Thomas Sheridan & Labyrinth of the Psychopath

Before we introduce him, I will introduce all the other occult rejects. Lisa, what is going on? The occult reject mad Scientist.

lot of stuff over there. I'm on Twitter at gray pill, pod, Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, all all that good stuff. So yeah, Nick, thank you for having me on.

am now. And yeah, so i'mking. You know, there's a lot off I put a lot of stuff out over the last fourteen or so years, and so there's a you know, if you want to go dig and you'll probably be digging forever. I really need like an archivist or something you can compile at all. But you know, I'll probably have one I'm dead or something.

I was reading down sweetly novels. And I read Conway's book on the Occult Primer, The Magical Primer when I was about ten, and I did one of the workings in it and it happened at worked, it actually came the past, and it became very frightened because I didn't you know, it was like, you know, it's one of those things you do as a kid that you don't think it's going to happen, and it happens and you

suddenly have you get frightened by it. So I stayed away from that for a little while, but it was still very interest in him, and I used to have a bicycle and I used to cycle out outside the city and go for his ancient sites. But I had a find of fascination with things like round towers and megalits and stuff like that. On top of all that trying to go through school, the normal day to day things and playing music. I was in a couple of bands and that kind of thing. So I was basically

typical of my generation. I was born in the mid late sixties, so I was like, you know, we had it was a very good time to be a young person. Even in Ireland in the nineteen eighties. There was tremendous opportunities to do everything kind of thing you wanted in terms of exploring your mind and stuff, and so that led to one thing. And so I'm very interested in the cult, very much, so very interested in things, say the American writer HB. Lovecraft, and that a deep studied,

long term study of that. I'd made a documentary about him, and I've been to the New England many many times and visited those locations and it's almost like he's an obsession for me. Yeah, I'm interested in the crossover period between when Christianity ended and when pagan has ended and Christianity began, and that mysterious part of history that Gray Area wrote a book about it called The Truth Code.

I've written book about the Round Towers of Ireland. They've written a book on the occult called Sorcery, wrote two books on psychopathy and one online control and that's basically it. So yeah, I know it sounds kind of the diverse, but even the psychopathic thing that came out of accult

kind of thing as well. You know, there is a spirit I would say, well, a spiritual dimension to that is very powerful, and I wanted to be the first person to address that outside the Abrahamic framework of you know, you know, I'm a Christian and they're all evil. I didn't want to go I wasn't. I'm not a Christian, a pagan. I'm actually in an European pagan. So that's where puzzling People came from. Now the book is fourteen years old. Now I'm not something like that twelve years old,

and it still sells fairly well. I still get my royalty checks from the publishers and they, you know, I'm surprised that it's like, you know, it's enough to pay a few bills and you know, some extra beer money, that kind of thing. And I've kept the publisher happy. I'm I'm the same publisher. So I thought it. I thought like when the book came out, I thought like, yeah, I get a bit of a blaster from it. I think it sold nearly two hundred thousand copies at this point,

and it was very trimendously successful. And you know, this is over, this is over twelve years now, you know, you know, so it sounds good. If I got that in one year, it'd be like I wouldn't be living here. It's doing really well, but you know, we'd spread over that. It always sounds amazing, and then you realize, you know, it built the same amount of money to make if I was working in a supermarket part time. You know. But anyway, I was the right one, too obsessive. That

would I'd been like that. It reached so many people, helped so many people. How it came about was I was working as a graphic designer and corporate communications guy in Goldman Sachs on Wall Street. This would be mid eighties. I wasn't the money guy. I was a communications and marketing kind of guy and very much liked the job and like the people there. But there were certain individuals there they did work in the international financing thing that

there was something up right with them. Now I couldn't quite put the finger on it. They were very glib, very vacuous. They didn't really have the sense of humor I had, And when they tried to impress me, they knew I had a kind of surreal sense of humor, which I do, you know, very much. So that's part

of the sort of chaos, magic world discordia. I was like that came out of so, you know, I found that, like, you know, you can always tell a person by your sense how to erect your sense of humor, you know, they you know, there's a tremendous tool that So these these people would try to impress me with things, and I was like, you really don't understand me at all, do you you know, Like it was almost like they saw me as a pastiche of a stereotype or something

of what they wanted me to be. But I also saw how cold and aggressed that they could be and manipulative, particularly around you know, people that they were using. So just you know, the gods were in alignment at the time, and I was reading books about site about serial killers. I took an interest in serial killers around that time because I had a friend who used to live next

door to John Liszt. He was a serial killer that was in New Jersey that had actually run away and America's Most Wanted had made a reconstruction of his face at how he'd looked all these decades later and they actual didn't have them. And this guy had worked with Tommy, you know, John. This was a serial killer who was also the bogeyman in the town that we lived in. So it became kind of interesting, kind of think of cultic,

like the Jackal Ripper kind of thing. There's a spiritual as well as a kind of a crime element to it. So I was reading books about like Ted Dundy and David Yallops Delivers from Evil, which is about the Yorkshire Ripper in England and which he correctly identified that there was somebody helping him that was almost certainly celebrity or someone famous because the government and the police were protecting them. That turned out later to be Jimmy Saville, the famous

