Vampire Priestess Magdalena Solís

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Welcome to the occult rejects. This episode, we got a little bit of a cult and we got a little bit of true crime coming at you today. I got a bunch of rejects with me. I got a couple of people joining us. Lisa the occult reject man scientist is here with us today, and uh and Lisa, thank you very much for joining us. I appreciate it. And we got Julia Cosmic Peach here with us as well. You know, it was true crime and it was some weird occult shit, so I figured, why not bring Cosmic Peach alone?

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I appreciate the invite, uh, JJ Vance host of Operation g c D. Not not the vice president, Lisa Juliet. Great, great cel game. Looking for the conversation right right, Great to meet you the uh. You know this topic of conversations right in my wheelhouse, you know, sadly enough, ritual human sacrifice.

Now you're now you're talking my language, you know what I mean?

So I cover I cover those topics on Operation g c D quite frequently, amongst many other things.

And UH do a live show.

On Wednesday nights on YouTube Rumble and Twister and Friday nights Fridays with the Occult Rejects Nick on the same same platforms. Yes also on RSS, fees and whatnot as well, but yeah, looking.

For to the conversation.

Yeah, definitely, uh, definitely wasn't familiar with this topic, but I'm uh, you know, it will be nice interesting, that's for sure.

So JJ, when you go like on speed dating or on dating apps, you put down that line about if you're talking about whatever that was, you're talking.

Like, yeah, right, human sacrifice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you're into that.

I said, I want to dating site. They would tell me that isn't a great idea. Conspiracy, It probably would work all the conspiracies. You're into flat earth, and then you connect with other conspiracy theorists and then you make conspiracy babies and then we start.

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I'm sorry, this is your show, not mine.

We're getting there. We getting there three and a half minutes and we're finally going to get to the guests. So ORAI code Codex of curiosities. My man, Please let everybody know what your deal is, what your show is about, what's up and whatever you want to plug? Please?

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Cool, Yeah, my show is conspiracies, Dating and conspiracies. No.

I was just like they took me a second. I was like, wait, I'm just.

Gonna steal that right now.

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Yeah, So my show does we do conspiracies. I do Lost History, I do you know, paranormal, supernatural, UFO, abduction, all the like, everything that kind of falls in there is what I do. And then I do the odd.

I'll definitely say you have. You know when I first came across I think I told you in DM I was like I thought you were only true crime. I must have looked at the only two shows you've.

Done exactly exactly. It was Jack the Ripper and this this called the Magdalena Sold this the Vampiric Blood Priestess.

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And then and then when I went back and looked at your stuff, I was just, you know, more of your stuff. I was just like, Oh, this guy covers like everything. Yeah, I thought crime dab. Yeah, he does have a slew of different types of topics for sure.

Yeah, it was between those two.

When I saw that, I was like, ah, but same last name as Lisa. I'll ask him for that first.

Of course.

Yeah that's yeah. So so do we want to get into it or yeah, let's just jump right into it. Okay, So the topic what we're going to be talking about is a place in Mexico and San Luis Potosi called Yoba Buena. And this is small, Like when I say small, that doesn't even doesn't even cut it. You know, it's it's tiny, tiny, little village. That was this this village

Right, imagine looking for stuff like that, things to check off. I could go there, the manipulation. I haven't thought of that, but it makes sense.

And your bewenna means good herb Okay, So if you if you get the feeling where that's coming from. That was most likely it was. It got its name from the cartels who used to work in that area and we use the fields to grow their crops. But they were eventually run out by the federal allies. So that's a kind of already god it's name, you know, maybe or Buena also means spearmint as well, but I believe we're going to go with the fact that it's a good herb. Is really where they got that name from.

So it's crazy in the sixties that can still happen. I mean, listen, I can understand that you end up in like, you know, the rainforest someplace in Africa, but I mean in Mexico.

Well remember Nick, the sixties were like Laurel Canyon program to kill serial killers and you know all that stuff. It doesn't surprise me. There was so many cults that broke out in the sixties. It makes your headspind it's craziness.

But I think like in Sun Louis Potos, it wasn't in dominantly indigenous still, like it's so the tourist attraction that it is now today.

I believe so, I completely believe so. And one of you know, everybody knows one of the things of cults is to isolate your the people, you know, keep them isolated. But that's already happened in this town is already completely isolated, you know, and they were they were long gone and forgotten already. You know, they were taking advantage of by the cartel. But the cartel's now gone. So all they were doing for for income was like selling beans and corn.

A question these brothers, were they like learn it at all or do they say, like which specific gods they were representing?

Well, they just kind of just like gods. Yeah, okay, because these these people don't really know they're like sure, sure that that sounds like. And these men weren't learning like you know, they I don't know the full background of they had enough education to be able to pull off some good scams, right, and be able to manipulate people, which you got to have some education be able to do that.

At least more than the people you're taking advantage exactly.

Yeah, they got their grade ten and everybody else has the Grade nine, So there we go.

Was was there a lot of other known cold activity in around that area at the time?

Do they get did they get bit with a New Age bug?

Not that I know of, I don't. I don't know that, but yeah, like the New Age like peace love and you know, like the Hippie movement.

I did, because I mean scientology was in that and around. I mean, I don't know that area of Mexico, but they've been operating in Mexico since the nineteen sixties, late nineteen fifty.

So there's I think they were in school which was over in Yucatan, which is.

Down there, but they have these child farms they've been operating to which they're not exactly.

The Yucatan were they located sture t U l Okay.

It's still the same name, but San Luis Potosi is correct me if I'm wrong. It's north of Monterey. No, I'm not Mexico City.

Sorry, yes, but it is near Monterey, very near Monterey.

Right, which is not that far from like the Matamoros cold that would they would erupt in the seventies and eighties.

It's further south, right, isn't it.

Yeah, And it's on the coast, Yes, close to being on the coast.

Yes, same state though right, same.

No, I think no, I think I think they're more northern states. Yeah, what is that the.

Name of its I'm not good with American names first and foremost, so Mexican names not my not my thing.

But that's how you pronounced it. I often wonder how much cold activity.

Went in around that area, and looking into this cold I'd never heard of as I go, Wow, there's far more cold activity in that region than I you know, previously.

Did the brothers have any like military, like ex military, any governmental nothing where they're fit, where their grandparents Satanists, where they like part of generational Satanism, anything like that.

No, no, not they.

They just broke out on their own kind of.

