Ochelli Effect 9-15-2025 SNAFU NEWS 1

to you about? Actually, I have a need cause I see a void out there, and you know, I'm one of those male types that figures, you know, I see an empty slot. I gotta fill it that undone. Anyway, maybe I'm de done, done with all the jokes because there's just a lot to get to and not a lot to joke about. And I got to be frank with you, it's depressing. It's depressing that I can make no friends with either one of the two scheduled podcasts

for tonight. I was actually hoping that that my friend Porkin's there, that Pierce Redman would join me tonight, and he might join me in the next few days, but you know, who knows anymore. At this point, it's getting weird out there. I'm having a hard time book and

some guests. I got other people pestering me because there's a group of guys that want to come on my show that somehow feel and neat and think they will reach the right people regarding how Christianity is under attack, and I just reject their stupid premise to begin with that Christianity is just under attack worldwide. I got bigger fish to fry, you know, And so you, honestly, if you're listening to my voice, this is your native tongue,

we got some bigger problems. Jellobi Opera would say. Anyway, maybe you're not a punk fan. That's fine. I don't mind, and I don't mind what you're a fan of, because I'm gonna sit here and do what I do, which is tell the best closest truth I can possibly muster given the weird world around me. And you know that's not always easy. So maybe I'll do these in reverse

order just for fun. Part one of the snaff who News And if you don't know what snap who is, of course, situation normal all aft up and oh, by the bye, I just might give up on bothering to try and keep this one clean. Or maybe I'll do the next one and not bother to keep it clean. Either way, I'm not broadcasting on FM. I've got two different offers to maybe become part of a network, but nobody will nail down to schedule with me. And even when they do supposedly nail down to schedule, they just

want me to kind of do some extra work. And I see the idea, we really should just become our own little you know, boutique vultrons of independent media, because there's companies out there now forming under the premise that they can do that. But you know what, I'm talking to you guys about podcast and promotion, and none that's got anything to do with me. Anyway. I'm on the decline. You know why, because I won't compromise what I think

this job is when I started out to do. I'm not going to sit here and throw you somebody else's line of BS. Not because I have my own line of BS I want to sell, but because that was the point of beginning this. No more BS about a lot of things. And I gotta say, as I observed the Charlie Kirk thing, I mean, that's gonna get deep, and I'm gonna do a whole episode on that because I have to. But anyway, before we get there, we do need to talk, okay about the gripe on the

left and the gripe right. We got to talk about all of that, because you can gripe to the left, you can gripe to the right. And o'kelly's still gonna do the time work again. Okay, we've reached peak asap Rocky horror Pictures show in living color memes on the National Broadcasting Broadbanded Network in name it sounds like I'm, you know, bitching about NBC, But no I'm not. I'm talking about we have a unit party, we have a union network. Now they may be doing separate jobs, but

I'm watching them now. Unify now, come to a uniform understand And really, the prophecy of Marilyn Manson is about to hit us. It's all about killing strangers, so we don't kill the ones we love. But the other problem is you and I could argue about who deserves love and who is loved, and we may love different people, different types of people, but definitely different people and who's

worthy of love. And while we're sorting that out, there are people that got no love for people at all that are also killing strangers because just the way it is, it's the way it's always been, but it's actually coming

more and more out into the light. And I got to say, it's also fascinating to me that people that used to worry, literally people that used to worry about the accidental nuclear war, right, you know the wargame scenario where the computer Skynet decides, you know, that we're the problem. The computers recognize that to them, we are the enemy.

So AI destroys us that sci fi fantasy and reality and things coming to fruition and it appearing to be prognosticated or what's the other word for that where they talk about it, you know, all right, prophesied because prophecy and all that, and I'm not doing blasphemy here yet, stay tuned, But all those things that they prophesied, feared, projected, pre authorized the programs for literally creating a thing called sky net, literally creating Soma after they read about it

in I Forget It was a brave New World. I think it was a brave new world. Could have been nineteen eighty four, because again, these things are all becoming a blur. Why because they fit together better than any cheap lego set. All the pieces work with each other, and whether you want to make the death Star or not, your you'll working with the death Star pieces, and you think it's creativity time. You know. I remember that War

Games movie too, which was another thing. You know, the old adage about the nuclear war and the fascinating narrative, Hello doctor Falcon, you know, in that old computer voice, and you know, eventually the conversation and a doctor Falcon says, hello Joshua whatever. The conversation goes on into you know, the only winning move is not to plague, right, all that, and then I don't know, maybe there's a couple other things. Ali sheety smiles or jumps up and down so that

you can watch her very young body bounce around. And Ali Sititi was still cute then, I thought. But Molly Ringwold was a hot one anyway, I digress. You know, among the brat pack girls, you know, the only move is not to play, And josh I would say, how about a nice game of chess. I feel like I'm trying to say to you people, how about a nice game of chess? Because I don't want to play this game anymore. And yet I see the failure of the analysts.

