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That's how it cools, Letty knows. And this is episode one of what we are going to call O'celli and the Greek on American Freedom Radio. We are broadcasting live on American Freedom Radio dot com. And I am your host, Chuck o'celli. But I am not the main feature of this particular show, as I am on my own the o'celly Effect, which is also heard on American Freedom Radio. Now you might notice I'm in a slightly different mood,

gotta give it a different sound when we're doing a different show. And this is episode one, So you're very lucky to be here today, whoever you may be listening now, it is very hard to describe the Greek.

It is very hard to describe Greek speak, to be honest with you, But you can speak to the Greek if you decide, if you dare, And of course the call in number is two one eight three, three nine eight five two five two one eight three three nine eight five two five, And other than that, I don't have a whole lot much more to say this evening. It is midnight Eastern time as we speak, and as the

Greek is about to speak. So how are you doing to night doing great Chuck is a show number one together here and let's get this road on the show that we can do as well. Okay, mental gin h, here it comes. So here's the thing, Greek. It is interesting to hear you on my show, of course, and I do enjoy it, and I'm very grateful that you have joined me on my shows. But this will be a little different because I'm really going to just get the hell out of

your way most of the time, just as the listener knows. And I'm not tired. I'm just being subdued purposely. Well yeah, that's one way to look at it. But I think the listeners and the audience and we might appreciate, you know, bouncing things between us. It's good to have two people to discuss these things. I believe that having a show where we can repeatedly come on every week instead of being a guest, allows us to have a little more of an open air discussion and instead of limiting it.

And I do appreciate American Freedom Radio and you for putting in the time so I could have time on the air. Right Well, I'll tell you what I'm going to do here is and we discussed none of this beforehand. We just sort of put this together for you with a general idea. So here's the deal. I believe that we should begin with what really attracted me to having you as a guest in the first place, and that is the very

basic observation that you're only here to take notes. Oh yeah, Well, the reason why I say that is because there's this mentality where you have to be part of a group that believes in something right. If it's either sports or religion or politics. There's this groupthink and group act action, and there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is that most of these actions and the

group think is not fit and proper or even lawful. As you as one can see, if you sum up basically what's going on, you could see that humanity is in a terminal condition at this point. And it's very gradual, of course, but things cannot go on the way they are, no

matter how gradually they are descending or degrading. And there is there is a time that with all terminal things, there's something called an ending and giving details, perhaps giving a little foreshadow to discussing the facts, discussing things objectively, and you've got to have good notes to do that. So, going back to the I'm just here taking notes. I mean, gosh, can you be a part of any group? I mean, look at what's going on. Well, let's begin with sort of giving people an idea of what you

mean by fit, proper and law. After all, these words are sort of subject to interpretation, right, Well, yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up. You know, the word interpretation means to interpret precisely and concisely, and there's only really one interpretation of a matter. There are many opinions on the matter, and many stories and many reports that can be given.

To actually interpret something is quite a task, but if it's going to be branded as an interpretation, it has to be done accurately and with precision. And unfortunately, you know, when you look at all the subjects that people are engaged, and you know, from from politics to science, to religion to whatever subject, there's thousands of subjects that mankind has engaged and where

they have quote unquote experts. You know, these people that are constantly learning more and more about less and less, and the reliance on these the revival of these new religions, or actually revival of ancient religions considered new things like science. You know, it's really scientism, and anything that comes out of that scientism seems to be scienticulous. So so kind of that's the coin all

of our heaviside. So we look at the religious aspects, you know, we look at the financial we look at all of these things, and they're all debased. You you look at what they're supposed to be based on, and and they're not. It seems to be this wave of just yeah, degradation that's moving through. Right, So your observation is essentially that nothing has been created anew here. There is simply the regurgitation and debasement of what already

existed. Yeah, in name only. What they're doing is the core of what is being revived is actual, but what it's being called is something different. Like when you look at political circles, what they discuss as being rights

are not rights at all. Right, Whenever they talk about certain rights, if you look at a certain amount of time, the freedoms that were enjoyed before those things were coined are taken away, typically by a centralized power of some sort, whether it's a corporate or public or private or government or whatever. Because a lot of people seem to forget how the all governments, as we discussed once before, I have a patron deity, and people are ignoring

these things. You know, there's a certain hierarchy. They'd rather talk about what color the stripes on the flag are as a gold fringe, but they've never discussed the patron god that's behind them. You know. We look at the the aspects of what could be called introduction to state prison or public school or even that Harvard University. It's just an introduction to state prison, you see. So there's not it's very difficult for people to break out of the

subjectivity and go into the objectivity. So I think we'll be able to enjoy that we have two hours, perhaps once a week to look at the objective side of things, you know, right. And the oddity here is that you are, in a strange way in agreement with those who would say that we are under a system now where there are privileges which have been bestowed and

then of course eroded upon most of the population. But at the same time those privileges are not understood because the true governing mechanism that would bestow said privileges is completely obscured. It's obscured, and it's obscured, and yet it's not. It's it's it's it's actually quite clear, but it seems obscured on its face. An example of the obscurity is look at how the media controls the

mindset week by week. There seems to be a story every week that dominates, right, or you know, within a certain season, right, like an election season, right or whatever. There's this very narrow view. You know, it's like looking at the ground when you're walking, you know, instead of looking ahead or up. So when we look at that, they said, with the privilege, there's this concept of freedom, which is only

a concept. It's you know, that's this. This might air philosophical to people, but just to get down to the nuts and bolts, Earth is a violent place. And anyone who's ever watched any kind of an animal documentary, national geographic, or what have you. I grew up with mutual of Omaha sponsoring some Wild Kingdom show. All of these natural environments are full of lions eating zebras, and frogs eating flies, and big fish eating smaller fish.

Right. So the earth in general is a violent place. So you know, that's not a yeah, that's not a philosophical point at all. That's a reality. Even if you have lived among a human population excluding the animal kingdom, one must understand that unless you're cloistered in some way, you must have experienced the violence, which is indicative of the human species as well.

Right right, Yeah, And the interesting part is we were the stewards of all of this to m bestowed with a certain power over these natural mechanisms or natural things in place, and we've abandoned that post. Right. So that's another you know, part of the saga of explaining to people what their position is. Uh. And they could see it very simply once they if they if they just listen, the the idea of the unknown has really become

something that they've worshiped like an abyss. And there's been a disregard and almost a hatred for knowledge objectively, you know, not by saying this guy's smart, let's listen to them, or this guy's dumb, let's not you know, or you're smarter or you're more intelligent, none of that. It's the the universality of of objectifying a situation is open to everyone because it's very simple.

So you know, we could I was always thinking about if if a show were to be done looking at the standard model, you know, from back in the days when radio these to sell soap, and then it moved on to you know, this subliminal seduction stuff of modern advertising, to just

annoying ridiculousness that fits the mindset of the people. Right, And the days of selling soap actually are codified or still exist, I should say they're still echoed through the idea that they still call these things soap operas on television because literally that was their route where they came from in the first place. Yeah, you know, they they had a story to tell for women before women's rights were able to stay at home all day and raise children, right,

and yeah, so that was that was that back then. Now it's uh, you know, now it's it's the idea of freedom or things are free and they're not. I believe you wrote an article on your blog about the free media recently and how it's not really free and the level of dedication that's being given now. A lot of people will say when you listen to what's going on, let's say on the on the on the in the media.

Let's when we say the media, we're talking about the internet, radio as as we're speaking on they'll they'll notice that everyone is pretty much saying the same thing unless they have a guest that is a specialist in a certain field or as a witness or giving testimony to their specific experiences or level of expertise. But it's all very very similar. A lot of people are just dedicating their time as yourself, as the people behind the station. Uh and and there's

just you know, there's what they call there are bills to pay. Even though it's a credit based in economy, there there's an influx of revenue that's required. And I believe when you wrote that article on Zen in the Car, I believe o'celly, Yeah, that was very unique. Is probably the

first one I've ever seen on the internet like that. Well. Yeah, and of course you bring up a very interesting idea here that there is a credit based economy, and people would immediately who are accustomed to listening to these types of shows say that, no, we're in a debt based situation. But actually it's not true. We have been sort of conned into believing that everything is in a debt based system. You can't you can't have debt when

it's credit based. Now if you have a substance based economy, you can offer credit as under term. But you know, there's this the patriot movement, and there's a lot of because of the Internet, a lot of spread of disinformation. It's very simple how it works. Money was taking away and the ques in the nineteen thirties pretty much in most of the Western societies, and they said, well, how are people going to function? Oh,

that's fine. The government will set up a line of credit for each individual, and it's established with the birth certificate. The birth certificate creates a limited liability agreement that because there's no money, you don't have to revolt. We give you a credit line. But these critters, a particular species known as attorneys or the quote unquote legal department, come out with plausible deniability and ignore the fact that there is no money and tell you that you have debt.

