Ochelli Effect 1-13-2016 Ed Opperman Trump NJ NYC Stories Re-Issue

And guess what, you know, it's one of those days. It's a Wednesday, not my usual days as I used to broadcast, right, I used to do it on Tuesdays,

Thank you.

So moving forward, you know, I take a look at the news speeds every time before I go on my show, no matter what time of day it is, no matter what's subject I'm going to talk about, I look at the news feeds, usually in disgust, and do that, right. I also take a listen to my preparation music. I've got a little ritual before I do this. But the thing is, you know today what happened, well, Jay, we have the release of those Sailors, which I told you would happen precisely as it did.

Yesterday that you know, this whole.

Alarm over Iran has some of our sailors, and I told you these guys very likely just kind of got lost, and therefore we're taken most properly.

Into custody and then would be released to us quickly.

Told you yesterday that was the first time that I actually believed something coming from a White House spokesperson in a very very long time.

But then again, maybe I'm just a touch cynical.

See the show last night, Second Hour, want to hear how cynical I am about these parties and the way they speak.

Anyway back to.

It, you know, there really wasn't much else outside of the parade of trump Ism, and god knows what else you know being spread around. Did the South Carolina governor go too far and calling out somebody who is besmirching they're already quite smeared party, etc.

Etc.

I've got no use for either side of the alleged two party system, as.

You might be well aware.

But hey, it is entertainment after all, and it makes a lot of sense that a reality star is still polling quite high.

Although being threatened by Ted.

Cruz, who now has a birth issue of his own.

Etc. Etc.

Right, Ted Cruz to me is just one of these guys.

And I hate to do this, but because it sounds judgmental, you know, he just he seems muppet like to me.

I don't know, maybe it's just me.

And maybe then again, one of those things I blurted out while I was sitting there watching the television feed, if you will, with my son earlier today, was a year and a half old and only speaks in odd collections of noises at this point. But you know, I do make comments to him quite often when I'm not on the air, and one of them was, you know, just blurted it out off the top of my head.

To be challenging you, what does that say?

And after all, I think one thing she could do to improve her chances, although I don't really want to give her advice is maybe adjust that very very pompous looking hairdo.

That might help a little bit.

But hey, and that is the type of world we live in at this point, because after all, the actual substance of the individuals that are being presented to you for the upcoming selection is really irrelevant, much.

As the office has become.

And much as the political system has become in general. Anyway, enough of that, enough of the seriousness. I want to have a good time tonight, and I brought on somebody who I know I'm going to have a good time with. I did last time we did this, and every time I have a conversation with this guy or take a listen to his show, no matter what he's talking about, you know, I do actually enjoy it. It's one of those things where we can get some information a little

We can go and get your stuff.

But you're also hurt on speaker and actually, tonight, I think this dream is going out over speaker and iHeartRadio and stuff as we speak, ed, how are you feeling tonight? And sorry I rambled for so many minutes. No, I enjoyed it, man, I liked a little rift there.

That's pretty cool. And I agree with you, man, you know, I totally enjoy I just had you on the show last week. We taked an hour. I think I wanted to do like an hour and a half or two hours, but I had to pick up my kid, had a

Well, yeah it is.

You know, it's a good thing and it's a bad thing, because I'll tell you one I'll tell you one very interesting thing about that that always gets me is whenever I leave the Northeast for a little while and then go back to it, I have to get myself on the round running again because there's sort of a high tension atmosphere to the Northeast. At the same time, though you have the most diverse culture, you know, some of

But you know, and New York is.

And that's that's fascinating too, because you notice that was Ted Cruz's big counter today to to the Donald, right, is well, he's a New York guy, you know, which is supposed to be a really derogatory thing, and it's kind of like, well, yeah, he's a New York guy. It is derogatory, But really, is it any different than what's actually going on and the rest of the nation, except maybe we talk a little faster, maybe the city's a little dirtier and people don't notice, maybe things are

Right, But that'll play good in Iowa and New Hampshire and North Carolina, you know, because because when it's like what I call it the dog whistle, you know, if he says new York, that practically means New York jew some of those people down there, you know, when he's tu me that New York attitude and that New York corruption, you know, New York arrogance, you know, Donald Trump, so I guess it'll play big down there.

And that's That's the funny thing about Trump too, is that one thing he does embody certainly is that East Coast kind of attitude, you know, because I'm gonna be bombastic. I don't care. I'm gonna spit out whatever I want to spit out, and you can.

Deal with it, you know.

And I got to give it to him for that, even though I think he's a clown and absolutely and legitimate, you know, candidate to hold any sort of office, and I certainly don't want this guy representing me anywhere.

You know.

Sorry, maybe I'm still a little angry because I lived near the uh you know, the the demolition zone that was Atlantic City and know about his business and the way things are conducted, and you know, but you can see how uh you sort you sort of see how that's abrasive to that to those areas of the country where that is a dog whistle that does scream, you know, uh jew and and also scary guy and also uh you know, from the most dangerous, violent, crazy area possible, et cetera, et cetera.

Too.

Right, Ope, I'm not.

Sure if ed can hear me, But sorry about that, and I did go for a minute there and maybe I muted or something. Oh well, okay, But the thing about it is that it becomes a derogatory of characterization in some parts of the country. Funny you mentioned North Carolina, because that's where I'm sitting quite unfortunately at the moment. But I do have a long enough memory to know exactly what happens when Donald Trump's business acumen is applied to a local community, so far as Atlantic City goes.

You know, hey, Chuck, have you been to one of these Trump rallies?

Physically?

No, you gotta do it, Okay, I went down. I've covered a couple of Bernie rallies, and as a matter of fact, I'm gonna have Bernie on my show. I'm gonna get twenty minutes with Bernie Sanders and he's gonna be on my show. I'm gonna do an interview with them. Yeah, I know, I'm really stoked. We just worked on this yesterday. But I've been to a couple of Bernie rallies. I've been to three of them, and I've been to one Trump rally here in Vegas. And the Trump rally is

You know.

You can spot these guys and they run the whole thing, and it's like a that's like how he'll run the country with using the cops, using cops and thugs and goons to control us. Yeah, I know, man, and I

Well, that's the amazing thing to me, really is that so many people are gravitating to him because you know, they think he's speaking from their point of view, you know, and and I don't know how how crazy that it is, you know, like how you can even begin to make that leap that that this is a guy who could represent anybody else sitting in that audience, because he's on a totally different level.

He always has been.

I mean, you want to talk about an elitist, Yeah, he's again a little more greasy than your usual elitist. I want to talk more about Bernie Sanders though, by the way, before I forget, but finishing up on Trump, I mean this guy personality wise. I'm not saying appearance wise, and I'm not even gonna pick.

On his hairdoob.

But the thing is just looking at him and just watching the way that he's behaved over the years. He's an elitist, but with kind of a kind of a greasy bent to him.

You know what I mean. I know exactly what you mean. And you know, people from New York, we know about Trump University, which was a total con game. It was a total scam where he sets up a telet marketing company basically he calls a Trump University, and a couple of these people got scammed at a thirty thousand dollars to become students. Of Trump University, and every time they bought a course, all they got was more phone calls. And it's telemarketers to get them to buy more courses.

He has no shame.