Yes, exactly exactly. And yeah, so Tampico is on the east coast? Is is that what you're saying? But this area, I believe San Luis Potosi is is not is a bit north. It's it's north of Mexico City, but it's it's still south of it's kind of in between. I don't know if we want to stay in between the border of like of the US and Mexico City. It's I don't want to say halfway. No, it's it's much closer to Mexico City.

But yeah, I'm not going to Mexican geography anyway. Between what you're saying, Monterey, Mexico City. I can picture those places, but anything else between, like I'm not not certain of.

Not no problem, no problem.

Yeah.

So yeah, it's it's north of Mexico City and south of Monterey is where we're going to find it.

But this is kind of an abnormal theology, you know, this not just the Incins is your point now coming to New Mexico claim to be representing Incan gods? But from from what it seems like with this cold, it's not. It's not rooted in local folklore.

At this point. No, at this point. No, it changes though, it changes gears, and and that's when things get get a little crazy.

Okay.

Yeah, so yeah, and it's like these guys were just career criminals going around finding targets, finding hits. But this was the craziest one of them all. You know, like before, it's I believe before a most smaller you know, like hitting families, hitting up families and smaller areas or smaller like targets, but this was this was their big hit on this one. And one of the issues though with this is if we're going back to the story, is that they they they continued this charade for a couple

Okay.

So they drove to Monterey and that is where they recruited Magdalena Solis and her brother and I'm going to butcher this name because it is a difficult name, Elizar Als. Okay, So that is the brother of Magdalena Solis. Now, it's unknown if if Magdalena Solis and Eliasar and the two brothers actually knew each other prior to this. They might have there might have been a relationship prior to that beout.

He was pimp and his CIS's so messed yeah, yeah, completely messed up.

Now, not only did she not only was she a prostitute, though she was also had a side hustle as a fortune teller and a medium. She would claim to be like channeling spirits of oh that's exactly, that's exactly, you know. But but she is in this kind of concept. So she was said she would channel like these brujas okay, and for those who know, those are witches. So that was I believe that played a big part in in

Then they were just kind of making it up as they went along.

Making everything exactly they Like when they got back, did they like switch it up, like, oh, by the way, just kidding, it's as techs, not in.

Like you think right there, they'd be like, hold the fuck up, Like, first off, who are you? Second off, it went from inca to now it's as tech to now it's this, and now it's that. And I'm wondering if the brothers knew her because they were getting some push on the other side of town and maybe they got a reading or something, and maybe they got tight with her brother and they were like, let's run game

Like that is a good point.

In fact, it's a great point, and none of that can be proven or disproven. Another can be claimed or disclaimed that is not in there. But there was assumptions. The only assumptions was they might have known each other prior to this. But I think you're bringing up a great point, you know, it's kind of it's interesting. It is very.

Interesting to Julia's point.

When I was listening to it at the beginning and now listening to you, Julia, I wonder if they were about to get caught rod and dirty, and so that their whole game in that oh oops, we invoke the ink in people and they know that it's not and so get someone who could pose as an Aztec priestess and change it up, do you know what I mean? And that probably the charade was falling apart, and so

Yeah, because it's like this chick already likes to make money dirty. Yeah, you're not going to take a lot of convincing to be like, hey, you come back with us, right right. It's like, hey, you don't even have to you don't even have to get as dirty. You know what I'm saying, We'll pay you for doing less if you come with us. So I think she found an easy way out.

I would do it too.

I'd be evoking all kinds of shit, like get me out of here. My brother is literally pimping me. But nobody knows that. Yet, nobody knows anything about her. So there's they're still able to pull off this this charade right.

Right, acquisition in the matter, right, Like, aren't the locals they're Catholics, they're letting all this problem.

No, No, there's no church, know nothing there like that. They were completely isolated. So there's no church in electricity, no school as well. So you've got the perfect mark there. They're just just right for picking.

Oh yeah, I just assumed the Catholics did a number of Mexico hundreds of years ago.

They just got across the whole landscape.

Yah, they forgot this little po dunk town. They just skipped right over it now.

So and also to boot to this, so the the villagers also believed that. And I don't know who stated this, but if we're talking about like Catholics, so the villagers also believe that Lasar was the reincarnation of Saint Francis. So they just ran with that. So there, so I know, we're saying there's no church and there's no Catholic religion, but they had an idea of who Saint Francis was. So that's interesting.

Yeah, when it was one time, if you didn't know who Sint Francis was, they they hung upside down by the steak or something lit you on fire, you know what I mean?

Oh my god.

All of all of the missionary priests that came from Spain in the fifteen hundreds were all of the Saint Franciscan Order.

None of them came their order.

It was predominant because it was in southern Spain where ernand Cortes predominated in that one specific area of Mexico, and so it was all majority of that Franciscan order. The other orders went elsewhere in North Mexico, South America and all that other stuff, but predominantly the area was a Franciscan order.

Would you think that las Laisar he knew that shit before he got to the little town. Maybe he had been exposed, he was he wanted to be in on the the scam too, like, oh, my sister's not going to get all the glory, Like I gotta be somebody. All right, you're saying Francis, asshole, get up.

Maybe he had a slight resemblance to Saint Francis and maybe and it could have went that way.

Yeah, Oh we talked to animals. That's his thing.

No, no, no, Saint Francis is that he could speak to him. Sorry, no, no.

Well, which is crazy that the he talked to animals, because what they end up doing right away is so un Saint Francis Like yeah, because like the villagers then just accepted them, like yes, this is what we've been waiting for. And that's when it all really started. So Magdalena started taking control. At this point, she started introducing like these crazy things such as animal sacrifices and then

Okay, Oh shits yeah, the possible triangle.

Yeah yeah, now.

I have I have just the quickst question ever, was was she did she believe in it? Because like she was like doing this which wichy stuff before they even got her inducted into this cult, like she was summoning stuff, and like maybe she really did think.

Like that's that. That's that's what I think. I think it ties in with it because she was already kind of getting into this mindset of like I am a fortune teller and I am channeling these bruhas, and maybe there was part of her that actually believed that.

Okay, right, yeah, but especially I was like drinking the blood and doing the like. You know, even if it was me, if I was, I knew it was all kind of like a setup and it was I wouldn't be drinking it. No, thanks, you know, it's like how far do you get into it?

Well, and I will say this, like in the Hispanic culture, at least in the Mexican culture, we do predominantly cook our food and blood, so like like and stuff like that. I don't know if you ever had that in Manko it's geeseol I have with Yeah, you cook it in blood and stuff like that. It's it's it's one of those things that the people they're called compass, they would live off the land and you ate everything everything from intestine to whatever. You never let anything go to waste.

That's not I think there's.

