Ochelli Effect 2-20-2026 Friday with B Pete and Callers

out the audio. The audio remained the same. If you listen to the audio podcast and you enjoyed that way, great, But we're gonna add video, We're gonna add shows if we're lucky, we're gonna add formats. Because I'm bored and apparently so are the remainder of my listeners. So it's time. And besides that, we're not getting anywhere with a bunch of things. I mean, I had to cancel on Larry Hancock last night because I was throwing up at the

time I should have been recording with him. So I had to say, Larry, I'm puking at the moment, can't join you. I don't do that to Larry if I can avoid it. But it just couldn't be done last night. But I'm thinking about it. And you know, all the serious work I do, all the serious people that I have brought on the show, all the serious information that I've taken my time to vet work on research, is really for naught. So it's time to change up what

we're doing. Maybe deliver the message in a different package. Maybe come up with another way to break the paradigm by not participating in the same stupid thing that everybody else does, because that's the one thing that bothers me.

There is no point having an independent network if all I'm going to do is parrot stuff that is said elsewhere, right, because you can get that guess what elsewhere that bigger budget's, bigger names better social media has spread the word Why should I bother to cover the same ground you can get everywhere else? So, you know that's my attitude. Maybe it's wrong. Maybe I should just join one of the teams in whatever way you want, you know, take up the infohoers, you know, mantle run with it. A lot

of people have done Alex Jones Light for years. Some of them have made careers. Some people have made careers added next to nothing because they just use a particular format and they buy some views. They do a little of this and that, and the next thing, you know

is legitimate people. And I've been watching and observing all up and down various platforms, people that have shows that say nothing, do nothing, and yet are well supported by super chatters and you know, massive donations and subscriptions that give them nothing in addition to just you. You can call yourself a supporter of this, and I can't. I don't understand it because even when I do a news show, I do a lot of research. I check on articles, I go over stuff. I don't just do one thing

and people forget, you know. I also used to chase down stories directly when people were talking about the police mishandling people and throwing people out of their houses. In twenty fourteen, I went and got some of those people who had been through experiences who were part of viral videos and brought them on the show. Not an easy task all the time. Those people, when they get a little media attention, not easy to track down. When I wanted to discuss the whole militia members thing that was

going on in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. You know, pre Trump, I got militia people on the show, didn't I?

chased down real research, historical and what's happening currently. When Pizzagate exploded into way too many directions, it wasn't just the New York Times saying, oh, you know, maybe this isn't actually happening in this building. I talked to people in DC, couldn't get some of them to come on the air, got a couple of people to come on the air and give secondhand reports because we had talked to people who were there and asked them about this

place which nobody paid attention to. And really it was the alt media not the mainstream via people like myself and a couple others that I could name, but I'm not going to bother that said, there's no basement in the building. You're claiming to have a torture basement. This other thing is not what you claim it to be. These people are strange, and yet Pizzapgate is now making a resurgence because there's pizza being discussed in some of

the Jeffrey Epstein emails. Jeffrey Epstein itself a story I was covering as early as twenty fifteen, and it was a crazy conspiracy theory that only nuts on the internet discussed. And now it's kind of mainstream, isn't it? And there are real things coming out no matter what the weapon of mass distraction is that goes on about it, and who's being distracted from what and for which purpose? And you know, good point and bad point when they say, well,

why did you ask Merrick Garland about this? Merrick Garland didn't promise the drop stuff, and we're asking you about a release that Merrick Garland didn't even make. But you know what, you're right about, Merrick Garland. Somebody should have asked questions and they could have asked questions all the way back to the Bush administration. Oops, kind of covers both sides of the aisle, doesn't it. Nah, it's just

your imagination, and I'm sorry. I only got on it in twenty fifteen, but that's when I became aware because there were al media people just to handfil being called, you know, sick and twisted for even wanting to cover the significance of this thing and trying to tell you this is a big story. Ed Opperman was one of those people Porkins, you know, Pierce Redmond, one of those people. Oh, by the way, long before that Whitney, whatever the hell her name is. So it's frustrating. What can I do

in twenty twenty six at this point? I mean, I'm not a good performing monkey. I won't lie to you for a dollar, because if I did, I wouldn't have to ask for donations anymore. Promise you that all I would have had to do is sell out my integrity here or there. I could have had either thousands of

dollars a steady job, you know, endorsement deals, whatever. I've lost all my extra work I used to get from voiceovers because AI is now doing a lot of it, but pay no attention to any of that that's not being done for any particular reason right which, by the way, I'm gonna bring a piece of AI onto this show. I got something shared with me, and maybe by next

week I'll be ready to reveal a weird thing I have. Oh, by the way, they're making podcasts fully with just AI programming now, like, no people involved, no hosts, no nothing. So am I wasting my time? I don't know, But I'm going to try and do something different because I know I enjoy broadcasting first of all, and I wanted to do something serious that had, you know, positive effects.

But if I could do a little comedy, if I could do a little politics, just a little not constant, you know, if I could do a little comedy, a little politics, a little observation, a little independent analysis, which you know isn't just automatically. Got even a friend of mine over here screaming at me that I'm an mf or right away, when I'm trying to say, dude, why is it everybody's not talking about this aspect of it, he went so defensive the first thing out of it,

called me names. I don't blame him, though, because that's the way we're supposed to react now, right. I don't want to do this kind of crap anymore. I want to do something different. I don't want to cover the same ground everybody else is covering if I can avoid it. And I certainly don't want to sit here and compare parrot notes. Here's my right wing notes, here's my left wing notes, here's Chuck's weird ass notes. That's not getting

us anywhere either. So something gotta give. And BP's going to be a partner on this, by the way, even though yeah, I think some of his points of viewers do, he thinks some of mine are absolutely insane. There's got to be a way to make that work without fighting with each other and do something with that. And I've got ideas. I got a huge list of ideas, actually,

and I'm looking for more. And I'm hoping to create a new coalition because you know, nobody wants to be under my network, because every time I start getting people together doing that, somebody turns on me and screws me over with that, you know, because they're a drunken, bipolar mess or something, or they're a religious fanatic that you know, freaks out because I say, look, I don't want to do religious broadcasts on my network. Oh my god, you're

against freedom of speech. No, I don't want my network to be used as religious programming, especially if it's recruitment that I think is hostile to other people on the planet. I think that's negativity that I don't want to participate in. Is my point. You can go do that anywhere you want. I don't want to stop you. I don't want to participate in it. And next thing you know, I'm the antichrist. I think Trump's a con artist. It doesn't mean I

love Biden. But next thing you know is I'm a Biden loving communist who wants to I don't know, lick kamalass feet something weird. It always goes to something weird. Anyway, I want to get away from politics, I really do. And tonight let's talk about whatever you want for I guarantee we got at least a full hour, even after my long, long over. And by the way, this is another thing that annoys me. I end up having to have long explanations about stuff. B Pete slow rolls his

explanations because that's the way he talks. I end up over explaining myself and wasting your time and mind because a stupid crap. I have to retrain myself, and I got to retrain what's left to you guys, and hopefully get some new listeners because the support system's not working. And I'm basically feeling kind of unwanded out here in the media stream. And maybe I am. Maybe it's because I stuck to audio too long, so we're going to go to video. Maybe it's because I stuck, you know,

and kept arguing politics and current events too long. Things got to change. Maybe I'll keep some of it. And oh, then there's also the JFK community basically rejecting and erasing me.

