You see somethings going to happen.
What's gonna happen?
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Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. I got a bunch of us. I got a couple of us here, actually, just a couple of us here tonight with Carl Crusher returning guests.
We've had them on a few times.
Guys always got amazing, crazy stories to tell us, and I'm sure he's got some more wild ones for us tonight before we get to him.
We're gonna introduce Headless Giant. What is going on? My man?
How are you.
Good?
How are you doing? I got beans over here, I got the trialogues coming on tomorrow with Ethan and Ricardo, and then later on we're gonna be talking about the Green Man with jewels, so it's gonna be a really interesting tomorrow. You can find me on YouTube at the Headless Giant Podcast and also on x the Headless Giant.
If you have any strange, occult, weird stories kind of like the ones we're gonna be talking about today, send them to the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com and if you include your address, Nick will send you out some stickers and we do those on Thursday, so definitely check that out. Thank you guys, it's really popping. We got some great stories coming in, so definitely check us out on Thursdays. Thank you so much.
Yes, and this Thursday we might have an interesting guest, so just letting you know. Yeah, uh and Tyrone my man? How wait, so please let everybody know what's up with you?
What's up?
Head List?
What's up? Nick? Hey?
He list? Man? You keep forgetting bro.
You got to promote your art, man, you keep forgetting that like I promote the books. Man, you gotta promote your art, you know what I'm saying. So while he's doing that, everything that you want to find about me or learn about me is on my website, rebirth at the word dot com. I love ancient history, mythologies, conspiracies and all kinds of stuff. I also wrote a book that went bestseller that's on Journey through the Journey through the Origins of History. That's on Amazon. And I know
Carl from Twitter spaces. This man got a lot of respect from me, so I'm very anxious to hear what he has to say.
Thank you for letting me be here.
Of course, you know, thank you, sir, and I think it's awesome that you knew who he was. Probably I was like, yeah, this is awesome, and now we got to man himself. We got a call Crusher. What is going on, sir? For people who don't know who you are yet? Because it's been a while since you've been on the show, and I've gotten some new subs and followers, why don't you let everybody know kind of what you're into and some of your credentials places you've been.
Yeah, my name is Karl Andreson. Online, I go by Carl Crusher just because it's easier to spell and everything. But I explore ancient locations, paranormal hotspots, and places where it's known that the government has done a lot of research and psychic research into the UFO and UAP phenomena.
So I'm really fascinated with that over layer between the paranormal consciousness and UFOs and aliens or other life, and so I try to throw myself in the middle of that as a filmmaker, go out and make a lot of independent films and documentary projects, and then I upload them all over the place and see how far I can go with it, who I can work with and what kind of things I can uncover, and so yeah, I'm trying to explore consciousness and reality and film it all as I go along the way.
Yeah, you definitely do want a good job.
So hey, of course, of course, I know recently you've been kind of back at Skinwalker Ranch again.
Correct.
Yeah, it's just up there. They just had a whole convention up there called Phenomenon where a ton of people came together, like the whole Skinwalker Ranch crew was there, and a bunch of them are speaking, like Whitley Strieber was there, Jay Stratton was there. I got to meet and talked to Jay Stratton from the you know, he's the Pentagon guy that was the head of the UAP Task Force for a while. I think that's what he was.
But yeah, just a bunch of people from the field and the UFO world and then but mostly I'm researching a new spot that's just north of Skinwalker Ranch. There's a whole property up there called Thunderstrike Ranch, and it's basically like ten miles north of Skinwalker Ranch. But it's the same exact cows that grays on the property at Skinwalker Ranch. So on the show, when you see the stories about the dead cows that they find or animal mutilations or some cow just turns up dead or whatever.
It's the exact same herd that are up at Thunderstrike Ranch that actually goes and grays is at Skinwalker Ranch, and so it's the same owners, it's the same cows, it's a lot of the same families and everything. It's just a little bit north across the town and all the same legends and everything. But yeah, just been going up. They're working with some of the people that used to work at Skinwalker Ranch back in the day during Bigelow's era, hanging out with the locals and talking to them and
doing real field work. Like there's actually a rash of dead animals going on right now, Like there's a dead cow, deer, cat, like a whole string of the string of animals that have been found up there just like that have been found in really disturbing ways, you know, unnatural kind of deaths. And so I've been up there investigating that and along with that a lot of you know, staying up all night to try and look for UFOs because we're right up there in the territory where a lot of that happens.
So yeah, just working with all of that, and then recently with the guys, some of the guys from Skywatcher, the team that summons UFOs for the government on government contracts and stuff and does that professionally. So some of them are coming out wanting to be more public. They want to help like starting their own YouTube channels and learning how to do all that. So they've been partnering up with me on the side and kind of going out and coming to some of my spots and doing it with me.
So that's been pretty cool, very validating too. What is some of the ways that you know up to summon these UFOs.
Yeah, well, it's there's a combination of methods. Like the Skywatcher team itself, they have developed a system that combines consciousness and like projected telepathy along with technology, and they have a piece of radar equipment that they call they've nicknamed the dog Whistle, and basically it's a like a projected radar system that they can point at the sky and modulate the frequencies of the radar and they can get certain results with that where they basically can call
in these identified craft or object to appear over the mountains or come down in the sky, and then the team of psionics is what they call them, are the people that do telepathy. They use consciousness and they use meditations and different methods of consciousness in order to basically interface with that craft once it appears and then communicate
with it. And the theory is and the ideas that the psionics team is able to use their telepathic abilities to sort of hijack the controls of the craft since it's piloted by consciousness itself anyways, and you can kind of land the craft or bring it down and then it's available for study or for capture by these organizations or whatever. So the methods are like the combination of the technology using the radar equipment or the modulated sound
frequencies and tones along with the psionics. But part of the reason that the team from Skywatchers coming out and working with me is because we're on this path to be like, we don't need a dog whistle, we don't need anything. We think that we can be successful with this at the highest level just using intentions and using the formula that we've developed, which is connecting directly with
the ancient methods. And the reason these guys from Skywatcher are coming out to work with me to do psionics. Is because during these incidents where they've had what you would call a landing, like a craft actually comes down or an object comes down and lands on the ground in front of officials, some of the entities that they've encountered and the things that they've seen are reflected in the ancient petroglyphs and the carvings that I go and
study in these ancient sites. So part of the telepathy and the psionics is how can we find this balance between the environment of where you're at, the technology and the human element of conscient and get the right combination to get the UAP to get closer and closer and get the proof. So that's kind of yeah, what we've
been doing. But there's a lot of different nuances if we wanted to get into like how psionics works, how the telepathy works, and the different methods and like what you actually do within the mind, I mean, we can go all into that.
Oh yeah, I'm ready to. I'm already step ahead of you because I was just thinking, you know, the basic way to you know, the easiest way to explain that is just how you know, people use frequencies to meditate today, you know, through the four thirty two hertz and all
that other stuff. You know, they use different frequencies to meditate and stuff like that, and then when they meditate, they see these you know, visions and that's what that's what I want to call them visions, and they were able to do things within those visions and stuff like that. So yeah, that's that's how I see it with frequencies, you know when you say the word frequency at least.
Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, like psionics and the and the way that a lot of it works is if you visualize. You know, some people are not as good as visualizing things in their mind, you know, like having an imagination and being able to hold that imagination like a vision
in your mind, like you just subscribed. But yeah, it kind of works in a similar way where yeah, you're out in an ancient location, you're sitting on the hilltop with your friends there, and then you all kind of get synchronized in the right mindset, and it all starts with your intentions, like your subconscious reasons of why you're even there. You better make sure that those are in check.
You better make sure that everybody in the group is like getting along and has a good relationship, you know, like very fundamental things just about your own attitude and stuff.
But then when you start to go up through that process of meditation and self awareness, Yeah, then it becomes almost like a holographic overlay in the mind where you're sitting on the hilltop and you're looking up at the sky, but inside your mind you're also visualizing these holographic connections or this other connection to reality, or like a beam of light going into the sky, or these quantum abilities
or connections and things. And yeah, sometimes they appear like a vision, or sometimes there's something that you just control and point in a certain way. And yeah, the idea is you get the group kind of all on the same page, and then suddenly there's a response and there's a reaction to that. Almost like just like you would go bird calling and you would get good at getting
the birds to come closer and closer. We're kind of doing the same thing through meditation and consciousness when we go out to these sites and do the skywatching.
So, Carl, this kind of begs the question, is this a natural phenomena? Is this manifesting because of the participants, or is there some interaction that creates, you know, kind of a harmonic state or a harmonic resonance that then produces this phenomena. Is is it alien at all? Or is it native to this earth? So much more native that, you know, we can't even possibly imagine how old it is.
I tend to think that it's more like the latter what you said. I think it's a lot more native. I mean, so much so that it's hard to fathom. I've tried to write a couple of books about it, in little small books, and do videos about it, but it's very difficult to explain where these things are coming from, you know, because you we're everything that we do is based on physics and the laws of physics and looking
and experiencing physical reality. And when you start to talk about these non physical energies, non physical dimensions and all that, those rules don't necessarily apply when you're talking about consciousness and thought and the mind and the fundamental substrates of the universe, you know, like when you get beneath the molecules and the atoms and the quarks and the very energetic fabric of reality, what's back in there and what
is there? Is there another side. Is there another dimension beyond that or is everything actually manifesting out of that space? Because that emptiness of what we think is a nothing, like the nothingness of empty space, is actually made of pure consciousness and pure potential and pure creativity, and that everything is springing up from that from that, what we think is nothing is actually pure potential. And when you connect, you.
Know how depressing that that thought is. Because the reason the phenomena changes, according to what Jacques Valet has said and many others, is because the changes in our consciousness are projecting out, so all of the terrifying factors of this phenomena are coming through us conscious us.
Yeah. So imagine if you're like a security guard an ancient Native American location and you're walking around at night, and there's a magical energy to that place connected to
the universe somehow that we don't understand. But when you walk through that area, it's able to take your own subconscious thoughts and your own fears, your own self doubts, and it takes those feelings that you have, like your own inner doubts and things and fears, and suddenly forms that into an appearance that you see walking towards you through the trees, and you all of a sudden are looking into this mirror like directly that's coming right out
of the universe and right out of the darkness. And to you it might completely look like a skin walker or the Boogeyman or some kind of a ghoule. You know that you wouldn't have any idea what it is.
But really you're steering into the core fabric of reality, which is actually made of us as the looker, as the observer, and ultimately you realize everything that's happening in reality comes from the observer effect, and that we're actually the cause of it, and we're yeah, but we all think that we're in it and we're trying to figure
it out, and it's all inside out, you know. Yeah, it's like being in a dream and not realizing that you're in a dream and really believing that everything out there is not made of you, right when really in the dream, everything is made out of yourself.