Throats and yeah, just like like doing like again, I don't know, but.

Well in this one they would they actually had like a ceremonial chalice that they were they were using. Yes, yes, sorry, but yeah, it's a it's so it's getting there where she she's taking more control of this. So and this is where again that that that that one was a step up. Now this is coming to another step up. Sorry you had a question.

No, I was just gonna be before we move past the animal sacrifice, not that I want to dwell on it, but.

What was just were there any dogs involved here? Maybe German shepherds.

No, from what I heard, it was chickens. It wasn't anything too crazy, so it was chickens. Could have been out of their animals, of course, of course I've heard chickens. That is all that I've read that I've done research on, and that's all I've gotten out.

I mean, shepherds do come up a lot, though I noticed.

There was a lot of German shepherds getting off to Mexico around those times. Well, you know, again like at least a point element south.

Of there in the Yucatan.

But nonetheless, well, I just even like with uh that that's associated with Go Go Beach. You know, Joe Biden's dog that kept biting people the whole time. He was a German shepherd. You do hear about German shepherd dog.

They would have had to have been brought in because German shepherds are not indigenous to.

Yeah, exactly, especially that specific area too. I would not assume that they'd have any German shepherds. Maybe some local uh, maybe some local dogs that are just.

Yeah, I think dogs dogs.

Acervice in general is interesting because it does seem to you know, circle around colts on numerous gunents.

Mmm mm hmmmm hmm.

I agree with you on that one. They I think there was some dogs in the a dog Focuns Sonzo stuff. I'm pretty sure there was some dogs with.

That madam the Madam Morris one. Yeah, some dogs up there.

Yeah. Anyways, ry no, no worries, no worries. I like conversation that. I enjoy that. So at this point again, they started hitting a point where some of the villagers a couple of the villagers were starting to like a little bit of dissent was happening, you know, except of the villagers were just like, I'm not buying this. I'm not into this, you know, big sex, orgies and this blood drinking and everything. So so they're like they're questioning

Yes she did. Yes, That's why I think she she started believing in this shit, because it's like you just took it to a homicidal place. And that's why I think, like this is me being my spiritual self and not my conspiracy self. When you do these things, I think you can invite like dark spirits to come into you. And I think that she probably was getting into some stuff. She had no idea how powerful it actually was. Maybe like this story is like, oh, you know, she she

Well it's like blood, sex, magic, right right, yeah.

And the orgies and the weird. Like you gotta think like this this started as a pretend thing, and now it's like a real thing, Like they've brought it into the physical plane.

Like exactly tough, and now like think of it, like, what a way to control the village. Now, you know, you just murdered one of them for being a disbeliever, and in front of everyone.

I was going to ask, do you think he was really a disbeliever? Do you think they were like, you know, we're just going to kill one person to prove a point, to scare everybody.

No, it was definitely disbelieved. There was two men that were being these that were disbelieved. Now it's uncertain that they killed one or two. I'm leaning more to that it was only one. But you know, all you have to do is killed one and the other one is going to fall right in line. You're not going to get any dissent at that point. Yeah, yeah, that is great control, right, and so, and at this point she had taken over the cult completely and the brothers happily

One thing I do. Go ahead, go ahead, really.

Well, this is this is a real goddess though, this is a real.

Yeah, I believe.

Yeah, she she's I think the goddess which in Mashika or sex lor they believe snakes are life because you know, when you open someone up, all you see is snakes like intestines and blood vessels and whatever, and they believe that there is a bilgal cord.

That connects all of the heavens. So I believe was the goddess of the snakes.

And if I'm not mistaken, I think she was like their mantusa or something like that, because what have you.

She likes of the thing that we did.

Sorry, she's like the feminized version of like quetsoquadal, Yes, because the name is so similar, and that's like a masculine deity. But so okay, all right, So think about all this sacrifices and ship she's doing in the name of a very real deity.

Like of course, and she was so Yeah, she was considered the mother of the gods, the goddess of earth, nature, fertility, life, and death. So she was a the main goddess if you want to go, if you want to go there, So she was the goddess. So if you're gonna if you're going to be a goddess and portray a goddess, that's the one to portray.

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Yeah, I wonder who taught her how to mix the you know, to mix the paodian with the blood, you know, to give the appearance of some sort of mystical power. I'm sure over her followers you know that maybe that's an enterprising con man tactic.

I don't know. It just seems like someone may have taught her that.

Have you guys read The Cosmic Serpent? Anybody know?

But it's in my queue, dude, I'm.

Reading it right now. And JJ just mentioned something that's totally in the Cosmic Serpent about how how did ancients understand how to create ayahuasca? Out of eighty thousand Amazonian plants, they the two plants like the hallucinogenic and the one that shuts off the receptors in your stomach so you didn't pew get back up like they chose. Out of eighty thousand plants they chose. It's just like divinely inspired, they say.

So.

So I spoke to.

In Peru when I went down there, and they said, God is very kind to the to the innocent mind that seeks his knowledge. And he says that they that they walk with the spirits, at least the shamans do, and that the spirits reveal to them what it is, but that they go into the forest and that they fast or whatever, and that the that the plants come alive and tell them how to you. Again, I'm just you know, repeating what I heard and.

So, but that's but that's such a good point because it's like, how far into this did she really get? Because I think like there's a level of psychopathy, but they at the same time like she was actually doing like real stuff to bring about like real results well seen in the blood and doing all the in the like dude.

For real, she could have opened if she was doing taro, then I would think that she was very much into that whole side of the arts.

Yeah, she's already into the dabbling in what she's in the occult, right, she would be.

Very much into the whole what do you call.

Them whatever and all about that, reading the iris, reading the cards, reading your tea leaves a whole bit.

Yeah, So is this like a normal Tarot system she was subscribing to, or is this like a Mexican only Tarot system where we talking her.

That I don't know, I would assume would be just the regular taro. I don't know if there was any other ones in around.

The one thing I do want to, I guess ask or bring up again now this whole because I am trying to like, I'm just wondering, like, what's the even the best benefit of this. So now the whole reason that this even started, and and now they still like kind of just going along with like a free ride and tons of sex, like like because that seems to be the only reason why they're still continuing. This is from the beginning, the idea of like, oh, we could just get laid and live here for free.

Yeah, get get laid, live here for free, have all the food you want, and just be yeah, god right.

I don't know, it's just like that's it.

That's how it all started.

