Ochelli Effect 12-08-15 Roger Stone RE-Release 110225

He's actually written several books. But he's a political insider, a guy who's fairly fascinating if you check the gop roster over the years, this guy worked for everybody from Nixon to Regan, yeah, right on into the Donald Trump land. But his most recent book, actually, which I just got yesterday, is The Clinton's War on Women, right Roger Stone, and also co authored by Robert Moral, which makes it quite

fascinating of course. Uh, you know, but he has not quite joined me just yet, So I'm going to continue to talk about this, uh and see where it goes. Hopefully he'll be on the skype rather shortly, mister Stone. You might have seen him on a CNN and all that kind of stuff recently, you know, commenting about a lot of different things that relate to the GOP campaign. There he is, mister Stone, we don't actually need the video. That's okay.

no idea what I was doing, quite honestly. But the fact is, I've found no use for either side of the you know, two party system.

the Clintons. But I got to tell you something, being someone who tries to examine things from a neutral perspective, someone who comes at these candidates, these individuals who hold these offices in what I feel is an objective manner. Really, honestly, you did a hell of a job in this book laying it out in a way that I've never seen anybody go after it when it comes to the Clintons, And I'm really, really quite impressed. I've never seen anybody

do this. I mean, not even for parties and politics purpose.

I'm talking about something far darker, rape, sexual assault, brutal, vicious and repeatedly, and I name names. I interviewed twenty four women I took the literature by a number of incredible authors. There have been over sixty biographies of Bill and Hillary Clinton, but very few have cobbled it all together.

This isn't a moral hypocritical couple, whether it's whether it's being an advocate for women and girls, whether it is being an advocate for children, when she is, in fact the person who ordered the all out terror assault, snipers, vehicles, loud music, the whole assault that killed eighteen children under the age of eight in Waco, her hand picked attorney general, her hand picked deputy, and former lover Web Hubble, the

assistant Attorney General who runs the operation. Both Senator Arlen Specter, who chaired the Senate hearings on Waco, and T. March Bell, the chief investigator for the House committee that investigated Waco, said there was evidence that co President Hillary Clinton gave the final order. Not an advocate for children, No, absolutely not.

the same as hypocrisy here. What do you you know? I don't know what you want to tell people. I don't know if this is one of the key selling points of the book, but I think one of.

And when his mother and his aunt, Lucille Bolton took him to the Governor's mansion to appeal to Hillary that they acknowledge and support their own they were turned away by state troopers, and Hillary sent a messenger the next day saying that that she could get them a lawyer who would a private investigator who could intimidate reporters who are asking too many questions. That's the message she sends. They have never acknowledged loved supported Danny Williams. Danny is

a fine young man. He has five children of his own. He's a churchgoer, He's put himself through college and he's in his last year. He has a small business. He struggles financially. Meanwhile, his father, Bill Clinton, is worth best estimates one hundred million dollars thirty five million that he made last year alone in the influence pedaling build business right.

political operatives, hangers on that serve in Hillary worlds. And the charitable work is negligible and it's infected with corruption side dealing because in all honesty, and I think you know this, the main purpose for the Clinton Foundation is as a vehicle for the facilitation of multimillion dollar bribes. And this is all carefully documented, not only in my book, but in Peter Schweitzer's fine book Clinton Cash, a lot has transpired. We know a lot of things about that.

The federal filings of the Clinton Foundation are missing information, They're fraudulent, they have to be restated. The irs would have closed any other charity down who is guilty of of these kinds of gross errors. There's a whole other scandal waiting to happen on top of what we already know.

it only after the impeachment vote. The work of Mike Izakov with Newsweek, previously with Newsday, now with NBC, where he had traced the violation of Liz Ward Grayson, a former Miss Arkansas, a Miss America who tells her roommate that she was raped by Bill Clinton and tells others she was raped by Bill Clinton until Harry Thomason, a big Hollywood agent friend of Bill's, gets her a bit part in a TV show. Now, she says the sex was rough and unpleasurable, but that the but the sex

with Bill Clinton was consensual. Her roommate Stokes, testified three times under oath that that's not what Liz Ward Grayson had told her in the beginning. So it's a very tangled, you know, tale here, But each one of these women is.

And what's interesting is that talking to twenty four women, many of whom never spoke to each other, they all described the exact same horrific scene, Bill Clinton turning beat red, sweating his temples, and the veins in his neck sticking out breathing heavily, what some women have called his rape mode.

It's it's terrifying. Just the other day, Hillary said that women who were on college campuses were involved in sexual assault deserve to be believed, and when asked, not by the media who are the ones who should be asking the question, but by a voter in New Hampshire, woman said, well, what about Winnie to Broaderick, what about Kathleen Willie, what about Paula Corbin Jones? Don't they deserve to be believed? And Hillary's response was, well, they deserve to be believed

until evidence shows otherwise. What evidence is she referring to? There is not an iota of evidence that any of the women who've made these allegations have been debunked or disproved, or that any evidence brings into question their account of their assault. Three women individually say that they had their upper lift bit almost through. How could you invent such a thing? So the idea that this is, you know, this is trailer trash being paid by the tabloids to

make up things, which was their standard defense. By the way, when this stuff for serviced in the nineties. Oh that's not just that. Jerry Folwell stuff because Folwell had financed some of the early investigations into the sexploits and drugs and greed of Bill and Hillary Clinton. And let's just say.