I don't care about that necessarily, because screw it. You know what, they're doing me a favor at this point by kicking me the hell out of any circle that I was part of and turning their backs on me, all with the exception of, you know, people like Larry Hancock, most strangely is one of the most respectable and oddly has not passed judgment on me, shunned me, removed me from anything. He's still my friend, and he felt bad that I didn't feel good last night, and I think

that's legit. By the way, Larry's a real decent human being, no matter what you think of his points of view or his research, which is mostly impeccable, his writing style, which is absolent educational. I don't just say that because he's my friend. I say it because it's freaking true. But you know, the most rational and sober guy in JFK research Land is still my friend. And if that's all I get out of it, I'm good. Mike Swanson.

I'm happy he's still supporting things. But he doesn't even want to talk to people on the internet, he says anymore at all. So you know, he's going to write some books and do whatever, and we'll see what comes of that in the future. But anyway, in the meantime, I need to recruit new people to work with to create a coalition. BPTE and I have so far agreed that we're going to do some new work. Not going to get in all the details of it yet because

I don't want to share them. I don't want to spoil them, and they may even be subject to change, but we're gonna work together, even though there is a built in hostility here in our points of view. Matter of fact, it's not in spite of that. It's because of that that I think that we can wind up doing something very good. Because I don't want a yes man,

and I don't want to be a yes man. I'd like to come to consensus, move things forward, and have progress, even whether it is that I figure out a way to make you laugh, think, or do something other then get caught in these repetitious, continuous cycles of idiocy that are in other media. I mean, either direct idiocy or you know, let's repeat our political points over and over again, whether they make sense or not, and you're supposed to repeat them now and you do. No matter what kind

of idiocy, I don't want any part of it. I want to move forward so him and I can challenge each other, because even like I said, we started off last week with him basically calling me an mffort, he's still my friend at the end. So there you go.

That's the formula. As far as I'm concerned. I'd rather avoid the hostility, but at least it doesn't change my life and make him try to sabotage everything I'm doing because he got mad at me for whatever reason, not at all matter of fact, we had a discussion about what we're gonna do together in the future, not long after. You're an m effort. You see what I'm getting at here. Anyway, enough out of my mouth, I've already wasted. Let's see, Oh god, fourteen minutes with this three one nine, five

two seven five zero one six. I don't want to talk tonight. I want to look at whatever's on and I haven't even looked at the call in. Not no calls yet, which is another thing. We don't get enough callers. We don't get diverse callers. We're gonna have to change that. And I don't care if we fish up idiots and prank callers. We need diversity and something that moves the

hell along, so it's not boring to listen to. So callers three one nine, five, two seven five zero one six, you want to call in with something different, please do. I'll give you. I'll give you extra latitude any which way you want. I always give everybody extra latitude, So that's nothing special. I got to come up with a special reward for people who come on and do something original and don't just repeat crap when they call in. I gotta do that. But for now. I mean, you're

gonna do what you're gonna do. So three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six. I think I explained myself pretty well, be Pete, And I know you're over there probably waiting and falling asleep on me because I'm what I'm doing right now is boring to have to explain and explain and explain. I gotta stop doing that. But anyway, what's on your mind? How do you feel this week? Anything you want to start off with on this particular Friday, Bpte.

to the medal round Sunday morning. This is the best thing Sunday morning at eight o'clock, gold medal round for hockey. Men are going after it, women have already won it. And I have a special shout out for them. Now, the women's team went all the way through this one gold. In all of the games that they played the point ratio and I have to call out a goalie squad

for the women's team because they are amazing. In all of the games that they played, matches, whatever you want to call them, we outscored opponents thirty three to two. Those goalies only allowed two goals the entire Olympics, and they should be called out for it. They've done a great job. So as a recap, Men's gold is Sunday morning at eight ten on NBC. Other than that, I can never stay mad at you, you crazy m effort.

certain things. It's not that it's not the argument that's great, it's the fact that we keep trying and that dynamic is sorely missing because if you look at other people with their co hosts and hosts and everything else, which, by the way, I really want to make this more like a partnership with you and me and try some stuff, you know what I mean. Like we're going to try a few things. And I've been developing more of the format. By the way, I'm gonna need a little little assistance

with it. I want you to contribute to it. But I've been developing different formats, different show ideas. I'd like to see us link up. I've been talking to the new Prisoner's Kid over there, number six, and you know, we might become partially hooked up to that network. And I want to do that. I want the old days of interactive interconnectivity, you know, where we have our partnerships and we spread them around with each other, and that

was more interesting. That allowed for a greater share of resources, That allowed for you know a lot of us to do things rationally one way or another and still remain independent, you know what I mean. Nobody sponsoring us, that tries to tell us what to and what not to say and things like that, you know, and let the listeners support the thing that they enjoy. Now today it seems

like you have to do a video podcast. There is no choice, even if it's just you're staring at some jerk with a bad haircut who's got a nice background, and look, I have my nice background, so I must be interesting. And I've been exploring people that basically have nothing to say, and I do mean nothing to say, but they have a whole infrastructure and they're making a

better living than a lot of serious people. And then there's other people out there that are complaining that they're only making you know, just enough to pay their bills in like New York City. So you know, people that are making ten grand a month, they're going, I'm just eching by doing a podcast once twice a week and then a little little bonus extra where they have a get together on Patreon and they're bitching that only ten

grand is coming in. I'm like, you know, if I got that in a year, what they're bitching about in a month, you wouldn't hear complaints out of me. If I had been able to keep some of the other jobs, that would have just restrained me to not being able to speak my mind. I'd have sixty grand a year, I'd have seventy grand a year. I'd have different jobs that added up to probably you know, I'd be making a good living. But I'm not out for the money. Yeah good.

not like it's just contrarian all the time. Some stuff I like regardless, you know, and it's just I like it just because I like it. But other things I break down and I go, this is at least of interest because it's not just the same as everything else, you know what I mean. Anyway, Stuttering John used to be on the Howard Stern Show. He was a Tonight