I see the people that you're paying, the people you're supporting Joe Rogan struggling to understand the simplest concepts now going, hey, maybe Trump lied about some stuff. And I gotta say that now because all of my podcast bros Are really pissed about the Epstein thing, when that, although it is a major and important point, is not the point of what we're watching now. It's not even they're distracting us

from Epstein. No, they're distracting you from the much larger and I mean because nobody noticed the amped up pounding that Keev took right and nobody noticed they started hitting the government buildings intentionally. And how do you bomb a country for three years miraculously there's still anything left to bomb.

I mean, I know, we allegedly bombed Afghanistan for twenty years, but we all knew that we were bombing stone in the stones back into the Stone Age, so you know, I mean, that was like the open joke of like Hey, look, if you're feeling lonely, try with the local sloat over there. She's easy. Oh, we knew that was a given, because you know, got to stop the heroin and got to stop the terrorists, even though bin Laden was dead at some point way before we pulled out or out of there,

but God to keep it going. And oh, by the way, troops guarding oo opium fields made a lot more sense, And it really did. I understood the business sense of it, but the fact that every media outlet, well this one's better than the other. They segregate things, they simplify things, and they customize it so that it all sounds good to you. But I found it interesting when I watched a mini freak out because everybody's still doing the you know,

the freak out over Charlie Kirk. But I saw a mini freak out over the weekend, and it's what got me started. And I wasn't even gonna touch the Charlie Kirk thing anymore. I wanted to let it go, but the country won't, so I got to put up with it. And news is news. The deal here, though, is that there was a mini freak out over the weekend and at first, I thought maybe I was looking at some AI because you would think so too if you had this idea that, you know, there might be rules or

standards too. You know what goes on on the you know whatever they call that Fox show. I'll look it up in a second. But you know lbj Earn A. Hart and kill kill me because I call him kill me Brian kill Mead, by the way, because kill me was what I thought he said the first time I heard him say his name on television many years ago, and I was tuning through and I used to actually regularly stop and long watch box, and this guy's name was Brian kill me, I thought, But no, he's not

doing that. I mean, we got killer memes to kill Mead, you know from Kill Whitey that they're complaining about to kill the homeless now, And no, it's not invented, and it's not a misquote. And the whole scene is interesting because you got three people on screen at the time. Right, I'm gonna give you the visual because I want you to grasp the audio. And I know other people have done this and had liberal outrage, but I have, as per usual, a slightly different take on it than you know,

the liberals or the conservatives. Yeah, I tend to think for myself, so it comes out a little different when I'm done doing analysis that in some cases is objective and in other cases my prejudices are clear. But at least I try to recognize where I've got objective or prejudicial views on things right in front of us. You know, you had Lawrence Billy Jones, the third okay, right American libertarian political commentator. I believe would be the handle that you give that guy, and he's a co host of

Fox and Friends on the weekday edition. I guess Ainsley Earnhardt. Okay, I think I said her name right. You know another co host. She's been around a while. You know, what was she born in seventy Okay, born in seventy six. I'm taking a look care So she's four years younger than me. So she's almost fifty, and you know, she's got to be happy to still be on TV because women hit that age and they're usually not left up

on a lot of networks. And I guess that's a progressive side of Rupert Murdock's operation right there, and especially because she's survived there joining that TV show since I guess, I don't know, nineteen ninety eight somewhere in there, and you know she's done some other stuff, but I mean, really, this is their main gay, I think. And Brian kill Me again, the guy who I thought said kill me

when I first heard his name years ago. I don't know when he started on Fox and Friends, but I feel like he was a founding member guy, you know what I mean, Like he was an og on Fox and Friends. And this exchange started, and it begins the audio you first hear LBJ there, you know, Sorry, I had to do it because I just see it line up so perfectly. Lawrence Billy Jones the third, So I see LBJ, Lawrence Billy Jones on the left of the screen,

not left of the aisle. Again. He's a proclaimed self proclaimed libertarian, and most people, I guess call him the libertarian. Ainsley Earnhardt she's in the middle. Only female there, you know, blonde girl. I think she's pretty. I don't know if she is my standard whatever, but I've never heard anything particularly impressive or digressive from her, so she is what she is, right. She's a pox news host. Brian kill Me, who's usually the goofball, and I don't take him seriously.

I don't know if it's his aloof presentation, although they often give him very serious stuff to read, almost like a wink, I take a break on the fourth wall sometimes like and don't take this entertainment news shtick. I do so seriously. I really always thought of him as a lighter hearted kind of guy. But maybe I was quite wrong about that because in this segment which was aired, let me see, just to double check my notes to be sure I'm accurate, because otherwise will yell at me later. Yeah,

it was aired on September tenth. It was a Wednesday, so almost a week ago now. But I'm listening to this on Friday and going what the hell? And again I thought somebody faked it. But anyhow, enough out of me. Here's the segment. It starts with Lawrence there, goes on to Ainslie and then the capper is placed upon this sewer hole by kill Mead. So let's listen at least once.

