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RE-Upload of Audio from Interview with Dr.Jessica Rose

9-20-2023

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The Chilly Effect. It's sponsored by Wall Street, Window dot Com and listeners like you, Yeah, now the most Underrated Voice and Chucky twentieth day of September twenty twenty three, allegedly according to that thing we call calendar, And this is the show you were looking for, or maybe you just found it accidentally. Either way, welcome to it. It is Wednesday. Now, I'm recording this early. And if you're on the live stream, you're going

wait a minute, he's recording this early on a Wednesday. Am I listening to a replay? Uh? No, most of you will catch the podcast. I know that, but that's perfectly fine. We have information that needs to be covered, stuff that I haven't been able to cover adequately lately because well, frankly, it's rather difficult to sort through the data. It's rather difficult to sort through the the information that's available on guess what the latest round

of what is happening in the COVID nineteen reality. Look, I can't even say this with a straight face anymore. I'm sick and tired of it. Yes, I could not believe the lockdowns. I could not believe any of it, And of course, your regional experience might vary. I'm in Georgia's

so it's a little more lightweight. But if you were in California, if you were in New Jersey, where I used to be from, if you were in New York, man, oh man, your life definitely was run through the upheaval, was definitely given a disruption your business, maybe your job, definitely your life in general. Your family wear a mask, don't wear a mask. What was the biggest problem, though, and what continues to be the biggest problem the shots. Am I allowed to say that? Yeah?

I am, because I'm on my own damn stream now, and I'll say whatever the hell I want. They kicked me off of YouTube, they kicked me off of all the things that wouldn't put up with me, So guess what, I will say whatever the hell I feel like. And I've got somebody here to speak more intelligently to you about this than I can, and I'm happy to have hern. Now. I'm gonna urge you to go

over to our website check that out. I'll give you the links. Obviously, we always do this with the show notes, so you know it'll be there. And I just want to lean forward and look and make sure if you're watching the video. You know, the blind guy's got a blue in different directions while I does stuff regular microphone audio. You don't care. You're just hearing this I know anyway. Jessica's universe dot com. That is the website that I want you to go to first. Now I'm gonna give you

some other links. I'm gonna give you some other data. In fact, I might have to give you a PDF of our qualifications, because I mean, I almost want to read them here, but I don't want to waste any more time because I want to get to the premise. I want to get to the reason here. But first, Jessica, how are you doing today? I'm great. I'm here with my cat as usual. I'm glad

to be here. Listen. I am really happy to have you along, someone who can speak intelligently about this and make sense of the things that, quite honestly, I'm trying to tackle. As average guy. I understand historical documents, I understand literature, I understand music. I understand broadcasting to some degree. Some might i'd argue about that, but I do this thing. Okay, this is all I do with my life is do this show. And this is what I do. Okay, maybe I'm not a scientist.

Maybe I'm not somebody who understands all of the oh information that was put out by Faizer. Maybe I'm somebody who didn't understand exactly. Look at this, you know, I'm looking at her on camera. I think I'm making her go on. I'm putting her to sleep already talking. Oh, I'm sorry, Jessica. Session today my friend happiness from being exhausted. Okay, I'm going to try not to exhaust you further. I want to get to the most basic question here. I mean, what in the hell is going on

with this shot? I thought to myself, I don't trust the big pharma companies. Why I happen to know their history? I keep track of the lawsuits I know about all of those wonderful you know, group actions where hey, listen, if you're somebody who might have died or experienced these symptoms, or if you've had a family member who died, contact our law firm because you might have died as a result of a joint medication. You might have

died as a result of a suicidal medication. You know, something to make you non suicidal, And maybe you had a family that ever kill themselves. Contact our law firm. We have a class action lawsuit for you. Could be joint pain, could be pimple cream that made you suicidal. It could be good God, it could be the thing that gave you a heart attack, even though it was just supposed to clear up some hair on your back. I don't know. It's endless what they did, and they always repurpose

things. We know about their wonderful responsibility in the opioid crisis. I love pointing out Johnson and Johnson who seems to have disappeared from the vACC game. I don't know what happened there, but you know they didn't disappear from the opioid game. They were involved in that, even though they weren't, you know, the main company supposedly distributing oxycotton and all that. Oh wait, we're not here to talk about that scourge. We're here to talk about another.