Show announcer. Blah blah blah. Well, nowadays he's just like a drunken idiot who gets on YouTube like once or twice a day and pretty much bitches and moans about stuff, gets drunk, drools on himself, and you know, people pay him a couple hundred bucks a day, okay to do

that pretty much, that's the bottom line. He thinks he's still a genius, he thinks he's a writer, he thinks, but he really was just a stunt idiot for Howard Stern because they used to write his line, send him out to ask outrageous questions, and then Jay Leno brought him on the Tonight Show thinking he was stealing that guy from Howard Stern, and Jay Leno found out John doesn't know how to write anything. He's just a stunt idiot,

so we got to feed him stuf to do. They tried to feed him stuff to do on the Tonight Show, and he went from being the announcer to the weird guy floating in the crowd, to the guy they stuck in the writer's room to see if he could write, to the guy that they just kept paying because nobody wanted to fire him because it would have been embarrassing that they let a guy go that they took in,

you know, and stole off of another show. Meanwhile, he only got at his top pay at Howard Stern, like maybe thirty grand a year, which is ridiculous for any job in New York City. I mean ridiculously low. He worked for free for like five years over there and just basically made his way by, you know, being a little con artist and dealer deal maker off of the show.

looks terrible, lives in Florida, His family left him. It's a whole mess anyway. Why could am I talking about stuttering? John? Well, he wrote that book and it didn't do well. I tried to be nice to him, and he was, you know, very much a prima donna. And I had to go through a whole thing to get him to come on and promise me that he would stay on the interview for at least twenty minutes on a cell phone. It

was a whole nightmare to get him on. But I was happy to do it because he's a guy of interest, because he was part of a media sphere that I thought was interesting, and he was a stutterer who had to overcome that in a way and put up with basically being hired for that reason only that he stuttered and had to make a career out of it, and did for a little while. But he kept failing upwards, is all he did. Anyway, Why do I keep bringing this up? Because there is a whole universe of podcasts

that has been built essentially around stuttering John. Now he thinks it's because he's such a talented star, because he's a weirdly like slow minded I don't want to use the word retard, but anyway, he's like that. But he thinks he's a genius. It's like the Dunning Kirk effect in personified. Okay, like brutally personified. You know, the guy who is who thinks he's a genius is just is absolutely dumb enough to not understand how dumb he actually is.

John is that personified. Anyway, This whole universe of podcasts has now been built around him, and he thinks it's because he's a star and he's the center of the universe. Well he is, but not because he's interesting or talented. It's because they're all there to show what a disaster the guy is. So he's not you know, the train that comes a role and has you know, it's a super train. Everybody wants to see it. He's the train

wreck and he doesn't know it anyway. And when I say a universe of podcasts, there's at least fifteen guys that are full time employed, okay, doing these YouTube mostly, but they also have Rumble channels and they need them because there's a whole thing where he's like striking them, trying to take down their videos. He's taking them to

court because of his stupid understanding of the law. There's a whole thing that's been going on for a long time and these people, fifteen of them are full time employed with podcasts that do almost nothing but goof on him and a couple of other weird people that have podcasts. Okay, like there's an energy drink guy that does this thing. It is so bizarre. He can't possibly create a whole

universe around him. But John is such a loud, continuously contributing disaster that yeah, fifteen people have enough material to make multiple shows and they're making more money. Whether you take them individually or collectively, they're making more money and more progress and media than John is okay, like by a long shot, and he's battling with them, and he's giving them you know, weird lame nicknames and all kinds

of crap. Meanwhile, he's this ultra sensitive liberal snowflake John stuttering. John is that guy now, and this whole universe of guys and I'm watching it and they just live off of like thousands of dollars they get from super tips, super chats, Patrions. They got one hundred things rolling. I couldn't make a Patreon account roll for me, not for my personal stuff, and I was, you know, giving my

heart and soul into my material. Well, these guys basically just sit there wait for him to drop crap and get involved in things that he talks about in his personal life. Because he makes some public his weird, disturbing and creepy behavior, they focus on that. And like I said, fifteen guys are full time employed and some of them were kind of lame stand up comics who sort of point out how lame John is, which is hilarious. And I'm watching this universe now, v Pete. How long do

you think something like this has gone on successfully. Where I'm talking, these guys are fully supporting adult fifteen adults. I don't mean somebody living in mommy's basement. I mean fifteen fully functional adults. They have full time jobs doing this. They have, you know, some of them at multiple houses. Some of them have nice houses, some of them have lots of responsibilities, whatever it varies. But fifteen guys full time employed. When I have been able to full time

employee anybody through my work, not even myself. Fifteen guy, how long do you think this has been going on in the world, be pete, just at a guess.

They call it the dabble verse, of course, the dabble verse. Okay, And it is amazing to me that this exists and thrives, now, is it? Oh, that's probably a special circumstance, Chuck, it is not so b pte. Do you have any questions about this? Because do you see why I see this, why I believe this is so amazing. And then after I get to your answer on that, we got two callers now, so I want to get to Danny first, and then the next caller who we also recognize, and

you know, whatever they want to bring up. It is random wildcard here. We may have formatted call in shows coming up soon where we're going to need formatted calls only, but the Friday night show as it stands will probably

remain the open platform. Bring up whatever you want. But yeah, Danny's waiting, and also I'll just be on Jimmy James is so Danny and Jimmy James are both waiting and both people that I am considering as I go through recreating the templates in the formats here, especially Jimmy, because regardless of what I think of his political point of view or anything else, he's extremely creative when it comes to ideas about radio shows and TV shows and stuff

like that that doesn't currently exist. He's actually a creative thinker like that, way more than I expected, and way more than other people who I've asked about it expect at all. Like I'll tell him I've gotten some great, original, unique ideas from a listener. They don't guess Jimmy James first, but he is the guy who has done the best with it. When I ask him a question, he'll give me an original name, an original idea, cool stuff to do.

