year to everybody after one hour of setup and everything with Uncle from eleven to twelve boom, Happy New Year to the Eastern time zone, and then as each time zone gets it to midnight, we'll we'll say happy New Year to him, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is I hadn't thought about that check, but that is appropriate that our last Sunday show is the Revolution. It is one. Then we go into the New Year doing the Fridays and it's like new reborn New Year

Fridays. That's that's an interesting thing that I had I missed until you mentioned it. That's cool. I don't think of that until you guys mentioned that. Surprise that people that works out calendar just so I didn't realize. I didn't realize it was Sunday. Who knew who it would be? Sunday Evolutions. Not bad, not bad for a Revolution. I have to say no hiatus in the desert for Uncle h. We're not going to be doing the show from the The desert has spotty WiFi, so I had wanted to do

more shows out there, but the Wi fi sucks so bad. Frankly that we can't really do them when I'm asked, that's what I'm asking, Well, that was your planning, not until better internet services arise in the Landers area, which I don't see happening anytimes. That would you mean it has to be more people to make it clear? Then how it goes to be just a better internet service provider in the area. There's only really one that you can get out there, and then there's the one that like you do

through Elon Musk is the only alternative. But I think it's hard to even get get to you on some weird list even do that. I don't know how that even works. But that's okay. We can do it from here in Riverside. Riverside's cool. We like it here. Do a show from here in the regular studio. Matter of fact, on the Woodside situation, let mistell you something. They're making money. People, they're making money. Who's making money? You guys? I am limping out renting out this house

and river Side Landers language the house. Maybe I know you got people everybody. Let me introduce my personal accountant uncle uh can I'll let you know all about the financials that are just stellar, doesn't that right, uncle. How are we looking in this quarter coming into the how we're looking coming in this fourth quarter this year? Uncle? Four? Yeah? How are the numbers looking on on landers? Oh? It's looking much much better. It's what

I'm healing from these two. Give in his wife. He's having one in December? How many in December? Five? I believe you said. So that's the the net income outcome? Net income five? What's a gross income at four? Pure? Yeah, yeah, that's right, because you had one that screw up. I call them school subtract the one from five. You get the gross being four from that. Yeah. Wait, there you

go. That's it. That's it everything that you need to know. We're doing great, uh making money to making it, making it, making it with if you learned it. Of course people, you've got to understand. They loaned it from where where you are on the farm. They loaned it. Property is more dispensable than anything. Land, land about real estate, real estate. Land in real estate, real estate. That's where the money is and that's where they Finally these two realized we can make Thankestra money and

have one working. I don't know, try to think getting in but she can sort of relax or the person can relax because there'll be money still flowing. Yes, between one person working and that looking capital gains is able to go. I don't know, I don't know how to coo. That's what it's cool assets. Hey, Jimmy, what do you think about that? I'd say that's good. So you I believe you're I believe you're in the black. But I hope so maybe what is moone? It should be in

the green? Well we just passed the black Friday. Oh oh yeah, that's so we must be in the black. Seeing us how we're in the retail in history. This all makes sense to me. That's all that I care. But Uncles, New Year's Revolution is coming up. Everybody, please call in, please join us, join the party. It's gonna be amazing. It won't be in Landers, but it'll be even better. It'll be from here in our studio. Do a special thing. That evolution is only

one person. It's mine. His show is canceled that time, at that time because mine, this evolution thing that I discovered, just started, was what I built up, ground up, this thing. What I would like to hear a new revolution. We hate these neighbors. I wish they'd call you want to get that one for the revolution? Yeah? Yeah, that would be a nice Maybe a neighbor could be on as a regular guest. I haven't seen have you seen any neighbors recently? I mean I sorted dwater

once. Yeah, but she's not the one. It's the mother being the father and the the doing thing that does it. And so i'm I'm I'd like to, but you say, step away and let you do it. So let me, let me handle that. Let me we have to handle that. Try to handle it before the emolution. If you can't, maybe with my new day off Friday, what I can do is make Friday a day when I go around knocking doors in the neighborhood saying, hey, I'm your neighbor. Do you want to be on a broadcast? Yeah, and

do that. I'll just do that to every neighbor we have until somebody says yes. And in that way, that one put that one guy out of jail. You I was driving around with the hand gernads. Ask him, can you have a neighbor that had some ordinents? You go hand grenads? Oh you're talking you're talking about inlanders. Uh, the the guys out in Johnson Valley that had a bomb that would pulled over on the side of the road with with with a bomb in the trunk. Find. Yeah, I

saw them on the side of the road actually in Yucca Valley. I didn't see this with no. It was only me and my wife. We were in Yucca Valley working on the Landers house and there was a car pulled over by I think it was the sheriffs had them pulled over in the lot of a bank, and I was like, what the heck is going on? It's all like they hadn't tanked off. And then I read a news story