Really, it's like trying to infuse. It's trying to fuse that big comic you know, bomb, right, but that bomb's actually made out of you, and you created the bomb that that's now about to explode in your face, try to confuse what's essentially just made out of your stuff exactly.
What's interesting on that level is the hero's journey, right, So all of these ancient shamanic cultures had this idea of overcoming these obstacles as they presented themselves to you in much, you know, horrific ways, and showing how the soul can overcome that through you know, certain virtues and certain practices and all the rest of this stuff. And we sort of leave that behind because we think, oh, that's agent stuff. They're talking about crazy hallucinations or something.
But really it's the same stuff that we're dealing with today, just showing in a different light, a different perspective, a different subconscious manifestation.
Yeah, noured out, Yeah, go ahead, Tyn. I was going to say, hey, listen, I don't think we're trying to figure it out. I think is we have more words to explain it today than we did before. You know, before they didn't really have that many words, and one word meant many different things, and that's why there's so much confusion.
I think the figuring part, Yeah, I think I have to agree.
With you a little bit on that, because the figuring part is how to use those words in the explanation of what you've seen.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, that does make a little Yeah.
I do like that.
I do like that.
Yeah. I think what I mean figuring out too, is I think that as a society we've lost touch with it a little bit unnaturally. And it's not even really our fault. I think just as a civilization, we've evolved, and now we've got all these cities and high rises and buildings, and we're living and sitting in offices and staring at computers and our phones all day, and that's just like.
We've got to sacrifice lambs and shit.
Bro.
Yeah, I mean yeah, we're talking about you know, thousands of years before us, where everybody was literally just outside looking at the sky, you know, and connected to this and it was just their way of life. And so I just feel like we've kind of drifted away from a sense of connection and awareness. That is, once you get back out to these sites and start going out into nature and paying attention and meditating, then you immediately
reconnect with it. And that's why there's a million different religions around the world, all based off of those experiences where a guy goes up on the mountain alone, sits there for a few days, has a huge epiphany, talks to God and comes down with this wisdom, and then a whole religion is built off of that. But there's nothing that says, yeah, we all can do that, like
and we just forget that. We can get out of the city, go up in the mountains and sit there, sit and meditate, and the universe will show up for you.
It really will see a lot of people forget that. You don't have to sit on your ass to meditate. You can literally go hiking and meditate while you're walking crazy. To meditate, you just have to find the one that works for you. You know, they got they have the basic ones and the ones that probably work, you know, the strongest and the best. But then they also have
ones where you know, somebody can't sit down. You know, somebody might have a back problem or and ask problem, or somebody they can't sit down, you know, saying they might have to get up or walk if they if they sit in one spot too on they go to sleep. So if they go on a walk, they can listen to the It is what you focus on when you're meditating.
Nature that is.
Literal nature is literal medicine. Going out in the sun helps heal our bodies. So I mean thinking of going into nature is actually just reconnecting with that medicine that's free everywhere all the time.
Right, do what shaman do.
Take off your damn shoes when you walk in through the woods and ground you know what I mean, that's what you're supposed to be do people put the rubber between the grounding effect. You know, there's you know, when you when you go do something, you have to go all in. You can't just go half ass. And that's why a lot of times a lot of people fail those visual quests that they're looking for because they're going half ass in it.
Yeah, And there's also something that happens to you just in the act of making the attempt saying, like when you make the decision and you get up and you say, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go on them out and I'm going to try and connect or I want to reconnect to nature or whatever. Just even as you start doing that, that process opens up your mind and you begin to see and listen and to feel and all of that sort of opens up your
consciousness like a flower. And the more that you do that and go out and look at the stars, you know, if you take off your shoes or you take meditation, ball or do whatever whatever you like to do. The whole idea is just to get your intentions and your attitude and your mood and the spirit whatever makes you feel good. Ultimately, like when I was working with the Skywatcher guys, my whole attitude was like, well, what's your secret?
Is there a method that you do? You do this before that, do you say this to yourself, like what's the whole process? And ultimately the big secret is you can't overthink it. Like the whole idea is to get up in the mountains, to get around a couple of good people and just like really expect that something's going to show up. And if you have the right intentions and the right group of people around and you go out with the attitude that it's going to happen, then
it does. It actually does. And that's been the case. And the more you try to fiddle with it, like it's some kind of a thing where you can if I do it this way, or if I tune it up this way, or do it that way, it's almost like you get farther and far away from it. Like if you're an athlete and you're to get really good at being accurate, like at hitting the target. The more you start getting in your head and trying to think about how to do it, the more you're gonna get
screwed up and the more you're gonna miss. You have to let go and get in a flow state and just realize that this is amazing and it hits the bullseye. You know, you have to really trust and so a lot of it comes down to that is like just being with the right people and going out and just trusting that like this is gonna work.
You know, that's the most important part, being with the right people. But being with the right people, I like to expand on that doesn't mean that you have to be around people that like you or you like, because part of what makes who you are is being around the stuff that you don't like, so that way you
can better understand the world around you. If you surround yourself around people that you like and that you agrees with everything that you're saying, you agree with them, then you just putting yourself in a bad state because you're never going to get out of that, you know.
Outside of that box.
So I mean, but you have to also be able to learn how to be able to be cordial with people. You have to be able to understand and talk to individuals. So when you say being around to good people, that doesn't to me, that just doesn't mean being around people that like me or anything like that. I have to have me some people around that dislike me, because it will ground you. It's like that, it's the positive and negative effect. You know, you can't have a positive effect
without ative negative. You know what I'm saying. That's just what it is, agreed.
I just mean I'm referencing that as far as like, if we were going to go as a group, it would definitely be a drawback on the experience if one person was there the whole time being like this is bullshit, This isn't going to work. You guys are stupid. Like make sure you bring people that are like cool with what you're doing and kind of expect it to happen, you know, Like, but yeah, you don't have to like everybody, that's for sure. Yeah.
I gave to this conclusion a couple of weeks ago. The fundamental polarity within the entire universe is tension and release. Right, So when you're all manifesting that same intention, that's where you're getting the ten and then when it finally gets magnetically attracted to you through that tension, through all that one sort of way of thought, that becomes the release. So you've got to have the the goals and the and the tension lined up in that regards, and you've
got kinetic and potential energy. It's all tension and release. So that's that's part of existing and manifesting that a lot of people are kind of missing out on this primary polarities.
Yeah, I agree, Yeah good.
I wanted to ask you, Carl, because you had you brought up a perfect point when when I said what I said, you said, uh, you know the person that's around you that's being negative the whole time? How do you handle people that are negative towards the work that
you are doing? Like, how do you because I know there was stages to where you was at now it wasn't you know, you learned something new upon what somebody had you know, brought to your attention on a negative type of way, So how did you handle that?
And how do you still handle that today?
Well, when it comes to like the group that I take out in the field with me, I make sure that yeah, like the people that are going I'm uh talking to, that they kind of understand what's going on and that they're into the idea, that they actually agree that it works and that it's effective, and that they're
that we're going to be successful. You know. So we all have the same goals, but when they when somebody is like negative, usually I only get that like online, I've I've never had anybody have the guts, I guess to come up to my face and tell.
Me, yeah, it never never to manm key keyboy warriors. Man, I've been in enough spaces to know that shit, it's all.
On Twitter, it's all on X and my at. I always push back myself, like I if I know better, Like if somebody's trying to dig into my friends or they're trying to belittle what we're doing or say that it's fake or whatever, I try to use like logic and common sense and I'll I'll push back and hold my ground and that can look like an r argument. But a lot of times, like I was just in one for a couple of hours yesterday with a group
of people. You know, they were calling my psionic friends grifters, you know, because they were trying to start a Patreon page and things take care of their families, and so I kind of stuck up for my friends. I'm like arguing with some of these people, and by the end of it, like everybody's quiet, and I'm kind of like,
where did everybody go? You know, it's when you finally actually step up and you engage in the discussion, they they realize they're just kind of jealous, or they're mad about what you're doing that they didn't get to go, or they're just they're just mad because they want more proof and you haven't brought it yet, so they're being impatient. And it's always never what they're really mad about or
what they seem like they're acting mad about. But if they're really obnoxious and they just won't quit, then I kind of treat it like on the internet, my YouTube channel and my pages, I'm trying to culture a certain kind of atmosphere where people feel safe as experiencers. So if people are in there really disrupt, not just like I would my own property, I'll kick them off my property,
so I'll block people and not have a problem. If they were at my house through my front yard yelling at me, I would kick them out of here too. If they were coming into my chat room when we're all doing a live stream together and somebody's trolling, I don't have many problems blocking those people either, because you know, I just want to It's not that everybody has to like me. I'm fine with criticism. I'm fine with people
telling me they want me to do different stuff. But if they're obviously just there trying to throw a wrench in the gears and ruin the ruin the vibe, then I'll kick them out.
It took me a while to learn how to do that shit because I used to be in this Twitter spaces with you, bro. I used to go back and forth with people all the time, and I ain't even lie. I used to consider a Jerry Springer bro, because I felt like social media, like Twitter and Facebook, I don't think people are really serious because, like you said that, nobody ever approached you face to face, and you know
that's a whole different vibe. But the reason why I asked you that is because you know, social media is really the cornerstone of getting information out there. And sometimes you just have to break that idiot. You know what I'm saying, Like you have to break them, Like I mean, it is what it is. I know a lot of times I've been in a.
Lot of spaces with you.
I know you shared a lot of stuff when I hear people talking back and forth and you know, I've been down that roller coaster and stuff like that. But the thing is is that you are asking people to do their own research. That's what I get from you. Like you said you've done you mean, you say you do your go through the miss you know, your boots on ground. I always talk about anybody that's boots on ground on anything, you can't tell them anything different. I
mean a person's their world. What are you doing send behind the computer? Yeah, I mean maybe you have a disability where you can't go out on the field, and that's fine, but you can't judge somebody who's out there doing it. Maybe you should as an individual. It should touch bases with people like you who are you know,
boots on the ground. You know filming this stuff. And I also know when it comes to filming, is that you have to cut out a lot of stuff, and then there's a lot of you know, executive points and people with their own you know, ideas, and you have investors and all that stuff that you can't really control.
So how do you go about doing things with raw.
Information where you're like, hey, I don't want anybody involved, but.
Just me, my camera and myself.
That's mainly how I roll. I mean, I'm almost ninety nine percent of the time choose on purpose for that reason to go along and choose to take my own equipment and don't borrow anything from anybody, don't use anybody else's gear or cameras. Like I'm always using my night vision, my camera and my stuff so that nobody can be like, oh this is mine and not yours, or nobody can.