He repeats it over and over and over again like a peachy barnum. He knows he's a sucker born every minute and he's got he's got this country. And to promise him, oh my thoughts getting they're coming in the room, he had to tie me down, tell me to calm down.

It's okay, it's okay.

We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll dial it back just a little.

But I mean, yeah, you know, two funny things that I noticed, by the way, just this evening, I think it was Aaron Burnett had him on a phone conversation where they were going over some of the stuff going on, and uh, you know, and he turns around in his you know, Trump like fashion and says, how many times do I got to repeat myself?

I've already said it twice?

And uh, and she just flipped back at him real quick, well three times would probably work, you know, And I went, wow, that was that was pretty funny, because that that's the most backhanded little bit of sarcasm I've seen a mainstream reporter give him in a while. And interestingly enough, when he starts talking about business and how well I run a business and all these other things. You know, somebody did remind him of his bankruptcies during one of the debates, remember that.

Yeah, but even that's a softball because look at his connections to the convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

Yeah, I know, because it.

Really irks me. It really does bug me because I got a kid about the same age as one of his victims. You know, this girl, Virginia Roberts, you know, she worked for Trump when she was picked up by Jeffrey Empstein's pimp who was brought to Epstein's. How she was inlested by Epstein, passed around to people at Prince

Well, yeah, what's amazing to me too, is that is that this is you know, I realize that it's tailor made for the TV people, right because they've been slipping in the ratings. They couldn't sell you know, I still contend we're looking at a Bush candidacy that's going to be resurrected, but they couldn't sell that. That would not get them TV ratings. Okay, there's no way that you know, if they just berated Bush and Hillary excuse me, Hillary in front of us all the time. Nobody would want

It, okay, just the fact that he had three marriages alone, and these three failed marriages. And by the way, just to give you an idea of how far back I go with Trump. When he was cheating with Marla Maples against Evonna Trump and the press first found out about it, we were out one night, a sad dated a lot of flight attendants at the time, and we're out one night and they said to me, he says, you never believe who was at our house, hiding at our apartment

Good, So I.

Said, purely as a joke, I said, well, let's tap the phones and we could sell it to the National Inquiry. Okay. So we never tapped the phones, but as a joke. So I told the joke later on to some guys who were involved with Trump, one of his private investigators

Yeah, right, And you know, and he does employ a lot of guys that are that are private investigators and stuff like that. I remember being amazed at that, Remember when when he was really trying to get to get himself deep into the world of boxing, Right, I knew people that worked, you know, in that kind of business, in promotion, in uh, you know, it's what would you call it at this point, like production, except for live

Used to call it all it well back in those days when when when Tyson was doing all the fights at the Trump properties in the Atlantic City, Tyson hired Bo Deedle as his head of security and Bodel had a five hundred thousand a year contract doing Mike Tyson security. Because I used to hang out with Bo back in those days. Every single night at the Durro Land. We would drink up until seven am.

Listen.

And I love Bo Needle by the way, because here's another guy, but see bows a little different because when he speaks, he doesn't care about what anybody hears or what anybody you know what I mean. When he decides to make a statement, he makes a statement. I love that guy, by the way. Just so you know, you know what, I love.

Him too, and he is politically hung by the balls. You have no idea that could he's a billionaire now, you know, as a police commissioner when he's a p I firm. So and I got a picture of me and Bow on my wall. Uh but so Bo had the contract to do Mike Times and Security.

Okay.

And the rumor going around, and it's even in one of the books too, that Trump was sleeping with the tyson's wife. Yeah, yeah, that what's going on? Man? No one talks about that guy's running for president.

Well, you know, he's gonna do more for women, uh, you know, than than than Hillary ever, could you.

Know, Chersey, that's why people the Miss t USA pageant had the Miss USA pageant and had it all moved down to Trump properties. I wonder what's going on with that, because you know what, there's an article too with this guy who hung out with Trump for a few months and when he was just about to get divorced from Marla Maples, and Marla was making comments like, oh, you should buy another pageant. That's right up your alley. As you know, the rumors about the Plaza hotel in New

Knowing that stuff, and like I said, I wasn't as close to some of these things as you were, but I saw the fallout of it.

You know, I knew some of the people.

That made their living working in Atlantic City, and even with the protection of the alleged unions and everything else, they still got screwed over. Every time, you know, Trump made a move. It seemed like in one way or another, they would shuffle these guys, push them out, do all kinds of weird things to them.

Uh.

You know, his employees, the people that you know are the majority of those. He would wind up representing those type of people, real blue collar human beings always got screwed in the shuffle every time this guy made a move. And uh, it's just amazing to me that anybody in America took this guy seriously.

Yeah, he always stiffed the contractors. Okay, that that's those are well known stories, and he stiffed those contractors and all those workers. But he stuck. He stuck it to the chunk behind guys on Wall Street. One time he bought a property and he got them to sign a personal note that he didn't he didn't they didn't have a lean against the property. And then he just said, I'm not paying it. We got to settle. I'm not paying it. You don't have you don't have a lean

That was part of his normal business practice to turn around and settle, you know, for pennies later after stiffing somebody on a bill.

I mean, and we're not speaking out of school here.

There is a a huge trail of evidence that anybody can find if they want right now to you know, follow through on all that stuff. That's actually part of his normal business practices, right.

And they even brag about it. And in one of their defenses, they had a Condo U two kind of scam going on where they were people were investing money, and part of their defense in the loss it was, well, anybody that's done business with us. No, this is how we operate. I look at the daughter Tulavaka was involved in that. Yeah, that's what her thing was. Anybody's done it was business with us. No, this is that we do it. Yeah, and that that's where I got to give it to him.

Is at the very least, you know, he's not making bones about it, you know, like I said, it's kind of interesting because it matches with the attitude of like I said, Roger Stone, who was on my show, right, you know, he doesn't make any bones about who he is.

You know, it's like, yeah, that's right on a hashet man.

So what of it?

You know, it's like, okay, great, you know, at least you're being honest.

But on another level, Sorry.

I'm sorry, I'm gonna blow any chance I'll ever have of getting Rogers thrown on my show.

Now.

But did you get a chance to ask him about his connections with Al Sharpton?

No? I did not.

Oh yeah, because you know he was the campaign manager when Al Sharpton was running for president. Oh wow, I was not aware of that. Really. Yeah. There's a great series of articles in the Village Voice, and I've tried to get all of these reporters on my show. I can't get one of them to come on and talk about this. And it's called Al Sharpton and the GOP. And he was totally in the bed with the GOP.

He broke Wait a minute, he's responsible for that.

He broke that deal as part of a payoff with Al the motto it's not fresh on my mind. And plus, you know the whole thing about him being an FBI asset, of working for the FBI, Well, yeah.

I've heard all about that, and uh again, don't don't find it unbelievable.

He's never gonna cop to that, you know, oh directly.

It's it's, it's, it's in the it's there's a great series of an expos in the Smokinggun dot com. Okay about it's in FBI documents and court cases that he was the source going around wiretapping people, that he had a phone in his apartment that was a red phone that when it picked up, the FBI heard it live for every conversation on that phone that he was walking

Yeah, Sharpton was informing on all sorts of OC guys, you know, for a long time. There was a joke going around last year where we were describing him by his informant number on air a lot.

Of course.