In fact, one of the things I tell you is that Lee Atwater, my former partner, Republican National chairman, Bush campaign manager, saw Bill Clinton as a southern white Democrat who could bring back blue collar and white Democrats in the South and West, and knew immediately he was a danger to George w at George hw and he was right, and this information was ascertained. But then Bush George H. W.

Bush Poppy number forty one. He decided that he could defeat Clinton without this, without quote unquote getting dirty, and it cost him reelection.

I said, this guy is losing in the primaries. He seemed as though he was about ready to drop off of the campaign trail. Some of these things started to come out even the early days of you know, the Russia Limbaugh Show started talking about the spectators.

and here's the problem. Bill says in that interview that he was only with his mistress, his twelve year mistress, Jennifer Flowers one time. See that had leaked just ahead of the New Hampshire primary. Clinton's on the ropes over it. He's on the verge of being knocked out of the race. He does his stunning interview. Now, unfortunately, there's a man who lives across the street, across the hall pardon me

from Flowers mad named Gary Johnson, who's an attorney. Johnson has a security camera set up, not because he's trying to catch Bill Clinton, but because his car has been repeatedly vandalized and he's trying to figure out who's vandalizing his car. But what he catches is not car criminals, but instead Bill Clinton coming and going many many times.

That's on video. One night, three Arkansas State troopers show up at his home and they beat him so badly they leave him for dead, dislocating both of his shoulders, his arms, crushing his face in his nasal passages, lacerating his kidney, his spleen, and his liver. Johnson lives. Neighbors were quoted as saying they could hear men yelling where

are the effing videos? Where are the video? This is the kind of criminal tampering and physical violence against witnesses, strong arm tactics that the Clintons were willing to resort to and scramble for power.

I mean, anybody who's ever paid attention to this stuff knows that, you know, Roger Clinton had gotten caught for cocaine and all this other stuff, right, But he portrays it as you know, listen, I took a hands off approach, go ahead and arrest my brother. And that's that, you know.

is a pending lawsuit. But we do know that Bill was paling around with a convicted sex criminal with a propensity for underage girls, who the Palm Beach Police found had violated thirty three underage girls. And that is well covered in the book. But things ultimately would take a giant campaign contribution or I pardon me, a foundation contribution

from this fellow never returned it Epstein. And then additionally, Epstein arranges for Bill Clinton to fly on Epstein's plane, the sex criminals plane, to meet the Sultan of Brunei in Brunei to pick off a two point five million dollar check for the Clinton Library. The Sultan is, of course a known pedophile who keeps an underage female and male harem.

Auschwitz other profitable enterprises. Then there's George W. Bush, who is Vice president, really engineers ran contras, signs most of the documents moving drug money, drugs and money all around illegally finance the Nick Roguin rebels in violation of the Boling Amendment, a specific law pass prohibiting such which would end up many Bush aids indicted. Bush would lay later

pardon all of them before leaving office. So we do know that Bill Clinton was the governor who worked closely with Vice President George Bush to traffic millions of dollars of cocaine through Mina, Arkansas. Barry Seal. This story is being made right now by Tom Cruise in a movie because he one of the more fascinating characters in this absolutely sordid and true story of the Bushes and the Clintons dealing in the drug business and making having the

state troopers look the other way. By the way, it's interesting that the Central Intelligence Agency had tried to traffic through Louisiana and Texas, and the governors in those states and the state police would not go along because the scale of it was so obviously illegal, and that that's why they ended up in Arkansas, where they had a more appliable Governor Bill Clinton.

in my estimation. Now this may not be your viewpoint, but it's directly relatable in my estimation to our incursion in Afghanistan, just like it was in the nineteen seventies and we were in you know, sixties and seventies, excuse me, when we were in Vietnam unfortunately, you know, in dealing in heroin, in dealing in heroin, and then when you look at the you know, why was there this big bump in the cocaine industry in the you know the listen.

and they started poking around Asia. They didn't find POW's, but what they did find it was heroin, lots of it, and the government running. When they reported back to Parole what they had learned, Perou rushed to Washington to meet Vice President George Bush, who he thought was a friend of his and fellow Texan. He was certain that Bush would be shocked. This is according to Tom Lukes, who was Paro's personal attorney. So he says to he says to them that he Bush looks at Perot and his

answer is a grim smile. From that point on, Ross Perot was the dedicated to the destruction of Bush. As I say in this book, Parot and Clinton were talking by phone at least once a day, according to Clinton's bodyguard L. D. Brown, and Clinton was talking to Ross about campaign strategy. This was a pincer movement that indeed

it did cost George Bush Senior the presidency. The siphoning of more conservative and reform votes to Paro not only costs Bush, but it was done twice by Clinton because it also costs Bob Dole, remembering that Parau voted ran in four years. Hence, yes, exactly.

you know, the the Bush dynasty runs thusly. You have you have Bush having a you know, Bush h w having a lot of influence over the Reagan administration, uh, doing a lot of you know, being almost the action officer, the executive action officer, you know, for a lot of deep covert stuff that was going on during the Reagan administration. Then at presidency of his own when things went wrong.