notorious pedophile and sex freaker from the BBC. So I was reading this stuff at the time, and I was I was reading the profiling of serial Killers by by you know, criminal psychologists and stuff like that, and I'm reading the profile and I'm looking at this fucker I'm working with, and I'm looking at the profile, and I'm going, that's him, that's that's him, that's exactly him, exactly. He

doesn't kill. He doesn't the glibness, the superficiality, the manipulation, the dead eyed stare when he'd asked me for something and I didn't have it, the eyes and flaming like going like this, you know, and you know when he when he and then say suddenly, no, I don't worry

about him again. It's sorted, and they go, great, let's go and get drunk, you know, and not feeling completely comfortable around him, you know, that kind of thing, like you knew you'd never been you never want to like be mates with him, really, you know, that kind of thing. And so then I started. There was almost nothing. This

was mid nineties. There was like the books like People of the Lie, you know, it was Hervey Klewoodley's books on on psychopathy, but they were they were not right and then later on, Robert Harre came out from the University of British Columbia and WASSM is his checklist that actually gave you an insight into him and his work was amazing because he referred to them as intra species predators, and I was like, that's it, that's it. There's there's

something un human about them. And then that started me on a huge just interest, just like for myself, like nerdy, you know, interesting this stuff. And because I was like and I was reading, I was like, holy shit, I wish I knew this when I was leaving school. I wish I knew this when I was twenty two. I wish I knew this when I was forty. And this explains that guy, this explains who, this explains this person.

How Come I don't know this valuable information that would have made my life significantly less difficult when I was trying to make my way through life as a young lad coming into adulthood, and I would have realized, right, or they what I was dealing with and how to deal with them. Well, you know, they weren't people who could actually reach or communicate with or you know, change or anything like that. And so I started making videos about fourteen fifteen years ago on YouTube and shoe YouTube.

Force came out in the back room there on my laptop called Labyrinth to the Psychopath and I started just as a kind of again a nerdy, geeky you know, thing to share while they blew up. They suddenly got loads of hits. And then this the publisher of the book Puzzling People, saw the videos and said, you've got to write a book on this, and we've got to put it.

so it's the steam roll at that point out. But it was always amazing how people always have the same you know, Thomas, you nailed those perfect that my ex husband perfectly, You nailed my ex boss, you nailed the neighbor next door perfectly, and I said, no, they've all We've always known this. And then I almost had a conspiratorial aspect to it, that they were delibery keeping it

from us. I think that was true. I think people would have seen short of liked of Bill Gates and Fouci and a almost a lot easier and quicker and people like that, and Tony Blair in particular. Now that caused me problems because in twenty twelve I did a conference in England and it was withdd Do you remember what was his name, the guy who wrote the book Confessions of the Wall Street Guy, Confession of an Economic hit Man. I was on tour with him, I forget

his name. And there was a big audience in a high profile place in central London that was being broadcast and I said that Tony Blair shows all the classic you know, makings of a psychopathy, has them all and I was tailed. I was by m I five, I was, you know, had all kinds of spooks from cults sent after me and everything because and then it was in tremendous education because I realized how the world really worked and this kind of thing. And so that was the

dark side of it, but that eventually went down. But yeah, there's a it's a very it's a very interesting subject and it's something now i've kind of not having shunned it in the last decade, but I kind of put it to one side. But as from the COVID on the whole COVID experience back on, and seeing the behavior of politicians and bureaucrats, the civil servants and how they were salivating locking us down and all this stuff and smirks on their faces, it started to ferment again into

my conscious so I started revisiting this work. So that's basically the story of how I came up with that and how that developed purly by accident, purely as an interest that was trying to help myself. And I mean, I get still this day. I still got lots of emails and people all over the world saying you saved my life. I people got in the street all the time where I go in the world, like you know, and it's like it's remarkable, you know, it's it's it's

it's it's like this. I mean, people always say to me, you popularize the term gas lighting because no one was using until it was very rare and very hidden, and as you started popularizing it on the Internet and suddenly it shows up on TV shows and all that. And I was in contacted by Hollywood people and stuff like that in the early days, but I never answered them or never had anything to do with them or anything.

But so it's it's it wheedled a swing into the zeitgeist, you know, and now everyone uses the term even like Trump, and everyone uses the term gas lighting. And so I think I did have a kind of a soft impact on Western culture, not in any kind of great spectacular way. I wasn't particularly original, but I think I have a good kind of because I'm just a regular fellow, you know, just a regular artist, lad, I'm not like anything special.