there's veterans, there's children on the street too. Don't forget, you know, for those of you that weep for every child unless they're born in the wrong country, American children, American servicemen, a former right, people who've had to rush of bad luck. Then there's the other side of it where people are like, yeah, they're just drug addicts and people that want to be on the street, and therefore

they don't want mental health either, so screw them. And that is one of the predominant American ideas about the homeless, people who are unhoused and whatever politically correct nonsense it is. There's people that are outside and don't have a roof over their head period, which causes problems for trying to get fed or clean or you know, get your crap together. Man. So it ain't easy if you don't got a home base,

and not everybody has a home base. Now, I know there's a lot of people out there to believe that they only do that by choice. That's what the majority is. They're wrong, but I guess that helps them to reason it. And there's people like, you know, like Charlie Kirk would say, hey, you know what, people are poor basically because they're lazy. And there's no such thing as starving children in America because starving children don't exist. We have fat children in America,

no starving children here. And also, people that are hungry are only hungry because they don't want to work and they're lazy. And that's not my problem and shouldn't be the government's problem. And even if there is a problem, let them go to the churches and let private charities take care of it, because that works. That is the Charlie Kirk in a nutshell on this issue, and that

is a fairly conservative common idea. Screw them. They're lazy, that's why they're hungry, that's why they have no house, that's why they're dirty. And they're also jerks because they're drug addicts, alcoholics and they like being on the street. Some people live with that idea. It's got nothing to do with the reality anyway. Lawrence here is uh going through that, and he's got solutions in mind. Ainsley here doesn't give a solution, but Lawrence and kill meat will again.

Let's just listen. I gotta I gotta shut up and let it roll. But I wanted to put the context on it. That's what was being discussed, and angrily, intensely. Lawrence is like this and this needs to happen, and he's like literally doing the counting on his fingers first, this verset that this, he's got an order, and he's

got orders. He makes his case, and nobody paid attention to that because it would Brian kill Mead caped up the conversation with with with I don't know why somebody didn't drop in my anyway, let's just listen to it together and I'll shut up.

is reasonable for people that are inconveniently homeless. I know that there are some people that I'm very sure if anybody bothers to listen to this point, that are going to say to themselves, yeah, damn right, that's what we should do. And there's going to be the other, alleged side of the equation that goes, no, we have to always take care of in the bleeding heart side. I posit to you, I present to you. I offer you the idea that both sides are doing a destructive and

idiotic dance. You help your fellow man. Not for the motivations laid out. The government solution is not the best, but no help is also not a good solution. And let the churches figure it out not the best solution the societal You want to turn over the societal issues to the church. Well, there are places where they do that, where the religion is what runs the country. I don't want to live there, and America is not supposed to

function that way. So that's Lawrence's point of view, though, So let's get into the responses here, because it was, you know, what do we do with homeless people and mentally ill people? And you know those people, Laurence says, give him, offer him some help, they don't take it. Go to jail. Here's your program, here's yelp. You don't want it, jail? Okay, interesting attitude. Where does the conversation go from there? And it is a short one no.

Pay no attention to that, but they did. Uh. Sparta was sort of like that, if a baby is inspected at birth and it's got a defect, they would leave it out on the rocks for nature to just kill it. Right. Oh the Chinese, Uh, you know, too many babies kill that no problem. And forget about killing babies. He's talking about killing anybody who is oh, mentally ill. No problem. Talk about a permanent solution to a temporary issue. Anyway.

There was an outcry, predictable outcry from guess who, people that want to oppose the right because this is a good fight to take to the right. But it's not, because this is not just a right wing attitude. And look at libertarian guy, the gentleman all the way to the left, Lawrence there. His eyes are kind of wide open at this point. He's staring at kill meat intently.

I think he knows kill me just you know, you fed up, right, I think that's what's going on, but not with disagreement, just like you shouldn't have said that. Ainsley in the middle starts putting up her hand as if to try and pause this situation. See if she can, you know, redirect it a little bit, and she's trying, but it didn't get much better anyhow. So what happened reaction wise? I mean, the predictable liberals are upset, of

course they are. You know, you're supposed to not be upset by that if you're like a touchy, veally person of any kind, even if you're I don't know, compassionate Republican, it would. I don't think that it's an absolute certainty that someone cannot you know, take it seriously, right, Okay, anyway, that is what it was and was what it will be.