Because you're very right to mention, Ross Perot is going you know, as being very interested in the American POW's and Vietnam, you know, and all of that. It cost him there, But you know what, they really handed it over to what I view as a family friend of the Bush crime syndicate.

anti Vietnam war groups. So he and George H. W. Bush, who really begins not in nineteen in the seventies when he's appointed directory, but according to documents declassified by the federal government nineteen eighty five, is working for the CIA on the Bay of Pigs mission as early as nineteen sixty one, essentially raising money from right wingers. So his involvement that they have the CIA tie together and they make money together. The Bushes aren't all that sore about

losing to the Clintons. They've raked off millions for their libraries and millions for these nonprofits. The Bushes and the Clintons come together, they form a nonprofit for hurricane relief in Haiti. They raise one hundred and thirty eight million dollars, they spend ten million dollars on the ground in Haiti and housing, and they pocked the other one hundred and twenty eight It's Bush. It is indeed, the Bush Clinton crime syndicate off a teering off these so called charitable activities.

he's involved, you know. And and here's the funny thing is that Clinton basically becomes a placeholder because after that we end up with well w coming in, you know, and and I just do all this to put it in context. I do want to focus on the Clintons here, but I'm just trying to put this in context.

toppling of Kadafi in Libya. He was a US ally, he was feeding US intelligence, he had been pro Western for almost twenty years. A madman, yeah, probably, But the quality of living for women in Libya was the best of any country on the Northern Continent in terms of women could go to school, they could go to college, they could be educated, they could choose their own husbands, they could drive a car. They didn't have to wear a veil to go out in public. If they were raped.

There was a prosecution of their rapists. These rights are all gone because Qatar gave the Clintons each a million five for quote unquote speeches, and then an additional two hundred and fifty a two point five million dollars to the Clinton Foundation, which is I said earlier, is a vehicle for the facilitation of these kind of bribes. Next thing,

you know, we're going to the National credit card. We're borrowing the money to pay for the bombing of Libya because the rebels can't do it without our air support. We spend a billion dollars on bombs, of course, paying interest on that money, and we topple, you know, a guy who's an ally, and what do we put into place, shari A law and Islamo fascists at the top, Yeah.

handing out the military industrial complex goodies over there. Well, g there's other people benefiting on the back end of that as well. And I bet those same names.

to Johnson. They made the Johnson's made a fortune on the Vietnam War. This I established in my book The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, which is a New York Times bestseller, a body of work I'm very proud of. Again, like the Clinton book, very heavily sourced and footnoted.

good guy very much. You know, when it comes to partisan politics, land, Hey, this was not this was not a good time for us in the US because we had a guy who wasn't strong on this and that and the third thing. But really, when you take a look at their actions and what they actually resulted in, you have very much the same kind of behavior that we've had throughout except that I've got to be honest with you, I don't see this sort of moral depravity as deep with a lot of other regimes that had

gone through the you know, the White House. Who knows. You know, the book is as yet unwritten on Obama, But I am afraid to read that one, to be honest with you when it comes down to it, because you know, a great deal of these things are covered up even better nowadays. But what kills me about Clinton is that it seems to be one of the worst kept secrets ever, because these things all circulated all throughout.

I mean, you brought up Jennifer Flowers, and everybody remembers her, you know, Jennifer with a G and that was the big deal there because that was his mistress and all that. But it doesn't even begin to speak to the repeated and constant practices that this man was involved in when it came to women, you know. And I mean, yeah, I make the joke every now and then about oh the guy could feel you know, I feel you're paid. You know, you remember that old adage coming out of his mouth.

money and their fame and their library and their co conspirator. Grifting, greedy little daughter who at age thirty five, is worth somewhere around eighteen million, who lives in a ten point five million dollar apartment, but says in a Bubbly interview with Vogue, oh, I don't care about money. Well, her wedding was three point five million, The flowers alone were a half million, The bar tab three hundred thousand dollars, more than most people pay on their wedding for sure.

No wonder that they don't care. She doesn't care about money, and most of this is rakeoff from the Clinton Foundation.

because she's the papers. As a trustee at the Clinton Foundation, she and her husband have made millions of dollars in the family grifting enterprise. She is, according to The New York Post, short tempered, very dirty mouthed, foul mouthed, abusive, entitled, dictatorial,

and difficult to deal with. There's been a huge turnover of staff at the Clinton Foundation, where she runs the day to day operations, because anyone who suggests, but maybe they should spend more of the money on actual charitable activities has a tendency to get fired. Yeah.

for her father, despite three plastic surgeries. Now there are many many people in Arkansas who know that this is a fact. Three weeks ago after this book was published, Chelsea Clinton appeared at a book signing in Austin, Texas, where my co author Robert Morrow asked her in a polite tone, whether her mother ever told her she was the daughter of Webster Hubble. She looked up without missing a beat. You need to see this video because she

looks exactly like Webster Hubble. In fact, I froze a copy of Webster Hubble's picture next to hers online so you can see for yourself. And she said, and I quote, I'm proud to be the daughter of my parents. That's a non answer.

and Chelsea are operators. They both know that the hard denial is the way you'd handle this, unless, of course, you were concerned that somewhere someone had the DNA evidence to prove this link. The photos which I published in the book in color, tell the story itself. There are despite numerous plastic surgeries, and we have before and after pictures, and I think Chelsea's had as many as four facial

plastic surgeries to try to change her appearance. The rubbery lip lower lip of her father just doesn't disappear well.