They tell you there is such thing as alone. They tell you that's there's such thing as money. So you know, Henry Ford said, you know, if people found out how banking work, that'd be blood in the streets within a day. And it's the thing that I hear all the time is the Federal Reserve. The problem the government No, it's not the No one in those systems is blocking anyone from accessing their line of credit. It's the

attorneys that are doing it. It's the bar association essentially, which has nothing to do with law because it's based on the justice system, which is the revival of the ancient goddess religion. So there's a mouthful right there. Well right, And just to give people an idea, what would you say they could reference to understand the basic concept behind the ancient goddess for justice? Oh man, The thing is about you know, I call the Internet, you

know zeros and ones. It's the telegraph, you know, click click, click click, you know, it's either hand or you know. That's how the switches on the semiconductors work. They rely on the Internet. And the thing about the Internet is that it's subject to a human input or input. No one's input it on the Internet. It's probably not on it. You're not going to find very much about the goddess religion being revived on the Internet.

What you will find if you spell it under justice ya Roman goddess, you will find that basically it's a revival of the Greek goddess decay or the which is also the revival of Mat or parallel or Mat which is Egyptian, and then that ran parallel with several Babylonian goddess religions, which are going to be very difficult to look up on the internet. They have not been put

on there. A good place for anyone to go is a good university library and look at the Ancient Cultures section, not necessarily history, but defined under ancient cultures, particularly calde in Hebrew culture, which would cover the Babylonian Persian. You know, the entire area from from the eastern part to the western part of the Lavant. It's going to be very interesting, but it's very clear to see how it's a revival. The goddess religions are being revived.

You know, we're talking about the goddess religions that were predominant on the Earth four or five thousand years ago. Well, in the manipulation factor to the Internet is something that has always fascinated me because in an instant you can edit the information it's not immortalized in any way, and then when it does become seemingly immortalized, it's easily erased, eradicated, or altered. So when one

does a search for the root of justice. Let's just say you might be confronted with the concept that the Roman emperor Justinian had introduced this concept into the modern era, right, which is a misdirection. Justinian was in fact, more than likely named after the lineage of you know, naming one after particular entities that had influenced things like that, like you would see in any society.

So Justinian was not the originator of this concept in any way, although he has given credit for what I believe they term they call it coined as moral law right, right, which is again based on the ancient goddess religion. And just to sum it up, it's a very cruel religion. It's it's a very uh, it's based on cruelty and secret, secret practices. Right, these things are. I haven't gone into depth to study the details

because just introducing the concept is just massive on its own. So and an example of this though would be the seemingly overabundance of punishment, like the precept of punishing one to avoid a criminal act. This kind of concept sort of

runs through it though. Right then you see the god the ancient goddess religions were branched out into the concept of creation also, and some of the teachings were that man mankind was not male and female and when mankind was in a godlike state according to them, So the punishment is put on the subject if they're male or female, or man or woman. It's so so it really

includes anyone. It's cruel towards both women and men, you know. And there's again the revival of this religion is very interesting because these things are put in a positive light. They how many times have you heard the Goddess in you right? Or the divine feminine? Now, this has nothing to do with feminine being bad. That is just they're there's they're just you know,

blazing the trail to open the mind to accept this these things. Once the state of this revival becomes no pun intended known because it will be more known, there'll be more you know, how many times have you heard Mother Earth? You know, all of these things that that are trying to put what's going to be coming in the future in a more acceptable light, just kind

of like women's rights was in the sixties, right. Well, in some of the groundwork I think is being laid as as we speak, as things devolve, because an androgynous sort of fixture in the consciousness has become acceptable regarding one's own physicality. You know, the concept of you can wake up one day and determine that you're female even though you are quite physically and irrevocably in a male body. This kind of thing being promoted as it has been seems

to be part of that very same agenda. Absolutely, you know, the agenda is massive, and it's been going on for quite a while. But with the religion of scientism or science, you know, and the the the upping of the what they call the lead system, which is basically they are the priests of the justice goddess. The scientists are the priests of another aspect of it. Because the legal and these scientific systems work together with the political

system and the medical system. The concept of promoting children being born outside of the body, the concept of cloning, the concept of promoting male with male union, female with female union. And also you know when I say male with male and female with female, that's usually those terms are reserved for farm animals. There are men and men and women and women. Right. We notice a lot of times, you know, police are looking for someone,

We're looking for a male right, or is he male or female? Or in popular culture, I gotta find myself a female, right, Yeah, there are men and women that those terms are no longer used. You see, you're just material now. The the the promotion of everything that you see in contemporary culture was trending politically, scientifically, medically and all. This is

a part of the goddess religion, you know. Well, and this concept again is also spread through things like and and here's here's the odd part, right, Uh, you have, yes, the union of mail and mail, and the union of female and female and of course, like you said, men and women, these things are sort of lost because Okay, here's one of the justifications that's often given, uh that in the animal kingdom homosexuality exists, so therefore it's natural because we are equated to the animal kingdom.

But I step back and I say to myself, well, that being the concept, then that also means that things like sex without well consent is also something present in the animal kingdom. Killing an animal another animal for invading your territory is also something if you were an animal, would be perfectly acceptable. If you're equating the human being to the animal kingdom, would it not be well, here's an interesting part. Uh, we're not animals. What's what's

from a cognitive sense, we're not. We share the same biological features internally, organs and things like that, you know, warm blooded cold blooded creatures may not, but we're not. Because we we are not. We don't have any any firmware or anything that's uh uh, we don't have an operating system that's pre downloaded like animals. Do you know if a dog was raised from when it was borne by a family of gorillas and you adopted that dog as an adult, it would still you know, chase a cat, barket,

you know, with squirrels and fetch a stick. You wouldn't know it was raised by gorillas, right, But would it be would it still maintain itself as a vegetarian? Do you think? Mmm? I don't think that gorillas are really strictly vegetarian. I don't think anything is strictly vegetarian really, you know, even you know a lot of the predator carnivores, by the way, I also consume grasses and fruits and berries and things like that.

You know. But the thing is, we're we're completely subject to external input, where animals are not that's why you know, we have schools and instruction and when they tell it, they didn't have this type of system before they everyone sat around the campfire and were told stories. Right, information was passed down, you know, the you know, how to make a how to work with materials, how to make a fire. All these things were passed down and taught where you know, you don't see you know, dogs having

a school, and you don't see birds having a school. You might see a school of fish, but that's in a different context. Yeah, so they don't. They're they're downloaded, fully fully pres a preloaded operating system. We don't have that, which is very interesting. It shows that there's an incompleteness. Here's the irony of of humans or a mankind. We tend to be in a superior position materialistically, but from being prepared from a natural sense,

where the least prepared. You know, you ever see when a when an antelope or a deer, or a fawn or a horse or a calf is being born, they can they're they're fully closed, right, and they're ready to go within a few hours. Oh yeah, see they can even walk, which human children cannot do for quite a while after they're born.