Give it. Honestly, Nick, It's like they wanted their own like kingdom. They wanted to be like kings of their kingdom. And like the way you control people is fear religion. You know that that the fear of death will get That would get me every time. It'd be like, oh dude, they're literally killing people now. I you know, at what point do you just kind of be like, this is really real, we should really listen to these people. And

I think ry you doing something on your show, and I think it fits perfectly to this question.

Is that here's this girl who was placed.

Into prostitution and she had absolutely no control in her life, and now here she stepped into a stage where everyone listened to everything she said and she now could have control. And so that I'm assuming is the ultimate high anyone can can want or perceive.

Sure, I actually agree. Yeah. So anybody who's in a position where you don't have any control and then you're almost gifted these powers, people get like drunk on that. They get drunk on power. And and I'm if you're into conspiracies and I'm sure you know when the COVID was around that you've seen all these people who never had had power before who are now gifted with all

You had dudes stocking shelves in the supermarket wearing an essential Worker shirt that thought they were.

All the weird nerds that like nobody gave a ship about. It became like your masters, yes, so weird shit, like you fucking work at Ross. Dude, Like, don't tell me I can't approach the cash register unless I'm like, are you's Ross?

Like you work at a store that's got arrows on the floor and you're following it?

What is that?

That's the first place I went into when they started that ship. I was like, this is fucking Ross, Like you guys sell birdhouses and where why are you telling me how to live my life? And it's just like they gave power to like the useless nerds of society. I'm telling you it just it's crazy. But that is

My opinion, Oh completely, completely, Yeah. The example I gave you was just a just a tip of the iceberg in comparison to this, you know, and it was and yeah, yeah, it's crazy, it is crazy. So I can continue if

So straight up tech. Yeah, that is like straight up as tech, like old school as tech. Ship. Where'd she get that idea from?

You know exactly? And you wonder was she does she actually know this? Or was this being channeled through her by some demon? But I'm with the ladder of those two things obviously, But I believe that there is some crossover in that in that area that you know, we start going a little bit supernatural. But and she believed, like the people believe that this granted them supernatural powers, which is just crazy now, but who's to say that it didn't. You know, Like I'm almost thinking I'm going

You know what the problem is, you know, like you know how I mean this is just because I know of things that I've seen in movies and who knows, like if you already know the timing and stuff and

Those people were killing people until the eclipse ended our team. Now, if you know one's coming, you could play off that, Like did she use things that she could even even have played off to even make these people think that she was legit.

That much more? And I mean you really haven't met or anything, but who knows, you know, for but yeah, who truly knows. Not many people know those specifics of it. But I guess if we go back, you know, if you go back to the time period and you look at it, there probably was some maybe there was some solar solar activity going on or celestial activity that maybe they could have played with as well.

Does pioti get you fucked up?

Oh yeah?

Really so it's like tripping balls? Or is it like a mile more than acid?

More than ad?

But for me though, I I only did it, I mean once, maybe twice. I left my ass off though more than I did on acid or I mean, I told you.

It's a good time.

Do you feel like, oh yeah, piote is completely spiritual.

That is, that is definitely a spiritual if you mixed it with like a dead guy's blood and smoked it, like maybe they've Maybe that's why I'm saying, like maybe they did see stuff, and.

Like you know, absolutely I was looking at it, and I was looking at see if iron enhances the effects of mescaline. You know, that's a sense of psychoactive and I'm I'm pretty sure if I deep dive into it'll find something, But I don't know. I mean, because mescaline kind of acts on your norropenephrine epinephrine mechanism sympathetic and you know the heart rate will change and so your increasing temperatures.

Everything's like heightened, kind of like.

With LSD, everything's heightened, right, you become a cat you feel everything, you hear everything.

So I'm well, how about this one, Lisa, how about this one? You know how they're always talking about like adrenalized blood, you know, can get you high on its own. What if? What if they're they're murdering these people, they're scaring the shit out of them. They get them nice and adrenalized. They siphon off that adrenalized blood. Didn't they mix it with the peyote? They probably got the spirits coming out their asshole. Dude. That's why I think that they were really dabbling into some stuff.

The chugging this this uh you know, this psychoedemic blood, and you know they're gonna they can convince some of whatever. It just sounds like a massive Mexican MK culture type experiment.

That I'm right, That's what I was thinking.

It was the proto, the proto.

Yeah, she was.

She was like, Yo, Charles Manson ain't got ship on me.

You didn't have the good man. He was just dealing with that.

Cias like, I'm slicing next for this ship.

He has the generic ship. These guys are making. This is some homemade fucking concoctions and stuff. I'm I'm so intrigued. Right now, I cannot wait to hear how this ends.

Okay, sorry, sorry, no, no worries, no worries. Unfortunately it is coming to an end now. So this, this whole charade, I don't even call her charade anymore because it's it's past that, right. This is like this, this nightmare. It went on for about six weeks and now the the guestimate of how many people were killed were anywhere between six to fourteen. I know that's like a large you know, it could be like six to eight or which would be small, but they say anywhere between six to fourteen.

A woman scorned right, Hispanic woman. Oh, I'm sure, and.

Like I said, this is where it kind of all humul like comes to the climax of it all. So what now while this is happening, there was a fourteen year old boy named Sebastian Guerrero and he was out exploring near the village of Bwene. Somebody was saying he's exploring or he was just walking to another nearby village, and that nearby village was called what was it called? Again, I have this I should know this Uhila La Gran Okay. So that's where he was, That's where he was going

The police officer or the police.

Of the police officer and the boy, they disappeared because the boy had to go back to show him this. So the boy, you know, like, how brave was this kid to go back and this police officer went with them, so neither would be seen alive again.

That was it.

That was the last they saw, damn.

So they got a blood ritual on them too, yes, yes, And so the police went to go look for this other guy, right, and they found okay, yeah.

So following that then the police indvi La Grand they they realized that their inspector is not coming back, so they knew something was going on. They reached out and contacted Alberto Gomez. He was a police inspector in Monterrey, and with his help, they organized a police and military operation. Okay, because like they brought in a helicopter and everything, and they brought in like a couple of battalions of military men.

On like good behavior or anything, did they No?

And unfortunately, so unfortunately the trail runs cold as to what exactly happened to Magdalena, Like I can tell you what happened in courts and that. So, so what happened is the so they they took them to court and Magdalena was sentenced to fit. Magdalena and alas are alis Are were convicted of two murders and sentenced to fifty years in prison. Now, the villagers wouldn't testify against Magdalena because they were still terrified that we should do something

She didn't get let out though.