Happens to drive by it the long time and sees a brown automobile with Arkansas tags from the two Hillary flunkies who I name in the book as dumping the body. How do we know the body was dump Well, the FBI report shows that although Foster's body was found thirty yards down a muddy trail, it had rained that very morning, there was no mud or dirt on his shoes.

fiction section of the bookstore. But she admits in her own book that her immediate concern was that Foster's office would become a crime scene, and she was relieved to hear that he hadn't been killed there because he was she was concerned if he became a crime scene that investigators, federal investigators, would have access to all their most sensitive

personal files. Vince was the keeper of the family secrets, so you'd be able to probably find a ledger for what he was paid by Dan Lassiter, who was essentially running the mina operation from the Arkansas and then taking Bill Clinton Bill Clinton's cut of the massive drug trafficking that was coming into the state under Vice President George Bush.

George Bush is running with his right hand man, Felix Rodriguez and this fellow Don greg who by the way, gets caught using a government credit card to pay for gay prostitutes. They orchestrate the entire illegal arms for drugs dealing of Iran contract. I think Reagan is actually largely in the dark. This is a Bush operation. Yet when Bush is confronted when he's running for president, he says he was out of the loop out of the loop, Chuck, he was the loopy.

And believe me, that's something I want to get into with you at some point here, because you were somebody who worked for Nixon. And I've got to say that over time, you know, although at the time it was happening, you know, the whole Watergate scandal and everything, he was pilloried quite heavily by the press, by people who were you know, political pundits of their time and all of that. But the truth is, when you look at it back in retrospect, this guy was no more a criminal than

anybody else. I think, quite honestly, this is what I state, and you might disagree with me, but quite Honestly, Nixon was a victim of having challenged the intelligence complex in a way that they didn't want, and it was too soon to put a bullet in somebody else's head, so they got rid of our battle their way, right.

planning how to take them down. And they pre wired the appeals court in essence going to the chief Judge saying make sure that every appeal on Watergate is heard on bank, meaning five judges instead of three. There were three Democrats and two Republicans on the DC appeals bench, so the Watergate burglars never got a fair trial. Nixon was denied due process, as were the burglars. Sirrica would

have been impeached had this been known. That is an enormous breach to meet expartheid with one side in a highly charged trial like this. This book absolute he must be read to get the true story of the takedown of Richard Nixon. And you're absolutely right. He ended the Vietnam War. That's not what they wanted. And he withdrew the troops on a much faster accelerated schedule than the Pentagon wanted. When they grudguingly agreed to withdraw at all,

he was going to be spending less. Of the defense contractors who were hoping for a big hard line push in Vietnam too, so they could profiteer. They soured on him. The secret initiative to go around the CIA to forge a peaceful relationship with the Chinese infuriated them. The Salt agreements with the Russians, in which Nixon agreed to strategic arms cuts on both sides, some of the most historic statesmanship in this country's history, moving awards a safer world.

They were apoplectic about that Nixon was taken down by the Central Intelligence Agency, but also by his own errors. The Watergate conspiracy was infiltrated, and I go into this intensively in my book, But there's also more nefarious deeds here. John W. Dean is the villain of Watergate. He is the man who plans, pushes cases out, and then covers up the Watergate break in, and then when he realizes he's going to get caught, he shifts blames to others,

including Richard Dixon. And this is very clear that his own books are flawed because they are missing enormous segments of the tapes. He put out a book last year that was the definitive word on Watergate, he said, but he omits the tapes of March thirteenth, seventeenth, and twentieth of he and Richard Nixon, in which he is running the criminal conspiracy to cover up, and he's coaching Nixon on how to commit perjury. So Dean is busted, and

you're absolutely right. The story of Nixon is a fascinating one. He was deeply flawed, but he desegregated the public schools. He gave us federal revenue sharing, which meant our tax money was going to be decided on how to spend it at the local level, not in Washington. He desegregated

the construction unions. He saved the state of Israel in the am Kipper War single handedly over the objections of Kissinger and the Joint chiefs with a multi million dollar airlift of lethal aid, the Israelis having their backs against the sea from a charging Egypt. So it is you know, he achieved many great things, right, not the least of which I mean.

leaders would get taken to the cleaners. They didn't take Nixon to the cleaners. We got something for everything we gave.

and you guys know this. But the fact is, if you take a look at even just the pictures in the center of this thing. And I did more than that. I read through a lot of it, and I started showing people some of these photographs. But just the photographs in the center of this book are actually worth the price. You know, this, this gentleman, mister Williams we're talking about here, who is to my satisfaction based on what I can

see and what I've heard before. By the way, because this is a story that I don't think has been really out there in the media stream very well. You know, you take a look at just the photograph of Williams next to a photograph.

She's the one who sent him away. One of the things I was able to prove is that Bill would have Christmas presents delivered to Danny's home every Christmas without Hillary knowing about it. It was Hillary therefore who banished Danny.

it's not true. Blythe was in the service. If you count the months and you figure it out, the old timers in Hope, Arkansas would confirm that Virginia, his mother, was intimate with doctor George Wright, and that right is

Bill Clinton's father, Wright has three other sons. That means by matching the DNA of one of the Wright brothers and Danny Williams, which is exactly the exact genetic match that was done to prove that Thomas Jefferson had fathered a child with the black slave Sally Hemmings, would prove definitively that Bill is Danny Williams father.

He wants to shake his father's hand, as he says in my book, he wants to meet his biological father. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, He doesn't do drugs. He's an upright young man, and he lives in a very troubled environment. He struggles to make ends meet. This last Thanksgiving was tough on him. He is five months to feed, in a small business to run while he's still going to school, and his father is fabulously wealthy.