Okay, So I don't trust them. I don't trust visor. But even looking at Viser's own literature that they put out about this, I'm sorry, it says right in it all of the things that the media. Well, no, it said what the media wasn't saying. Or wait a minute, let's get this straight. The media told us it's going to prevent transmission. It's going to you know, make it so you can't get this. It's going to protect Grandma. In fact, you're a murderer if you don't

go and get this shot. It is not dangerous. It has been tested all of those things. Nothing is wrong with this. You have no reason to question it. Everybody from Don Lemon to Elmo accepts this shot. You gotta go get it, okay, And what is it gonna do. It's gonna keep you alive, it's gonna keep you from getting sick. It's gonna keep others from getting sick. Now, I go to Viser's Own Literature, the main company, one of the main companies in the US, although they're

not acceptable across the globe. They seem to have split this up in different countries. But either way, they have a technology there and they talk about it and they say, this isn't going to stop transmission, This isn't going to prevent people getting the alleged disease, which, by the way, I'm still questioning what that was outside of a strong flu, because in twenty twenty I was coughing up, putting I felt pretty sick. I gotta say it

sucked. I never got a shot though, And gee, isn't it interesting how a lot of weird things are happening, like athletic people are dropping dead all this other stuff. It is a crazy merry go round of stuff that's happening. And meanwhile, again going back to Viser's literature, the media was telling us one thing Fiser was representing something else in their paperwork, and right there is a massive problem, especially from companies who always have to do clean

up afterwards. We're sorry, We're sorry we got people killed. We're sorry we said oxycotton wasn't addictive. We're sorry we put carcinogens in baby powder. We're sorry. I'm sick and tired of it. And now you want to mandate something with government approval, et cetera, et cetera. Well tell me I'm crazy, tell me I'm representing this wrong. This is me, as a layman, going what the hell is going on? And meanwhile, again

I don't even know what all the letters after your name necessarily mean. Again, I could read off the list. I will. If you want to tell people how it is you're qualified to understand these things. If you want to tell people about your analytical experience and skills, which you have a great

deal of by all means. But if you want to just answer that question, you can do that too, your turn, whatever it is you want to throw in here, all right, Well, it's important to point out that, you know, with regard to the Fiser data that we sort of have some access to now, the reason we know that it's sketcher rama is because it was forced Foyer requested, like we we had to have a team of lawyers, you know, led by Aaron Sirie go to bat for all

of us to get this documentation from Fiser, which should have been made transparent to the public considering so many people took their product. So that's one thing. So that the conflict between lack of transmission being the case and us knowing anything about efficacy or safety. You know, these are to this day. If we hadn't gotten those documents revealed, you know, people would probably still

try be trying to say that these things are efficient. I mean, case in point, they some people still are touting that mantra and by the way, that was the same mantra. And I'm not kidding here that they used to promote the letamoide. The second thing I would say is that, like for anybody who's doubting, who who's still kind of buying the narrative, let me tell you something. You'll never have to mandate a product that works.

You'll never have to mandate a product that is actually safe and effective, because it's safe and effective, and that will be very apparent in the pharmacovigilance data and in the people who you know, you meet on the street every day. If your product is not safe and effective, it absolutely should not be

mandated. So in any circumstance, mandates should never be a part of the equation when you're talking about personal health, especially when you're talking about acting yourself with experimental novel transfaction technologies, which brings me to the most important point on

informed consent, et cetera. If people had known from the beginning, if these things had been not referred to using the blanket word vaccine and been referred to as what they are, whatever you want to go with, if you want to go with transfaction technology, gene based therapy, whatever you want to call it, If people had been apprized of some of the nature of these novel experimental products which are absolutely not the same thing as the conventional vaccines.

Nobody would have taken them. I don't think anybody would have taken them. Maybe if you would have fallen for the fear mongering and propaganda, but I don't think anyone would have said, yeah, i'm o Pinny was getting a novel gene transsection technology injected into me, even though I have no idea what that means. I mean, some people were said, let me ask the

first question here. Let me ask the very first question because I want to challenge what you just said, not because you're not saying what I think, but because these are the challenges that we get. How are you saying this is a vaccine? Right? The first thing I said is this is not a vaccine. It doesn't come across like a vaccine because I can read what a vaccine is supposed to do. I'm not even saying that I approve of all vaccinations. I in fact don't. I've changed my view over the years.

I have children, you know what, My first two are fully vaccinated, my last one not. There's a reason for that. Okay, so here we go. Why is there a difference in this is a vaccine or not a vaccine. Help us out with that, all right, So there are many points of views here. The first one that's really important is the timeframe that it takes to actually get a product on the market, a biological product on the market, which vaccines are, and a conventional vaccine for all

intents and purposes, takes between five and fifteen years. It's usually ten years. And there's a really good reason for this because you don't want to mess this up because usually when you get a vaccine approved by the FDA, it tends to end up on the childhood vaccination schedule in the States, and you don't want to be injecting kids with something that doesn't have like a ten year kind of good track record. So you goes through your animal trials. If

those succeed, you go through phase one. If those succeed, Phase two, those succeed, Phase three, If those succeed, pharmacle vigilance, which is the collection of data in real people on a larger scale for a long time, and if you're really good, you look through the generations because you know, if there's a chance that something is going to happen, you know generationally, you really want to catch that one, right, So that's the

first thing that I've been saying kind of sets this apart from being an actual vaccine, besides the fact that it's absolutely not saying thing biologically, let's say, or chemically. These things went from basically from concept to arm in less than a year. Now. You might hear some people saying no, no, no. Lipid nanoparticle technology has been going on for decades, and that's true, but they've never succeeded at creating a lipid nanoparticle that wasn't toxic to

people. So they kept these things and these constructs in the context of terminally ill people, and it still didn't really look so good. So what happened was that the reason they were able to do this so quickly is magically,

and I really do mean that. Wiser and Moderna, the two producers of the modified mRNA products, came up with cationic lipids, which are one of the four constituent facts that make up these lipanano particle bubbles that hold the modified mRNA that are magically not toxic, and they're able to incase this modified mRNA protected if you will, in this little package for delivery into the person.