But you know, there was other reactions, not just liberal but sort of other people that got a little upset, like, hey, should a guy on TV be promoting Gila Home that a good idea? Is that acceptable? Oh? We just fired people for being disrespectful to Charlie Kirk's memory, but endorsing the slaughter of a vulnerable population of Americans. Mostly, I don't think anybody's going to say the homeless. You know, that's another interesting thing. They do never quite go at

you with the whole you know, undocumented homeless. And that's the funny part too, because frankly, the homeless have trouble getting some services because you have to have an address to get things like food stamps. In most places, you have to at least have some sort of address. The mail stuff too, And I got to tell you after a while, people that have homes don't like to let you use their mailboxes and stuff like that. I know this from experience. But anyway, there were articles, and I

was just looking for the articles. I thought I had them pulled up on my tabs here while I was talking to you, but frankly, I don't see them. But there have been articles written about this. There was outrage about this, and he went on Fox to apologize. But I got to talk to you about this apology. But first let's listen to it and hear what we hear.

the Carolinas? You went from that to let's talk about all of this type of people, which of course is a primary tactic of you know, politically manipulating and engineering outrage. You take one person or a small group of people and you make them look larger, and you make them larger in the discussion so that the impression is left by the listener. This is psychological techniques. I mean that

propagandas of all makes and models have utilized forever. You know, whether kill Me knows it or not, he's well trained in it. Because they pivoted to what do we do about a huge portion of our population? Yes, fractional by you know, many standards, and some people would say it's not a priority unless they live in an area where there's a lot of homeless people around, then they think

it's a priority. But reality is, some people think it's a priority, some people not and some people agree with, well, you know what, stick them somewhere or kill them. They just do so kill me. Was being honest on air, frankly, a little too honest if you want to, you know, maintain any sort of you know, commercial sponsor that has a I don't know, a heart that has actual humans running their organization, and they're like, do I want to

endorse this? Well I'm not human, it doesn't matter. Or somebody goes, damn, I don't even want to be associated too. Let's just exterminate the people that are inconvenient. See how I turn that into a more general idea which fits the circumstance anyway, just saying it's one of those things that happens. And I gotta say, you know, Frankly, a lot of people like, go, well, you're a comedy, Well you're a fascist. You know the common ground there between

communists and fascists. When they get in charge of large populations, they get their hands on the means of production and either they keep it or they control it, and they

profit from the government themselves. But you know, restrain, detain, and erase many of the people, and you know, crush them up and grind them into Hamburger meet to feed to the attack dogs and you know, redivide their wealth as it is, and it could be you know, instead of just you know, knocking over one millionaire, why not knock over a million people with a dollar and you get your million dollars. Anyway, communism and fascism do a dosy do all the time, like it's Freaky Friday every day.

Slightly different business goals, true, but strangling their own people and given a list of others in big letters is like every place serving food. Yeah, they happen to serve drinks too, just comes with the deal, you know, It's just the order of things. Anyway, one would think his apology might have to have some sincerity on it. There

might sound like there's contrition. If you look at this guy's face, you can definitely read see his tones, and he's doing all kinds of things that many different interrogation manuals will explain to you. What's really happening here. He doesn't mean that he's sorry. He might be annoyed by the fact that he's got to apologize and realizes that this looks bad, But the truth of it is, he's not sorry about it. He's like damn, this is the right thing to say. But you people's snowflakes, all your

snowflakes watching Fox, and it was what's wrong with you? Anyway? I'll continue his apology and then replay it once.

you unify with our way of thinking. This guy's annoyed that he's apologizing. Did just listen to it uninterrupted by me one time? It's like twenty or thirty seconds long.

me been there longer than Trump been on a political scene. Realistically, this is this guy that's who's responsible for what he's saying, and he is spreading an attitude and an idea and encouraging it, reinforcing it. And I promise you there's a lot of people not saying a word but thinking to themselves, what the hell this guy told the truth. This is what you should do. What's wrong with you? Promise you that is part of the Fox viewing audience, A significant

portion of their demographic is going bride kill me. Didn't have to apologize? What the hell? Come on, bring Hannity on, waste my time with Brian kill meat apologizing for telling the truth. And here's the strange part. I agree with you. We know what that channel is, we know what it's doing, and therefore, guess what, you shouldn't be shocked. It's like being pissed at the Porno Channel because you saw a penis. I can't believe they had a penis on the Porno channel. Really. Anyway,

I'm gonna get into a couple other things. I don't think I'm gonna do any more audio playback because I can't help myself looking at this going. I mean, how much further does? It doesn't matter if you're left or right, so long as you have the right paradox in hand, you know, and you can gripe and killing strangers is totally acceptable. Now, if this bothers you and you think this is a bad idea, to promote it, reinforce it and all that, well, you know, you know what's what?

I have a Rolling Stone article which I could read to you, and I'm not gonna bother because screw it, what's the difference. I gotta link to his you know,

to his circumstance this whole thing. And I also have a lengthy explanation about something here that I found out too that nobody commented on, which shows a definite change in our reality at this point, and that is that, quite frankly right, lbj over there didn't comment or didn't realize that he was basically saying, yeah, amp up mass incarceration. I don't know if he realized is that the idea

every time we amp up mass incarceration. I mean, the Democrats taught us this, so I'd figure he would know it. Since he's supposed to be a libertarian and he's on Fox, for Christ's sake, he should know that, you know. I mean, maybe something else has changed here. Maybe Fox News is now agreeing with purvy Bill, cheap state Hillary, and sleepy stuttering Joe because the ninety four crime Bill was this kind of thinking, Hey, if we lock people up harder,