It's time for Hillary to put Look, you apologize for banishing this point, and for Bill to do the right thing and supportive.

no clue about how to behave in a moral fashion. No, it doesn't matter what I think.

can do drugs, they can traffic drugs. They can have people beaten, they can murder people, they can hide evidence, they can tamper with witnesses, they can use strong arm tactics, they cheat, they make millions, and they are never held accountable. The laws literally don't apply for them. This qualifies as the Clintons, the Bushes, and many and many the Rockefellers. There's a certain elite out there who aren't subject to the same rules as the rest of us.

we are definitely disagree with them. I disagree with him on so many issues, like the drug war, for example, and we.

get even more interesting. I promise you stay tuned. Welcome to the World's Meeting place, American man.

and I'm your host, Chuck o'celly Roger Stone. So far tonight we have discussed everything from the Clintons who were a part of the Bush crime syndicate, which I'm sure mister Stone is not going to disagree with me there as you heard in the first hour, but if you missed it, you definitely have to go back and get the archive, because there has been a plethora of information laid out for you from a man who has been a political insider for decades, for somebody whose lineage goes

very easily from you know, Nixon, the easy the easy points of you here Nixon to Trump, as far as being somebody who's been an advisor and many many stops in between. Of course, the book we're focusing on for the most part tonight is The Clintons War on Women. And I say again that if you want to join in the discussion, guys, the uh, the the lines will be open at two one eight three, three nine eight five two five once again two one eight, three, three

nine eight five two five. And hey, you know we we do this live, so you guys can interact with the guests and myself any which way. Just I ask that you'd be respectful. Is all just to the guests, not necessarily to me. You can attack me if you like, but not the guests. Okay, So moving forward. You know, everybody when they talk about the Clintons and they talk about the scandals, and they talk about the reality of their hypocritical behavior, their immorality, I mean, everybody always jumps

to the big store, right. The Monica Lewinsky story all about you know what happened with this young lady who I think her entire life was ruined simply because she made some poor decisions and got herself excuse the pun here, maybe sucked into a bad situation, you know, regarding a man of power who happened to be in front of her at the time, et cetera.

And you're right, they've destroyed her life because they try to convince people that she was crazy, that she they said she was a stalker. That's right. She showed up every time Clinton sent for her.

had to follow him and cover this. Well. Then, of course the proof of that is it led to a formal impeachment inquiry. That's how serious the problem was, right, And let's.

lines with Bill. His own driver. L. D. Brown says he would drive Clinton to Dan Lassiter, the drug dealer's office, and Clinton would come out after snorting coke out of a giant bowl. It would be glazed. There's actually a picture of Bill Clinton high on cocaine, glaze eyed in L. D. Brown's book, which I believe we reproduced in the book. Yeah, actually he did.

own case. Every woman needs to read this book before the twenty sixteen election, and they need to hand it to another woman and get her to read it.

do charitable works specifically building houses for poor people. And he received no honorariums, no paid speeches, served on no corporate boards. Bill Clinton has made one hundred million dollars since leaving the White House, and that's conservatively. He made thirty five last year alone. As I think I said earlier, Hillary's worth about eighty five to one hundred. Chelsea, aged thirty five, She's worth an estimated eighteen and a half

million dollars. So these people have plundered at the public troth. Bill was the only president who has been willing to work essentially as a lobbyist, mostly for foreign interests, cutting shady deals with the other capitalists in the world, the other regimes. But no other president has worked as a lobby and that when that lobbying practice started to smell

so bad. A company called Tineo that was set up by Clinton's then right hand man now estranged and maybe problematic because he is a witness to many of Bill's sexploits when he was at Epstein's place, and he's privy to many other scandals. Because you know, Bill and Hillary, even for example, when they're in the same city, they not only don't stay in the same room, they don't stay in the same hotel.

Vietnam War. When he learned all of that, he essentially ousted the regime at the CIA that was responsible for it, and he put in his own director, Stansfield Turner, who was not a favorite of the old timers. He fired all the Koch were guys responsible for what had gone down,

and this came back to haunt him. They all camped out at the George Bush for President campaign in nineteen eighty, which was very much the candidate of the spooks in the states where I was organizing for Ronald Reagan New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and through the Northeast. The Bush campaign locally was all retired quote unquote CIA guys and a few wasps from the country club or you know, people who were in the finest families in terms of the waspy set. That that's absolutely true.

endearing and harmless. There is nothing harmless about the House of Bush and their use of Saudi money and Saudi influence and their self dealing and their corruption of US government because of it. Look, even today we can't get twenty eight pages from the nine to eleven Commission report.

is a state not federal crime. Therefore, the investigation would be and could be controlled by Lyndon Johnson. Why I think he is indispensable.

proud of that book. It's a New York Times bestseller, and I invite you to give it a read. It's very fast moving. I think you'll find it fascinating.

goes to French intelligence, where she has friends. She is of course a bouvoir, and the they conduct their own independent investigation. They conclude that Lyndon Johnson is the lynch pin. Senator Barry Goldwater believed it, which is documented in my book. Robert Kennedy believed it. Jacqueline Kennedy believed it. This is all a findable in the book. So many many people did.