Yea, so we're extremely unique. The the the concept of again, the level of poverty mental poverty that exists on the planet today, because let's go back to being a global situation is astounding mentally, how humans or mankind have allowed themselves to be completely deceived about the most objective and the simplest things to understand. And I think over time we'll be able to perhaps bring these things

out. And one of the that's why one of the reasons I don't want to get into let's say we were speaking about the Goddess religion, right, I don't want to get into a lot of the specifics and the history because that tends to to dull people from from you know, really feeling obliged, you know, to study or take notes on what we're saying. Otherwise, you know, it's not something they could repeat in a conversation or walk away

with. I think keeping it really giving the information out in a way that just anyone could walk away and get it and and explain it from a very basic point of view. There's no reason to go into details. I think

that anyone that's interested can start researching it. And it's great that we brought up the concept of justice being a goddess religion, because ironically, if anyone wants to research, it's just a real piss poor body of information on what they call the Internet, you're going to have to find it in hard copy,

in an old it's these things called books. Right. Well, many, many people, yeah, many people have accused me of being a absolutely antiquated and ridiculous for asserting the idea that not all knowledge is in the interwebs. You know, it sounds like a cute statement, but that's what I was calling it for a while, and I've always said that real research is not simply confined to what is in the digital matrix, you know, the

digital matrix, the convenience. You know, I'd like to say they're not you know, people are deliberately called in a condescending way sheeple or cattle. They're not. They're now they're chickens because they're pecking at the keyboard and they're pecking at their devices. Right. It's it's if you just look at their behavior. You know, this is you know, the current situation with what

they call technology. But there's a the thing that you will find when you say things that are outside of the convention right is, you will find that there is a mankind has gotten to the position where they have a self loathing of learning, where we just describe that it is mandatory to learn. We're not. We don't have an operating system that's downloaded when we're created or being born or after we're born. Were the only species on the planet that must

engage in the transmittal of information, It has to be imparted. In fact, our very lives are partially dependent upon a psychosocial interaction. I mean from a physical standpoint, a sense which is not excited, a sense which is not engaged by the environment, can literally become atrophied, much like a muscle which has not been in use. In the human being. For instance, and says I've noted many many times newborn babies, if not exposed to light,

wind up blind. And also newborn babies which are not held often seemed to die. In fact, people as they age, although it's not as noticeable as the hunger for nourishment, people as they age have tend to have shorter lifespans if they are sequestered from the rest of society. In fact, yeah, the container needs to be massage needs to be touched, needs to be affected. You know, the body what we call the it's a container

and it's a very unique one. You know. The eventually will discuss maybe the anthropomorphic shape and how it is really universal and it is the ultimate expression from an energetic and material point of view, you know, and these things are when we go down this road, the best thing to do is explain them in a way where people don't have to chase down more data on it and walk away and they feel like they've got a pretty good roundabout idea,

what what was discussed? You know, I believe that giving a lot of specific detail in history and what people say is sounds academic eventually turns people off because there's a self loathing that has been put on society about learning. You know, how many times have you seen it personified in film and in art?

You know, the nerd, the bookworm, the nutty professor. Right there, there's a there's a deliberate propaganda against being learned, right, and it's a very very simple thing if you under stand how to have good discernment and good objectivity. Well, although it's quite often propagated that knowledge is power,

it actually appears more like weakness in in theatrical presentations. Right, because the victims of the stronger individuals, even though they are meant to be the underdog in a lot of cases, are the more learned, the more advanced in their knowledge, etc. Et cetera. Right, So they're pitted against the better looking, the better placed in society. This is one of those things that is very subtly sort of introduced on a on a not only a

subconscious level, but a very blatantly conscious level generally. Right. Yeah, Well, it's a propaganda, it's a cosmic propaganda to keep mankind away from no right, And that's what I was going to show. Yeah, that's why they again they show that you're you're if you Yeah, just look at the characters in Hollywood for example, right that they told you it's always been

that way, where they push things that way. And I like how you introduced the cosmic, you know, the cosmic idea of it, because you've also said on many occasions that there is a well a censorship, a cosmic censorship in place, and this is part of that. I think, would you describe what that cosmic censorship is like on more levels than what we just discussed. They Ken, it's well, the thing is, we're all subject

to it. Because what's interesting when you look at ancient documents, the biblical text, Qoran, the rig vitas, even some of the philosophers, uh, they discuss there apparently is the cosmic war going on, and we're in the middle of it, not very much, unlike if you've discussed you know, old stories. Are seeing stories with older people that said, well, I was born during the war in Europe. You know, people that were born in the twenties, thirties and forties, and how difficult it was.

Pretty much mankind will discover it. Pretty much for the past six millennia, they've been in the middle of a cosmic war. And just like any war, communications and inhibiting communications and preventing communication is one of the primary things in battle. So the the the you know, the the level of communication has been reduced to very base level stuff. That's why we started off by saying, you know, look at all the groups. Is are there any groups

that you would you know, want to be a part of. Look at these the sports people that are into sports. There's nothing wrong with sports. It's very good to exercise the body, but look at to what level it has been glorified. Right, look at academia, you know, corporate Institute of Technology, right, so you know, the government, religion. Yeah, it's just beyond ridiculous at this point. It should it doesn't have to

be, you know, No, it doesn't have to be. But doesn't it doesn't It sort of smack of disinformation, which is also a rather useful tactic, especially in a military sense. If you can convince the enemy that you're moving to the right, they might position themselves to deal with a move to the right while you thank them to the left. Right. Yeah,

asymmetric warfare precisely. But the point here is that the idea of splitting us into groups is actually one of these mechanisms as well, because we should recognize that we are a group, don't you think, Oh absolutely, you see. It's it's the yin and yang concept, the opposite. When something becomes very strongly polarized, it joins or and the same happens in the opposite sense.

Also when it unpolarizes, it just becomes this amorphous mass of glob So either way, the tendencies that mankind have now will be the same in the future, but they'll be of a higher quality, and they'll be more fit and proper, you know, more life giving, because right now it's a culture based on the worship of death. Right. For example, look at

something like cern, they're trying to find something called a god particle. They're not even defining which God because you know, people have been so removed from any reality regarding the spiritual world. They they just have this generic term God and they have no clue about the that you know what what it has been memorialized for thousands of years regarding that subject. Well, before we get intoscerned, before we get intoscerned, though, let's let's just break that down a

little more because the concept of the one God. Now this will sound distasteful to some people and they will say, well, there is only one God.

But really, what has happened here is that they've been propagandized to the point of believing that simply because it keeps them fully distracted from actually interacting with the gods about yeah, and there are many gods and there's a Here's the thing, when you look at the way the military is set up, where you have the private you know, enlisted third ninety dight blot camp, whatever they give these guys all the way up the ranks to you get to the

highest rank. And in the in the spiritual world, what they're defining as the one God would be the supreme Being, and makes some supreme. And it's so funny when you I've had this discussion for the past decade with not not just the people you know in layman terms, but the academics and the biblical scholars and the religious scholars, and you know, the top of the top tier people that are supposedly holding this information, and they cannot define God

or the top Being. They just go round and round. They don't know. And hence the purpose of the show. Maybe we can just make show how simple it is if one word, to spend a decade looking minimum four or five years of what's been memorialized about the spiritual world, you will find that the supreme Being is supreme being because he's not subject to death. All

of the other spiritual entities or gods are subject to death. And this might sound ridiculous to most people who have not looked into it yet, because one of the definitions of a god is to be immortal, meaning without mortality, and that that couldn't be further from the truth. And I don't like giving Hollywood references, but sometimes we have to. It seems like if we give anything that's in a book, it's too far off most of the time.

But if you remember the film The Matrix, right in the first film, I believe they said, well, be careful when you're in the Matrix because if you die in the Matrix, you die in real life. And they were trying. That was brilliant. That was that was the best part of the film because I when I saw that, I just stood up and try to explain. Is said to pause this thing? You know, it was on a DVD. I said, pause it. I need to explain something, and everyone just looked at me like, yeah, so what right.

It's kind of like giving the keys to the kingdom, and it's like a big deal. Right, Well, if you don't if you don't know how to turn the key, it's kind of irrelevant if it's in your hand anyway. So that's what it comes down to. What's what's centering about that is if you look at the ancient historians, These were historians that were supported by

the governments of their times from Egypt, Ancient Greece and Rome. They have records of very strict records about the death of gods like Bacchus or Sir say, these were gods that had died and there were an extra supernatural phenomenon going on, and they had priesthoods and temples and they had direct communication back in those days, and these gods were put to death in the Mahabarata. There's a story is the Hindi writings of Hinduism where prince goes out hunting and I'm

just paraphrasing here and he he kills believe an antelope or deer. Well, he really screwed up that day, not because he was hunting, but because there was a god that actually took the form of that particular animal. And when the god had taken the form of that animal, it was mortal. And there's a saga behind that where now the god that was killed, the

friends of that god may kind of put the prince. There's some trouble, you know, just as you will see when a god does take human form and you do kill him in human form that you have mortally wounded, he no longer exists in the spiritual realm as well. Very interesting, and this sounds fantastic. They know, how many times have you heard the truth is stranger than fiction? You know, but it's still the truth. Right.