I was also thrown in the commentary that nowadays he looks a little strange on TV, because you know, I remember Al Sharpton with the track suits, you know, and going around, you know, like we're talking Crown Heights, We're talking Hey, Tawana Brawl.

You remember that name, you know.

Back in those days, right, this guy was a totally different character than you see now on MSNBC.

Vegan. Now he's a vegan, so he lost a lot of weight. Yeah, but you know, also to I interviewed the woman. I forgot her name off the top of my head right now, but who was raped by the Godfather's soul, James Brown. And she has no love lost for alf Sharpton because they would be buddies, those two. And her whole story is, uh, you know, James Brown's downfall on all that PCP coincided with visits with Sharpton, and so that's that's a Jackie Hollander is her name, great guest man and uh, yeah, no.

I forgot about you know, I forgot about her because you know, since since James is gone, you know, it's sort of like I've sort of let that kind of stuff out of my head.

But yeah, I remember that.

Uh. I remember the days when when he was fighting with Innis what's his name on uh Morton Downey Junior's TV show. Remember that they got into that shoving match and he uh it was a Roy Innis right, Yeah, and uh, of course because that was filmed in New Jersey, uh at the time, you know, comes out of the New York area. Everybody forgets about Morton Downey Junior nowadays, But believe me, it was like Jerry Springer long before Jerry Springer, and you had an angry host on top of it.

You know. That's the best way I could have could describe it.

To somebody who's never heard of Morton Downey Junior before but probably won't remember Ron Paul.

Yes, Ron Paul was on the was on the Morton Downey Junior Show nowization Yeah, yeah, for god, what year was that eighty eight? Yeah?

Those are the days, man. Yeah.

I mean a lot of interesting stuff came out of New York and the New York area back then, and Sharpton was definitely one of those characters of interest. I was not aware that Roger Stone had any connection to Sharpton though.

I that totally missed me.

I had not put two and two together either until one night someone grabbed me and says, ed, you realize that's the same Roger Stone, don't you? And then I said, then I looked into it that I says, yeah, it's the same guy. He's Trump's buddy.

Man.

They got pictures name of one of the Trump's rally. He's got the black guy down on the ground, he's kicking him.

And for a while he was part of the Trump campaign, but they parted ways right now. I believe and I got hints, you know, Will talking to him that that honestly, he's an off the books advisor at this point, I think to the Trump campaign, you know, and and that tells you something, because Roger Stone is bombastic. I mean, he definitely, uh you know, is not somebody who's holding his tongue and trying to be politically correct either.

But let's not.

Make it all about Roger Stone.

And I want to get him on my show. Probably never happened now, but.

No, if you.

Don't know, I'll give you the publicist, the contact. I'll help you out with that.

But uh, it's but it's an interesting array of characters. And again I stand back and disbelieve that this guy is still being taken seriously after the wreckage that he caused, you know, with his own business practices, after his own character remember the whole character matters, you know, kind of a thematic thing that went through politics for the longest time.

Where are all those people? I don't know? And this is with with Trump. It's so extreme, just the fact that his first news conference is first when he declass of his presidency. They're all actors. Yeah, he hires these extras for fifty dollars apiece to come there and be his cheering crowd. And then the first thing out of his mouth is that all Mexicans are rapists. How do you get away with that stuff?

Man? How do you get away with it?

He's doubling down on it even today, still talking about, you know, the sixty five year old woman. She would agree that we got to do something about, you know, the sixty five year old woman who is unfortunately a veteran who was raped, sodomized, and murdered, you know, by some illegal immigrant allegedly, right, that whole thing. He goes, well, you know, she would disagree. She would definitely agree with me on my immigration policies. And it's like, what, you know, Wow,

Well, yeah, he's well, you know his dad, you know, we kind of broke that story. I had Aj Webman on the show the day that AJ found out that Trump's dad was busted at a KKK rally in nineteen thirty in New York City. And if you read the flyer, because it's from the New York Times, it was like June thirtieth, nineteen thirty, when I can twenty nine, something like that, and Fred Trump was busted at a KKK round,

And gets away with all sorts of statements that nobody challenges. Now, I unfortunately had to sort of agree with the idea that you know, when he said that Hillary you know, created isis Well, she's not the creator, but she definitely assisted in the encouragement, you know, in my estimation. But then again, I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist. He passes things like this along and nobody even bets an.

I yeah, I know, I know what you're saying. I don't know what to say, man, I don't know what to say. It's but but the thing is, if you had him on your show, would you ask him those questions?

You know?

Probably not, because you still you want them to come on. You don't want them to hang up. You know, if you're there at the rally, you got a chance to answer my question. You don't want to get beat up and kicked out of there. You know.

You know what, I don't think I would do it in person, but I'll tell you what I did. Try and reach out to him to get him on the show. And uh, and and I and and and the offer is open, by the way, if Donald Trump wants to come on and talk to somebody who's completely disgusted with both political parties.

Uh, you know you're you're.

Actually absolutely you have an open invite and I'll cancel whatever show if you want to come on. Okay, So anybody who who hears that I leave the door open, I will have that discussion with him, and believe me, I'll ask him a lot of these.

Questions that you know that I'm firing at you. So I hope he doesn't want to come on tonight. I'll get bumped.

Well, I'll keep you on. You can stay with me.

You know, I doubt imagine him walking into a show with you and me that would that would not work for it. So what we're gonna ask about Bernie. Oh so you know Bernie Sanders. Okay, now here's the thing. I'm gonna be honest with you here. I I'm registered as a libertarian. I don't believe I'm going to vote because at this point in time, I feel as though, you know, the whole thing has already been rigged, it's been selected.

What I do is irrelevant.

That's that's the kind of attitude I have, And I know some people pick on me for it. But the truth is that if I took what these candidates said at face value from either side of the alleged you know, two sided coin that you know, I still say is the Purple Party here in America. The fact is that the two guys that I would even consider would be

Okay, I know it sounds like an AA meeting.

Hi, my name is Chuck, and I voted for Bill Clinton.

But The thing is that among the candidates that are out there, these two are actually speaking about things that matter.

They're not going out there.

And just making these statements based on a political elitism.

At all times, right in my estimation.

But when I said on the show, that excuse me that a guy like Bernie Sanders, who says that, you know, he wants to do things for the country, that he wants to take care of people here, that he thinks that, you know, interventionism, it's not the way to go, and stuff like that. I don't object to.

Those kind of positions that he's taken.

And he's actually addressing the economic woes that we're dealing with domestically, Okay, unlike everybody else who's got a platform to speak at this point in my estimation, Yeah, I agree.

With you, man. And for years and years and years, I've been saying, it doesn't matter who's like it, because they have no power, you know, and the presence just a puppet. They have no power. And I would talk like Cynthia McKinney, you know, and I said, does it really matter? And they would be, oh, yeah, we just need to vote out the rascals, you know. And I had Cindy Shehan on the show and Danny Shean and

No, and you know what, emotionally and on some see, here's the thing I'm weird in that I absolutely believe that.

You know, First of all, the.

Black Panthers have always been mischaracterized anyway. Uh, these were individuals that were, you know, doing things like feeding breakfast to kids in local neighborhoods and stuff like that. Believed in self defense, believed in no longer being trounced upon. And I can't argue with them. Okay, that's the way I see them. And I think that they were absolutely destroyed by j Edgar Hoober and co Intel pro and you know, take a look.