I think if you step back and look at the larger picture, as the Latins say, Pode costs seclist spect which means he who committed the crime is the one who derives the greatest benefit.

eyewitness evidence ties the crime directly to Johnson. In that the fingerprint found in the sixth floor sniper's next on the cardboard boxes, which has now been confirmed at least five times over by independent experts in addition to the original one Nathan Darby, is the print of man named Malcolm Wallace. Wallace is a hit man for Lyndon Johnson.

We know this because he was convicted of murder in a trial where he in cold blood shot a man who was having an affair with Johnson's nefarious bisexual party girl sister. He was defended at trial by Johnson's personal attorney. He was bailed out of jail by two of Johnson's closest largest donors, and Johnson hold up in a hotel room near the courthouse in the rural county outside of Dallas,

where Malcolm Wallace, the killer was being tried. Wallace is convicted, therefore we get his fingerprints those Max the fingerprints in the sniper's nest. Additionally, six men or women tell either the FBI or the Dallas police that they see a man in the sixth floor window just before the shooting who is heavy set, middle aged, baulding and wearing spectacles. They all say spectacles. That's Malcolm Wallace, a perfect description of him in nineteen sixty three.

to try to take him down. It will be han chowed by John Kasik, but the money will be funneled to Kasik by Marco Rubio. The Rubio Kasick deal is cut. Marco Rubio for president and the Ohioan John Kasick for vice president. They are going to raise from the manufacturers, the Chamber of Commerce, the special interest, the lobbyists, the establishment, several hundred million dollars and they are going to launch a vicious attack on Donald Trump, an attempt to take

him down. Meanwhile, you have Ted Cruz moving up the side, running a very disciplined campaign, really making great strides among the very substantial evangelical Christian segment of these early caucuses in primaries, probably a dominant group there in Iowa, not as dominant or as important in New Hampshire. Trump, in my opinion, could win the Iowa caucuses, but he could also come in second. Second would be acceptable because I frankly think New Hampshire is more hospitable to him, and

he could bounce back there with the proper campaign. I know then that he would sweep South Carolina. He has an excellent operative there who knows what he's doing, which you can't say for everybody in the Trump campaign. But the man who's handling South Carolina is very adept, very skilled,

has an excellent grassroots operation. I think the fellow who's working Iowa, who really is the man who engineered the Santaorum victory four years ago, a victory that Santorum was cheated out of when the media incorrectly reported Mitt Romney as a surprise winner. I think that that was, you know, that was remains to be seen. I do think Trump could come out first or second in Iowa and still end up as the nominee of the Republican Party.

abrasive statements coming out. I mean, not the least of which, Now you know, I don't know if you've kept up on it. I'm sure you have, though, you know, with this whole thing about checking Muslims, I mean, I don't know how you feel about that, but I'm going to.

and it calls for temporary, desperate message measures. Now, of course, the headline is Trump wants to ban Muslim immigration, as if he's saying we should ban it for all time, which, by the way, even though you've got a bunch of talking heads saying that that's unconstitutional, federal law clearly gives the president the right to block any immigrant group, any alien group, as the law says, for any period of time that he shall decide if they pose a threat

to the national interest. He has this authority, so the courts would obviously have to rule on that. But I just don't think it's again. I think the media is quick to try to villainize Trump regardless if we disagree here. Let me tell you where I think this will go politically, and that is Trump will move up in the polls. This will further galvanize his support, which would increase his

chances of being nominated. Now and he went a general election, those who say that he's a loser are that's mistaken. It's a narrow path. But if you look at all of the polls, and I don't mean the call in polls, I don't mean the ones where you can hit refresh and vote again and hit refresh and vote again. I'm talking about scientific polls with a proper sample, driven by someone who understands polling and the mathematics they're in, and

who understands questioning techniques. If you look at those polls, Trump is running substantially better among blacks, among Catholics and among working house apartment union households that either John McCain or Mitt Romney was able to achieve or ever even got close to. So that tells me that he would have to bring a lot of He would have to win in those groups. He'd have to make incursions into

those democratic groups. He would also have to bring in literally millions of people who just don't vote because they are disgusted with the two party duopoly and they think the whole thing is fixed, which, by the way, they're not wrong, they're right. But if they really believe that Trump would somehow not not be beholden to assist him because he takes no campaign contributions. You see, even though Trump and I disagree on many many things, this is

what I like about him. I think you can't buy him, you can't bully him. He doesn't always presidency to another billionaire, or to a super pack or to a corporation, or to a special interest or a special pleader. He's his own man. And I think in the end he may make mistakes, but he will do what he thinks is right. You know.

he's his own man. Nobody puts words in his mouth, no one ever did. He makes his own decisions. He is his own strategist. He is you know, he has run a multi billion dollar company. He has made complex decisions. He understands the art of negotiation. He's writ in my opinion about us being taken the cleaners in these one sided trade deals with the Chinese and the Japanese and the Mexicans. We need better deals for the American people. It's now the very same people who used to kid

me and say, oh, come on, he's not running. This is an exercise in publicity and branding, burnishing the brand and the fact that he likes to hear himself talk. Then they said, oh, okay, he's running, but he'll never file his necessary financial disclosures, which he filed on time. It was Jeb who had to keep filing for extensions. Then they said he would not show up or make a fool of himself in the early debates. He went up after every debate. I think his unscripted nature is

entertaining to people. He is a man working without a net. You never know what he might say, speaks from the heart, and you know whether or not there were hundreds or thousands of Muslims or just handsful of Muslims celebrating on nine to eleven. It doesn't take away from the fact that there are some Muslims already in this country who hate us, and who are don't and who were pleased by what happened to us on that date that is deniable.