I don't have a boss, I don't have anybody telling me what to do or where to go or anything like that, and so I try to try to go like like Ronan or whatever, the lone guy that goes on his own, you know. And so yeah, that's how I get around that. Like if I get into a situation where I'm like, Okay, what we're doing here on this project needs to get into a big or field of view, like we should try to get this on a TV show, get somebody in here to make a documentary.
We need a bigger network to bring in some funding to do a big project here. Then it gets dangerous because you have to cross the red tape. There's no
way around it. You've got to sign NDA's, you have to sign contracts, You got to go get into bed with these big networks and stuff who want to who have no idea who you are, and they don't care, you know, and they're dealing with people like you, one hundred of you a day, and all these lawyers come in and are involved, and they don't care about your intentions or what you're trying to do or whether it's real or not. They're just making a show and worried
about the liability. That's when it's challenging. And when I face those situations, which I have several times, I same thing as the trolls. I dig my feet in every time, and I say every time that they have to put in the contract certain terms like that they're not allowed to script anything. I'm not going to fake anything. If they want to do re enactments, it has to be literally right after it happened just because we didn't catch
it or there was a mistake. I'm not going to go back and refilm something that happened a year ago. I put all of that, and then I even make them agree that I'm allowed to film with my cameras anything that I want while they're there. And I mean, they hate that every time because it's like I could expose them as a fake or whatever, for lying or for hoaxing or whatever. But I make them put that
in the contract otherwise we don't do the show. And I've been able to do three different shows that way so far with three different or yeah, three different networks now, and so far it goes okay. But they hate it every time because they just want you to sign on the dotted line and have no control over anything.
Yeah, you got to know what you're going People don't even know that that would that would be a thing. But you've been in the business long enough to where it's like you've got to be able to film everything. You never know what they're going to try it both.
Yeah, the whole point is we've been working for two years on this spot. We're like this close to like maybe digging open a tunnel entrance to get in where
there's a buried UFO, maybe underground. So now this whole team shows up with all the money, with the tractor, with the drill, with the drones, with the equipment, and the last thing you want to have happen is to lose total control over the research and the findings and you actually film something or make a discovery and this giant corporation that came in that took over everything now has all the power and they take all your footage. They have control over the whole story, and then they
got you to sign an NDA and you're screwed. It doesn't matter if you found a UFO or not. You can't say anything. You're going to jail, like where you're getting sued for everything. So you have to know that game that you're playing up front and when you start going down that path so that you can set everything up.
Which is why some of the guys from the Skywatcher team are wanting to come out and work with me and do stuff because they realize, now, oh, if you don't have your own YouTube channel, your own Patreon and your own Instagram and all that stuff, and you're not regularly capturing and putting out your own content. Then these other corporations and agencies will just come in to your projects and take everything and you have nothing to say,
no evidence to show for your stories or nothing. So if you don't cover your ass on the paperwork side and on the legal side, when you get into teams and organizations or working with contracts, you're going to it doesn't matter if you find anything or not, You're never going to be able to tell anybody.
And that seems to be the way that they would operate. You know, it's right out in the open, but then as soon as they find something, oh, now we go into a completely different mode.
So that's one of the reasons why a lot certain people really like me because they want that advantage going in like I work at Thunderstrike Ran because the owners of the property, the guys from the Skywatcher team, and everybody that I work with, we all want that independence to where we don't have anybody that can tell us now and if we catch something on footage, like if we actually land a UFO and get the evidence, then we could upload it that night and nobody could stop us.
We could upload the footage and the pictures and everything and nobody could come and seize it. Nobody could tell us we have to wait for a year or any of that. And the reason that we're all pushing in that direction is because a lot of guys inside the program,
that's what they're experiencing. As soon as they're successful on a job, the whole thing gets swept under the rug, taken away, They lose their equipment, the boss gets scooped up and promoted, and now the whole team's like left wondering what they're going to do, and they don't have anywhere to go, and they're just left standing there. So like, you know, what do you do? You got to go land another UFO and you got to do it on your own terms. So that's where we're at.
That sounds promising. If these are that we're engaged with the Jake Barber incident, then I mean, what do you know? I mean you might have similar results? Is that sort of the direction we're going here? Is another Jake Barber without the uh, you know, requisite government involvement.
Yeah, exact same thing, exact same protocol. We're saying, how much can we strip out, how much red tape can we remove? How little can we do it with. Can we literally just take three guys and some good night vision and go stand on a hilltop in the right spot and do this with nothing else? How how minuscule or minimalistic? Can we do this and bring home the bacon? You know? And so we're doing that, I mean we we went up and did our first test run where
me and Mike Batista. He's a US Special Operation Operations guy, he's a retired Green Beret, but he's the lead psionic for Skywatcher, and he flew out and worked with me up around Skinwalker Ranch for about a week, just a
couple of weeks ago. And yeah, we did psionics three different nights up there, and we filmed eighty minutes of what I would consider like very good UAP activity and footage where you know, it's nothing like a giant craft with a bunch of details where you see entities or anything like that, but definitely a lot like eighty minutes of totally weird UFO behavior in the sky, lots of it, I mean, more than I've ever seen in just one night.
Is there psionic training under any sort of classification or is this like available to the public if people were interested in looking it up.
That's part of why they're coming out as the two guys that I'm working with on the side are all independently like trying to write their own psionic field manuals and stuff, because it's not like when they joined Skywatcher there was anything already written or like they had any training.
They were like selected for their abilities or for their talents that were that were seen out in the field and recruited, so like they were kind of picked, handpicked and brought into that without any training and just kind
of like expected to figure it out. And so now that they've been successful, these psionic guys are all both of them are writing their psionic field manuals about like the protocol of how they do it step by step from literally packing your backpack before you leave to what you do when you're there, how you write the field reports and all of that. I've seen rough and.
The DASH twenty manuals on the way, because that's yeah, I've seens Yeah.
I've seen rough drafts of them. Yeah, both of them are writing them, and then they might combine them and then I mean we're talking, we just form what we're calling the The acronym is UAP but it's the United Alliance of Psionics. So we're trying to have like an alliance of people with psionic abilities and find a way to recruit more people with psionic abilities and then create like a not really an online school, but yeah, like a way for people to start to tap into their
own abilities and unlock them in that way. It's kind of just like, you know, anybody can do it, right, like anybody can have everybody has psionic abilities. But that's kind of like saying, yeah, we can all go tonight and seeing karaoke together, but that does not mean that everyone can be a professional singer. That does take years and years of doing it and going out and connecting with the phenomena. So there's definitely like levels to this.
Even though I definitely anybody could go out and do it tonight if you just if you went outside and tried, but I think being able to go out and confidently say, you know, we can bring people from the government and NASA and I can do this whenever I want. That's the level of people that I'm currently working with and trying to work with.
That's all.
Well, shit, you said something that was interesting. You said, the government knows this right. So why do you think people go around and say that the government is trying to figure it out like we are, or why do you think the government is trying to hide it?
Well, I think they know that it's going on, but they still have no clue. Like that fundamental question we asked at the beginning, where are they coming from? How do they get here? Like we can't even explain how they're coming right out of the ground, out of nothing, and then they're a solid object that we can go touch or odo you said ground, Yeah, right out of the mountain.
Ye see, I'm glad you said that because that means they're inter terrestrial and not extra terrestrial, right yeah, which, yeah, a lot of people know that when we talk about uh, you know, UFOs or orbs or anything like that. There's an association with the Nuna slash the Ananaki. Now, when you actually read the text from the Nuna slash Ananaki, the actual cunoform tablats themselves. They say they came from the depths of the seas, but their gods resided on
the top of the mountains. So that when you say stuff like that, and I hear other people say stuff like that about more interterrestrial versus extraterrestrial. Why do you think the head there's more thoughts geared towards the extraterrestrial rather than the interterrestrial, when there's more evidence for it being here on planet Earth than anywhere else, you.
Know, I don't know. I think I think that a lot of the that is due to just like when people actually see it the phenomena and they notice it, generally speaking, it's a light up in the sky or a big phenomena that's floating up in the air, and they maybe didn't see or they weren't even looking where it came from, and they never got to witness where
it went and where it returns to. So when they see it in the sky, or they might see it float up above the clouds or shoot up into space, they assume it must be extraterrestrials from another planet or from outer space, because we don't know what's up there, you know, And the assumption is that we know everything on the Earth, we know what's in every cave and every mountain and every canyon. I can one hundred percent
tell you that is not the case. Like I have personally been hiking back in canyons that you would think that, oh, everybody would know what was up here, And I've found stuff that nobody had a clue was there before, So
I mean anything is possible. Every single Native American and indigenous culture their origins talk about not only the star people and how people people come down from the stars or from the skies and go up to the heavens, but they all talk about the ant people and the underworld people just as much like these entities coming up
from the underworld. In fact, most of the ancient locations that I go to have a lot of stone ritual circles from indigenous people where they would put stone circles or pathways or like monolithic stones and things, And that almost ties into these ancient esoteric cultures that believe in like fairies and the fay, and like like goblins and trolls that will come up out of fairy rings, like right out of the ground, like you hear in Irish folklore and stuff about like leprechauns will just come out
of a ring of mushrooms and pop out of the ground and run around. And you hear all those stories and they sound crazy. But when you tie all of those ancient myths in and those ancient legends in with actual UAP stories and especially abduction stories where people claim they've been taken by entities. That overlap is to me
is very clear. People a lot of times, as much as they are seen, like they think they're flying through space on a spaceship, a lot of times find themselves in some kind of a weird environment or an underworld, or they believe that they're down in some kind of upside down, you know, like a different dimension that's more like in the basement than the sky. So it's all there,
and I think it's a little bit of both. But I've seen a ton of UAP activity and we filmed a lot of it when I was with Mike Batista this last trip, and a lot of them were coming right out of the side of the mountain and then they would hover up form information and then they would and then they would go up into space, or some of them would fly in and they'd come up towards us. Then they would go and go down into the mountain. It was it was both I and they were going both ways.
Some of the more interesting sighting stories I've read has been about the little people that look like space people. Coming from the Alps. So you'll have these reports of people running across you know, tiny men in silvery uniforms, and then when they take off their helmet or whatever, they look like gnomes or some of these other fairy creatures.
So these are happening in the nineteen seventies in the eighties, and people are you know, some actually take pictures of these things and it's so off the wall people can hardly believe it. But yeah, it's the same sort of little green men phenomena, only in a different context, in a much more alpine region.
So and again if we're oh, sorry, I cut you off, they're go ahead.
No, go ahead.