At the the the the.

Decimation of the like Fred Hampton and individuals like that. I mean, they were absolutely feasted upon by a tyrannical section of our government, uh and and demonized, you know, publicly. As a constant, I absolutely support the Black Panthers.

I'm also somebody who believes in gun rights.

I'm also somebody who believes though that you know, that our military has been overextended, over used and used unjustly all over the planet, and you know, things like that. I mean, really, in a lot of ways, I'm kind of like the uh, the uh, the liberal anarchist you know, uh in a lot of ways, Which is funny because people who do shows like mine and say a lot of the things that I do are generally more in

You know, there was a different way of.

Being libertarian when we were coming up a few years ago. Uh, you know that doesn't match what they describe as libertally. Now I see myself more as a classic libertarian that believes that, you know, the government should not be involved in.

Your personal life, things like that.

You know what I'm saying.

I do. And I started out as an anarchist. That was my first position as a kid seventeen eighteen years old, and then I've become over a leftist. It's ease. I think we need to nationalize like the oil companies. We need to nationalize the oil industry. We need to double the tax on the top one percent. And I believed for a very long time that there was no difference

But the thing is, there's a statement for you right there, there's the.

Quote of the day. I don't care about the loss, so gonna go ahead. Sorry. As a defense investigator, my whole life working on organized crime cases from the eighties okay to drug cases, all the kind of stuff. Half of my clients are criminals with illegal guns on them, and they I've never had a problem. I can't get along on everybody, but my plan was to organize this base. But when you hear Bernie at the speeches, you're not going to see it on TV because they don't play

Well, absolutely, And like I said, if I had to, you know, if I really honestly, if I thought it mattered, this would be the.

Guy I would probably support.

Because again, he's speaking to the fact that we're living in essentially a fascist state at this point, where the corporate interests are held over the interests of the people. That is specifically what Mussolini said, you know, regarding what who would know fascism better than Mussolini, but Mussolini said that fascism could be more accurately described as corporatism. And tell me that that is not the state of affairs

And you know, and again those of us.

Who are out there as the workers, you know, I don't know how well you're doing, but it seems to me as though nobody has improved their station in life in the past decade. Really, uh, you know, and what does that say?

You know?

The game is rigged? Yeah, I totally agree with you. It's rigged for guys, middle class guys like us. But when you look at a town like Ferguson, who're like fifty sixty percent of the town all had arrest warrants on them because they're all getting pulled over and get

If you can buy your way out, it's okay.

But if you're in a position where you don't have the money right on, right on your person at that time, you know, next thing you know is you're stuck in a cycle. And that's the way it is in a lot of places in this country, and not just in Ferguson, but there you go. That's one of those instances where it got way out of control. And it seems to me all over the country. Did this encouragement of the way that the police are handling the public is way

You know, it used to be that local, good old boys.

Club no matter where you were, no matter what race we were talking about, that that had, you know, a power base in any locality. But now it's become really militarized in my estimation.

Yeah, and it's in the training. If you look at the Eric Garner case on Staten Island, and I'm from Staten Island, that guy that prosecuted okay that you know that took a dive you know, with the Grand Juria there in Stanton Island. Eric Garner. A lot of people don't know this, but he had he had been arrested many, many times. And one of the times he was arrested, he was put in Rikers Island and he did a handwritten civil rights lawsuit against the New York City Police Department.

Well right, because I'll tell you one thing I can guarantee is that you know, the cuffs will be off, the gloves will be off regarding the policies of policing and things like that, because we've seen personally, you and I both have seen exactly how this guy runs his own personal security, right, Okay, And you know, I hate to use the word because it sounds like it's a racial term, but trust me, it's not racial.

This guy doesn't care about what Racy hires to do it.

Thuggery is encouraged in the Trump you know, business model when.

It comes to the guys who run security.

So believe me when I tell you this is not the guy who's going to want to question the police.

He's going to back them.

Up on every single thing they do, regardless of who gets killed or how. You know this, this this is the kind of guy that, uh that will be there putting in policy if by some miracle ends up in the in the office.

You know, so in that way, I don't know. You know.

Again, take a look at two sides of the coin. If you give me a choice between Sanders and Trump, Uh, you know, Sanders wins if he does nothing, you know.

Trump, he's lost the Spanish voat. It does not the Hispanic voat. That's not the Muslim vote, that's for sure. He lost the women vote. You know, who does he have? He has these old white, angry, scared people that are sitting there in this audience. And there there there scooters talking about ices and mumbling about ices and coming to get them, you know, fearful people.

You know that.

It's a scary crowd over there. Man, I'd say, oh, get this too. Bit. I haven't talked about this on the area yet. But we went. We signed up for the Trump Caucaus training, the Trump he was undercover and going into the caucus training. Because my kids, my kid is fifteen years old, she's all into politics now. She loves Bernie. So we both signed up to go down

Yeah.

Either that or you're gonna have to get somebody to volunteer to do the undercover work for you, to you know, to collect intel on it. I would be fascinated to see what the caucus training is like in the Trump campaign.

What I'm dying to find out.

What a what a world man.

But look, let's let's leave all that alone, because I got other weird things to.

Talk to you about.

I love it because I can go over so many different issues with you. We can talk about, you know, the geo political situation if we want to, and you can handle that. But I love talking to you about some of the more quirky issues in the news too. And I told you that I would want to talk to you about Cosby because we addressed that in a show that we did a few months ago, right when those allegations were really starting to mount. I think there was only maybe you know, ten women that were publicly

Okay, I'll tell you this. I believe this. I believe one hunch percent this guys. He's been drugging these girls and raping these girls. I even suspect, okay, that he's involved, uh possibly with the murder of his son. Okay, and wow, yeah, and I had on Jules Starr, who was a cousin of the daughter who you know, he had his own daughter arrested and put in prison in the same day that a couple of days. Let's get into the whole day with Bill Cosby.

Let's let's you know what.

Let's break it down from jump because uh, you know, everybody thinks him as you know, the jello pudding guy in the Cosby Show and all that. But things took a strange turn around the time that his son was killed. And this was a situation where he's changing a tire and uh, you know, some some attacker comes up and just take his life in a pretty brutal fashion.

Right.

This is this is the way that the story was passed. But this sort of changed Cosby's career and his life and everything else. And at the very same time, like you said, he had this estranged daughter, right who was trying to assume him and and all these other things, and then she winds up getting thrown in prison for extortion. And I mean, it's a really weird story considering you know, like I said, that sort of squeaky clean image that he had for a long time.

Okay, the first thing you gotta do is you got to get out of you had the squeaky clean image, because here's a guy that was best buddy, is almost his whole life with Richard Pryor. Okay, those are the kind of guys that's hanging out. He's hanging out down there at the Playboy Magie.

You know, well, you know what ed ed one second, because you know what, we're only a couple of minutes away from the break at the top of the hour, and I want to just kind of I don't want to break this.

Into pieces, because this is this is.

Worthy of going through in one one, you know, fell swoop and I think it's really interesting the way you're going to look at it.

And I know I've got a slightly different.