that'll fix the problem. I mean, I don't know if Lawrence Billy Jones the third knows that an amalgamation of left and right. People that studied law, do analysis all that stuff. You throw their stuff into an editing blender. And I wrote a piece. I'm not going to read it to you. I don't want to read my own

writing to you guys. But I assure you that bullet points like mandatory life sentences, you know, the three strikes deal, expanding the death penalty to include more things, and then by the way completely you know, neutering it with the constant and never ending, you know, set of possible appeals that usually you know, used to be only only the rich could afford. But now there's enough pro say and enough you know, pro bono people to help you either

do it yourself or they do it for you. You know, it's not just the one group of people that goes out and gets some people off when they've been wrongly convicted and are sentenced to death, but long sets of appeals, and we have a busted system. I don't trust it. I don't believe it properly, and we know it has executed innocent people. I don't think that is worth doing

with a system you can't trust. So until we figure out a way to clean the corruption out, I can't support the death penalty personally, if it was clean and it functioned properly, I would if you did things right, you might be able to hang some people on the courthouse lawn, no problem. Now would I wanted to be public executions that we should show to children like a Charlie kirkshow panel had said a few years ago, sponsored by Coca Cola and all those jokes, and he said

his day would be improved by watching public executions. I mean, that's just that's the guy everybody's celebrating like a saint. I don't think that's true, and I wouldn't be all for it because I don't think it would teach our children much other than you know, I mean, I don't know. Maybe we should go back and do studies about when people did watch lynchings for things that they thought were perfectly you know, absolutely capital crimes. Rick doesn't matter the crime.

But when they hung people like that, and you know, families would bring picnic lunches, maybe we should study how that worked on the minds of the people that were there and the children. There must be an available set of data somewhere on that. No, maybe not Anyway, I got many an attempt at zen and maybe when we come back, I'll try my best to give you some other audio pieces. I would love, by the way, absolutely love to play. Let me take a look here. I

know I had a beautiful piece. I mean, I'm almost tempted to try and see if the copyright God's bucked me. The Temptations get Ready fused with Black Sabbaths, Children of the Grave. It's a mash up and it's really great. I'm gonna put it a link to it in the show notes right now. And hey, we got some other things to go over, maybe some other audio, et cetera. I have no idea why people still like job. You know Rogan, that guy did Joe Rogan experience. Maybe we

should get into that for a minute. Maybe maybe you know what, I'm gonna load up that stuff, take a quick break, and uh yeah, I think the o'celli effects should return after a couple of messages. And I don't know, maybe I'll light one of my cigarettes. I don't have many, but what the hell, I might as well do they What do they say? Smoke them while you got them? Stick around? Be right back.

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Here's your moment of zen. And then they would do something and be like, when your neighbor gets running, buy a car. At least he's quiet. Now you're a moment of zen. I want to say that was Saturday Night Live, but I don't know. My memory's hazy on this. Anyway, you gotta give credit to Donald Trump for the new math, at least my opinion. You're going with us?

of drugs. But hey, Trump didn't know anything about that, except now he kind of does.

keep track of that news event? Nobody cares? Right? Who cares that he blew up people because they were Venezuela and they weren't Americans. But if they were Americans and they were the wrong kind of Americans, good also, right, especially if they're homeless. That is I think a Fox News if I was playing. But it doesn't matter. I

found some other things more relevant and interesting. You know a former guest on this show who called himself Lady Maga, right, Ryan Woods, I believe was his name, and he's still around best I can tell. However, it's just not in me right now. Is Lady Maga USA hanging up her heels? This is an article in you know, on nineteenth news dot org, and it's under the lgbtqre label. In case you guys forgot, well, you know what, you'll figure it out. As I read from the story, and I will read

from the story quickly. Two months into the president's second term, the Trump loving drag queen's support is waning. In the show picture of Ryan here and Lady Maga spruces up in a restroom at twenty twenty Conservative Political Action Conference in Oxon Hill, Maryland. Okay, And that is what the pictures from. Ryan Woods hasn't put the blonde wig on since November five. It just doesn't feel the same. Quote. I can't say that I'm disappointed yet because we are

just what two months into his administration end quote. Woods told the Nineteenth recently by phone that being said, some of the people he's chosen to be in his administration I am not excited about. Woods is talking about President Donald Trump. Usually, enthusiasm is the first word that comes to mind about Woods and the current president, not that the two know each other personally. For the better part of five years, Woods has exhausted himself and stitched, excuse me,

stretched his finances, serving as the ultimate Trump cheerleader. Lady Maga USA a drag queen who Sashet's from rally to rally, posing for pictures, smiling haters and trying to prove that gay people can be conservative too. It's hard to overstate the campy presence of Lady Maga USA. In a sea of red hats and camo T shirts, Lady Maga stands out and flowing nineteenth century gown often stark white with bows and ruffles, pops of red, white and blue, and

an enormous blonde wig. She looks like she stepped off the set of quote Mary Poppins. End quote. She spirts sports, not spurts, sports pearls and a silk sash. Her makeup is only slightly overdone. Drag queens may have a reputation for the raunchy, but Lady Maga is so earnest, so