Whether I can pull it off or not is another story, and whether I have access to the things that I would like to is another story. But he's got great ideas. If I had a little bit of money and I didn't have all of my connections and bridges burnt by every psychopath that I allow and try and take care of or try and help out one way or another, if that didn't keep happening to me, I might be able to pull off some of the very cool ideas Jimmy James has given me. But either way, I got

Danny in California and Jimmy James on the line. And what was the question I asked you in the first place?

got to figure out a balance there. But be Pete, Seriously, if you think about this universe of weirdness right that I'm describing here, and you're accurately figuring out that it has long term consequences can continue to thrive, A whole business and a whole set of jobs can be created out of nothing just because one drooling idiot thinks he's still more famous than he is and thinks he's more

important than he is. A whole universe of hack comics who are not really good at doing that stand up or otherwise all we're able to create jobs out of a podcast platform and youtubing it a lot, you know, just nothing just with nothing to work with. In my mind, it's like, hey, I've got legos, now I have a career. I mean, it almost seems like that kind of math to me anyway. But this observation, I've studied it gone

over it. It's not the only example, but it is the one that it is one of the ones that I find the most remarkable. There's this other jackass out there. He calls himself the Steel Toe, so he's the Toe A lot of times. I don't get the point of him. I couldn't tell you what his deal is is that he's some kind of alternative political person, but he's basically a moron with a microphone and a bad haircut. He's making a living, not as good as these guys with

the dabble verse. But anyway, what are your thoughts? And then I want to go to Danny obviously and Jimmy, and maybe we'll turn away to other things. But I wanted to enter this into the conversation because it's necessary and you're gonna hear changes coming up in April for sure. Because I know this, I have at least one partner I'm bringing with me, which is B Pete. Oh crap, Did I just lose B Pete? Oh man, Okay, let

me see. We may have lost network connection, and I'm making short that my phone callers are still there and hopefully B Pete will rejoin me. Uh but I know the phone calls are still connected, so I didn't lose everything. Danny in California, are you still there or are you an illusion?

those things that happens in society. This isn't pointing a stick at one particular side of the aisle or no. No. What I'm saying is that if you ever notice that the guy who absolutely insists that he knows everything about something, or the guy who is insistent upon he knows the truth, he won't listen to anything else. He's absolutely right is usually the guy who knows the least about the subject. It's precisely the opposite of what is being represented as

what I'm saying. And this is a long term study that kind of shows how that works and why it makes sense that the dumbest guy often thinks he's the smartest guy. And there is a connection to stuttering John in this way. He's claimed to be a member of MENSA. He's claimed to be you know, and he doesn't even hardly stutter anymore. He slobbers more on his show than he stutters, which is hilarious. I've gone in and made

comments in there. I may have made more witty comments in the chat than the hosts do on the shows, and it's not hitting at all. If you go back and roll it back, and you can see in the chats where at O'Kelly, at o'celly just pops up because i lost my YouTube a long time ago, so now I'm on the Charles o'celly YouTube id. But you know who else is going to claim that? Nobody? Okay, but

there is a whole universe of people participating. And by the way, listener participation is something that goes on here and contributes some of the materials. So between the listeners contributing the material directly, the fact that they have a constantly generating, you know, stupid pile of embarrassing media coming out of stuttering John, ninety percent of their show work is done. All they got to do is play that

stuff and let their audience participate a little. And they do four hour long podcasts that they then cut up into little pieces and fling everywhere. And there's like five six shows that have multiple people. They got producers, they got multiple hosts, they got temporary hosts, they got all kinds of people Like I wanted to be able to bring in onto my network and have all kinds of people that might have small part time jobs with me.

I really did. That was the vision in my mind is let me get producers I can pay, Let me get hosts I can pay, even if it's not a lot. You know, if I start to make millions, I obviously want them to make hundreds of thousands, you know what I'm saying. Because if I'm doing most of the work and putting it together, yeah, I do want to split it with them within reason, But as much as I may, I want to give away. I want to pay talent for being talented. But these people are paying talent for

doing next to nothing. And I don't blame them. I'm not angry. I'm in awe of the ability to do that with a straight face anyway. And they are just one example, by the bye of groups of people who are doing this for all kinds of weird reasons. You know, there are people out there and sub genres of this, and that. It's like the sports card thing that I

brought up not long ago. There is a whole industry of people that just basically display and trade and sell and open packs of baseball cards on YouTube that have full odd businesses based on this. They make a living, They have other people they hire. They also have hundreds of thousands of dollars if you take the current evaluation in collectible cards that they've earned while doing this, plus a living. Okay, and it's only they're just opening up

baseball cards on camera, I kid you not. I'm amazed at the minor amount of thought and small amount of expertise that can be generated into full on businesses, full on employment, you know. And I feel like a jerk for working my ass off for hours days just to pull together certain things, you know, going and getting and interviewing somebody behind the scenes, as opposed to just reading

some headlines from my preferred feed. I do these things and feel like a complete moron, even though technically speaking, I do actually have an IQ that's way higher than the one that John even tries to brag that he has, you know, stuttering, John, Stuttering, John tries to brag that he's got a one forty IQ. I promise you you do a legit test on the guy, any form of IQ test, you're gonna find him to be either average or less than average intelligence. But he claims, but I

also graduated in YU. Yeah, Okay, awesome, dude, No, you're a moron. You're constant moron. But again, this is the Dunning Kruger thing. The guy who insists all the time that he's smart is likely the guy who's dumb as hell. The guy in the room who claims to me, I'm a tough guy. I'm a tough guy. I'll knock your ass out. Yet ninety percent of the time that guy is a poose. You know, a we need a pooh say what, that's what he is. He's a poose, you know. The guy who's got to tell you how tough he is,

how smart he is. The jerk who stands there and goes, you know how rich I am? You know how famous I am? Is usually the guy who is not those things. They're confident that they are these things. It's like I've seen women. I know I'm good looking. You tilt your head, you go listen. All God's children are beautiful, but you just barely made the list. Okay, easy. And they're women that think they're beautiful because I know, because a lot

of guys are attracted to me. No, they want to bang you, and they want to close their eyes and think about the girl. They really wanted to bang while they're experiencing you. You're a tool from masturbation. Shut up, it's not you. You're not special. You are special in that everyone is special, and you might be special in the ed sort of way, but you are not special in the looks category. But somehow you've convinced yourself of it. And the ugly girl that does that is absolutely astonishing

to me. The denial of reality. You know, I'm visually impaired so bad, I'm working with limited information, but even in my limited information sphere, you are way off on your evaluation of your beauty. And they're women that do it in the other direction where they think they're god awful ugly and you're looking at them going oh not.

In my books, the thing is, people are terrible at evaluating themselves, and for one reason or another, are are more than happy to tell you how smart they are, how smart they are, how smart they are, when in reality they're stupid. They tell you about how they're successful, because in reality they're actually failures. The people that want to brag the people I'm a tough guy. I'm a tough guy. That is the guy I am not worried

about in the room. You know, if I'm going into a room wondering who's going to be hostile and who might potentially kill me or who might potentially harm me? Going into a room and I see one guy posturing and he's got his chest puffed out, Yeah, check him off the list for who I'm worried about. You know, the guy who's loudly declaring you know what, I'm the kind of guy you shouldn't messed with because all hurt you.