Point of view on it because and I'll just throw this out there that way, I won't get in the way of what you're going to explain. You know, the fact is that some of this stuff gets manufactured, and there are people that sort of you know, hang on and tag onto these things when they start to happen. That's the first thing that I got to say about

Okay.

So this is where my skepticism comes from, because listen, if you.

Drop yourself anywhere in Los Angeles.

Right now, you can pick up a million stories about a million different people that you would have never thought were even close to reality, from people.

Who will swear up and down that they experienced all sorts.

Of dark sides of individuals, right, And I think some of the fanfare that came out with this cosmic thing is that I really do. But when you have so much of it piled up, after a while, you got to say to yourself, well, there's probably something legitimate in here, and I want to get to that, because again, you know, people keep going, look it's the yellow pudding guy, the guy who would you know, yell at Eddie Murphy for cursing and everything else. But you know, Hollywood and the

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Chuck Well, and here we go with the second hour.

And yes, as they said in the chat room, it may be part of the dummy load, but listen, this is analysis of what you're seeing presented to you for a reason. Okay, I am explaining to you the grand distraction. Think about it that way. Tonight, my guest Ed Opperman, who is a private investigator, radio show host, a writer, interesting guy in his own right, with quite an interesting

It's just an interesting case of networking.

And I just enjoy having these conversations with you, and it's great to bring him out on the air.

Now.

We were talking about the Cosby case a bit, and I did cut you off at the end of the last hour because well, honestly, I wanted you to get to it in one fell swoop, because this is one of those fascinating cases, and I think it's worthy of discussion because after all, this to me, you know, smacks of something that is being done for a reason. That everything is played up in the media for rec and

And I think it's an interesting study in that way alone.

But I do want to get to your viewpoint on it, because we were talking about we talked about a couple other things off the air, but hey, let's continue on with the Cosby discussion and see where we go from there.

Okay, Now, I come to this, like I said, from a different point of view, because when I look at the Cosby case, I'm like saying, Hey, how come I'm not involved in this case. I'm going No one hired me to work in this case because I know everyone Marty Singer was on the other side of a couple of cases I was in. Who was a Cosby's lawyer who was one of the toughest LA lawyers out there.

So you know, it's not crazy statement for me to say that there were a lot of these later on, you know, bandwagon jumpers of sorts who seek out their fifteen minutes or seek out to try and you know, grab a quick settlement out of something because something else has arisen and they might have been in proximity to somebody, or they might be able to present the appearance of being in proximity to somebody to gain in some way.

That's not a crazy idea.

No, absolutely not.

No.

There's plenty of gold diggers and people you know, you know, trying to make a fast buck artist that come along and try and insert themselves into the story. But like I said, everyone who's dealing with these cases, we're used to this kind of stuff. The reason why there's fifteen women in the Tiger Woods case is because of Ed Opperman. That was my job. I'm the one who came up with fifteen and maybe it was only fourteen. Couple got there, okay, but we had enough, you know that we could insert

You know the idea that this kid was, you know, the way it was presented the media again, you know, sort of an inno kid had been you know, part of Cosby's act. So we were familiar with the name Ennis.

Right right now. Now, the way we saw it in the news was that Annis Consby was driving his car, he got a flat, some Russian mobster guy pulls up behind him and gets out and kills him. And at the same time, Annis Consby had called his girlfriend, who also had connections to Russian mob and she shows up behind us and sees this and it's dead in the street, and she calls the cops because already begin with it. But then a couple of days later, Bill Cosby has

Right, they'll turn around and put a This is the truth, by the way, and I know this not.

I don't want to explain why I know this, but let me just say that I can verify personally that what will happen is somebody will play something like a razorblade or something like that in the track of a tire and it won't go flat right away. But as you run your car down the road a couple miles and if somebody were to follow behind you, let's just say, what happens is your tire winds up going flat and now they have the opportunity to either rob you, kill you.

Let's just say, right, it's not a rocket science, it's not reinventing the wheel. This is something that's done right. So now I read about this the National Choir that this woman. Jewel Starr says, Hey, this might have happened this way, right, So I says, oh, man, I want to talk to her. Let me get a her. It turns out she lives off the grid, her and her husband.

Okay, So I'm.

Talking to her now. I had her on the show for like four hours. Then at the National Choir contacted the Russian hitman. Let's call him right in prison, and he confessed. He says, yeah, I did, I regret doing this murder. But they asked him about his motivations and who hired him to do it and was Cosby behind it, and he declined to talk about that at all.

Yeah.

Yeah, So it was a lot of weird stuff where it suddenly because and her theory is is that he was siding with the daughter who had been getting payments her whole life, okay, and when she stopped getting payments for cons because she dropped out of school, and then she said, okay, I want to lump some payment. So instead of hiring a lawyer, she hired some guy who was like an agent character hustler, who went in and

Right again.

Not another situation that's unusual where there are these guys who basically operate as facilitators in a lot of these situations. Uh, quite often they get involved when you got somebody who's like a high profile personality and they've got you know, some illegitimate kid, or they've got you know, some disgruntled former employee or somebody that they you know, were involved

I mean again, not something that's out of the norm really.

So yeah, and and and I can tell you man, uh that's that's and sometimes that's been me. Okay, I've been the I was gonna say, they hire pis to do this kind of work all the time. I would get a call at five o'clock in the morning, Eddie, you gotta pick up this girl, take it down to get a polygraph because she's pregnant with so and so's baby. We got to get this on record because you know,

So it's like they give you a.

Basic retainer and you got to work within that budget otherwise you're losing money.

So right, it's everyone's different. Sometimes you gotta cut at the end and stuff like that, or you get some kind of publicity out of it. Uh, like all these cases that I taught talk about the Tiger Woods, and it's because the deal was in the beginning was I was going to get a press release at the end. So I don't talk about cases when clients don't want me to talk about it. I only I can tell this sum I can talk about because that was the deal and they're the ones promoting it really more than

And that's why too.

You don't see Gloria Already and Lisa Bloom and people like that handling every single client right right by the time you get where Gloria already is doing a press conference, it's because she couldn't make a deal, She couldn't get paid, they couldn't make a settlement. Now she's gone and done the press conference, so we know about fifty. There could be another hundred who got settlements that we don't know about.

Well, that's the other thing, because there would be a non disclosure clause to any of those settlements, probably, so there could be a limitless amount of people that were involved that haven't come forward yet because that was part of the deal.

Yeah, right.

And how they do that is they give you an annuity so that you get payments a little bit each year. And as long as that way, you can't just get your money and screw them anyway, that's why. But they get screwed anyway. It's real shame some of these young women and these clients. They get screwed anyway because they get the annuity. But then the lawyer wants a big chunk at the beginning so that they wind up with problems.

Yeah.

Well that's the other thing, because they're the oneers who collected the money, and meanwhile the lawyer's seen as an expense.

And yeah, it becomes a whole thing.

But it's an interesting case and it does speak to this entire excuse me for saying, but underbelly of a sort of business that goes on, which sad to say or not sad to say. Actually, I'm kind of happy to say you're part of it, because you really understand how a lot of these things really work.