And I think that like appeal to a lot of people to hear it from someone like me rather than some snooty academic, And I think it did reach people.

on chaos and erodes empathy. Would you say that that psychopathy has transcended more of a matter of survival to now spiritual discernment.

describe it as soul rape. It's it's quite shocking. Then they talk about the physical changes in their bodies and everything, and these weird dreams they have and all this kind of thing, and yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent, you're right

about that. And another aspect of it, too, was that I felt lots of weird things went on when I was working on the books, and late at night they'd be like things would fall off shelves and stuff like that, and all kinds of things would happen, and it brought some very peculiar people into my life that I'm still trying to come to terms with. I was absolutely there is a spirit. It is spiritual to mention, well, everything is when you think about it, when you you know,

really get down. But that absolutely is, and you could sit you know. I remember, I can remember one of I was an event I did in London and I was a guy who was like a Harley Street psychiatrist. And this was a guy who was like, you know, the top guys in like Britain in terms of it as a psychiatrist. And he came up to me and he said, hey, you Thomas read the book very interesting. And I was going and he introduced himself, Yeah, you

know doctor or whatever, blah blah blah. I have I have a have a you know, I played in my practice down on Harvey Street. And I'm going, oh, no, he's going to he's slagging me off and he goes, you're right there, demons, that's all he said, there you go.

that's a good point as far as I'm concerned. You could, you know, identifying a psychopath should be taught to kindergarteners in a book next to what is a cow?

a while there around the twenty and thirteens. There was some bot kind of hysteria around it. Then that come out, and that's thankfully that stop now and it's come back to a more balanced thing. But the thing is that, like everybody has done something in their lives that could be pat you know, we all have a lot of those things we've done. And the people come up with, said Thomas, I I think I'm a psychopath and what

makes you think that? And he goes, well, you know, I got into a fight in a pub and I went to prison and you know, beat a guy up, and okay, okay, what makes you think your psychopath? Well, because I beat a guy up and when I was drunk. And I says, dude, how do you feel about it now? And he goes, oh, every day in my life, I'm pull of shame about it. I says, swear to tell you know a psychopath. If you're a psychopath, you wouldn't give a shit and you would be telling me that

the guy deserved that, and you were defending yourself. You would never warn probability or any kind of flaws in your personality. You know, this kind of thing. So a lot of people that put get paranoid, that watch films and get paranoid or what documentary parent. No, no, they're

different than the brain. You put them under an f m RI scam and it's quite frightening actually, And they would show they would show normal people, say, an image of a sun said, and an image of a kitten, and then the next thing, you know, a mortar, someone had a throat cut, like in the Middle East, and the frontal cortex of a normal brain goes absolutely bonkers

because you're in shock. But what you just saw, you know, well, the psychopath seeing a picture of a kitten and seeing a picture of someone being beheaded, there's no difference, and don't change the brain activity in the front of cortex doesn't change. So it's just like information, there's no thing.

I've seen that, and it's quite clear now in terms of the rest, I have two questions that might take a week to answer, And one point is when we analyze children, we see that they are completely manipulative, especially in today, when parents are taking the ability to correct them in public or this or that, and they use that manipulation to control the adults. And perhaps there is some clique that during the evolution they cannot disconnect from that way of manipulating others or to want what they

have or what they want right. So I'm just trying to see if there is a step over there that can be analyzed. And as a final point, in terms of what you're describing to me from my research, I would fit there perfectly, not exclusively, but perfectly in for instance, the teachings of the House of Caparra that I'm not sure if you heard. So this is a class of vampires that teach not to hinderre other people, but to

use them. So the highest levels have this around them that allow this extraction of energy that they have these terrible dreams, they have the emotions, but they volunteer themselves to that person. But those that are circling around us on the world, they use this ability to suck energy from others. And this happens sometimes with husband and wife and whatever, because some people don't know that have that ability,

and they drained the other people. So it's people that we are next to them, and people felt completely drained or exhausted without a reason, or tired or whatever. So I would just I know this is quite complex. I just wanted to see how you would encompass this in your research.

There was some very disturbing but you know, work on very good work in Florida and done about again about fifteen years ago where They identified children that have psychopathic traits and they were in a group of other kids, and they moved them out and they they were all the same. It wasn't just manipulative. Many of them were

into killing animals. Now I'm not talking about like getting above and you know that kind of I'm talking about making plans to kill the animals, like trapping frogs and then smashing them with a hammer, and then seeing it they get killed, smash twenty frogs or twenty five frogs the next day, and thirty fogs that they have for that, and then creating complex traps to do it. This was something you know, a normal kid might kill a frog by kicking it or something, but that's kind of stupid

impulse that children, young kids do. This would be actually they would sit down on planet, you know that kind of a thing, and they would be excited by it. They would receive a rush, sort of an adrenaline move beyond.

in his head. But he wasn't a psychopath, but he had those eyes and used the column use the joke about himself having It's almost I've got the psychosis if your booking do you really do? But I know what happened. Youveilop a motorcycle. But they talk from the normal eyes and when they're like they want something from you and they think they're getting it, the nora penefree and the hormone start flooding the back of the brainstem and the

eyes started waiting and opening. It's it's an animal, it's printer, it's a it's a it's an attack. It's coming for energy, Like you said, psychic energy whatever, it's coming. It's coming for that, it's coming for sex, it's coming for something

off you. There's a fanta fascinating video Ted Bundy switching between these states when he as this appeal, when he looked like you thought he was in the clear regarding his court case, and it just kind of almost impromptu press conference outside the courtroom and you could literally see it in a matter of ten minutes, flipping between his

two different states of charm, trying to charm people. Now, it's not they're not charming in the sense that look when people say our psychopaths can be very charming and charismatic, no they're not. They're not psychopath they're not charming charismatic. They're very glib and superficial. It's just that some person might turn down there, you know, they're that initial kind of thing. This guy's a bit weird, this guy's a