Now they're either stupid for saying it in ten percent of the cases or ninety percent of the time, they're not dangerous, they're just loud. And this rule holds all the way around ninety percent of these people that tell you something, they're not that thing true. So that's the

Dunning Kruger effect more in a nutshell than anything. But there's more to it, and I want people to study it because I think if we start to understand that we're doing a lot of this and misleading ourselves more often than anything, you know, we might actually accomplish something. I'm not even asking anybody to agree with me. I'm asking why don't you take a look and think about it?

That makes me awfully evil? And because I'm not so convinced of everything, and I'm not one hundred percent like I'm ready to fight because i know I'm right, absolutely certainly, without any question. That's not me, ever, because I don't have the sort of confidence that tells me that I'm right about everything. And it seems as though the dumbest

people have the confidence to believe they are correct about everything. Now, if I'm hurting anybody's feelings, it's listening to this, you know, I'm gonna say two things simultaneously, simultaneously, sorry about that, but also simultaneously, I don't give a shit, how about that? Because hurting your feelings is not what's important. Your opinions, my opinions. People's opinions are an additive, not an entree. Okay, They're a side dish at best, and usually they're in

a shaker somewhere as optional. Opinions are not that important to driving what actually feeds you the world the information or increases or nourishes intellect in any way, shape or form. But in recent years we have been taught with absolute certainty that your opinions matter way too much, and belittling other's opinions is extremely critical and meanwhile everybody ignores the facts, the realities, the results, and a lot that could be drawn off of certain things so you could properly evaluate

what's happening in the world around you. Ultimately, that is the grandest and least discussed conspiracy in the world. Anyway, I'm sorry, Danny, I did it again, and I want to try and find out where the hell and what the hell happened to be me. But I'm gonna let you talk, and I'm gonna shut off my mic just so I can try and find him a little bit. But I want you to fill the air for a minute and talk about anything you want, Danny, and then after that, let's see. After that we have at least

two other callers. They get to yea, So please go ahead.

of his old hits. Didn't go show up to just kind of play his old hits, which I wanted to hear. But honestly, throughout the whole show, I was not disappointment.

You know. It's sort of like the British invasion. Everybody talks about the Beatles and many people might talk about the Kinks, but they miss a whole bunch of other things. When it comes to black music, they forget it. Just the list goes on and on that some of the core real people that are of the most interests are sort of ignored in favor of what was, you know, more viral in its day. Now, I'm gonna explain something real quick, be Pete. This is one of the technological

problems that comes up. I tried to talk to be Pete's back and I'm trying to reconnect with b Pete and this Microsoft team's piece of garbage, okay, takes up so much of my computer resources that even though I'm not trying to talk or do anything else but maintain my broadcast while I message BPTE on teams, it was totally electronically torturing what Danny was saying and weakening my ability to broadcast and communicate because my now you know,

my computer, which needs to be upgraded to Windows eleven, cannot handle the stupid teams which is part of Microsoft. It absolutely gets tortured. So just to go back to teams, open it up again and send a message to b Pete dominate so much resources that it almost like doubles the problem for me broadcasting, keeping the phones connected, having a web browser open, just to turn on teams and tell BP try the team, you know, try the Jitsy link again.

It drained so much of the available resources in my computer through the Internet everything that I might as well just stop the show and give you a phone call. It would probably take less energy and it wouldn't sound as bad on the broadcast. That that is the world we live in at this point. So we got to figure out a way to completely cut teams out of the equation, you know, or use it like I used to use Skype, so that I don't have to worry about opening up five other things and hope that the

resources bounce out. Quite frankly, the team's quality as far as recording goes, or how I have to pay to be able to record video and all kinds of other nonsense.

We are better off going with a high quality, dedicated system that actually takes care of podcast communications, like a like a riverside or a freaking stream yard, and just buy an account and share it with somebody else so that it doesn't have to cost us, you know, four hundred dollars a year or whatever to have a decent package, you know what I mean, Like, get to other people to share stream yard with us, and it won't be so bad because even at forty dollars a month, if

you split it three ways, it ain't so bad. Because we tax fifteen bucks a month. I'm willing to pay just to have reliable communication and recording capabilities, you know, just raw recording capabilities, not even the linestobe. You're good, sorry, but that's what gets me.

of other products from Microsoft. So now I've got to buy, you know, their PDF program, I've got to buy their video codex stuff I gotta buy. Like in other words, you buy a bunch of Microsoft products, make yourself more dependent on Microsoft, and we'll look you up. Maybe we'll even give you teams for free. Oh and by the way, it'll actually have the features working that you want to work. You know, it's like we give away the free sample so that the free sample is just good enough to

be sort of useful. You know, it's like giving away the bad coke to sell the good coke. You know is what we're doing with the drugs now, but few people are being sucked into it, and Microsoft is not getting the share of the market. They and you know, they didn't like having the Skype thing because it allowed too much independence. Uh so they want to clamp down on everything so that you know, if you have just the right teams, you can use video. If you don't

have it, it doesn't work. If you have just the right teams, you have an AI transcript generator automatically, but if you're not paying us, it doesn't work, you know. So on and so forth. This is the way it is. So I'm saying we're gonna have to pay somebody to be able to, you know, do what Skype used to do for free. Let's be choosy about it and buy the best one that actually freaking works, so we get something for our money, and if we split it between

a couple of guys, it becomes reasonable. You know, somebody wants to podcast once a week, which is the majority of people anymore, because they're either on once a week or they drone on for hours every day. This is their two modes of operation. If there's a couple of other serious once a week guys who want to, like you know, have either Riverside or stream Yard and they want access to it. Let's share an account and be adults about it and do that, and that'll help me

a lot. But if not, maybe you and I will figure out a way to just purchase an account and I don't care if it's your account, do what you want with it, extra when you know, when we're not doing what we got to do upfront. But I think sharing a resource like that is the only way that some of us broke people who haven't cracked the make a living off of nothing code are going to be

able to survive this. As you know, allegedly podcasters because and now I'm going to start saying alleged podcasters because getting together with your friends on video chat basically and bsing now counts as a podcast. No preparation, no you know, targeted information, no attempt to even keep you know, a topic relevant or study something of importance or of interest to a mass of people. Just you know, three, four or five guys get on a stream and just bs

and that now counts as a podcast. I okay, that used to be that way in the Skype days too, and people laughed at it. It's like, this isn't a podcast, this is just a recorded Skype conversation, you know, on

a party line. There's an old term there. They used to have things called party lines, which either you had to establish one at a time, people up to the phone one at a time, and then you'd accomplish, you know, putting six guys and six locations on one phone call, and then you either semi organized it or it had chaos, and there was usually one lead guy in the conversation or one lead girl, depending on the circumstances, and everybody else would mostly listen, but they would chime in every