old fashioned. She seems almost wholesome. And that's intentional, which has taken great pains to create a character conservatives would want their kids to meet that would hearten back to a bygone hearkened back to a bygone era, and he has inhibited, inhabited that character proudly. She has made national headlines for this portrayal. This is until this year. Quote It's just not in me right now, and I'm not exactly sure why. End quote. What said pulling away from

the article. I had Ryan on the show Nature Boy booked him a while back. Were talked about this Lady Maga, the drag queen comes out and you know, full on gowns and stuff, and a lot of these red hats were having their kids take pictures with the you know, the drag queen. This is really interesting. Take a picture with Lady Maga. Where's a sash, like as if there

was a contest one to become Lady Maga. I don't think the red, white and blue covered drag queen was ever endorsed by Trump, but nobody threw her out of anything or anything as far as I know. It's kind of like those black conservative that waited for Trump at the last political convention where they thought he was going to stop by their joint and they'll get together, and his motorcaate blew ride on by them. They didn't care.

They were just happy to be there. So anyway, I don't know, I'm gonna try and get hold of Ryan and thus lead Lady Naga and see if I can interview Lady Maga or Ryan, because you know how it is, sometimes you got to interview the character or the actor, and that's what this is. An actor doing a character. Yes he is gay quite but a gay conservative anyway.

Speaking of other contradictions like the comedian who isn't funny and the podcaster who's not interesting but somehow popular, Joe Rogan has had some troubles of his conscience as of late, and maybe you will get into another comedian before I'm all done. I'm gonna try and close this out in approximately an hour, but we'll see how it goes. I find the most recent Joe Rogan conflicts internal and externally expressed. Finally,

something interesting on his show mostly on board. A guy who knows nothing about most things, asking almost everybody and getting the best guess somehow maintaining popularity. And I cannot and have not sat through an entire episode. Is even if he interviewed one of the people I love to death, Even if you told me there was a full two hour interview with Ozzy Osbourne, I'm willing to bet I could not sit through Joe Rogan trying to interview him last time. Joe Rogan was useful as a media presenter

in my mind was what fear factor? And even Nanny wasn't funny. I mean, they keep telling me he's a stand up comedian. I've seen his stand up and I really think he should sit down. But enough out of me. Let's listen to his conflict of conscience.

choose what you want out of it. But uh, he's talking to another one of these like kids who gets onto that jubilee and you know bits I'm gonna put twenty people in front of me. You know, it wasn't just conservatives like Charlie Kirk who would go on Jubilee and be the hero against you know, the outnumbered surrounded a lot of these liberal guys who are using the same template that Charlie Kirk used, except obviously different material, but exactly the same template those people medi asan people

like that. He's got one of these young kids on there who's you know, I don't know what his deal is, but you know, nineteen eighty Vibe called and said they want their wig back from this kid. And Rogan's you know, bald, tough guy, ultimate fighter or whatever. He's a bro bro bro anyway, and I know a lot of you guys listen to Rogan and I'm sorry, but.

on headphones with that that wig. Anyway, Rogan, they're sampling Rogan from a Young Turks thing looks like to me. Yeah, and uh, then yet another YouTube commentator is commenting on it. This is literally like exponential layers of content creating, and I'm being part of it now, content creating, content creators commenting on content creators anyways, and so on and so forth. And it's a tongue twister. Say five times fans.

And I find it even more hilarious that the Democrats want to pick it up, because I think all of it is just a chef because if they honestly, honestly opened up stuff like this, they find that neither the right nor the left is immune. Probably Donald Trump is involved, so is Bill Clinton. Yes, indeed, so were many media figures.

Others were just sucked in and brought in proximity for blackmail purposes, and others were brought in just because Epstein had an ego and wanted to flaunt the fact that he was able to get away with the young girls. I mean, let's be honest, that's what was going on.

Michael Wolf talked about this recently. And I don't take everything Michael Wolf has to say his gospel, but you know, broken clocks and such, and Michael Wolf might be telling time on a couple of pieces, So just saying he's probably got a couple of right times a few times of day maybe it's just but tailing off into the Charlie Kirk universe, of course, and reminding everybody in the world that there is this entire ecosphere of you know, proved me wrong, bro, and it's I don't know Charlie

invented it, but I gotta say there's many people jumping on it, and frankly a lot of them, or guess what, not your conservative buddies. It's a ton of these liberal TikTokers who are dead serious about saying, you know, Kamala would have been a better choice. Kamala would have been a better choice. I don't know where that distortion of reality comes from that she was a choice at all. And frankly, even so, I'm not happy with Trump being there. I don't think the solution in any way, shape or

form would have been Commala. I'm not happy with that guy. You know this if you listen to my show. But she's not a viable alternative to anything. You know, there's a mild difference between the different boots they want to step on the back of your neck with. But you know, whether it's a jack boot or a croc, if it's a four hundred pound monster, it's still gonna hurt on the back of your neck, man. Matter of fact, the jack boot might kill you quicker, so that might be