Right, No, no, Now, the so her and her brother got fifty years and the remaining cult members, including Haesus, were given thirty year sentences. Okay, And and the reason why they got thirty instead of fifties because there's considerations giving to their illiteracy and impoverished backgrounds. They felt sorry for them, but they they put everyone in jail like that was almost a life sentence for most of them. Now,

Yeah, suspect to me, like they let her ass out right or something about the studio?

You too, man, we had any of the details here, sounds like this might have been.

A large scale affair, like where are these folks?

It was?

It ended really arsenal from It ended really really fast, is from what I understand. It was over very quick. It wasn't a you know, I'm sure some of them had some rifles and that was it. So they said a shootout, but I'm assuming this a couple of them had rifles and the rest of them maybe had machetes and other tool implements to try to a good attack.

But they all because when you said shootout, I was thinking, well, they've already got peyoti and marijuana, they running drugs and second guns up.

Yeah, it was because that, Yeah, it was because of the cartel in the beginning. Who's who's to say that they didn't have any weapons left over from the cartel when the cartel was there. You know, they might have left some things.

They might have been the new owners of the cartail, right, new franchise owners of that operation.

Exactly.

I'm trying to think. Was it was it golf cartel that was still in power nineteen sixties in that area.

I don't know that.

I don't know.

Now.

It's so similar to a Dolpho, isn't it.

It is, thank you, thank you, very so similar.

And they let that guy go. I mean they faked, he faked his death and they let him go. And it's like they lost this girl in the system.

Are you she is?

Yeah, one, no one knows, No one knows where she No.

One knows because they fucking let her out, dude, for one hundred they let her out, or they didn't even the trial didn't even happen, and they didn't even you know what I mean.

It's like, I'm sure the trial happened, but they just shipped her in the I don't know, maybe she conjured up some some Aztec goddess ship.

Then she conjured up a government. I'm telling you, we got to look into it because he knows somebody, somebody knew.

Her, or maybe maybe there were some supernatural powers granted by the drinking of this and they brought her in to study her further.

Well, they could be studying the ship out of her. But she's somewhere and they let it. They let her ask go.

Or she, in my opinion, the oracle of a drug lord.

Something.

They love that ship. There's no way you're gonna let a cult leader like this go because if they let Adolpho go, why would they let her? Why would they put her up like she's got a whole ass you know, cult behind her death cult.

Yeah, yeah, that drinks the blood.

Now.

One thing to know about this is that there is so many stories out there. Trying to find the truth is extremely difficult because it you know, with legends and even conspiracies. You know, everybody adds into the pot and it gets so difficult to actually find the truth. And being in conspiracies, I'm sure you guys know that. You know the government will throw in three quarters of those

Wow.

So if you google it and you see this one picture, it's not that's not her. That's not her.

Right now, I'm already there.

Let me uh I had I had that open, but I'm gonna.

Yeah.

I remember hearing that on your show, and I went to go check and I did notice two different pictures. But there is one that it seemed to have a lot more.

Is there a big Is it a big fat lady in a pink dress?

No? No, so no sogdala. You'll see one where she's got like a lace top and a bow on her front. That's not that's a that is a Dagmar. That's Dagmar, okay. So the other one, yes, who has the mole, the one who has the mole is Magdalena Solas?

Yes, that is weird though if you were to like put in Magdalene and Sola's I have incident, and then in Google and I went over to images, you'll see, Yeah, it's public. I would say on my end, it's about half and half that is wild that you will see might actually be more of the other.

One.

That's exactly it. I agree. It's always about this confusion and misdirection to take you into a different way to when you're doing any type of research. You know, like I talk about that with like think about Walt Disney. You know, is Walt Disney frozen? Is his body croyogenantically frozen? Well, why don't you type in Walt Disney frozen and see what comes up? Oh, we got the cartoon frozen. You know,

Yeah.

They even did a I don't know if you watch this, but they did an American Dad episode on that about like I did not Disney being frozen in the theme park. And but anyways, let me just ask you your person opinion. I don't know where you were ade on the conspiracy stream. But are you more spiritual with this?

Oh?

Us too? But like if you had to look at it from like a spiritual perspective, if you had to look at it from you know, they've added spices to this, and maybe some of it is you know, just made up. Like what what do you think about all of it?

Well, bottom line is that there was some people who went off the rails after drinking blood. I believe that blood drinking happened for sure. Okay we human drug blood drinking. Yeah, I think that happened as well. Whether it came down to the actual heart coming up, there is stories about that, and they did have the mutilated bodies. But I believe that a lot of this legitimately happened. To what degree was it fantasized and escalated and made a lot more

I yeah, I would agree with you on that. It kind of reminds me of did you ever watch the movie The Mist Stephen King?

I know the movie, but I have not watched it.

It's basically like if you get a small group of people together. There was one superligious lady who ended up like saying, you know, oh, we got we got to make the grave sacrifices, right, you know what I'm talking about Nick, and it always comes. It always ends up in like blood sacrifices because there were these monster things outside of this grocery store that lived in the mist

Time, like, and your blood sacrifices will lock all the old people in the old Folks Home. Got this COVID here?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Crazy.

I will say that the type of activity with the killing and the mutilation and the ritualized dismemberment and something it and not not that I'm trying to normalize it, but it is common among cartels. I mean, I think in some respects, I think people had even said that the that the ritual killings of cartels was worse than isis.

And I think somebody.

I'll even go off and speculate that they had said, what, you know, what do you think is happening?

And they said, well, I.

Think the the people, the asset people have come back right to reclaim and because of the type of stylized killing, the type of stylized whatever. And so when you hear about things like this with Mantdalna, you hear about adultfo you hear about these things, it's almost like like lockstep. You know that it's just a continuation of what was happening back then. But it is very unusual that she

Dude, I'm leaning that way.

To the east side, and you're going to try it on some higher level people.

I don't know.

Well, it's it's like I've been saying this recently, and I just I feel like it fits this because we can speculate, right, and they'll call it like you're speculating, you know, you're adding stuff that we can't verify. But they there has been such a concerted effort to get us to not believe our own eyes and not being able to put clues together and like not be able to take like storylines and infer detail, Like you're giving me this story, right, and you want me not to

What, because this one has been covered up greatly. Like my my brother in law, he's a Mexican and he is into all of this kind of dark conspiracy stuff, you know, like these things specifically, he had no idea, He had no idea. The only person who I talked to from this area who knew anything was a thirteen year old boy who loves history. He is he just you know, takes in any and all history, and he's the only one who knew about it. No one else had any idea about this at all.

And it's like, do these people not have families? Like does Magdalene? It was just her brother, like no family members, No, like, well, brother if her.