So nowhere in my multitude of searches, could I find an sts A safety data sheet, which is something that you look up if you're doing any kind of chemistry in the lab. You know, if you're handling a new product, you need to make sure that you know how to handle it, if you need safety equipment to handle it, if it's toxic to the environment, you have to make sure you know how to dispose it. These sheets are

very important to study. And no sheets for the catation eclipids for either of these manufacturers, the s M one O two for Maderna or the Alco three one five or Fizer. Could I find it written that it was safe for use in humans? In fact, I couldn't find one that did not say that it was not for use in humans or animals. So I really have

to scratch my head on that. Now. They do, you know, say that they came up with this ionizeable catonic elipid, which means that it's only meant to be active at a certain pH So at physiological pH it's not supposed to do anything technically, And I'm not going to go into all the problems with that because it's way too technical, but safe to say there's a big difference between the cute little fiser cartoons schematic people and their diagrams and the

vivo situation in the human There's a big difference. So these things, these lipanono particles are one technology that are brand new to humans. Okay, They've never been trialed in people on a scale like this, and they've never been trialed with these modified mRNAs. Okay, Now, these are not messenger rnais. Messenger rnaise are normal. It's like the thing that we all have and we wouldn't be able to live without me. The mediator between the DNA and

the protein. Okay, it's really essential to life, the central tenet of you know, biology or whatever it is, the DNA mrnain protein. Anyway, these are not that because mrnais are highly degradation permeable. Let's know, they're they degrade easily. Okay, these are modified in specific ways. They One of the ways that they modified these things was by taking out the eurrodines.

There's eight hundred and one of them I think in the sequence, and they replace them with ND one methyl pseudo eurrodines, which are very different from eurodines. And also, I'm not going to get into the details on that immediately, but safe to say these things were manipulated specifically in the lab to ensure stability, longevity, and stealthness. They are immuted with stealth qualities. The fact that they have these pseudo euridines makes them kind of invisible to the

innate receptors in the cell. In the undism of the cell, these toll like receptors that sense, you know, part of the process that's supposed to prevent it from like attacking it immediately as an invader, right that that that's like, yeah, okay, go ahead, Sorry, I just want to make sure I understand please, Yeah, yep. So it makes it stealthy. It's like a stealth bomber. So it's it's invisible, and it's durable so it doesn't break down, you know, very quickly, which you know

that's the design. Don't get confused about this. They made these things stable on purpose because if they stick around a bit longer, you're probably going to have more protein production. So another thing about this, Okay, let's finish off the story though. So there are two ways that these things are absolutely novel to human beings and all life that's going to be effective because everyone's shedding this crap notoriously. And they're experimental in the sense that these clinical trials were

shortened and overlapped, and they were cracked to begin with. Now that we've had a chance to study them, they were theater in my opinion, the Phase three trial, which was six months, you know, they did after two after I think it was two months, they unblinded the participants and they injected most of the people in the placebo group because they thought they were saying that it was immoral not to give them the injection. So we lost the

control group, which means we have no comparison. We have no way to determine whether there's going to be any safety issues they or not. So what are we relying on? Were going on? Pharmaco. I want to hold you up there because you're only the second person to represent this to me, and it is it is amazing when I got to see it. They absolutely destroyed the control group by doing this, and I don't know, I've never

seen that before in a study like this. Now maybe it has has happened, I don't I can't claim We've read a lot of studies as far as I can tell. I mean, I've read a few I've read up on vaccines. I'm actually I object a bit to vaccines in general, because they have been brought straight into the children's uh you know, a schedule of vaccines way too fast, uh seemingly for no reason. I mean you know.

I literally almost had a fist fight with a with a with a pediatrician in the hospital when my youngest was born because they wanted to give him a hepatitis V vaccine and I said, well, no, uh no, just no. Well yeah, but it's on the schedule, and I don't care. I said, listen, if you can tell me that there is a reasonable chance that my infant is going to have a tattoo, unprotected sex, or shoot up drugs in the next I don't know, a couple of years,

then I will allow you to inject him. Otherwise, back up, because you're gonna need security. Went okay, and I'm sorry. That's how I and look, I have a resistance. I actually don't object to the concept of vaccination. The execution here has been problematic to me because they have increased

the speed at which they take these things from lab to market. This is before novel coronavirus and by the way you're used to that word surprises me as well, because novel, novel, novel, Well, help us out a little bit and tell us, you know, the average fool out here, help us out. What what do you mean by using that word novel? I mean, does it mean what I think it means, which is, if something is novel, it's rare. It's not generally something that is seen.