I was just going to say, if we're go back to that initial thing, if these things are manifesting and they're drawing their form from our expectations or our subconscious, then culturally there could be a huge variety everything from space alien looking things to like goblins or trolls or
werewolf looking stuff. So like, who know if it's all based off of and like imagine if reality, if you could go up an ancient canyon and back in the back of that canyon was this cosmic three D printer, and that three D printer could read your mind and it could pick something that it knew would inspire you or would frighten you, or would show you something that would unlock part of your consciousness. And as you walk up to that canyon, suddenly reality three D prints disappearance
for you. It could appear as literally anything. It could appear as an object in the sky, as a creature or whatever. And then as you encounter that, you would have all kinds of random paranormal stories from the dog Man to Mothman, to the aliens to ghoules or whatever. It would really be based on your own DNA and where you're at. Energy of the place would create a
whole formula that for whatever could appear. And then when you see that, how you interpret that would totally depend on your own beliefs and your own way of seeing it and encountering it. So, yeah, it's either going to appear and you're going to think it's a spaceship where you're going to think this is some kind of a strange thing that just came out of the underworld.
You know, just depends by specific element to these sightings. When you take away the borders of well this is real and this is it, and you're looking at well, this is strange and this is it. Then you start to see these patterns emerging that come along with these you know, energy lay lines and all these other things that that influenced the manifestation itself exactly.
So imagine like ancient cultures were naturally sort of in tune with that, and a lot of their beliefs and customs and rituals were tied up into that. And now we're looking back in history wondering, why do they build all these pyramids, why did they build all these stone lists and rings and labyrinths all over the world, and
what were they doing here? And we don't have a clue, you know, But all you have to do is go out and experience it and sit in those places for a little bit and be quiet, and you'll realize what they're all about and what they were doing, because you'll you'll tap into those frequencies that are harnessed in those places, and if you if you're sensitive at all, you'll realize what they were doing there and you'll see the same things and experience it.
Is aty like wild when you think now like I mean, I think I believed it when I was a kid, going back to a kid, like we thought, oh, yeah, the pyramids were just to throw a couple of dead bodies in the Like you had to go through all that just to toast a couple of mummies in there. Really, Like I remember like believing that, oh shure, it makes sense.
Just to put the body of the king in there. And now we look at all these and people are puzzling over it, like these are giant energy capacitors or transmitters, Like they're drawing power from the ether of the universe and channeling out to the community and things, and that everybody's trying to figure out.
What they are.
But all of it's going to go back to relating to consciousness and how consciousness is the fundamental constructor an observer of reality, and so they're yeah, they were tapping into consciousness and reality itself and how those two things interface.
I have a little saying that I always bring up as the land is the lens by which we view God, and when you think about it in terms of the phenomena and everything else, it's like, oh, well, that kind of makes sense. This is how I perceive myself through the land around me, and so our perception of that is going to then influence our perception of God, so
it sort of shapes it. And you think about rural environments where you've got all the verses that they use in the preachers on Sunday mornings about sewing and reaping, you know, and that ends up shaping your reality. All the rest of this stuff sort of comes into focus as well. So there's an intense connection to the land that we have, whether we explore it or not, and that ends up shaping our reality around us.
Yeah, I agree. It was obvious that in ancient times there was something going on that everyone all across the world, across the globe knew was important and was the most important thing, and they were all trying to tap into
that and all trying to harness it. Doesn't matter what country you go to, they have, you know, monuments or pyramids or different structures that ancient cultures at one time appear to be trying to point towards the summer solstice and the equinoxes, and they've got these vast connections in
the way they're aligned. When you actually go study it, you realize there was like a phase of really early primitive humanity that was not primitive at all, but they were tapped into this stuff like at a way higher level than we get. And they were doing it totally organic with like the earth and stone itself, you know,
and now we're doing it very synthetic. Like I believe that what they were doing like in Giza or down like in the Aztec Empire, the way they were laying out those temples and tapping into the aquifers and the way the earth, the human resonance of the earth. They were basically trying to build giant computers, you know that you could go sit inside that would resonate with your consciousness and tap you into the Internet of the universe.
And that's kind of what it's like. You go sit in these ancient spots, you find a shaman sea and you sit there and you learn how to meditate with it, and it really is like surfing the astroplane like you would the Internet. You can tap in with consciousness and
read the acoustic library of these ancient times. In certain ways, there at least have these visions and impressions and downloads of knowledge that I think these ancient cultures would find absolutely invaluable, Like to have a shaman sit there and to gain wisdom about what to do and where to go would be a matter of life and death. Back then, it would be absolutely important. Now we just call our intuition.
You know, where Kabba meditation goes straight into the idea of these chariots of the gods, chariots of the gods, is right back into the Ufo phenomenon. So it's all right back with the same terminology even and I think very few appreciate that.
And the Marakaba, A lot of that stuff goes back to the different fundamentals of the like the Kabbalist system or the tree and the tree of life. And then you're talking again about the chakras of the body that go up through and those are all a prototype for you.
And so when you start to study those systems and those methods of how the universe works in these esoteric teachings, you realize you're reading about yourself and these are all things that we're supposed to align and tune you in experience the phenomena or to talk to God or whatever you know, to commune with the source of creation that fabric.
Yeah, yeah, it's uh, the chakras, that's you know, a lot of people are familiar with just seven chakras, but there are literally some some people say hundreds.
Of chakras throughout the body that you can control.
So that's actually interesting that you brought that up. Lights, Like when you were talking about the lights and orbs and all that other stuff. It was interesting because of the fact of the fact that what we know about chakras being different colors, you know, is, are those orbs people that were able to manifest and do things that you know, might not be human like and more like God likes.
So yeah, it's interesting because you know, there's.
A lot of talk.
We've had a couple of discussions about Bigfoot and dog men and so on and so forth, and uh, you know, a lot of the ancient texts talk about that stuff. I give an example, I always talk about it. I've been talking about it since we've been talking about Bigfoot. Is that inky do from this Marians is also known as an you know, an animal like man. You know, he's at the depiction of him is very different, but the idea is that he's not for human.
He's part animal and part human.
And then eventually he was persuaded by a prostitute to become more human like, and he came to the city and became Gyoga Mesha's best friend. But the point is that he's been described as what some people will say is as a bigfoot. So these ancient text talk talk about this stuff Ezekiel's will. You know, a lot of people will talk about that and relate that to the UFO phenomena.
But he's seen this in a vision.
He didn't see this with his two eyes where you open your eyes and you look at it and you see it flying. He's seen it on top of a mountain. Why, he was in a visualized state, no different than Jacob when he's seen the seventy two angels coming from heaven. From the latter, remember, he was in a visualized state too. And that's why I like to use.
The word vision or visualize.
Or you know, something like that, because in the simple fact that that's what they talk about. That they was meditating, they was trying to and a lot of times not only when they were meditating, you also remember they were fasting at that time too. So when you take food and water away from you and you start controlling it to the bare minimum necessity of your body to survive,
you can become in a hallucinated tide of state. You can even start seeing things, I know from personal things where when I was in the military, when you was on go thirty six forty some hours, fifty sixty hours, you start seeing fucking pink elephants.
And shit like that.
Because yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So I know I could just and that's just a couple of days, bro, you know what I'm saying.
They was pushing forty so you know what I'm saying, I can just imagine what the hell I was seeing.
You know, you'll have to do something like meditate for forty days and lack of food and water and shit like, you've better seen some shit.
You know, you'd be wrong if you didn't.
Yeah, you did something wrong if you didn't at that point.
Yeah. Yeah. And they say they say in those visions. A lot of the times, those guys, the prophets in the Bible, they're like in the middle of describing this whole experience with God, and right in the middle they slip in whether in the body or out of the body, I know not, they don't know.
That's actually one of my favorite, that's one of my favorite scriptures.
I have a lot of them, but you're you're right. It does say is whether in the body or out the body? I do not know.
That's exactly what it says.
Yeah, that's well if you go you go out and do psionics. That's exactly what it's like. When it works, you know, you're like, yeah, you're you're sitting there and you know that you're there, but a part of you is caught up in a different place and a different
experience and sees things. And then when that comes back and uh, and appears to you in the canyon or as a ball of light and returns right when you're thinking about it, you start to understand what all these ancient mystical people were doing, you know, and what they were.
Actually starving their bodies. Man, they were starving themselves. They're starving themselves mentally physically and you know with everything they they were starving themselves and that's where it pushed them to that mental state where they could see things that we couldn't.
But see, this is where astral projection.
Also come to play. You don't have to uh. You could be resting, trying to get rest and get better and still do these these these type of uh uh uh you know, god like abilities traveling outside the body like that, because when you're in a much relaxed state of mind or and you're in the you know, the witching hour, I guess they call that, uh you can you can astro project and you can do things.
That you know you wouldn't be able to do when you're in.
A physical form.
And you know, they say that this is important because that this is where some people were able to come up with some of the technology that we have today. Some of the people had their prophecies explained through those ways. You know, they got to quote unquote and I'm gonna say, Nick, see the future that type of shit.
It's crazy. People don't want to believe it, you know what I'm saying.
And I was talking to Nick about this earlier that I have, like I have this thing about me where I can feel think that something's going to happen, and I just and I wish I could control it to see exactly how it's going to play out. But I always have a feeling that something's happened. And there's different people around the world that have these things. My mom is a medium. She talks to you know, she tells me that she can talk to people who are who passed away and stuff like that.
So there are people out there like this.
Psychics are able to find people who were murdered that never even had any information about them at that time period, and police department hire them. They'll come out to that police department, get a couple of facts from the individuals, and boom, within a couple of days, a couple of hours, they know exactly where his body's at.
And this is up on the part.
Where we able to use our abilities, of god like abilities. The problem is is that we don't seek to know how to do it. You know, Jesus walked on water.
That can mean so many different things, right. The point is is the fact that when we take our abilities and we start following what I hate to say because some people don't like the Bible, but if you listen to what Christ said, look within yourself, you are able to accomplish things that people would think will be demonic, magical, you know, mystical type stuff, you know, witchcraft, And it's really not that you're looking within yourself to bring out
the best of you and the best around your world, because the universe revolves around you. You just have to make that universe the best way you can. And a lot of people fail to do that because they don't look within themselves.
Yeah, exactly. All those, all the miracles and the scriptures and everything are acts of faith. You know, the things that happened that were completely paranormal, that occurred that multiple people witnessed because one person had a belief that was
so strong they knew it was real. They acted on intention, they took a chance in that moment or whatever, and in that moment, the universe responded and actually delivered delivered the goods and then not throughout time, and those are carried as miracles, like walking on water or partying the Red Sea, or a pillar of light from the sky,
or the finger of God writing on the stone. And I'm just saying that people can say whatever they want, but like these things are fundamentally built into the universe for us to explore and to be curious about. And they're all throughout the history of the scriptures. And there's a lot of people right now that think that doing telepathy or psionics or remote viewing and all that is some kind of an evil thing, like it's a cult or witchcraft are going to get you into demonic entities
and stuff. But like when you start even trying to deal with your own problems and your own mind doing meditation, you could call that like, oh, I'm dealing with demonic forces. And when I started trying to deal with my own depression or deal with my own self hatred and different things, I might as well have been wrestling with demons. And it's the same shit, you know, it's the same thing. But when it comes to the in psionics and this kind of work with the phenomena, it's also the same thing.