Brother's pimping are out at twelve years old, you know, I'm I'm thinking the family really wasn't there or around as much.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're probably right about that.

And I'm not surprised she get lost in the system there in prison, because this lady's clearly and I asked that she's very effective at what she was doing.

Yes, or she convinced someone, or she was able to convince someone, you know, to to take her in, you know, like some sort of public official. She was able to convince a lot of Yeah.

Not just the prostitution ones.

The prison system in Mexico is is a very loose system, correct, It's I think the rumor was that in the prison systems in Mexico, you could you know, show up on the weekends or show up every other day, or do you know you had all kinds of luxuries in the prison system.

Correct me if I'm wrong, But.

I believe the luxuries. I'm not sure about showing up though, And like.

When I was, I was trying to be loose about it, but yeah, real real quick.

When I was, I did hear from a lot of dudes, when I believe it or not. When I was in federal prison, there was actually a fuck ton of people waiting to get deported. Believe it, there is a ton of people wasting up space in prison actually that are not here legally. And they oh, it was so many it was ridiculous. I hate to say, but if they had brown skin in federal prison, it was like odds are it was cocaine or you're really illegal re entry.

There?

Yeah, they wait years to even get fucking sent home.

It's ridiculous. Yeah.

Fuck, I forgot where I was going, but I saw I was able to talk to a lot of dudes I actually did time in Mexican prison, and they'll be The thing is is that a lot of them it was already their second or third time too, which is really interesting. And like sometimes when you go back you will have to do time in your own, you know, good country. And they were saying, for a fact is that if you have money and you end up in Mexican prison, you will live a completely different life than

They'll bring in stuff as well that it definitely hurts.

Yeah, hey, guys told me that that They definitely I mean again, that whole thing was not going to wall down. I don't know about that, but like that does sound extreme, But I've had multiple people tell me that, like sex in food is still an option while you're in that prison.

Well, is it just for rich people or yeah?

Right?

Is it just who you know though?

Too, because like they said, you just got to have money.

Stories Actually I haven't heard stories I read in program to Kill some of these programmed like CIA serial killers, they get the most luxurious treatment when they're even even on death row, like John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, they all got like this super luxurious treatment while they were locked up, and it's like, is it who you know

Maybe they got that was definitely one like one of my my questions is you know, did she keep up this facade or his belief that she was this god?

I was like, is she still portraying this in jail? Is she like kicking back, drinking blood, still like paying off the guards.

Let's say you believed it so hard, I'm sure you could convince people in jail that you were this person, you know, and then you're going to start getting people to to uh to follow suit, because I'm assuming if you're going to a woman's federal penitentiary. You know, there's not the education level is going to be quite low there, and you're just going to keep applying your trade.

And she's already a lesibo, so it's like paradise for her plenty of.

But even if even if she was wasn't able to convince him of God, I would think that she would have at least some sort of Bruhidia tactics or tools and would somehow convince people, even in prison, of like, oh you want this person to I don't lose their hair. I mean, you want this person to like belly over whatever. You know, let me, let me show you a few things and then just right away you can get people on your side.

I mean, I don't know.

I just can't believe this lady's said in prison. I mean, I understand the systems of a different there, but she just to me, she seems like she has too many skill sets, you know, and compare comparatively speaking, like, I don't think Charles Manson ever went to prison.

It's kind of a different story since you see videos of men.

I don't think he in prison, but he's never following the the penal coat standards of hair length and beard length and et cetera.

So I've noticed that too.

To the note of preferential treatment is his right hand man, Bobby Bosley, was somehow able to record a soundtrack to a Kenneth Anger film while in prison.

See this is the ship I'm talking about. It's all who you know? And like did they even go to jail? That's another question for me, is like did they even go to jail?

Dude?

Like it's I have not gone down.

You gotta you gotta have us on your show. We will.

Open since opened some minds. Hell yeah, did you guys?

See they're putting Chaos on Netflix. Dude, I can't wait for that.

Wow.

Okay, I don't have a I don't have a lot of not very optimistic about it, you know.

He uh went.

For example, when Tom Neil introduced the project, he did it on Rick Rubin's podcast, and then they got into this offhanded tangent of how they both didn't know anything about the process despite Tom's twenty year researching to Manson and Rick Rubbin literally producing an album called The Process based upon the Process Church theology. But they both played these games and we don't we don't know what the

Well, you know what I always say, as soon as a documentary hits HBO or Netflix, you can count on it being one dog shit, fucking propaganda bull that no actual facts at all. Like watch him come out with a documentary on Magdalene as Sole. You watch it and you think it's all just a bunch into like hate grey degree doc bullshit that they put in all HBO Netflix documentaries. I mean, all they have to have, like I always say, is good background music, a couple of

It's like.

That's what I was gonna Yeah, is there not that I know?

No, it's not a wild now. You know, when you're talking about those terrible documentaries, you know, like the MH three seventy, the Malaysian airlines that went missing, the documentary they had on Netflix, you know, it's like we're just gonna go here and leave it at this we're not gonna go actually fully into full like everything, and they leave you believing that this was all is all possible, like it just crashed. That's it.

Nothing more right, a fire event or something.

Like that, and it just cra you know. I do believe there was a fire event. I do believe there with that H three seventy that there was a fire event.

There was a fire event. But it's not. It wasn't what they're making it out to be. Because well, let me just tell you this. I almost got to chills when you said that, because I've been researching it and I'm actually thinking it's more like I heard a guy talking about it. I think it was on the Confessionals podcast, but he's Forbes. Yeah, oh my god. The guy's got it nailed with like the physics and everything, like they disappeared that motherfucker, like the Bermuda triangle.

So just recently he was on Candice Owens and he goes, yeah, much more detail, and he's amazing. I talked to him after he was on the Confessionals. I was trying to get him on my show. I never I never followed through well that actually, that was the point where I was I had another show and I had a co host, and I ended that relationship and I started my own show, and I never followed up with Ash, and I should have at that time, because now he's I think he's almost too big for me to get on at this

All the way to like he found the CIA guy and everything on that. I mean, but I'm glad that you know about that because it makes me think you're on the level with like the conspiracy stuff. Because even with stuff like the True crime I always say, if you look hard enough at true crime, you'll see remnants of conspiracy in there. I mean, it's like military connections, government connections. Which is why I asked you right in the beginning of this episode, like these brothers, like what

It just when you're talking, I really believe that mk Ultra plays a much bigger role than we really believe, you know, because mk Aultra was the mixing of drugs with the mixing of drugs and psychedelics to to implant messages into people. Right, So with all these medications that people are taking now, like like candy now these days, you know, and with everything that's on TV, I'm sure that they're implanting a ton of messages into these people. And I believe that MK ultra is much bigger than

I think it's still going on for sure.