It's new. Yeah, please go ahead, new, that's it new to us, Okay, I mean fair enough. I just want to check. This is an amazing story, though, So let's get to this. Why is the control group important? And you know, not not for me really, but I want to try and break this down, slow it down just a little. What is the interesting part about this? Why would you, I mean, you need a control group? I understand this stuff.

Whether you're firing bullets or you're testing chemicals, you need controls, Okay, And I don't think people understand. Why could you give a layman's explanation as to why that control group is important and why it is so amazingly I don't even know. My reaction to that was like, I don't believe I'm seeing this that they just said and were mind, we'll just destroy the control group. That's absolutely ridiculous. I would think that, you know, high school

students would get scolded for proposing something like that in a hypothetical study. But that's what I always say. Like, imagine I wrote up my my research, my thesis, my master's thesis, or my PhD thesis in this way, like I took my control group, which is you know, that's supposed to be an innocuous, inert placebo. Usually it's supposed to be sailing if you're talking about injecting someone with something. I want to get back to that.

So if I started injecting, say my drug group with I don't know, with aluminum, instead of just sailing halfway through, I would have no comparative group. I mean, you lose all of the data for the people who are injected with nothing versus the people who are injected with something that could be causing problems. So literally, what you're going to end up seeing if there's a problem, is problems and problems that are balanced. So they're gonna

kind of like negate each other, if you get my meaning. Basically, what they're going to be able to say when they're doing any statistics which apparently they also don't do, is that there's no problem. There's no above background adverse event report, you know, in the context of the drug for example. Now, I want to get back to something that's really important. This placebo word is notoriously undefined in the context of not just these products, but

vaccines. As far as I know, there are almost no if not no existing like true vaccine, no vaccine placebo controlled These kinds of studies have not been done. So there's no real way to know if a person, child, and adult and elderly person whatever is going to be damaged by some kind of product, because we don't actually have a control group for these, like for whatever vaccine you're talking about. I'm talking about vaccines now like Gardasil.

I believe quote me on this, but I believe what they called a control group was injecting people with aluminum. So if if you have aluminum as an adjuvant in the Gardasil product and your your placebo also has aluminum, do you see what I mean? You're going to get the same adverse So they're going to cancel each other out and boom, everyone's going to suffer the adverse events

associated with the aluminum. And if you're a baby like we were talking about earlier, and your neurology is not quite developed, that's going to have serious repercussions on you in infancy, in in young childhood, so in adulthood. So aluminum absolutely slaughter's brain cells. But look, let's try and get back to every basic thing here. Again, I'm sorry to keep dragging you to

this, but here this is what's important about this. In my mind, if you're to actually have a control group that has, you know, a placebo, what should really be occurring here is that you put them They're under the same conditions. They're of a similar to the group that you're injecting with the stuff, same age. In fact, in the old days, they would put them all in the same hospital so that they could all eat the same food. They'd be exposed to the same air, so environmental factors were

common. The intake of food important thing. You know what, you might have reactions. This person's eating eggs, this person's not. Whatever, they're all they have the same food supply, they have the same water. All of that is now the same. The difference, the only difference should be drug, right, So I mean, I'm just trying to do this again. I'm not a scientist. I'm just saying reading these things, understanding them, and it makes sense to me. This is what happens if we don't

give the drug. This is what happens if we do give the drug. And it doesn't matter if it's a painkiller or it's cops erope, or it's a vaccine. Here's no drug, here's the drug. They should be similar ages, they should be similar, you know, general health. They should be There should be comparisons so you can mirror them. Okay, and you make larger groups because I can have a more diverse study shore. But let's

just say you're only studying people in their twenties. Okay, fine, between twenty one and twenty five, and you make sure you have males females, balance it out between the two groups, and then the only difference in place should be the drug is here, no drug over here. Not add in the adjutant, like you said, which could be a lot of different things. Aluminum. I know people you know think aluminum cans and whatnot, but aluminum is not good in your system. It's not a good thing to get

in there. Okay, not in doses aluminum really messes up as ATA potential. And I can get into what that means because it's really important. But what you're saying is so important. I mean that's why, I mean all of these narrative ors are going, Well, you have to do a randomized controlled trial. It's like, yeah, you do. And the reason why those things are so important if you believe in them, which I do, is because if something happens, if you have an adverse event outcome, you

can blame the drug. That's the whole point, because you've you've accounted for all of the or as much of the background noise as you can. We also have huge exclusion criteriaists when people enter these clinical trials, huge like you have to be, like you said, of a certain age. You can't be pregnant, you can't be lactating, you can't be a smoker, you can't be OBEs, you can't have HIV, you can't have an autoimmune condition, blah blah blah. I mean you have to really be a healthy kind

of young person to participate in a lot of these phase three trials. So

they control a lot of things. Well, well, with the odd yeah, just just saying with the odd exception that like, okay, if you want to study a you know, a new chantec, a new stop smoking drug, you do want smokers, Okay, So you want a common condition, and generally speaking, you'll choose if it's something that is not you know, from a specific thing like Okay, you're not going to necessarily give people that don't have any chronic pain in on the pain study, because well,