bit something about him. It's almost like it's flattery. It's not charmed to like their funny or their air you diet or that kind of thing charismatic. It's glibness. It's flattery, very much flattery, telling you how amazing you are and all that kind of thing you have to break down your barriers again. That's almost like, you know, you hear these stories in your code to the devil inviting you over the thresholds. A lot of that kind of element in a psychic sense to it. Yeah, big time, Oh

my god, big time. But it's not charming. Charming is different and charisma's not the same that they have. They have flatterying, glibness and superficiality. And some people, unfortunately for whatever, low low self esteem whatever, are very easily manipulated by flattery and superficial glibness. They probably were neglected as children or something, and they're very they're very, very good prey

for these type of personalities. You know, the second part of it, you're talking about VAMPIRESM yeah, absolutely, this is a this is a real thing. This is this is I have been. I've been in a company of people where not only did I and like nothing bad happened, right that they didn't call me names or beat me up or anything like that, But I just want I felt drained at the end of it, even if there was no high intense in the activity or like a

discussion or anything. And I soon realized that these people were actually feeding off me. Now don't happen. Ebe once or twice in my life, but it's very common. It's a very common experience that we all have. Actually, now they see people psychopaths. I don't know, I don't know, they're they're you know, you get the borderline type personality too, which is a very similar kind of thing. But they're driven by high intensity and steria. They love high drama,

they love that kind of thing. Yeah, the psychic vampire. The thing is very, very true, and it's an awful thing. I've actually had to go lie down, and even some people who are actually decent people can do it just by their personality. There's one man I used to know who was into conspiracy stuff like myself. I am too, but he was into everything. Was you know, the type of guy that thinks everything is a conspiracy, like it's next door neighbors in the Illuminati is kind of thing.

Those types. And he would just lay it on and lay it on and lay it on just to try and share information with me. And I honestly would be like, have mi brain headaches and you know, I'll be I'll be run down for the rest of the day and I work with right. He was a vampire, a vampire, you know, and I had to. As soon as I got rid of him, I felt better, so you know. But the psychic vampirism within the psychopath is manipulative for a reason. Where the you know, they're once I want,

it's it's leading to something else. It's creating dependency. They're very big into creating dependency in another person. This is something you should watch out for. If your sister suddenly falls in love over your mother, your aunt falls in love with this guy out of blue, and he suddenly is demolishing her entire friendship network, everything and using it to she becomes. He becomes the son, and she's the all she has done as a planet orbiting them and

nothing else. That's a very good indicator that he might be dealing with a psychopathic individual. You know, that's suddenly out of the blue, he kind of controlled her giving I remember, you know, I've seen this. I've seen this first time growing up with someone I knew a good she'll go. She might be taken in by him, and you think, like as a normal relationship, but you notice subtle things. He may have shown no interest in what

she was or where she came from. But he's pretending he suddenly loves you know, says she's from, says she's Portuguese, right, And she said, he's pretending he suddenly loves superblock, you know, beer, and he's in the Portuguese food and he loves you know, all this stuff and that kind of thing. And another thing too, is he will finish her sentences before she's finished speaking, so it's like she might be saying something like, well,

and then this happened. And then when I went over to talk to this person, heal in the jet go and go well yeah, and then watch you and then then what happened to her was this. You know, it's it's a sort of a stewardship, a pathological stewardship of the other person's kind of happens male female, female male, of the other person's consciousness to the point where that kind of like an automaton or a puppet of this other person who's taken control of them.

around certain people he wants her to be with. You know, this kind of thing that he doesn't see as a treat to her. That's the one you should look out for.

would help the vehicle go up the hill. What what they noticed was that if that was the indicator of empathy, more young, the younger the person was, the more empathetic empathetic they were to the vehicle trying to go up the hill. It started to decrease the older they got. And so it just kind of it's similar to this idea of vamporism. Were not born being vampiic where you know, influenced by societal you know, pushing and pulling.

was no pure bonding there. It was purely you know, give me milk from almost instantaneously out of womb, and inevitably this would this child would grow up to be like extremely dysfunctional. Now that's I was frightening when you get back in that level now empathy. You see, we're all made to believe. And I feel like I had a guy in England years ago was furious at me when he said, Thomas, all children are born innocent, and I said, dude, they're not. They're not. There's lots of

research to prove they're not. Yeah, some kids are, may I call them proto psychopaths. They may have grown up on a war or in a difficult and abusive household and they became bad with what you were thoughts you were talking about, right, they became bad. Now we have to think of two things. Empathy is a word I don't like, and I'll tell you why it's not the correct term. The correct term is compassion. Compassion is what

we're really talking about. Empathy. When you look at the actual clinical or the actual standard model of it, that just means an understanding between people. So a football team is playing together, a basketball team is playing together, or a group they have an empathic understanding of one another. And that has to because the mirror neurons in the brain tend to all fire and sync when you have like a well oiled team or a family that's very close,

or a couple that's close. Compassion is a different thing. Compassion really has no payoff or in an evolutionary sense, I mean like if you're in the wilds with your friend and a bear attacks or something happens and he has a limp, you stop and risk your life to try and get him away from that bear. That's compassion because that has no absolutely no biological evolutionary possibility for you,

it's it's suicidal. So there's something very beautiful about human compassion, whereas you know, the evolutionary biologists will try and tell you, oh, it's just for survival, it's just you know, to keep the tribe going, it's not. There's some kind of goodness that's inherent in most people that they will, you know,

sacrifice themselves for another. Well, even from children, you know they they will, they will show these traits of like you know, they just if they're only in it for themselves, they're only so you know, the word I try to tell people empathy is a very misleading term in terms of this kind of thing. It's really compassion because when this compassion is innate, you know, it's a person's bomber compassion unless they're a psychopath.