And one of the reasons why I got involved with alternative media is because I wanted to tell people about them, because I have an insight to how the media works. And I was involved with a big giant case with the Sarah Palin and Todd Palin that wound up a part of a Congressional investigation against the Secret Service, and it's part of congression investigation to congressional hearings, and I've seen how things work behind the scenes and how things

See that tells you something right there, because I guarantee you that would have dug deeper into her, they would have found all kinds of weird stuff. Uh, you know, would have gone way beyond Gee, they got expensive clothes during.

The campaign, you know what I mean, there's no way. Yeah, oh no, the Palin family up there in a oh boy, I forget the name of a little town because the first town she was mayor of was like five hundred people. Is a tiny little town, you know, Wabashah or something, right or something like that. Wasscilla, Wasscilla.

There you go.

And that's one of the things if you watch that movie that Nick Boomfield did about that, he wanted to do a story that they were right wing Christians, but that's not what they were at all. Man. These guys had a weekly poker game going on up there. Uh, these were really this is a wild bunch. I'm a wild guy. This is a wild bunch, man, you know.

Uh.

And but he did a different kind of a story even though he knew what what the real facts were. In my opinion, h so so, so that's the whole thing. And I wanted to get that out and tell people, Hey, this is what's really going on behind the scenes that you don't hear about in the major news. And that's how I got involved in alternative media.

Right right, And you know, it's uh, it's differently, and I'm telling you, every time you do one of these shows, it's really fascinating because you do provide us with an insight, and you know, has anybody tried to sue you over any of these shows?

Now, I've had some threats different kinds of threats to the show about the murder of Tupac Shakor, and I got some threats on that one.

My god, oh man, listen you you you now struck a nerve with me because I would love to talk to you about that before we do.

Though, anybody wants to call in.

I know I put it out on social media, but I want to tell you guys, the phone lines are open at two point eight three three nine eight five two five, and it's endless really what you could ask ed about but or whatever you want to interject into this conversation.

I know it's a little unusual for what.

I usually cover on the show, but man, I'm telling you, this is an absolute dissection of the way the mainstream media winds up interpreting a lot of the realities. That's why I have ed on by the way, in case you guys don't understand, because it's sort of like you know, usually chunk you talk about very serious and this is very serious too, because this is all about the deception that is put in front of you. You know, the rest of the story. Remember there used to be a

You're allowed to abuse the host, not the guest. That's it.

I do want to say though, because the last time I was on your show, a lot of people were saying, too, hey, you know, this guy is not very serious, and I really do have a serious background. I've worked I'm death penalty qualified. I'm a digital friendsic investigator have presented the evidence in death penalty trials Before Congress, I was involved in a congressional investigation and two congressional hearings involving the US Secret Service. So I'm not a fly by night guy.

Yeah, well, you know, for people who might have forgotten, or for people who aren't from the Northeast, why don't you give a quick explanation of what the Pizza Connection was.

Pizza connected, very interesting pizza connection cases. These guys were importing heroin and they were doing it through the chain of pizzerias across the country and by and my job in that case originally was is I was working at a pi's office in Brooklyn, and our job was to listen to the FBI recordings and give our own transcript of what we heard, so the FBI would say Hey, we're gonna break some egg we're gonna break some legs,

So here I am.

Listening to these tapes and I'm saying, yeah, is that my cousin? And we found out later on I got Christmas dinner that it was my cousin was working at one of these Pizza Connection pizzerias.

Uh.

So it was a huge trial. There's a bunch of convictions. Rudy Giuliani was the prosecutor. That's the first time I came across from Rudy Giuliani. And when I was a kid later on because he was involved with Boat Deal and Trump and all those guys later on too, So I met him later on under more friendly circumstances. But that's the first time in my contact with Rudy Commission Commission front was the organized crime Paul Costelano and Semitable Ravana and I N. L O. Della Croutche, all those guys.

Long long before the days he came to national prominence, you know, just repetitively screeching at US nine to eleven, nine to eleven, nine to eleven, you know, while he was allegedly running for president, long before that. We're talking about when before he was even mayor. Actually they all way before. Yeah, he was the prosecutor for the Northern District. So yeah, you know, I had a long I'll tell you. You know.

A funny thing too, is one of the companies I had worked for was Action Research, which was the company that they got in trouble. Actually they got in trouble for it because they were the ones when HP was trying to oust Carly Fierini out of her position at HP. They were getting her phone records and stuff like that. They had hired Action Research to get all her phone records and a lot of stuff like that to get I guess blackmail, dirt on I guess what they were trying to do to get her out.

Right, right, right, that's an interesting story too. But no, the pizza connection, you know, it was it was about, yes, smuggling heroin, but it was really strange because the way they were doing it was through these pizzerias, and in a lot of cases the pizzerias weren't even making pizza.

It was some funny stuff you know, that was going on. In some cases you.

Had you had home delivery, you had to call up and make a special request, right, I mean it was it was quite the operation, actually.

But you want to know what to Also, on the other hand, there were some guys that got brought up in that who were just innocent pizzerio own franchises of these pizzerias.

Yeah, that was the other thing.

I mean, there was a bunch of guys who were pizza delivery people that you know, we're getting you know, ten bucks a day and all the tips that could you know.

They could squeeze out of people and they.

Got caught up in it as well, completely you know, unaware they were caught up in heroin distribution and everything else.

It was a massive, massive thing.

Yeah, I hear you, man, And I'm sure a lot of guys walked on that. It's interesting. So I was still going to a j Weberman because I remember it back in the eighties hearing about a case. It was either Gorpadal or Norman Mayle or one of these big writers in New York City who was involved in a multi hundred pound hashish deal in New York City and they let him go and he said the reason was is because he was working on a story for a book and they did the charged him on.

Uh yeah, well maybe maybe.

I mean, you never New York justice has been so strange. It's it's nothing like what you see in Los Angeles. Los Angeles to me is like one of the most corrupt, uh you know, local law enforcement slash justice systems you see across across the country. It's like the exemplar of what's wrong everywhere else. But New York is like this weird, sort of quirky kind of handshaking, a wink kind of deals being made all the time. Uh. And and and that's the way it is. It's sort of like a

Sorry, I just wanted to throw that in there. I just think that he busted every family except for one.

Well, there you go, there's the caveat right, there's one family that didn't seem to really catch it from the Giuliani regime.

Which one was that?

Again?

It the one with the chin all right? Shut down all the all the strip clubs in New York except the ones that there were some that they weren't allowed to stay open. But all of those guys shut down. What a character that guy was?

Man, oh Gigante or Rudy, which one or both?

Rudy was when I was a kid, because the first time I ran into Rudy Johanna, I was like nineteen years old, you know, and it was an arrogant, arrogant guy, you know, just because you know, you deal with attorneys and prosecutors and stuff like that. Everybody's kind of friendly, you get along. But this guy was just always like a hard case man from the first time I ever met him, a.

Hard case with a list. That was a strange thing about him too.

He kind of got rid of it later on, but I remember when he still had that affect to him when he spoke and he had.

Really bad comb over, you know, I remem Yeah, there was a press conference, a news conference out outside in the wind, and it was like a garage door, like like I heard of a car was up for the wind there, you know.

God oh man, Yeah, that's true. He was kind of funny.

I was amazed that he made it to be mayor interesting thing about him is when he was he used to make these weird late night trips around the city, like just go out for a ride, you know, and go check things out.

I always found that really weird about him.