It's like, how much are we going to fear ourselves as we explore reality because the universe is going to push back and what you're taking to the table. So like if you go out there, like all of my experiences when I've gone out even with these professional guys to do psionics and to do it even though we flat out call it summoning, and we're out there working in the areas where there's dead animals and creepy stuff, and it would you would think on the surface, like
this as a haunted house. We're out here working in the in the woods. But every time we go out because of the vibe that we carry with us and our intentions, our results have always been positive and have been amazing, and we found that, you know, the attitude that you bring as a team or an as an individual is going to give you the results that are
tuned to you. If you're going out there and you're all worried and afraid, like what if we see someone, the odds of you manifesting and actually encountering something that's going to traumatize you, go up and up. You know you're gonna get we're looking for.
Let me get this straight. You guys aren't praying for the end of the world and you're not expecting to see demons.
No, no, no, we're realizing that whole belief that the end of the world is coming is a self fulfilling prophecy of manifestation that we have to let go of as a society and realize that's all us just impending our own doom on ourselves. It's crazy to even imagine that, really, when you realize how manifestation works, like the whole the belief that the world can only be saved by ending
it really is apocalyptic to believe that about yourself. I think every beginning begins with the chaos, that's true.
Yeah, the zodiac, the explosion of area.
Yeah, I'm personally not afraid all that much of it. And I feel like all the spiritual leaders and even the Bible and stuff like if you want to go back to the Bible and when when Christ went out and did his forty day fast, when the most powerful evil force ever came up to him and tried to tempt him, I mean, Jesus was like, who are you? You have nothing to offer me. And it's the same
deal today, same deal. So, I mean a demon is only as powerful of a demon as you decide to pay attention to them and give him credit.
Like that's all the offer, as the offer is to give you, right, you don't.
I'm glad you said that because Plato in a credit list in his book Created List, he says that Socrates in them they have this they're having this dialogue where they have this dialogue in there, and they say demons are individuals who are wise men or men who died honorably. Right now, it's interesting you say it like that way, because that demon, if you let that demon have more knowledge than you than that do you mean control you.
But if you have more knowledge than that demon, then that demon can't control you.
Who are you? I know more than you?
You can't tell me shit type attititude. Right, And this is when you look at the exorcism. What does the what does the priests usually do? When he walks in there, he starts spitting out facts. You are evil, you are no good, You're hurting this person and that person don't like them.
Facts.
And that's when the knowledge becomes better than what that demon has, because they literally say in that book that demons in the Greek time at least that demons are wise men or men who died honorably. Well, now we gotta fight that knowledge. You go ahead, bro Tyro.
So in Greek they had three forms of demon that they identified, So diimona as is just basically the generalized spirit. Then you had audaimon ase like uh eu in front of it, which would mean good spirits, and then they
had keiko daimonase, which would be the evil spirits. So in that paradigm, when they're just talking about spirits, they're talking about like the their ancestors walking amongst them and still spreading their knowledge in these houses wisdom and that was a different sort of perspective than what came later, because the idea that you would have ghosts walking around was almost seen as unclean from that perspective in the world.
But you know, in the European world, it's like, yeah, our ancestors walk with us, and we don't, you know, shun their presence.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And that's why I'm saying is that there's so many is so interesting because the words that we use are very very and I said that earlier. You know, we have to be careful on the words that we use because if you don't use the word that it means for the original time frame, then you do won't understand what that person is saying. That's why for me, I like to know that demons are evil, and I also
like to note that they're intelligent. Now my problem is with this is what intelligent knowledge that they give us that made us evil? But then I have to go back and think about what we have today. Well, we have weapons that can kill people. Metal can kill people, but metal can also create life by agricultural needs. Right, so the idea of evil, but what did we do
with the knowledge to benefit ourselves? And we win either you know, the evil way with it creating weapons of mass destruction, and then we created tractors to be able to do mass production of food for the people on this earth. So, you know, evil, good and evil. You know, it's all subjective. But the point is is that, Yeah, what's up, bro.
You're going to love this. So how did dimonase get translated into the Latin as the word genius? That's what I'm saying, the intelligences of everything, and that goes perfectly with what you're saying. So it's like, the intelligence is this factor that sort of manifests its own thing, like the aggregors and all the rest of these spiritual concepts end up manifesting into reality through the genius.
That's the agrigor concept. Is how that's all connected. When people want to know where UFOs are coming from and why they look the way they do, and why they have the shape they do, and why the entities that come out of them or what they see coming out of portals or whatever. Yeah, that whole concept of the connection between the aggregor and the observer, the observer effect and the consciousness of the group. I mean, to me, that's the fundamental secret and why you asked that question earlier.
Why doesn't the government just come out and tell us what's going on? If they know, how do you tell everybody that. I mean, that's a secret that you almost don't want to get out, Because as soon as everybody realized, oh wait, reality is created off of our own intentions, Like it's built like a dream as we lean into the future, Like we're building this out of our own minds and our own hearts. You know, it's a.
Magic works best when the people you're doing the magic on don't know their participating.
Don't know.
You want to be the only one, the only wizard in the top of the castle, controlling the whole matrix. If that's the case, you don't want to Any last thing you want is a million people walking around with a crystal in their own hands. You want to be the only one with the crystal ball that can see
the future. Like so when they bring up disclosure, the reason they don't they're afraid to talk about the implications of all that because all the rest of this comes out of that bag too, like the whole unraveling of their control over education and medicine and just reality itself literally comes unraveled.
Which so ironic that the entire symbol of this is like star trek Aliens and this progressive future. But we're kind of stuck on Earth and so our only vision of the future are these alien crafts that we manifested into reality. It's really like a correction.
It's a psychic controlled system, right, it's a closed system, a psychic closed system, like a Yeah, we're in. We're in like a holographic reality that is in the universe than nothing as as server. You know, it doesn't have a container, and so we're just in this infinite capacity of creation and we're not you know, we can go anywhere we want through the universe, but we're never leaving.
Yeah, this is it.
We're in it. Yeah, which is it's you know, crazy to think about, like if all the things that the universe could be doing, it's pretty wild that this is what's up, this is what's going on, and we have no idea and we're trying to figure it out.
Just to think that the idea is that all the species around the universe thinks that Earth is important and that's why they come here. That's another thing, right, like why is this so important? Why do we have a Middle Earth? Why do we have an Inner Earth? Why do we have extraterrestrials. Why do we have into terrestrials.
Why do we have.
Paranormal activities with ghosts, demons and you know all these other things?
Why is Earth so full of this stuff?
And if Earth this small as all this and the universe is supposed to be so big, then what the hell outs are missing out? All?
I know? Yeah, there's something going on with all of that. Whereas much as we think we've got it nailed down and figured out and we're measuring time and track and everything, like, all of that is ultimately really relative and we don't really know what's making it go, and like how it's going, is it really all is just unfathomable. It's like you're just kind of have to sit back and realize it's amazing.
You know, Wow, this is amazing. And when you get into that mindset, you know, that's where that key of a lot of my work is and what the people I work with is. Yeah, getting into that feeling of wow, this is amazing. Like any day that we go out, anything could happen, Anything amazing could happen. So you can wake up in the morning and say, have this spirit within you. That's like the universe can literally do anything. It's its potential is infinite, and it's listening to me,
and so let's see how awesome today can go. And if you have that attitude, then that same idea that the universe is responding to you and will react to you and manifests in that way. That's what we should be doing instead of this whole like when is the world going to end and who's going to come and
save us or whatever. If we lean into that, it will lead us into this golden age where we suddenly start connecting at this higher level through telepathy and intuition and consciousness are through our feelings, our ability to connect with each other and see each other as the same and all you know, having the same those same connections through consciousness, and then the way that we'll see the world change and the fabric of reality and how that
all uplifts. Then we'll understand what all those ancient people were doing, you know, ten thousand years ago, and why they were building pyramids. Suddenly that I think that will all make sense as as soon as we can reach that level.
Yeah, the hard thing is going on to mal forty days and meditating and fast and once we can establish that, then everything else will come into answers.
That's it, man, That's what I'm trying to do. That's why I'm like such a I'm into this, like I'm totally obsessed with it. I don't go forty days and I definitely don't fast. I just barely today into a forty eight hour fast, but not a forty day fast. I just ate my first meal right before getting on here, but because my power's been out all day. But yeah, you got to get into it. You got to like go into your own self trying to refine your own
life and your own mind and your own consciousness. I mean, I've gotten into this process to the point where I'm like very even particular about my diet, how much sugar I eat, whether I'm exercising or not. And I mean there's a lot of things that I feel like if I'm not taking care of myself, I'm just not as good at this. I'm not effective and I'm not going to be an effective part of the team when we go out and work. So like in my own private life, even when I'm not out doing the psionic stuff and
making videos about it. It's a lot of work I'm doing constantly meditating and trying to keep myself in the right mindset, you know, and keeping my life on track for that and everything that I'm doing. It's if you have like a regular full time job and you're not trying to do it full time like I am, it's it is. It takes a lot.
It's a challenge. Yeah, most definitely.
Yeah, that's you know, And I'm glad you brought that up because I think one of my strengths is is that because I am retired, I'm able to read and research and share what I've learned. I try to give back to the people who actually truly want to know things Like if there's something about ancient history that somebody likes to know and I read about it, I like to, you know, give them as much information that I can
about it. You know, there's there's not I always say this, there's not enough time in a day for us to do everything that we want. You know, you have to pick and choose. One of my favorite authors is in historian's Godfrey Higgins. He wrote these books in eighteen thirty three called Anacalypse's value on it too. He was a thirty third degree Mason. He has these books, these very thick ass books. And the other guy that I like was Albert Pike. I'm probably sure you heard about him.
And I read their stuff so much, and they talk about the stuff that you're talking about everything that I read, you know, from consciousness to you know, some types of some type of entity or something that's not known to us that we can see with our human eyes but we can see with our third eye and stuff like that. And it's interesting that we have a lot of information out there and that takes a lot of people to
research it. But then I think about the people who don't have the ability to do the type of research and stuff that we have. And I give you a good example of this is the people that live in North Korea, like they have no choice but to just be told whatever it is they are. And I wonder, you know, how does the meditation work there, because they have people who've been there for thousands and thousands of years, and I'm pretty sure they have people with their own
myths and stuff. And I try to look for some of this stuff online and it's very you know, vague and very you know, not not really any too much information out there. And I wonder, you know, because of that, and you know, the way that history is going, some of the history is being taken away, some of the history is being hidden, some of the history is even being destroyed even until to this day, right in twenty
twenty five, which is crazy. But when you think about the people in North Korea who have no who don't have these abilities, they're being robbed of their ba see human journey, you know, the human journey.