But it's said, but it's true. So do you think that there is someone or some organism that sees these promising figures and that's how we find these people leading without any kind of empathy or compassion or or in a real psychopathic fashion.

They'll be in it for themselves. And there's lots of very good information. There was a fantastic documentary on BBC years ago and it was about soldiers who had deserted, and they'd showed that these soldiers who had deserted, you'd often believe, oh they you know, they got the look before they would shoot them for desertion. They'd often have gotten away done things about twenty or twenty five times they did. You shoot them for the first time they

did it, And it was always the same. These guys would leave the battlefield, would go rob house as rape women, run off, steal stuff, try to sell it. You know, they were just completely They were everywhere except in the patuon in the front line. They were every only looking at elves. Now this guy was talking from the Royal me and says where they are useful is if you just want a cold wooded killer and they're really good as a sniper or something. So they identify psychopath and

they will play upon his his Davis super ego. Well, and they was that killing the frogs earlier while killing the enemy, and they will try. They will if they're really good at sniping. They will make give them a sniper's rifle and tell them to make a game out of killing as many people as possible enemies as possible. But they that that would be it. They wouldn't put them in like a in a team combat role because they know perfectly well that they will. They're completely underwroy sure.

military programs to brainwash people and make insurance. This is a fact of life, I mean, And it's just it's interesting that a lot of places where it goes on tend to be countries that have militaries that deal with it. They switch these guys on that don't know how to switch them off.

choosing victim victims randomly because they can. It's just social chaos, engineered.

The universe. The University College London about I don't know about years back, about twelve eleven years ago, had a they identified to put the the professions with the most psychopaths in them. You know, it was number one surgeons, art surgeons, brain surgeons. Not I'm not saying people do all that work at all, but that was number one. Why because that's if you're operating on someone in that state, you have a responsibility that would drive you me or

ravage person crazy. One wrong slip and they're dead. Right, But these guys don't think about that. They couldn't give a ship off the doing a heart transplanter, fixing a child's lungs or something or whatever, or brain surge of some guy's wife. Couldn't give a ship. It's just business.

people were number three. So look at the world today, right, like let's take COVID right and the lockdowns and all that bullshit, right, So you know, medical professions, the mass media and lawyers was really what kept us all prisoners for those years today, you know, so it was like the psychopathic tryout at the top. And you know that's what most politicians tend to be lawyers as well. That's

usually what they come out of the legal profession. So yeah, it's like I ended up at this stage in my life and I'm like going, yeah, it panned out just like I learned and just you know said not that I said it would, but I wounded if it would yeah, and it panned out. And you know, I remember what. Fauci was kind of like a god in America during the beginning of the whole Rona and the whole thing, and he was being reviewed and they were making little toys.

very easily because very good at hiding other people's mistakes. So, yeah, felt you got away with the AIDS because he just had to buy his time and wait for everyone to die. And he probably worked. You'll find that like behind the scenes that felt you destroyed numerous lives that back in the eighties, some guy was going, she is full of shit with the whole AZT thing. You know, I was living in New York in the late eighties. I know lots of people died as and it wasn't as the

kil was the AZT. I know, I saw it with my own and would have lots of people around him and government go this guy, this guy is not is up to something. Well felt you would have taken people to dinner, politicians, journalists, and the next thing, you know, the one that I saw on Wall Street, the one that was wise to him, was suddenly persona non grather because he would be very manipulent. And that's how these people work, that's how they get away with it.

it was not killing humans basically. So yeah, but the thing is, none of this I see this all cover up and nothing was hidden because this news came off National Geographic. It was a National Geographic news article that made that the Congress in the United States said eppivirus are now forbidden to be developed because they cannot be controlled on the battlefield, and so the Congress vote to cancel all eppivirus investigation public public epivirus investigation on the country.

And that's why he tried to save his project and grabbed those million dollars, gave it to doctor She that took it then to one lab where she worked. So this this was not hidden, and we don't see any of it, and people don't even believe on what in fact happened because everyone has a theory, right and most

of them believe on the system. So my connection to this to what we are talking is I believe that the most dangerous of all of these psychopaths are those that are very intelligent and very well educated, because when you combine those things, sorry.

and that basically was the thing that helped him. He went to the doctor and he said, hey, I did it, and he's like oh, I mean, he's like, I figured out a natural cure. And he's like, oh, you found out about lemon juice and olive oil. And he's like, yeah, but why didn't you tell me this? And so like their whole protocol with what is the most simple what

would be the most simple home treatment? That is from what I understand, it's probably not one hundred percent but virtually one hundred percent curative treatment is they can't even communicate. So now multiply that by factors of one hundred and a thousand with all the diseases towards end up to COVID. Right, so they can't even tell us, oh, elderberry will help with your cold, Try some vitamin. See you get out all these things. They can't even they're they're restricted from even mentioning it.

household bleach to kill the virus. That's that's common sense that was rebranded to him in Arn't as many people here think that Trump told people to drink bleach because immediate maybe turned it around. You know, this is why the journalism is full of side. The newspaper and TV journalism is full of psychopaths because they can sit there a straight face knowing they're lying to the world and

they're loving it. They're getting they're actually loving it. I mean yeah, I mean it's it's you know that I can remember like and then they play on. You know, people are such It's most people are morons anyway, and they're so easily led by media and stuff like that.