a little more merciful. And they both want to control you because you're not allowed to say anything that would really truly offend them, because right now they want to prosecute people for being disrespectful to Charlie Kirk, who is not a government representative, who wasn't a soldier, okay, but they want to prosecute people ruin their lives, dos them take their jobs, everything, all that cancel culture stuff that they used to bitch about from the other side. They're

doing it, so you know, they just it's just timing. Eventually, whatever to totalitarian method of control the left uses, the right will use, and eventually you can't even identify them because they've dose. He does so much you're dizzy and you don't know what begins where from the beginning of anything anymore. That's the way it rolls. Anyway. Bill Burr is a comedian I like, and this is where we're probably going to get into some you know, not safe

for work language. So there's your warning and I might have to attach it as you know whatever. Harsh language labels. I got to slap on it as I distribute the podcast, but it is what it is. I've warned you if you're live, and I know that all two of you will be fine. But you know, the truth is this

is Bill Berr. I like Bilbert, and he's gonna say some stuff here that makes sense, and for the most part I got to agree with him because he's talking about one of the biggest what do you call that, you know, coming of age like rights of passage for these either left wing or right wing proved me wrong debater online, TikToker. I'm making shorts where either I own the libs or look at how stupid I can make

the Trumpers look, you know performers out there. One of them is literally called Parker get a job because somebody probably told him that at some point and he made a job. He's got a whole team of people. They do this together. Some of these guys are going to do, you know, they're own tours. Alex Jones is going to pick up you know, Alex Jones is going to bring

up the bloody mike for Charlie Kirk. But also so is the guy who wears yamaka all the time a conservative commentator, he's been blessed by the White House to go out and do it. Charlie Kirk's wife. I mean a lot of people are going to pick up his fallen standard. But the truth is this is all based on a very common template that works for both sides, and works for if you want to go debate sci fi nerds over whether Star Trek or Star Wars is the superior universe, you can probably make a tour out

of it and go on this thing called Jubilee. So Bill Burr, who tries to ignore this stuff and is really one of those guys who's an idiot that watches football and bangs on his drums and now raises a baby and has a wife that he you know, has to deal with and has anger issues and has shaved his head and is too white to go into the sun. Bill Burr, well, I think is funny. Hell made one of the best cartoons ever. Is for family. I endorse him. This is apparently part of his Monday Morning podcast, and

I'll just let him explain and set it up. I think it's worthwhile.

on somebody, and you're all done. And he's talking about Medi Hassan, who I've been recently watching. I started watching this and got into this universe and really didn't realize

how large it was until very recently. And then right on time after I just got into it and was looking at the left and the right and the stupid of it, which it mostly is, I found Medi Hassan, which is, you know, a guy who's been become a naturalized American citizen who I think is a I don't know, Muslim Pakistani who actually grew up in England to start with, but came here and naturalized as an American citizen. And

he is a Lefti's lefty. He left MSNBC because they didn't like his stance on Gaza and it was too much to say that, you know, Gazza was a genocide. So they took away his shows, told him that he could have a job still as a commentator and all that, and Mediasan said, you know what, I'd be better off doing my own thing, And now he is. These guys build whole media entities off of themselves, and I got to say, good on them if they can do it. I mean, I don't agree with the message, but the

methodology is sound. Build your own business, and people support you and pay you to do this, why not. I would take the job, but I would definitely provide different material than Mediassan or Charlie Kirk. Problem there, though, is that nobody's enraged enough to spend their money on what I would go on tour with. It doesn't it you know, it doesn't equal rage. Bit like Bill Burr was saying, anyway, sorry, I keep interrupting.

to your own tribe. It's kind of funny. It's like the much much more boring Survivor except debates, but they're not really debates anyway. People don't really debate. That's another weird thing. There's no debating anymore because debating has more of a goal to it than simply winner, and people work with the winner aspect of it all the time. It's like, we're going to go into a circumstance where

we're going to compete, and here's the rules. It is Greco Roman wrestling, and they go, okay, I understand, and then they hit you with a bat and they go I win, and you go, yeah, that's not the point of this, and they go, yeah, but I won. I have just summarized ninety percent of what people call debate anymore. Again,

another wrong label on something that's happening. But this is happening, and this jubilee thing apparently is a moneymaker too, so again people want this rage bait, rage, clickbait, click rage bait whatever. Eventually, I guess you graduate to master baate anyhow.

So they decided it would be funny if they just broke into their regular newscast and just said that aliens had landed and they were starting to fuck shit up down here and people were listening, people committed, and all they had to do, the big thing is all they had to do was turn the channel and they would hear that it wasn't on the other channel.

portrayed us happening in New Jersey. So it is amazing. Even when they have the president, you know, the person playing the President announcing stuff during the show. It's clearly not the president. You know, there's a hundred different ways to figure out this is a problem. Indeed, waiting on occasion for some of the breakaways and the stuff that's clearly fake. And how is it that a guy is now narrating all by himself in a wasteland in New

Jersey where everything's been destroyed. There's a lot of different ways for you to figure out after a couple of minutes that you know something is not real about what you're listening to. Uh, and it's it's pure mythology that they put They bleeped out the word suicide, but people committed suicide. I don't know that there was a there was no mass effect on this. There was a fair mass effect of a bit of panic, and some people did start to like freak out and go other places.