now and then. And that was on telephones. That used to be a thing, and some people recorded it and said, look, I have a podcast. Just because you have audio noise doesn't mean you made a podcast. There is a difference. But anyway, I'm trying to come up with a way to harness the ridiculously easy things that people are doing and accomplish something of value at the same time. I don't know it's necessarily possible, but you know, not all

of us are going to be Joe Rogan. But I just think that there's plenty of room there, and I don't make a living at this. I did sort of for a couple of years, but realistically, because it was never my top priority, I failed to recognize certain things at the right time to get it across. But as I do the analysis now and I do media analysis, Yeah, this is why the direction change is necessary. You know, forget your specifics or your anger. You're willing to celebrate

my positions or my opinions because that doesn't matter. But you know, think about this, there's no reason in the world I should not be making a living and high hiring other guys to make a living with me, because that's the ultimate goal I would have loved to five years ago, said to be Pete, you know what, we've been doing this for a couple of years, and you're a consistent part of this. I'd like to cut you in and here's your pay, a weekly, monthly, whatever it is.

And some of these guys who are doing literally nothing of value, nothing of consequence, are able to do that thing that I always dreamed of doing. That was the thing that would have made me most happy, is if I had hired three four guys who worked along with me and produced things of value and even if I was paying them, you know, the same price that they would get for going down to you know, the local

grocery store and working as a cashier. Even if I was just able to pay him that much, that is exponentially an improvement and better than what I was able to pay him and what anybody was going to anybody else was going to pay. I would love to be able to do that, you know, even though it wouldn't have been something where BP could say, oh, I can

retire now because I can do radio stuff. If I was able to give him two hundred bucks a week, or one hundred dollars every week, or you know, six hundred dollars a month or anything like that, I would have been so happy and then looking forward to finding other people to hire. And the more that comes in,

the better the rate I can give them. You know, I would have been thrilled with that, you know, just like I know it wasn't a fortune, but getting twelve hundred a week to do my radio show was something I really wanted, and I was really sad I lost monetarily, but I could not bend the knee and you know and do the whole listen. Even though I'm supposed to be alternative and rebellious. I absolutely fall in line with the pro Putin agenda. And also Trump is a good guy.

And we can attack Democrats on this network, but don't you dare attack anybody on the right wing. You have to say that Ukrainians are all Nazis, doesn't matter what the reality is. They deserve to die. And then you can have your twelve hundred dollars a week. You know, and by the way, we're going to tell you exactly how to do your shows. We're going to feed you guests anyway, because even though we wanted you for your creativity,

we don't actually want you for your creativity. So I'm a voiceover guy and I'll voice over anything so long as I don't have to attach my name to it, and I have. I've done different voices, and I do have different voices that people don't even recognize where I've signed away all broadcasting rights to what I've read for people, and people don't even know they're listening to my voice. AI is ruining that Bye the bye, because you don't

need a voiceover guy anymore. You can just take a written script and you know, take note, there's a lot of very similar voices on brand new YouTube videos that are getting pumped out daily, where it's the same announcer's voice, but they can't seem to figure out the nuances in certain pronunciations. It's clearly a machine and you can find

it if you carefully listen. And they've even made it so these voices breathe have the imperfections of a normal person, you know, slight inconsistencies which come along with repetition, you know, which you're supposed to eliminate professionally as a speaker. All that stuff goes on, and it just is something you can automatically put out instead of taking hours to have somebody sit and read it and get it correct and then have to edit it. You have it edited, corrected

and everything in real time. In five minutes. You can produce an hour's worth of material in five minutes, faster than you can ever realistically even do a read on a script. So you know, I don't blame them, but they're also advertising it now, and in fact, I've been offered ready for this one, and I'm thinking about bringing it on the show, but I gotta be very careful about it, because somebody's showing me some proprietary technology that

is going to be available and isn't available yet. I don't want to give you too many details, but let me put it to you this way, I could create hosts that are just AI driven. You will not really know the difference, I'm told. And the upgrades that are upcoming are in some people's hands already in different versions. These guys think they have a better product and they're gonna drop it out there, and it's going to be

supposedly the next you know, flash in the pan. But make a billion overnight app for people to produce podcasts, books like. You'll be able to produce multimedia stuff, even the videos, you know, those AI slop videos. Imagine if you have an AI program who's just generating those for you, you know,

twenty four to seven. If you need like so much content that you could give away a bunch of crap to other people, and you could probably sell your videos for a dollar apiece and that'll pay all your bills. I mean, it's amazing to me. The automated you know, the automated force multipliers I'm seeing, and I might get to play with something that actually generates based on certain things you feed into it a freestanding AI host, you know, so or co host. So I can you know, just

I don't have to call BPTE anymore. I can take Bpte's voice even or a similar voice, feed it in there and give you know, like, let's just say the I take five six random shows from from the Friday night call in. I identify b Pete's voice right on the recording, and I tell it to get everything from that. It'll pick up his personality, traits, stuff he says, phrases, all

that stuff, and it'll turn into virtual be Pete. It'll give them a different name, and I'll just be able to turn them on and talk to them, you know, sort of like those weird women sex spots they have out there, which, by the way, are evolved beyond belief. I was also studying some of that recently. These weird like female companion bots of all sorts, not just ones

that you bang. You know, this one's good for having around and all she does is actually talk to you and make sure that she makes you feel good every day. And hey, you don't even have to feed her. You know. This one looks prettier and has you know, warm skin, to the touch, and you can upgrade, upgrade, upgrade until you have you know, I want to marry my bot going on for real and they've done that with.

Except maybe she can set odds for you and help you with any any particular sporting activity that happens to be downloadable from the internet and be able to discuss sports with you.

upgrades for name a category of stuff it does. Whether it's you know, new recipes while she's cooking, or it's you know, new particular kink in your bedroom, or it's you know, keeping up with the latest sports and everything. You know, those are your options, so you don't want them, don't pay for them. It's like, hey, you don't want Hulu, you can always subscribe to Netflix, and you will pick one of those services eventually to subscribe to, especially if

it makes your bot customizable just for you. I think that's actually a perpetual business model.

do it. But what I'm saying is, I think somebody's a billionaire overnight and a trillionaire within months if they have perfected you know, companion bots. Really you want to check out. They have amazing technologies and amazing adjustments in this thing that it's like, Gee, would you give up you know, your your fortune or a whole lot of other things just to have this in perpetual perfection for the rest of your life and no risk of divorce? And you know what, if you're really sick of her,

just freaking turn her off. And that's that murder your partner legally. I mean, that's priceless right there. Anyway, my crazy thoughts. Fine, Danny, I'm sorry I interrupted and took up your time. We still got Jimmy Jaymes on the line last night. Look, let me make sure he's still there. Yes he is. And that other caller was ub Pete after Jimmy James. So oh, no, Danny's gone. Okay, Danny probably got tired of that long rant, see because I rambled too long. But if we had a good flow

and a good back and forth. I'm gonna but if we had a good flow and a good back and forth. Yeah, but you want the cure, you just want to tell me to shut the fuck up? Which one do you want?

with me. Sometimes I just want to make that point anyway, Now shut up, go hey or.

media product from the seventies and eighties. Just go ahead and use the right name so that people listening are not completely confused by what it is you're gonna mention here, because overall this presentation is for the third party who's listening to the show, separate from us, So please don't change the names. Just get to the explanation.