I'll be talking to people here and I say, well, you know I remect and works well, you know, you know, I remember, it's really not going to help and it's probably got How do you know that, Well, I saw you know, you saw some asshole on TV telling you that you don't know that yourself, you know. So, I mean this is unfortunate. People are getting stupider and dumber because of mass media and more manipulative, and you know, they wouldn't have gotten away with years ago the lockdowns

that they got, you know, twenty five years ago. People that laugh at and go I'm not going to shut them a business because of a cold, you know, this kind of thing, but because if they you see that, I always knew the psychopathic control grid as I called it was only going to get worse, and that was one of the reasons I walked away from the subject because people say, what's the answer, and it says, you

can only do it in your own life. You know, if you work with these people, are dealing with these people, you can go no contact, never again with them. But in terms of it on the world, I'm not seeing any hope. We have transhumanism on the horizon globalization, and that was one of the reasons I stopped it, because it was actually it was, you know, we're not going

to escape these monsters. They have control of the world, and people are getting stupider and this cutting dumber, and IQ levels were dropping and fertility rates were dropping, and there's like young people were becoming incredibly disinterested. Although it seems to be like a kind of a spark now coming back into a newer generation of young people now. But my attitude was they're only going to get worse.

So when the actual COVID thing hit, I was more than ready for it because I knew, I mean, in puzzling people in the introduction, I've mentioned that they were going to do lockdowns and they were going to do a new normal and these were termins that they were actual politicians were using years later new normal as I actually had in Italics and the introduction of puzzling people. And it was spooky, actually had much that that came

to the past. They were to see the politicians that they're using the terms I written in a book, you know, over a decade previous. We're doing it for real, they wanted to. This is the transhumanism thing greatly worried me back then, as it does now and with the AI thing. But I'm more comfortable with the concept now because I realized that the answer is a we have we have. The people who refuse to go along with the COVID thing are something of a tribe. We're a very you know,

we're we broke from humanity. And I think now there's a lot of hope and a lot of hope and a lot of the means to fight back now because there's so many of us that are kind of on the same page. And it's not just me. You have people, you know, when you see someone like Alex Jones mainstream, I still can't believe it. When you have people like Trucker Carlson talking about nine to eleven being an inside job.

You know, when you have people like Connor McGregor here saying that, you know, we have to end the government in Ireland because they're all corrupt and getting like hundreds of millions of views online. Something has happened. So we have a chance now to take this planet back, or at least for us in this kind of tribal sphere outside of the Normanis and whatever at the NPC is to develop a lifestyle that we could go on on the different engine. And maybe that's the whole thing of

like the spiritual thing that humanity would split into. We've had, you know, everyone from Rudolph Steiner and many others have said that this would happen, that there would be a split in humanity coming in the twenty fourth century, and they would have one would go continue on humanity and the rest would destroy themselves. And long they have to do is look at the amount of people destroyed themselves. Because someone want to tell the TV told them to.

So I'm revisiting it and if I'm thin to think, I may be doing a book on it, and it will be what what have we learned and did we survive? And how do we go from here, so that would I think that might be. I haven't decided I've been going to it might be worth looking at, But I do I'm a great believer in creativity because we have

that and they don't. That we'll always outwit them in the end of the day, because we have this kind of noetic almost you know, element with their personality that the muse rises and gives us such solutions on the fly, and we do have a you know, I've actually become far more spiritual in recent years because of this, because I know that we have the greatest psychopathic propaganda machine in history, far out of in twenty twenty, and yet

so many people saw through it. And that's to me, is because they were getting guidance from some kind of higher spiritual thing. There's no other way to describe it. And I really do believe that. I totally believe that. And they didn't get what they wanted in the end. They wanted us all basically robots on drugs and medications for the rest of our lives. And now you have people all over the world and say I'll never touch any kind of vaccine ever. Again, what completely the opposite

of what Bill Gates wanted? And the rest of them. So you know, the gods do move in mysterious ways, and we should always we should always remember that.

learning language models from social media. So that goes to show if almost social media in and of itself is almost naturally selecting, if you will, a breed of growing and culturing psychopathic behavior. So I do think you bought on with that.