They're being robbed.
And if there is these individuals who can control that, you know, gods or entities or whatever it is out there, then they have to be as strong as the people ass that's doing good. And what I mean by that is nobody's fucking with Korea right now. Like, nobody's fucking with Korea right now, right like as much as the technology that we have from all the you know, the allies that America has, ain't nobody fucking with Korea right now?
Up out Israel too recently, Yeah, I think Korea actually said like that Duty should be arrested.
Yeah, it's crazy because I wonder, you know, the good that that that's happening, do we really consider it good because we're we have luxuries that other people don't have. Or is it the proper Ganda that's telling us through the news that hey, Korea is this way and that's that's the fucked.
Up way we're going to go with them.
Not only that, but you also have to think about the same thing with Cuba, like how you remember how Cuba was forbidding for were not forbidding for us to go there, but to learn about and ship like that because of you know, the relationship with Russia and so on and.
So forth like that.
It's crazy to know that we could be robbed of our history but in our day of you know, in the free country that we're in today. But people are robbed across the world with just you know, the basic shiit of what they what they can do. You know, just think about that Korean that's see something in the in the sky that they never seen before because electricity is always out of at this time, and you know, it's dark outside. Ain't got shitos and ain't never really
seen anything. But then they see this glowing light over their their their land. I just want to know the type of stories they have over there, you know, what I'm saying that the Skinwalker ranches they have over there, the ORB stories they had, the UFO stories they had, because they're in some cases they're still living in archaic times, but they don't have electricity all the time like we do. So it's just interesting. And they eat a lot of
fish too. And then anybody that knows anything about fish, fish brain food, so you know, that can exaggerate a lot of the shit.
So yeah, man, you never know. I think the uh, I think it's fascinating how the Yeah, those the ancient cultures that are like cut off from the modern society seem to hold all the secrets, you know, and uh Yeah, as modern civilization colonisers move in and like take over different areas, they basically smother that under the rug and they say, well, this is all this is. I'm to have looked at these savages. We need to we need to modernize this and develop culture and civilize these people.
And then they just trounced right over the Yeah, the ancient teachings and spiritual places and build the cities on top of them. Yeah, that's that's crazy how that happens all the time.
What's up?
Troubles it is jumped in a little late. I just want to introduce Troubles. See what's going on, Troubles. Won't you let everybody know who you are? I don't even know if these guys here.
Yeah, guys, what's up guys. A nice meeting you guys, Headless Giant, Nice to see you again.
Brother.
I've been following you guys and on the.
Occult Rejects, on you guys' lives, and when you guys were talking about the tweakers. First of all, I want to thank the Lord for allow them to be here today, and I want to think everyone want to be following into your space. Thank you guys for what you guys are doing today because it is really really good work
and good research. Also, I left off watching, I left the chat when you guys were talking about the tweakers and the intent and manifesting what you're tweaked out guys, I am a recovering added.
You guys freaking triggered me. And I'm gonna tell you something.
It is that's insane how accurate you guys are Because I come from a place where where I used to get hybro and I used to and this is just my experience bro used to get tweaked out on my freaking in my closet, and I would think that I was grabbing my my wife's liver with my hand until it rotted and my wife would wake up with pain. And you guys are like, you know, BROT, you're tweaked out, Like, yeah, I was fucking tweaked out. But I was damaging her with my intention, Bro, Like I was dreaming.
I was you can't go to sleep.
I was day walking, daydreaming with about it, bro, And it was happening to her on a physical level, like I was grabbing it from the ether and putting it in her freaking body. And I decided to stop, obviously because I have children and everything.
Bro.
But I have a year and almost six months not tweaking more and not smoking weed and not drinking alcohol anymore. Guys, And I'm gonna tell you something, It's probably the best thing I've ever done. It's not about me. It's about the idea though, that everything that you do here and you are tappeding into a frequency, you could definitely materialize it.
And I'm not that's where I left off. I'm sorry if.
I'm pivoting or changing the conversation. But yeah, man, it's an intense, intense realm. Telepathy is another main thing my ex and I now, I'm a vivid, lucid dreamer. Nothing to do with it, but look check us out with my ex and I. She after I did my fourth coming of a man in a moscoal Apachi tribe, we did some celebrations for sweat lodges for forth coming of a man celebration.
And after I did my three sessions, her and.
I developed some type of telepathy conversation, bro. Like she would look at me across the hallway, Bro, and like give me a nudge, and I would she like, you heard me, and I will start lasting out of nowhere, bro. Because we had a connection. She was my to inflame. I still love this woman very very much. Obviously she has her own family and I do too, and I you know, we're happy where we're at. But everything happened energetically. It wasn't like we were fucking and having sex with
each other. Bro, Like we were touching each other. So I know, its some fucking retarded and it sounds like something a tweaker would say, bro, or a spiritual guru would say. But we had telepathy, and we would have full, long conversations for more than ten minutes.
Bro.
In our dreams, we will see each other in our dreams, and then the next day we'll remember, like, Bro, did you dream the same thing I did?
Tripping the freak out?
Bro?
It's insane. So yeah, man tapped into that. Not anymore but in the past. Yeah, Bro, Sorry if I interrupted and pivoted the conversation something.
I like that because you know, you know, if he was here, he's really good. Had he had wrote some books on meditation and stuff. And you know, one thing that I've learned about meditation, not just from his book but overall and throughout my life, is that breathing can help you with that stuff too.
You know what I'm saying.
It's just we all have our own ailments. You know what I'm saying, We all have our own vices. It was good that you've seen yours and you worked around it. That's why you had You went on your journey and you're here to tell us about it. But see, think about the people who weren't able to put those in words for us to understand as of today, in the thousands, thousands of years ago, you know, you're trying to explain
this thousands and thousands of years ago. You know, it brings in the perspective that we are now able to, you know, communicate with each other, to understand each other. And everybody has their own journey and footsteps to go down. And that's what the wonderful part about it is that when Carl Crusher was saying earlier that you know a lot of these myths and these these these theories and stuff come because of everybody's individual experience. You know, your
God is not the same God as my God. I could be praying for something totally different than what you're praying for, and your God can bless you for what you have, and the other God can bless me for what I have. Right, it's not it's not the And that's where it comes into manifesting. When you was talking about manifesting, I was actually talking about materializing. A couple of shows shows ago about how there's in the Bible itself,
it talks a lot about materializing. You know, they was there one minute and gone the next, you know, and you know it's the way they look within themselves that they were able to achieve these you know, these I guess you could say abilities, and you know what, you know, it makes me think about sometimes, you know, when you watch some of these superhero movies and shows and stuff like that, when they when they were young kids, they were trying to control their their godlike abilities to fit
in with the crowd. And I think that's what we're all doing, is that we have abilities that we can do. We're just trying to fit in with the crowd because we don't be looked at as weird, even though we still say as good men and women as to today.
You know, I think I got a through road, right, So what happens when you're you know, tweaked out on drugs versus when you're I don't know, forty days fasting in the desert. You've got pressure on the skull in different areas, right, You've got a lot of swelling, You've got a lot of different areas activating within the brain
and different you know, connections happening. Again, like the hallucinations are a similar event, but there's something deforming the shape of the brain in these cases that then creates these effects that you know, we see manifestations and all sorts of other stuff happening because things are not working normally, so it's almost like it's pushing different parts of the
consciousness out of proportion in the brain. Now, I think maybe there there is some sort of a connection to having you know, damaging effects in association with you know, uncontrolled PK or some of these other things. But this is why harmony is so important in the in the process of achieving these things. We see a lot of people with brain damage having a weird effects you know, occurring in and around these these different lobes of the brain.
I've heard about the central cortex. How the central cortex used to be active in you know, primitive humans. It's no longer active in us, but when people get certain brain damage, it activates that and all so activates a lot of telekinetic ability. So they might actually be working on ways to activate the central cortex, you know, basically opening us to the phenomena almost at will.
So yeah, I mean, if you good, go ahead, bro, I was just gonna say, yeah, if you can. If you think about how simple it is that you can alter your state of consciousness just taking like a benadrill, you know, or anything over even over the counter pills, you can alter your state of consciousness taking just like
a small little tablet or something. But then you think of different drugs or psychedelics, and then you expand that into different radiations, different frequencies or other technologies that understand consciousness and telepathy, and then all of a sudden you're getting into this weird almost DARPA technology where you have, you know, controlling people's thoughts and experiences at a distance, where if the phenomena is at all technological when it
manifests or materializes, and if it's based on consciousness, then its ability to tap into consciousness or control consciousness the same way that we would fly a fly, a drone
or remote control car. Yeah, you're right, I mean some of the dangerous side effects of doing this kind of work and that the things that we're concerned about is that idea of there's missing time that occurs where people lose three four hours of time and have no memory of where it happened, and you wonder was that time actually taken or did we just have like any race of memory happen or something is happening to consciousness where
there's a segment of time just gone, you know. And then there's also effects like they call interference syndrome, and that's actually even come up in the congressional hearings where UAP and experiencers. People that have been and government programs that have been very close to these craft or these objects on the ground and interacted with them sometimes have got a form of brain damage that is like a
VANA syndrome. So there is a part of their brain that is affected by these encounters that changes the structure of the brain and they don't know if it's like damaging or if it's actually enhancing, and it's a little bit depending on the people. There's reports of both. Like you said, some people have these encounters and then all of a sudden they have these extra abilities, or they're smarter, or they can suddenly do math like crazy or no
other languages. And then other times they have these encounters and it's damaging and they just have their hair all falls out and their gums all turned white, and it's like they've been hit with radiation and it's not very pleasant. But those are all risks that we're taken when we go out and do this in the field for real, and why we're I carry radiation sensors and bagger counters and the MF detectors and all that stuff on me
everywhere I go to make sure and monitor that. But yeah, there's definitely a real real world side effects getting close to raw supernatural phenomena. Yeah.
Well, think about how close radiation is to some of the primary sort of drivers of creation in the universe. You know, atoms and you know radioactive decays, just you know, pieces of atoms being shot off into different pieces of space. So if you're thinking about white holes and black holes, there's something sort of manifesting in that space between spaces. This brings us to portals. What are your thoughts on portals.
Are there.
People experiencing that sort of phenomena to other places?