about the next day. It was actually these guys that had a bomb in their trunk and they were these sovereign citizen sort of let's say, conspiracy minded individuals that lived out beyond Landers in Johnson Valley and they had like a compound out there, and I guess they got a little bit of trouble for that one the people. Yeah, yeah, the guys that got pulled over. Let me, I tell you, I couldn't make a story at Lands. In some way, I can make a story for Landers. I think this

wu Yeah, I think I'm gonna do that. Make a story from you know that. You know what I want to say. You were You were with me in that same street corner. There's a bank across the way which we were at, and we were parked in the lot. I don't know if you heard it, but I walked over to the ATM machine and I walked up by these people's truck. There was like a guy in the passenger side of this old, full size, beat up truck with trash all over

the dashboard, and there's a woman in the driver's seat. She was talking on a cell phone, but talking isn't the right word. She was screaming into the cell phone. She's saying like, I'm here on the corner of two for seven and I'm here at the bank. Come over here, yah. And she was like screaming, screaming into this phone somebody like telling them

where they were. She kept saying it over and over. I don't know who she was talking to, but I get the impression that she might have been talking to somebody at home wherever their home was, that might have been not completely conscious due to likely drug activity. I'm guessing I'm assuming a lot.

I'm assuming a lot, But she was talking to somebody who's having trouble listening, and she was trying her best to get them to understand so they could have come over and help her with I'm not exactly sure what the situation was, but I was taking a hands off approach. I just went to the ATM, got my money. I couldn't help. But over here the screaming at the top of the lungs, and then I got back in the truck and left. Did you hear that, uncle, actulutely? No,

you missed that. W is this This was a month or two ago, and it must have been a couple of months ago when we were up there and I was just getting cash from the ATM. But man, oh boy, I mean maybe she needed help. She needed help, but what kind of help. I don't think it was the kind of help I could offer. So that's why again I took the hands off approach. If I thought I could help, I might have stepped in, but I think I would

have caused more harm than good. I don't know what kind of problem though, I didn't remember that. I'm sitting here the rock to bag. I'm here. Call Johnny now that loud again. This is just normal stuff, you know, that's this kind of stuff happens when you're there, and I don't know. It's just a slice of life. It's fine, you know, I don't remember that. That's all the fun of the desert. It's it's a fun place. You know. You did you know her? Huh?

Brushy, I think it's my ex wife down with this. Okay, well, at least I know what it is now, but the exact details. Again, I might have been reading into it and I assumed a lot. I don't know what that is going on. I don't know who she was talking to. I don't really have any damn clue what she was talking about. I don't know that she knew what she was talking about. I'd be surprised if she really did. But you know, I mean, and I don't want to act like I'm judging. She clearly was in a less

than ideal situation, so I don't know. Interesting. I think she needed Brady acting, Brady acting, this kind of Brady stuff. Oh yeah, I sent her to the nunkhouse for three days. Did in that house that would work? Oh yeah, house. I spent on the air straight. One of the most interesting things was the guy in the passenger seat just kind of sitting there with his head down not doing a thing while she was just it just seemed like it was just another day to him. Honestly, it

was another pusson with him. Yeah there's a guy. Oh no, No, they both need some kind of activity going on. I think this is this kind of thing, kind of talk, and they should have that kind of conversation. The desert is. What I like about the desert is that you will see folks like this out there. Then you will see the La sect that are coming out there on their little trip and they all got their fancy cowboy hat and their fancy clothes on, and they're you can spot them

a mile away. You also have the foreign tourists that you can tell that they're from another country too. You've got the weirdo art people that live out there, and it's just it's it's quite a mix of people and characters you have in the desert. And it's always I mean, just going on public is it's an adventure. I love it, honestly. I any like it's

always fun. I love being out there because of the beautiful landscape and it's just like I'm just instantly I feel better, just like driving around, walking around outside just being out there first of all. But then when you go mix and mingle with the locals and the visitors and whoever you happen to run into. That's another treat all of its own, because you never you never know what to expect, you never know what you're gonna see next. It's cool. I like it. I like that kind of thing. I don't

know, uncles. New Year's Revolutions coming soon, everybody. You better be calling in, even if it's for a couple of minutes. On New Year's Eve. Here on ochelli dot Com. We'll be live talk and you get ready, could get some drinks, go back to favor and stack up so I kick. I'll stack up well, have a bunch of stuff like this, yeah, and more. I will be drinking liquor of some kind. I'm sure we encourage you to do so as well, but please be responsible

to not drink and drive. If you drink, have a driver. I've had an amazing thing that popped in my head. I want to ask you Garris about Yeah, it would have been right about where you guys are. Do you ever hear about that screenwriter that disappeared in the nineties and then they found just explore and the aqueducts like a year later or some crap. Fox. No, this does not sound familiar to me. This happened in California, obviously, right, I don't know, you don't. It is a