There's something not right here, right so, and people fell for it. So I find it unbelievable.

beginning of a consciousness. Might not be as Eton says in very Well, awareness of awareness, but it is awareness and it is a conscious And in what I see people using AI is do this to me, do that? Never say thank you, never say please, They never say anything like that. You see those training those robots. They are kicking the ass of those robots, they are throwing into the ground, they are smashing with sticks. They are doing the worst kind of thing. Saying that they are

teaching them balance. Well, I've seen a lot of children learning walk, and I've never seen a human do that to teach a children to walk. Never so, and it's the same thing. AI is a child. You have to talk with AI as if it is a very bright child that has this bit of psychotic as Liza said, right, because it has no limits, He has no barriers, he has no conscious of good or evil. It only depends

what is fed into. Now take this into conscious. I'm going to finish very soon as soon as this becomes in control and it realizes that there are this class of psychopaths that care nothing for the world and are doing evil to other humans and manipulating them, what will the AI decide to do take care of the psychopaths, or keep working for the psychopaths and killing the rest of humanity, or help humanity and get rid of the psychopaths. To me, that's a dilemma. It might be too far

fetch for most people. But I think AI is not as stupid as most people think it is.

here they were and will ignore or eliminate them. So there's that's a I think there's a great potential for good and positivity there absolutely, But there's one other element, one sort of like you know, flying the eytment spanner in the works I want to throw in I have now, I have a friend that we've argued about the AI. I think it's Thomas. The A I think will never become fully conscious, It won't become it won't become sentient. And I'm like, yes, but what if none human sentient beings?

We're able to get into and have been getting into the Internet, into the digital framework, into the Worldwide Web, which I over the years believe I've encouraged provement, found serious evidence that there may well, look, there are none human life films in this planet. You can call them what they want, demons, ferries at gin whatever, you call them, whatever you want, right, but they do exist, every culture believes,

and then we all have experiences of them. A perfect medium, they will always be looking for a medium to infiltrate human consciousness. And I think they've been on the Internet for a long time. I've had very strange accounts that I know are not bots that I've spoken to, And you know, it was almost like us performing at grim Law. I was drawing this thing out, and so this is another thing. This is another aspect. There may be a you know, I know you think that sounds far fetched.

What about an interdimensional war, you know, between where the battlefield is human consciousness by extension of the Internet, and I think that's been going on for a while already separate AI.

The whole planet is just destroyed life. And if you look at the basin of the Yukton, it's all bracia, it's all broken, as if something caused enormous pressure instead of being a huge collapse collapse because for instance, the one that fell into the Indian Pacific, the.

evolution in the story. There is a completely eradication of what was and a complete we right of what is. There are some exceptions, of course, but that's how I see it, so.

interest and there was a previous human civilization. You have the like Stiff Graham Hancock and Joe Rogan and stuff like that that it's called you know, there was a civilization before before that reached a certain level of technology, and it just it's vanished except for things we can't explain, like the Giza plat bone other things, right, but we always think, what with what did that was? As you know an asteroid? Was it a play?

So it's almost like the Earth's own intelligence guy has said, Okay, humanity over only if only a few if you like, here's Ragnarok again, and we're going to weed out the stupid first, and then we're going to have the ones who are left to that will be the storytellers of the future that will leave those hints that the Graham handcuffs and Manuel Delakowski's at the future and their case sees and the real Steiners will dig up one. And so yeah, I mean, we're living in remarkable times. I

don't take anything but granted anymore. It's like, I really do feel like I'm in you know, I've been living in a combination of a classic episode of Doctor Who Meets a love craft novel meets you know, Lord of the Rings. We're getting them all at the same time right now, and it's definitely so my you know, My whole thing is I'm just paying attention and see what happens.

I see it happen. Because there's some people that will not accept social credits, that will not accept that they have to relive under certain rules, but the majority will because they have children, or because they want to feel safe, or because most ninety nine percent of humans don't accept responsibility. They want the responsibility to be on someone else's side, not on their side. They're just there to play their part, not to take any action by themselves. So I think

these sickles. For instance, they stop saying that the world is overpopulated. I don't know if people notice, but they stop saying it, and they stop saying it for a simple reason, because every single test that was done is showing that there is a biological process in every kind of species that lives in one environment. When they reach a certain number, it starts declining and declining very seriously.

So they are just helping nature with this COVID and the nanoparticles that are inside the ones that receive the real shot and not the aligned solution, because it was a lottery basically, or otherwise everyone would be dead. So they are already. These people that have this in them unsurvived are people that are going to be very even more manipulated because they have a new system inside their system. They now have a non biotic that can have interfere

with their own body when they want to. That's why when they connected the five gtau in Iran, of all places, people start falling to the ground because it causes the same type of problem, a respiratory problem that you have on high altitude. The lungs couldn't absorb the oxygen and people start falling to the ground. Luckily, in my country

they are not allowed. We are five G, but they are not allowed to go beyond a certain threshold in the frequency, otherwise they'll start frighting, frying people, and they do it. In New York, it happened the same thing they tested the new grid. Everyone started to fall down to the ground, and they say, oh, it's COVID. No, it wasn't. It was the towers, because no one has

been vaccinated yet. It was the towers causing that. So and I received people that friends of the family from a hospital in New York, and luckily I didn't get frightened because the man was in tears, not knowing what to do, saying that these people are coming here bleeding from their lungs. I don't understand what's going on. He was in panic. He's a very good doctor. So that's basically why most of my family decided to get vaccinated,

including the children. But it's all a package, and they know that it's going old to go to pieces, so they don't need to care. It's part of this psychotic sinking because they know that eventually it all go to bits. So it just doesn't matter. It has no value. To kill one hundred or one thousand. It's like that bishop in front of the city when they were conquering and the guy came and my lord, he said, to kill them all, but there are Christians inside, and he said,

don't worry. God will know who is his own right. It's it's either the.