So that's another odd concept to introduce here, is that most people that have a deyest view of things, let's just call it, would also state that a god would have a hard time dying because, after all, they get to exist in this afterlife that people talk about. Yeah, that's another thing that's all been. It's remember we were talking about a credit based economy and the concept of debt if you're ead to it right, you know, but that's not how it works, you know, and you know people are going

to say, look at the arrogance. You know, this guy is going to talk about how it works. You know, this is like eschatology, you know, the meaning of all things? You know, what is the meaning of life? What happens after you die? How can one know? Uh? While there's an old joke about that if dying was so bad, how come no one has come back to complain? Right? But anyway, Yeah, it's it's very interesting. Uh, what this is what can be

discussed is this and this is the interesting thing about it. Everyone's going to find out, right, everyone and everything and they will find out that this is indeed a created environment. There's something called cosmic superimposition. That's where you know, you can create a galaxy in a in a light bulb if you had the right frequency right the you know, anything large superimposes. There's a geometric shape that is part of the tools, a part of the pattern.

And what people will find out is they're not going to be very happy. By the way, when when things what's discussed as the afterlife, it's it's not necessarily an afterlife. It would be called a next life because let's just let's just cut to the chase and give some some truth. In fact here, when you die, you're dead. If you look at the Biblical text, it's very clear about that you have absolutely no consciousness of anything, and

you don't come back, you get yours. Then we have to get into the definition of what a spirit, a soul, and a body is, which there's only about Maybe I've again spent a decade asking people again not the layman, but going to where the layman would go, which would be your biblical scholars, your academics and university, your bishops, your rabbis, and not a one could give me a definition of what a spirit and a soul

is. Yeah, I was just gonna say, I guarantee there is not one of them who can actually define what a soul is, right, Yeah, it's very simple. And if you look at the language, the soul is your breath and the spirit is your mind. Very very simple. See. So this goes back to what happens when you die. The way you

know that someone is dead is that they're not breathing. The soul dies first, right, and then the body decomposes, and the spirit, which is the mind, which is completely intangible, let's just put it this way, gets downloaded back into the master hard drive to be reanimated later. It's very interesting, and people will fight you, they will go to war, and they will die in to support the belief that the soul and the spirit are the same, or that what they believe is true, and that you either

come back as this or whatever. Now that I have not found any ancient text that says that you come back or anyone has come back at all. It's all because no one is looking at it, you know, even in the Eastern texts. I mean, this is the interesting part about the Eastern society. Westerners tend to be a lot more forgiving the Easterns. When the Easterners find out that they've been scammed, oh man, that is going to be one hell of a revolution. You know. When I say Easterners,

I mean you know, the India, China, Asia at large. Yeah, they're going to be not very happy because when they find out all this ancestral worship that they've been doing and all this has been Yeah, and because it's in their own texts as well. So yeah, when you when you that's why to what death is like sleep without dreaming. That's why when there is a tombstone, what are they write on at Rest in peace? Doesn't

say you're dead in peace or you're coming back or anything like that. Now, there there will be a reincarnation or reanimation and a resurrection, but no one has been that has been done for anyone except except if you look at the Biblical text, there is one that was done in that fashion to be a prototype. Well, now there are some that would say that Lazarus rose from the dead and that Jesus rose from the dead. Different. Again,

there's a language problem. Let's go back to spirit and soul to show the subtleties. I think you had Ralph Eperson on your show a few days ago, and he discussed how the deception comes through the subtleties and manipulation of the language. The Lazarus was killed after he was brought about about this. I believe Everson is absolutely correct that the language in and of itself has been the

course of convolution for the reality. Much like you know during the story of the Tower of Babel they said, let them be confounded by their language. I think that is part of the reality in which we subsist at this point. Oh yeah, that's why anyone that tries to be Promethean, which would be let's do this to help mankind as a whole, gets tasked with a torture and a punishment. Like Prometheus was right, the eagle will pick your

liver out. That's why you have people like Tesla or anyone else that has to come out with a car that runs on water or whatever. They all meet a demise. The reason why they meet this demise, if anyone wants to in wholesale help out mankind at this point is going to meet their demise

because there is a terminal part of humanity that has to be manifested. So if you want to help mankind out as a whole, what will happen is you'll have the malevolent forces against you because their malevolent forces they don't want to see anything get better. But you're also going to have the benevolent forces against you because mankind has slipped so far away from reality that they're unrehabilitatable. So

the remaking and the redoing has to come. So the last thing you want is someone like Tesla or J. J. Thompson or a bunch of other people showing mankind how to build flying saucers. So yeah, but again I don't want to go back to the concept of the subtlety of the deception of words. Is it's very difficult to get across in this day and age because right away there is such a self loathing of knowledge. People do not want

to be called a bookworm or academic amongst their friends. Right, that's a nerd, Right, that is someone that can't speak plainly, right, they say, right. So, if you look at the subtlety of soul and spirit, like for example, if you look at the Greek paradigm that we're still in. The soul is the pnevma, a pnuma pne au prefix. That's where you get new matting pneumonia. Yeah, and the pnau means air movement of air. And the spirit is the sh or the psyche. That's

where you get psychiatrists, psychotics, psyche meaning the mind. Right, so that the ps whenever you see the psy prefix, that is the spirit.

It's very very simple. So there is this virus, mental virus. Because by the way, one day we'll maybe discuss how viruses don't exist biologically, and that's going to be a shocker in the audience might like that, not because of it's our opinion, but we'll just show we're not going to read a nine hundred page National Institute of Health document to show that there's no such

thing as a virus. But there's a few things on the internet, maybe one brave individual out of Germany, a retired scientists who prove that there is no it's just a hoax. And everyone still says you're going to catch a virus. So, but there is a virus, and it's a mental thing.

Just like in the computer, it's an information based one, well, you know, much like Prometheus. And there he is not the only story by the way that one can find in an ancient text or two or ten or twenty where someone does attempt to seemingly serve mankind by granting them some sort of knowledge which they previously did not hold. Of course, Prometheus stole fire from the gods in a very basic sense. I'm giving the story here Greek. But Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man, and

therefore had to be punished by the other gods. Right, so he was a titan himself. He was the he was up of the highest order. You know, he was a titan. The Olympic gods came after him, and then the minor gods. Yeah, but that's the Hellenistic side that people are still in. Yeah, but there are there. They're actually flesh and blood mortals that have done endeavors to help out mankind. But you can see

it right now anywhere the man. The minute someone says I have a new invention, I'm doing this to make society better, the clock is ticking, that person will meet some kind of demise, either with terminal or they will end up sleeping on park benches feeding pigeons. Right. Either in a real fast sort of way, in a fast paced way, in an accelerated way, they will meet their demise or they will find it later incrementally. So

we go to the break here. It is o'celli in the Greek here on American Freedom Radio, and I advise that you stay tuned because we may actually learn a little bit about the viruses and other things that are attacking mankind. Stay tuned, don't give in with no, you are not tripping on acid at all. You are listening to American Freedom Radio at American freedom Radio dot com. And it is still episode one of o'celli in the Greek. So

where did we leave off from the last hour? Actually we started to discuss viruses. Seems odd, but you know, I've often seen mankind itself described as a virus and all of these sort of attributes sort of well not sort of forget, sort of I've seen all of these attributes assigned to mankind that sound very similar to what a virus is. It almost seems like an apropos comparison. It's kind of like the soul and the spirit they mix it up.

It's kind of like ground zero, right, virus once again convoluted by the language, right and these things have very specific meanings and they're just used to very generally, and they've they're turned and twisted like nice. Everyone dares to look up the word nice in an etymological dictionary, right, or which is not really just a dictionary, because a dictionary just tells you how to pronounce the word. That's why it's called addiction ry. But the word nice

means foolish, stupid, and senseless. So everyone is wishing themselves again because of the self loathing for knowledge. There's a self loathing for those that want to get shit straight, right, so yeah, right, And of course being oblivious, well, what do they say, ignorance is bliss. This is one of the most common statements. It is you get to hear, and I assume it would be. Unfortunately, I can't find myself in a

position of being fully and thoroughly and unequivocably ignorant at all times. I always have just a fraction of knowledge, just enough to let it bother me, you know. And the thing is not to encourage anyone to be a bookworm or a nutty professor or sound academic. Just to use a little bit of discernment and a little bit of objectivity every day, it goes a long way. Unfortunately, there's a lot of reference material that one has to have access

to. That's the unfortunate part. Otherwise you're going to have to take it on face value. You know, all of these things are specific. And since we you know, it sounded exciting to talk about viruses, but there's a couple of bio medical people in Europe that have said, I've never seen a virus. I've never seen one in the laboratory, never been isolated, what is it? And they did research and there I would say medical whistleblowers.