Yeah, I think as much as like things can materialize or appear like out of the ground or out of thin air, like they're coming from outer space, that also the environment in reality itself can shift or connect to
itself in different ways. So I think the connection to the understanding of how portals work, both physically and through consciousness is also a big reason why I think ancient cultures were doing what they're doing a lot of times where there's all these pyramids and ancient sites where that were sacred. There's a lot of false doorways, staircases that go to nowhere, chairs that you sit in and stare off into nothing. I mean, there's a lot of things that look like why in the world these They are
totally counterintuitive. But when you understand that these places are drivers or like pilots, pilot seats for consciousness, then you understand that higher level of how people were probably tapping into these locations. But I can't remember what the original point was or what that original question was, But remind me, what would you just say?
Portals?
Portals? Yes, but yeah, the portals. So imagine these false doorways built in the stone and the wall of the temple, and these perfect spots that are all designed to harness
this power. And then you go sit there and do the psionic exercise, the shamanistic exercise where you're overlapping your consciousness into the astroplane while you're sitting there in that actual location, and you look at the doorway, and then you project your consciousness through that doorway, and even though it's not a real doorway in the rock, your consciousness absolutely goes through a type of portal or a gateway.
And you may go through a doorway in Peru and suddenly find yourself gaining wisdom from somewhere totally alien or somewhere totally foreign, or maybe you're feel like you're getting insight or wisdom from the teachers over in the ancient Indus Valley and Tibet, and so maybe they were sitting in these spots through these portal energetic doorways and not only traveling, but you know, communicating like an ancient telepathy
or ancient telephone. So like you have different people in different places communicating with each other, and that's why you've got Globally, all these structures are built the same and the same kind of culture all over the place. But yeah, I think portals are very real. I don't think they're necessarily like a window that would just like open up
into reality that you go walk through. I think they're more just like you might experience it like a strange missing time or deja vus or weird incident when you're in these locations. But a lot of times there's measurable effects. You can catch it on a device or a sensor, or other people in the team experienced it at the
same time. I've even been in experiences where things have just appeared and now they're on the ground and they were not there before, Like where we've hiked down a trail several times and then we went by there the very next time, and there's just like a pair of boots sitting there that were not there before. Like all
kinds of things, like time is overlapping. So I think portals are mostly just yeah, the past and the future getting messy and slipping into each other, and people and consciousness can kind of go through that or get in the middle.
Carl, isn't it interesting that people who have these experiences with maybe cryptids or some of these other terrifying creatures that you know are somewhat real, somewh whatnot, they always have an overwhelming sense of dread before running into the creature. It's almost like that emotional response was a prerequisite for the manifestation of this being.
I would say that their dread is the primer and the actual factor that caused the appearance to go that way. That if they would have been able to pay attention to that sensation and control that sensation more from fear into excitement, their experience probably would have not been the boogeyman. That would have been something more profound. It might have been their great grandfather's ghosts of ancient shaman or some kind of a higher intelligence.
Yeah, there's a supposedly a nerve cluster on the back of our necks that wohen activated creates a sense that somebody is watching us, right, and so we have that sort of reaction to that nerve cluster. Do you think maybe stimulating certain nerve clusters on the human body to then produce these type of manifestations is possible using maybe electromagnetic means kind of like a you can shoot this out of a person?
Maybe, I think so. But what you're tapping into now is the big core of the secret of what they were doing at the Montalk project and why that gets such a bad because they started realizing, well, asking that same question, how can we take a person and amplify them and tune them up to make them optimized?
You know?
And they would say, well, okay, well, And one of the primary guys that started that research was a guy named Andrea Puharik, And he used to go down to the Amazon rainforest and he was studying the shaman, studying
magic mushrooms and all of that. And then he was coming back up to his labs and experimenting with patients, and he started out with magic mushrooms, but then he realized, oh, when they're doing the psilocybin, we can flash these strobe lights in their eyes and suddenly their ability to guess what the que cards are goes way up. They can tell it's a triangle, they can tell it's a square, Their telepathy goes up. And they say, well, what if we add audio to that with the light flashes, and
they said, wow, it changes it again. There's a different result. And then what if we put a red filter over the eyes? And pretty soon you're going down this path. We're ultimately at Montalk. They've got an island like Epstein Island or whatever, and they've got kids. Then they're doing experiments on little kids where they're pumping frequencies into their brains and they're trying to use radio signals and frequencies to amplify their consciousness. I mean, the whole TV show
Stranger Things is based off of that. You know, trying to can you tap into the back of the brain or the base of the skull and tune into alternate dimensions or talk to aliens or whatever, and that's the whole Montalk project was about that, and a lot of people swear that they were totally successful. So with that whole project, Montalk and mk Ultra, all of that now has rolled forward and it's what we call became arpa Net,
which is now what we call the internet. You know, how do you transfer information through the nothingness, through the mind through telepathy? That all came out. Jacques Vala was on the original team that developed arpaet, the first internet, you know, and he's all into remote viewing and consciousness and all this stuff. But then arpaet became free and became the Internet, and the scientologists too, how put off
was Yeah, a bunch of them are scientologists. Yeah, Jacques Vela actually was hanging out with the Satanic Church a lot and doing stuff with him. Yeah, But ultimately they, you know, like mk Ultra and DARPA. Like DARPA today, they're all about like, how can you human and technology interface? Can you put wires and microchips into people's brains to control things and control computers? And can you control people
with frequencies? And that's one hundred percent where you were just asking, can you can you take someone with psionic abilities and amplify them and into becoming like totally like what is that Minority report that movie with Tom Cruise where they have these psychic people that can predict future crimes and they can go arrest people before they commit the crime because the psychics can see the future. Yeah,
they are trying to figure all that stuff out. Yeah, and during the Cold War and so so, trying to use technology to amplify the brain. It can be a very dangerous path where you're getting into mind control stuff at that point. Yeah. Oh yeah, it's messy. Yeah, but I think it's part of it. Yeah, you can. I think you can use music or different meditations, and there's subtle ways that you can enhance your experience when you
go out to do psionics. But if you really start to get Frank consigned with it, you're going to get in Well.
I just keep waiting for Ricardo to pop in talking about the megalithic structures that use these very principles so that they can trans for information over thousands of miles without any wires or anything, just using acoustics and all the rest of this advanced mathematics. When it comes to vibration, it's like they figured out maybe that's what we're seeing today, be even just cheat another manifestation.
Sometimes they think, so if you had that technology, when you just tap indirectly into the ether instead of talking to each other, because all the information is up there anyway.
Information We have the vastness of the Internet, and all we do is and watch reels and memes and sit and talk to each other too. We could we could be studying philosophy and getting degrees in Harvard University and we're all just geeking out over UFOs tonight. I mean, we we all are just trying to have fun too, trying to We want to learn, but it's got to be fun. I don't know, I was just saying.
That earlier, you know, uh, you know, when we're taught as young children, or at least when I was taught as a kid, when I went to school, I was always told that school was meant to be fun. And I think that's bullshit, because as a kid, life is supposed to be fun, right, That's that's all we know
is to have fun. So if you can implement a way to educate me in a fun way, it probably, you know, we probably have more educated people walking around here instead of these demis, because you know, a lot of people will be able to know what they're really
being educated on. And I say that because of the simple fact that when you look at some of the stuff that goes around when I asked you earlier about you know, how do you go about with some of the people that you negatively You know, you give people sources, you give people information, You give people the opportunity to go do this and this stuff for themselves, and instead of them going to go do it, as soon as they hear something you don't like, they dismiss it and
say this is bullshit, and this, that and the third, and you're just like, well, why are you here? If everything that I'm telling you is bullshit, then why are
you here listening in the first place. And that's when the trolls come in and all this that third and I understand when you say you don't have time for that, and you know, and it just bothers me sometimes that people are like this, because I'm just like, man, you could probably be doing some really cool shit if you just stop being an asshole.
Yeah, And of those people, if you actually if you actually sat in the same room with them, you'd probably become friends if you just talked. But the Internet. You know, hey, bro, that's how I met Nick.
Me and Nick met at Cosmic Summit, And hopefully one of these days I'll be able to meet headless.
You know what I'm saying.
You know, it's different when you meet people in person versus then when on the computer screen. You know, you got these keyboard warriors out here, everybody talking shit.
Oh, let's meet up, blah blah blah.
Man, y'all ain't gonna do nothing but sit there and type away on that goddamn keyboard. Break that keyboard fast and you'll break somebody's face. So just leave it as it is.
It's true.
Ancient.
I think these ancient magicians that knew how to use this sort of principle actually came together and formed a government. And you know, the government always says that, you know, there are on a war footing and they're you know, they're doing the most they possibly can, But really they don't have to do that much. We're doing it to ourselves all the time, and if we just stop doing
it to ourselves, they wouldn't have any power. And that's basically the most efficient way they could think of doing it is by getting us convinced that if you know, we didn't get together and maybe stop things or boycotted once or twice.
Yeah, I actually get something done. If you put a governor in charge of the city, they're expected to get a bunch of stuff done. But if you put a governor on an engine, what does a governor do its it caps off how fast the motor can even run. It literally is a speed limitter. So yeah, government is all about governing. It's about capping off our abilities, controlling anything that gets out of control, checks and balances. If anybody starts to get ahead as an outlier, you got
to put them back with the rest. Literally, like if anybody starts to developed nukes or any weapons or abilities, we got to bomb them and stop and like literally everything is about the suppression. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
It's just a matter of time if when people take that opportunity to do it.
You know, it always leads with an opportunity.
If you don't see that opportunity and nothing comes from anything else, you know what I'm saying. You have that opportunity, and right now people are so distracted with their own mindset that they don't see the bigger picture, and that's why we're in the situations we are. And now with everything, you know what I'm saying, even when there's actual evidence in facts given to you. I mean, I understand that not everybody can meditate. You know what I'm saying me,
I have a brain injury. I was going up in Afghanistan and I have a traumatic brain injury. I had to learn how to meditate. I had to quiet the noise in my head. Like that's not easy, especially when you got, you know, all these crazy thoughts in your head from when you was over there, overseas and shit. So you know, a lot of people don't understand. You know, everybody has their trials and tribulations, but don't don't. I
hate when people when somebody's trying to educate somebody, you know, anybody. Really, if somebody's trying to educate you just take that, that that knowledge and roll with it.
That's shit.