And this is what I feel. This is my prediction. And you know you can, you can toss it any which way you want. But the thing is, it looks more to me like I'm going to gain the leverage here, I'm going to hand it over to somebody else. And and and then guess what people owe me?

he's got his own seven twenty seven. He's got a place he'd much rather be this time of year in Florida. He owns not only the fabulous Dorale Country Club in Golf Court, but he also has the Jewel of Palm Beach, the mar Lago Estate, which is a private club. So he has a very rarefied and like he's got a great family, he's got great kids. He likes to spend time with his kids. And he is running for president. Believe me, he's not doing it for someone else.

According to your estimation right now.

Ted Cruz. And by the way, Marco has Paul Singer, the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Nagelson, He's going to have multi millions to run his campaign. Then you have Senator Ted Cruz, who's run a very focused and disciplined, long game campaign, who's who was probably the best debater in the Republican Party, certainly somebody that I'd feel good about going ahead to head with Hillary in a debate at least even though I am, as you know, a strong Trump supporter, I

like dead Cruise. It's going to be one of those three. Nobody else has the legs, or the infrastructure or the money to survive. I really think, Jeb, if you saw a front page story at least I saw it online, it was I think a Washington Post story, but I saw it in the Sun Sentinel newspaper. Jeb has already expended almost thirty million dollars and gone nowhere. He has spent lavishly on media. People are seeing Jeb talking about national security and it's not moving the needle, not even

an iota. So I would argue that the Republican nominee will be one of those three. How long Trump stays in the race depends on how he does. I don't think there's a preordained plan that he's going to drop out at a date. Certain if he started running fifth and he had no prospect of being nominated, you know, who knows what he might do. He's not a fool, he wouldn't throw good money after bad. But he's a fighter, and he wants the presidency. He certainly wants to win

this race. He's disgusted by the stupid leadership that we've had. He thinks we keep making all kinds of dumb decisions that aren't in our national interest. He wants to make the country rich again. He wants to make us prosperous again. He wants to create jobs. He wants to rebuild our military and he would like to have a foreign policy that has some common sense to it. We keep switching sides. We end up fighting our own guns because we can't decide who to arm, or we don't even keep tracks

of who are arming to the teeth. You're worried about ISIS. George W. Bush created ISIS and Hillary armed ISIS. That's a fact.

He said he wanted to wait until he spoke to the Prime minister. Completely fair in my opinion. And then this morning there was this incredible scene on Morning Joe where he was talking. He answered three questions in three minutes, not unreasonable, and suddenly Joe Scarborough blows up and says, you're filibustering. You're not letting us talk, You're not letting us answer questions. You just keep talking. If you don't stop, we're going to go to break and Trump says, what

are you talking about? I'm answering your questions. Do you not want to hear what I have to say?

and they're gonna shove push forward. I really feel that way, because it's like it's like a pop balloon.

in prison or went to prison. He has got what I think are tangential involvement in drugs, which I have as a major centerpiece in my upcoming book, Jeb and the Bush Crime Family. I got to tell you, when you write a book like this, one hundred the eight hundred dollars an hour, lawyers for your publisher put you through the ringer on libel at slander and documentation. And none of this, none of the bombshell revelations about the

bushes and drugs, assassination, murder, adultery, gay prostitutes. This is a very colorful story in Jeb and the Bush Crime Family, which you can actually even though it's not out until late January. And I'm going to Manchester, New Hampshire to launch this book just before the New Hampshire primary to make sure Chuck, you're wrong. I need to make sure you're wrong.

on Women book. But I do still have this sticking point, which is that, you know, remember there was this candidate Clinton who did not stand a chance, it seemed, and even despite some of the you know, some of the scandals erupting at the time, this guy came from behind, showed up and turned in second in one of those primaries. And you know that's where that phrase got coined, the

comeback kid, and emerged from seemingly nowhere. And meanwhile, they had laid the groundwork for years for al Gore to be that man.

Clinton was the guy who said, we've got to pull back working class white Democrats in the West in the South, and he was able to successfully do so. I think he was more skillful than al Gore. Al Gore was a stiff. Al Gore didn't have the chops or the political skills of Bill Clinton, who can be very charming, who's a real con man. Al Gore is a guy that never had any game none. He was a stiff. He made Nixon look you look smooth. He was so bad on the stump in three debates with George W. Bush,

he was three different guys. He couldn't figure out who he was. They had no consistency. First he was too tough, then he was too soft, and then he maybe he was just right it's hard to know. He booted the presidency. And I think that in the end, who did George? Who did Bill Clinton go to for vice president? This is almost unheard of. Arkansas and Tennessee border each other, but he goes to al Gore for vice president.

next book. I'm focusing on the death of John F. Kennedy Junior, because he was warming up for the US Senate seat that Hillary decided to run for, and there are many, many, many strange things about his death and the flight the mainstream media has not covered correctly. So that is the book I'm working on today. Anyway, without getting sidetracked, I think al Gore figured out that Hillary wanted the presidency and his winning was not in the cards.