And if you go look at the reference material on what they call a virus in a biological sense, by definition of virology is under toxicology, and toxicology the organ for toxicity is the liver in the body. And years ago virology, the field of virology was under toxicology. It was a poison. When you have dead or decaying matter, there's not you know it. That's why if anyone tries to do research on a virus, you will never ever,

ever, ever ever find a microscopic photograph of one. They're always computer renderings, just like you will never ever find any kind of a telescopic photo of a black hole. These are things that do not exist, you know. They have to make these things up. It's part of the religion of

science or scientism and the and unfortunately, people have things to do. People want to follow their own pursuits, and if you want to know about the world around you, you have to trust these entitled classes, and they are

not doing their job well. Now. Most of the people in the field are ignorant of it also, so it's the ignorant leading the ignorant, and those that are exactly and exactly like a religion in fact, because quite often the priests of a religion are also not really hip to what's going on with the religion, and they give a watered down version to the masses, the masses cling to it. The same thing happens with the scientific community. Do

you know what the research was? Have you actually seen it? They don't know. But they take the proclamations of these figureheads as well, gospel pardoners, all because their parents didn't tell them. It was a credit based economy, and the US Treasury has a credit line. But could you imagine if people found out they didn't have to work. They just use that credit line.

Who's going to make They're they're not enough of a moral they don't have enough of a moral backbone to say I'm going to get up and sweep the streets anyway. I'm going to get up and wash cars anyway. I'm going to get up and bake bread anyway. You see, they're just going to sit home and just they're going to do what they want. Right, if everyone became a millionaire, what do they say, I'm going to do what I want? Well, why don't you do what you want now and watch

what happens? You know? The term jobs, you know, we're going away from all these things. They just want to throw this in. Job is a term from the late nineteenth century. When people worked in a factory, they were given a job. It's a technical term. When you work in a machine shop, you're given a job. It's usually a sketch of a part. You have to mill out or hammer out over and over and over all day in a factory. So when these factories were, you know,

they're unstable, they would shut down. The people wanted to do some work to get money at the time, so they would promise jobs that was promised to because the term job had no meaning to anyone only if you worked in a factory. Let you see. And now the government and the raiding, oh, the job raading. It's like, who cares about a job? I mean, you know, what if you're working in the field, What if you're an artist, what if you're a musician. I mean,

why would I want to work in a machine shop? You know, that's a that's machine shop terminology, you see. You know, unless you're a machinist, why would you want a job? So yeah, this is really a very confusing Not only is it a very violent place, it's a very

confusing place, very misleading, very misleading. Like you said, you know, I personally am not a millionaire, but I am doing exactly what I would do as a millionaire, except not quite as much of it, right by by creating media, having these conversations, doing broadcasts things like that.

Of course, if none of my time was ever taken by the concerns of having to provide for my family, I would do a whole lot more of this, because truthfully, I enjoy disseminating information and making that part of my task every single day, you know, and this is you know the concept of democracy, right demos meaning the crowd, which also means terror. By the way, what are the two moons of Mars Phobos and demos fear and terror, fear and dread. Well, anyway, the democratic thing is that

people vote. So you know, how many times have you heard people asking for money, you know, for the price of a coffee every day, or you know, a membership or subscribe or you know, there's so many ways. And you and I have discussed how we can become distasteful. But essentially people that are listening to us tonight are going to at some point say this is pretty unique or or I don't believe it, or something or other. But one thing we can assure anyone who's listening is you have your No

one is discussing these things. There's there's really an effort being made between the Greek and Chuck o'celli here and Afar to pretty much say something that needs to be said that it is just not being said. So the three entities here, because we're just sonic entities to people on the other side, I've come together and and we're the ones donating, really, and it's up to the audience, you know, if they're gonna you know, how can we say,

should we keep by a show of hands? Should we keep discussing what we're discussing? You know, how do we see that? Ten? But if yeah, I could tell people that if they wanted to call in, they could participate, They could make their voice heard along with the other sonic elements here, and they could do that if they dare Because after all, listen, if you don't think that this conversation is worth having, if you don't think that this has anything to do with your reality, I want to

hear from you, I really do. And you can do that at two one eight three three nine eight five two five once again two one eight three three nine eight five two five. But really only if you have the guts to make a statement here, because I feel as though you're making a whole lot of statements and they're at least worthy of some sort of answer. So go ahead, guys, if you want to join in. Sorry, but

as you were saying, but how do we know what to do? You know, ultimately we're we're giving up our time right well, because all we have is time. You're born naked and you die naked. They dress you up or whatever during your life, even when you're dead, let's say, if they care enough, all you have is time in between. So if anyone ever says I don't have time for that, you can translate that into I really don't know how to manage my time for that, because all you

have is time, and how you're spending your time is important. How we're spending our time on this slot here on American Freedom Radio what they call Saturday, which we can discuss also timekeeping one day, yeah, for two hours by the wind up toy known as the clock. The Greek and Chuck Ocelli and Afar are going to be here. So you know, I'm not going to be so liberal to say, tell us what you want us to discuss, because part of it is we're talking at you right now and we'd like

to hear proverbially what you think. Now there's a sense of approval. It'd be great if everyone would that was listening would donate something right now to the station and to Chuck. I think you could find Chuck on his Facebook on the what would that be? Charles and the Ocelli effect on Facebook, you can find me on there. Also there's a public figure for Chuck Ocelli and also there's my personal page, but yeah, you can find and then there's

and there's the radio station as well. You go to the if you're listening right now, there's probably on the homepage somewhere away to donate something. It would be very interesting to see that there's a banner as a matter of fact, there's a big old banner with this sort of a morphous looking semi humanoid figure that says that it gives you a state and about the station moving. And if you click on that, I'm very sure that it will direct you

as to how to donate with your PayPal account as well. Yeah, and this has been done in the circus, you know, people call it, you know, the what you call the word church, by the way, comes from the words circuit or Circe. The goddess who has died. She died on the first century BC. The Greeks had documented that and her temple was on the Pharmacopeia Island. Yes, there is an island in theout you know, the island chains of Greece and Eugene called the Pharmacypia or Pharmacopia Island.

What went on there, let's see. Yeah, so they passed around donation. You know, and it was done very quietly, you know, because they knew they wanted to come back next week and they had to support some kind of support. You know. This is this is a very very simple concept. You know. This the internet digital is back to the telegraph zeros and ones. You know, the telegraph was on or off. Right you click click click click, click click click click, right, that's exactly

how your computers working. You're actually have revisited the initial forms of communication in the mid nineteenth century, you know, and we're now wondering what is going on with the people out there? How can they react with us? You know, and even even a soothsayer, even a soothsayer would receive some sort of tribute for telling you the future, whether they were a fraud or not. You know, most of them were. Here's most of them were.