And then they found people that weren't listening to the radio, going well, there's nothing going on, let's check in Jersey and see if anything's blown up. No, make a phone call. They had phones then anyway, you know, stuff happened like it was only on CBS away and it was orson wells did it? And I mean have you ever look, have you ever seen a picture in the in the Ocelli office here there's a record hanging on the wall

of War of the World. It's one of my favorite things of all time because people did take it seriously for a good fifteen minutes and there was a minor freak out and there were people in New Jersey literally looking for the landing Martians and stuff like that happened, but there wasn't mass death and serious chaos and you know, didn't cause like the Great Blackout of whatever, nothing like that, but there was enough of a mass effect. It was kind of like and they had to apologize for it

and all this stuff and orson. Wells, Hey, look, you know, it was my equivalent of just you know, going out into Halloween and saying boom. They almost didn't record the damn thing. And for years people have had different, you know, a couple of different recordings out there, but the original was made on an acetate and had crackles and stuff in it like a record, because an acetate record was

pressed like from the live recording. Anyway, CBS for years, like you know, sold this as a cheap thing, and I remember they played this for me in third grade. I had an interesting third grade teacher, but I fell in love with this War of the Worlds like this

is great. Somebody did Feeder of the Mind so well they convinced a good number of idiots that an absolutely fake alien invasion was happening, and they announced at the beginning of the show that was Another thing is if you tuned in on time, you would have heard this is a radio play of wars and Wells doing HG. Wells. War of the World's adapted from modern times. Anyway, we'll continue on with Bill Burr's commentary real fast. But he

is not educated as to War of the Worlds. He gets the spirit of it, but he has all of his facts wrong, which is something Bill Burr does a lot. But he's still funny and some of his observations stand up even with his poorly informed views. But comedy can do that. When you want to be serious about transmitting the real world to people, you might not want to

stage it in theater of the absurd. And whether it's you know, this thing that they're doing with you, Bilee, or what Bill Burr does on his constant podcast and stand up career in cartoons, listen, I respect Bill Burr because he doesn't tell you any of this stuff is real.

at this point. I mean, you know, I'm trying, but I mean I'm good at the analysis, but nobody wants to hear me. And you know that's okay if it's for the one listener out there. Cool, dude, I'm with you, and you and I understand each other. I used to have regular Joe listening regularly, but he's busy. He understood me, and I think I think he got replaced by one one new guy, and you know, cool, we can do that,

and everybody else just hates on me. And most people tuned out of this already anyway because they're pissed at me for attacking Fox News or whatever. And I'll probably hear about it on Friday if they bothered to listen.

guy who thinks he's white. Anyway, Bill's about to describe this, and I think he does a good job with it.

are they calling them now? When you investigate a tranny transvestigation, right, one of the current leaders in the transvestigation community, where you're try and figure out if somebody's a transsexual or transvestite or transitioning one way or another, right, because that's the politically corrector. I wonder if Candace Owens thought that Charlie Kirk's idea about black women not being capable of complex thought. I wonder if that affected her, she has

any thoughts on that. Maybe I should check into what Candace has to say about Charlie. I don't know, might be a thing to do. Doubt she's see people on that side the equation. The one thing that is very, very different. They don't attack each other as easily as the left wing just goes circular firing squad. Let's go anyway, back to Bill Bird is very very solid analysis here.

Now you have super nerds like this fucking Ketamine Nazi Tesla guy, you know, suing his own company so he can get on the creative get created by credit. Yeah, that's what's making people unhappy.

studio now, but he used to be. He would just open up his laptop and record and it was a podcast boom, you know, no music, and he would and he had plenty of commercial sponsors. He did me undies and weird stuff and he goofed around with the commercial reads and his sponsors loved it and it was pretty popular. I don't know if it still is, but I do catch episodes now and then, and it's pretty good in

my ass. Anyway, I'll give you a link to that channel on YouTube, because obviously I had to get it from YouTube, because that's why they were, you know, editing out to see you next Tuesday word and leaving in all the bombs and doing that. I'm gonna have to mark this. I might as well just say kunt because that's the word he was using, because I'm gonna have to mark this explicit anyway for Apple and everybody else. So it is what it is. Anyway, I've got a

part two in mind. I'm gonna take a quick break and arrest and see if I am up for doing it, and check my messages because I did invite a guest but I don't think he was ready to come on today, so I probably won't have him. But maybe i'll do my really true Charlie Kirk retrospective in the next podcast

here live on the stream. I guess you'll have to stick around to find out, and if not, check your podcast you know, feed, and there might be a part two already in progress right there on The Ocelli Effect feat.