you know, what do you do with them? No, you need somebody who has a certain defect in some cases. But if you're testing something like a vaccine, which is meant to be in across the board sort of thing, indeed, your best chances are to take people that are generally of common health and don't have other complications. Pregnancy is a complication, you have some other pre existing condition that might cause you to be reactive to I don't know

certain things, whatever it might be. I'm just imagining it here. Again, it's very important. So I'm saying this is all just a stress in my mind for the for the listener, the viewer, how important it is to have this control group. It's I don't under like just scientifically doesn't matter if it's drugs, It doesn't matter if you're testing the results of a psychological

what you need a control group that's that. Look, this is the people that were exposed to this, this is the people that aren't and you have and that's it. Good. Yeah. Please, And just to add to what you're saying in case people like like, well, yeah, actually not many people know this. It's what I was alluding to before about placebos in these kinds of trials. We have no idea. And I really mean this, and I'm one of the people who's read a shit ton of documentation and

pure viewed literature articles whatever case studies. We don't don't really know what the placebo was that they used in these trials. Okay, they were supposed to use sailine. It's written that they used sailine. However, when you look at the data, like, let's just say you didn't unblind your participants and inject your placebo with the drug. Let's say you have true quote unquote placebo sailine and drug. In some cases, you have more deaths occurring in the

placebo arm than you do in the drug arm. That doesn't make sense to me. I mean, I'm sure there's probably a way to explain it, and I'm just using an example here, but it seems to me from many points of view that I've looked at this from that that placebo might not actually be sailine. So I'm wondering if they used empty lipanano particles, as you

know, without the contents inside. I don't even know if you can do that, because you know, I'm not sure if the catonic whippets would you know, I don't know if the particle would be ionically driven to form without the negatively charged modified emernate. I don't know. So it's like these questions. I should not have any doubt in my mind that they used sailing in these clinical trials in the first place, but I do. Yeah. Yeah, that's a weird thing because one would say, okay, let's just say

they use something that is analogous to a blank of sorts here. That's still no good because you don't know what the body does with it afterwards. Okay, it's stealthy, it's not supposed to do this, it's not. That's fine and dandy, but eventually the body has to do something with almost anything

that's in it, okay, one way or another. So whether it reacts as if it is an invader, and you know, the immune system attempts to care of it, or it becomes something that is integrated, you know, sort of like the old what was it, the hermit crab effect, right, the hermit crab turns around and uses garbage for shells because it can't

find shells. Okay. The human body kind of does this with things, where it adapts and it takes stuff and it either finds a way to factor it out, get it out of the body, okay, to convert it out right, to pass it, get rid of it somehow, or it takes it and integrates it in some way. It might become part of a fatty corpuscle. It might become and who knows what the result of that is

long term. I mean, I'm just saying theoretically, now, I might again not a medical student here, and I'm not somebody with the degrees you have. I don't have a master's in which, by the way, you got to you gotta read this list at some point. Guys. The amount of the amount of education this woman as is immense. And I feel like

a fool even trying to explain this or ask the questions. But I mean, these are reasonable questions in my mind, because how do you even explain if you put something in the body, which, by the way, you keep saying sailine that to me is salt water. A lot of people think

of placebo as sugar pills. But even in the case where you're introducing sugar pills, that's a bad thing to do here unless you're conducting a test that's relevant to that, because indeed, just adding a sugar pill could be problematic. Now, sailine at a certain level is so natural to the body, so long as it's not contaminated, doesn't have an extremely high salt or problematic salt content. The body is it's nothing. It's water. Okay, it's

a glass of water. No big deal there, And you're certainly gonna have to use some sailine to eject the other stuff. So it's meaningless in the equation here. It's not harmful. It can't cause a different reaction. Really, I mean, I don't think there's anybody on record anywhere that's allergic to salt water. I don't think that's possible. Okay, because you got salt and water in your it's part of your body. It just is what it is. Anyway, The thing is, anything you introduced makes no sense.

Now you said you had something else about this regarding the aluminum, and I'm like freaked out already because I've seen under a microscope when they show you what aluminum does when it hits kidney cells, when it hits brain cells, and there are demonstrations about this that I've seen, and it's destructive. So they added a destructive element into a placebo. What in the hell are they doing? And then destroying the control group gives us no long term look at anything

because how long after they initiated the control group did they destroy it? See, this is the thing. If you have questionable actions all over the place, how are you supposed to? I mean? And again, they still were in conflict with what the media was telling us this stuff was gonna do, even with their declarations, even with their disclosures, as you said, we barely got any of them. And still there's a whole bunch of stuff. Oh wait a minute, there is something called VARs too, and I

hope you're going to get to that shortly, so please continue. You're I mean, this is just educational to me, but is a lot to take in here. You don't have a scientific study to back this thing's usefulness to begin with. And I don't mean you, Jessica Rose, It's not your fault, but the people that were supposed to be trusting to give us this life saving vaccine. Remember here it comes. It's great. Now we're going to go back to life. And I understand people's emotional reaction to that,

but they didn't even want to ask questions about this. They didn't even want to look at it, and it just freaked me out. And meanwhile we do start asking questions, and what are we finding many boosters later for a lot of people who had it mandated, forced upon on and had to have their job. I mean this, this is this is craziness. So please continue on with this explanation about just the way this came together. I'm gonna

have to do another part with you. I can see this already because we're gonna we're gonna need another conversation, so so please continue though already the destruction of the control group. I don't know, give us some bullet points here again, I'm gonna give you guys a list of of you know, all these letters after your name and everything else. But you're a researcher. You're you're you know, a scientist, you have a masters in medical science.