And it's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's crazy episode. And there's this whole thing where the clown comes back, you know, the guy into my mask comes back and everything. And because of the episodic nature of Little House on the Prairie, they are when they're played for broadcast or stream directly, they're usually they're usually played out of water for various reasons. But in this case, that episode does get played off and on, and it's pretty wild. Yeah. Now I see

a picture and clown or mime could count there, I think. Anyway, here's from an article, A Little House on the Prairie was never afraid to bring the trauma, whether telling stories about alcoholism, anti semitism, racist, blah blah blah. Okay, never was that more apparent with the with Sylvia in Quotes,

which premiered February ninth, nineteen eighty one. The two part episode, written and directed by a Little House on the Prairies Michael Landon, starred Olivia Barrash as a beautiful and shy young girl who, there's no way to say this lightly is a rape by a man in a very very creepy clown mask. Her resulting pregnancy makes Sylvia pariat everyone in Walnut Grove, except for kind hearted Albert Engels, who vows to marry her and raise the baby as his own.

So he wants to swoop in and be the savior Albert Ingles, one of the Ingles family, of course, in the case where this girl has been raped and impregnated by a clown, and it's an evil two part episode

of Little House on the Prairie. It is, to my understanding of streaming and broadcast not often replayed in most commonplaces, which stick to mostly earlier and later episodes, not the middle episodes of the show, and those rebroadcasts and restreams do not often volunteer it as part of an auto playlist or as part of a season run, or any of that stuff that doesn't happen, so there's the full description of the episode, which I just gave b Pete, so you know, because I, I know, we just rejoined

our communication. I've given a full description of the episode. The year was eighty one. It's definitely of interest, weird. It's not part of the standard auto streaming or auto playlists. It is available out there for you know, you can watch it on demand wherever they have Little House on

the Prairie as an option. But sometimes again the eighty one season is not even on there because some of these like free streamers and things don't even show you know, full series when they give you options to watch though it's part of their deal, you know, to try and draw you into. Well, if you want the full series, go buy something and you'll be able to get you know, full series access to not just Little House on the Prairie,

but one hundred things. So that's the hook with you know, free or pay as far as like Peacock and a few other things go. But it is a weird episode that does exist. It's pretty bizarre, and indeed these things always existed, these weird political statements about traumatic, horrible things that sometimes were you know, played out terribly and in other cases were played out too realistically, and in other cases,

you know, just went by without anybody noticing. Like I brought up, you know, the episodes of Good Times on this show where you know, JJ maybe has VD, or JJ's gonna marry a girl who's shooting up dope and as a heroin addict and she overdoses. You know, stuff like that, Or you know, somebody deals with the fact that they discover a family member who's been coming around and giving them presents is actually a dope dealer who is now indebted to somebody for gambling and they might

get their head broken and killed because they owe money. Meanwhile, they were buying presents for the family and now they're willing to rob the family. Stuff like that goes on, and you know, Good Times is a comedy, or like when Archie Bunker, you know, faces down the Klan and goes, hey, I know I'm a racist. For you people are too much.

Often writers producers decide to make statements, and they took you know, the wholesome show of the seventies eighties and decided to make ah, you know, sexual assault statement because you don't have to say essay on here with this. Sylvia episode. It is creepy, disturbing and everything. Are you bringing this up because you like recently discovered that that was part of Little House on the Prairie Jimmy.

real episode. And you can find rape episodes in all kinds of seventies and eighties TV shows, whether you expect them or not to have a rape thing going on. But rape, in the way women who been rape get treated, it has been a subject for you know, probably since the nineteen sixties on television being discussed and put on display one way or another, you know, just like various types of mental illness have gone in and out of vogue as far as you know, we're going to make

a statement piece, and it doesn't matter if it's Quantum Leap. No, seriously, it doesn't matter if it's Quantum Leap or the Goofy Sketch Show or you know some formulaic bs, you know sitcom. Sometimes these producers, actors or whoever's involved just go, we need to make a statement, and they just do it. And this is Michael Landon directing that episode about let me that's what have a commentary about Reap.

was ruining the damn show. Which is a weird situation because look, let's just you know, take this objectively for a second. A very rough movie is made into a TV show. Now why do I say rough? It's a war zone in Korea. That's the setting. Okay, not only that, but an intense part of that setting where it's like, here's the doctors who got to try and be battlefield medics and you know, keep people alive under really rough circumstances, who were constantly covered in blood, surrounded by death and

in a war zone. Okay, you know, and meanwhile they're gonna crack jokes while they're constantly facing at any moment they might be you know, shelled to death by Koreans or guess what their own people. Uh, And and it's you know, that's kind of a rough presence, uh, sort of premise to begin with, and the iconic theme song is often forgotten to have its original lyrics, which often repeats phrases like suicide is painless and you know the

dentist is called painless. I know, but that's true. This is all true.

going to use them on the TV show. There's a lot of weird chickanery in the music business and who they hire. And indeed, it is correct that they had somebody else write the mash theme song because the movie company was willing to put money into paying actual artists for their rights. But if you can have somebody who's you know, working for the film take the bare minimum payment, you save a lot of cash. So that was a

move made there. Sometimes people are trying to exploit their roles in these things, and that might be why the lyrics are really not part of the TV show to begin with. Plus also a little tough to make a comedy show. After you play a song that's like Sue Aside is painless, it brings on many changes and I can take it or leave it if I please. Not a good setup for comedy. And that's part of the real lyrics I just recited, so, you know, just saying there's a lot of weird chicanery when it comes to

theme music. But the point overall is that it's pretty much a weird contradictory premise to begin with, We're gonna go into a war zone where the most ugly and ugly things can happen. We're gonna make it into a comedy, and then we're gonna make serious statements out of the comedy. It's like the an example of bipolar whiplash in one piece of media product that was super popular and was part of the zeitgeist in America for quite a while. So I find that fascinating. Jimmy, what do you think?