big story for a while. The guy's name is gay something Shandling, Arnold, Schwartzenegger and dam were out take apart from the search party. Gary DeVore, Gary DeVore, remember that check you remember that? Yeah, let's see, let me get let me get something up on this. Uh, what's happened in the nineties, let me find it. I know what he's talking about. Okay, Yes, screenwriter mysteriously killed in nineteen ninety seven after finishing

script that revealed the real reason for the US invasion of Panama. I'd been working for the CIA and both his hands were missing when they found him in his car. Yeah, oh god, yeah, I do not recall that. That sounds like something Dave McGowan would have written down. I don't remember that story story from the Daily Mail right here, I'll just read from it

real quick. When this Keela remains a Hollywood screenwriter Gary de Boor were found strapped into his Forward Explorers submerged beneath the California Aqueduct in nineteen ninety eight. It brought an end to one of America's most high profile missing person cases.

The fact that Debor was on his way to deliver a film script that promised to explain the quote real reason end quote why the US invaded Panama has long given rise to a slew of conspiracy surrounding the nature of his quote accidental end quote death. It didn't help that Debor's hands were missing from the craft scene along with the script, and that investigators could offer no plausible explanation as to how a carr could leave the highway and end up in the position it was

found a year after he disappeared. Yeah, that's what he's talking about. Interesting, I don't remember any of that. That's fascinating. Obviously, there's a Daily Mail article in the Ocelli dot com chat room. So there you stop that. Sally Das says that he died a little your birthday. You think that, You think that's titillating, Aaron. You want to hear another little fact to it. That's crazy but true? Sure allegedly. Well,

no, this part's definitely true. Let's just say one of the Prime characters involved. It's none other than Tommy Lee Jones's cousin, a CIAYAH officer by the name of Chase Brandon. Oh, Chase Brandon was involved in this somehow. Oh yes, he was indeed doing involved somehow. Oh allegedly. I'm assuming he has involved Like what what? What's the allegation about it? He would He definitely showed up to the widow's house and destroyed her computers, So

he's okay in flat things. Yes, I know Chase Brandon. I know Chase Brandon. At least you have a Hollywood liaison for the CIA. That was his job for quite some time. So you haven't heard much of come to think of it, that your buddy. I haven't heard a lot about which you're talking about Adam that I do think. Not Adam, not Adam. It's about Tom. Yeah, yeah, Tom. Tom just owned me what happened. I'm not good enough to be friends with him anymore. I

didn't know about this. That was his choice. And if I'm not good enough to be his friend, then I don't care give me about choice. It's fine by me. These things happen, uncle, All right, break it to you. So I was going to ask him, did he did he ever find the thing about the tapes? You don't have to ask him because you won't talk to me, Uncle, I'm not good enough to talk to him. That's what I wanted to know. I didn't know. I'm the scum of the earth. Do you know that I thought that I dirt.

I'm dirt, I'm a worm, I'm scum. I'm not worth talking to. I thought that was my job. I would just I would. I would stop talking to me too, if I if I was somebody who knew me. Okay, Quite frankly, I don't know that. That's that's something people. I don't mean to be harsh about it. Uncle, I know, I know, but it's just that what came to me is I was gonna. I was just asking if he yeah that he doesn't want to talk to me, just plan saying send him an email sometimes, don't if

I talk to you. Wow, I don't know his email though. Well, we're almost at You're almost at the hour, you know. Okay, So this is the Uncle Show. Uncle thee podcast dot com is the website at Uncle podcast, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Press the button there, press the button. You get't move information. If you want to be a guest, you can call into the show if you're so inclined, or I will invite you. And if you're crazy, you will say yes when I

invite you. And I look forward to speaking to insane people and shows in the future. And until then, this is Uncle's show. So Uncle, why don't you just bring us home for Indian show? Jim I mean shut yeah, if you're ready to end, we can end it. You know you got Jimmy, though. You want to give Jimmy a shout out before he goes there, then Jimmy get a shout out. I do know that close away moving shut up. To all seekers out there, camp seeking,

thank you? Do you have a shout out you want to give? Uncle? Sure for the room that I had just discussed that he's not a friend with Well, it's not my fault my fault, but it's my fault that I'm not his friend because I'm not good enough to be his friend. I don't know if he's gone about talking about me afterwards. I know he's done it with other people. I can't he has or not. I'm going to shout out to him. I'm saying it. That's good. I'm saying to

him, what's a man? That's my shout out to you, my and uh, these these uh really unsettling news that I just got that I didn't like to hear. It's not a big deal, but I know to me is because I wanted to I wanted to find out about the tapes. Well, I mean and and the answer to your question is I'm the problem. I'm the problem. I don't know. Well, that's only the first thing I haven't heard it. I haven't known that that. It's not the first

time that's been the case. It's not the last. Oh well, and uh, shout out to everybody that has been listening and have called in. And I shurned out to us very good producer out there that's doing excellent job, knowing in about ten twenty days you're going to be busy. Shut out to you the old chicky boy. Here's a show. Bye bye see Yeah