I gotta pull this up because this is too much. I can't I could not memorize, and I'll talk a little bit. So like, first of all, I just want to point back to the plus C boat thing in this MR and A L and P tech. There's no aluminum in these products. First of all, to be clear, these vaccines, you know, the conventional vaccines that are basically attenuated viruses or proteins package you know, these are very different things. And sometimes they use these things called adjuvants to stimulate

the immune response as as part of the mix. So sometimes they use aluminum. So that's not what they do here. Some people are actually modified in marnateself is an adjevent. So anyway, but something interesting that people might want to know is one of the other reasons why I have a lot of doubt that the placebo was actually sailing is because a lot of people reported extreme pain at the injection site. Now, like you just described, sailine is just

sailine. It's just salt water. Nobody's going to react badly to this. This is why we use it. We use sailing drips to get people's salt levels back to normal medically, So this is not something that we don't do. It's at a certain concentration. So I mean, my guess is that if it was a placebo, and it could be, I'm not saying it

is, I'm not saying it isn't. But if it was sailine and people were reporting extreme injection site pain, then perhaps the administrator hit a nerve, which would indicate that maybe they shouldn't be administering those shops, because unless you have basic training on how to administer an intramuscular injection, you should not be

freaking doing it. Because even if you're injecting a placebo, because you can hit an artery, you can hit a capillary, you could hit you can even hit a vein if you're really bad, and you can hit a nerve.

There are a lot of nerves that kind of run close to the surface here, and so it caught me thinking that maybe the pain came from something that was in the actual fluid that wasn't salt, or maybe this was bad administration, which I kind of want to segue into, you know, because this is a really really important point of interest because one of the other things we've learned as part of the discovery forcefully is that these once this is injected

into your your muscle, here, your deltoid. They told us that for all intents and purposes, that all of this crap was going to stay at your injection site and maybe go a little bit to your local draining length note in your arm pit. But what we know from animals studies, because they did look at this, it's called pharmacokinetics, the movement of the pharmac thing,

the drug. We know that these things the component parts of the lipanano particle, at least with with a mimicked protein inside or I'm sorry, mimicked material inside. It's like it's a pretend lippin no particle. Let's call it that welcome mimics the V one six two V two which is the the Fizer product. So we know that the stuff traffics all over the body and not

only trump fis but accumulates. It does this in pieces like the adrenal blends, which are really important, the ovaries, which are really important for those of you who don't know, we only have a certain number of eggs, the test these the heart, the kidney, the everywhere you can just imagine,

So that means that the stuff is getting into the circulation. So it started a lot of people wondering if there was some bad administration going on, because the the the dick taught from the CDC is not to do something called aspiration, which is when you you pumped her in, you do you do your ninety two, your angle, and then you retract the plunger a little bit to see if you've hit a vessel, if you'll see a little bit of blood swirling in your solution if you have, and if you have,

you have to re position your needle and try again, because you don't really want to inject this crap directly into a capillary, for example, you want this to go into the muscle and yeah, okay, you're you're going to destroy a few little guys in the meantime. But anyway, there is a proper technique, and it was. It's only discouraged for vaccines not to aspirate. It's specifically for vaccines that are delivered intramuscularly because apparently it causes a lot

of pain to the patient when the needles moving around. So instead of having a little bit of you're getting this injected improperly. That's the tradeoff. So in the context of these products which are big, which are tiny nino fat bubbles in some people, they're getting all around the body. Some some people

are getting this thing right to their heart immediately. If you ask me, well, hell, it's it's not that far away, if you're able to ask rate, like you said, now, I don't know how to describe that, but I've been around iv drug users a lot, and this is what they do. They ask rate with Okay, when they have the plunger and they have you know all that. That's exactly how they You just described how an IVY drug user are always shoots up, but they know that they're

in the vein though, right they are mainlining. They're trying to make sure that they're in the main in the vein. Okay, So that's exactly what you do. So when you're making intermuscular shot, you're exactly supposed to be not doing that. So, I mean, I know that you just said this. I'm putting it on the street level, sorry, but I mean that's what it is. But that's what it is, and you could probably I think they've shown this in some Hollywood films and stuff too. It's a

reality though. That is the way it looks. A little bit of blood comes up in the solution boom, okay, But that's when you're trying to hit a vein with this shop. They weren't supposed to be doing that now, as you said, If they are injecting and moving the needle around, oh I'm in a vein and they pull it, yeah, that's gonna cause injection site pain, okay. And I'm wondering, ire, is there any possibility that this is poor administration? You do have to be trained here,