Yeah, it was really weird too that he had that girlfriend that was like a newscast or something like that. And then he he got into a fight with his wife and he went out onto Gracing mansion outside the gates and he had to held a news conference and says I'm getting divorced, and his wife like barely knew when he had to remove from the house. I had a very bizarre guy man all the way around. Yeah, how did he get that far? You wonder, you know, someone like did he get that far?

Well? You know, then again if you only uh, if you ignore certain people, I mean, it might help all right anyway. Uh, it's one of those things where he was put into a position and then disposed of, you know, because he was never gonna I contend that no Italian.

I believe you'll see a female president.

You'll see a a an openly homosexual president before you'll see an Italian president in this country, believe.

It or not.

That's maybe that's just my own personal contention, because no matter what, one of the things that comes along with, you know, having a vowel at the end of your name is mob connection.

Uh it's implied, if not, you know, insinuated.

So Cuomo at his son's man.

Yeah, that's why I always crack up when somebody passes me a clip of what is it Andy Cuomo giving you the news? You know, this guy's giving you the news, and and and meanwhile well, no, it's Chris Cuomo that gives you the news. Andy Clomo is the governor, right, And and remember there was the annoying kid that used to bother his father at press conferences. Right.

It's kind of funny to me anyway.

Sorry, but no, to get back to it, though, I mean, it's an interesting kind of a case. When you take a look at at how the criminal justice system functioned in New York and how it still functions to this day, you know, it's pretty interesting.

You don't have the same kind of character as you used to.

Though. One thing I give to Rudy is that he was definitely again an entertaining guy. You know what I have to leaving New York and now I deal with the lawyers and prosecutors and police departments all over the country. I miss it. You know, in New York City, you had a certain kind of because the lawyers in New York City kind of kept each other in check, you know, and you had to really rise to the top of

You had to have, you know, some kind of clout, you had to have, you know, well, to function in New York or anywhere in the Tri state area.

You had to have connections, because that's.

Really what it was about.

You know, Like when I went into courtroom situations and I was dealing with somebody who had been you know, one of the governor's lawyers at some point or whatever, you knew that this was a guy who already had the deck stacked in his favor.

This kind of thing, you know, yeah, right, because he helped get the judge elected. Exactly when I was twenty five years old, I had we had a case and me and one of both degals guys, there was an affidavit that we knew was forged. They had taken an added paragraphs in between the signature page and the front page. And so we went in and well interviewed the woman who signed the affidave and we got on tape. You know, I never done them a sinuce in the a sinus.

You know?

And now I know these things do happen. It happens all of this country.

Oh right, I mean I'll give you a quick example.

You know Scott Enyard, who took photographs the night Bobby Kennedy was killed, right, the LA police ended up.

You're familiar with him, right, sure?

Yeah, So interestingly, you know, they tell him come back in twenty five years and come get your pictures, and he doesn't think anything of it.

That's what he does.

When he shows back up and you know, demands to have his pictures, they tell him they were destroyed. Then they tell him they found something. Then they hire a courier to deliver it, you know, to the court where the case is being heard, because he's now suing you know, Los Angeles County, right, And the courier allegedly makes a stop somewhere and gets you know, robbed on the way to bringing evidence to the court, and therefore his pictures are you know, completely gone.

That's the end of it.

No, Well, there was a fire, there's a flood, you know, you know whatever. Every other document in their office is fine, but there's a fire that one file you're looking for

All right, I know about that film that that that's someone that that had all these interesting photographs which sort of changed the story a bit. When you take a look at where Oswald's supposed to have been during certain time period, it's and it's interesting. A lot of times you can't get hold of this evidence and Foyer requests have gone so far at this point. But I think the more, the more we can yank out of their hands.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, and we got to keep the pressure of no matter what. Absolutely so yeah, no, and you do have a lot of a serious you know, uh uh mona fides. Let's just say as as somebody who is an investigator, I mean, you're you're definitely not a joke.

And you still do that.

By the way, Uh, people can hire you as a private investigator. Still can't think?

Oh yeah, you can always email me at the Opperman Investigations at gmail dot com. I got a website called email revealer dot com. You can go online in place in order I invented it search where you can if you give me your boyfriend's email address for your girlfriends, I could trace that back to online dating websites and catch them and cheating online. So I was doing this way before the whole thing, this big scandal with Ashley Madison,

You see a bunch of things actually that you've been involved in, you know, talk talk to me a little bit about the Tupac feel though, because that has always fascinated me.

You know, It's it's one of those deals where, you know, it seemed.

As though because both both the murders of him and and Chris Wallace, you know, Big Small's uh really were just really bizarre again, another one of these crazy circumstances where uh, you know, it was a sign of the times. I mean, people forget about the East Coast, West Coast rap beefs and all that nowadays.

But at the same time, it seemed as though there was a lot more to it.

There was h there was definitely like uh and and there always has been this effort to destroy artists who are saying things that are again counterintuitive to the establishment. So, I mean, I'm kind of attracted to that story, but I've never known exactly what to make of it, even though I've had possession of the uh, you know, the audio from the from the all Time and all that kind of stuff in the past. You know, it's it's one of those things I've never been able to put together.

Well, you know, the guy the guest on that is John Potash, who wrote the book The FBI War on Tupac. M hm. You know Tupac, his whole history, you know, did you know that this guy was His family was Black Panther Party Royalty. His father is Motulla Shakur, who was a part of the New African, the Republican New Africa, and I actually met him by coincidence because he used to come up to w BAI back in the seventies.

Oh boy, yeah, so what happened there?

Because I know Sugar is definitely not the kind of guy who likes who's going to sit still or his people aren't going to sit still, I should say when you.

Say something like that, But good, Yeah, it was his people.

And I actually ran into him once at his lawyer's office here in Las Vegas, because you know, we're both in Las Vegas, and so I you know, I shook hands with the guy who's years and years ago. But so I thought it was a good idea. Hey, you know what this everyone's talking about it right to discussion, and all of his buddies He never came to me himself and threatened my life, but everyone who knew him that was very unhappy with me. It's funny you mentioned

Yeah, no, it's okay. The listeners need to know. I know who he is.

I forget what I was talking to you. So he arrested Frank Sturgis and supposed these Jurgis confessed and when he when he what he calls a polygraph, Yeah, a thirty eight caliber polygraph test on Frank Sturgis. There, but talking about the French connection heroin robbery in New York City and in Staten Island and stuff like that, it's pretty well known who stole the French connection Heroin and then later on they went and they invested on a bunch of video stores in New York and then they

Because and that was a whole weird thing too.

It wasn't directly Blockbuster video, but what it became Blockbuster video.

Yeah, the guys we well, you know, I guess everybody knows that. But yeah, the guys who made all that money, you know, we had a great, big chain of video stores. So yeah, those are pretty much the only two times. And oh you know what, just recently, I had a big crazy thing with this this Hempstead satanic ritual abuse case in the UNA if.

Those are always dicey, because you know, there's a lot of strange things to go on with these satanic ritual abuse deals. And you know the satanic panic that we experienced in America, you know back in the early what was it, the late eighties, early nineties. I mean you recall that, uh, you know, at the height of it, Heraldo Rivera is doing a special on it, which was a complete joke, but not quite as bad as the al Capone special anyway, But now you know what I'm saying, Yeah.