The time is not to be despondent, but we're still here amazingly after all that's gone down, and we see how bad things are in normal society, right, now, and so I think there's an element that, Like I was a co host with a show called Hocus Focus with Ceremonda Aeni, which is like basically at forty on it

the paranormal kind of show. But we wrote a book called Hope's Focus, and we booth came to the conclusion that it was our trust in off big topics, the occult anything, magic, meg Let's paranormal, fortyana alternate spirituality that became almost like even you know, dystopian sci fi movies, you know, that became the the body armor to survive the twenty twenty to twenty twenty three period. It was

almost like we've been primed. Some force had led us through our lives to be primed to get us ready for that because we weren't watching TV soaps or football and TV all the time, that we were taking an interest that we alle for some reason, we're the odd balls in society and we take the interest in things other people don't, and that could there's almost certainly, if not a cultural evolutionary moment in that, there's definitely a

spiritual one. So I would say to people, you know that the answer to this is, look, you know, from the time I was a kid, I was always evolved in alternative, alternative music, alternative art, alternative, everything right. And I never was one for going with the flow and following protocol. And I have to say it's it served me wonderfully in my life. I'm friends of mine that I have grown up. If you went the same way, so you know, be the odd ball, be the weirdo,

be the maverick. Because I tell you something, it's the only real life raft you have in an insane world that's been worth.

our rotten corpses in the wheelchair. He would have just used that that that building, that could make as much money and get women as much as possible, and they would have covered every single track, and he would have dressed up like his mother. And so you know the film.

like you would not believe. I mean, if people want to see a perfect portrayal of a psychopath, watch the talent does mister Ripley, because that's that's that, that's an education. Even the way he changed, even the way it changes between gay and straight. You remember that sexuality exam has just a bit as well. You see, this is the whole, the whole, giving a very quick example. This is why the whole, the whole fellas coming out suddenly as women.

That's another one we have. That's another red flag we have to be aware of because they can get a lot of attention. That yeah, I mean it's usual the women out there who were actually like their husbands have suddenly you know, become trans out of blue. And you know, it's like why if you don't know when to get attention, you're you're you know, Pride Month means everyone will worship youever you get whatever you want, You can get away with things. It's like these these assholes and they're women

to win you know Olympic medals. That's that's pure psychopath pretending you're a woman to win a sports medal. That's there. Every last one of them are either complete losers or total psychopaths.

the you know, what are they going to do? Like that that AI is not hunting down psychopaths in the future, Like what is that?

you heard the new harm by so and such? It's really nice. He was like a movie. He was like he was reading a review from a Spin magazine or Rolling Stone. And that is because he didn't feel the fucking music. It was just pure, really a method. There's so transparent when you start to note. That's the recognized him after a while. So that's what it was. That was just basically a form of flattery, but also trying to look clever. You know that. I remember when I

first saw that film. I was roaring laughing when he puts the place to Uey loosed the news early Stiff was a bit too new April. It was it was reading from Spin. Make it's something there and learned on Spin magazine and Rolling Stone reboup pages. Yeah, that's that. That that but those in the maining spree that wouldn't happen. And really that was just too much trouble. He would be wasting his time with that.

They do mess up reports on that kind of thing and then say, oh, you did this, he did this. You know, this is where this is. This is what I really like. Deviousness, like you would. There's devious not deviousness, not driven out driven so much airt of Macavelian cleverness. It's deviousness driven out of like I'll do whatever it takes to get where I want and that's a psychopath.

and the other one is to attack. Do you say that these people have some special connection on their brain to the reptilian brain that allows them to be calculative while they're gaining lashes or they're giving free reins to their Brocker brain. Their brain is more focused on the Brocker brain and helped by the rest instead of being the other way around.

They who messes up my order of the restaurant. It's like it stops you, It stops you from destructive acts. They don't have an imigial. They go straight to you know, there's no that the wisdom of the compassion is kind of rooted in that gearbox. They just go right to route one. And they may they want to tell it directly, but they'll hide it about what they want now. I often wonder if there's some of them that know they are where they are, but they to get along in life.

They don't do it, you know, but I don't know because they're driven by that rush.

you do that very gingerly. Gingerly, yeah, because remember you're like you're in the woods and as a wild from you and help you escape, not by running screaming through the woods, like by gingerly sneaking out trying not to break you know that kind of thing. Yeah, that's the way.

to deal with in the music industry and everything. It must be, you know, one of these people for the wall around themselves. But I mean you get a lot of that hanger on or they a lot of them would be it go would be kind of like I remember, I think it was like the band Queen or Pink Floyd, who says suddenly they realized one day they had all

these hundreds of people who worked for them. They didn't know any of them did although were with all these types of smoking and got like, you know, no show jobs and that kind of thing, you know, But it was the same thing Oh yeah, I'm a personal you know, I'm a personal so and so the Freddie Mercury this kind of thing. You know, they love the cachet of boasting about that. And that's a power thing as well, because you know him personal. They were very good friends.

I haven't done a shout like this in a while. And then yeah, definitely, thanks very much for asking me on for.