all that. But at one point the TV company was just making it into a giant commercial for Winston Salem cigarettes, and their whole thing was to try and do product placement in the prehistoric stuff, like, you know, make some of those you know, rock this and well, you know, I want to deal with extra rock huts and you know, and this and this kind of thing, you know, introducing these different modern aspects. It was supposed to be introduced

a whole bunch. It was supposed to be a giant commercial basically, where it's like, you know, Wilma's using something that's vaguely named, like a real product to wash the clothes, and it's a laundry soap that actually sponsor's the show. And every once in a while, uh Fred and Barney would sneak away behind the house and light up a cigarette and sit and talk about the smooth flavor of Winston or the wonderful cooling, you know, menthol of sailings, not kidding. This was part of the show.

the story is you heard it? Because I earned a counter narrative that said, they think that newspapers at the time were just exaggerating what was what happened the reaction as a way to kind of sling mud at radio because it was the new medium in town. They're like, look at this crazy radio. Look what's made these New Jersey people? Do they want nuts? Thinking aliens were attacking? Okay, so there the new claim is that the reaction was exaggerating.

broadcasts to me. It's like, you know, looking back at why it is you want to do broadcasts because of the legend and the strength of what occurred, because of War of the Worlds and surrounding War of the Worlds as a broadcast, So let me straighten out some of the things that you said there that are just inaccurate and have been twisted over the years, so it is difficult to sort out what actually occurred here. First of all, yeah,

a lot of it was set in New Jersey. The radio play, if you will, was set in New Jersey, like in Brown's Mills, and they talk about out the professor is from Princeton, and they're reporting live from Princeton. Then they report from a farm in Ocean County, and then they go to another county nearby. I forget which one, and Brown's Mills is one of those places that comes up. A bunch of other landmarks are mentioned in New Jersey towns that are a little known, et cetera, et cetera,

especially during the initial news broadcasts. And you're on Wilmer's farm allegedly. So let's begin from the beginning. Orson Welles decided to put on this radio play, and it did, in fact tell people at the very beginning this is just a radio play. However, people turned on the radio and heard this thing. They didn't catch the beginning, so they didn't know the context, and there were a lot

of people that did overreact to the radio broadcast. Now, it didn't cause mass hysteria, and you know, the whole

town's devolved into rioting or any of that. But there were people that you know, called the police, hit in their basements, you know, freaked out one way or another, tried to collect their families together for safety, and stuff like that really did happen in real time as the broadcast went out, because they didn't listen to the beginning, the end, or even the part of the story where clearly you're listening to this guy out loud record his

journal as he's writing it down. After within an hour, you know, the world has been destroyed, basically, and we are absolutely under the domination of aliens, which you know, look outside your window and you wouldn't see that. You know, half of New Jersey's on fire, and you know they're just bodies piling up locally, and the line of destruction, if you follow the story, would have gone all the way into New York, which you know, murdered a whole lot of the population with some kind of weird gas

along with the rays coming out of the weapons. You know, all this stuff didn't happen, and people started to realize it didn't happen, but some people took it seriously and didn't listen to the beginning or the end, which would have clearly shown you you're not listening to something that's

happening in real time. It's because they interspersed it with semi realistic sounding newscasts, and we're going to be right here on the scene and talk to this person who's a They talked to a fireman, a National guardsman, somebody from the Pentagon. You know, the fake president comes on, and you should know what your president sounds like. I'm thinking at a certain point during a news report, like, if you were well informed in the world, you would

have recognized it as a fake at any time. But for people that were sort of ignorant who needed to be told what they were listening to, if they would have caught the beginning or the end, one or the other or both, they would have known what the deal was. Now, in the aftermath of that, newspapers definitely went out of their way to bash the hell out of what happened and talk about the destructive nature of the broadcast. Wells had to apologize all kinds of stuff. You know, I

have to apologize for, you know, fooling people. But even during his statements he would be like, if you were actually a well informed public, none of this would have happened anyway. You know, any of the stuff you're blaming me that I inspired and triggered in everybody wouldn't have happened if people knew the world around them or what the hell was going on. He would always include that,

even though he was apologizing. Now as far as the newspaper's agendas and were they going after it because it was radio, I don't buy that. And this now veers into my opinion about the situation because it is difficult to know the psychology regardless of what people said they

did things for or not. But on mass newspapers definitely wrote a lot of exaggerated stories about this in order to first off, sell more newspapers, you know, read about the crazy stuff that happened, because one you know, radio broadcast happened and made the world crazy. You know again, it was the you know, slow up to watch the accident,

you know, stop and stare at the train wreck. It was that kind of thing, and the newspaper business would increase their volume exponentially by being able to sell a story that you know, everybody wants to see the train wreck or car accident. So I think that was the primary motive and the most obvious and easy to understand motive here. Could there been people motivated by, let's go after radio because it's going to challenge and destroy our

newspaper business. Maybe even rival radio stations could have went after that for screw CBS. We got to compete. You know. All of these things are possible, but I think the best available evidence would tell us that it was a media phenomena that was fueled by the fact that the public is ignorant, and that Wells did put on a decent adaptation of an HG. Wells novelization or the World's because that it was an adaptation and the fact that it took place in New Jersey gave it proximity and

a realistic concept. For hell, we're broadcasting from New York and it's coming at us. So you could stretch out the alien threat and march toward human destruction, beginning with New York being targeted from New Jersey, which is nearby. Because at a certain point, the machines marched through the Hudson River and knock I think, knock over the statue of liberty, and this kind of thing, and these are iconic images that even in a pre TV age, people knew about and could relate to. So I think it

caused problems. Yeah, I see that. That's why I was trying to close this up. But I think altogether that's the real story. But the truth is that a lot of the immediate reactions they claimed happened were exaggerated or blended together and things like that. And I think that was common in the newspaper business to first of all,

sell more newspapers. I think that was the primary thing, you know, And what is the purpose of that ultimately is to make your advertising worth more money, which is why TV stations that were per profit ostensibly it you know later on, but I think radio being you know, oh it's the new kid on the block, we got to destroy it. There might have been some of that in there, but I think overwhelmingly we're stuck with the simple. You know, if it bleeds, it leads, this will sell.

Let's tell the crazier story and to compete with each other more than anything. As newspapers, we need to have the craziest, latest, most extensive coverage of this bizarre, once in a lifetime event. That's what I think happened. And as I study it, and I've looked back on it and studied the recording, the events, the newspaper stuff, the media analysis, ever after statements, journals of the time and all of that, that's what I conclude. But again I told you part of it's based on my opinion when

we get into the motives as to why. But I think that's, you know, a nice way to once again regurgitate and re examine it. And sure, why not, But I think overall the simplest explanation here actually works best. So yeah, I think that's what it was all about. So does that answer the full question, Jimmy.

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