Let me ask you about Heraldo Rivera. It always struck me. Heraldo Rivera. He left ABC because he did a story about the Marlon and Roe murder. Uh, and then they went to air it, and then he quit and he disappeared, and he came back a multi multi millionaire, owning a helicopter, owning an island in Puerto Rico, owning two newspapers on East coast, and it always struck me that some kind of deal was made with that guy.

Well, he was tiptoeing around a lot of interesting stories and things in the seventies, you know, most famously, and I've discussed this on my show several times. I mean on Good Night America is where is where the majority of the country got their first look at the Zabruta film and the Kennedy assassination, you know, And that was Roaldo Rivera hosting the show, right, you know, And he tiptoed around a lot of really interesting stories when he came back.

I would definitely say a deal was made. Not because he came up with all that money.

I don't know the circumstances there, you know, that would be the kind of thing that you could dig into it. But I don't know all the stories as to how that came about. But the fact that he comes back as first as a sort of an establishment joke, you know, not really covering anything serious, you know, sort of sorry to say, but half passing his way through a lot of very serious stories and stuff like that, and then winds up landing on places like Fox, you know, later

Yeah, because he had one of those afternoon's talk shows that was like Oprah and Phil Donahue, but but even more like more like Carnie you know, Oh yeah, who think that girl the one anyway?

What Sally Sally, Jesse Raphael who were talking about, like one.

Of those I'm trying to think of the other one that she was. She was in that movie Ricky Lake, Ricky Lake. There you go, man, Yeah, yeah, he had he had one of those kind of shows in the afternoon, you know, and now look at him.

Yeah, he did all of it based on the Phil Donahue kind of style, which Oprah picked up on later, which was the big audience you know, hey, let's take questions from the audience. Who's sitting right here again, completely juxtaposed to the likes of a Morton Downey junior here who who I'm sorry that they're that guy was quite.

Entertaining, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that was thrilling, you know, TV, you know channel mind, you know, in the middle of the night, you know, and that's exactly.

Yeah.

But anyway, like like you were saying, it is weird to watch him come back out though in a completely different fashion. Uh you know again no longer addressing the real sort of uh uh rough edges of investigative journalism.

It was all gone, Yeah, he's supporting Trump. What does that tell you? I know, yeah, it's just mind blowing, you know. But on the other hand, I'll tell you this, you know, because I know like a lot of guys from court, TV and stuff, you know, for years, and uh, when you talk to them, like they believe like a lot of people say, well, all these guys, you know, they are in on it. They're in on the big secret. They're all part of the act, the crisis actors or whatever.

So they really believe it with a straight face.

Yeah, I'm always dumbfounded by people like that because I run into him on occasion, you know, in a grocery store or something like that, and they talk about, you know, Obama's a Muslim, and I'm afraid because, you know, because he supports the guys who you know, hit us on nine to eleven, and he's not going to stop the next attack. And I was listening to that for years.

I'm sorry, I can't go with it.

Guys.

It's it's just implausible to me.

Well, everybody I've ever talked to, that's mech Obama that would know says he says CIA creation, which is what I believe.

Oh I believe that myself. You know.

You take a look again, take a look at his parents. But step aside from that, I mean, he was perfectly well packaged. He was sold to us exactly like they would sell us a Manchurian candidate of sorts, you know, hope and change.

Remember that, yea, and his paperwork sucks too, you know, and.

A community organizer of all things a sends to become the president of the United States. I'm sorry, you know if that doesn't speak to the fact that that office has become quite the joke.

What can I say?

Well, I know what you're saying, and I've said that all along myself. I've been there, had the same kind of attitude, it didn't matter who was in there. But talking recently to some sources, I do believe that Obama has been making policy, at least as far as our

But he believes that he could run for president here and we would win. I you know, I don't know about that. I think there's way too much of an underpinning. And you know what I think about this when I when I look at and listen to Bernie Sanders. Uh, you know the fact that he has that Jackie Mason esque cadence to his speech A little bit, you know, makes me think that there is definitely a hardcore base in this country that they wouldn't buy it if this guy even stole the election.

You know, I do know.

But but by nett Yeah, who I meant that. Not that I believe he would win, but Netton, now, who believes he would win. He's convinced that he would win. Here. And I know what you're saying. There is that kind of races and that kind of bigotry against the you know, Bernie, he's a Jew, you know. Yeah, And uh, you know, it's a good question.

I don't know. Well, I'll tell you this.

You know, we're we're running a long time, and we're almost almost done here. And I give you, I give you my my estimation of what's going on with Trump. I think he's a lightning rod. I think he's been put into place to keep everybody busy. Uh, you know, the the clown before the elephants and the jackasses are presented for the children to pet as they go around the ring.

Uh, That's what I think has happened here. And I really think that eventually we're going.

To be confronted with uh, you know, possibly not Clinton, because she's put such a bad taste in the mouth of the majority of the American public and continues to do so with their elitist attitude, which is brazen I

And Seltzer bottle spray. Uh, that's really what I see here, and wondering how you see it. That's a possibility, okay, and it's a very serious possibility. And I think even Ron Paul was kind of to rub it in our face to say, hey, look, man, he won every debate. You all want him, We're not gonna let you have him.

You know, his brother or whatever wound up and broiled in that uh, you know, in that sex scandal. So I mean, I think that was meant to get ahead of that.

Not sure I agree with him with that, tim you know, but but I think they wanted they want us to lose faith, faith in institutions. And just how they would put a guy named Obama, you know, who's you know, questionable background, whose name rhyme's with Osama bin laden public I made number one. But I don't think that's an accident in our coincidence either. But call me Charlie Brown, okay, and you can be Lucy, and I'm gonna run up

Man.

But I think listen, I got a kid right now is very optimistic. This is our first election, and she's she's an idealistic right now. She thinks this is gonna happen. And I'm catching that kind of momentum and that kind of attitude. Now, Bernie saying some stuff. He's saying the right stuff at the rallies, you know. And and if not okay. If it all is all bred and surfaces, it's all a big act. It's all a big game.

And uh again, guys, Operamanreport dot com, uh, you know, and other places. I know you could catch some of the podcasts on Spreaker. I was a guest on your show recently. We talked about the jfk assassination. But believe me, uh Ed covers all the types of subjects that we talked about tonight, plus a whole lot of serious stuff on his shows.

And uh, you know, tell people other places they can find it. Oh, on Friday nights live it's on the Awake Radio Network Awake Radio dot US, Awake Radio dot UK, PSN Radio on Friday nights, then throughout the week as we played every day on the late night in the Midlands plays me on Tuesdays. Para X Radio plans on Saturday night seven pm, so it's easy to find, you know.

Yeah, at the same time slot I have.

But yeah, you know, I know what, I wouldn't care how many listeners I lost you, man, because I think that's you got a great show and you're doing great stuff. And I love a guy that knows uh everything off the top of his head, you know. And I was growing you on JFK obscure stuff a lot of people think would be obscure, uh, And I really enjoyed that show burnt very much.

Man.

People should look for it on speak or YouTube. It's up on YouTube, you know. Oh cool, I didn't know what's up on YouTube. Well, you know, I appreciate it, man, and any time you want me, I will definitely show up. Ed Opperman was my guest tonight, guys, and I appreciate all of you who tuned in.

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