But then again, look at the Internet. Most of the people doing these types of broadcasts and in the future. In the future is well, we could discuss that as well. That's pretty clear. I mean it's been written and it wasn't written by a bunch of idiots. It's things are happening the way they're supposed to. It's just not on the timeframe that people expected to and if we get enough objectivity and discernment, people will be able to see

it very clearly. They have to be patient to see how things will change. But yeah, it would be interesting to get you know, this is our first show, and to get some kind of input be great. If people just donate it, that's that's a way of saying, hey, we're passing around a donation basket, and look, there's a reaction. This is a virtual world. It's kind of like being out and telegraphing and message. You know, before telegraph and radio, the only way ships communicated you're ready

was message in a bottle. That was that is not just folklore, Yes, that were There were as as technical aspects to that, and yeah, based on the currents. Yeah, you had to be able to wreckt your bottle after all. Absolutely, and there was a watchman for that, and yeah, this is a yeah absolutely so yeah, and I'll tell you something

else. We touched upon it in the first hour very briefly, and I turned you away from it because I wanted to give it enough time for you to really dissect or possibly vivisect, the religion of science and how it relates to this whole CERN concept, and I'll tell you why so many have integrated this into a doomsday philosophy that has well sort of morphed into the panic that I take note of every once in a while when I'm reading my history,

that there are time periods where the end of the world is supposed to arrive. And CERN has definitely evoked this continuous thematic episode in man's history where you know, the world is coming to an end. There are many chicken littles, but there's very little sky falling. You got to interpret it the right way, and the right way is very simple. Their scientism is coming to an end. Here's an example. Back in the nineteenth century, it was

the trains, the railroad magnets, the captains of industry. They were the corporations controlling the world. They were the ones setting up puppet governments in Asia and in South America because they wanted to put a train system that would go around the world except for the Atlantic, right up through the US, across the bridge, across the Aleutian Islands into Russia, and then once you get into Russia you got all of Europe. The chunnel. You know, they

wanted to do a bridge across the English channel. This was all in the nineteenth century. Now it's the petro chemical companies and the pharmaceutical companies which are hand in hand in the military, let's say, but is controlled by them. But then it was the railroad money that controlled the military. That was your military industrial complex, you see. And when they were going out because the advent of the automobile and other things, their trains became very, very

elaborate. If you look at some of the later models of these engines, some of them were twelve feet tall, massive, super opulent passenger cars. I mean opulence beyond belief, right to the point where they created actually physical spectacles out of wrecking old trains. As literally, this used to be an event where people paid admission to be able to witness train wrecks. The first time it was done, actually it was kind of disastrous in that caused some

of the crowd to be killed and everything else, but train wrecks. Actually we're one of these, uh well, objects of curiosity. A spectacle is the word I was looking for. Yeah, it's a society that's been worshiping

death and destruction for millennia. So, by the way, what certain is doing anyone can do with a couple of hundred bucks from an old Neon sign shop and home depot, you can build well, you can do what they're doing, and even better and show a cosmic superimposition, which would be if she knew what you were doing, you could have a galaxy in a bottle. Now, now, Greek, that sounds almost insane because we're talking about a seventeen mile long exactly right. I forget what the repair bill was on

it recently, but it was a huge air bill, extremely opulent. I mean so huge that it actually straddles the border of two countries in fact, right, huge giant thing, And you're telling me for a couple hundred dollars I could do what we Again, let's make a Hollywood reference sort of assault immortalized in the film Men in Black, where I forget which one it was, but there was an alien at the end playing with a marble which actually

represented our universe. Essentially, they're not doing that because in order to do a cosmic superimposition and produce something like that, you would be working with the energy that produces life. They are worshiping death. See what they're doing is they want to smash particles together to study them. That's like saying, we want to study goats, so we're going to blow them up. We want to study fish, so we're going to take them apart. And that's exactly

what they do in biology, isn't it. They take things apart, they study. All of the medicine is based on the study of the chemical decomposition of cadavers. What does that have to do with the health of living people? Absolutely everything is die section. Once you move remove any part of physical tissue, whether it's plant or animal, from the host being, and it's no longer regenerative. It is now in chemical decomposition. Ah, that's why

all the drugs are based on what chemicals. So you have a society that worships death. I mean, look at their religions. They're talking about dead people. You know, we have an ancestral worship. This is a society that worships death, right darkness. So cern is basically the height and end of the railroad industry where they had these opulent engines and cars. There's nothing wrong with railroads, by the way, they're very very efficient, right,

It's the most efficient way to move anything on land. But the corporate side in other words, the side they see the purpose of a corporation now has become to make the innocent pay for the guilty. Right, So there's nothing thing wrong with corporations, just that the model that's being used today. Oh why is it like that? Because you're in a society that worships death. I mean, you could look at cern there's a certain is nothing more than

the opulent expression of the worship of death and destruction. That it's all it is. And it's basically you have a legal and scientific tyranny. It's not political. You see all the banking system, anyone high up in the banking system will admit to credit based economies just books and the people have the credit. The corporations and the governments have nothing. How do we get them to give it up without them knowing it that they have it? Right now?

For the groups that are benefiting from this or what's called physicists, scientists, and the legal society. As a matter of fact, there's a show called a TV network called c SPAN, and quite a few years ago I was watching and when they had the speech of the president or the chief of the Bar association. Uh he and in the beginning of his speech, he said, in order to have a strong economy, you need a strong legal system. Now what he's talking about is their economy, not your economy. Right.

And the same thing with the scientists. You know, what they're going to do is invent things that don't exist. You know, ever since Einstein, you have no more what's called science, which is basically a twentieth century invention. Uh. There there were no there was no such thing as a scientist or a physicist more than one hundred and fifty years ago. And now if you go when you research some of the the greats in that field from

a few hundred years ago, they call them scientists and physicists. They were not they call themselves natural philosophers. They were either vitalists studied living things, or materialists. So this is really a posthumous Yeah, this is a posthumous title which has been bestowed upon them as scientists. Right, yeah, exactly. Yeah, even there, and they can't because you know they're they're dead.

They're not going to complain. They would be and if any of those men came back today, they would be an absolute horror across the board, from the men on the street all the way up to what's going on concern or the halls of universities or government, they would be in complete horror, complete horror of what's going on. It's it's been and what's been accepted. But again a little bit of objectivity is all it takes in some discernment.

Most of it is again not going to be on the internet because like I just said, you could, uh, you know, put in Alessandro Volta or Isaac Newton or you know any of these guys a tesla you say this guy was a scientist or a physicists, know he wasn't he was not, it was those words did not exist in those days. So you know, people are they've brought into it hook line and sinker. You know, there's a you know, the the religion aspect. You know, the Pope right

being in town. You know, oh the Catholics are going crazy. You know, it's wonderful, right, you know we have some activity. The their their their their patriarchs is in the news. Well, if if you were to study Catholicism objective, objectively, their creed is that they their believers, their followers believe in one Apostolic church. Right, That's that's it. There's nothing to do with the bye doesn't say, it doesn't mention biblical text

or anything biblical or anything. And if you look in who these apostles were, you will find that the first pope and the well was it made the first pope after he died, but was a man named Simon Magus, Simon the Sorcerer, lovely, wonderful. That's where your gnosticism comes from, and all these other things. So this is not a new thing, like we just harped on the uh, you know, what's going on in the twentieth century and such. But this has been going on for thousands of years.

And the beauty of it right now is that mankind is in the credits. The movie ended already, guys, and you're in the credits, and all this information on who's behind the scenes and what has been going on is going to be coming out. And that's why we're speaking. I believe that I don't like using that word that the time is not now, But there's nothing wrong with giving a trailer of next year's movie. That's what you know.

People go to the movies and they see the film, and you know, right now people are going on the bookmarked what they're going to listen to on the internet, and they do so, and here they see the Ocellian, the Greek speaking on American Freedom Radio, and they're like, well, Okay, this guy sounds whatever, But yeah, whatever is this is going to hit people pretty hard in the next few years. So we're just giving them

a precursor of the things that are going to be on the forefront. But the interesting part of it is is that they're going to take it lying down. It's going to be normal. You know, when these major changes start to come starting in the next few years. It'll be shocking if we actually reveal the detail of it now. But when they do come, the people are going to accept it, because when you're under so much tension and frustration that any respite or any change is good, even if it's not for the

better. Well, also, just like you said in the last hour, the people are susceptible to outside programming. And what has happened is many things have become normal that if I had been speaking about them. Let's just wind time back a little bit. If I had told you twenty years ago that there would have been a massive terrorist attack on American soil, and that it would have extremely altered that which people consider to be their freedoms. This is

actually happen. But they might have called me crazy, and they would have five you know, they would have left because what the hell is a terrorist? There's no such thing. Well, there's no terrorists here. That may be something that was a poetic Yeah, there's a there's definitions of it, but it was not in the vernacular, would mean no one was. It was never brought up as even an issue. It's kind of like the you

know, now it's global warming in the seventies. You know, it was an ice age, definite ice age by the nineteen nineties, right right, So yeah, but the flip that's happening, that's going to be coming now we're getting a little into what's coming in the future is going to be accepted just like it's accepted right now. It's in the future is going to be