I don't think the Clintons were at all unhappy with the election of George W. Bush. After after all, George W. Says Bill is like his brother, and that makes Hillary his sister in law. As I said earlier, right Barbara Bush described Barbara Bush describes Baba as the fifth Bush brother.

all back on the table. The Clintons have decided to gamble at all. They could both be destroyed in this campaign. I think they will be destroyed in this campaign. You're right. People have fond memories and they generally like Bill Clinton. That's going to change because he didn't know when to retire. He didn't know when to keep grasping for power. As he told a very high level Democrat a year ago, if I get Hillary in there, I'll be running the show.

through his father, Ambassador Joseph P. Kennedy. They had been promised that the new administration would not harass and try to deport Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello, the two most important mobsters of their day. Marcello ran the mob in Texas in Louisiana and Trafficante ran the mob in Florida, both by the way, major donors to Lyndon Johnson, and they were double crossed. When Joe Kennedy was struck and was hit with a stroke and was incapacitated, Attorney General

Robert Kennedy went after both mobsters. That's why they are involved Big Texas Oil, which is the funny and seer. In my opinion, I make this case in the book of the Kennedy assassination. I think that they know they're upset about the repeal of the oil depletion allowance, which Kennedy's going public on. Lyndon Johnson is the key chief water carrier. Now. Johnson has a key connection to each one of those. During the fifties, he sits on the

secret budget committees, is very rare. The Senate Majority leader never sits on a committee, but he has the authority to appoint himself to a committee. Johnson appointed himself to the Subcommittee of the Aerospace and Defense Appropriations, where the black box secret budgets of the CIA are handled secretly. When he leaves to become Vice president, he ensconces as

his last act, leaving the Senate. Senator Harry F. Bird of Virginia, a close core cohort and loyalist, but who is also the cousin of D. H. Bird, the man who owns the Texas school Book Depository and the chairman of the Lyndon Johnson for President Finance Committee in nineteen sixty. So J. Johnson's also being paid by the mob through

a man by name Jack Helfer. He's being bribed by Marcello to tell the the US attorneys in San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas to stand down in their investigation to the mob's illegal gambling operations. Halfer would later be pardoned by Lyndon Johnson, the Bagman, when he was convicted on another crime. So everybody's motive is clear. And of course Lyndon Johnson is the cheap water carrier for the Texas oil lobby's why I think, and his control of the Texas local

Law enforcement the DA makes him an indispensable person. So anyone who says Osta says Stone says it was Johnson not the CIA, or Stone says it was Johnson not the Mob, That's not what I say. Read my book. Thanks, So what do you think of that?

murder of Kennedy. Caro tells you what a consummate actor and bs artist and manipulator Lyndon Johnson is. So those tapes are all interesting, but Hoover, and Hoover tells Johnson, we've got a problem. There's another guy running around saying in Mexico City saying he was Oswalt. But it doesn't match the guy seen by our agents or viewed on the tape. So there's a lot of there's a lot

of interesting stuff in the Johnson recordings. Johnson, if you listen to any of these recordings which are online, he is a master of chicanery, lying, thundering, yelling, cajoling, sweet talking, begging, manipulating. The tapes are absolutely breathtaking.

but nobody's motive is more acute than Johnson. And here's why. He knows that December first Life Magazine's breaking a story on his corruption and the millions that he has made. He knows the story has been fed to them by the Justice Department, and that Johnson is implicated in two giant scandals, the Billy Salastie scandal, where Johnson's taking kickbacks from Salstice, a Texas wheeler dealer who Johnson has arranged to get enormous federal multimillion dollar phony contracts and the

Bobby Baker scandal. Bobby Baker is the Secretary of the US Senate and he's Johnson's bag man. No nothing moves in the Senate without a giant cash payoff to good Old LBJ and his partner Bobby Baker. Johnson knows that the Justice Department is investigating both the FBI is questioning people. He knows that Bobby Kennedy is feeding this information to Time Life through Henry Loose. He knows that this story is going to break December first, and he is the

cover and it's all over. It's the jail time for good Old LBJ. He also knows that the Sunday column for Drew Pearson the day after Kennedy was shot, was scheduled to be a column that exposed Johnson in taking a giant multimillion dollar bribe in the TFX matter where he was bribed by General Dynamics, and as Vice president, he reached into the Defense Department, reversed the decision and delivered this contract to his cronies that was also coming

home to roost, and he knew it as president. Of course, he was able to stop all of those investigations that drew. Pearson's story was spiked and was never rescheduled, and Pearson can be heard on tape with his nose of Johnson's dairy air.

because yes, he was an actor. But could he have accounted for every time in private?

time giving them full credit and all I ask. And I respect folks like Chuck who have a different theory, studied it and given it fair consideration. I respect them. This is a this is about a discussion. But I think if you will read those books and I hopefully mine, I'd be honored you will reach the same conclusion I did. But I appreciate your questions. They're very good.

I'm sure. But it is really, really extremely enthralling to me that this book right here, which again I'm holding in my hands, the Clinton's War on women gives you a real serious deep glance into exactly how deep the rabbit hole truly goes regarding the multiple conspiratorial things that occurred here to bring about the rise to power and all of the things that went on after, you know, post the rise to power.

bookend stories, they're in it together. And I think that's like the major parties. It's one party, the Wall Street Party, the big money party, the special interest party, the party of endless war and spying on American citizens. It's the party of erosion of our civil liberties, millions and million dollars of debt. Look, I was excited to see that you asked me. I'm a big fan of the show. I'm really honored that you had me here. We had

a really good time and I've enjoyed it well. Again, thank you.