you know, poor administration. There's no doubt in my mind. I mean, you know how many people are actually properly landmarking like you're supposed to find this bolly bone here and then one, two, three fingers and then the baby fingers. So there's a technique to landmark the position, and then you're supposed to go boom like ninety degree angles and you know, pull a little

bit check and then pull like fast administration. And so besides that, I mean even the physical, the mechanical part of getting that fluid into that space in your tissue. Did they freaking you know, did they handle this product properly because I can. I really I've worked in labs my whole life, and I know that some people like when it says invert gently your your little

tube, your Eppendorf tube. You're supposed to invert gentity because you don't want to disrupt things like membranes and stuff, and so you have to be really careful. So you're supposed to do the same thing with these vials because they have these I suppose sensitive to temperature and all sorts of other conditions, fat bubbles that have to be, you know, in a solution. They have to be in a colloidal solution, like suspended homogeneously in this sailine once you

add some more volumes. So how many of them are shaking it, how many of them aren't shaking it at all? How many of them are taking how many of them aren't adding the diluent? You know, there are so many reports and bears. And this is the vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. It's a pharmacal vigilance database of improper injection due to the person not adding the diluent, not adding the extra sailine that you're supposed to make up the final

volume. So they're and this happens in babies, They're injecting a like a multiple dose of this crap. It's preposterous. I mean, the things that are going on, and I know that these are going on in addition to this mechanical getting it into the right place. Who the hell knows? This is my point. Who the hell knows? Here we go? Nobody knows? Right, we have the problem of trade. For two, because these things were supposed to be maintained at a certain temperature. What is to say

that these are not lined up on a table? What's that they're supposed to be? But what the hell happened to that? I mean, you remember in the beginning, we needed minus seventy degree freezers, which are like not something that most flaps have. My job had them specialized protein biology lab. But it's like these things are really expensive and not everyone has access to them. So I think the reason why they changed that. I might be wrong

about this, Anyone's free to correct me. I never mind being wrong, but I think they changed it because they realized that nobody had these freezing facilities and they're like, yeah, normal freezers. Okay, it seems but isn't it interesting how things get adapted after the fact. Okay, hold on though, because there wasn't just that. My big question here is when they said

that they had these vials which had multiple doses in them. Okay, how did you know what the concentration was as in that viot like in other words, a minor mistake, A minor like just an overdraw. Let's say, now you put some of it back, maybe you draw some of it back up. You also always got to make sure that you're not putting an air bubble in there, etc. There's a way of handling that is any of that, And I don't see notation on this kind of stuff. Did you

like that? I can tell just from the bird's eye view leaves rustling in the wind that is veirs. I can see that these problems were notorious. Like I'm telling you, I've done specific investigations of the adverse events reported for zero to four year olds, and one of the biggest problems was they'd get the product with the purple cap on it, and you're supposed to dilute it,

and the people were reporting to vers the oops. I didn't dilute it, so I ended up injecting them with you know, this concentration double thest or whatever the hell it was. I know that this is happening. And if you're product, let's just say it got freeze thought a few times, because you have about six doses per viol right, Let's say you have two people come in in the morning and boom, boom, and then you put it in the freeze. You have another person taken up boom, and then

you know three three times. So imagine what happens. And this is pure if you study bla bla black. Happens to the lipidna particles is that they become they degrade, they become gloopy and globuli, and they release their contents, which changes the zeta potential, It changes the charge distribution, it changes everything. So it's like, what are you get? Are you taking off like a big glob of crap? Are you taking up mostly the viliant?

Are you taking It's exactly right what you're saying. And the problem is there's no way to know. There's no way to regulate this besides having exceedingly competent people doing this. And because this was done so quickly and given to so many people in a short amount of time, I can guarantee you that there were tons of people who were not qualified to be doing this, who made

mistakes. Guaranteed you see, I guarantee that. And I also guarantee that some aware doctors were also saying things, and they weren't even on the side of trying to report, trying to cause the problem. They were just saying, look, I got a problem here because it says there's this many doses in the bottle. I've got extra doses, short doses. And I'm saying to myself, how is that possible? Does that mean that, you know, like, okay, maybe I'm again not a doctor, not a medical

guy. Okay, fine, you know, maybe I just think of things in terms of cups of coffee, Okay, And you know what, if you let your coffee sit long enough, it'll settle down and you'll end up with sugar on the bottom. Stuff like that. Right, Okay, Well it means it's all the same, It's exactly right. I mean, one way or another solution is a solution, right, and one way or another, a mixture is a mixture. So at some point you've got to properly

stir your vaccine. I'm just saying, right, in order for it to redistribute. There you go, that was what you were telling us. And I'm saying to myself, well are they not keeping track of this? Because if this was precise, then no doctors should be reporting I've got six extra doses in a bottle, or two extra doses in a bottle, I'm short three doses. That makes zero sense. If everything was measured precisely and administered precisely, there should be no more less guy who owned a bar, like