in the Middle East, what they call the Middle East. You know, there's there're gonna be ten nations that could basically come together like the EU did, but not in that capacity, in a different capacity, and it'll be a Middle East Union, a very loose one, but there are going to be working in unison together and all this stuff that's going on in the Middle East right now, it's just strictly to denationalize the area. What I mean by that is you cannot have, let's say, using the EU as a

as a paradigm or a model. If France is too nationalistic and they don't get along with Germany and you know, Greece is too nationalistic and they don't get along with Italy, you know, you can't form a union, right. So what you do is you go in there and you destabilize all the centralized governments and you put in people that are docile and complacent and they all come together. You can't have a nationalism and sectarian fighting or even religious fighting,

right. So what you're seeing now going on in the Middle East, And the reason I'm bringing this up is because the two main things that people are discussing in the news is the election and what's going on in quote unquote Syria. But they're not talking about Yemen, they're not talking about what's going on in Saudi Arabia, they're not talking about what's going on in Israel because it's there being allowed to see. But essentially there are nine countries right now

we're waiting for a tenth one to come on the scene. And when this tenth one comes on the scene, yes, a new country, a new old country. It's so old everyone's forgotten about it, but their people are still here. And when they've come together as a nation, then that Middle East Union will be formed. And now you have your final new world order, your final Earth's man made powerhouse kingdom, let's say, or centralized part of the world will be there. And that's not going to begin for the

next few years. And the country that you're looking for is a country called Assyria, not Syria, Assyria. And it's interesting how cosmically there's an irony house. Syria is in the news a lot, and very often when I've discussed privately and publicly the formation of a new country for the Aussirian people, this he means Syria. I mean no, not Syria, Assyria. The Akkadian Chaldean people so and they're spread out throughout the entire world right now,

and they do not have a country. They haven't had a country in twenty three hundred years. And the reason why they didn't have a country for so long is because in ancient times their primary resource was war. That's all they when they wanted something, they got together and just did war and just took on. And they were real badasses. They had the most evolved and most

fearsome siege works and war machinery known to man. And I believe cosmically, if they were not put down and dissolved, we wouldn't be here right now. So but this country, this people will revive their nation. And when it is revived, And by the way, where is Assyria, it's in

northern Iraq. It's in the area of the Euphrates and the Tigris, and then it's called the nineva Plaine. And when it forms, it's going to take a little bit of land from Turkey and Syria, and those two areas in contention and Iraq and almost three when you say Turkey, Syria and Iraq, those are all places right now that are in the heat and the entire world will focus on this area. So the Russians being in Syria right now is nothing, Yes, it's something. It's important because it's showing, you

know, the US has been there and the Russians are there now. So you have the two military economic superpowers that are involved. They're almost surrendering their position. If those that know what's coming. We'll see that the US involvement and Russian involvement in that part of the world is not an escalation, but it's them being prepared to play second fiddle on the world stage, not first fiddle, because first fiddle the leading group and the new world order will be

in the Middle East. So there's your little future. There's your news before it's news. And that's the purpose actually behind what seems to be a senseless Balkanization. That's the term I use all the time of places like Iraq, of the decentralization of power there is to create a vacuum so that this nation

could be formed. It's actually a very strategically sound way to do it, much like the Third Reich rose because of the vacuum of power that was created that allowed the National Socialist Party to rise as it did on a smaller scale. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, these people will be peaceful, though they will not rise in the nature that they were known for, but they will be a force to be reckoned with it. And one of the main

world characters is going to be a Syrian in the future. He will be one of the most powerful people ever on the face of this earth, who has ever lived, actually will come out of that group of people. And we can also discuss that in the future. There's there's something that that is that in other words, when these things start to happen, people will just accept it, and if you know of them now, you will not be in the frustration or in the sense of wonder. And that something is understanding

that humanity is in a terminal condition. In other words, everything that people are looking at, you know, will not be here in the next couple of decades or less. Let's give them more lee wakes if we actually give

them time frames. It's kind of senseless at this point. But if you look at, for example, a few decades ago, when captains of industry and governments related to the public, they were always discussed in public works, new highways, new bridges, infrastructure, better schools, in large ideas like the New Deal, concepts, multigenerational talk. Right now, none of them are saying anything. They're only being reactionary. Only when something happens do they

make a statement. It's as if all of the authority of the world has retracted from making any statements beyond a decade or two. Have you noticed that? Oh? Absolutely. Another thing I've noticed is Okay, this is going to sound really off the wall, but what let's go for it. Anyway.

If one recalls a lot of the interpretations of a few years back of well, the man that they called Nostradamus Michel de Nostredam right, this guy, if you actually take a look at a slightly different translation from that which most scholars of his work gave, you can actually see a very similar pattern to what you're talking about. Yeah, I haven't studied him, and the thing is, it's one of these things that you don't want to fight against the tide. Now. I haven't studied him, so I can't say if

if what he's reckoned is correct or not. But I'll tell you his name has been trampled through the streets by enough people that I find to be very distasteful that the information has become distasteful. And we don't know I mean when I say we, I really can't comment on mister Damas because of what's happened. There are many things that comments can be made on if one can show the or speak to the listener the proof of it. But I have no

proof about four or against mister Damas well. What I'm saying something I feel extremely proud of myself because that is the first time that I think I've ever mentioned something that you did not say you had some knowledge right away, So yeah, I know that. Yeah, I try to stick with this is this is where I focus, and I recommend anyone would focus on where there's something substantive or it has a base to it, like if you know, if you see a note and it, you know's a note like what they

call money, all right, we'll go get something for it. You can't write, so that means it's debased. Right. If you see a religion with Santa Claus and they tell you they base their religion on the Bible and you don't see any Santa Claus in there, well that's completely debased, right, So all of these things are debased, you know. So when you're looking at things regarding time, the first thing you look for is are they

discussing how to reckon time? Right and right now, I can tell you pretty solidly and confidently there are very few people left on the planet who can reckon time anyone. If you ask anyone what day it is, and they say, any thing January through December, or Monday through Friday. They do

not know how to reckon time. That is merely admitting that you are a papal subject, a subject of the Vatican, or subject of the Pope, which is there's I'm not going to say there's anything wrong with that, but there's nothing right about it either, right, so I have to mean neutral.

And it is fascinating because most people don't realize that they are. And that's why I constantly, now at the top of my own show, bring up that according to the pope's work schedule, it is this particular day exactly. I mean, look at Septem means seven, octob means eight, like octopus or octagon, nova means nine, and dessam means ten, and they're all writing numbers. And if you discuss this with anyone, this is the main thing that I look at regarding time, And if you discuss this with

anyone, there it is so the cognitive dissonance sets in. So it is so deep. I mean, that's why I keep saying, oh, yeah, the humanity is going to take this lying down because they haven't even realized they don't know what day it is. And then and then of course, you have the ones that will throw you into lala land and they'll say there's no such thing as time or anything like that. You know, I mean

so sad. The sad reality is, though, that if you read a true representation of what the biblical script is, they actually give you a way to tell time, don't They absolutely all the ancient texts to see the day starts simply, the day starts at high noon. That's why if you remember banking before the electronic convention, you deposited made a deposit afternoon or an hour or so after, it was counted as the next day. And that's why. You know, when they held in common law courts court, you know,

the execution was the next day. That's why they hung you at high dude. So the day started at noon, you know. You know, for thousands of years people settled their debts with the new moon, which is the full moon which rises in the east. That's why today you still get a monthly bill. But now they've turned the new moon into the dark one, and they've turned the day starting at midnight. You know. The contrast here is it used to be that you reckon time with the light and the

luminaries. Now you reckon time in complete darkness. Oh, because they worshiped death in darkness. I see. Okay, see how we've tied the whole thing back together. Because as we began here at midnight, this would begin the new calendar day in the east here on the east coast, right, a little bit earlier for you when we started. But nevertheless, the point is that this is the reality. We begin at the darkest point in the day, start literally, right. That's why to go back to the you

know, the there's a self loathing for knowledge. People loathe those who have information or knowledge, you know, the nerd, the nutty professor of the bookworm, the academic. You know, they're bad, right. That's why those who do gain knowledge, what do they do? They retract from society. If you look at the sages, the ancient sages, where did they live. Did they live in town? No, they lived somewhere in the forest, or they lived somewhere in the desert where they went away from the