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well there's an example of it going on in and around Mexico. In recent years.

The Nexium cult was shipping kids to and from Albany, New York on their locations to child farms in Mexico. They were employing a neurologist up there in Albany to do a lot of the training for their membership.

He was running the Finders Club.

Finders Club was running kids in and out of Mexico.

Dude, you know, I was thinking about that, I swear to god, I was thinking about that because I do find it interesting how this is two dudes and I remember the Finders I think, well, it seemed to base on in court if I remember correctly, it was two guys again and it's just like I'm like, yo, like, is there like an operation behind this? And these are just like the faces like kind of like the run, you know, the running it.

We need to take a closer look at these Hernandez brothers. I bet they both got their dick sweat in some kind of a government CIA type you know, they you know, they had to do it.

And the backstory, you know what, Like the more you talk about this, like I didn't approach it like that, but the more you talk about it, I'm like, yeah, like why not you know, like knowing the right to you know, uh, you're but buena to give people. You know, it's kind of like, yeah, we're going to drug you up and then put these suggestions into you. And it's it's interesting, you know, like they just the backstory, they're hands brothers, They're just these lifelong career scam artists. Could

Want to recruit those exactly, JJ, You're fucking on fire. That's exactly what I was gonna say. You'd want to recruit people that are lifelong scam.

Artists, dam artists.

They're just gonna say it was a lifelong scam artist, dude. That's those are the perfect people. Okay, let's let's talk like logically, I'm gonna start a cult tomorrow. All of you assholes are part of my cult. We're going to start a cold tomorrow.

I am doing the drinking.

Where Okay, let's just think about it. Where can we go right now? That you all know that's got no electricity, no form of religion, no like they just need it.

Sounds like how did they know?

How did they do back then?

Right?

They know? It's like this, this ship is always guided, it's always manipulated. It's like, oh, these two brothers stumbled upon this place with no form.

Here's something to add to that. Here's something to add to that. So prior was you know, the the the cartel was in there, right, and they got ran out by the federalies. The federalllies were there to remove them, right, So the federllies already had scoped this place. Is kind of what what we're if you're going with that. They were there already, They seen this place, they see maybe the potential for this.

Oh yeah they did, and they maybe they let him let them know, like they gave them a leg up on it, and they just you know, hey, there's this place and they don't have a last I feel like you were going to say something earlier.

No, yeah, just a couple of things.

What I was going to add to the conspiracy lore that we're espousing now. I looked at Magdalena really quickly on Wikipedia. I don't know if it's true, but it says that she was born in nineteen forty seven. I was like, what if she's the moon child?

Why pars? Oh god, I'm just kidding. Okay.

So the other thing I was going to say is really was born in forty seven? But that's yeah, now.

You're Nazis in Mexican for yes.

They were.

And so did any of the village people say anything, like did they were?

They questioned?

I mean so the village the village people, Uh, well yeah, they they kept quiet. They would not testify. They just took their lumps and went went to prison. They would not.

Was it like Manson? And they fucking washed those bitches And they didn't have any fucking memory of this shit. Like what if they didn't what if they couldn't tell anything because they didn't remember it? Like I'm just I'm going like above and beyond at this point because something like this doesn't break loose and they're not be like strings being pulled in some capacity. It's like they got all these assholes in there and they like did like men in black and you don't remember or anything, and

Who.

Like, It's it's so easy for them to totally wipe you of that stuff. I almost think that they do it to us on a daily basis. How many people do you know right now?

Who?

If you ask them, they're like, damn, doesn't it feel like COVID was forever ago and we've gotten so used to like getting back to normal life. It's like it never happened. It's like, dude, no, let's always remember that shit because it wasn't forever. It was like in our recent past, like within five years, and we we you know remember, yeah right, you know.

So I will never forget that bullshit that they tried to putting on me now, and I'll never forget the people, including my family, who disowned me almost because of it.

All oh one hundred.

That's the I know. I probably all you guys all have experienced that where it was you know, out.

Yeah, a little surprised. There's no kool aid. And in the end of the story with these village people, no.

Right, the kool aid was a blund you know what I'm.

Saying, But get rid of all. The eye could even be questioned, right, you know what I mean.

See see Jim Jones, what's your name is?

Sam Magdalena. She he ain't got shoot on Jim Jones. She went for the real dude, Jim Jones passing around kool aid. That's that's what it's about. She went for the hard stuff.

It is a surprising that, I mean, it could speak to this stranglehole this lady had on the mentally speaking under my control.

But like you know, surprising.

None of these village folks said a damn word, or at least you know, probably seems like they said a damn word.

It sounds like, That's what I'm saying.

It's weird that they didn't say anything, or the kids or somebody you know, said something.

Unless they got fucking wiped, dude, unless they got wiped for somehow the other.

Way, Every every member of the village was put into prison for thirty years.

That's plenty enough time to do you've.

Limited and which which brings a question like you've eliminated everybody for thirty years? How did that?

How did you think about it?

Yeah?

And how did that?

That's a full on sanitation effort.

That's a good way just to clean out subjects all town. What if there was something there that they actually wanted?

Yeah, but it's like risa, like how did the legend survive? How did the how did the town survive?

As well? You know if you remove everyone, because you go there and you can search it, you can find your but Buena and San Luis Potosi, it is it. It's bigger now, you know, it's growing. So that was sixty three. What did they resettle it? Did they bring in people from outside? Like, hey, look at free houses here you go. You know, no one's living there for thirty years because everybody was taken out, So I don't know. They don't talk about children though, so that that that's

Of people that were brought into harvest, you know, like day workers, but they just kept them there because they were going to be you know, harvesters or what do you call the coal such I don't remember whatever, anyway, you know what I'm talking about. And so therefore you wouldn't need children or you couldn't sustain children, right, it would only be the people that could work.

And so therefore you I mean, I don't know, I'm spec.

That's scientology, is added Toude.

That's why they have children farms in Mexico because the kids in orn ay Go, they's got to have the adults work and stuff. So you know, maybe it's a new cartel or cult and moved into town. The old cartel moved out, this cult moved in. Maybe they got another one coming through.

Well, what it's the time gap between this death cult and Adolpho's death cult, because it's like, is this the footprint that they followed for like so twenty years?

But I thought it was in the eighties adulphos.