was that cavalier with his alcohol products? Can you imagine that? It's like put a shot in a little bit oxtra in there, you know what I mean, It's like, what do you would be like? That's so why

where we like this with these things? You know what? And I've listen, I've worked in clubs and bars, and perfect point is that, you know what, if you've got a bottle of whiskey and it's like, okay, every bottle of whiskey I can serve seven customers, and now you start sending me bottles that only serve five customers, first of all, and pissed off because you're probably charging say, and secondly, I'm asking questions as somebody's

stealing shots. Okay, because you can precisely measure it. Now I realize, yes, there may be spillage, a little loss, this kind of thing. Let's just say an accident. Somebody drops a needle and it breaks where the needle hits the ground, they say, okay, dispose of that. Things like this can be accounted for, and that's yes, So that's it. But if it's not being accounted for, you telling me you used everything in this bottle and you're still coming up with extra short something is wrong

with the equation here. Where is your precision? This is what bothered me because it leads to well, why is there extra? Why is there not enough? Does that mean that some people might have gotten higher concentrations lower concentrations? And I'm not even aware of all the ways they're supposed to handle it. I'm thinking it's just common sense that this should be precise based on a set of rules. By the way you handle this, you inject this much of it, it has to be drawn up to a certain amount, you

measure it this way. I don't know. Again, not a scientist, not a doctor, but I'm thinking I'm asking a rational question. And if they can't get these sorts of things straight and they change. It has to be like this, it has to be like that. It actually does this, It doesn't do that. I'm sorry. I'm trusting this lesson less as I go, you know. And meanwhile, what do people say, Well, you're just a conspiracy theorist and you're just somebody who you must have seen

something on Facebook and it change your mind. Like, no, I don't go to Facebook very often. Uh, and people on there are not changing my mind. I'm using common sense here. Something is wrong when this stuff is coming out like this. And as you're pointing out a lot of real world you have a lot of real world experience, which I love. I do too, And and maybe that's kind of what I don't know. Maybe that's why we're seeing stuff because we're we're applying all the other world, real

world experiences to it. Because you're exactly right, You're you're you're your ivy, drug users, things buying on, you're, you're you know, the alcohol things buying on. It's it's all of the sen stuff when you think about it. I mean it's not, but it is. So it's like, yeah, just apply common sentence. People, Well, but here's the thing. But but here's the thing. The fear got people, even some

people that were asking these questions. It was the fear. And look, I often say that I don't feel as those psychology as a science and more I don't think it ever was. But quite frankly, it's not an exact science in any way, shape or form, because although it can be weaponized. To see, sociology, even though it's not an exact science, either can be weaponized along with psychology, and what do you find? You can definitely steer a crowd, and you can steer a large portion of a crowd

anytime you want, especially if he sees upon something like fear. People were afraid, people that even would question these things. We're starting to say, Look, I don't want to take a chance. I don't want to die, I don't want to be sick. I don't want to get my elderly parents sick. I don't want to make Grandma sick. You know, That's what they were saying. And I'm sitting there going, look, how can you not question this whole thing here? If the solution is weird, the

idea of what's going on is weird? What you know? And what about that? Yeah, help me out with that there. I mean, give me the scientific basis. It isn't win like I can kind of help, but there isn't one. It's like, I'll put it to you this way, Okay. If we had actually been facing zoonotic pathogen which means, you know, jumps from an animal to humans, which usually means bad news because we don't have the equipment immunologically to deal with this. So usually means a

lot of people die quickly. But we weren't dealing with that. If we had been authentically dealing with that, every single government, every single nation, would have protected their people by saying, do everything you can. Doctors and nurses and healthcare workers, do everything you can medically to help every single person. Throw even the kitchen sink at this shit. Because the course of action is always to check out, repurpose drugs, to use off label drugs,

use hunches. If you're a doctor, if you're a trained physician in the ICU, you have some kind of intuition going for you. You're on the front lines, as everybody liked to say, in the early stages, you know what's coming before you. You get really fast at figuring out what's helping people and what's not we had that happening, but those doctors were suppressed. So if this had actually been what they were saying it was, that's the

course of action they would have taken. But what did they do. They banned ivermectin, They banned hydroxy chloroquine, they banned all of the cheap off label drugs, they promoted from desevere ventilators and injections brand new technology that, by the way, made a very small handful of people very rich. So yeah, that's how I would say, sumarize it talling. It's the whole

thing is so appalling. I mean, how how after three years of flattening the two week curve or why are we even talking about this anymore, let alone starting to see the resurgence of this COVID crop coming back to us now. I mean they're they're talking about lockdowns again and masks and and uh and it's all starting again. Am I'll still on the call. I think maybe I got cut off. Somebody's frozen, and I don't think it's me. I'm definitely by myself here, do yes, But I think our friend is

frozen. Yeah, I think he is a little bit all right, He's got a star. Most though he does very serious, very seriously. I put on pause things. Let's get him back on the line.

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