If you don't like it, if it don't do nothing for you, forget it. But I guarantee you sometime in the future you're definitely gonna if you live long enough, hopefully that that information that somebody gives you, you know, would be beneficial. One of the things that my father taught me growing up was uh, and I kind of tweaked it a little bit, but this is what he told me. He says, a man learns from another man's mistake,
but a real man will learn from body Elsea's mistake. Right, a man will learn from his own mistake, but a
real man will learn from somebody else's mistake. So basically, how I thought about that and I kind of tweaked it, is that when I see somebody else doing some dumb shit and it gets them into some trouble, I try to stay I try to pay attention to that, whether it's you know, you know, being having bad information, misinformation, uh, being guided through the wrong uh uh rabbit holes, I guess you can say, you know, I try to stay away from that because they already showed me that if
I go down that rabbit hole, I'm gonna be ignorant because I'm taken away from being from the knowledge that's actually out there. And that's really hard to do because you can't really determine what is right and wrong until you actually do your own research. But that's where it comes into, where you do your own due diligence, and when you go deep into your own due diligence, you get after a while, you start seeing the repeating patterns that people say that they think is accurate, but it's
actual just fiction and throws everything off. But it takes that repetitiveness to see that. And once you start grasping that, then you won't. You know, it's a lot easier to you know, mingle through the world and stuff like that, especially when you're going looking for esoteric and exoteric type information.
Yeah, you can have one or two reactions, Like after listening to this whole conversation, if like, if you're out there listening to this, you can sit here and say, these guys are full of shit. This guy Carl is just talking about how he goes out with these Special Forces guys, these Green Beret dudes, and they use telepathy to summon UFOs. What an idiot, And then you go back to eating your plate of nachos and you don't think anything ouse it. You just assume that we're all
lying to you. Or you can do what I did like five years ago, and go I'm going to go out and see if I can do this. I'm actually going to go out and go back in the canyon, and I'm going to be sincere and I'm going to I don't I'm not going to tell anybody where I'm going. I'm going to go out there and I'm going to actually try. And the first couple of times that I did that, I realized that I was going to be involved in this the rest of my life, because you know,
that's the whole thing. You can sit and down it all you want, you can criticize it all you want. You can even sit and try to figure it out and puzzle over it all you want, reading books and mysteries and studying ancient history. Nothing is going to replace what happens to you. If you actually just find a spot that you can go out and kind of be alone under the stars and just sit there and quiet your mind. And when you really do that and connect and and give it a try, you'll realize how magical
the universe really is. You'll uh it will respond to you, and it'll react to you. You might sit there and think that you're bored for a little while, but as the night goes on, and as you continue to go back and continue to do it, you'll you'll realize what this is all about and why people in ancient times that weren't all distracted were it was their entire way of life and civilization, like you said, like they almost had a global society where everybody was into it.
There was this time where it was like that. Yeah, I like to say, listen to the rhythm of nature. That's how you get involved. That's how you that's how you're not bored. When you can listen to the rhythm of nature that goes in tune with your body. Because everybody has different rhythm, you'll you'll start to notice that it'll be easier you head.
The bird's twart, you.
Know how how many how often do you think that birds are are fucking singing at night? A lot a lot go outside and hear them birds screaming at night? Don't motherfucker's gotten uh? Vampire or what they what.
They call it?
Uh?
What is it? Sleep problems? Like we do?
You know what I'm saying, Maybe out there squeaking and talking and shit, Like I'm like, damn, there's a lot of birds out here, you know, singing, And it's interesting because you know, you see that you hear the birds. You know, everybody says the birds are supposed to be sleeping and everything's supposed to be quiet down and this, that and the third. But you have all these species out there, from humans to you know, you know, bug like species, to anything that's up at night just doing things.
So it just makes you think, what are we the only ones that met it at night? Or is it these other species that's out there doing Wolves howling at the moon, I mean, come on, you know they speaking to a quote unquote, you know, deity type like, because the moon is considered a god in some cultures, right, So the wolf is howling at the moon, and then you got the Norse mythologies about the wolves chasing the moon,
you know what I'm saying. So it's just all this stuff plays are very part because you know, you have to look up at the sky to understand that. And when the wolves are chasing the moon, that's stars can be just chasing their.
You know whatever. You know what I'm saying, however you want to take it.
But the part is just getting that knowledge, and I think that's where a lot of the problems is that once you get that knowledge, a lot of times, even for myself, I do it sometimes too. I feel like I know everything, but I only I know everything that I know from what I've read, from what I've read, I don't know everything overall. And that's where all of us have to connect to each other, have these conversations.
Like I said earlier, whether you like somebody or not, if you truly want knowledge, you're going to find.
A way to work with that person.
You know what I'm saying, if you truly feel like they have enough knowledge to give you, and then you can be reciprocated for what you have and all this other stuff. But the problem is is that everybody wants to be right. Everybody wants to be known, everybody wants to have a channel. Everybody wants to make some money, and there's no money in this shit. There's really no money in this shit. You spend more money out of your own pocket trying to give the information to the
people rather than what's coming in. And then when you finally start getting sponsors, that's when everybody said, like the word that you use people grifting.
No, nobody's grifting.
Man.
Some people have to take care.
Of their families.
Some people have to take care of themselves let alone, you know, not just their families, and not only that they're doing it for you. You don't have to contribute to it. If you don't, you don't have to bash them and say they're a grifter. You know, if they're giving you information and you want to prove them wrong, go ahead and do it.
We all have the capabilities to do it. Ninety nine point nine percent.
I'm gonna say at least eighty nine percent of the people in the world have cell phones. Anybody can record some shit and prove you wrong. The problem is that everybody just talk talk talk. They want to get on them keyboards and start hitting them, you know, the keyboard real quick.
So I really appreciate what you do.
I really do.
I like what you do. I like the show, I love with it. I like your channel.
Like I said, I've been following you for years since at least the COVID time when we was in the X spaces.
So you have a great knowledge. You have a lot of fans.
I mean, everybody's sitting here saying call Crusher is the man in the comments, so you know what I'm saying. Forget all those other people that give you that negative ifity, bro, there's a lot of people who like what you're working and I'm wonderful.
I'm sorry. Everybody in his room right now is one of them.
Thank you, man. I appreciate that. It's very flattering. Kind appreciate everybody in the comings too. Being all nice to me makes me feel at home here.
I like it.
All that equipment Tyrone saw me users because the call actually actually inspired me to grant my own equipment and go out and use it.
Yeah right, I gotta go do this for real.
Yeah, I know he remember thought I was asking you ship Yeah, yeah, you just sent to me.
This is what I got.
I was like, all right, cool, but uh yeah, is there anything else that? Uh, because it's almost like two hours now. Not that I want to stop, but I mean, is there anything else you guys want to talk about it?
Maybe we'll wrap it up soon.
This is a great episode, ye.
Wild Shiro spot you know.
And I actually got to talk to Carl to crusher and got to see him on the digital. Yeah, it would be spaces for him for like since COVID man, I'd be in the spaces Listen. I'm I'm pretty sure you heard me spies out a couple of times.
I'm pretty sure. Yeah, probably yea or.
I'll go with everybody with spasms.
Yeah, but Carl, why don't you let everybody know where they can find all the amazing stuff again one more time?
Please?
Yeah, I go buy Carl Crusher everywhere on the internet. Almost everything I post goes first on the Patreon and then onto YouTube and then everywhere else. Instagram, rumble, TikTok, all over. I post clips of everything. I've also on Patreon. I've got workshops, ebooks, masterclasses, actual books that I've written, video workshops, and then I've just published a book on Amazon kind of going through you know, we've talked a lot about religion and how all the different ancient esoteric
systems and cultures we're looking at the same thing. That's what my book is all about. It's kind of like goes through all the religions and looks at the fundamental connection between them all and consciousness. So yeah, that's what I've been doing, kind of trying to get my knowledge
out in all different types of media format. But yeah, go find me on Carl Crusher and we're right in the middle of all the filming and uploading the episodes where I'm out with the Psionic team at Thunderstrike Ratch. So it's just right now getting ready to finish episode like five or six, and there's probably going to be close to ten or eleven episodes in that whole series by the time we're done.
Yeah that's cool, nice, awesome man. Yeah, so people keep an eye out for that for sure.
Uh you know what, and if you get if you uh the people have never heard of him before, go back.
It's older, it's all a little old.
Go check out his Magic Mesa Magic Masa episodes. I know that that's old, but to me, that's still stuffs still going.
In fact, by the end of this series, with Mike Bautista from the Skywatcher team, we went to Magic Mesa, I sat him on the shaman seat there and uh yeah we filmed like forty minutes of UAP activity coming and going from their Native American reservation there.
So yeah, thank you, lad you Magic Mayeah.
Yeah.
Even even just with the the stuff that looks like you just shit dripping down the side of it, I was just like, Yo, that is weird. So yeah, definitely go check out that footage. A little old but impressive stuff. Thank you again, Carl, I really appreciate you coming on headless. Wan't you let everybody know what's up with you real quick.
Sir, So, I have a couple of prints that I have for sale, So this one right here, I like it.
If you want it.
You just email me at Have This Giant Podcast at gmail dot com. We're going twenty dollars. If you've got your preferred method of payment, I can send those to you. So haveless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com. And if you have any stories, you can hit me up there as well. So thank you very much.
Oh.
Also, they're going to be at the events that Nick is going to be going to, Sue.
Yes, yeah, so yeah, real quick.
If you guys want to check us out, me and Tyrone will be over in Franklin, North Carolina, October fourth and October eighteenth, will be in Fort Myers, Florida. Will be at events. The information is already in the show notes now, so if you guys want to check out that stuff, check it out. Yeah and Tyrone, my man, sure, what's going on?
I appreciate it, man, Thank you so much Nick for letting me be here. Man and Carl, I appreciate your knowledge and wisdom that you gave us today. You got a lot of wisdom on your beard, you know, saying see the grades. So I appreciate that.
H it was a wonderful episode, just like Headless said.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Nick got some over here, you got some wings and some but great, great, great, great great great, so great knowledge. Thank you so much.
Everything that you can find on me is on my website, Rebirth of theWord dot com.
I am going to buy a painting from Headless one of these days. I just need to find the one that actually, uh you know.
It is towards me.
You know what I'm saying.
So I'm looking for that Headless, So keep up the good work, don't stop that. Everything you can find on me like it says on my website, Rebirth Ofword dot com. And I also wrote the bestseller Journey through the Word and History and I appreciate it once again.
Thank you, oh, thank you. I really appreciate it.
And uh yeah, sat out to Shara. Unfortunately she wasn't gonna make up and things came up. I saw she was in the chat, but h yeah she could make it. But uh, thank you all again, I really appreciate it. And yo, the chat was on fire. Tonight, you guys are awesome. I mean again, this is why I go a live, because I really do enjoy Sometimes they do get caught up in the chat actually a little bit
more than I should, but I do enjoy it. I like seeing everyone everybody's got to say, and seeing everybody enjoy the show.
That's what's up.
I appreciate it and until the next one, everybody be well later