So the in program to kill. And it actually ties back to Jonestown too, because Henry Lee Lucas said he knew Jim Jones that that cult was part of like a CIA mind control type thing with Jonestown. He also said there were many death cults in Mexico. He xed them out on a map and was like, here's one, here's one. Look, here there's another one. And they were like,

True.

Yeah, I think the time frame between the Matamorris colt and this cult and the you know, the you know, you know, the timeframe and the geographic you know, relatively close geographically speaking, there's probably you know, more questions need to be asked there because they Matamores folks may have been you know, outed in the early eighties and rest and whatnot.

But that certainly existed there.

Prior to that, right, right?

Yeah, Like how many years was that going on before they actually started like going to look for it?

Yeah?

I mean, well, it's enough in proximity for for certainly to ask that question.

And do these do these things have connections?

Mm hmmm, I don't know, dude. Question seems all fucking suss to me. Nobody joined a death cult anybody like hopefully but anytime. See, yes, right, they listen to the occult rejects and they know a thing or two. I'll start a cult.

You can join my cult. Kool Aid? What kind of kolid are you serving?

Great drink? Yeah, that's great.

Gotta have that red solo.

Yeah.

No, actually I'm gonna I'm gonna up it and I'm gonna do kool Aid pickles. You guys will love it. Have you ever had a kool Aid pickle?

No?

That could be the worst thing I've ever had, or it could be the amazing thing. I don't know.

They're right.

I had it at a restaurant one time. They were like, do you want to try kool aid pickle? I was like, it could be sweet and salty, you know, like it's a pickle, but it's been like fermented in kool Aid, So let's give it a try. Absolutely not, don't fucking ever do that, guys, that road.

But the question is what kool aid did they use? Because kool Aid, of course there is. Is it cherry or was it rape?

Maybe lemon? Lime?

I bet if I now I'm going to google it. I bet it's a Hawaiian punch, punch to the kidney.

I think it was Soundic or one of those restaurants that did a pickle ice creams. Maybe this is a recent pickle fat that you you ran across with the pickled kool Aid.

What if it was just a big campaign for kool Aid, it could have been Oh dude, shut the fuck up. It was great. It was literally great.

Grapest grape is solid, you know there's I'm a fan of grape.

Yeah, but I don't know about grape of pickle?

Right, yeah, it doesn't mix well pickle?

Yeah, great, assholes, you guys, it says right here. I googled it, so it must be true. They didn't even use kool Aid brand kool Aid. They used flavor Aid.

I knew it.

That's why it was crape.

Let's just say they didn't even put poison in it and it they just drink this fucking flavor aid and it just killed them off immediately. We don't know that that's some toxic ship right there. We don't even know what's in that.

Like they could have they could have used tang, you know.

But.

They can't even get the right stuff.

Come on, no, this is from Save a lot. They didn't even they didn't even ball out on a budget and like get named brand they were.

They went to freaking Get one or something like that, you know.

Ten cent packets. Oh my god, look at this, Look at this. I'm offended by this.

I actually love that marketing. I love that. Uh that looks actually pretty cool.

We got to click on the grape one though. There you go. That's what killed all the people in Jonestown, right there, flavor everyone. Henry Lee Lucas did say that he knew Jim Jones and that Jim Jones was just part of his c I a big mind control thing, that it was just another project they were working on. There was another death cult out of I think it was Japan. It was called the Doomsday Cult, and they took sar and nerve gas on trains, and they were

If you tell the FBI your trends, they'll just give all that to you.

There you go, starting a trans group.

I said.

Magdalena was was probably secretly trained. That's why she had a thing for Selena. She was trying to stick her.

Oh not like her. Oh that's that's that's awesome.

I don't know, I don't know it up.

She's a fucking asshole. Though if this story isn't even conspiratorial, I still think she's a fucking asshole. It's really interesting. I had never heard it before. It blew my mind. Actually, I'm so glad you researched this topic because it's crazy.

You know, I don't want to give a shout out to Blaze. I'll definitely give a shout out to Blaze, you know, with his with his comic book, and yeah, he's doing a kickstarter for that and it's fantastic, awesome.

Yeah, I'll include a link for that. And I think I can say this for all of us here, well even Rye. Probably at this point, I do think there's something questionable about this whole case. You know, this doesn't seem to be much I guess to talk about, and I don't know, just because of other situations in the past. They do wonder was there some sort of three letter agency involvement or some structure to it a little bit more than we knew about. But thank you, yeah, but

JJ, Van says to Operations GCD, Nick, appreciate the invite, Lisa Joy it great, great conversation, Ry, Great to meet you, and this is a very intriguing tale. I definitely got my wheels turning on a number of these topics. Here to look again too, more for sure cool.

Thank you very much, JJ and Julia real quick, let everybody know where they can find your amazing sh as well.

Thank you. I am the host of Cosmic Peach podcasts. It's available wherever you listen to podcasts. And great to meet you, Ry. I love someone who can present a topic start to finish like you do. It's really entertaining and I it's it's a skill not a lot of people have actually, and I admire that. But thanks for having me on, Nick. This was a great conversation. I learned a lot and I'm looking forward to coming on again.

As soon as I saw the actual number right.

Yes, yes as an occult reject.

Yes, like I said, as soon as I really kind of started listening to it, I was like I know Julie would be into this. It sounds so much like Adulfo, like I really thought. Yeah, I was thinking about that a lot. And Lisa, thank you so much for coming on. I really appreciate it. Yes, is there anything that you want to plug?

Sure?

Yes, thank you everybody, Thank you, Ry.

I really really enjoyed this story and like everybody said, contributed definitely something totally suspect. And I do agree with Nick that the Alphabet Boys are probably somehow.

Somewhere not too far away from any of this.

But I would like to plug our website.

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Dot org and we have a lot of contributors that contribute written pieces.

So if you are more of a reader.

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Awesome, Thank you so much. I appreciate that. And Roy, let everybody know they can find your amazing work again.

First of all, I just want to say thanks for having me on this was This is fantastic and you guys are all welcoming and it's nice to be in a similar crowd, you know, of everyone who has the same like minded who understands what's going on in questions everything. That's what I say is we have to question everything that you know, It's been crazy that these last couple of years or five six years, you know, we are frowned upon and made fun of for researching and looking

You definitely go check out here show like again, like I said before, tons and tons of different types of topics, you know, and yeah, true crime, cult, paranormal, bigfoot, Jack the Ripper, you know, great stuff. Uh yeah, and again, thank you all for coming on. I really appreciate it. That was an awesome chat. And again, this is a really really weird one and you don't hear too many people talking about it, so I wanted to cover it.