people. Because when they went into town or they went into the cities, they were an absolute horror. You know. Give you an example. There was someone in the neighborhood that was moving out quite popular and they were having a going away party, and that's what I got out of it. And I'll tell you that's why I got out of it, because I hear a knock on the door and there's a woman standing there with a shaved head, and she had a low cut shirt and there was a big skull tattooed on

her chest. And I was in total shock. I was in total horror to see this individual, this woman standing in the front door, and her mouth was moving and I was hearing sounds, but I was in absolute horror and her appearance, and she's telling me, oh, we'll have some wonderful food and all listen. And of course, you know, if you've got a shaved head with a tattoo of a skull on your chest, hey,

more power to you if you think that's the way to go. But that would put myself in many others that I know, in absolute horror, you see, So the sages would have to go out of you know. That's a little personal aspect of it, no I understand. And also even the adaptation of certain words relating to those who are knowledgeable, like, for instance, the word geek, right, someone who is a geek et cetera,

et cetera. Well, that became part of the language literally through the idea that someone who you know, bit the heads off of live chickens at the circus was a geek. This guy was definitely not part of social groups that would be in town or among the people generally speaking. Right, you know, that's the extreme polarization. They're very very Yeah, So those that want to see things go right, extremely polarized on one end, and those that

want to see things go extremely wrong, extremely polarized on the other. Neither can Yeah, there's a middle ground because mankind is mid range. They don't they can't comprehend the simple and they can't comprehend the complex. That it's all mid range stuff. You know, it's got to be simple. Look at sports, all you got to know is that this you know, this ball has to go you know in the goal here, and the two different color uniforms. You know, that's you know, I don't understand you know,

people chasing balls with uniforms. I mean, there's there's wonderful aspects to physical uh, you know, putting the body under physical exercise and the benefits of being fit, but the level of the society has taken it to is again

you know something that is not understood physical. Yeah, physical competition literally morphed from the comparison of one's physicality to another, much like I've often said that I appreciate gladiatorial sports or things like weightlifting or running a whole lot more than I do team sports, generally speaking, because there's just a greater level of sophistication to that which is seemingly more simple. But in all honesty is a

true test as opposed to the over complication of comparison. Yeah. And with that, you know, every culture had its form of martial arts, you know, and now the only the Asians respect has been popularized, you know, but every culture had you know, the Greeks had the pancrati, and in South America, I guess Brazil would be the capuetta, which looks like the dancing moves. And every culture has its high art of body movement,

right. Uh. And again it's been centralized, you know, oversimplified, you know, Bruce Lee, you know, uh, you know, but you know, any it's been Yeah, the personal aspect has been taken out.

Who was an incredible martial artist, but yeah, not to discredit him or take anything away from him, and he discovered tai chi, which was a form of style that could not be taught until the person, you know, reached a certain skill level understand what's called the chi, and that put him in a lot of dislike I guess, but so I've heard, but uh yeah, each culture had that, So yeah, this the interesting part is is what can we say we you know, we're going to be here

once a week. We're going to try to at least and just discuss things that maybe people are not hearing. And as a matter of fact, let's just say it this way. I know they're not hearing, and this is this is the place to come perhaps to hear these types of things, you know, well absolutely, And of course you won't be able to hear the

Greek speak in too many other places, at least not now. So the future we will there is going to have we say way, who's we But there is going to have to be a concerted effort made to broadcast this information, both in writing and in digital format and in terrestrial format. I think there's going to be a need for it. There's going to be a sobering up of society, and it's just the information has to be you know,

given. I mean, wait until people find out that there were For example, the American Institute of Electrical Engineers in nineteen twenty three stated that were only six months away from having a self sustaining electrical device. And now they call it free energy. Right, This is the American Institute of Electrical Engineers is a mainstream you know, it still exists group. And they came out and said this in the early twenties. Where is it? They were very confident,

by the way, and they had it. So where is it? You see, this time period is now over. In the near future and in the coming future, there will be discussions on the reality of things, the reality of reality, not the reality of things that are debased like your money, your law, your science, your religions are all debased. Uh, there's a there's it's very simple to go back and and you know,

kick those institutions in the shins. It's very easy. I mean they have their soft side, you know, open, and if you want to take a kick at him, it's you know, I mean Einstein. I mean, come on, Santa Claus, come on, come on, guys. You know Federal Reserve note, you gotta be kidding me. You know, all this stuff is so easy to pick at, right, but the people are not ready to hear. They're too frustrated, they're under too much tension. So the you know that can be done. Those things should be picked

on and called out for what it is. But on the other hand, perhaps laying the ground for things to come that are substantive and are going to be based on something real and tangible, you know, like learning how to keep time, learning what lawful commerce is, you know, understanding who the gods are. You know, all of these things come together, they're all

the same. Well, and that's really actually one of the more interesting aspects of what I think we're going to do here, which is we're going to start to teach people that there is a vast amount of difference between destroying the idols in front of the temple and actually destroying the idea that the temple has embodied. This is this is part of the problem right now. I think they're destroying the statues, which are easily replaced, or at least attempting to

and in some cases quite unsuccessfully thus far. It's they're too weak, you know. Here's here's the point, and the hypocrisy is too high. For example, I've engaged people that are, for example, are anti Vatican control, right, You've heard that a lot, and I've engaged them as such. The first thing I asked them is what day is it today? And guess what they say, something between January and December and something between Monday and

Friday. And I freely feel sorry for them because they're out there, you know, bashing the Pope. Right yet they're admitting with their own mouth, but they're the pope subject. We're talking about a level of insanity and hypocrisy that it just you know, I can't I can't engage so which which goes way beyond those that claim to be Christian and still celebrate Halloween. This is way Christianity. Yeah, well, here, Christianity is a secular thing.

You see the secular historians, you know, they were talking about atheist professors. Now they have labeled the era the past two thousand years as the Christian era. Christian Christianity is secular. It's not a well they call it, well, it's religion, but it is a secular religion. In other word, it's based on actually, let's come out and say it, lower demonic

entities that have existed for thousands of years. Uh, you know, and and they and they're they're very passionate about it, and they're very ignorant about it. But that's that's what makes them dangerous. The same with every religion. I mean, look at what's going on right now with what they call Islam. If you read the Koran, you would never be associated with anything that's being done in the name of Islam, whether it's pacifist, warlike,

radical or anything that none of them know anything in. They're the same with the Hindus, the same with the Buddhists, none of them know anything about. The Jews are the same. You know, there's no religion on the planet right now, Barnan that does anything that's in the text that they allegedly subscribe to. I mean, yeah at all. Yes, this is an absolute point of once again irrefutable reality. And I'll tell you we're just about

to run out of time. And I think that the second episode of O'celli and the Greek I think we should focus on because maybe these concepts and maybe these realities are a little too high end for some people. I'll tell you what I think we should do with the next episode, Greek, I think we should focus on the human body and all of the drugs and maybe how that works. So perhaps if people get into their minds, know thyself, perhaps they will know the rest of the story a little better. What do

you think, Well, here's the thing. If you're deceived about how your own body works, and your body is HQ headquarters for your soul and your spirit. If HQ is deceived, you're going to extend that deception in everything you do. And how could you possibly understand the universe if you don't know what's going on in your own backyard or even in your own skull. So why don't we do that next time? What do you think, Yeah, let's let's let's earmark that for the next thing to talk about. You know,

how the human body works and what this material container is about. And just from a simple perspective, I mean, this is just, you know, stuff that should have been taught to us when we were you know, just out of diapers, you know, well exactly, But of course before we were out of diapers, we had to learn how to walk and talk and everything else, unlike the other animals, because we're one hundred percent subject

to external input. That's what makes us unique. So if anyone's going to walk away from the show tonight, the things to remember is that we are not animals because we are subject to external input where the animals are not. I mean, yes, they do can be trained, but we need everything from external sources. And the gods can also be put to death, folks. Sorry, And and when you die, it's just like being asleep without

doubting, dreaming. That's why it says rest in peace. That guy standing up there, you know, at a funeral talking about all this stuff doesn't mean jack, because what's written in stone is what's written in stone, and what's written in stone is rest in peace. And that's it. So I hope you guys enjoyed this, and I hope you have learned something. Thank you Greek. We will do this next week with episode two. All right, lacky out news and information you can trust. This is American Freedom Radio.

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